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post May 15 2012, 10:11 AM, updated 14y ago

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=============== The Wizard ===============
“If my old masters could see me now...”

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Wizards are renegade spellcasters who use their bodies as vessels for arcane energy, forsaking the more careful path favored by other magic users. They manipulate all manner of forces to disintegrate, burn, and freeze their foes, and they can control time and light to teleport, create powerful illusions, and deflect oncoming attacks.

Wizards grip wands and staves to focus their less potent magics, blasting at their enemies while gathering the energy or time necessary to destroy them in a dazzling hail of arcane might.With few exceptions, wizard attacks are conducted at a distance, away from danger. As living artillery, wizards are well suited to relying on long-range destructive power.


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1. Spells and Damage explained - Credits to Saiph on the official forums.
2. Hell Build #1 - Credits to Ellohime on the official forums.


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reporting in!

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and you still don't have the game yet.. hohohoho
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wizard me XD
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any build you guys are aiming when the game starts? i've been lurking around in the official forum. quite a lot build for mage hehe


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post May 15 2012, 12:41 PM

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wizard no.2 here =D
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post May 15 2012, 01:39 PM

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Haven't really check out the builds... want to try try myself first, experiment biggrin.gif
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post May 15 2012, 01:51 PM

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Gonna wizzie here.
What built have u seen ?
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gona try wizard when i play smile.gif
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wizard~

box will be coming in an hour time drool.gif
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Wizard here for now. Contemplating between wizard or demon hunter =\
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From the short stint I had with the open beta...the wizard feels really different somehow.

Spellcasting was sort of made easy without having to worry what to level, and the stats distribution.

Ah well.

Oh. Hi. Wizzie-to-be here. Always a mage for any rpg played biggrin.gif
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post May 15 2012, 07:19 PM

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wil try wizzie once i get my copy....heh
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not many ppl seems to be using wizard. we'll be a rare commodity! yey
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i wonder why? whats wiz's weakness? i chose wiz as my main coz of the skills.. so cool n badass one.. o.o
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i think personal pref gua. actually wizard is not THAT Much behind other classes. in my opinion blizzard did a good job because many ppl very undecided and end up the classes are quite fairly distributed based on several polls i've seen.

no one flocking to any particular uber cool / imba etc class. all class got nice and not nice
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how is wizard going? I will be playing tomorrow..

Anyone happy with wizard? Why

and anyone unhappy with wizard? Why?
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I got a weird feeling that Wizard got nerfed in the final release. My wizards spells feels weaker than in beta. Maybe its just me... Hmm
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im happy with wizard...massive intel investment..att now 120 / lvl 19 tongue.gif
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lv 19 too, hard to kill santa b4 it portal away, even there are no other enemies around and able to surround him to the corner, i think my damage maybe too low. Anybody know how to calculate damage for wizard's spells ? ie magic missile and chain lightning.
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so far lv19...
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Just heavy int invest and you should be fine with wiz in normal at least for not, never use a pot before so far.....
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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ May 16 2012, 10:03 AM)
Just heavy int invest and you should be fine with wiz in normal at least for not, never use a pot before so far.....
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lol i think i spend more than 100 pot d.
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Wiz quite strong wor, tho I'm only at level 11 smile.gif

My hubby playing demon hunter keep exclaiming: how come you kill monsters with two swipes only??
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haha loves wizard also. nice damage. defense also not bad..
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Wizard can use both hand weapon or not?
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QUOTE(narf03 @ May 16 2012, 05:22 AM)
lv 19 too, hard to kill santa b4 it portal away, even there are no other enemies around and able to surround him to the corner, i think my damage maybe too low. Anybody know how to calculate damage for wizard's spells ? ie magic missile and chain lightning.
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Damage calculation on the skill itself no? If not just head over to the official D3 site. It'll tell you the percentage of weapon damage a particular spell does.

Yes. The damage is based on weapon sweat.gif

QUOTE(jenniferjen @ May 16 2012, 10:03 AM)
Just heavy int invest and you should be fine with wiz in normal at least for not, never use a pot before so far.....
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You mean wearing int-boosting items, or have they changed it so that you can personally level up int? blink.gif

QUOTE(Becabal @ May 16 2012, 10:58 AM)
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Dual wield? No. Two-handed weapons, yes. The staff is two handed isn't it? Heck, I've equipped a bow before laugh.gif
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QUOTE(marquis @ May 16 2012, 11:05 AM)
Damage calculation  on the skill itself no? If not just head over to the official D3 site. It'll tell you the percentage of weapon damage a particular spell does.

Yes. The damage is based on weapon sweat.gif
You mean wearing int-boosting items, or have they changed it so that you can personally level up int?  blink.gif
Dual wield? No. Two-handed weapons, yes. The staff is two handed isn't it? Heck, I've equipped a bow before laugh.gif
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Two-handed Axe wielding wizard reporting in.

Btw, the skill dmg is based on weapon izit? Then I gonna wield Axe for the rest of the game coz Axe dmg is pretty high. Higher than those Staff
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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wiza...d!Z!Z.a
My build for 1st 13 levels smile.gif Using Starter Edition while waiting for my CE.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wiza...3;ZX!ZaZa.a
My build for mid-level. (20s)

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wiza...3;cXb!bZYbb
My build for high-level. (30s)

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wiza...;cXW!YYZcbb
My build for Nightmare-level. (40s)

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wiza...;cXW!YcYYcb
My build for Hell-level. (50s)

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wiza...;cXW!YcYYcc
My build for inferno-level. (60)

All this is based to my play style.


Added on May 16, 2012, 11:33 am
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Two-handed Axe wielding wizard reporting in.

Btw, the skill dmg is based on weapon izit? Then I gonna wield Axe for the rest of the game coz Axe dmg is pretty high. Higher than those Staff
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haha for early levels yes... later a wand + orb or tome will give more dmg

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i think at later levels the wand / staff will start to give more useful boosts to wizard, takkan hold 2H axe all the way lol
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Uhmm Wiz level 10 right now.


Why ppl talk bout build instead as the skill only by unlock... Uhmmm.

From wat I see is more into ur set attribute you get tat makes you different.

And player skill.... brows.gif

Wiz damage is higher compare to demon hunter, cause damage calculation of skills is = 100% or even = 200%.

Demon hunter very fast spell spamming like machine gun, but damage calculation of skills is = 40% ~ 60%.

Correct me if am wrong. Is about my observation.

Thn if run away, sure demon hunter win, got a skill like quick foot or dash.

Wiz is give AOE effect while get surronded.

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wizard has teleport and slow time smile.gif
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QUOTE(OldKidz @ May 16 2012, 11:38 AM)
Uhmm Wiz level 10 right now.
Why ppl talk bout build instead as the skill only by unlock... Uhmmm.

From wat I see is more into ur set attribute you get tat makes you different.

And player skill.... brows.gif

Wiz damage is higher compare to demon hunter, cause damage calculation of skills is = 100% or even = 200%.

Demon hunter very fast spell spamming like machine gun, but damage calculation of skills is = 40% ~ 60%.

Correct me if am wrong. Is about my observation.

Thn if run away, sure demon hunter win, got a skill like quick foot or dash.

Wiz is give AOE effect while get surronded.
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so the spell, ie magic missile or chain lightning is based on the damage the weapon u are using ? i can use sword, staff, club, etc.
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QUOTE(phoenixxx @ May 16 2012, 11:43 AM)
wizard has teleport and slow time smile.gif
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slow time good ah ? what it does ? cast liao like nothing happen, i switch back to the aoe freeze biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(phoenixxx @ May 16 2012, 11:43 AM)
wizard has teleport and slow time smile.gif
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level 10, havent unlock those skill yet ma. only froze the surrounding.

QUOTE(narf03 @ May 16 2012, 11:44 AM)
so the spell, ie magic missile or chain lightning is based on the damage the weapon u are using ? i can use sword, staff, club, etc.
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Yeap, even double hand weapon also can.

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slow time good for matrix style... esp when lots of range i suppose. i don't find the need for it yet, maybe later will. freeze is still good biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(OldKidz @ May 16 2012, 11:38 AM)
Uhmm Wiz level 10 right now.
Why ppl talk bout build instead as the skill only by unlock... Uhmmm.

From wat I see is more into ur set attribute you get tat makes you different.

And player skill.... brows.gif

Wiz damage is higher compare to demon hunter, cause damage calculation of skills is = 100% or even = 200%.

Demon hunter very fast spell spamming like machine gun, but damage calculation of skills is = 40% ~ 60%.

Correct me if am wrong. Is about my observation.

Thn if run away, sure demon hunter win, got a skill like quick foot or dash.

Wiz is give AOE effect while get surronded.
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what attribute? everytime i level up = skill unlocked, rune unlocked only... then u just choose which skill u wan to use, and choose the rune. tats it
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kinda funny a wizard holding a 2 handed axe..

manage to level up my blacksmith to lvl 1. this is a very big gold sink >.< 10k gold for 1 level. and lvl 2 start at 4k
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QUOTE(TiF @ May 16 2012, 12:01 PM)
what attribute? everytime i level up = skill unlocked, rune unlocked only... then u just choose which skill u wan to use, and choose the rune. tats it
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eh equipment attritube lar bang.

let say add 60 life, add 10 vit, add 10 int etc.

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QUOTE(dynames07 @ May 16 2012, 12:05 PM)
kinda funny a wizard holding a 2 handed axe..

manage to level up my blacksmith to lvl 1. this is a very big gold sink >.< 10k gold for 1 level. and lvl 2 start at 4k
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dont forget your stash brows.gif
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QUOTE(OldKidz @ May 16 2012, 12:08 PM)
eh equipment attritube lar bang.

let say add 60 life, add 10 vit, add 10 int etc.
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ooo, i now wear all those give me % finding magic item 1 biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(shykull @ May 16 2012, 11:32 AM)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wiza...d!Z!Z.a
My build for 1st 13 levels smile.gif Using Starter Edition while waiting for my CE.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wiza...3;ZX!ZaZa.a
My build for mid-level. (20s)

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wiza...3;cXb!bZYbb
My build for high-level. (30s)

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wiza...;cXW!YYZcbb
My build for Nightmare-level. (40s)

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wiza...;cXW!YcYYcb
My build for Hell-level. (50s)

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wiza...;cXW!YcYYcc
My build for inferno-level. (60)

All this is based to my play style.


Added on May 16, 2012, 11:33 am

haha for early levels yes... later a wand + orb or tome will give more dmg
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THE man himself! Thanks for the guide man biggrin.gif

Btw, at what levels will we be able to get our hands on the orb/tome. I'd access the D3 site myself, but it seems to be taking forever to load - for some strange reason.


QUOTE(TiF @ May 16 2012, 12:11 PM)
ooo, i now wear all those give me % finding magic item 1  biggrin.gif
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Question regarding MF. Is it advisable to do this from an early stage? Since you'll be sacrificing quite a bit just to get more MF. Should MF gear be saved for a particular level/foe?
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my wizard's holding a shield all the time... hahaha... quite useful when getting mob coz able to block their damage... smile.gif
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i think MF gears are very useful. my aim wearing this is to make sure i get a lot of magic items. after that, i'll salvage all unused item to get the subtle material and tooth. this thing is the material needed to carft later on. so, better start collecting now
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yep, i actually ditched the more dmg-centric builds and go for MF and GF now... up until the game starts to get too difficult
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QUOTE(dynames07 @ May 16 2012, 12:22 PM)
i think MF gears are very useful. my aim wearing this is to make sure i get a lot of magic items. after that, i'll salvage all unused item to get the subtle material and tooth. this thing is the material needed to carft later on. so, better start collecting now
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yep, i actually ditched the more dmg-centric builds and go for MF and GF now... up until the game starts to get too difficult
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I see. Hmmm.. Thanks for the inputs smile.gif
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How much damage you guys deal for Electrocute? Which skills INT affect better?

I only get around 50 damage for Electrocute at lvl 19.
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Yes was thinking to create a bash bash bash character just do GF and MF, build up my stash and blacksmith first then proceed biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Becabal @ May 16 2012, 10:58 AM)
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so far at lvl 11, the skill that i like the most is diamond skin. absorbed damage but sadly, only last for 15 second. if use correctly at boss or mini boss fight, you will end the battle without being injured

most hated skill at lvl 11? the electric thing. i cant get it right. the thing goes randomly zzz
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what best follower for wiz?
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wiz can have few various of build:
u can be dmger or tanker, cooperative player.
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QUOTE(marquis @ May 16 2012, 12:15 PM)
THE man himself! Thanks for the guide man biggrin.gif

Btw, at what levels will we be able to get our hands on the orb/tome. I'd access the D3 site myself, but it seems to be taking forever to load - for some strange reason.
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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/orb/

At lvl 5 you can get orb already if it happens to drop.


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what best follower for wiz?
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You can have all 3 smile.gif

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probably the templar since he can help tank the mobs for u
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QUOTE(shykull @ May 16 2012, 02:10 PM)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/orb/

At lvl 5 you can get orb already if it happens to drop.


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have all 3 together at the same time?

if can choose only 1 then i sure take templar as tank
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sif tank. Go all damage take sorceress!!! tongue.gif
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if wizard, go damage alll the way mang . still looking for a pure dmg dealer wizard build
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Level 22 wizard reporting in.

Do you guys use shield? I am using a wand and those 3 balls thingy smile.gif


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QUOTE(yjeen @ May 16 2012, 05:24 PM)
Level 22 wizard reporting in.

Do you guys use shield? I am using a wand and those 3 balls thingy smile.gif
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ya man,if w/o shield, i think i would run like shit after demon hits me sad.gif
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lol.. i have both WD n Wizzard.. but my wizard looks more Cun! cant wait to use anglic wings on him once my CE arrives!


Added on May 16, 2012, 7:34 pmmelee wizard here so im using shield + spectral blade + iron skin + ice thingy forgot name tongue.gif

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QUOTE(dynames07 @ May 16 2012, 01:57 PM)
so far at lvl 11, the skill that i like the most is diamond skin. absorbed damage but sadly, only last for 15 second. if use correctly at boss or mini boss fight, you will end the battle without being injured

most hated skill at lvl 11? the electric thing. i cant get it right. the thing goes randomly zzz
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Diamond skin only last for 6s iianm. 15s is the cd.

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diamond skin saved my a55 many times... act 3 area cant go all offensive d.
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wizard here!

am I the only one who thinks the male wizard looks like a wuss and sound like a high nose B!tch? Honestly his dialog lines and manner of speech reeks of a snob.

Level 11 now and tried to make him a damager but cannot... not enuf power to cast non stop... not enuf health to even take some damage if i give him sword and shield. so now trying out bow and still have to run away like chicken when there are some tougher enemies....
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haha wizard hard to tank la... get the templar to do the job for u (there are some nice +vit rings later that makes him basically cannot die)

for me in SP i realize those channeled spells like ray of frost, disintegration not easy to use, since u basically gotta stand there and let ppl tofusmash u. prefer arcane orb.
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Hey is tat anyway to increase the arcane power? low arcane power is bored wink.gif
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Calling all fellow Wizards! This thread will be used to post / discuss builds and anything else Wizard related like how to seduce a Barb or something
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Haha seduce a Barb?? Haha. Those Barb look so old lol
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guys, how you all choose a weapon?

wizard skill based by weapon damage rite?

so should i choose a high DPS weapon, or a weapon with high damage, but slow attack speed (hence lower DPS)
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^^ good question, i believe atkspeed affect your casting speed too...
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i dont think we can + the stats on our own right? depends on EQ only then? and about skill tree.. quite confusing
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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ May 17 2012, 02:35 PM)
^^ good question, i believe atkspeed affect your casting speed too...
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yea, just read at their forum seems it atkspeed affect casting speed

hmmm

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i dont think we can + the stats on our own right? depends on EQ only then? and about skill tree.. quite confusing
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stats add automatically when level up

skills automatically learn all too, same that you will get all the runes when level up

just that you need to mix and match which skill and which rune to use
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QUOTE(law1777 @ May 17 2012, 02:36 PM)
i dont think we can + the stats on our own right? depends on EQ only then? and about skill tree.. quite confusing
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The skill tree is not that confusing.
Basically you have a few active skills that you can use at a time.
And on each section have multiple skills to choose from.
Runes on each skill help to improve that particular skill.
Basically you want to choose which skills you like the most to be your active skills and which runes to help improve them smile.gif

I dont know about +stats but if youre good with hunting and salvaging you can always craft again and again Xd
But that probably will take you much much longer time.
Or get the yellow weapons biggrin.gif
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i see.. thank you guys for the guides and advices. i have a friend who is now lv30+ and he has alot of yellow eq with him.. eq for us lower level people
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ May 17 2012, 01:33 PM)
guys, how you all choose a weapon?

wizard skill based by weapon damage rite?

so should i choose a high DPS weapon, or a weapon with high damage, but slow attack speed (hence lower DPS)
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Open inventory.. equip it... see the lower left corner of the inventory screen got your DPS performance. If increase leave it equip. Else swap back.

also other stats like increase MF and GF auto equip smile.gif

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QUOTE(shykull @ May 17 2012, 03:16 PM)
Open inventory.. equip it... see the lower left corner of the inventory screen got your DPS performance. If increase leave it equip. Else swap back.

also other stats like increase MF and GF auto equip smile.gif
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yea i saw that, but i am thinking, does that affects magic or melee attack lol

seems like should follow it, haha
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Anyone have lower EQ for wizard (gold)? I can give it back once i get beter one.
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Level 12 Wizard reporting in...

I am using staff + orb... must admit that when facing the bosses or big mobs I have to flee or stand further away... haha...

Currently equipped with mostly blue items and 2 yellow ones. Not using items that adds strength... mostly going for damage, intelli and vitality items...Not sure if that is correct ohmy.gif

Am still figuring out the skills build combo as well... sweat.gif
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I find that the diamond skin seems too necessary compared to other skills. Not every time there are health globes within reach when my potions are in cooldown and health is low.
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QUOTE(yimingwuzere @ May 17 2012, 05:03 PM)
I find that the diamond skin seems too necessary compared to other skills. Not every time there are health globes within reach when my potions are in cooldown and health is low.
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But at our level, the diamond skin duration is too short I feel...only 6 secs
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diamond skin is more of an emergency resort while you try to escape
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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ May 17 2012, 05:16 PM)
diamond skin is more of an emergency resort while you try to escape
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try it with the rune that reduces casting cost, u can tank mob while using disintegration... i find it very effective
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Hi, anyone here solo-ing all the way to Diablo?

For me. i must party with other to tank all the bosses.... Wiz too soft.
1 grab from Diablo 5/6 hp gone. (i have 1.6k hp)
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I solo final boss with wizard using

- Diamond Skin - Activate this when you're in pinch or you want to combo with Disintegrate.
- Magic Weapon -
- Hydra - Bosses hurts alot from this. Really.
- Disintegrate - Main skill to kill boss.
- Archon - When the boss is dieing use this at a far distance and use your laser.
- Teleport - Tele away whenever your diamond skin is on CD

My weapon is a double handed wand around 67dps + 15% increase damage + add life per kill + other stats.

My total damage is 804. (with Magic weapon up) - this is not included my INT. INT is around 700. So, magic has 700% increase damage.

Wiz is of course weak. If you feel like you're dieing too much, throw your INT armor and get those with + VIT (around 60+) which will give you about 1k health.

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+vit and +str are good too as +str does increase physical resistances.
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QUOTE(shojikun @ May 17 2012, 09:15 PM)
+vit and +str are good too as +str does increase physical resistances.
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That's is true that +Str increases your armor. But, wizard have a skill called Energy Armor which increase your Armor by 65% and I still find it useless because I still need Diamond skin to survive.

Just IMO, wizard don't really benefits from the extra armor. It's better for you to go for Shield with a decent 'damage block'. I have over 1500 armor with Energy Armor but I still die easily without Diamond skin.

Well this is for Solo mode btw (:
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QUOTE(Nels @ May 17 2012, 09:23 PM)
That's is true that +Str increases your armor. But, wizard have a skill called Energy Armor which increase your Armor by 65% and I still find it useless because I still need Diamond skin to survive.

Just IMO, wizard don't really benefits from the extra armor. It's better for you to go for Shield with a decent 'damage block'. I have over 1500 armor with Energy Armor but I still die easily without Diamond skin.

Well this is for Solo mode btw (:
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well for solo, i do not tank, that what are templars are there for althou sometime they are vvery useless, i mostly just hit and run, with freeze and force wave when im in pinch. smile.gif
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QUOTE(zandara @ May 17 2012, 08:12 PM)
Hi, anyone here solo-ing all the way to Diablo?

For me. i must party with other to tank all the bosses.... Wiz too soft.
1 grab from Diablo 5/6 hp gone. (i have 1.6k hp)
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i dont think that the wizard is too weak, it just that you have to employs a suitable tactics when using a wizard. since he wizard is quite delicate i used templar most of the time as bait, then cast a spell from afar.. lol

btw, been addicted with the sorcerer during my diablo 2 time i must say kudos to blizzard for making a lot of improvement to the wizard. one of the most notable one is adding an attack spell that did not consume arcane power (back then it is called mana). however the inability to edit the stats did somehow makes it less challenging in building a character.

currently a level 13 wizard, still trying to familiarised with the new game. one thing i hate most is the poison monster, the life drains like crazy. and i cant seem to find any EQ that comes with the poison resistant attribute.. damn
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Sorry, nubcake question.... what is MF and GF?
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ May 18 2012, 01:25 AM)
Sorry, nubcake question.... what is MF and GF?
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Item with Magic Find stats/Gold Find

QUOTE(shojikun @ May 17 2012, 09:32 PM)
well for solo, i do not tank, that what are templars are there for althou sometime they are vvery useless, i mostly just hit and run, with freeze and force wave when im in pinch. smile.gif
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Oh yes I do that too early in the game (: Well you're right. With a tanker, those extra armor are benefitial. Less damage receive, more survival survivability since you don't need the extra health, its better to go for armor.

On a side note, Wave of force deals out a crazy amount of damage. Especially chances on getting critical magic hit. Anyone notice?
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im lvl 34 wiz now
surprise my Life is 4.5k hp...normal?
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QUOTE(Nels @ May 18 2012, 03:42 AM)
Item with Magic Find stats/Gold Find
Oh yes I do that too early in the game (: Well you're right. With a tanker, those extra armor are benefitial. Less damage receive, more survival survivability since you don't need the extra health, its better to go for armor.

On a side note, Wave of force deals out a crazy amount of damage. Especially chances on getting critical magic hit. Anyone notice?
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yup i notice, but i love my meteor/blizzard rofl! biggrin.gif
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i also notice (surprisingly) that hydra hits quite hard. really love that thing. range also very good.

agree on diamond skin + disintegrate haha

looking forward for arcane blast with arcane orbit to be used while time slow is activated. must be awesome!
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Damn. I'm only at level 11 sweat.gif

Guys, what are your thoughts on this:

I'm currently using Original Wirt's Leg. Despite it's low damage, I find the 10% MF to be VERY attractive.

However, I deal damage like a school girl who just had a break up and has no access to sugary stuff.

Think I should just stick to my leg, or should I screw the 10% MF in favour of better damage?

I'm inclined for the former, but everytime I wanna switch, I find a blue item. laugh.gif


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QUOTE(marquis @ May 18 2012, 11:38 AM)
Damn. I'm only at level 11 sweat.gif

Guys, what are your thoughts on this:

I'm currently using Original Wirt's Leg. Despite it's low damage, I find the 10% MF to be VERY attractive.

However, I deal damage like a school girl who just had a break up and has no access to sugary stuff.

Think I should just stick to my leg, or should I screw the 10% MF in favour of better damage?

I'm inclined for the former, but everytime I wanna switch, I find a blue item. laugh.gif
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up2u really, if you want a better item, then stack more MF depise the damage u deal., just know how to survive and kill ok already biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(marquis @ May 18 2012, 11:38 AM)
Damn. I'm only at level 11 sweat.gif

Guys, what are your thoughts on this:

I'm currently using Original Wirt's Leg. Despite it's low damage, I find the 10% MF to be VERY attractive.

However, I deal damage like a school girl who just had a break up and has no access to sugary stuff.

Think I should just stick to my leg, or should I screw the 10% MF in favour of better damage?

I'm inclined for the former, but everytime I wanna switch, I find a blue item. laugh.gif
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IMHO, +10% MH at starting don't help much, since you are just on normal mode, the item that drop won't be superbly good

might as well get + damage item, kill faster, go in to hell or inferno mode, then only pray for high +magic item to drop biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ May 18 2012, 02:59 PM)
IMHO, +10% MH at starting don't help much, since you are just on normal mode, the item that drop won't be superbly good

might as well get + damage item, kill faster, go in to hell or inferno mode, then only pray for high +magic item to drop biggrin.gif
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yea, sam is right, +MF in early / normal mode would not get you superior items, might as well farm faster and lvling 1st now wink.gif
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ May 18 2012, 02:59 PM)
IMHO, +10% MH at starting don't help much, since you are just on normal mode, the item that drop won't be superbly good

might as well get + damage item, kill faster, go in to hell or inferno mode, then only pray for high +magic item to drop biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kanethesun @ May 18 2012, 03:22 PM)
yea, sam is right, +MF in early / normal mode would not get you superior items, might as well farm faster and lvling 1st now wink.gif
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Noted! Thanks guys biggrin.gif

So I guess I'll revert to my better spec'd items.

How bout int vs vit. Coz 5 int gives you damage boost less than 1%, while 5 vit gives you 50 life.

Thoughts?
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QUOTE(marquis @ May 18 2012, 04:12 PM)
Noted! Thanks guys biggrin.gif

So I guess I'll revert to my better spec'd items.

How bout int vs vit. Coz 5 int gives you damage boost less than 1%, while 5 vit gives you 50 life.

Thoughts?
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get better equipment with INT to increase DPS and Vit + Str to increase HP(Vit) and Physical resistance(STR) for survival.
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Between all the 4 main left-click skills, which do you recommend the most? I can't decide between the single-shot pewpew and electrocute...
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ May 18 2012, 09:50 PM)
Between all the 4 main left-click skills, which do you recommend the most? I can't decide between the single-shot pewpew and electrocute...
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i prefer the 2nd option, since the skills allow me to blast past the minions horde for less of time. but then again i'm just at 13, so not much to say for the 2 latter skills. but i do believe it is much better
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Wizard is jus too good for aoe killing, u get extra xp for that too! Pew pew pew
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hey now i lvl 20, but the arcane power stay at 100 only?! wthack
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QUOTE(CocoMonGo @ May 19 2012, 11:31 AM)
hey now i lvl 20, but the arcane power stay at 100 only?! wthack
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There is a rune to increase it by 20. I find that is more then enough to spam double meteor.
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^wiz is paperlike laugh.gif..mine currently 4k hp level 37, also can die if those mobs come storming in tongue.gif..reason y i like bringing along Templar biggrin.gif

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Blizzard + Disintegrate + Hydra (MASSIVE KILL)
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at level 41.....with 7k hp.....still can die in nightmare mode.....wth...
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Meteor? What level is that again?
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ May 19 2012, 03:24 PM)
Meteor? What level is that again?
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Lvl 25 you would be able to use it. As for the runes level 29, 34, 43, 48, 58.


*Guys please make sure you use Magic Weapon skills + Force weapon runes = the damage increase is superb.
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hi guys.. how do u kill Fuad The Cannibal at mage lvl 16? its vampiric touch is very powerful lah

its early part of Act 2
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Can i know wizard use what kind of weapon ? issit all type of weapon also can use?
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QUOTE(ICeSoul @ May 19 2012, 05:13 PM)
hi guys.. how do u kill Fuad The Cannibal at mage lvl 16? its vampiric touch is very powerful lah

its early part of Act 2
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i just took him down just know..
just spam ur skill till he is dead
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QUOTE(ICeSoul @ May 19 2012, 05:13 PM)
hi guys.. how do u kill Fuad The Cannibal at mage lvl 16? its vampiric touch is very powerful lah

its early part of Act 2
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do u have templar... try and get him to kite for u


Added on May 19, 2012, 8:12 pmSo guys, after a couple of days... I'm sure there are some pretty high levelers here. What's your build? What works in NM / Hell++ ?

For me, I'm currently lvl 50 in Act 4 Nightmare. Skills:

Magic missile w split
Arcane Orb with nova
Hydra with freeze
Diamond skin w enduring
Magic weapon with Force weapon
Ice armor w the rune that randomly summons ice blast when hit



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lv41 wiz

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For me, I'm currently lvl 42 in Act 2 Nightmare. Skills:

Magic missile /w split
Disintegrate /w chaos nexus
Hydra /w venom
Diamond skin /w prism
Wave of Force /w affinity
Enegry armor /w absorption


**working well for my playstyle nod.gif

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QUOTE(monza84 @ May 19 2012, 08:27 PM)
For me, I'm currently lvl 42 in Act 2 Nightmare. Skills:

Magic missile /w split
Disintegrate /w chaos nexus
Hydra /w venom
Diamond skin /w prism
Wave of Force /w affinity
Enegry armor /w absorption
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i somehow find disintegrate and any other stand still and cast skill not practical in single player... nightmare mode onwards its all hit n run no time to stand and shoot
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QUOTE(phoenixxx @ May 19 2012, 08:30 PM)
i somehow find disintegrate and any other stand still and cast skill not practical in single player... nightmare mode onwards its all hit n run no time to stand and shoot
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well, my way biggrin.gif :

Cast Hydra near the enemies, and then shoot disintegrate + cast diamond (when enemies near) *time to run away or if cannot run, just cast FoW to knock em back tongue.gif, energy armor (with passive rune Galvanizing Ward) to heal up tongue.gif


Added on May 19, 2012, 8:38 pm*this can clear all those small fries and left with elites/mob boss biggrin.gif...and then, time to play run and shoot biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(monza84 @ May 19 2012, 08:37 PM)
well, my way biggrin.gif :

Cast Hydra near the enemies, and then shoot disintegrate + cast diamond (when enemies near) *time to run away or if cannot run, just cast FoW to knock em back tongue.gif, energy armor (with passive rune Galvanizing Ward) to heal up tongue.gif


Added on May 19, 2012, 8:38 pm*this can clear all those small fries and left with elites/mob boss biggrin.gif...and then, time to play run and shoot biggrin.gif
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gonna try it

disintegrate is an awesome skill ... both cc and direct damage. if can incorporate into SP ... drool.gif drool.gif thx for the tip bro icon_rolleyes.gif
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gonna try it

disintegrate is an awesome skill ... both cc and direct damage. if can incorporate into SP ...  drool.gif  drool.gif thx for the tip bro  icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(phoenixxx @ May 19 2012, 07:58 PM)
mortar elites own us so bad ><
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**playing coop, damn we can cast as many as we want if got Monk/Barb to tank drool.gif


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agree.. our hp too little
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what is your current HP?

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QUOTE(monza84 @ May 19 2012, 08:51 PM)
**playing coop, damn we can cast as many as we want if got Monk/Barb to tank drool.gif


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what is your current HP?
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2.5k nia i think

lvl40 on nightmare act2
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2.5k nia i think

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sweat.gif...mine level 42 act 2 nightmare also, HP is 7k smile.gif
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lol

btw, u buy a lot things at AH?

my gear mostly still sucks, beside weapon and off hand one

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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ May 19 2012, 09:11 PM)
lol

btw, u buy a lot things at AH?

my gear mostly still sucks, beside weapon and off hand one
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Can i know wizard use what kind of weapon ? issit all type of weapon also can use?
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I solo without any mercenaries. (reason because I usually play with a team of 4 with my buddies) - Solo if only they're not around.

I find it pretty much good with this skill build. One thing because I deal tons of damage with Meteor and Disintegrate and I able to teleport away + clones everytime needed.

Eg : A mob trying to hit me, I teled away with clones distracting him I cast Meteor + Disintegrate. When he tries to go for me, I activate Diamond skin + Disintegrate (usually this finishes it) if you're hit - usually bosses in nightmare or hell mode or inferno will deal you more then 15% damage to you per hit this immediately reset your teleport skill so you can teleport again and repeat all the steps

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QUOTE(Nels @ May 20 2012, 01:58 AM)
I solo without any mercenaries. (reason because I usually play with a team of 4 with my buddies) - Solo if only they're not around.

I find it pretty much good with this skill build. One thing because I deal tons of damage with Meteor and Disintegrate and I able to teleport away + clones everytime needed.

Eg : A mob trying to hit me, I teled away with clones distracting him I cast Meteor + Disintegrate. When he tries to go for me, I activate Diamond skin + Disintegrate (usually this finishes it) if you're hit - usually bosses in nightmare or hell mode or inferno will deal you more then 15% damage to you per hit this immediately reset your teleport skill so you can teleport again and repeat all the steps

Currently in Hell Act 1.
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ahahaha, i use this build on normal nod.gif..and its pretty good on nightmare thumbup.gif

just that now i like to tank...and guys, act 2 boss is the easiest to defeat if you know brows.gif...i didn't do anything except run around laugh.gif

What i do **Spoilers to those that haven't got to act 2 boss yet tongue.gif

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Is it ok to die, like alot times in d game? Those lagness always make me die.
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Did any1 reached nightmare ACT3/4?
I fell so defenseless even with 12k hp and 800+ int :-S


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Eg : A mob trying to hit me, I teled away with clones distracting him I cast Meteor + Disintegrate. When he tries to go for me, I activate Diamond skin + Disintegrate (usually this finishes it) if you're hit - usually bosses in nightmare or hell mode or inferno will deal you more then 15% damage to you per hit this immediately reset your teleport skill so you can teleport again and repeat all the steps

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Tele and Diamond skin equipped at the same time?
*edit* ok juz found it, can customize from option, shud be easier 2 play if customized

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QUOTE(ragk @ May 21 2012, 09:57 AM)
Did any1 reached nightmare ACT3/4?
I fell so defenseless even with 1.2k hp and 800+ int :-S


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Tele and Diamond skin equipped at the same time?
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nightmare act3 with 1.2k hp????

won't most mob 1 hit ko u?

ur int is high btw drool.gif
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ May 21 2012, 10:14 AM)
nightmare act3 with 1.2k hp????

won't most mob 1 hit ko u?

ur int is high btw  drool.gif
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1mob is like 300-2k dmg, 800 is low, i sacrifice alot of int to increase my hp


Added on May 21, 2012, 10:18 ameh sorry is 12k hp LOL, typo

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1mob is like 300-2k dmg, 800 is low, i sacrifice alot of int to increase my hp


Added on May 21, 2012, 10:18 ameh sorry is 12k hp LOL, typo
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LOL. btw i am on act 3 nightmare too, just starting not long

just 9k hp and 400++ int. 1.2k damage nia, if u feel useless, then.....
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ May 21 2012, 10:26 AM)
LOL. btw i am on act 3 nightmare too, just starting not long

just 9k hp and 400++ int. 1.2k damage nia, if u feel useless, then.....
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spend some money on auction house, u could get good gear from it, just set max buyout 10-20k, ignore those 100k+ gear, they juz randomly put with high price
I just realize we can customize the skill set, mayb tats the reason make me fell hard

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spend some money on auction house, u could get good gear from it, just set max buyout 10-20k, ignore those 100k+ gear, they juz randomly put with high price
I just realize we can customize the skill set, mayb tats the reason make me fell hard
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oh yes, without elective moded ticked, surely it's hard tongue.gif
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im lvl 34 wiz now
surprise my Life is 4.5k hp...normal?
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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ May 20 2012, 06:51 PM)
Rocking a wizard with a shield  tongue.gif

How to ruin your game by buying cheap rares from AH

700 Intelligence and 400 dps at level 26, can easily one shot bosses and mobs
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How did you get 400 dmg?
I am 2 level higher than you and only get like 300+ dmg summore2 handed weapon...
please enlight..
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my barbarian frend juz get pawned by Hell Act1 zombie, lolz
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Im proud of myself, i survive till nightmare Azmadon with this stupid skill set, LMAO
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QUOTE(Nels @ May 20 2012, 01:58 AM)
I solo without any mercenaries. (reason because I usually play with a team of 4 with my buddies) - Solo if only they're not around.

I find it pretty much good with this skill build. One thing because I deal tons of damage with Meteor and Disintegrate and I able to teleport away + clones everytime needed.

Eg : A mob trying to hit me, I teled away with clones distracting him I cast Meteor + Disintegrate. When he tries to go for me, I activate Diamond skin + Disintegrate (usually this finishes it) if you're hit - usually bosses in nightmare or hell mode or inferno will deal you more then 15% damage to you per hit this immediately reset your teleport skill so you can teleport again and repeat all the steps

Here is my build.

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How did you get 400 dmg?
I am 2 level higher than you and only get like 300+ dmg summore2 handed weapon...
please enlight..
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Hi guys, wanna share my current build for Co-op Inferno. I feel its pretty decent and balanced, able to survive + dish out dmg

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i would like to know what is a decent armor build for Hell & inferno. Need at least how much DPS to easy kill mobs or how much armor&HP to survide. What is the best EQ selection. Anyone can answer me?
Currently i am in nightmare act 4-level 48
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i would like to know what is a decent armor build for Hell & inferno. Need at least how much DPS to easy kill mobs or how much armor&HP to survide. What is the best EQ selection. Anyone can answer me?
Currently i am in nightmare act 4-level 48
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I am a wizard Lvl 50 with armor 1.5k, DPS 2.4k and 13k Hp. I always party with 2 or 3 ppls and there is still hard to tank due to mobs is increasingly tough in party of 4. I would believe depend on your skill build and hows the teamwork would be.
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QUOTE(Zelda85 @ May 21 2012, 12:24 PM)
i would like to know what is a decent armor build for Hell & inferno. Need at least how much DPS to easy kill mobs or how much armor&HP to survide. What is the best EQ selection. Anyone can answer me?
Currently i am in nightmare act 4-level 48
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Inferno around 10k dps. My stats atm is ~30k hp, ~3.5k armor(i think), ~10k dps. Still can improve much more. Most of my sockets are mostly + HP
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i'm in act 2 of hell and have around 2.5k armor (with buff), 7+k dps and around 16k hp.

getting pwned like mad. i've tried various builds including low vit + force armor but doesnt seem to work, usually takes a number of death + marathon around the map to kill 1 pack of elites.

vampiric / mortar melee mobs basically forces me to skip
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QUOTE(phoenixxx @ May 21 2012, 01:52 PM)
i'm in act 2 of hell and have around 2.5k armor (with buff), 7+k dps and around 16k hp.

getting pwned like mad. i've tried various builds including low vit + force armor but doesnt seem to work, usually takes a number of death + marathon around the map to kill 1 pack of elites.

vampiric / mortar melee mobs basically forces me to skip
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very low vit + force armor + super high regen works best in inferno, but i'm not really fond of going that build due to dying to everything that AoEs

care to share your skill build?
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This is my build (currently trying arcane regen + spam orb). Previously was magic missile w seeker

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wiza...3;Xfc!YccbY

I use elective mode so the last slot is a Magic weap with force weapon.
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QUOTE(Szzz @ May 21 2012, 12:54 PM)
Inferno around 10k dps. My stats atm is ~30k hp, ~3.5k armor(i think), ~10k dps. Still can improve much more. Most of my sockets are mostly + HP
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I would like to see what is the EQ you wearing drool.gif
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QUOTE(phoenixxx @ May 21 2012, 02:02 PM)
This is my build (currently trying arcane regen + spam orb). Previously was magic missile w seeker

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wiza...3;Xfc!YccbY

I use elective mode so the last slot is a Magic weap with force weapon.
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i like arcane spam build as well...in hell solo i usually go with Magic Missile + Charge Blast and Arcane Orb + Tap the Source...with TTS i can actually cast it almost all the time
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I still the AoE effects of Wave of force is kinda good for us to save our ass when we got surrounded by sudden gangbangs lol

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stumbled upon an interesting read on how wiz damage is calculated, posted on main page 1 under useful reads, do take a look.. quite well written
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I would like to see what is the EQ you wearing  drool.gif
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I still the AoE effects of Wave of force  is kinda good for us to save our ass when we got surrounded by sudden gangbangs lol
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The problem is, not enough skillbar lol...if have to choose between Diamond Skin, Teleport, Mirror Image and WoF...I'd take Teleport
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U teleport but they Wil chasing. WoF will be damaging n stun them for awhile
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stumbled upon an interesting read on how wiz damage is calculated, posted on main page 1 under useful reads, do take a look.. quite well written
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wad dying a lot on act 3 nightmare....

then spend 260k++ on few itmes, include weapon and some armour...

damage from 1.2k become 3.6k LOL

act 3 become a walk in the park, that beautiful spider i just stand and hit LOL
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QUOTE(phoenixxx @ May 21 2012, 01:52 PM)
i'm in act 2 of hell and have around 2.5k armor (with buff), 7+k dps and around 16k hp.

getting pwned like mad. i've tried various builds including low vit + force armor but doesnt seem to work, usually takes a number of death + marathon around the map to kill 1 pack of elites.

vampiric / mortar melee mobs basically forces me to skip
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Im level 51 wizard aith around 1.5k armor 19k hp, 6k dmg also keep dying sweat.gif , maybe need to find some party member to cover wizard.


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wad dying a lot on act 3 nightmare....

then spend 260k++ on few itmes, include weapon and some armour...

damage from 1.2k become 3.6k LOL

act 3 become a walk in the park, that beautiful spider i just stand and hit LOL
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At act 3 nightmare 1.2k dmg is definately not enough biggrin.gif

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guys.. does Sparkflint increases magic damage as well?
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QUOTE(law1777 @ May 21 2012, 08:17 PM)
guys.. does Sparkflint increases magic damage as well?
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Yes, my Familiar with sparkflint and Magic weopon with force weopon is giving me another 1+k dmg. smile.gif

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sparkflint and force weapon can b used together at the same time? dont think so
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sparkflint and force weapon can b used together at the same time? dont think so
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enable elective mode.
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sparkflint and force weapon can b used together at the same time? dont think so
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Remember guys, enable ELECTIVE MODE so u can choose the skills u want and not limited by the bar provided nod.gif
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QUOTE(JAYworm @ May 21 2012, 08:12 PM)
Im level 51 wizard aith around 1.5k armor 19k hp, 6k dmg also keep dying sweat.gif , maybe need to find some party member to cover wizard.


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At act 3 nightmare 1.2k dmg is definately not enough  biggrin.gif
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I'm still wondering if staff is better than wand (or vice versa) , the DPS difference is quite obvious. In diablo3 forum some even use 2 hand axe blink.gif

and btw do you guys could stand and disintegrate in harder(inferno / hell) mode? I found myself running / kiting all the time when solo-ing of course sweat.gif
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Everyone on Reddit plus some other gaming forums are going on and on about the Wizard being nearly invulnerable with a few specific runes and spells. Problem is, half the runes needed for that to work is at level 40+/50+. What are you guys using at Level 3x running through Nightmare (if you're soloing)?

Also, for mercs, while the Templar seems the most cookie cutter for Wizards, would the CC of the Enchantress make for a viable alternative?
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QUOTE(stinger @ May 21 2012, 09:32 PM)
I'm still wondering if staff is better than wand (or vice versa) , the DPS difference is quite obvious. In diablo3 forum some even use 2 hand axe  blink.gif

and btw do you guys could stand and disintegrate in harder(inferno / hell) mode? I found myself running / kiting all the time when solo-ing of course sweat.gif
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2 hand weapon are usually stronger then 1 handed. Unless you found a good 1 hand weapon with a strong DPS. Wizard need Damage over Int so more damage more powerful your spells will be. But never neglect your INT of course (:

You can use any weapon as long it is strong biggrin.gif

But of course the wizard style is Wiz Hat + 1 hand staff + Source
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i just wonder how you guys get to 6K dps @ lvl 51.

I am at LVL 52 and my dps only at 3K with 6 square topaz.
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QUOTE(tyj82 @ May 21 2012, 11:17 PM)
i just wonder how you guys get to 6K dps @ lvl 51.

I am at LVL 52 and my dps only at 3K with 6 square topaz.
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Depending on your primary stat, an increment of 100 dps in a weapon will yield nearly double your damage.
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i can solo nightmare but Hell, damn how many times edi i die sad.gif


Added on May 21, 2012, 11:25 pmcombo are working but my armor kinda weak, need to up it a bit, 3 hits from Elites, there gone my health doh.gif

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Finally inferno..i hate hell.
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QUOTE(monza84 @ May 21 2012, 11:33 PM)
^bro, u coop or solo?
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question: meteor shower better or star pact better? smile.gif
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question: meteor shower better or star pact better? smile.gif
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Star pact. With 20 arcane passive - forgot the name. 3 Star pact drop vs 1 meteor drop (not worth it to get meteor)
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attack speed 2.2..tons of attacks speed modifier.. electrocute + that lightning thing rune and paralysis passive skill can permastun enemies lol
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attack speed 2.2..tons of attacks speed modifier.. electrocute + that lightning thing rune and paralysis passive skill can permastun enemies lol
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Question, did attack speed affect disintegrate ?
I dont use magic missile much. Not sure worth keeping the attack speed ring.
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my built with 2.5 attack speed. use blizzard with frozen solid rune to slowdown/frost enemy then use electrocute with lightning blast + passive stun skills and arcane orb with tap the source rune (deals high damage + save extra arcane power and you can dps while moving) pretty useful against most enemies biggrin.gif
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For Inferno you should all be using the highest DAMAGE weapon you can find. Not DPS, DAMAGE.

90% of your time will be spent running away and kiting while using Hydra, so weapon speed is irrelevant to any build.

Obvious things to have: Intelligence, Life Regeneration, Movement Speed

The last one is quite underrated and is arguably the most valuable of all stats in the game for Inferno.
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QUOTE(tyj82 @ May 22 2012, 05:31 AM)
Question, did attack speed affect disintegrate ?
I dont use magic missile much. Not sure worth keeping the attack speed ring.
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basically, atk spd affect ur base dmg, which affecting dmg for every spell
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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ May 22 2012, 08:22 AM)
For Inferno you should all be using the highest DAMAGE weapon you can find. Not DPS, DAMAGE.

90% of your time will be spent running away and kiting while using Hydra, so weapon speed is irrelevant to any build.

Obvious things to have: Intelligence, Life Regeneration, Movement Speed

The last one is quite underrated and is arguably the most valuable of all stats in the game for Inferno.
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Yup, agree on this, actually start in Hell, kiting is what Wiz do all the time (because we are paperlike laugh.gif), so get high damage weapon so that our hydra can actually damaging the mobs..movements speed is thumbup.gif, cast diamond while at it
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get both ring with each 12% atk spd increment, u will find out its more usefull thn int ring (increasing in dmg, not spd)

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Does the mobs level change due to our level?
Question: let say i am level 60 at nightmare. Item that probbaly gonna drop should be level 60? since i heard somewhere mobs level will always higher than us (mobs etimate level 61~63).

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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ May 22 2012, 08:22 AM)
For Inferno you should all be using the highest DAMAGE weapon you can find. Not DPS, DAMAGE.

90% of your time will be spent running away and kiting while using Hydra, so weapon speed is irrelevant to any build.

Obvious things to have: Intelligence, Life Regeneration, Movement Speed

The last one is quite underrated and is arguably the most valuable of all stats in the game for Inferno.
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basically this...im beginning to swap out hp/vit/armor for damage...and atk speed is useless

I'm using blizz + hydra...seems to work the best
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got no idea why everybody is saying atk spd is useless, damage calculation is including atk spd, and atk spd multiply ur dmg more thn int can do, just compare ur damage whenever u get a +10% atk spd ring with int ring
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^ they're saying atk speed is useless cos you wont have time to stand there and cast many spells. 1 hit mampus.
so take high damage items so taht your kiting spells are high damage (blizzaard & hydra) need for survivability.

stand there and shoot beam yes very high damage.
but 1 time kena smack by mob = GG.com
(im talking about the higher difficulty modes ya btw) normal and nightmare atk spd still very useful

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movement speed very important for kiting which is what you'll be doing starting nightmare onwards
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QUOTE(ragk @ May 22 2012, 12:15 PM)
got no idea why everybody is saying atk spd is useless, damage calculation is including atk spd, and atk spd multiply ur dmg more thn int can do, just compare ur damage whenever u get a +10% atk spd ring with int ring
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thats because in inferno, u will not have a chance to utilize that attack speed...99% of the time u will be shooting 1 time, run, repeat
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the best combo in inferno, frost hdyra + Blizzard with unreletting storm?
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Its not abt stand there and use normal atk, its abt ur spell dmg. juz try it out, atk spd ring giv u more dmg.
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QUOTE(ragk @ May 22 2012, 02:05 PM)
Its not abt stand there and use normal atk, its abt ur spell dmg. juz try it out, atk spd ring giv u more dmg.
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well true but if ur damage low also no use tongue.gif so both must set a balance.
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QUOTE(ragk @ May 22 2012, 02:05 PM)
Its not abt stand there and use normal atk, its abt ur spell dmg. juz try it out, atk spd ring giv u more dmg.
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Does ASPD affect hydra attack speed?
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QUOTE(Nels @ May 22 2012, 02:09 PM)
Does ASPD affect hydra attack speed?
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QUOTE(shojikun @ May 22 2012, 02:08 PM)
well true but if ur damage low also no use tongue.gif so both must set a balance.
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yeah, as long as u get appropriate armor, by right u will get many INT stats from ur armor, but atk spd stats so far i can find is only from weapon and ring, i juz abandon both my ring for atk spd, yet it do giving me more dmg

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increasing your own atk spd does not increase your hydra's damage, as its damage is based on your base weapon dmg and int
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QUOTE(Xenn @ May 22 2012, 02:17 PM)
increasing your own atk spd does not increase your hydra's damage, as its damage is based on your base weapon dmg and int
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i pretty sure it will, unless u confirm the damage display on our character menu will not affect our spell dmg (atk spd do affect ur dmg display on character menu)

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the damage displayed on your character board is your average dps, meaning around that dmg will be dealt if you attack for one second. on the other hand the damage you see you do is only affected by your base dmg and primary stats.
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from http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5150757589
--Spell Bonus--
Magic Missile then comes into effect, and deals damage specified it by its spell effect, listed as 110% under the skill. So it takes the damage listed in your inventory screen, and does 110%. If you did 100 damage, MM will hit for 110 damage.


well, juz literary explanation from this example, might still be wrong

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nope. you try unequip a skill slot, meaning that it will do 100% of your dmg. then you use magic missle = 110%, you will see what i mean
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hey guys, sometimes my archon last longer than a minute , how does it happen?
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QUOTE(guess19 @ May 22 2012, 02:42 PM)
hey guys, sometimes my archon last longer than a minute , how does it happen?
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hahaha i can see u didnt read the descriptions tongue.gif

each kill in archon mode will add 1 seconds to the activation time, thus prolonging the archon mode smile.gif love to use this when there is so many freaking monsters coming at me wave by wave.
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got any extra dmg if using 2hnd staff?
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disadvantage using 2 hand staff . cant get more stats tongue.gif
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QUOTE(achok @ May 22 2012, 02:54 PM)
got any extra dmg if using 2hnd staff?
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Whatever you see in the item description is your damage.

Thou they said with 2 handed hand weapon your aspd is slower thus your AP consume is lesser then 1 handed weapon.
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It makes no sense that att speed increase dmg, unless is in a ideal situation where mob stand there let u free hit or other character that can continue spam skill which we call DPS. Instead of looking at the info display by the game, i think the best way is to see the dmg done on mob itself. I dont think attack speed can do higher damage on mob in single hit compare to int.
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QUOTE(chitchat @ May 22 2012, 03:10 PM)
It makes no sense that att speed increase dmg, unless is in a ideal situation  where mob stand there let u free hit or other character that can continue spam skill which we call DPS. Instead of looking at the info display by the game, i think the best way is to see the dmg done on mob itself. I dont think attack speed can do higher damage on mob in single hit compare to int.
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i believe this mmore because is totally not logic if ur attack speed can increase damage... :\
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its not logical for atk speed to increase your dmg. if u mean faster atk speed let u do dmg to mobs faster then okay
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2 items, both same INT. equip the one with bonus attck speed. will see the damage increase. Hmmm...
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just put it in this way.
if you put 1 100 int ring, then the damage number that you actually do to a monster per hit = 100% more of base dmg.
if you put 1 10% atk spd ring, the damage number you do to a monster per hit is the same, but you atk 10% faster.

if you have high base dmg and low atk spd, atk spd adds more to dps and vice versa.
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QUOTE(ragk @ May 22 2012, 02:22 PM)
i pretty sure it will, unless u confirm the damage display on our character menu will not affect our spell dmg (atk spd do affect ur dmg display on character menu)
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wrong, DPS factors in attack speed and crits, but logically you cant use DPS as your actual damage because most of the time, especially in inferno mode, you wont be spending the entire second damaging.

QUOTE(Xenn @ May 22 2012, 03:31 PM)
just put it in this way.
if you put 1 100 int ring, then the damage number that you actually do to a monster per hit = 100% more of base dmg.
if you put 1 10% atk spd ring, the damage number you do to a monster per hit is the same, but you atk 10% faster.

if you have high base dmg and low atk spd, atk spd adds more to dps and vice versa.
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QUOTE(Xenn @ May 22 2012, 03:31 PM)
just put it in this way.
if you put 1 100 int ring, then the damage number that you actually do to a monster per hit = 100% more of base dmg.
if you put 1 10% atk spd ring, the damage number you do to a monster per hit is the same, but you atk 10% faster.

if you have high base dmg and low atk spd, atk spd adds more to dps and vice versa.
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ok understand now damage-PER-SECOND.. the faster u attack hence more d-per-second
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anyone try if atk spd also affects hydra's atk spd?
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lol .it doesnt affect hydra .
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ May 22 2012, 03:49 PM)
finally lvl 60. Act 4 Hell
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anyone try if atk spd also affects hydra's atk spd?
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nope...only affects how fast you cast the spell...which is pointless...same goes for other DoT spells (Blizzard, Poison etc). The 'tick' doesn't go faster
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QUOTE(dokidoki @ May 22 2012, 03:50 PM)
heard it's quite hard at 4.2~
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Wizard speed attack sound nice on paper but not good in practice therefore useless tongue.gif but tht is just what i see after experimented on it.... rather than that i should go for more DPS with Distergrate
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QUOTE(shojikun @ May 22 2012, 04:05 PM)
Wizard speed attack sound nice on paper but not good in practice therefore useless tongue.gif but tht is just what i see after experimented on it.... rather than that i should go for more DPS with Distergrate
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attack speed wont really be useful in hell... at least i havent found a build that needs attack speed. we'll need raw damage since we wont have time to stand and pew pew
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QUOTE(phoenixxx @ May 22 2012, 04:11 PM)
attack speed wont really be useful in hell... at least i havent found a build that needs attack speed. we'll need raw damage since we wont have time to stand and pew pew
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QUOTE(phoenixxx @ May 22 2012, 04:11 PM)
attack speed wont really be useful in hell... at least i havent found a build that needs attack speed. we'll need raw damage since we wont have time to stand and pew pew
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Meteor build may need AS, AS + Prodiogy gives u endless arcane and you can spam more meteors smile.gif

channeling spells don't want attack speed usually smile.gif
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so our dps would be higher according to our weapon's dps or our overall intel? i thought if we have higher intel, thus we'll have higher dps?
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QUOTE(Tulipness @ May 22 2012, 04:17 PM)
so our dps would be higher according to our weapon's dps or our overall intel? i thought if we have higher intel, thus we'll have higher dps?
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the DPS is base on both you're weapon Damage and Intel, as for weapon slot is best to put in Ruby to increase the damage more, other slot stack up INT. smile.gif
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QUOTE(shojikun @ May 22 2012, 04:20 PM)
the DPS is base on both you're weapon Damage and Intel, as for weapon slot is best to put in Ruby to increase the damage more, other slot stack up INT. smile.gif
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i just wanna make this clear for wiz's damage.. INT is the thing in % that adds to your damage right? so for eg. 1100dmg plus or times? int1000% = 11000/12100
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Better understanding of how Wizard damage is calculated is through the post that TS stated in first page. Its very clear.
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QUOTE(Nels @ May 22 2012, 04:43 PM)
Better understanding of how Wizard damage is calculated is through the post that TS stated in first page. Its very clear.
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QUOTE(Tulipness @ May 22 2012, 04:17 PM)
so our dps would be higher according to our weapon's dps or our overall intel? i thought if we have higher intel, thus we'll have higher dps?
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QUOTE(shojikun @ May 22 2012, 04:20 PM)
the DPS is base on both you're weapon Damage and Intel, as for weapon slot is best to put in Ruby to increase the damage more, other slot stack up INT. smile.gif
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DPS also counts crit dmg, crit chance, attack speed.

To fully understand DPS, DPS = Damage Per Second, how much damage will u dish out per second (average of course).
BUT this is calculated by assuming you are casting the spell nonstop. In a real situation, you wont have time to stand there and just shoot. You will probably be kiting the mobs.
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hey guys, for those of u struggling in hell difficulty, i've stumbled upon a build that works quite well (in fact tried it out before server went down) - i stopped dying and cleared some maps in act 2 where previously was almost impossible. even managed to clear those invuln minion mobs, etc.

try it out (will post in 1st page as well)

of coz u dont have to follow 100% (i made some slight modification to it as well)

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5149148693?page=1


Added on May 22, 2012, 4:58 pmand i just realized i also forgot to take the templar along. this build is amazing as far as i can tell for now (around 1 hr of testing)

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hey guys, for those of u struggling in hell difficulty, i've stumbled upon a build that works quite well (in fact tried it out before server went down) - i stopped dying and cleared some maps in act 2 where previously was almost impossible. even managed to clear those invuln minion mobs, etc.

try it out (will post in 1st page as well)

of coz u dont have to follow 100% (i made some slight modification to it as well)

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5149148693?page=1


Added on May 22, 2012, 4:58 pmand i just realized i also forgot to take the templar along. this build is amazing as far as i can tell for now (around 1 hr of testing)
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Exactly my build right now but I did it without using the signature spells + arcane recovery per attack. Its viable and I believe it will works even more wonder if I added the signature spell as well.

Thou I'm using it in Inferno mode it should be a lot better in Hell.
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Lvl60 wiz here, been in Inferno from yday. Generally I party up, still too slow alone unless I can get monies and gear >_<

For hell mode, my build was very similar to build above, minus primary skill (I don't use one). Active skills wise at least. Might hop over to the the Arcane dynamo though, haven't tested that yet hmm, thanks for the link


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Exactly my build right now but I did it without using the signature spells + arcane recovery per attack. Its viable and I believe it will works even more wonder if I added the signature spell as well.

Thou I'm using it in Inferno mode it should be a lot better in Hell.
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Hmm seems we're on similar track lol. You posted right before me.

If you don't have signature, what's your left click spell? (minus hydra,blizz,diamond,energy,magic missle). Having a tough time balancing that one out. Blizz doesn't do too much instantly unlike say, arcane orb. Had that instead of hydra but since you can't switch spells before bosses without losing buff, I changed. So still wondering how to dish out damage.
My passives are glass (lol), arcane presence (to offset armor) and the reduce cooldown thingie.

Can share share abit? =)

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eh same same la. laugh.gif not using signature spell also. finally, all my spells look cool. also, no more weird orb s*** laugh.gif sometimes feels like throwing out mass effect galaxy maps.
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ehh actually my left and right click is pretty messy tongue.gif

*note i priotize damage over anything. >_< sometimes I go crazy as to only have 6k Max HP even solo-ing in inferno. But that also depends on how fast I can react to magic attacks from mobs. Sometimes mobs does this crazy magic instantly and by the moment you realised it you already on the floor. - so I always bring my vit pair Armor + pants which give me additional 10k hp or more i forgot biggrin.gif

my left would be FrostHydra and right click would be blizzard + unreletting storm (more damage for blizzard - my kind of thing!)

1 - Energy Armor + Energy Tap (extra 20 arcane is definite welcome to me)
2 - Familiar + Sparkflint (like i said I priotize damage)
3 - Magic Weapon + Force Weapon (damage damage damage!)
4 - Diamond Skin + Crystal Shell ( without this runes Diamond Skin is pointless to me in inferno )

Passive - Cold Blooded (Reason for my Frost Hydra), Galvanizing Ward (the regen is much welcome), Astral Presence (again AP is like Wizardy life.)

So yeah After I use blizzard (increase damage by 20%) I use Hydra (to damage them) I then repeat this steps. Whenever the mobs reaching closer, I activate Diamond skin and walk through them - in the middle of that I drop a blizzard again and recast Hydra if necessary then went behind them. I repeat this back and forth until the mobs are all cleared.

Of course the trick here is to never get hit at all. Since I only have 6k hp lol. Even if we do get hit a little, there's this awesome regen every wiz know.

I wanted to try Venom hydra next. It sounds cool since it does dps overtime. How big is the pool anyway?
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QUOTE(Nels @ May 22 2012, 05:33 PM)
ehh actually my left and right click is pretty messy tongue.gif

*note i priotize damage over anything. >_< sometimes I go crazy as to only have 6k Max HP even solo-ing in inferno. But that also depends on how fast I can react to magic attacks from mobs. Sometimes mobs does this crazy magic instantly and by the moment you realised it you already on the floor. - so I always bring my vit pair Armor + pants which give me additional 10k hp or more i forgot biggrin.gif

my left would be FrostHydra and right click would be blizzard + unreletting storm (more damage for blizzard - my kind of thing!)

1 - Energy Armor + Energy Tap (extra 20 arcane is definite welcome to me)
2 - Familiar + Sparkflint (like i said I priotize damage)
3 - Magic Weapon + Force Weapon (damage damage damage!)
4 - Diamond Skin + Crystal Shell ( without this runes Diamond Skin is pointless to me in inferno )

Passive - Cold Blooded (Reason for my Frost Hydra), Galvanizing Ward (the regen is much welcome), Astral Presence (again AP is like Wizardy life.)

So yeah After I use blizzard (increase damage by 20%) I use Hydra (to damage them) I then repeat this steps. Whenever the mobs reaching closer, I activate Diamond skin and walk through them - in the middle of that I drop a blizzard again and recast Hydra if necessary then went behind them. I repeat this back and forth until the mobs are all cleared.

Of course the trick here is to never get hit at all. Since I only have 6k hp lol. Even if we do get hit a little, there's this awesome regen every wiz know.

I wanted to try Venom hydra next. It sounds cool since it does dps overtime. How big is the pool anyway?
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You should try Force Armor + Diamond Skin since your vit is so low, its really overpowered atm. With force armor, the maximum dmg you can receive from a single blow is 6000hp * 35% = 2100 HP. Thats good but here's the killer part; Diamond Skin only absorbs the damage AFTER the force amor reduces the damage. This means with Diamond Skin, you can take about 10 hits from mobs before Diamond Skin breaks.

10 free hits...thats really alot
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if u know, ray frost does more dmg than disintergrate
215% comapre to 155%

draw back, disintergrate can go trough enemies, ray frost cant

but i like using rayfrost + snow blast(boss killer)

longer use more dmg, i get around 15k plus per hit with rayfrost+snowblast after 1.5seconds biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Nels @ May 22 2012, 05:33 PM)
ehh actually my left and right click is pretty messy tongue.gif

*note i priotize damage over anything. >_< sometimes I go crazy as to only have 6k Max HP even solo-ing in inferno. But that also depends on how fast I can react to magic attacks from mobs. Sometimes mobs does this crazy magic instantly and by the moment you realised it you already on the floor. - so I always bring my vit pair Armor + pants which give me additional 10k hp or more i forgot biggrin.gif

my left would be FrostHydra and right click would be blizzard + unreletting storm (more damage for blizzard - my kind of thing!)

1 - Energy Armor + Energy Tap (extra 20 arcane is definite welcome to me)
2 - Familiar + Sparkflint (like i said I priotize damage)
3 - Magic Weapon + Force Weapon (damage damage damage!)
4 - Diamond Skin + Crystal Shell ( without this runes Diamond Skin is pointless to me in inferno )

Passive - Cold Blooded (Reason for my Frost Hydra), Galvanizing Ward (the regen is much welcome), Astral Presence (again AP is like Wizardy life.)

So yeah After I use blizzard (increase damage by 20%) I use Hydra (to damage them) I then repeat this steps. Whenever the mobs reaching closer, I activate Diamond skin and walk through them - in the middle of that I drop a blizzard again and recast Hydra if necessary then went behind them. I repeat this back and forth until the mobs are all cleared.

Of course the trick here is to never get hit at all. Since I only have 6k hp lol. Even if we do get hit a little, there's this awesome regen every wiz know.

I wanted to try Venom hydra next. It sounds cool since it does dps overtime. How big is the pool anyway?
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Holy cow 6k! Isn't that one hit KO at times from normal mobs? XD

K just recently change was:

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Hmm don't think it's very big, the pool tongue.gif. I also just started using, will observe again =)

Basically I've changed quite abit to include defenses. Since inferno ideally don't change build on the go, need some defenses esp for boss fight.

Hmm so wondering if disintegrate and rune is a good choice. Also looking to change blizz one abit, but I do have a 20 arcane reduction from armor. And I guess evocation is next on list. Does take off 2 seconds from diamond, but proly don't need it huh.
Wondering if I actually need a channel spell. Proly can change that to arcane orb + mana reduction since that's tap the source, since that's 175%. Hmmmm


Added on May 22, 2012, 5:56 pm
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You should try Force Armor + Diamond Skin since your vit is so low, its really overpowered atm. With force armor, the maximum dmg you can receive from a single blow is 6000hp * 35% = 2100 HP. Thats good but here's the killer part; Diamond Skin only absorbs the damage AFTER the force amor reduces the damage. This means with Diamond Skin, you can take about 10 hits from mobs before Diamond Skin breaks.

10 free hits...thats really alot
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Hmm never thought of that. Low HP helping make diamond skin more awesome. So y have I been looking for vit gear xD (which actually makes my diamond skin die faster I guess, lol)

QUOTE(Redcross @ May 22 2012, 05:50 PM)
if u know, ray frost does more dmg than disintergrate
215% comapre to 155%

draw back, disintergrate can go trough enemies, ray frost cant

but i like using rayfrost + snow blast(boss killer)

longer use more dmg, i get around 15k plus per hit with rayfrost+snowblast after 1.5seconds biggrin.gif
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Yeah, huge fan of rayfrost, but certain bosses can't really stand still and hit much, hard to get much out of it. Like butcher, floor keep lighting up x.x

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QUOTE(Szzz @ May 22 2012, 05:41 PM)
You should try Force Armor + Diamond Skin since your vit is so low, its really overpowered atm. With force armor, the maximum dmg you can receive from a single blow is 6000hp * 35% = 2100 HP. Thats good but here's the killer part; Diamond Skin only absorbs the damage AFTER the force amor reduces the damage. This means with Diamond Skin, you can take about 10 hits from mobs before Diamond Skin breaks.

10 free hits...thats really alot
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Hey! Thanks for the note up! I didn't know Force Armor will reduce the damage first over Diamond Skin. This is cool rclxm9.gif
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eh How did you manage to DPS with Disintegrate while slowing them with blizz and using Hydra at the same time? Wouldn't that overkill usage of AP?

I did use Disintegrate as my main last time but it consume to much AP for of course a crazy amount of damage. But in a long run, it gives me trouble. sad.gif

Also my reason for not using Glass (even though aim is damage) because of the decrease in armor and resistance. (i know i have sucky hp and it don't really help to have extra armor and resistance) but there is no point for me to use Energy Armor to increase my resistance and armor but my passive end up decreasing it. But yes the extra damage is very nice still.

Also cooldown don't really that matters anymore to me because Blizzard + Hydra has no CD at all - plus they slow and give me enough time to wait for Diamond Skin to finish CD.

But if your option to go for party overall your build is better because of the CD and extra damage. I will opt for your build over mine in party hehe.
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QUOTE(Nels @ May 22 2012, 06:09 PM)
Hey! Thanks for the note up! I didn't know Force Armor will reduce the damage first over Diamond Skin. This is cool  rclxm9.gif
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eh How did you manage to DPS with Disintegrate while slowing them with blizz and using Hydra at the same time? Wouldn't that overkill usage of AP?

I did use Disintegrate as my main last time but it consume to much AP for of course a crazy amount of damage. But in a long run, it gives me trouble. sad.gif

Also my reason for not using Glass (even though aim is damage) because of the decrease in armor and resistance. (i know i have sucky hp and it don't really help to have extra armor and resistance) but there is no point for me to use Energy Armor to increase my resistance and armor but my passive end up decreasing it. But yes the extra damage is very nice still.

Also cooldown don't really that matters anymore to me because Blizzard + Hydra has no CD at all - plus they slow and give me enough time to wait for Diamond Skin to finish CD.

But if your option to go for party overall your build is better because of the CD and extra damage. I will opt for your build over mine in party hehe.
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Yeap agreed it's giving me long run troubles. My solo was rayfrost + mana reduction ma. + astral that has a net use of 0 arcane >_<. So blizz to slow and DPS, hydra to help, and rayfrost to pick off individual targets without losing arcane. And remember my blizz is the reduced mana one tongue.gif

But yeah, biggest trouble for me now is figuring out the left click skill. Thinking I'm doing enough DPS, just that hard to notice in party. Proly have to replace it with the dreaded signature spells. Meh

Edit: Thinking of giving the shockpulse/piercing orb ago. Largest aoe dmg I can see that's free. Then proly replace Evocation with Arcane dynamo hmm.gif

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I have a question. I have a lv9 wizard. Problem is that there seem to be delay in whatever I do (lag?) .

I repeatedly cast Arcane Orb but nothing come out. Seconds later suddenly several arcane orb shoot out like machine gun.
I can Frost Nova and try to run away. The screen show I was running away but seconds later it shows I was still standing at the same spot with the frost nova only come out.

I scare if this is hell or inferno mode I will die already. So should I still continue with this wiz?
I don't seem to have this problem with my barb though.
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QUOTE(Dharcness @ May 22 2012, 09:17 PM)
I have a question. I have a lv9 wizard. Problem is that there seem to be delay in whatever I do (lag?) .

I repeatedly cast Arcane Orb but nothing come out. Seconds later suddenly several arcane orb shoot out like machine gun.
I can Frost Nova and try to run away. The screen show I was running away but seconds later it shows I was still standing at the same spot with the frost nova only come out.

I scare if this is hell or inferno mode I will die already. So should I still continue with this wiz?
I don't seem to have this problem with my barb though.
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Currently my build for Hell Act 2, solo in Act 1 no problem with this build (well, for me that is biggrin.gif) :

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wiza...;fbX!bbbZYY


Added on May 22, 2012, 10:11 pmSo, now i can change my Ice armor and pair it up with Diamond for more damage reduction rclxms.gif..thanks for the tips thumbup.gif

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My wiz is level 41 now, currently using this build. Plan to replace Prodigy with Temporal Flux once I get it to apply snares on mobs with Magic Missile and Disintegrate, then finish up with venom hydra rclxms.gif

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wiza...;cXf!baaabZ


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Seems like Venom Hydra is everyone fave drool.gif...i dunno but seems like venom does the most damage and long range too hmm.gif
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fianlly surving hell mode with diamonskin

used skills:

RayFrost + Cold blood
diamond skin + Chrystal Shell
Slow time + time warp(20% extra dmg)
Poison Hyrda
Force Weapon
Energy Armor + Energy Tap

So far surviving solo mode with this setup

glass cannon, galvanizing ward, astral presence is my passive setup
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guys how u determine or increase the damage of wizard? im on lvl 34, all rare gears but dps onli around 700, is that normal?

i feel that my dps is low... can someone advice a bit?

and about the gear , wat stat do i need? i knew int is important, other than that?
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QUOTE(arcule @ May 23 2012, 10:10 AM)
guys how u determine or increase the damage of wizard? im on lvl 34, all rare gears but dps onli around 700, is that normal?

i feel that my dps is low... can someone advice a bit?

and about the gear , wat stat do i need? i knew int is important, other than that?
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If you don't mind att speed, that helps too. But drains arcane faster if you use cancelling spells like ray of frost.

After the above only do you stack your int, then you should do fine. Think 700dps is fine @34, can't really remember
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me lvl 44 11k+ HP , armor 2k+ , DPS 1.5k+ is it ok for that lvl?
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me lvl 44 11k+ HP , armor 2k+ , DPS 1.5k+ is it ok for that lvl?
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Below inferno level, spend all your money to buy good weapon..
Other than that, find rings/amulets with +Damage .. for everything else just stack up int..
Also don't forget to use Glass Canon + Familiar + Magic Weapon skills.

I'm lvl 38 and my damage is around 2k now... Using 2h weapon with 101 dps.. int 905..
Still a lot of room for improvement, using a crappy belt and havnt put topaz on some sockets, still a work in progress i guess..

I did some weapon shopping yesterday.. Bought a lvl 42 staff that has 261 max damage.. I believe this will pretty much double my damage output..
Also, can't wait to level to lvl 50, because I got extremely lucky to buy a crossbow with 477 dps for only 2.5k gold lol, which if I could equip now, would add extra +6~7k to my current damage output.. My damage will be decent pretty soon! biggrin.gif

Having no problem solo-ing nightmare but has low survivablity during party play.. I only have vit 133.. some elite and bosses could 1 hit me and down to the ground I goes x_x Tonight I wanna experiment the Energy Armor + Diamond Skin combo.. but I heard they secretly nerfed it recently.. damn havnt even got the chance to try it out sad.gif Anyone can confirm on this?

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QUOTE(fizyboy @ May 23 2012, 12:06 PM)
Below inferno level, spend all your money to buy good weapon..
Other than that, find rings/amulets with +Damage .. for everything else just stack up int..
Also don't forget to use Glass Canon + Familiar + Magic Weapon skills.

I'm lvl 38 and my damage is around 2k now... Using 2h weapon with 101 dps.. int 905..
Still a lot of room for improvement, using a crappy belt and havnt put topaz on some sockets, still a work in progress i guess..

I did some weapon shopping yesterday.. Bought a lvl 42 staff that has 261 max damage..  I believe this will pretty much double my damage output..
Also, can't wait to level to lvl 50, because I got extremely lucky to buy a crossbow with 477 dps for only 2.5k gold lol, which if I could equip now, would add extra +6~7k to my current damage output.. My damage will be decent pretty soon! biggrin.gif

Having no problem solo-ing nightmare but has low survivablity during party play.. I only have vit 133.. some elite and bosses could 1 hit me and down to the ground I goes x_x Tonight I wanna experiment the Energy Armor + Diamond Skin combo.. but I heard they secretly nerfed it recently.. damn havnt even got the chance to try it out sad.gif Anyone can confirm on this?
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I was trying it solo Act II Inferno yesterday....it's seriously broken..I'm sure they'll nerf it

I had trouble killing a particular elite mob pack and kept dying with 15k hp...at that point i decided to take out my armor (shoulder and belt added vit) and fought with 6k hp. They died in 1 try laugh.gif
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QUOTE(fizyboy @ May 23 2012, 12:06 PM)
Below inferno level, spend all your money to buy good weapon..
Other than that, find rings/amulets with +Damage .. for everything else just stack up int..
Also don't forget to use Glass Canon + Familiar + Magic Weapon skills.

I'm lvl 38 and my damage is around 2k now... Using 2h weapon with 101 dps.. int 905..
Still a lot of room for improvement, using a crappy belt and havnt put topaz on some sockets, still a work in progress i guess..

I did some weapon shopping yesterday.. Bought a lvl 42 staff that has 261 max damage..  I believe this will pretty much double my damage output..
Also, can't wait to level to lvl 50, because I got extremely lucky to buy a crossbow with 477 dps for only 2.5k gold lol, which if I could equip now, would add extra +6~7k to my current damage output.. My damage will be decent pretty soon! biggrin.gif

Having no problem solo-ing nightmare but has low survivablity during party play.. I only have vit 133.. some elite and bosses could 1 hit me and down to the ground I goes x_x Tonight I wanna experiment the Energy Armor + Diamond Skin combo.. but I heard they secretly nerfed it recently.. damn havnt even got the chance to try it out sad.gif Anyone can confirm on this?
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whaooooooooooo so nice!!!

mine only 331.6 dps, and i am using it at level56 at hell act2!!
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ May 23 2012, 01:17 PM)
whaooooooooooo so nice!!!

mine only 331.6 dps, and i am using it at level56 at hell act2!!
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u really need to upgrade ur weapon :\

mine is at 1.8k damage hitting around 2k-2.3k
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QUOTE(shojikun @ May 23 2012, 01:29 PM)
u really need to upgrade ur weapon :\

mine is at 1.8k damage hitting around 2k-2.3k
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they r talking bout weapon dps, not their overall dmg.. lol
2k~2.3k, u can't even hope to survive hell
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QUOTE(gbwedward @ May 23 2012, 01:42 PM)
they r talking bout weapon dps, not their overall dmg.. lol
2k~2.3k, u can't even  hope to survive hell
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x_x i haven't reach hell yet, just nightmare rofl xD
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QUOTE(shojikun @ May 23 2012, 01:50 PM)
x_x i haven't reach hell yet, just nightmare rofl xD
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QUOTE(gbwedward @ May 23 2012, 01:42 PM)
they r talking bout weapon dps, not their overall dmg.. lol
2k~2.3k, u can't even  hope to survive hell
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x_x i haven't reach hell yet, just nightmare rofl xD
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nod nod lol.

damage now near 6k liao, can still do good damage in hell act1 imo, still glass lol
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QUOTE(fizyboy @ May 23 2012, 12:06 PM)
I did some weapon shopping yesterday.. Bought a lvl 42 staff that has 261 max damage..  I believe this will pretty much double my damage output..
Also, can't wait to level to lvl 50, because I got extremely lucky to buy a crossbow with 477 dps for only 2.5k gold lol, which if I could equip now, would add extra +6~7k to my current damage output.. My damage will be decent pretty soon! biggrin.gif
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477dps? blink.gif is it 2hd weopon?


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nod nod lol.

damage now near 6k liao, can still do good damage in hell act1 imo, still glass lol
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I sacrifice alot around 1500 dps for 5k of hp, 250 hp regen per second, 1000 armor.
If not i can reach 8k damage, but the sacrifice is worth, 6500 damage is not that bad, currently at hell act 2.
Some of the champion monster we cant use kite method, because they are keep throw bomb on us, but if stand beside the monster, the bomb wont hit us becoz theres a minimum range for that bomb. biggrin.gif i just standing beside the champion and spam my attack to kill it. (diamond skin + energy armor + blur + and using shield).

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QUOTE(JAYworm @ May 23 2012, 02:05 PM)
477dps?  blink.gif is it 2hd weopon?


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I sacrifice alot around 1500 dps for 5k of hp, 250 hp regen per second, 1000 armor.
If not i can reach 8k damage, but the sacrifice is worth, 6500 damage is not that bad, currently at hell act 2.
Some of the champion monster we cant use kite method, because they are keep throw bomb on us, but if stand beside the monster, the bomb wont hit us becoz theres a minimum range for that bomb.  biggrin.gif i just standing beside the champion and spam my attack to kill it. (diamond skin + energy armor + blur + and using shield).
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some of the mobs, i just dont care. die ma die lo, i can die and revive and continue kill u LOL

and yea, 6k++ damage seems still ok at hell act2. later than that tak tau d, haha
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walau if like that im consider weak ;_;

can post me u guys stats? ><
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with all the gold i haz only able to fork out at my level in act 2 nightmare around 3k dps.
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shojikun, what level are you? I might have some weapon to spare.

Guys what is your total damage in inferno? I find it hard still to kill those monkeys with 15.4k damage.

I can't find any good source so still stick with 2 handed. In away its better since my AP consume is not so hardcore.
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i only got 1.3k dps with sparkflint and force weapon only haha
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QUOTE(Nels @ May 23 2012, 03:51 PM)
shojikun, what level are you? I might have some weapon to spare.

Guys what is your total damage in inferno? I find it hard still to kill those monkeys with 15.4k damage.

I can't find any good source so still stick with 2 handed. In away its better since my AP consume is not so hardcore.
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im bored. anyone wants me to hunt weapon for them just state how much DPS 1 hand or 2 hand in here or pm me.
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QUOTE(Nels @ May 23 2012, 04:55 PM)
im bored. anyone wants me to hunt weapon for them just state how much DPS 1 hand or 2 hand in here or pm me.
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any nice weapon that's around level57? my weapon doing 300dps nia

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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ May 23 2012, 05:05 PM)
any nice weapon that's around level57? my weapon doing 300dps nia

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2handed or 1?

i mostly got 2handed for higher dps

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lol..played in nightmare suddenly got legendary .___. sadding. why must u drop in nightmare.

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eh guys, magic weapon got use or not one?

http://d3db.com/skill/i/magic-weapon

Imbue your weapon with magical energy, granting it 10% increased damage. Lasts 5 |4minute:minutes;.

Force Weapon
Increases the damage bonus of Magic Weapon to 15% damage, and gives up to a 2% chance to Knockback any enemies hit.

Does this increase my signature spells? or all spells? or only melee? hmm.gif ... I no see any enemies kena knockback before also hmm.gif
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int/magic dmg attribute in weapon already include in dps calculation or not?
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QUOTE(deodorant @ May 23 2012, 05:26 PM)
eh guys, magic weapon got use or not one?

http://d3db.com/skill/i/magic-weapon

Imbue your weapon with magical energy, granting it 10% increased damage. Lasts 5 |4minute:minutes;.

Force Weapon
Increases the damage bonus of Magic Weapon to 15% damage, and gives up to a 2% chance to Knockback any enemies hit.

Does this increase my signature spells? or all spells? or only melee? hmm.gif ... I no see any enemies kena knockback before also hmm.gif
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15% is ALOT biggrin.gif

i am using it,and yes, it increases all of your spell damage


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2handed or 1?

i mostly got 2handed for higher dps

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lol..played in nightmare suddenly got legendary .___. sadding. why must u drop in nightmare.

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hm...mine one 2handed, 331 damage, but got add +181 intelligence.

mine one shud be better rite?

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^ i think the legendary's +10% tapau your +181 int kaukau d
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QUOTE(Nels @ May 23 2012, 03:51 PM)
shojikun, what level are you? I might have some weapon to spare.

Guys what is your total damage in inferno? I find it hard still to kill those monkeys with 15.4k damage.

I can't find any good source so still stick with 2 handed. In away its better since my AP consume is not so hardcore.
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After magic weapon I sit on about 19-20k dps on inventory view.

Normal mobs are fine, champion packs and elites depend on their skill.

And getting sick of Blizz, they're planning on "hotfixes" to nerf/remove skills they consider overpowered, so things are rather uncertain. Meh
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ May 23 2012, 05:39 PM)
15% is ALOT biggrin.gif
i am using it,and yes, it increases all of your spell damage

thanks thanks, i think i was just confused that maybe it only increase melee damage or something lol
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QUOTE(joeong @ May 23 2012, 05:46 PM)
^ i think the legendary's +10% tapau your +181 int kaukau d
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damn just realize force armor is only available at lvl 54.. guess i wont b able to experiment tonight. anyone can confirm that the build is still working? if so, im going to collect life regen gears while im my on way to lvl 54 smile.gif

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QUOTE(fizyboy @ May 23 2012, 06:46 PM)
damn just realize force armor is only available at lvl 54.. guess i wont b able to experiment tonight. anyone can confirm that the build is still working? if so, im going to collect life regen gears while im my on way to lvl 54 smile.gif
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QUOTE(ellimist @ May 23 2012, 06:02 PM)
After magic weapon I sit on about 19-20k dps on inventory view.

Normal mobs are fine, champion packs and elites depend on their skill.

And getting sick of Blizz, they're planning on "hotfixes" to nerf/remove skills they consider overpowered, so things are rather uncertain. Meh
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eh mist your weapon 2handed or 1? if 1 what source are u using? sad.gif


How come chances on getting critical hit = increase your base damage?


Added on May 23, 2012, 7:57 pmthis is shiat. why is Energy Armor + Force Armor being nerf????????

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blizzard being nerf? damn.. i just start to feel awesome using it haha

nealry finish act 1 in nightmare. currently using a build WITHOUT any armor spell haha died only once against a vortex impaler group. no prob with others so far.. dps 1.4k with buff, HP at 5.5k
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this is fukin shyt. Force armor now is totally worthless. and the skill description is still the same. + diamond skin is messed up. WTF IS BLIZZARD DOING? dafuq with this kind of patch. no changelog also. Now my wizard is so messed up i can't do anything even with 30k health I get 1 hit k.o.
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worthless meh? it seems to be still working. later let me reach elite 1st. if get 1 shot means gone case d.
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nah i knw how to get it work already.

u need around 200-300 resist. with FA activate it works again.

well thats for me. cuz i was doing Leoric until the server restart I keep dieing 1 hit k.o from him no matter what build I use with FA on or off with 30k health or what still die.

Until I up my resistance.

Now I'm back to normal. gee. haih..
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QUOTE(Nels @ May 23 2012, 08:52 PM)
nah i knw how to get it work already.

u need around 200-300 resist. with FA activate it works again.

well thats for me. cuz i was doing Leoric until the server restart I keep dieing 1 hit k.o from him no matter what build I use with FA on or off with 30k health or what still die.

Until I up my resistance.

Now I'm back to normal. gee. haih..
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u r right...at least force armor works now...diamond skin calculates damage correctly now it seems

EDIT: scratch that...i think diamond skin still works the same...its just that force armor isnt working 100% of the time

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best way to try it its to fight boss.

I keep trying fighting leoric until he has to hit 4 times to kill me.

FA still works. U need a certain resist or health to activate it.
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Hi Fellow Wizard,

Need to know why my damage not going up anymore

Current weapon is dps 225.4 and over 1k int but 3.4K dmg seem to be very low to me

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QUOTE(tyj82 @ May 24 2012, 02:29 AM)
Hi Fellow Wizard,

Need to know why my damage not going up anymore

Current weapon is dps 225.4 and over 1k int but 3.4K dmg seem to be very low to me

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Glass cannon and magic weopon?
225 dps weopon is not bad but u still able to look for better 1.
And your str and dex looks alot hmm.gif , mine only 100+. Or u can choose those with attack speed increase equipment.

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yesterday they posted a blizzard hotfix changelog in the battlenet website.
but today i cant find d.
Monk healing mantra nerfed, demon hunter smoke scren nerfed,
wizard, force armor damage capped at 100% of max HP.
(i dont know what it means. means u will die on the 4th hit? im too low lvl to have tested force armor yet)

FYI its caled a HOTFIX (server side patches, so u dont download anything at all so u 90% of people dont know blizz patched it)
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QUOTE(joeong @ May 24 2012, 09:49 AM)
yesterday they posted a blizzard hotfix changelog in the battlenet website.
but today i cant find d.
Monk healing mantra nerfed, demon hunter smoke scren nerfed,
wizard, force armor damage capped at 100% of max HP.
(i dont know what it means. means u will die on the 4th hit? im too low lvl to have tested force armor yet)

FYI its caled a HOTFIX (server side patches, so u dont download anything at all so u 90% of people dont know blizz patched it)
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Here it is http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/5825330/Di...-5_23_2012#blog

Can anyone explain what is the "new" FORCE ARMOR mean ?
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Energy Armor
Skill Rune - Force Armor
Amount of damage absorbed from a single attack will now cap at 100% of a player’s maximum Life

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Before this, regardless of ur armor, it doesnt matter how much damage is inflicted to u, the max damage u can receive in 1 hit is 35% of ur HP and the rest will be nullified by the force armor.

So ppl have been exploiting this even in inferno act IV by having very low HP (4k) and very high life regen (3k per sec) so that their hp will always stay above half, adding mirror images or diamond skin to the formula will render them immortal.

After the hot fix, the force armor will only absorb damage up to 100% of ur HP per hit, so that means the above exploit no longer works.

Even though we got nerfed big time, I'm happy with it because VIT was actually bad for us, it doesnt make any sense at all. With this change, FA will still be useful in inferno, given that u have decent HP (30k) and armor.
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that means the new force armor can tank 1 hit?
old one can take 4 hits? correct? haha still too low lvl to test myself damn.
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in short. that nerf is to make more sense.. if we have that armor up.. we can tank more than barb or monks.
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QUOTE(fizyboy @ May 24 2012, 10:27 AM)
Energy Armor
Skill Rune - Force Armor
Amount of damage absorbed from a single attack will now cap at 100% of a player’s maximum Life

Before this, regardless of ur armor, it doesnt matter how much damage is inflicted to u, the max damage u can receive in 1 hit is 35% of ur HP and the rest will be nullified by the force armor.

So ppl have been exploiting this even in inferno act IV by having very low HP (4k) and very high life regen (3k per sec) so that their hp will always stay above half, adding mirror images or diamond skin to the formula will render them immortal.

After the hot fix, the force armor will only absorb damage up to 100% of ur HP per hit, so that means the above exploit no longer works.

Even though we got nerfed big time, I'm happy with it because VIT was actually bad for us, it doesnt make any sense at all. With this change, FA will still be useful in inferno, given that u have decent HP (30k) and armor.
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Ermm sorry i a bit noob, does this mean those with 4k HP build now if mob dmg is 5k (over 100% of max life) then is 1 hit KO ? but if mob dmg is only 4.5k then it stay the same right ?

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QUOTE(JAYworm @ May 24 2012, 04:51 AM)
Glass cannon and magic weopon?
225 dps weopon is not bad but u still able to look for better 1.
And your str and dex looks alot hmm.gif , mine only 100+. Or u can choose those with attack speed increase equipment.
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INT does increases damage but item that Add 'Damage' are better. Eg: Ring, Amulet, Source or Weapon. Mainly Weapon + Source is sufficient to boost your damage.

Also, Your weapon seems weak. Look for a better DPS weapon in Auction House.


Added on May 24, 2012, 11:17 am
QUOTE(joeong @ May 24 2012, 10:37 AM)
that means the new force armor can tank 1 hit?
old one can take 4 hits? correct? haha still too low lvl to test myself damn.
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We can still take 4 Hits if you have decent armor + vit.

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Force Armor capped at 100% means that if the mob is dealing damage more than your max hp, you will get one shot-ed. It stills works the same if mob cannot 1-hit ko you.
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QUOTE(Nels @ May 24 2012, 11:15 AM)
INT does increases damage but item that Add 'Damage' are better. Eg: Ring, Amulet, Source or Weapon. Mainly Weapon + Source is sufficient to boost your damage.

Also, Your weapon seems weak. Look for a better DPS weapon in Auction House.

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At which level ? Hell ? Inferno ? i used to think so too but now i change from +dmg (ring, amulet) to INT. Those +dmg (ring, amulet) i found at most +7-12 dmg+socket but i am now using 90 INT+50 VIT ring, 140 INT+70 VIT amulet (can get below 20k at AH) which give better dmg wor.


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Force Armor capped at 100% means that if the mob is dealing damage more than your max hp, you will get one shot-ed. It stills works the same if mob cannot 1-hit ko you.
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aaaargh yesterday spend hours grinding and farming in nightmare, finally got 1 legendary item --> witch doctor only vodoo mask. wtf man...

btw I follow u guys' advise and enable the elective mode, only realize i cant add more to action bar... just fully customizable only... sad.gif


Added on May 24, 2012, 11:57 amand guys... additional question: the wep damange does affect our spell? so If increase my wep damage via Force Weapon means will help for my spell as well? (wow I love the electronic balls shooting)

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QUOTE(chitchat @ May 24 2012, 11:51 AM)
At which level ? Hell ? Inferno ? i used to think so too but now i change from +dmg (ring, amulet) to INT. Those +dmg (ring, amulet) i found at most +7-12 dmg+socket but i am now using 90 INT+50 VIT ring, 140 INT+70 VIT amulet (can get below 20k at AH) which give better dmg wor.


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ah ic thx hehe
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lol, dmg isn't necessarily better than INT. INT is a modifier for dmg as well, if u have a 350dps weapon that adds 0 INT with a 300 dps weapon that has like 100 INT, the 300 DPS weapon has higher damage boost than the 350 dps weapon

QUOTE(Vorador @ May 24 2012, 11:56 AM)
aaaargh yesterday spend hours grinding and farming in nightmare, finally got 1 legendary item --> witch doctor only vodoo mask. wtf man...

btw I follow u guys' advise and enable the elective mode, only realize i cant add more to action bar... just fully customizable only... sad.gif


Added on May 24, 2012, 11:57 amand guys... additional question: the wep damange does affect our spell? so If increase my wep damage via Force Weapon means will help for my spell as well? (wow I love the electronic balls shooting)
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yes, skills dmg is based on weapon dmg. The higher ur weapon dmg, the higher ur skill dmg.

if u equip glass cannon, sparkflint, and force weapon... u get a boost of.. erm.. 40+% dmg.. iirc

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QUOTE(chitchat @ May 24 2012, 11:11 AM)
Ermm sorry i a bit noob, does this mean those with 4k HP build now if mob dmg is 5k (over 100% of max life) then is 1 hit KO ? but if mob dmg is only 4.5k then it stay the same right ?
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I believe this is how it works..

Case 1: Damage higher than your HP

HP: 4,000

1) Mob Hit for 9,999
Force Armor unable to help u, so you dieded 1 shoteded

Case 2: Damage lower than your HP

HP: 10,000
35% of HP: 3,500

1) Mob Hit for 9,999
Force Armor reduce the damage taken to 35% only, your new HP is 10,000 - 3,500 = 6,500
2) Mob Hit for 9,999
New HP 6,500 - 3,500 = 3,000
~Activate Diamond Skin ~ 21,000 extra HP for 6 seconds (Crystal Shell)
3) Mob Hit for 9,999
All absorbed by Diamond Skin
4) Mob Hit for 9,999
All absorbed by Diamond Skin
5) Mob Hit for 9,999
If you still getting hit for 5th time, you need to learn to kite lol

So its still useful given that you have decent VIT..

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QUOTE(fizyboy @ May 24 2012, 12:08 PM)
So its still useful given that you have decent VIT..

The tons of QQ for the nerf is because mobs hit for 6 digits in inferno, therefore you use or no use FA also will get one shot anyway.

i personally agree with the nerf because c'mon, 100k dmg hit can reduce to ~1.5k damage? then with diamond skin you can absorb 20 hits (i.e. 20million dmg) before dying?
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QUOTE(chitchat @ May 24 2012, 11:51 AM)
At which level ? Hell ? Inferno ? i used to think so too but now i change from +dmg (ring, amulet) to INT. Those +dmg (ring, amulet) i found at most +7-12 dmg+socket but i am now using 90 INT+50 VIT ring, 140 INT+70 VIT amulet (can get below 20k at AH) which give better dmg wor.


Added on May 24, 2012, 11:51 am
Try to look at Auction house for item that gives High DPS, + Damage (does not matter fire, electric or anything as long it adds damage) & Give additional int (prefer 100+ ints)

Yes INT is equally important but at max level you need to give priority to other stats as well such as Vit, Resistance or Armor. So pump your damage now, so that when you decrease your INT to sacrifice it for other stats it does not entirely reduce your damage.
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Damage absorbed cannot exceed the maximum health implies that the 35% absorbed cannot exceed your maximum health.

Assuming you have 3.5k health and the monster hits you for 10k damage. 35% of that 10k is absorbed by exceeds your health, you thus die. Basically instead of being better the lower your HP is, Force Armor now relates directly to your maximum health.


Of course this doesn't matter. Act IV Inferno mobs hit for 170k damage wink.gif

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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ May 24 2012, 01:07 PM)
Damage absorbed cannot exceed the maximum health implies that the 35% absorbed cannot exceed your maximum health.

Assuming you have 3.5k health and the monster hits you for 10k damage. 35% of that 10k is absorbed by exceeds your health, you thus die. Basically instead of being better the lower your HP is, Force Armor now relates directly to your maximum health.
Of course this doesn't matter. Act IV Inferno mobs hit for 170k damage wink.gif
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shocking.gif 170k dmg everybody will be one shotted, only char with high evasive stand a chance. So after the latest nerf still got ppl can clear Inferno ?
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shocking.gif 170k dmg everybody will be one shotted, only char with high evasive stand a chance. So after the latest nerf still got ppl can clear Inferno ?
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Wizard is still cool in inferno. Do take note INT give out resist. Force Armor is not the only rune for Energy Armor. We still have Prismatic Armor.

Also, Energy Armor gives ou 65% increase in armor, Prismatic Armor gives out 40% increase in Resistance, Blur reduce 30% melee damage. Not included Diamond Skin + Crystal Shell another 21707 HP shield for you.
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QUOTE(Nels @ May 24 2012, 02:25 PM)
Wizard is still cool in inferno. Do take note INT give out resist. Force Armor is not the only rune for Energy Armor. We still have Prismatic Armor.

Also, Energy Armor gives ou 65% increase in armor, Prismatic Armor gives out 40% increase in Resistance, Blur reduce 30% melee damage. Not included Diamond Skin + Crystal Shell another 21707 HP shield for you.
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oh? blur has increased melee dmg reduction in inferno mode?
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oh? blur has increased melee dmg reduction in inferno mode?
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oh? blur has increased melee dmg reduction in inferno mode?
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QUOTE(Nels @ May 23 2012, 07:45 PM)
eh mist your weapon 2handed or 1? if 1 what source are u using? sad.gif
How come chances on getting critical hit = increase your base damage?


Added on May 23, 2012, 7:57 pmthis is shiat. why is Energy Armor + Force Armor being nerf????????
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Yo,

Using 1 handed which gives about 630dps, and offhand source forgot some low number until 200 I think.

Finding it hard to balance, not enough slots for all the spells needed. Thanks to awesome nerfs >_>

What's your build currently?


QUOTE(ZeratoS @ May 24 2012, 01:07 PM)
Damage absorbed cannot exceed the maximum health implies that the 35% absorbed cannot exceed your maximum health.

Assuming you have 3.5k health and the monster hits you for 10k damage. 35% of that 10k is absorbed by exceeds your health, you thus die. Basically instead of being better the lower your HP is, Force Armor now relates directly to your maximum health.
Of course this doesn't matter. Act IV Inferno mobs hit for 170k damage wink.gif
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Boss you playing wiz? Got tips ka, pretty stuck now. Was doing the nonsense 4.7khp build, so now I'm rendered useless lol. How you survive act2 and above, apa strategy/build? biggrin.gif
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brain just dried from trying to understand the calculations..ok..

Try to tell me the simplest way..

What stat is most important for wizard?
Int? It is all item go for int means is good?
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just found a rare 2H sword that have 220dps and 13% attack speed. damn, my dps jumps from 2k+ to 4.7k now.. and this seems too much for act 3 nightmare. champion pack looks so easy haha lucky me!

for me, weapon and glove with int and +attack speed is the best.

other eq just try to get things with int and vit.

all slot put in topaz except slot for helm you put amethyst (because adding topaz to helm just increase magic finding while amethyst in helm slot increase HP)

slot for weapon put ruby (simply because to increase weapon damage. high weapon damage, your spells somehow hit harder)

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currently at level 32..HP is just around 1.8k..

All my items are major in int..

Damage per hit is about 90, crit at 150+/-

secondary hit at about 250

achon secondary hit at about 500..
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How much DPS should I have at the end of act 2 and act 3 NM? Was doing OK till I start finding Kulle's stuff. All of a sudden it became a need to have a tanky player in the same party else I'd be spending loads on item repair.
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QUOTE(yimingwuzere @ May 24 2012, 07:19 PM)
How much DPS should I have at the end of act 2 and act 3 NM? Was doing OK till I start finding Kulle's stuff. All of a sudden it became a need to have a tanky player in the same party else I'd be spending loads on item repair.
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last time i 1600 or so damage at nightmare, so hard lol
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before i found the sword i mention above, my dps is at 2k+, going into act 2 and 3 of nightmare. i only died when 3 champions pack came together at once. seems like impossible but this thing happen 2-3 times on me. so, this is the only time i died.

dps should not be the sole focus. that is why finding items with vit option in it is also crucial. as a wiz, you got several options. kill the enemy before they get near you (imba damage) or have balance on both damage and survivability and be able to take some beating. IMO, the latter seems more realistic and acvhievable.
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How much is Fiery Brimstone? (crafting material for legendary item)

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QUOTE(ellimist @ May 24 2012, 03:45 PM)
Yo,

Using 1 handed which gives about 630dps, and offhand source forgot some low number until 200 I think.

Finding it hard to balance, not enough slots for all the spells needed. Thanks to awesome nerfs >_>

What's your build currently?
Boss you playing wiz? Got tips ka, pretty stuck now. Was doing the nonsense 4.7khp build, so now I'm rendered useless lol. How you survive act2 and above, apa strategy/build? biggrin.gif
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Kite, kite and kite. I don't play a Wizard but the fundamentals don't change. All the monsters have telegraphed attacks so its easy to know what they'll do next. Lacuni stalkers will swing their hands back if they're about to lob a grenade or they'll arch back when they pounce.

Venom Hydra + Blizzard is the way to go as usual.

..or you can do this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY_QrJ7RTfM

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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ May 24 2012, 10:45 PM)
Kite, kite and kite. I don't play a Wizard but the fundamentals don't change. All the monsters have telegraphed attacks so its easy to know what they'll do next. Lacuni stalkers will swing their hands back if they're about to lob a grenade or they'll arch back when they pounce.

Venom Hydra + Blizzard is the way to go as usual.

..or you can do this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY_QrJ7RTfM
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Ah okie, kite huh. Thing is, wiz don't deal enough burst dmg in D3, so kiting is real inefficient =(

Yeah trying to do something like that. You hardcore farmer kan bro, any chance you got a 1 handed wand/dagger around 800dps for cheap? biggrin.gif
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i farm inferno butcher 6 times yesterday also no upgrade item for me sighz
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champion / elite packs give better loot..
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^D3 loot mechanics not done properlylah... how can elites be harder than bosses/give better loot lol.
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QUOTE(dynames07 @ May 24 2012, 07:08 PM)
just found a rare 2H sword that have 220dps and 13% attack speed. damn, my dps jumps from 2k+ to 4.7k now.. and this seems too much for act 3 nightmare. champion pack looks so easy haha lucky me!

for me, weapon and glove with int and +attack speed is the best.

other eq just try to get things with int and vit.

all slot put in topaz except slot for helm you put amethyst (because adding topaz to helm just increase magic finding while amethyst in helm slot increase HP)

slot for weapon put ruby (simply because to increase weapon damage. high weapon damage, your spells somehow hit harder)
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Magic find is more important as you lvl up. Especially when you start hitting lvl 60
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yah when you reach level 60, use topaz, before level 60, all the way i use ruby for +exp. (my demon hunter reached lvl 35 in 4 hours only with basic+exp gear)
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http://www.justin.tv/zytrug/b/319194200
I will go home and see this video. But cant see yet in office.
Help to review and tell me what's going on o.0
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QUOTE(Zelda85 @ May 25 2012, 12:13 PM)
http://www.justin.tv/zytrug/b/319194200
I will go home and see this video. But cant see yet in office.
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wtf!!!so imba...wizard battle diablo solo in inferno just in 3 mins++..can say perma freeze...SUPERBBB!!!!GODLIKE!!! thumbup.gif

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Tell me about it we can learn from it biggrin.gif


Added on May 25, 2012, 12:33 pmWe nee to use this and faster finish inferno befoer we got nerf

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QUOTE(necrs @ May 25 2012, 12:21 PM)
wtf!!!so imba...wizard battle diablo solo in inferno just in 3 mins++..can say perma freeze...SUPERBBB!!!!GODLIKE!!! thumbup.gif
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why that frost nova skill no cd?


Added on May 25, 2012, 2:10 pmahh....

Well, Critical Mass becomes totally broken when wizard stack their critical chance % up and with fast attack speed weapon, it makes Frost Nova instantly refreshed its cooldown, It' s like another energy armor exploite but much more badass than it.

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should be like diablo 2 that the boss should be imune to all effect.only kena damage but not freeze or burn or poison.
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^^^ has already been nerfed as of today.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5235398345
i use a similar build for melee wizard and its awesome.
i hope its not 100% nerfed tho. the critical mass build is damn fun and we can actually survive in hell mode without kiting

i also agree that instead of nerfing the skill they should buff the boss. retard blizz staff

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QUOTE(joeong @ May 25 2012, 02:17 PM)
^^^ has already been nerfed as of today.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5235398345
i use a similar build for melee wizard and its awesome.
i hope its not 100% nerfed tho. the critical mass build is damn fun and we can actually survive in hell mode without kiting

i also agree that instead of nerfing the skill they should buff the boss. retard blizz staff
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damn nerf liao no hope for wizzz.......They nerf everything tat was exploit and was shown by player. But till now they still didnt do anything to those hackers.
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QUOTE(Zelda85 @ May 25 2012, 02:28 PM)
damn nerf liao no hope for wizzz.......They nerf everything tat was exploit and was shown by player. But till now they still didnt do anything to those hackers.
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coz it's easier to do so @@
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understand that they're trying to balance the classes to get diablo3 ready for pvp.
but still buff the bosses onlylah or make it less power against other players or sumthing. nerfing all our bread and butter skills till only shit is left.
gglah wizards like this
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i agree that they shud buff up the boss, make it harder than those champions pack.

can't understand why diablo himself as prime evil can't jail a person properly, while those champions can jail all players at once

also, buff up boss doesn't means they must have the best loot. continue let champions have the best loot, but to be able to destroy the boss itself is an achievement
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They just have to put all de champion skill into diablo. As easy as that right? Imagine diablo having mirror image and casting the fire bomb all together.
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QUOTE(Zelda85 @ May 25 2012, 02:43 PM)
They just have to put all de champion skill into diablo. As easy as that right? Imagine diablo having mirror image and casting the fire bomb all together.

then it will be impossible. vortex + teleport + that arcane thing + fire + jail?!? you take away the cooldown on potions also dunno can survive or not biggrin.gif
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diablo is a crappy boss lah. 4 DH with the electric bola kautim.
diablo perma stun. doesnt matter if he hits you for 1000000 dmg.
the point is that they should make bosses immune to stun/freeze. and not nerf wizard skills to the floor. so what can permenant diamondskin 1 hit still mampus in inferno.
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QUOTE(deodorant @ May 25 2012, 03:18 PM)
then it will be impossible. vortex + teleport + that arcane thing + fire + jail?!? you take away the cooldown on potions also dunno can survive or not biggrin.gif
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how about add in shielding and invulnerable minion? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ May 25 2012, 03:54 PM)
how about add in shielding and invulnerable minion? biggrin.gif
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and mortar and freezing
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ May 25 2012, 03:54 PM)
how about add in shielding and invulnerable minion? biggrin.gif

well diablo got no minions mah biggrin.gif

... make him summon mini diablo's as minions? lol
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QUOTE(deodorant @ May 25 2012, 04:32 PM)
well diablo got no minions mah biggrin.gif

... make him summon mini diablo's as minions? lol
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QUOTE(deodorant @ May 25 2012, 04:32 PM)
well diablo got no minions mah biggrin.gif

... make him summon mini diablo's as minions? lol
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summon the other 6 as invulnerable minion. All of them have the same set of skill and health as they do in game. weeeeeeeee weeeeeeeee
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erk the perma frost still working. been using it fer hours.
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QUOTE(Nels @ May 25 2012, 05:28 PM)
erk the perma frost still working. been using it fer hours.
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It's upcoming fix. Once they nerf it, they will update nerf list

I geevup, invest gear one place nerf. Invest next build nerf. Screw it >_<
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QUOTE(Nels @ May 25 2012, 05:28 PM)
erk the perma frost still working. been using it fer hours.
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QUOTE(ellimist @ May 25 2012, 05:37 PM)
It's upcoming fix. Once they nerf it, they will update nerf list

I geevup, invest gear one place nerf. Invest next build nerf. Screw it >_<
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wat did u guys do with all the unwanted rare items? salvage? give away or sell?
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Is the blacksmith of any use in Inferno though?
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hi, just wondering how these skills work.
for example, im using energy armor with force armor rune. i got 24k hp atm and pretty sure elites in inferno would hit me 35% of my hp. so i put glass cannon as my passive skills. as you know glass cannon lower down 10% armor and resistance. my question is, does using glass cannon make me receive more damage than 35%? or just the same which is 35%?
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I presume Leoric video hasn't factored in the nerf to Critical Mass?
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QUOTE(Nels @ May 25 2012, 05:49 PM)
nah i didnt spend a gold on this build. i already have it in the first place. Finally a way to make use of my legendary shield tongue.gif
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Good to hear =)

I didn't spend too much, but still did spend lol. Most in weapon, but I guess as long I don't use chanelling spells, added att spd won't hurt too much.

But yeah, I believe they just nerfed it. They had warning about server reset, suddenly it stopped and think it stopped working for me. So yeah.

What build you gonna go for now dude?
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my wiz lv44 health7k damage3.26k int1050.. aspd 1.74

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QUOTE(ellimist @ May 25 2012, 08:33 PM)
Good to hear =)

I didn't spend too much, but still did spend lol. Most in weapon, but I guess as long I don't use chanelling spells, added att spd won't hurt too much.

But yeah, I believe they just nerfed it. They had warning about server reset, suddenly it stopped and think it stopped working for me. So yeah.

What build you gonna go for now dude?
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I don't know what build is viable now other then kitting and kitting...

I've tried Dodge build = phailed misereably. Tank build with resist over 500 hp 30k still pointless. Lightning build + paralysis + aspd = pointless.

Best build is still Vit + Resist + FA + Blizzard + Venom Hydra.

So to say I rest my Wizard starting today. Until I able to farm for a crazy set for my wiz or until blizzard is in good mood.

I'm going to make a Monk now.

So ya wizardy - annyeong!

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QUOTE(Nels @ May 26 2012, 02:39 AM)
I don't know what build is viable now other then kitting and kitting...

I've tried Dodge build = phailed misereably. Tank build with resist over 500 hp 30k still pointless. Lightning build + paralysis + aspd = pointless.

Best build is still Vit + Resist + FA + Blizzard + Venom Hydra.

So to say I rest my Wizard starting today. Until I able to farm for a crazy set for my wiz or until blizzard is in good mood.

I'm going to make a Monk now.

So ya wizardy - annyeong!

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i really don't know either...was playing with 10-12k hp with 1.1k hp regen per sec in Act 2...hard but at least I can make progress

up till Act 3...everything 1 hit me here 4k armor/200+ resist to all/28k hp
what build i play aso die in Act 3
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hmm a question here...i found a weapon that has this affix stats says

32% damage....

what does this means? if these weapon has a dps of 400 vs another weapon with 400dps but having around 15% aspd bonus which would be preferable?

cause i am not sure whether the affix says 32% dmg is already counted in the 400 dps or not..if yes then similiar weapon with 400 dps + 15%aspd would be a better choice rite?

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QUOTE(intothefantasy @ May 26 2012, 07:30 AM)
hmm a question here...i found a weapon that has this affix stats says

32% damage....

what does this means? if these weapon has a dps of 400 vs another weapon with 400dps but having around 15% aspd bonus which would be preferable?

cause i am not sure whether the affix says 32% dmg is already counted in the 400 dps or not..if yes then similiar weapon with 400 dps + 15%aspd would be a better choice rite?
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QUOTE(Nels @ May 26 2012, 02:39 AM)
I don't know what build is viable now other then kitting and kitting...

I've tried Dodge build = phailed misereably. Tank build with resist over 500 hp 30k still pointless. Lightning build + paralysis + aspd = pointless.

Best build is still Vit + Resist + FA + Blizzard + Venom Hydra.

So to say I rest my Wizard starting today. Until I able to farm for a crazy set for my wiz or until blizzard is in good mood.

I'm going to make a Monk now.

So ya wizardy - annyeong!

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Hmm 30khp 500 resist, I'm no where near that. So yea laugh.gif


QUOTE(intothefantasy @ May 26 2012, 07:30 AM)
hmm a question here...i found a weapon that has this affix stats says

32% damage....

what does this means? if these weapon has a dps of 400 vs another weapon with 400dps but having around 15% aspd bonus which would be preferable?

cause i am not sure whether the affix says 32% dmg is already counted in the 400 dps or not..if yes then similiar weapon with 400 dps + 15%aspd would be a better choice rite?
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Don't think my word as 100% truth, but I believe everything has been factored into the "dps" large number on top. If you compare 2 similar dps weapons, one with the affix and one without, you'll notice lower base dmg on the one with (the number right below the large number), coz it's compensated via the dmg increase %
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no wonder the price for those affix attributed with weapon damage % is so cheap at lvl 60...it should be counted into the big number if i am not mistaken since i get some info here and some other site as well...
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those who complain that wizard cant play at all in hell/inferno must be those who r forever alone? if u have two more company you wont have problem playing!
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i got question, is int very important for wizard ? it seem increasement by int can increase a lot attack

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i got question, is int very important for wizard ? it seem increasement by int can increase a lot attack
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sigh i cant solo inferno after the wiz nerf cry.gif

any wiz able to do solo inferno butcher or later act? please share your build and your stats, need advices now sad.gif
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QUOTE(law1777 @ May 26 2012, 10:43 AM)
those who complain that wizard cant play at all in hell/inferno must be those who r forever alone? if u have two more company you wont have problem playing!
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those who complain that wizard cant play at all in hell/inferno must be those who r forever alone? if u have two more company you wont have problem playing!
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i usually play with friends but only in act 1 inferno for farming....beyond that mobs become too strong....4 ppl party it bcomes too damn hard in act 3...1 white mob is like a boss
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QUOTE(love4ndpeace @ May 25 2012, 07:53 PM)
hi, just wondering how these skills work.
for example, im using energy armor with force armor rune. i got 24k hp atm and pretty sure elites in inferno would hit me 35% of my hp. so i put glass cannon as my passive skills. as you know glass cannon lower down 10% armor and resistance. my question is, does using glass cannon make me receive more damage than 35%? or just the same which is 35%?
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QUOTE(law1777 @ May 26 2012, 10:43 AM)
those who complain that wizard cant play at all in hell/inferno must be those who r forever alone? if u have two more company you wont have problem playing!
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Oh gee please. No one says that its not playable to play wizard in hell or inferno.

It is a waste of time to heavily kitting on every act just so you could clear Inferno. Plus, even if you do clear the inferno level what's next?

So yeah, the priotize here is to farm for good equips, sells it and = profit. There's no point in clearing inferno as a wizard now (now that its very heavily depending on kitting) just to 'brag about it'.

If you're so keen on kitting, might as well use a Demon hunter, since they have double your damage, with huge critical rate + better at kitting then wizard.

Coming from a guy who play in a party of 4 from Normal to Inferno that consist of a full tank Barbarian, a support monk, a carry demon hunter and full spec wizard.

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sigh i cant solo inferno after the wiz nerf cry.gif

any wiz able to do solo inferno butcher or later act? please share your build and your stats, need advices now sad.gif
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Practise your kitting. The key to playing Wizard in inferno is to never get a hit. Or, you could try going for VIT+Regeneration+INT build. This is better.

Also for me I no longer priotize Force Armor after the nerf. I would prefer to go for Prismatic as it give good bonuses especially it goes well with your High vit + armor.

QUOTE(Szzz @ May 26 2012, 06:34 AM)
i really don't know either...was playing with 10-12k hp with 1.1k hp regen per sec in Act 2...hard but at least I can make progress

up till Act 3...everything 1 hit me here 4k armor/200+ resist to all/28k hp
what build i play aso die in Act 3
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You need damage for Hell Act 3 my friend. What level are you? You can easily get 500 dps weapon at level 57+ or 800-1200dps weapon at level 60.

Just one arcane orb able to obliterate all the mobs. Even gold will die if you just use Diamond Armor (go for the first rune) and use arcane + signature constantly or just normal attack.

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So yeh just saying that..if your priotise is getting items over completing Inferno, put your wizard to rest now. That just me. But if you still want to go on and Solo wizard in inferno, go ahead. Its playable and it is definitely possible. smile.gif

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QUOTE(law1777 @ May 26 2012, 01:34 PM)
of course!! damage + int% + skill% = total damage output!!
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this morning, slayed Diablo at Nightmare... very hard... my wizard build is very weak...
1.3k armor, 1k attack and 20k life.... retried a lot of time... finally have to use elective mode to play...

diamond skin (15k), ice nova or smth, force wave, chill aura and ice hydra(my right click)...

Very long.. basically my hydra did the job.. i just walk walk walk to avoid his bone prison...
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QUOTE(ukiya21 @ May 26 2012, 05:49 PM)
this morning, slayed Diablo at Nightmare... very hard... my wizard build is very weak...
1.3k armor, 1k attack and 20k life.... retried a lot of time... finally have to use elective mode to play...

diamond skin (15k), ice nova or smth, force wave, chill aura and ice hydra(my right click)...

Very long.. basically my hydra did the job.. i just walk walk walk to avoid his bone prison...
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whao! 1k attack kill diablo?!  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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lol... all the skills i choose is more to disable him and let my hydra attack..
Of course i got shoot him with my magic missile.. but i think will be insignificant though.. lol

And it took a long long time.. haha
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lol... all the skills i choose is more to disable him and let my hydra attack..
Of course i got shoot him with my magic missile.. but i think will be insignificant though.. lol

And it took a long long time.. haha
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QUOTE(HoNeYdEwBoY @ May 26 2012, 04:03 PM)
now my int only 1.4k , but my dps 16k ._. .. like not equal one zz
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omg damage 16k!! what level r u now? so envious im only 5.3k level48
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Anyone wanna buy my 450 DPS 2H Staff for lvl 48? =)

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omg damage 16k!! what level r u now? so envious im only 5.3k level48
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Lvl 60 ._.

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Anyone wanna buy my 450 DPS 2H Staff for lvl 48? =)
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what the.......@@

fizyboy in wherE? nightmare? or hell? if both places he gona walk over like a bawse
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Just started Act 2 Hell.. its easy to kill mobs but easy to die too haha >_>
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Anyone wanna buy my 450 DPS 2H Staff for lvl 48? =)
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QUOTE(Nels @ May 26 2012, 03:21 PM)
You need damage for Hell Act 3 my friend. What level are you? You can easily get 500 dps weapon at level 57+ or 800-1200dps weapon at level 60.

Just one arcane orb able to obliterate all the mobs. Even gold will die if you just use Diamond Armor (go for the first rune) and use arcane + signature constantly or just normal attack.

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So yeh just saying that..if your priotise is getting items over completing Inferno, put your wizard to rest now. That just me. But if you still want to go on and Solo wizard in inferno, go ahead. Its playable and it is definitely possible.  smile.gif
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i talking about act 3 inferno tongue.gif
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Lol sorry you guys are just a few min too late, reserved the staff to someone for 100k..
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Lol sorry you guys are just a few min too late, reserved the staff to someone for 100k..
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Lol sorry you guys are just a few min too late, reserved the staff to someone for 100k..

100k seems low for that staff hmm.gif ...
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How much would a lvl46 214 armor chest with +129 vit, +13xp per kill and 3 sockets cost in the AH? Going to sell this for other gear for Hell
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100k seems low for that staff hmm.gif ...
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hmm any tips in surviving as a wiz in inferno? i usually play with a monk tanker but then i feel is quite hard for me to take some damage...sometimes i can get 1 shotted...which defensive stat is recommended in this case?

element resist? physical resist?

energy armor with which rune is preferable?
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wah, i thought 3 teleporting vamp-corrupted angels with meteor was hard enough in act 4, but that freaking regenerating monster in leoric's tomb act 1 in hell is impossible!! rclxub.gif


after my friend's barbarian died very early during diablo boss nightmare, wah it took me like 30 mins to kill him just because i forgot to pick meteor over slow rclxub.gif both of us were lvl 50.


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any tips?

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QUOTE(intothefantasy @ May 27 2012, 11:13 PM)
hmm any tips in surviving as a wiz in inferno? i usually play with a monk tanker but then i feel is quite hard for me to take some damage...sometimes i can get 1 shotted...which defensive stat is recommended in this case?

element resist? physical resist?

energy armor with which rune is preferable?
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every resist is a must..technically im still stuck at act 3...can hardly kill any elites here..have about 350 resist to all
i cant seem to swap out force armor too...without it ill be 1-2hitted
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C-Fu, get some critical gear then try out my build.
(with crit items my crit is about 20% without pinpoint barrier)

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wiza...;agb!bYZYbZ

(works better if you're surrounded by mobs/fight large group)
cast diamond skin / spam wicked wind / spam freeze+diamondskin+ spectral blade when no mana)

its damn fun to play. but in hell mode not as effective!
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this 1 can sell how much??
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now suffering in act 2 inferno, i see elite snakies, can log off sin.....
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QUOTE(joeong @ May 27 2012, 11:59 PM)
C-Fu, get some critical gear then try out my build.
(with crit items my crit is about 20% without pinpoint barrier)

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wiza...;agb!bYZYbZ

(works better if you're surrounded by mobs/fight large group)
cast diamond skin / spam wicked wind / spam freeze+diamondskin+ spectral blade when no mana)

its damn fun to play. but in hell mode not as effective!
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i just tried the build that TS posted, and IT IS AWESOME! I levelled up from level 52-54 in one hour in Hell act 1. And I defeated Skeleton King, full 90-100% health all the way without fail (but a bit slow lah, but who cares)

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Hi, i just got to level 40 yesterday and my stat currently is 8k hp and 1k damage. My int is around 1k plus. Currently in nightmare. Any suggestion to improve my build ? Thanks. Btw do you guys use disintegrate ? I found it to be a useful spell. Lolz. . tongue.gif
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Weapon. Anyone wanna offer good amounts for it? =p

Lol not particularly looking to sell now to be honest, but of course if something awesome comes along I wouldn't turn it down tongue.gif


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im using a wizard.
Lets say i use a weapon (does fire damage)
then i use a signature spell (lightning) does this mean my weapons elemental wont be counted at all?

also for lifesteal in later stages of the game (hell/inferno) why does my super high dps gimme close to no life steal! isnt it supposed to be 2$ of my dps?

also the 8% chance to cause paralysis with electric damage (i never see proc ever) isit a bugged skill?

so hard to make builds cos their skill description not working properly sad.gif
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What is the best rune for disintegrate? Currently level 40 in nightmare mode. tongue.gif
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What is the best rune for disintegrate? Currently level 40 in nightmare mode. tongue.gif
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HI guys,

Just want to ask, if you're looking at Rings, are those with +dmg ones better or those who +int ones are better?

Building a DPS crowd control wiz. at level 35 now only.

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I see that those with +dmg always offer a higher DPS rating than those with +int ones.
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the one that explode and do 395% damage to nearby enemies

i use it all the way to hell act 4 lol
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the one that explode and do 395% damage to nearby enemies

i use it all the way to hell act 4 lol
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meh, disintegrate is fun only for a short while
loved blizzard + hydra + piercing orb combo
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meh, disintegrate is fun only for a short while
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for hell what defensive skills u all use?
diamondskin? or illusion?
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Weapon. Anyone wanna offer good amounts for it? =p

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for hell what defensive skills u all use?
diamondskin? or illusion?
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diamond skin
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:< my setup is Teleport, Blizzard, Venom Hydra, Energy Force Armor

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I'm looking for a 950++ dps 1 handed weapon (sword, axe preferably). PM me if you have one extra (smile.gif ) lying around in your stash and how much u want for it.

So far I'm a lvl 60 Wiz in inferno.

I need to pump up the VIT and INT.




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Level 60 28k hp, 23k dps, 6000 armor, resistants all 350+, regen 700 per sec, life steal 600 per hit.
Almost all minion in inferno act2 can kill me in 3-5 hit. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(JAYworm @ May 28 2012, 02:40 PM)
Level 60 28k hp, 23k dps, 6000 armor, resistants all 350+, regen 700 per sec, life steal 600 per hit.
Almost all minion in inferno act2 can kill me in 3-5 hit.  sweat.gif
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that is good isn't it? tongue.gif to be able to survive even 1 hit is more than better man.
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i see there are lot of hydra fans here..which hydra is the best ? currently using venom hydra..

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QUOTE(deathTh3Cannon @ May 28 2012, 04:28 PM)
i see there are lot of hydra fans here..which hydra is the best ? currently using venom hydra..
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IMHO, venom hydra in valley or small place, lightning for large area. not yet get magma hydra yet...
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If you are having a tough time on Hell, make your life easy with these new weapons nao! biggrin.gif

Lvl 50 2H XBOW with 450dps
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selling for 85k~

Lvl 52 2H Sword with 665dps
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selling for 250k~
(this is the weapon that I use to get the damage on my sig)

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fizy boy, book for the crossbow, will trade with you later tonite, 85k deal smile.gif
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Ok jenniferjen, noted.. add me up! smile.gif
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Ok jenniferjen, noted.. add me up! smile.gif
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Any wizard level 35-49 looking for 2 hand weapon? Have some for sale..
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QUOTE(arcule @ May 28 2012, 05:21 PM)
Any wizard level 35-49 looking for 2 hand weapon? Have some for sale..
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wats ur goodies? brows.gif
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jus sold one...not superb weapon, but more than enuff for lvling on that level area.
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Fellow wizards, i just wanna ask a question whether this source worth much or not. Always saw people sell for 1mil but scare that's overprice pulak.

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post May 28 2012, 09:11 PM

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overprice
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So how much normally for it?
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can anyone tell me which stats is a good stats for weapon ar

seeing so many weapon sell so mahal, which to choose leh?

high damage of coz is a must, and int and vit

others? what else to look for @@

shud i slowly farm until got 2mil or 5mil, then get something like 1.2k damage, or straightly get something 9xx damage for under 1mil? :s
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hi, selling some stuffs for wizard here!
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if ur interested with any of these equips add my battle tag chaos#11864 (please dont forget to mention you're from LYN!)

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Selling 2hand mace 980 plus damage pm me ur price if interested ty
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QUOTE(ellimist @ May 28 2012, 11:32 AM)
Weapon. Anyone wanna offer good amounts for it? =p

Lol not particularly looking to sell now to be honest, but of course if something awesome comes along I wouldn't turn it down tongue.gif
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Whoa lol
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just got a 450dps legendary 2hand staff for lvl50.. 50k only..lolx can start hell mode with 5k dps d... hehe
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^ grats nice find
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guys, level60 wizards, u guys using 2hand weapon or 1hand + source?
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ May 29 2012, 12:21 PM)
guys, level60 wizards, u guys using 2hand weapon or 1hand + source?
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i think it's depend.
i would like to go for 1 hand if i can find higher dps than 2 hand
coz off hand can use shield biggrin.gif
well that's just me
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I am using spear + sheild also biggrin.gif

Spear + INT
Shield also + INT

double win


Added on May 29, 2012, 12:51 pmI am lvl 45 wizard by the way, slow level-er biggrin.gif
played 28 hours only so far sweat.gif

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heard official forums arguing ray of frost or disintegrate better.. any opinions from pros here ?
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level 60 wiz reporting ! still stuck in act1 inferno tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Dinodino123 @ May 29 2012, 12:05 AM)
Selling 2hand mace 980 plus damage pm me ur price if interested ty
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What is the stats?
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plus 38% damage and 200-400+ damage i think
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QUOTE(deathTh3Cannon @ May 29 2012, 01:30 PM)
heard official forums arguing ray of frost or disintegrate better.. any opinions from pros here ?
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RoF for single target, disintegrate for mobs, but i prefer celestial arcane for mobs.
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QUOTE(kanethesun @ May 29 2012, 12:50 PM)
I am using spear + sheild also biggrin.gif

Spear + INT
Shield also + INT

double win


Added on May 29, 2012, 12:51 pmI am lvl 45 wizard by the way, slow level-er biggrin.gif
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DPS is the main thing u should look for. while INT only give u a little bit of dps+damage%

10k dps + 1000(%) INT is better than 7k dps + 1400(%) INT nod.gif nod.gif


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heard official forums arguing ray of frost or disintegrate better.. any opinions from pros here ?
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rof clear 1 mob faster n SLOW the mob. disintergrate clear mob slower but all mob die together. if u have very high dps i think disintergrate is a better option so that u can clear those mobs in one shot

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Just tumpang ask ask ... is the DPS that count or the 'damage' that count

say for example i have a weapon that have almost same DPS but ...
- high ASPD with slightly lower damage
- low ASPD but high damage

which one will be better if for hydra or arcane orb?

@_@ im quite confuse.
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QUOTE(deathTh3Cannon @ May 29 2012, 01:30 PM)
heard official forums arguing ray of frost or disintegrate better.. any opinions from pros here ?
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disintegrate with volatility is superb on thrash.
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QUOTE(hhoong @ May 29 2012, 04:53 PM)
Just tumpang ask ask ... is the DPS that count or the 'damage' that count

say for example i have a weapon that have almost same DPS but ...
- high ASPD with slightly lower damage
- low ASPD but high damage

which one will be better if for hydra or arcane orb?

@_@ im quite confuse.
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low aspd but high dmg is mostly better for all of wizard skills.. even for channeling.spells high attk speed will burn your mana faster.
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QUOTE(wlcling @ May 29 2012, 01:17 AM)
just got a 450dps legendary 2hand staff for lvl50.. 50k only..lolx can start hell mode with 5k dps d... hehe
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I found a 600+ dps blue for lvl 47 smile.gif

-13 level requirement FTW!


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I found a 600+ dps blue for lvl 47 smile.gif

-13 level requirement FTW!
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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ May 29 2012, 07:09 PM)
I found a 600+ dps blue for lvl 47 smile.gif

-13 level requirement FTW!
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That's really a very good find biggrin.gif 2handed?
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QUOTE(Nels @ May 29 2012, 07:25 PM)
That's really a very good find biggrin.gif 2handed?
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Yea two handed. If 1handed the item would be godly for the lvl..

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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ May 29 2012, 07:26 PM)
Yea two handed. If 1handed the item would be godly for the lvl..
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well, i've seen 1.1k dps on 1hd? but only obtainable in inferno mode

QUOTE(wlcling @ May 29 2012, 07:06 PM)
low aspd but high dmg is mostly better for all of wizard skills.. even for channeling.spells high attk speed will burn your mana faster.
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higher aspd also means i can recharge my arcane faster, meaning i can spam earlier

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Currently on a 2H wand, for the higher DPS. Does take away my resist + health regen set buff which I sorely miss.

And rather not used to the slow casting animation, seem to be able to cast less between kites. Hmm still can't figure which way to go, 2H or 1H/OH. Nels what weapon you on currently?
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QUOTE(gbwedward @ May 29 2012, 07:39 PM)
well, i've seen 1.1k dps on 1hd? but only obtainable in inferno mode
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Yea, but it's for level 47. Imagine taking that and you can basically cruise through Nightmare like a boss.

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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ May 29 2012, 07:09 PM)
I found a 600+ dps blue for lvl 47 smile.gif

-13 level requirement FTW!

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congrats! if u wanna sell it later plz pm me ya
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Guys, how about this build for kitting in inferno? Please give some comments.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wiza...;UWa!abYacZ
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QUOTE(JAYworm @ May 29 2012, 08:42 PM)
Guys, how about this build for kitting in inferno? Please give some comments.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wiza...;UWa!abYacZ
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i dont know how...but without diamond skin, i can't even survive in act 2 inferno. that also enable me to take only 3 hits from elites.

IF the elite have the pre-fix "fast". i can relog already, no matter how many valor i got, unless it is kiteable away from path.

i really wonder how ppl do it.
28k hp, with 28k dps, btw.

Chii !!
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QUOTE(JAYworm @ May 29 2012, 08:42 PM)
Guys, how about this build for kitting in inferno? Please give some comments.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wiza...;UWa!abYacZ
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Well, since you gonna kite anyway, just use the Blizzard as primary and add Familiar + Sparkflint to your skillset. And I would advise using Force Armor (even though it has been nerfed).
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question in act 2 inferno....how in inferno ?? u kill those writhing snake elites? ??
they are invis when moving and if fast......??

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