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 Supplementation discussion and review thread V2, Give your opinion!

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zaxxshoxx
post Aug 1 2012, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(alien9 @ Aug 1 2012, 10:32 AM)
does creatine have immediate effect? no right?
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no immediate effect. not like caffeine
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post Aug 1 2012, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(swks26 @ Aug 1 2012, 07:54 AM)
Both pre-workout and intra-workout are not necessary.

My necessary list would be:
Protein
Creatine
Multivitamin
Fish oil

Others would be bonus.
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oh the only check is the protein.
is it necessary to take the creatine? im not overweight but kinda skinny fat and it only focusing on the stomach area which hide the other peck. but it was oblivious and no one notice that when im wearing a shirt and like hey dude u should eat more ya look like an addict now compare to the last few year.

my goal is to be fit as wolverine.
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post Aug 1 2012, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(alien9 @ Aug 1 2012, 10:32 AM)
does creatine have immediate effect? no right?
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Before this I also thought that you must take your creatine before workout. After more reading, turns out that the time you take it is not as important as how you take it. Once your body is saturated with creatine, you simply need 5-10 grams per day to maintain the saturation.

Conclusion: Take it with a sweet drink any time of the say. once/ twice a day up to you.

I take it in the morning with my nescafe.
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post Aug 1 2012, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(XlimShady @ Aug 1 2012, 12:34 PM)
Before this I also thought that you must take your creatine before workout. After more reading, turns out that the time you take it is not as important as how you take it. Once your body is saturated with creatine, you simply need 5-10 grams per day to maintain the saturation.

Conclusion: Take it with a sweet drink any time of the say. once/ twice a day up to you.

I take it in the morning with my nescafe.
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I know. Creatine doesn't have any immediate effect. That is why I asked zaxxshoxx why he took creatine for pre-w/o.
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post Aug 1 2012, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(alien9 @ Aug 1 2012, 12:38 PM)
I know. Creatine doesn't have any immediate effect. That is why I asked zaxxshoxx  why he took creatine for pre-w/o.
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personal preferences smile.gif usually mixed it with glucose 45min before WO

QUOTE(hexion @ Aug 1 2012, 12:01 PM)
oh the only check is the protein.
is it necessary to take the creatine? im not overweight but kinda skinny fat and it only focusing on the stomach area which hide the other peck. but it was oblivious and no one notice that when im wearing a shirt and like hey dude u should eat more ya look like an addict now compare to the last few year.

my goal is to be fit as wolverine.
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creatine = volumize muscle cells
fish oil = good fat
multivitamins = daily needs

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post Aug 1 2012, 01:38 PM

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Depends what creatine you're using too.

If you're using creatine like CL Green Magnitude or CL Green Bulge, then it has extra ingredients to help boost your workout.

If you're using creatine mono, then any time of the day should be ok.
Just remember to keep yourself hydrated.

When you're saturated, you can actually just stick with 2.5g of creatine, especially when you're on a real budget. But 2.5g-5g a day should be fine.
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QUOTE(swks26 @ Aug 1 2012, 01:38 PM)
Depends what creatine you're using too.

If you're using creatine like CL Green Magnitude or CL Green Bulge, then it has extra ingredients to help boost your workout.

If you're using creatine mono, then any time of the day should be ok.
Just remember to keep yourself hydrated.

When you're saturated, you can actually just stick with 2.5g of creatine, especially when you're on a real budget. But 2.5g-5g a day should be fine.
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What is the indicator of being saturated?
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post Aug 1 2012, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(alien9 @ Aug 1 2012, 01:39 PM)
What is the indicator of being saturated?
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When you've got increased water weight, which you could probably visibly see.
Increase in strength and endurance. All possibly over 2-3 weeks?

Don't take my words as gospel though lol.
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Aug 1 2012, 01:39 PM)
What is the indicator of being saturated?
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When you can hold ur pee longer, even though you've drank like few gallons of water a day? LOL.
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Well.... honestly I read a lot of negative comments(bad for men's health) from old topics. That's why I worry for having creatine. Right now I having

Protein- ON Platinum hydrowhey(daily)
Mass gainer- Amplified Mass XXX(with creatine)(Take Two-three a week when workout with supporter/friend [below 3g])
Multivitamins (daily)

*additional planning*
Pre-workout(want to boost up my stamina&strength )

P/S: I'm still new in bodybuiding and supplementation
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QUOTE(D.K.Prince @ Aug 1 2012, 11:15 PM)
Well.... honestly I read a lot of negative comments(bad for men's health) from old topics. That's why I worry for having creatine. Right now I having

Protein- ON Platinum hydrowhey(daily)
Mass gainer- Amplified Mass XXX(with creatine)(Take Two-three a week when workout with supporter/friend [below 3g])
Multivitamins (daily)

*additional planning*
Pre-workout(want to boost up my stamina&strength )

P/S: I'm still new in bodybuiding and supplementation
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mind you post some of the link that you've read about negative effects of creatine?
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post Aug 2 2012, 12:52 AM

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Creatine is harmless. Don't worry.
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post Aug 2 2012, 05:22 AM

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current supplement regiment:

morning:
omega 3,6,9 from fish oil
multivitamins
grape seed extract

post workout:
2 scoops ON whey

night (after last meal or before bed):
grape seed extract
zinc
magnesium
vit B6 (only at start and end day of training week)
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post Aug 2 2012, 09:21 AM

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Anyone using ronnie coleman supplement? Any good review?

Hope to have feedback from you guys.

Plan to get one soon smile.gif
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post Aug 2 2012, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(whatdamn @ Aug 2 2012, 05:22 AM)
current supplement regiment:

morning:
omega 3,6,9 from fish oil
multivitamins
grape seed extract

post workout:
2 scoops ON whey

night (after last meal or before bed):
grape seed extract
zinc
magnesium
vit B6 (only at start and end day of training week)
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no morning and pre bed protein?
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post Aug 2 2012, 11:47 AM

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@zaxxshoxx
only posted supplement regime. didn't realize i should post my meals as well. meals as follows;

morning:
raw oats mixed with 2% milk and natural peanut butter

pre-lunch:
random ~100g serving of lunch meat

lunch:
2 whole pieces of chicken breast (oven baked)

post-lunch/tea-time:
raw oats, milk and natural peanut butter

pre-dinner:
banana

dinner:
2 whole pieces of chicken breast (oven baked) and 2 large whole eggs

post-workout:
2 scoops ON whey + banana

pre-bed:
milk+peanut butter

pretty much sums up my week.
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post Aug 2 2012, 06:04 PM

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I think you need some healthy carbs in your lunch and dinner. Like potatoes or small amounts or rice.... Your carb intake is very low.
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QUOTE(whatdamn @ Aug 2 2012, 11:47 AM)
@zaxxshoxx
only posted supplement regime. didn't realize i should post my meals as well. meals as follows;

morning:
raw oats mixed with 2% milk and natural peanut butter

pre-lunch:
random ~100g serving of lunch meat

lunch:
2 whole pieces of chicken breast (oven baked)

post-lunch/tea-time:
raw oats, milk and natural peanut butter

pre-dinner:
banana

dinner:
2 whole pieces of chicken breast (oven baked) and 2 large whole eggs

post-workout:
2 scoops ON whey + banana

pre-bed:
mil whistling.gif k+peanut butter

pretty much sums up my week.
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QUOTE(XlimShady @ Aug 2 2012, 06:04 PM)
I think you need some healthy carbs in your lunch and dinner. Like potatoes or small amounts or rice.... Your carb intake is very low.
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technically speaking , one can't say his carb intake is low. bolded contains carbs and he didn't specify how much oats he could be taking. He could for whats worth be taking 500g of oats each time. lol
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Aug 1 2012, 11:43 PM)
mind you post some of the link that you've read about negative effects of creatine?
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link 1

link 2

link 3

Not sure whether all links above is real or fake. Don't shoot me, I'm still in learning process smile.gif
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QUOTE(D.K.Prince @ Aug 2 2012, 10:26 PM)
link 1

link 2

link 3

Not sure whether all links above is real or fake. Don't shoot me, I'm still in learning process smile.gif
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I didn't read all of the info in your source but I greatly suggest that you read a little bit up to date article. 4 years is a really long time in supplementation and nutrition business. There are a lot of thing going on out there and new findings have been made.

Owh btw, our body have creatine inside it naturally and we get them by eating meat.

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