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post Mar 7 2012, 01:35 AM, updated 14y ago

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hi guys,

I'am planing to apply bank housing loan to buy second hand home. Many people said OCBC housing loan good.
Can I know in what way it is better than other bank housing loan?
Thank in advance ^.^
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post Mar 7 2012, 02:22 AM

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QUOTE(derrick-c @ Mar 7 2012, 01:35 AM)
hi guys,

I'am planing to apply bank housing loan to buy second hand home. Many people said OCBC housing loan good.
Can I know in what way it is better than other bank housing loan?
Thank in advance ^.^
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Due to their branding and aggressiveness of their banking strategy, especially they lending the forces of outsources companies liased with insurance companies to promote their product, where, pay as per you cross sell basis ... So, most people were saying OCBC were good ... in terms of approval, perhaps approval and perhaps rates ...

However, now, most banks rates are standardize now ( i mean quite similar to each other ), especially bigger loan size, so services are most important.

Previously, it was the brand name of CIMB, they were the king of approval and rates .... Now, they not keen for approval and rates but deposit ...

To add on, I admire OCBC aggressiveness but too bad, I always prefer Full Flexi Home Loan .... what OCBC offers are Semi-Flexi.






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post Mar 7 2012, 06:46 AM

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post Mar 7 2012, 09:08 AM

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semi flexi and fully flexi different

I am customer service banker in ocbc previously, to withdraw the extra money you dump in before, could tooks u about 7 working days.

I would suggest compareing A to A, B to B, because this semi flexi, other banks are offering fully flexi
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post Mar 7 2012, 09:12 AM

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OCBC loan for me is the best available & very aggressive. thumbup.gif
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post Mar 7 2012, 09:34 AM

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ocbc will charge you rm600 for the land survey
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post Mar 7 2012, 09:40 AM

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From my experience, 'Oversea' bank are never really really good in terms of their packages.

Maybe their branding and promotion looks good, but when u look deeper into the TnC blablabla, you might not find it any better than our own local bank.

There are no perfect package, so you got to find something that suit you the best.

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post Mar 7 2012, 09:54 AM

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i only interest their no lock in package.

what land survey?
condo got kena?

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post Mar 7 2012, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(airline @ Mar 7 2012, 09:54 AM)
i only interest their no lock in package.

what land survey?
condo got kena?
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condo or landed also kena, survey the market value of the house tat u wan to buy
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post Mar 7 2012, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(airline @ Mar 7 2012, 09:54 AM)
i only interest their no lock in package.

what land survey?
condo got kena?
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cimb tarak lock in period smile.gif
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post Mar 7 2012, 11:20 AM

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Any bank that can grant Loan i will take
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post Mar 7 2012, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(napoli26 @ Mar 7 2012, 09:34 AM)
ocbc will charge you rm600 for the land survey
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Property Valuation cost is standardize by the Board of Valuer based on property value as well as purpose for valuation.
So most of the banks will be charged similar amount by the valuers then this cost the customer will need to pay, either as fees or amortized into the loan.
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post Mar 7 2012, 03:49 PM

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So Land survery is valuation Report?
I am referring to undur construction here
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post Mar 7 2012, 04:29 PM

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For undercon, there's usually a "project assessment" done. Certain valuers will do that but not all.
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post Mar 20 2012, 01:23 PM

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Recently OCBC Msia upgraded their internet banking system. I noticed some changes in the statement.

Previously, the outstanding amount takes into consideration the advance payment. For e.g. with 100K balance initially, if I make advance payment of 10K, the outstanding balance will be 90K.

However, now with the same scenario, the outstanding balance will remain as 100K.

I wonder if this will affect the daily-rest interest calculation? Can any OCBC banker here shred some light?

Thanks!
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post Mar 20 2012, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(napoli26 @ Mar 7 2012, 09:34 AM)
ocbc will charge you rm600 for the land survey
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I got afew mortgages with OCBC and never encountered RM600 land survey b/4. Maybe only applicable to landed subsale? Anyway they gave competitive rates (most bank offer almost same rates) but was also very fast in response (good service)


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QUOTE(airline @ Mar 7 2012, 09:54 AM)
i only interest their no lock in package.

what land survey?
condo got kena?
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These days lock-in period 3 years start from 1st drawdown so essentially by the time Vped only left 12 mths. If leasehold property by the time settle transfer already past lock-in period-lo.

Not like my older loan, after 6 yrs still lock-in period (5 yrs from final drawdown = 7 yrs!!!) doh.gif

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post Mar 20 2012, 02:33 PM

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What is the interest rate and how long is the lock-in period ?
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post Mar 21 2012, 10:26 PM

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Hi,

I trying to buy property in Kajang (RM135,000 ONLY) but 3 banks already rejected my loan. OUB rejected my loan because kajang area not under favorable to them and HLB and CIMB rejected because they unable to check my previous records coz I do not have any loans/credit card records. RHB and PBB still pending, really dun knw what they will say !!!!!!! I can't understand 1 thing, I just applied for RM100k loan and my gross income is RM2150 plus with my part time income about RM600 and I also do not have any debts or loan with any banks. I m just 25years but would like to get a property 1st before i wan apply for any other loans. Can anyone help me to get housing loan?

Thank you
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post Mar 21 2012, 10:41 PM

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btw, which bank offer good package for full flexi loan and minimal/no lock-in?
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post Mar 26 2012, 01:27 PM

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what is the "accured profits/interest" mean? it seems to increasing day by day, but with no effect to outstanding balance.

any OCBC banker here can help?
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post Mar 26 2012, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(vijaz7 @ Mar 21 2012, 10:26 PM)
Hi,

I trying to buy property in Kajang (RM135,000 ONLY) but 3 banks already rejected my loan. OUB rejected my loan because kajang area not under favorable to them and HLB and CIMB rejected because they unable to check my previous records coz I do not have any loans/credit card records. RHB and PBB still pending, really dun knw what they will say !!!!!!! I can't understand 1 thing, I just applied for RM100k loan and my gross income is RM2150 plus with my part time income about RM600 and I also do not have any debts or loan with any banks. I m just 25years but would like to get a property 1st before i wan apply for any other loans. Can anyone help me to get housing loan?

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Apply under one malaysia house scheme ( for first time buyers )


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post Mar 26 2012, 08:53 PM

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i have ocb.c loan, so far so good, but i applied last yr, not sure for 2012 still the same
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post Mar 26 2012, 09:04 PM

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check with the bank valuation price first when purchase subsale property.

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post Mar 26 2012, 09:46 PM

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ocbc very aggressive in their mortgage business ah?
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post Mar 26 2012, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(thunderaj @ Mar 26 2012, 06:51 PM)
Apply under one malaysia house scheme ( for first time buyers )
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Still cannot :-(
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post Mar 27 2012, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(vijaz7 @ Mar 21 2012, 10:26 PM)
Hi,

I trying to buy property in Kajang (RM135,000 ONLY) but 3 banks already rejected my loan. OUB rejected my loan because kajang area not under favorable to them and HLB and CIMB rejected because they unable to check my previous records coz I do not have any loans/credit card records. RHB and PBB still pending, really dun knw what they will say !!!!!!! I can't understand 1 thing, I just applied for RM100k loan and my gross income is RM2150 plus with my part time income about RM600 and I also do not have any debts or loan with any banks. I m just 25years but would like to get a property 1st before i wan apply for any other loans. Can anyone help me to get housing loan?

Thank you
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Your loan is rejected due to 1 reason.
You do not have a CCRIS record.
Means when you DO NOT have a credit card, banks cannot see your past transactions.
Thus they cannot assess your financial cash flow "authenticity".

Get any banker from mobile sales team.
Depends on how banker write recommendation.
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post Mar 27 2012, 12:17 AM

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Full flexi or Semi Flexi?

Really depends on how well & how often you use these facilities.

Full Flexi Difference
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They give you:
0. Current account
1. ATM card
2. Cheque book
3. Bank statement end of the month (how much you bank in & how much you saved)

For all that,
bank charge you rm10/month

Thus begs this question: Do you use deposit $$$ into flexi account every month?
Some of my clients apply full flexi and paid rm10/month for years, yet they do not use this facility.
Yes, people who use semi-flexi might argue you have to notify bank 7 days in advance and queue to deposit.
And yeah you can avoid all that by paying 120/year.
But again really depends on how you use these facilities.
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post Mar 27 2012, 12:23 AM

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The reason i seldom get involved in " which bank is better etc" is that, lots of misleading and false infos by sifu wanna bes...as far as i know, for OCBC u need only 3 days notice to withdraw extra prepayments that u had made...and only Rm10 per withdrawal, no limit per month, compared to seven days for HL bank and Public Banks Rm 50 per withrawal and only can do so once per month....information always changes, so its best to go to the banks yourself to find out, instead of believing the claims here...some may be other bankers giving inaccurate info, bestncheck yurself
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post Mar 27 2012, 10:03 PM

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There is better offer from AIA Mortgage Loan with Fixed Interest Rate of 4.85% throught out the whole period.

There is no lock in period as well for the sale the property or settle early.

Best package in town at the moment.

Need more info kindly do call me 016-3595075(Deyen)

Min Loan:100k

No effect with BLR.

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QUOTE(Deyendra Doshi @ Mar 27 2012, 10:03 PM)
There is better offer from AIA Mortgage Loan with Fixed Interest Rate of 4.85% throught out the whole period.

There is no lock in period as well for the sale the property or settle early.

Best package in town at the moment.

Need more info kindly do call me 016-3595075(Deyen)

Min Loan:100k

No effect with BLR.
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i want fixed rate for 2%pa.

the down side of fixed rate is it can not get benifit when blr decrease

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post Mar 27 2012, 10:54 PM

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AIA is not a loan that is ideal for investors.

the only USP which is a fixed rate - not too compelling in a low interest rate environment, especially when the FED and EURO Central Bank have pledged low interest rates till 2015.

Coupled with the fact that you can't cash out with AIA with ease, plus they don't have a full flexi product.

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post May 7 2012, 05:10 PM

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i feel ocbc is quite good.
i took both of my house loan from ocbc too.
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speedy service and good rate.
the reason i choose ocbc is because they came to collect documents from me and sent me offer letter by hand,
somemore, they follow up my case tightly.

thumb up for OCBC.
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post May 7 2012, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(Deyendra Doshi @ Mar 27 2012, 10:03 PM)
There is better offer from AIA Mortgage Loan with Fixed Interest Rate of 4.85% throught out the whole period.

There is no lock in period as well for the sale the property or settle early.

Best package in town at the moment.

Need more info kindly do call me 016-3595075(Deyen)

Min Loan:100k

No effect with BLR.
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2 questions for you.

Zero Moving Cost?

90% Margin of Advance if 3rd Housing Loan?
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WHat about loan offer by HSBC ? im currently looking for loan for to buy a sub sales property too . in the dark which bank to choose
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post May 7 2012, 05:53 PM

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Now days the rate from all banks is very similar.
Just pick the package that suit you best:
-minus blr rate
-Full flexi, semi flexi, fixed
-minimum lock in period
-service quality and respond.

But must say OCBC is doing very well in service respond and as well as quality. 3 days to pre-approved my loan. Without paying a single cents, even until i signed the loan offer.
Save me alot of waiting time. That's why I choose them.



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I have recently purchased a house in Semenyih for investment and took OCBC Bank due to the following:-


i. Up to 80% commitment based on net income. (Able to obtain 90% loan plus good BLR - 2.4% rate) icon_idea.gif

ii. Offered innovative loan called "Renovation Loan" with BLR +0% on top of my approved housing loan facilities. The best part is that the Renovation Loan is able to "skip" my existing high commitment shown in CCRIS.

iii. Provided example of payment, and the expected full amount of housing loan need to be paid (principal + interest) through separate letter (more clarity & transparency).

Thumbs up to OCBC Bank rclxms.gif
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Is Maybank MaxiHome Loan daily rest?
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Hi,
For those subsale owners, mind to share with me your ocbc panel lawyer contacts.

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post May 8 2012, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(izzudrecoba @ May 7 2012, 06:18 PM)
I have recently purchased a house in Semenyih for investment and took OCBC Bank due to the following:-
i. Up to 80% commitment based on net income. (Able to obtain 90% loan plus good BLR - 2.4% rate)  icon_idea.gif

ii. Offered innovative loan called "Renovation Loan" with BLR +0% on top of my approved housing loan facilities. The best part is that the Renovation Loan is able to "skip" my existing high commitment shown in CCRIS.

iii. Provided example of payment, and the expected full amount of housing loan need to be paid (principal + interest) through separate letter (more clarity & transparency).

Thumbs up to OCBC Bank  rclxms.gif
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Up to 80% commitment? Really?



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post May 8 2012, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(izzudrecoba @ May 7 2012, 06:18 PM)
I have recently purchased a house in Semenyih for investment and took OCBC Bank due to the following:-
i. Up to 80% commitment based on net income. (Able to obtain 90% loan plus good BLR - 2.4% rate)  icon_idea.gif

ii. Offered innovative loan called "Renovation Loan" with BLR +0% on top of my approved housing loan facilities. The best part is that the Renovation Loan is able to "skip" my existing high commitment shown in CCRIS.

iii. Provided example of payment, and the expected full amount of housing loan need to be paid (principal + interest) through separate letter (more clarity & transparency).

Thumbs up to OCBC Bank  rclxms.gif
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how much is your loan amount ?

when i ask ocbc, if loan amount less than xxx, it is blr - 2.2

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QUOTE(izzudrecoba @ May 7 2012, 08:18 PM)
I have recently purchased a house in Semenyih for investment and took OCBC Bank due to the following:-
i. Up to 80% commitment based on net income. (Able to obtain 90% loan plus good BLR - 2.4% rate)  icon_idea.gif

ii. Offered innovative loan called "Renovation Loan" with BLR +0% on top of my approved housing loan facilities. The best part is that the Renovation Loan is able to "skip" my existing high commitment shown in CCRIS.

iii. Provided example of payment, and the expected full amount of housing loan need to be paid (principal + interest) through separate letter (more clarity & transparency).

Thumbs up to OCBC Bank  rclxms.gif
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OCBC offerred similar product like you to my recent purchase, good follow up and service. They even called me in overseas..... Thats why i decided to give it a try, 1st time used different bank...
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QUOTE(jalsrix @ May 8 2012, 01:51 AM)
how much is your loan amount ?

when i ask ocbc, if loan amount less than xxx, it is blr - 2.2
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Loan amout: RM 300,000

BLR = - 2.4%

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Up to 80% commitment? Really?
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Yes. Only if you are in executive position and above with income at least minimum RM 3,000 and above, If I'm not mistaken.

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I took loan from CIMB recently they gave me BLR - 2.45 and Alliance gave me BLR - 2.4. Both full flexi loans. Both loan amounts in the region of 800-900k.

Why should settle for semi flexi when one can get full flexi?
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QUOTE(froglai88 @ May 8 2012, 07:04 AM)
OCBC offerred similar product like you to my recent purchase, good follow up and service.  They even called me in overseas..... Thats why i decided to give it a try, 1st time used different bank...
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Great. Excellent flex.gif

Have you decided to take the renovation loan? I rather refinance the existing loan to utilize the cash equity for other investment purpose, rather than using the renovation loan (4.2% versus 6.6%).

I was informed that OCBC Bank is the strongest bank in the world for two consecutive years by Bloomberg Journal yesterday. What an award! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(rockefeller @ May 8 2012, 12:25 PM)
I took loan from CIMB recently they gave me BLR - 2.45 and Alliance gave me BLR - 2.4. Both full flexi loans. Both loan amounts in the region of 800-900k.

Why should settle for semi flexi when one can get full flexi?
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Is tis the loan for G Residence ? And u using their panel banker ?


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QUOTE(izzudrecoba @ May 8 2012, 01:06 PM)
Great. Excellent  flex.gif

Have you decided to take the renovation loan? I rather refinance the existing loan to utilize the cash equity for other investment purpose, rather than using the renovation loan (4.2% versus 6.6%).

I was informed that OCBC Bank is the strongest bank in the world for two consecutive years by Bloomberg Journal yesterday. What an award!  thumbup.gif
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I took it, but will decide if use it or not upon VP. If cashflow allow, wont touch it then.... fingers crossed.. brows.gif shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(froglai88 @ May 9 2012, 06:55 AM)
Is tis the loan for G Residence ? And u using their panel banker ?
Guilty as charged nod.gif

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My sister who got a housing loan from this bank... They pre-approve 36k personal loan and 63k renovation loan on top of her housing loan.. Gila!
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QUOTE(rockefeller @ May 9 2012, 11:01 AM)
Guilty as charged  nod.gif
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Coz I heard their CIMB panel banker can offer -2.45%.... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(kidmad @ May 9 2012, 09:07 AM)
My sister who got a housing loan from this bank... They pre-approve 36k personal loan and 63k renovation loan on top of her housing loan.. Gila!
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Hi Kidmad,

Your sister can opt not to take the renovation loan by ignoring the loan within 1 year after her house is complete.
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QUOTE(rockefeller @ May 8 2012, 10:25 AM)
I took loan from CIMB recently they gave me BLR - 2.45 and Alliance gave me BLR - 2.4. Both full flexi loans. Both loan amounts in the region of 800-900k.

Why should settle for semi flexi when one can get full flexi?
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get semi flexi so you dun have to pay the rm10 monthly ?

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QUOTE(izzudrecoba @ May 9 2012, 10:13 AM)
Hi Kidmad,

Your sister can opt not to take the renovation loan by ignoring the loan within 1 year after her house is complete.
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yup, of course we will never take! haha renovation and so on had being accounted for.
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chaps, i have 3 units from Baiduri (Setia Alam) priced at 194k. if any banks can offer me BLR-2.4, its a deal.

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QUOTE(zackzauri @ Jun 20 2012, 07:43 AM)
chaps, i have 3 units from Baiduri (Setia Alam) priced at 194k. if any banks can offer me BLR-2.4, its a deal.
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waa......so many biji......i am sure bankers out there will be very keen to do your business tongue.gif
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194k must be bumi lot.....but usually loan below 200k can get 2.4 meh? i oso want if can get

QUOTE(zackzauri @ Jun 20 2012, 07:43 AM)
chaps, i have 3 units from Baiduri (Setia Alam) priced at 194k. if any banks can offer me BLR-2.4, its a deal.
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My ocbc was 3 years fixed rate at 4.55% then remaining years will be BLR-2.45% 40 years 80% rm550k

Cimb gave me blr-2.40% 40 years 90%
hongleong gave me blr-2.40% 30 years 90%
ambank gave me blr-2.35% 40 years 80%

uob din wanna do my business lol..


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QUOTE(wanchenghuat @ Jun 20 2012, 02:07 PM)
My ocbc was 3 years fixed rate at 4.55% then remaining years will be BLR-2.45% 40 years 80% rm550k

Cimb gave me blr-2.40% 40 years 90%
hongleong gave me blr-2.40% 30 years 90%
ambank gave me blr-2.35% 40 years 80%

uob din wanna do my business lol..
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Do they charge rm10 every month?, bc this will affect 0.05% if u did the amordise table..
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i choose ocbc coz the loan officer provide good service to me and rates the best at that time

nothing in particular. but i stress for good service more
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Do they charge rm10 every month?, bc this will affect 0.05% if u did the amordise table..
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No rm10 Monthly charge.. Mine is semi flexi.. If i wanna withdraw my advance payment need 3 working days to process and that one got rm10 charge.

Other than that its 3 years lock in.

I went for ocbc coz of the fixed rate. I think the blr may go up soon.. Hopefully i can be protected with the 3 year fixed.

One problem that occur during application is that Ocbc required a whole lot of documents and verifications which other banks dont need. Especially those like me who do not have any CCRIS record at all.. Processing took 5 weeks.

Cimb 4 working days
Ambank 4 working days
Hong leong 5 working days
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Hi all,

Normally OCBC will just take 3 to 5 working days to process the loan.

There is a delay cause of recently OCBC has just upgraded their system & there's some backlog issues which make the processing slower.

After all the implementation & backlog issues have been cleared OCBC will continue to serve customer better.
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QUOTE(chiew @ Mar 26 2012, 01:27 PM)
what is the "accured profits/interest" mean?  it seems to increasing day by day, but with no effect to outstanding balance.

any OCBC banker here can help?
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it is the accumulated interest to be charged on your account during the first day of the following month. because interest is calculated daily, you will see the change in amount everyday. try to pump additional Rm5000 one day and on the next day you will see lower interest being added to the "accrued interest" amount
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QUOTE(kok_pun @ Jul 6 2012, 01:32 AM)
it is the accumulated interest to be charged on your account during the first day of the following month. because interest is calculated daily, you will see the change in amount everyday. try to pump additional Rm5000 one day and on the next day you will see lower interest being added to the "accrued interest" amount
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got it! thanks smile.gif

prefer the previous presentation of the account where the actual outstanding balance was shown.

now i have to do some arithmetic to get the amount correctly hmm.gif
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QUOTE(izzudrecoba @ May 8 2012, 10:04 AM)
Loan amout: RM 300,000

BLR = - 2.4%


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it is not compulsory to buy MRTA if you taking loan from OCBC
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the only downside to ocbc homeloan is probably when your property rise in price and you would like to apply for a top-up loan. they do not facilitate top up loan....ie your borrow 500k today and 3 years down the road other bank can lend you 700k, giving you 200k to invest in another unit......for ocbc, they can offer the renovation loan but it is bearing a much higher interest.
while you can just refinance with another bank, the legal fee and stamp duty will be based on the full amount and not the top up amount.
so that will increase your cost a little.
but of course, this will only happy when your property rise in price and you want to invest another one. otherwise, nothing to complain about ocbc loan
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i just wana correct u on this statement regarding top up loan...
they do provide top up loan and it's cal term loan, they will send a person to inspect ur house and will revalue before giving you more top up loan..and no process fee, except some fee which is around RM500..maybe your SA no knowledge on this... smile.gif and for this top up loan, a different BLR will kicks in, depends on the market rate which i get a better rate for the top up loan..

one thing im suprise is applying top up loan is easier than applying for a new loan for the new house. smile.gif



QUOTE(dinox @ Jul 17 2012, 02:00 PM)
the only downside to ocbc homeloan is probably when your property rise in price and you would like to apply for a top-up loan. they do not facilitate top up loan....ie your borrow 500k today and 3 years down the road other bank can lend you 700k, giving you 200k to invest in another unit......for ocbc, they can offer the renovation loan but it is bearing a much higher interest.
while you can just refinance with another bank, the legal fee and stamp duty will be based on the full amount and not the top up amount.
so that will increase your cost a little.
but of course, this will only happy when your property rise in price and you want to invest another one. otherwise, nothing to complain about ocbc loan
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QUOTE(gheyfriend @ Jul 17 2012, 02:17 PM)
i just wana correct u on this statement regarding top up loan...
they do provide top up loan and it's cal term loan, they will send a person to inspect ur house and will revalue before giving you more top up loan..and no process fee, except some fee which is around RM500..maybe your SA no knowledge on this... smile.gif and for this top up loan, a different BLR will kicks in, depends on the market rate which i get a better rate for the top up loan..

one thing im suprise is applying top up loan is easier than applying for a new loan for the new house. smile.gif
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sounds great, only rm 500 can have better rebates on BLR + top ups
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QUOTE(gheyfriend @ Jul 17 2012, 02:17 PM)
i just wana correct u on this statement regarding top up loan...
they do provide top up loan and it's cal term loan, they will send a person to inspect ur house and will revalue before giving you more top up loan..and no process fee, except some fee which is around RM500..maybe your SA no knowledge on this... smile.gif and for this top up loan, a different BLR will kicks in, depends on the market rate which i get a better rate for the top up loan..

one thing im suprise is applying top up loan is easier than applying for a new loan for the new house. smile.gif
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well, i did the check just 3-4 months ago cos i am now using ocbc homeloan. called up the sales person, said no such things.....not believing the sales person, i called up the call centre and they repeated the same message. and the ONLY way to get more loan is renovation loan

i can only conclude they do not favour top up BUT renovation loan cos they can charge more and renovation loan is something new for them to sell.
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i heard OCBC can provide house loan for more than 90%, can anyone confirm this?
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Jul 17 2012, 06:01 PM)
i heard OCBC can provide house loan for more than 90%, can anyone confirm this?
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depends on developer ,
they seems like now supply spsetia project kuat kuat , up to 95%
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Sp setia linked to govt....= safe developer. Sure more confidence to lend more....
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normally you can apply for 90% MOA + 10% of insurance & LVS financing

on top of that you can also apply for renovation loan up to 30% of your loan amount with BLR +0% (subject to credit assessment)
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QUOTE(souliedude @ Jul 17 2012, 08:56 PM)
normally you can apply for 90% MOA + 10% of insurance & LVS financing

on top of that you can also apply for renovation loan up to 30% of your loan amount with BLR +0% (subject to credit assessment)
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Reno loan 30%?

Not so easy... Depends on grading... BLR + 0% is subject to Reno Term Loan insert into loan agreement, means u have to pay valuation and legal fee or so called LVS. It is almost as good or as high as Personal Loan in 10 years given period. If to avoid LVS, the rates is BLR + 1%, good to cash out but the interest not low.



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I managed to get blr-2.45 whole tenure.
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I managed to get blr-2.45 whole tenure.
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abit weird if they say no such thing..i do heard the renovation loan when applying for my new home loan...but theinterest rate is way high from the normal home loan..even all the bnank rejected my new application..

i end up taking the top up loan from OCBC, i remember i just randomly met the agent in lowyat but i forget the details of the agent already..try to advertise in the classfied for the loan section im sure the agent can help..


QUOTE(dinox @ Jul 17 2012, 05:56 PM)
well, i did the check just 3-4 months ago cos i am now using ocbc homeloan. called up the sales person, said no such things.....not believing the sales person, i called up the call centre and they repeated the same message. and the ONLY way to get more loan is renovation loan

i can only conclude they do not favour top up BUT renovation loan cos they can charge more and renovation loan is something new for them to sell.
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I managed to get blr-2.45 whole tenure.
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Loan over RM800K ?
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QUOTE(souliedude @ Jul 23 2012, 12:53 PM)
can get a minimum of BLR -2.4% and up to -2.45%
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Last 2 month below 800K is -2.4% only
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Last 2 month below 800K is -2.4% only
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i juz got my loan approved from OCBC at -2.45%...

but got 3 years lock in...no free legal...

but lock in not an issues for me...at least i stay for the next 10 years...dun wan shift house again...its scary....unless... i got money buy semi d / bungalow la....
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QUOTE(noswear @ Jul 23 2012, 04:48 PM)
i juz got my loan approved from OCBC at -2.45%...

but got 3 years lock in...no free legal...

but lock in not an issues for me...at least i stay for the next 10 years...dun wan shift house again...its scary....unless... i got money buy semi d / bungalow la....
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How much the loan amount? Less than RM800k ?
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How much the loan amount? Less than RM800k ?
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my loan amount is RM8000K... tongue.gif


my loan range from RM500K - RM800K...
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QUOTE(noswear @ Jul 23 2012, 05:06 PM)
my loan amount is RM8000K... tongue.gif
my loan range from RM500K - RM800K...
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Less than RM800k used to be -2.4% 2 months ago.
Looks like bank has open their tab again.


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the water gate open already
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90%?
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Yupe. Loan amt 600k n pre approved 25k reno loan


Added on July 23, 2012, 9:33 pm
QUOTE(yehlai @ Jul 23 2012, 11:45 AM)
Loan over RM800K ?
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600k loan wif 3 yrs lock in.

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my loan amount is RM8000K... tongue.gif
my loan range from RM500K - RM800K...
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QUOTE(dp82 @ Jul 23 2012, 09:32 PM)
Yupe. Loan amt 600k n pre approved 25k reno loan


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Because the unit is below market unit?
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Because the unit is below market unit?
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OC had such reno loan since long time ago.

The approval of reno loan was based on their customer grading in 5 lvls.

Lvl 1 : up to 30% of S&P price
Lvl 2 : up to 20%
Lvl 3 : up to 10%
Lvl 4 & 5 : not eligible

Lvl 1 is not easy and very hard. Heard only assigned to self employed only.

My CCRIS was quite clean and facilities all '0' arrears. Only Lvl 3. But the rate is equivalent to P. Loan so, not taking it.




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QUOTE(noswear @ Jul 23 2012, 04:48 PM)
i juz got my loan approved from OCBC at -2.45%...

but got 3 years lock in...no free legal...

but lock in not an issues for me...at least i stay for the next 10 years...dun wan shift house again...its scary....unless... i got money buy semi d / bungalow la....
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Because the unit is below market unit?
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No idea y. Mayb my income no strong enuf gwa....
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I also have OCBC housing loan. Every month i will pay extra RM200-300. But now i noticed that the extra I made all go to advance payment. I confirmed with OCBC cust service saying my instalment has been advanced till next year. meaning if I dont pay now till next tear also ok.

I thought whatever extra will go direct minus the outstanding principal??

Anyone can help?
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Orang Cina Bukan Cina bank seem quite aggressive recently....
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QUOTE(thoseeyes @ Jul 26 2012, 03:15 PM)
I also have OCBC housing loan. Every month i will pay extra RM200-300. But now i noticed that the extra I made all go to advance payment. I confirmed with OCBC cust service saying my instalment has been advanced till next year. meaning if I dont pay now till next tear also ok.

I thought whatever extra will go direct minus the outstanding principal??

Anyone can help?
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1. advance payment 2. principal repayment.

if u choose 1. , u no need to pay for next month instalment , if u pay 2x instalment amount on the month.

if u choose 2. , u still need to pay for the next few months , even u pay RM10,000 in the current month... the extra amount will use to offset ur interest payable ... smile.gif


Added on July 26, 2012, 4:58 pm
QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jul 24 2012, 02:36 PM)
OC had such reno loan since long time ago.

The approval of reno loan was based on their customer grading in 5 lvls.

Lvl 1 : up to 30% of S&P price
Lvl 2 : up to 20%
Lvl 3 : up to 10%
Lvl 4 & 5 : not eligible

Lvl 1 is not easy and very hard. Heard only assigned to self employed only.

My CCRIS was quite clean and facilities all '0' arrears. Only Lvl 3. But the rate is equivalent to P. Loan so, not taking it.
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personal loan so low interest rate ? i tot around 8-9% annually ? hmm.gif hmm.gif

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Orang Cina Bukan Cina bank seem quite aggressive recently....
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Agreed. tongue.gif Strongest flex.gif
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QUOTE(thoseeyes @ Jul 26 2012, 03:15 PM)
I also have OCBC housing loan. Every month i will pay extra RM200-300. But now i noticed that the extra I made all go to advance payment. I confirmed with OCBC cust service saying my instalment has been advanced till next year. meaning if I dont pay now till next tear also ok.

I thought whatever extra will go direct minus the outstanding principal??

Anyone can help?
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During computation of interest, your outstanding balance will be reduced according to the advance payment that you have deposited.

So interest is saved immediately
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I jus took ocbc loan for my under con condo project. My agent told me I no need to pay anything during construction period . The interest during construction period will be amortized into the loan amount after 2yrs...

Anyone can confirmed about that ? Will call ocbc to confirm on Monday ...
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QUOTE(thoseeyes @ Jul 26 2012, 03:15 PM)
I also have OCBC housing loan. Every month i will pay extra RM200-300. But now i noticed that the extra I made all go to advance payment. I confirmed with OCBC cust service saying my instalment has been advanced till next year. meaning if I dont pay now till next tear also ok.

I thought whatever extra will go direct minus the outstanding principal??

Anyone can help?
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i remember you have to specify whether your extra payment is for pre payment or reduce principal.

pre payment you can withdraw out if you need the money.

reduce principal harder to withdraw. you have to write letter and wait 1 week.

i also interested to find out more. i also confused. the loan agent did not explain well.

ocbc should give out booklet to us for reference.

i still prefer my scb mortgage1. one account, nice and simple. but m1 charge rm10 per month. ocbc no charge.

please help!! !

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i remember you have to specify whether your extra payment is for pre payment or reduce principal.

pre payment you can withdraw out if you need the money.

reduce principal harder to withdraw. you have to write letter and wait 1 week.

i also interested to find out more. i also confused.  the loan agent did not explain well.

ocbc should give out booklet to us for reference.

i still prefer my scb mortgage1. one account, nice and simple. but m1 charge rm10 per month. ocbc no charge.

please help!! !
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Hi Guys,

Thanks for the replies.

I did talked to OCBC and mentioned I was to specifically use the extra payment I make monthly to deduct principal. But the answer I get is it cannot be done because the system will automatically capture in the advance payment structure. Unless I pay large amount and call them to inform the large payment is for partial repayment.

That is why I'm confuse why should I pay more every month.

Please share
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QUOTE(kok_pun @ Jul 26 2012, 11:28 PM)
During computation of interest, your outstanding balance will be reduced according to the advance payment that you have deposited.

So interest is saved immediately
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U sure ah bro?

Bro thoseeyes didnt mention the surplus payment goes to capital repayment, hence the payment treated as advance payment and no principal reduction. This is wat OCBC banker told me since I applied the loan as well.

Any OCBC senior can confirm this?


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More or less, you are correct.

But OCBC told me capital withdrawal took 3 days instead of one week.

Anyhow, this is Semi-Flexi loan , of course cannot compare to SCB Mortgage One, which is Fully Flexi without hassle free.

For own stay, I much prefer Full Flexi Loans. Investment, it doednt matter... Hehe

QUOTE(yunalesca @ Jul 28 2012, 12:31 PM)
i remember you have to specify whether your extra payment is for pre payment or reduce principal.

pre payment you can withdraw out if you need the money.

reduce principal harder to withdraw. you have to write letter and wait 1 week.

i also interested to find out more. i also confused.  the loan agent did not explain well.

ocbc should give out booklet to us for reference.

i still prefer my scb mortgage1. one account, nice and simple. but m1 charge rm10 per month. ocbc no charge.

please help!! !
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QUOTE(thoseeyes @ Jul 28 2012, 12:39 PM)
Hi Guys,

Thanks for the replies.

I did talked to OCBC and mentioned I was to specifically use the extra payment I make monthly to deduct principal. But the answer I get is it cannot be done because the system will automatically capture in the advance payment structure. Unless I pay large amount and call them to inform the large payment is for partial repayment.

That is why I'm confuse why should I pay more every month.

Please share
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Hmm... If i remember correctly, u need to inform them or write behind the xheque that this payment is for capital repayment which allows u for withdrawal.

If u keen to make extra payment and more hassle free, u should swift to flexi loan, full flexi not semi flexi...


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QUOTE(thoseeyes @ Jul 28 2012, 12:39 PM)
Hi Guys,

Thanks for the replies.

I did talked to OCBC and mentioned I was to specifically use the extra payment I make monthly to deduct principal. But the answer I get is it cannot be done because the system will automatically capture in the advance payment structure. Unless I pay large amount and call them to inform the large payment is for partial repayment.

That is why I'm confuse why should I pay more every month.

Please share
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I'm also taking OCBC loan. Whenever you pay extra, it will be automatically treated as "advance instalment" and cannot be withdrawn.
This is like you pay in advance for the monthly instalment in the future.

Don't worry though, because this extra payment will immediately save you interest. You can check your daily interest to confirm this.

Another type is "capital repayment", this can only be done through cheque deposit or over the branch counter. This will also immediately save you interest, but you can withdraw this by giving OCBC 3-day notice (minimum withdrawal amount 5k, and increments of 1k for my case).

Either way, you save the same amount of interest nod.gif

Just a note, in online statement, your outstanding balance = total balance - accrued interest


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QUOTE(chiew @ Jul 28 2012, 03:05 PM)
I'm also taking OCBC loan. Whenever you pay extra, it will be automatically treated as "advance instalment" and cannot be withdrawn.
This is like you pay in advance for the monthly instalment in the future.

Don't worry though, because this extra payment will immediately save you interest. You can check your daily interest to confirm this.

Another type is "capital repayment", this can only be done through cheque deposit or over the branch counter. This will also immediately save you interest, but you can withdraw this by giving OCBC 3-day notice (minimum withdrawal amount 5k, and increments of 1k for my case).

Either way, you save the same amount of interest  nod.gif

Just a note, in online statement, your outstanding balance = total balance - accrued interest
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"Another type is "capital repayment", this can only be done through cheque deposit or over the branch counter. "

Can that be done via online fund transfer?


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"Another type is "capital repayment", this can only be done through cheque deposit or over the branch counter. "

Can that be done via online fund transfer?
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The information I got is no, online fund transfer will be automatically treated as "advance instalment".


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QUOTE(chiew @ Jul 28 2012, 07:40 PM)
The information I got is no, online fund transfer will be automatically treated as "advance instalment".
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Really leceh like that ..


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QUOTE(1282009 @ Jul 28 2012, 07:47 PM)
Really leceh like that ..
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ya, withdrawal also lecel, have to do it over counter....

that's the compromise we have to deal with semi-flexi package..... smile.gif

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ya, withdrawal also lecel, have to do it over counter....

that's the compromise we have to deal with semi-flexi package..... smile.gif
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let me stress again, semi flexi and fully flexi is not only based on the difference on the withdrawal/redrawal part.

OCBC home loan is neither semi or fully flexi. It is a flexi package.

semi flexi package typically has these features:
1) requires you to phone in to indicate the extra payment as early settlement of advance payments
2) if you fail to indicate, you will be charged 1% (some banks do this afaik)
3) if you indicate advance payment, no additional interest is saved as "advance" payment will only be credited to your loan account when it reaches your cycle date, so it is plain advance payments. and must be in multiple of your monthly payment.
4) For redrawable prepayments, you need to indicate separately and Redraw charge of RM50 is imposed (M*B charge Rm25)

full flexi:
1) current account tied to loan account
2) auto debit from current account at month end and interest is calculated based on outstanding balance minus amount in current account
3) maintenance charge of RM10 per month
4) setup/ processing fee of Rm200

OCBC home loan:
1) no need to call in whatsoever, all extra payments (of any amount) will go into your loan account and interest is saved immediately (exactly like fully flexi loans). you may pay 2/3 months in advance, no issue
2) no maintenance/ setup/ processing fee (you'll save a lot, brother...)
3) for redrawable prepayments, you can pump in cheque or direct over the counter.
4) Rm10 is charged for each redrawal and T+3 days processing time

In conclusion, everything in OCBC home loan is same as flexi loan, except for the redraw part and cheque book facility.

** To Chris Chew, yeah, absolutely interest is saved immediately... trust me... i am the expert...

It's not a reduction in principal balance, but who cares? Interest computation wise, it is going to be:

(Principal balance - Advance payment) * interest rate * no of days/ 365

** but bear in mind, if your package is "service interest during construction period", please DO NOT pay anything extra, it wont help you save anything because there is no principal deduction as yet.

Anyhow, those amount will go into advance interest payment (But do we really need to pay the bank interest in advance?)


Added on July 29, 2012, 1:29 pmAbout the cheque deposit, there would be a cheque deposit slip.

on the bottom left, there are a few options for you:

1) installment
2) capital repayment
3) early settlement

*for capital repayment it must be in multiple of rm1000 with minimum payment of RM1000

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just out of curiousity, would the daily interest in a leap year be divided by 365 or 366?

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not sure bro... that is a good question...


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from my daily interest, it seems like it is divided by 365. but i wish i'm wrong tongue.gif
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do you know mostly other financial institution do a 30 days per 360-day calendar year?

so if you take ocbc loan, it's 30/365 and you save more each month
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jul 24 2012, 02:36 PM)
OC had such reno loan since long time ago.

The approval of reno loan was based on their customer grading in 5 lvls.

Lvl 1 : up to 30% of S&P price
Lvl 2 : up to 20%
Lvl 3 : up to 10%
Lvl 4 & 5 : not eligible

Lvl 1 is not easy and very hard. Heard only assigned to self employed only.

My CCRIS was quite clean and facilities all '0' arrears. Only Lvl 3. But the rate is equivalent to P. Loan so, not taking it.
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must the reno loan applied together with the home loan, or it can be applied when the house is finished built and ready for renovation?
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the reno loan must be apply together with the home loan

validity is 1 year from approval date
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QUOTE(souliedude @ Jul 31 2012, 03:00 PM)
the reno loan must be apply together with the home loan

validity is 1 year from approval date
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jus curious, what is the interest rate for the renovation loan?
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QUOTE(kok_pun @ Jul 29 2012, 01:13 PM)
let me stress again, semi flexi and fully flexi is not only based on the difference on the withdrawal/redrawal part.

OCBC home loan is neither semi or fully flexi. It is a flexi package.

semi flexi package typically has these features:
1) requires you to phone in to indicate the extra payment as early settlement of advance payments
2) if you fail to indicate, you will be charged 1% (some banks do this afaik)


Kok_pun kor, thanks for clarifying.
currently, three bankers are dealing with me and said different things. OCBC did claimed they have the above features you mentioned. but did not mention the reno loan nor top up loan.

I do not mind to pay more in the advance payment, as long as it could help to reduce the interest. and i don't think i need the flexibility of withdrawal, hence, saved the RM 10 for month.

HSBC bank SA kept telling me that fully-flexi loan is better as it gives flexibility and reduce interest. She kept telling me other bank like semi-flexi will not help reducing interest, only fully-flexi can reduce interest (which i really doubt, as OCBC SA already mentioned to me their feature)

Another bank is the Hong Leong Bank, saying that have all of the features like OCBC. The interest is calculated daily based on the total principal - advance payment, but the amount in advance payment is not withdrawable, and can be only used to deduct the next month payment. Prepayment also not withdrawable.

REally don't know which one to believe. afraid what they said will be different stated in the Letter of Offer.

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QUOTE(antih2o @ Jul 31 2012, 06:21 PM)
Kok_pun kor, thanks for clarifying.
currently, three bankers are dealing with me and said different things. OCBC did claimed they have the above features you mentioned. but did not mention the reno loan nor top up loan.

I do not mind to pay more in the advance payment, as long as it could help to reduce the interest. and i don't think i need the flexibility of withdrawal, hence, saved the RM 10 for month.

HSBC bank SA kept telling me that fully-flexi loan is better as it gives flexibility and reduce interest. She kept telling me other bank like semi-flexi will not help reducing interest, only fully-flexi can reduce interest (which i really doubt, as OCBC SA already mentioned to me their feature)

Another bank is the Hong Leong Bank, saying that have all of the features like OCBC. The interest is calculated daily based on the total principal - advance payment, but the amount in advance payment is not withdrawable, and can be only used to deduct the next month payment. Prepayment also not withdrawable.

REally don't know which one to believe. afraid what they said will be different stated in the Letter of Offer.
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ask the respective bank's call center (not the banker) 2 things:

1) advance payment (not capital repayment), are they contributing to interest saving? Do i need to indicate it as early settlement?
2) how much is the redraw charge for capital repayment?

it helps you to compare
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jus curious, what is the interest rate for the renovation loan?
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how come ocbc don't give monthly statement? not even online version.

every month i have to guess how much is the interest paid, etc.
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how come ocbc don't give monthly statement? not even online version.

every month i have to guess how much is the interest paid, etc.
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you probably have to email them to add your loan account to your internet banking.


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QUOTE(yunalesca @ Aug 1 2012, 02:32 PM)
how come ocbc don't give monthly statement? not even online version.

every month i have to guess how much is the interest paid, etc.
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They supposed to give you monthly statement.

Few months back they didn't mail to me the statement and I called up their contact centre and lecture them

They admit their back end delivery of mail got some problem.

Hopefully it's fixed

As a back up plan like what I do, I check thru Internet Banking nod.gif
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I've a pre-approved renovation loan from OCBC. Anybody know what's the required documents to submit to OCBC for loan disbursement?
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QUOTE(lobelia @ Aug 11 2012, 10:58 PM)
I've a pre-approved renovation loan from OCBC. Anybody know what's the required documents to submit to OCBC for loan disbursement?
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Last I heard you need to send for stamping + renovation receipts and etc.

Better to call your banker again & reconfirmed.

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is it normal for ocbc to ask for SD that the property is owner occupied?

this is in my offer letter

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QUOTE(ycs @ Aug 12 2012, 11:57 AM)
is it normal for ocbc to ask for SD that the property is owner occupied?
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None of the banker ask me this Q before blush.gif
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So if I wish to pay more than the monthly installment under the semi flexi type, is the extra payment I made goes to the principal n he ce reduce my loan interest or it treated as advance payment for the following month? Do I need to give notice via letter or call then to do that?
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QUOTE(antih2o @ Jul 31 2012, 07:21 PM)
Kok_pun kor, thanks for clarifying.
currently, three bankers are dealing with me and said different things. OCBC did claimed they have the above features you mentioned. but did not mention the reno loan nor top up loan.

I do not mind to pay more in the advance payment, as long as it could help to reduce the interest. and i don't think i need the flexibility of withdrawal, hence, saved the RM 10 for month.

HSBC bank SA kept telling me that fully-flexi loan is better as it gives flexibility and reduce interest. She kept telling me other bank like semi-flexi will not help reducing interest, only fully-flexi can reduce interest (which i really doubt, as OCBC SA already mentioned to me their feature)

Another bank is the Hong Leong Bank, saying that have all of the features like OCBC. The interest is calculated daily based on the total principal - advance payment, but the amount in advance payment is not withdrawable, and can be only used to deduct the next month payment. Prepayment also not withdrawable.

REally don't know which one to believe. afraid what they said will be different stated in the Letter of Offer.
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HLB is lousy. I had my 1st prop from HLB 5 years back, lucky I finally get rid of them now. The lump sum payment can be done. {Yes}
However the way they ask me to pay n process it makes me cry. My prop is join name with my bro. Every time want to give them RM30k to RM50k for principal reduction need to fill up forms. Need me to sign and also need my bro to sign to fill up that bloody form.

Secondly, that stupid bank require 14 days or more to process. then only they give u a call tell you to pay. The total of 14 days you need to put your money into your loan account or saving account both will be the same. No principal deduction yet so interest still count on you. Even money on their hand. Imagine RM 50k to 60k by giving you 0 interest if you put in loan account. That's crazy. If saving account u get saving account interest for 14 days. The principal reduction only appear on next month statement.

The system they have is sucks too. U can check your loan n get more details on the bank branch u get loan. Other branch say not too sure. Want to pay full also they delay. To me this bank system like oldies system. 100% sucks.

The only best part I get from HLB is 1 percent flat on my 1st year. Subsequent forgotten blr minus something.

Obviously the money you put in they don't allow to take out, some banker say can take out, some say cannot. However the process is very tedious, until I rather find other option to get money than take out the money I gave them. I did my full settlement already 3 months passed. But the idiot bank still on the process finalizing my stuff to give me back all my housing documents.

I do not really know why my father like to put his money into HLB. Just may be their style is neighborhood style which match my father generation.

I'm not a banker and also not their competitor, take my piece of advice research carefully before deal with HLB.

Now taking second house loan from OCBC, as explained by them they will not give me so much trouble on paying lump sum to reduce principal. However just sign, hope OCBC can perform better in terms of service.


Added on August 14, 2012, 2:15 am
QUOTE(kiddyinvestor @ Aug 14 2012, 12:44 AM)
So if I wish to pay more than the monthly installment under the semi flexi type, is the extra payment I made goes to the principal n he ce reduce my loan interest or it treated as advance payment for the following month? Do I need to give notice via letter or call then to do that?
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For HLB they initially let me pay advance interest only. When I see my statement, I called them. then they request a letter of acknowledgment from me, then the next month they start to carry out principal reduction. Lucky enough my 1st year of repayment interest only cost me 1%. Good experience and lesson learned.

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QUOTE(re_freako @ Aug 14 2012, 02:09 AM)
HLB is lousy. I had my 1st prop from HLB 5 years back, lucky I finally get rid of them now. The lump sum payment can be done. {Yes}
However the way they ask me to pay n process it makes me cry. My prop is join name with my bro. Every time want to give them RM30k to RM50k for principal reduction need to fill up forms. Need me to sign and also need my bro to sign to fill up that bloody form.

Secondly, that stupid bank require 14 days or more to process. then only they give u a call tell you to pay. The total of 14 days you need to put your money into your loan account or saving account both will be the same. No principal deduction yet so interest still count on you. Even money on their hand. Imagine RM 50k to 60k by giving you 0 interest if you put in loan account. That's crazy. If saving account u get saving account interest for 14 days. The principal reduction only appear on next month statement.

The system they have is sucks too. U can check your loan n get more details on the bank branch u get loan. Other branch say not too sure. Want to pay full also they delay. To me this bank system like oldies system. 100% sucks.

The only best part I get from HLB is 1 percent flat on my 1st year. Subsequent forgotten blr minus something.

Obviously the money you put in they don't allow to take out, some banker say can take out, some say cannot. However the process is very tedious, until I rather find other option to get money than take out the money I gave them. I did my full settlement already 3 months passed. But the idiot bank still on the process finalizing my stuff to give me back all my housing documents.

I do not really know why my father like to put his money into HLB. Just may be their style is neighborhood style which match my father generation.

I'm not a banker and also not their competitor, take my piece of advice research carefully before deal with HLB.

Now taking second house loan from OCBC, as explained by them they will not give me so much trouble on paying lump sum to reduce principal. However just sign, hope OCBC can perform better in terms of service.


Added on August 14, 2012, 2:15 am

For HLB they initially let me pay advance interest only. When I see my statement, I called them. then they request a letter of acknowledgment from me, then the next month they start to carry out principal reduction. Lucky enough my 1st year of repayment interest only cost me 1%. Good experience and lesson learned.
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What type of loan you had with HLB?
Normally, for full flexi/semi flexi, borrower can pay additional amount anytime to knock off principle to save interest, but it also depends on different banks terms and conditions.
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Fully Flexi

1. Borrower can pay additional amount anytime to knock off principle to save interest.

2. Borrower can issue cheque to use the money in the loan - the money (principle) that the borrower has already paid. Interest will be charged based on the amount taken out.

3. Need to pay certain amount of money per month as there is a current account linked to the loan account.

4. Good for people who need high liquidity of cash very often


Semi Flexi

1. Borrower can pay additional amount anytime to knock off principle to save interest

2. Borrower can only take out money with written notice to the bank (approximately 5 working days (depends on different banks) of processing. Interest will be charged based on the amount taken out. Each withdrawal will cost a certain amount of money (depends on banks)

3. Don’t need to pay the fees every month, as no cheque book or current account is involved.
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I am using OCBC for my first loan.. so far so good.


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QUOTE(kiddyinvestor @ Aug 13 2012, 11:44 PM)
So if I wish to pay more than the monthly installment under the semi flexi type, is the extra payment I made goes to the principal n he ce reduce my loan interest or it treated as advance payment for the following month? Do I need to give notice via letter or call then to do that?
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it will be treated as advanced payment if you don't give any notice to OCBC.
nevertheless, it will immediately save you interest too.

the only difference with principal reduction (aka capital repayment) is that you cannot withdraw the extra payment you made.

if you want to withdraw in the future, you have to do capital repayment by:
i. over the counter; or
ii. cheque deposit (by specifying "capital repayment" at the back of the cheque and the cheque deposit form).
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wow, bro re_freakco, thanks for your input.... i heard from other people have the same experience few years back too... the payment put into does not save the interest....

last week, i double check with HLB agent, and they said the case is not like that anymore.. they have improved their system wor...

but still..... i will take OCBC la.. haha

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QUOTE(firee818 @ Aug 14 2012, 10:22 AM)
What type of loan you had with HLB?
Normally, for full flexi/semi flexi, borrower can pay additional amount anytime to knock off principle to save interest, but it also depends on different banks terms and conditions.
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I signed my contract loan contract about year 2006. I do not recall the name of the loan package. Just know they offer 1% for 1st of year repayment.


Added on August 14, 2012, 3:32 pm
QUOTE(antih2o @ Aug 14 2012, 01:52 PM)
wow, bro re_freakco, thanks for your input.... i heard from other people have the same experience few years back too... the payment put into does not save the interest....

last week, i double check with HLB agent, and they said the case is not like that anymore.. they have improved their system wor...

but still..... i will take OCBC la.. haha
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Improve my @ss, beginning of this year about feb or mar. ask for full settlement. They say the only usual guy that familiar with full settlement on leave. Ask me go again tomorrow n ask again. %#@^%#%. The reply from the teller looks like very stress like that. totally puzzled dunno what to do.. Imagine u bring money in and out of bank very scary one, especially in malaysia. After found the so call expert he say okie, just fill form need to wait for application to be approve by main branch then only can pay money to them. (Give them money also need to queue. Damn attitude). wait for 14 days. So far I can reckon their service still sucks at pudu branch. Cos till now dunno wth they are doing not yet ask me to go to lawyer to get back all my document for my house that finished settlement which more than 4 month ago.

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Do you think OCBC bank sales staff are knowledgeable/ professional enough to answer the queries you have?

I kind of feel the SxB sales staffs are very pushy and rude. Encounter once where the staff is telling me are you genuine in getting thier loan, if want to compare compare than dont waste his time. Further he is doing the cross selling and asking me to sign up their credit card. doh.gif
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QUOTE(dragon_lee @ Aug 12 2012, 12:15 PM)
Boss,

None of the banker ask me this Q before blush.gif
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i still don't understand why ocbc inserted this requirement in my offer letter that the unit is "owner occupied"

waiting for the sales fella to revert
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QUOTE(ycs @ Aug 14 2012, 08:20 PM)
i still don't understand why ocbc inserted this requirement in my offer letter that the unit is "owner occupied"

waiting for the sales fella to revert
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If it is owner occupied, then u get higher margin of financing..
if it is for investment, your margin of financing is automatically slash 10%..

but if you buy > 5 properties, you next property will still be considered investment, regardless if you declare owner occupied..



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Is this Islamic package? Thought Islamic package have different intepretation on their rules.
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pening kepala when come to these islamic loan thing as their terms and wording read liao also cannto understand rclxub.gif
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pening kepala when come to these islamic loan thing as their terms and wording read liao also cannto understand rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(kiddyinvestor @ Aug 15 2012, 08:00 PM)
pening kepala when come to these islamic loan thing as their terms and wording read liao also cannto understand rclxub.gif
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[quote=Chris Chew,Jul 24 2012, 02:36 PM]

The approval of reno loan was based on their customer grading in 5 lvls.
Lvl 1 : up to 30% of S&P price
Lvl 2 : up to 20%
Lvl 3 : up to 10%
Lvl 4 & 5 : not eligible

My reno loan abt 16% of the SPA price. Is that consider moderate? Good? unsure.gif
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Hi I want to ask does anyone here who took ocbc mortgage, did you change to your own lawyer (also panel under ocbc) to do the loan agreement?

My situation now is I wish to have my own lawyer, also a ocbc panel lawyer to do s&p and loan agreement together. However one of the ocbc banker told me ocbc already fix to one lawyer firm and cannot switch to other lawyer. If customer want can request approval but no point cos the manager will not approve.

Is it true I can't switch to the lawyer of my choice. Because having one lawyer to do both agreement can save me some costs.

Thanks.
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QUOTE(pewfy @ May 7 2012, 05:10 PM)
i feel ocbc is quite good.
i took both of my house loan from ocbc too.
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speedy service and good rate.
the reason i choose ocbc is because they came to collect documents from me and sent me offer letter by hand,
somemore, they follow up my case tightly.

thumb up for OCBC.
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QUOTE(mlyuki @ Aug 24 2012, 01:33 PM)
Hi I want to ask does anyone here who took ocbc mortgage, did you change to your own lawyer (also panel under ocbc) to do the loan agreement?

My situation now is I wish to have my own lawyer, also a ocbc panel lawyer to do s&p and loan agreement together. However one of the ocbc banker told me ocbc already fix to one lawyer firm and cannot switch to other lawyer. If customer want can request approval but no point cos the manager will not approve.

Is it true I can't switch to the lawyer of my choice. Because having one lawyer to do both agreement can save me some costs.

Thanks.
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When u sign the LO? Normally shouldnt be any problem and its a bull shit if the banker said his manager sure reject it.


Did u sign the Loan Agreement with the banker's lawyer then? If signed dy, then they have valid reason to reject ur change lawyer request.
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I just signed the LO yesterday but yet to sign any Loan agreement with any lawyer.

I called OCBC customer service and they said I can write in and subject to loan operation approval.
I like to talk to loan department but was not allowed. And I don't have the number for ocbc branch too.

Now the ocbc banker who serve me the LO not allow me to change to my own lawyer which make me feel very upset... especially when he quoted his manager confirm not going to approve.

If I can choose my own lawyer to do all agreements i can save few k. Headache
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QUOTE(mlyuki @ Aug 24 2012, 01:33 PM)
Hi I want to ask does anyone here who took ocbc mortgage, did you change to your own lawyer (also panel under ocbc) to do the loan agreement?

My situation now is I wish to have my own lawyer, also a ocbc panel lawyer to do s&p and loan agreement together. However one of the ocbc banker told me ocbc already fix to one lawyer firm and cannot switch to other lawyer. If customer want can request approval but no point cos the manager will not approve.

Is it true I can't switch to the lawyer of my choice. Because having one lawyer to do both agreement can save me some costs.

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OCBC have many panel law firm, and they also allow non panel law firms.
That banker try to BS you to use his lawyer so he can get commission.
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QUOTE(mlyuki @ Aug 24 2012, 01:33 PM)
Hi I want to ask does anyone here who took ocbc mortgage, did you change to your own lawyer (also panel under ocbc) to do the loan agreement?

My situation now is I wish to have my own lawyer, also a ocbc panel lawyer to do s&p and loan agreement together. However one of the ocbc banker told me ocbc already fix to one lawyer firm and cannot switch to other lawyer. If customer want can request approval but no point cos the manager will not approve.

Is it true I can't switch to the lawyer of my choice. Because having one lawyer to do both agreement can save me some costs.

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i called to customer service to ask the panel lawyer.
and i called to few panel lawyer to get quotation,
then i informed to my loan officer which the lawyer i selected.
i am using soo thien ming lawyer firm.

you can use your selected lawyer.
i have two house under ocbc loan.
latest one is just bought on february 2012.
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I have one of their Team manager contact, he is doing my loan.
Doing things quite fast and straight forward. PM me if you need.
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Aug 24 2012, 02:24 PM)
OCBC have many panel law firm, and they also allow non panel law firms.
That banker try to BS you to use his lawyer so he can get commission.
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actually if you use non panel,
you will face problem during payment draw down.
better dont use non panel.

i found one non panel lawyer firm in bangsar.
good price,
but finally i still use panel lawyer.
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I recently had a not so positive encounter with OCBC.

My existing loan is with them, called them for re-finance/top-up loan...
The first sales guy dragged me for one month, then tell me loan not approved.
Then I walked in one of the branch, met another staff, submitted all required docs, got it approved in 1 week.

I have a feeling that the first guy didnt submit my loan at all. Wasted my one month. Is it possible to lodge a complaint?
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why dont try UOB?
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QUOTE(pewfy @ Aug 24 2012, 02:27 PM)
i called to customer service to ask the panel lawyer.
and i called to few panel lawyer to get quotation,
then i informed to my loan officer which the lawyer i selected.
i am using soo thien ming lawyer firm.

you can use your selected lawyer.
i have two house under ocbc loan.
latest one is just bought on february 2012.
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Hi yes I also intend to use stm lawyer.that's y i told the sales agent but he said his team manager won't approve and he can't help. Thanks for ur reply now i can confirm.


Added on August 24, 2012, 2:54 pm
QUOTE(yehlai @ Aug 24 2012, 02:29 PM)
I have one of their Team manager contact, he is doing my loan.
Doing things quite fast and straight forward. PM me if you need.
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Hi. I've pm u. the sales agent said he deal directly with hq..wonder same manager or not. He said diff branch work differently.


Added on August 24, 2012, 2:59 pm
QUOTE(pewfy @ Aug 24 2012, 02:29 PM)
actually if you use non panel,
you will face problem during payment draw down.
better dont use non panel.

i found one non panel lawyer firm in bangsar.
good price,
but finally i still use panel lawyer.
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Can u advise how to deal with the sales agent ? How to do so that won't offend the sales agent ? the loan already approved and i signed the offer. Even if i insist the bank won't cancel my loan right?

This post has been edited by mlyuki: Aug 24 2012, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE(mlyuki @ Aug 24 2012, 02:51 PM)
Hi yes I also intend to use stm lawyer.that's y i told the sales agent but he said his team manager won't approve and he can't help. Thanks for ur reply now i can confirm.


Added on August 24, 2012, 2:54 pm
Hi. I've pm u.  the sales agent said he deal directly with hq..wonder same manager or not. He said diff branch work differently.


Added on August 24, 2012, 2:59 pm
Can u advise how to deal with the sales agent ? How to do so that won't offend the sales agent ?  the loan already approved and i signed the offer. Even if i insist the bank won't cancel my loan right?
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when you sign the offer letter, in the last page, you can fill up the panel lawyer you selected one.
i think your agent helped you to fill up other lawyer firm already.
just call to customer service and ask them to issue something like "appointment letter" to STMN.
then STMN can draft your loan agreement.
i selected lawyer firm after i signed offer letter.
just call to customer service to ask.

by the way, which STMN you are using?
they have three branches.
i found that Petaling Jaya branch is very friendly.
KLCC area one is not so keen to quote.
i used STMN Klang bcoz near my office.
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QUOTE(pewfy @ Aug 24 2012, 03:23 PM)
when you sign the offer letter, in the last page, you can fill up the panel lawyer you selected one.
i think your agent helped you to fill up other lawyer firm already.
just call to customer service and ask them to issue something like "appointment letter" to STMN.
then STMN can draft your loan agreement.
i selected lawyer firm after i signed offer letter.
just call to customer service to ask.

by the way, which STMN you are using?
they have three branches.
i found that Petaling Jaya branch is very friendly.
KLCC area one is not so keen to quote.
i used STMN Klang bcoz near my office.
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My last page of LO did not mention any lawyer firm. Under ocbc solicitor's is blank.
I think I will call the sales agent again to insist my decision. If he unwilling then I will call customer service.
I actually called up STMN Klang... quite friendly too the lawyer.
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Aug 24 2012, 02:24 PM)
OCBC have many panel law firm, and they also allow non panel law firms.
That banker try to BS you to use his lawyer so he can get commission.
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i'm also trying to change to my lawyer b4 signing LO. can save some $$

if cannot, i got backup LO from another bank to use my lawyer
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QUOTE(mlyuki @ Aug 24 2012, 03:42 PM)
My last page of LO did not mention any lawyer firm. Under ocbc solicitor's is blank.
I think I will call the sales agent again to insist my decision. If he unwilling then I will call customer service.
I actually called up STMN Klang... quite friendly too the lawyer.
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Actually there is a "Appointment of Lawyer" form which is bundled together with your LO. It's not clip together.

You can assign any lawyer of your choice as long as they are panel lawyer for OCBC Bank.
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Recently I apply HL from 7 banks and only this OCBC rejected my loan.

Their commitment calculation is "extraordinary". And they not seeing cash in hand as well. This is the only bank I forseen the sale sure will drop tremendously. No wonder recently many OCBC bankers call cust for refinance house. I just receive 1 today.

Just sharing my experience here....
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I have a bad experience with OCBC. Went to their HQ at Masjid Jamek LRT station. Wanna open a FD account. The service there slow like tortoise....waiting for an hr and when my turn comes, they tell me system down doh.gif
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All banks r searching for new customers. So if u r new to them, they ll treat u like god.

To me, ocbc is just another bank doin the same thg. I just refinanced 2 of my loans fr ocbc to another bank n they got a shock with my decision. Reason for me to do so is bcos they din listen to wat I proposed to them to lower the interest tat other banks r offering me. FYI, those 2 loans r not under lock in anymore. My request was just to match if not beta %.

Guess wat, it ended up they offer me a super gd rate for my new purchase so I'm considering taking fr ocbc again. But sori to them tat I oledi refinanced my 2 loans with other bank which I can save more than 1k/mth in installments.

I hav been honest n straight forward to all banks tat they hav to consider my dream rate. If cant do it, there r actually any other banks waiting in the line to provide it.
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If any banks cant meet the requirement of a customer, naturally customer will source for others. After all, who offer the best, people will go for it.
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anyone got better than -2.45% from ocbc?
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got it! thanks  smile.gif

prefer the previous presentation of the account where the actual outstanding balance was shown.

now i have to do some arithmetic to get the amount correctly  hmm.gif
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recently, the new statement presentation is very difficult to understand.
i will also top up some money to see what is the differences.
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Hi, want to ask some opinion, if the 1 st home loan is for the under con property, and now planning to get 2nd home loan for a subsale unit. How the 1st home loan will affect financial standing in getting the 2nd home loan , does the ccris statement will take the full amount monthly that i should pay or the interest amount?. Tqvm
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QUOTE(Jazz87 @ Aug 26 2012, 06:58 PM)
Hi, want to ask some opinion, if the 1 st home loan is for the under con property, and now planning to get 2nd home loan for a subsale unit. How the 1st home loan will affect financial standing in getting the 2nd home loan , does the ccris statement will take the full amount monthly that i should pay or the interest amount?. Tqvm
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scoring is something that will always be hidden from the field force.
btw, as a member of the field force, i was informed that it will take full loan repayment amount as your commitment
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QUOTE(kok_pun @ Jul 29 2012, 01:13 PM)
let me stress again, semi flexi and fully flexi is not only based on the difference on the withdrawal/redrawal part.

OCBC home loan is neither semi or fully flexi. It is a flexi package.

semi flexi package typically has these features:
1) requires you to phone in to indicate the extra payment as early settlement of advance payments
2) if you fail to indicate, you will be charged 1% (some banks do this afaik)
3) if you indicate advance payment, no additional interest is saved  as "advance" payment will only be credited to your loan account when it reaches your cycle date, so it is plain advance payments. and must be in multiple of your monthly payment.
4) For redrawable prepayments, you need to indicate separately and Redraw charge of RM50 is imposed (M*B charge Rm25)

full flexi:
1) current account tied to loan account
2) auto debit from current account at month end and interest is calculated based on outstanding balance minus amount in current account
3) maintenance charge of RM10 per month
4) setup/ processing fee of Rm200

OCBC home loan:
1) no need to call in whatsoever, all extra payments (of any amount) will go into your loan account and interest is saved immediately (exactly like fully flexi loans). you may pay 2/3 months in advance, no issue
2) no maintenance/ setup/ processing fee (you'll save a lot, brother...)
3) for redrawable prepayments, you can pump in cheque or direct over the counter.
4) Rm10 is charged for each redrawal and T+3 days processing time

In conclusion, everything in OCBC home loan is same as flexi loan, except for the redraw part and cheque book facility.

** To Chris Chew, yeah, absolutely interest is saved immediately... trust me... i am the expert...

It's not a reduction in principal balance, but who cares? Interest computation wise, it is going to be:


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Hi kok_pun,

Thanks for the details explanation. After OCBC included new info. I also worries my "Advance Payment" does not help to save interest especially i read Notice from OCBC sometime June-2012 "....The balance of the loan account will not be affected"
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Aug 24 2012, 09:46 PM)
All banks r searching for new customers. So if u r new to them, they ll treat u like god.

To me, ocbc is just another bank doin the same thg. I just refinanced 2 of my loans fr ocbc to another bank n they got a shock with my decision. Reason for me to do so is bcos they din listen to wat I proposed to them to lower the interest tat other banks r offering me. FYI, those 2 loans r not under lock in anymore. My request was just to match if not beta %.

Guess wat, it ended up they offer me a super gd rate for my new purchase so I'm considering taking fr ocbc again. But sori to them tat I oledi refinanced my 2 loans with other bank which I can save more than 1k/mth in installments.

I hav been honest n straight forward to all banks tat they hav to consider my dream rate. If cant do it, there r actually any other banks waiting in the line to provide it.
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can share what is the dream rate you looking at?
saving 1k interest per month is scary..
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QUOTE(Glcotan @ Aug 31 2012, 08:08 PM)
can share what is the dream rate you looking at?
saving 1k interest per month is scary..
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I usually take up loan for shops n factories so any bank which can provide me BLR -2.45 is considered superb. And guess wat, I'm now nego w 1 bank for tat. The previous LO was BLR -2.4 few days ago. I think they can giv in s my track record with them is more than they can say perfect.

For resi loan, I'm sori cos I seldom look into tat.
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Around 800k residential is possible to get BLR-2.45%,(BLR-2.5% for first year)!

Dun pm me, I am NOT banker. : )
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Aug 31 2012, 08:16 PM)
I usually take up loan for shops n factories so any bank which can provide me BLR -2.45 is considered superb. And guess wat, I'm now nego w 1 bank for tat. The previous LO was BLR -2.4 few days ago. I think they can giv in s my track record with them is more than they can say perfect.

For resi loan, I'm sori cos I seldom look into tat.
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What's the max tenure for commercial loan bro? BLR-2.4 for commercial loan is thumbup.gif
Is it depended on loan amount too?


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What's the max tenure for commercial loan bro? BLR-2.4 for commercial loan is  thumbup.gif
Is it depended on loan amount too?
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Usually 20 but I heard there is a bank givin 25 if u r darn gd payor by track record. Oso s u mentioned, loan amount.
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Hi kok_pun,

Thanks for the details explanation. After OCBC included new info. I also worries my "Advance Payment" does not help to save interest especially i read Notice from OCBC sometime June-2012 "....The balance of the loan account will not be affected"
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It's flexi loan, you save Interest.
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QUOTE(ecin @ Aug 31 2012, 10:50 PM)
It's flexi loan, you save Interest.
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It's flexi loan, you save Interest.
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OCBC where got flexi loan?



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OCBC where got flexi loan?
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Yes, they hav.
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Boss, they claimed it semi-flexi loan, which I deemed it is a conventional loan with redrawal facilities.

It is still different from the real full flexi loan which comes with deposit linked current account, which is more hassle free esp for businessman.

When they called it flexi loan, most people confuse that OCBC flexi loan is equals to Standard Chartered Mortgage One, CIMB Flexi Home Loan or Alliance Savelink.

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Aug 31 2012, 10:26 PM)
Usually 20 but I heard there is a bank givin 25 if u r darn gd payor by track record. Oso s u mentioned, loan amount.
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Ic.. btw, commercial loan also has full flexi or is it just fixed term loan?


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Ic.. btw, commercial loan also has full flexi or is it just fixed term loan?
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My previous shop loan was flexi as claimed. Not sure the procedure to withdraw $$$ s I hav not tried tat b4. But I dump in $$$ til balance is less than RM1 and no penalty eventhou its stil under lock in. Ocbc officer told me s long s no redemption, Ocbc cant do anythg bout it. I forgotten whether they hav given me a cheque book onot s I hav no intention to withdraw anythg so din bother oso.
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Sep 1 2012, 02:21 PM)
My previous shop loan was flexi as claimed. Not sure the procedure to withdraw $$$ s I hav not tried tat b4. But I dump in $$$ til balance is less than RM1 and no penalty eventhou its stil under lock in. Ocbc officer told me s long s no redemption, Ocbc cant do anythg bout it. I forgotten whether they hav given me a cheque book onot s I hav no intention to withdraw anythg so din bother oso.
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hihi,

my view is that.. for full flexi with current account, it is most suitable for businessman who expects huge cash inflow and outflow in the same month... for example, cash inflow in beginning of month, and cash outflow during mid month.. interest savings would for the short period of time would offset the monthly maintenance fees of maintaining a current account.

OCBC flexi features .... is most suitable for salary earner or anyone who does not expect huge cash inflow and outflow within the same month. because OCBC package does not require current account, customer do not incur set up fees and monthly maintenance fees. Only incur RM10 per withdrawal. Because most ppl deposit their excess cash to enjoy interest reduction, and only withdraw excess cash if there is emergency use of cash, or good investing opportunities...

so why chose a package where you need to pay monthly fees even if you don't fully utilise the current account facility? ;-)

i may be biaised, because i'm from OCBC... but that is how i view the suitability of our home loan packages...


cheers!
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Currently doing my refinancing. My objective is to ready cash for business investment or etc....
I have few questions, scenario, Total loan 400k, monthly installment 2k.

1) How does flexi and semi flexi work on daily interest. Let say I put in 10k on the 1st day of the month and withdraw it on the 25th. How much does it affect on my monthly repayment.

2) How flexible if I withdraw my money and bank in money to my flexi or semi flexi account? Possible using online transfer? exp like bank in cheque then use online to transfer out money from my account?

3) What charges apply for flexi and semi flexi.

4) Any bank offers a good flexi?
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QUOTE(smwah @ Sep 5 2012, 12:39 AM)
Currently doing my refinancing. My objective is to ready cash for business investment or etc....
I have few questions, scenario, Total loan 400k, monthly installment 2k.

1) How does flexi and semi flexi work on daily interest. Let say I put in 10k on the 1st day of the month and withdraw it on the 25th. How much does it affect on my monthly repayment.

2) How flexible if I withdraw my money and bank in money to my flexi or semi flexi account? Possible using online transfer? exp like bank in cheque then use online to transfer out money from my account?

3) What charges apply for flexi and semi flexi.

4) Any bank offers a good flexi?
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Please see response... specifically for OCBC offers...

1. No difference between OCBC (without current account) flexi loan vs OTHER BANKS (current account) full flexi.. Same daily rest interest reduction.

2. For OCBC, prepayment is easy... 2 types - capital repayment and advance installment... online transfer only applicable for advance installment. But cheque payment is applicable for capital repayment. Withdrawal is less flexible.. only capital repayment can be withdrawn, and process need to withdraw from branch, as well as give 3 days notice.

OCBC flexi features .... is most suitable for salary earner or anyone who does not expect huge cash inflow and outflow within the same month. because OCBC package does not require current account, customer do not incur set up fees and monthly maintenance fees. Only incur RM10 per withdrawal. Because most ppl deposit their excess cash to enjoy interest reduction, and only withdraw excess cash if there is emergency use of cash, or good investing opportunities...

3. Charges applicable - other full flexi packages require maintenance of current account with cheque book... therefore will incur set up fees and monthly maintenance fees for the current account... Our OCBC package, does not require current account, and therefore will not incur set up fees and monthly maintenance fees. Only need to pay RM10 per withdrawal.


Cheers!
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QUOTE(elchico @ Sep 5 2012, 01:58 AM)
Please see response... specifically for OCBC offers...

1. No difference between OCBC (without current account) flexi loan vs OTHER BANKS (current account) full flexi.. Same daily rest interest reduction.

2. For OCBC, prepayment is easy... 2 types - capital repayment and advance installment... online transfer only applicable for advance installment. But cheque payment is applicable for capital repayment. Withdrawal is less flexible.. only capital repayment can be withdrawn, and process need to withdraw from branch, as well as give 3 days notice.

OCBC flexi features .... is most suitable for salary earner or anyone who does not expect huge cash inflow and outflow within the same month. because OCBC package does not require current account, customer do not incur set up fees and monthly maintenance fees. Only incur RM10 per withdrawal. Because most ppl deposit their excess cash to enjoy interest reduction, and only withdraw excess cash if there is emergency use of cash, or good investing opportunities...

3. Charges applicable - other full flexi packages require maintenance of current account with cheque book... therefore will incur set up fees and monthly maintenance fees for the current account... Our OCBC package, does not require current account, and therefore will not incur set up fees and monthly maintenance fees. Only need to pay RM10 per withdrawal.
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Hi, got few questions to be clarify, please help me.
1) I got offered by OCBC (180k + 40k renovation), the sales person say can give BLR -2.4% (normal -2.2% if loan <200k) if I sign up for the renovation loan. And he mentioned that if I dont utilize the renovation loan in 1 year time, it will be forfeit without any extra charges. Is this real? I am afraid that there are hidden charges, as I am not planning to use the amount actually, just want to enjoy the lower interest.

2) What do you mean by the online transfer only applicable for advance installment? Means I cant pay the monthly installment by online transfer? I need to pay by online transfer as I am not willing to go to branch just for the monthly payment as the branch is quite far from my place.

Appreciate if you could help to clarify my question before I sign up for the loan as I have received few other offers which is similar too. But I feel OCBC service is very fast and I like it.
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QUOTE(elchico @ Sep 5 2012, 01:58 AM)
Please see response... specifically for OCBC offers...

1. No difference between OCBC (without current account) flexi loan vs OTHER BANKS (current account) full flexi.. Same daily rest interest reduction.

2. For OCBC, prepayment is easy... 2 types - capital repayment and advance installment... online transfer only applicable for advance installment. But cheque payment is applicable for capital repayment. Withdrawal is less flexible.. only capital repayment can be withdrawn, and process need to withdraw from branch, as well as give 3 days notice.

OCBC flexi features .... is most suitable for salary earner or anyone who does not expect huge cash inflow and outflow within the same month. because OCBC package does not require current account, customer do not incur set up fees and monthly maintenance fees. Only incur RM10 per withdrawal. Because most ppl deposit their excess cash to enjoy interest reduction, and only withdraw excess cash if there is emergency use of cash, or good investing opportunities...

3. Charges applicable - other full flexi packages require maintenance of current account with cheque book... therefore will incur set up fees and monthly maintenance fees for the current account... Our OCBC package, does not require current account, and therefore will not incur set up fees and monthly maintenance fees. Only need to pay RM10 per withdrawal.
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Bro, I agree with your Answer 2 and 3.

But your Answer 1 short statement is correct but you didn't answer in full for what smwah said in "Let say I put in 10k on the 1st day of the month and withdraw it on the 25th. How much does it affect on my monthly repayment."

Yes, it might be no difference only if customer put in the 10k into OCBC Home Loan Account, not Savings Account, but there is difference in if customer take flexi loan, he/she can put in the RM 10k either Home Loan Account or Current Account to offset the capital repayment interest.






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Bro, I agree with your Answer 2 and 3.

But your Answer 1 short statement is correct but you didn't answer in full for what smwah said in "Let say I put in 10k on the 1st day of the month and withdraw it on the 25th. How much does it affect on my monthly repayment."

Yes, it might be no difference only if customer put in the 10k into OCBC Home Loan Account, not Savings Account, but there is difference in if customer take flexi loan, he/she can put in the RM 10k either Home Loan Account or Current Account to offset the capital repayment interest.
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Hi,

Sorry, maybe i just tried to explain (too simplified), without considering readers may not have the basic understanding abt OCBC...

when i say daily rest, and no difference, i meant that the customer would put in RM10k into both OCBC home loan account vs Other Bank current account linked to home loan (comparing apple to apple). and if withdrawal is made the same day, it wouldn't make a difference at all..

because both OCBC home loan account and Other Bank current account's daily rest calculation is exactly the same. interest is calculated based on remaining outstanding home loan balance for both...

On another question relating to - "How much affect on monthly repayment", - No, it has no affect on monthly repayment, because monthly repayment is fixed and agreed upfront... it will only affect the final installment amount depending on the remaining interest (bank will advise final installment for settlement release letter.



QUOTE(kianchun555 @ Sep 8 2012, 12:53 PM)
1) I got offered by OCBC (180k + 40k renovation), the sales person say can give BLR -2.4% (normal -2.2% if loan <200k) if I sign up for the renovation loan. And he mentioned that if I dont utilize the renovation loan in 1 year time, it will be forfeit without any extra charges. Is this real? I am afraid that there are hidden charges, as I am not planning to use the amount actually, just want to enjoy the lower interest.

2) What do you mean by the online transfer only applicable for advance installment? Means I cant pay the monthly installment by online transfer? I need to pay by online transfer as I am not willing to go to branch just for the monthly payment as the branch is quite far from my place.
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Simple answer:
1. Yes, signing up for R&R, but finally, if you do not drawdown the R&R, it will lapse within 1 year after full disbursement. You will not be charged any interest, if you do not drawdown.

2. You can perform online transfer to pay your installment. What i'm talking about is specifically on the prepayment... for your prepayment, there are 2 types, capital repayment and advance installment. capital repayment enables you to make future withdrawal but u still need to pay your next installment. For advance installment, you do not need to pay your next installment, but u cannot withdraw.. so capital repayment, can only be done via 2 methods, ie pay over the counter, or cheque deposit machine. any other repayment mode, will automatically be treated as advance installment.

Hope the above helps..


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Hi,

Sorry, maybe i just tried to explain (too simplified), without considering readers may not have the basic understanding abt OCBC...

when i say daily rest, and no difference, i meant that the customer would put in RM10k into both OCBC home loan account vs Other Bank current account linked to home loan (comparing apple to apple). and if withdrawal is made the same day, it wouldn't make a difference at all..

because both OCBC home loan account and Other Bank current account's daily rest calculation is exactly the same. interest is calculated based on remaining outstanding home loan balance for both...

On another question relating to - "How much affect on monthly repayment", - No, it has no affect on monthly repayment, because monthly repayment is fixed and agreed upfront... it will only affect the final installment amount depending on the remaining interest (bank will advise final installment for settlement release letter.
Simple answer:
1. Yes, signing up for R&R, but finally, if you do not drawdown the R&R, it will lapse within 1 year after full disbursement. You will not be charged any interest, if you do not drawdown.

2. You can perform online transfer to pay your installment. What i'm talking about is specifically on the prepayment... for your prepayment, there are 2 types, capital repayment and advance installment. capital repayment enables you to make future withdrawal but u still need to pay your next installment. For advance installment, you do not need to pay your next installment, but u cannot withdraw.. so capital repayment, can only be done via 2 methods, ie pay over the counter, or cheque deposit machine. any other repayment mode, will automatically be treated as advance installment.

Hope the above helps..
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Thanks for the clarification. So that means after sign up for the renovation loan, i need to sign again for the renovation loan to be disburse right? Which means if i dont sign for disbursement then consider not utilize and no interest charged right? This is my 1st loan so not very sure about the technical term like drawdown.
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QUOTE(elchico @ Sep 9 2012, 02:06 AM)
Hi,

Sorry, maybe i just tried to explain (too simplified), without considering readers may not have the basic understanding abt OCBC...

when i say daily rest, and no difference, i meant that the customer would put in RM10k into both OCBC home loan account vs Other Bank current account linked to home loan (comparing apple to apple). and if withdrawal is made the same day, it wouldn't make a difference at all..

because both OCBC home loan account and Other Bank current account's daily rest calculation is exactly the same. interest is calculated based on remaining outstanding home loan balance for both...

On another question relating to - "How much affect on monthly repayment", - No, it has no affect on monthly repayment, because monthly repayment is fixed and agreed upfront... it will only affect the final installment amount depending on the remaining interest (bank will advise final installment for settlement release letter.
Simple answer:
1. Yes, signing up for R&R, but finally, if you do not drawdown the R&R, it will lapse within 1 year after full disbursement. You will not be charged any interest, if you do not drawdown.

2. You can perform online transfer to pay your installment. What i'm talking about is specifically on the prepayment... for your prepayment, there are 2 types, capital repayment and advance installment. capital repayment enables you to make future withdrawal but u still need to pay your next installment. For advance installment, you do not need to pay your next installment, but u cannot withdraw.. so capital repayment, can only be done via 2 methods, ie pay over the counter, or cheque deposit machine. any other repayment mode, will automatically be treated as advance installment.

Hope the above helps..
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under capital repayment, is there an option to re-calculate the monthly instalment?

my sales guy said that capital repayment cannot be withdrawn; is that correct?
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under capital repayment, is there an option to re-calculate the monthly instalment?

my sales guy said that capital repayment cannot be withdrawn; is that correct?
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No option to recalculate month installment, they are fixed. The advance installment or capital repayment only shortens the tenure of the loan.

Capital repayment CAN be withdrawn, advance installment cannot. Might want to double check with the agent if there's any miscommunication.

EDITL If you want to change the monthly installment, you would have to refinance.

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under capital repayment, is there an option to re-calculate the monthly instalment?

my sales guy said that capital repayment cannot be withdrawn; is that correct?
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advanced instalment cannot be re-drawn

capital repayment can be re-drawn


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QUOTE(shawnk @ Sep 9 2012, 11:35 AM)
No option to recalculate month installment, they are fixed. The advance installment or capital repayment only shortens the tenure of the loan.

Capital repayment CAN be withdrawn, advance installment cannot. Might want to double check with the agent if there's any miscommunication.

EDITL If you want to change the monthly installment, you would have to refinance.
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Correction for you, capital repayment will not shorten the loan tenure.

advanced installment, by the namesake, is advanced future repayments, you may use that to reduce outstanding balance, but to shorten loan tenure, you should be doing early settlements.

btw, afaik, by the book, advanced installments mean you need not to pay for a certain time frame as long as you have extra credits with the bank; on the other hand, after early settlement, you would need to serve your monthly installments as well

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Correction for you, capital repayment will not shorten the loan tenure.

advanced installment, by the namesake, is advanced future repayments, you may use that to reduce outstanding balance, but to shorten loan tenure, you should be doing early settlements.

btw, afaik, by the book, advanced installments mean you need not to pay for a certain time frame as long as you have extra credits with the bank; on the other hand, after early settlement, you would need to serve your monthly installments as well
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Based on my understanding, with capital repayment, you are basically reducing the principle thus reducing the interest. With that you will shorten the loan tenure. Isn't that right?
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QUOTE(shawnk @ Sep 10 2012, 12:46 AM)
Based on my understanding, with capital repayment, you are basically reducing the principle thus reducing the interest. With that you will shorten the loan tenure. Isn't that right?
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for interest calculation, yes you are correct! it will use outstanding balance minus whatever amount of capital repayment to calculate the interest.

Money parked under capital repayment is not directly used to reduce loan outstanding because there is an option to re-draw

just like any other banks, under flexi loans, say you have 100k outstanding and 50k deposit in current account. If you wish to refinance from this bank to OCBC, your redemption letter will state 100k instead of 50k.

I might sound a bit like a geek here, but if you play by the book, it is not directly settlement of loan outstanding, it is just a temporary direct reduction for interest calculation only.
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QUOTE(kok_pun @ Sep 10 2012, 12:55 AM)
for interest calculation, yes you are correct! it will use outstanding balance minus whatever amount of capital repayment to calculate the interest.

Money parked under capital repayment is not directly used to reduce loan outstanding because there is an option to re-draw

just like any other banks, under flexi loans, say you have 100k outstanding and 50k deposit in current account. If you wish to refinance from this bank to OCBC, your redemption letter will state 100k instead of 50k.

I might sound a bit like a geek here, but if you play by the book, it is not directly settlement of loan outstanding, it is just a temporary direct reduction for interest calculation only.
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so, under capital repayment, with option to re-draw, the monthly instalments and loan tenure is unchanged. Then, what has changed?

Further, is there an option to 'early settlement' part of the loan? (i.e. cannot re-draw)
Would that be considered re-financing thus attracting extra fees?
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QUOTE(ycs @ Sep 10 2012, 09:19 AM)
so, under capital repayment, with option to re-draw, the monthly instalments and loan tenure is unchanged. Then, what has changed?

Further, is there an option to 'early settlement' part of the loan? (i.e. cannot re-draw)
Would that be considered re-financing thus attracting extra fees?
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say you pay rm1000 per month, rm800 is for interest, rm200 is for principal repayment.

if you deposit additional rm20000 to capital repayment, your installment would still be rm1000, but your interest might be rm700 and you principal repayment will become rm300.then your outstanding balance will be reduced and you would save more on interest in future. (snow ball effect)

yes, there is an option to 'early settlement' part of the loan. but my advice to you is just pay more to your home loan. it will automatically be converted to advanced payment.

refinance is a completely different story. If you are talking about re-draw of capital repayment money, the bank will charge rm10
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QUOTE(kok_pun @ Sep 10 2012, 12:55 AM)
for interest calculation, yes you are correct! it will use outstanding balance minus whatever amount of capital repayment to calculate the interest.

Money parked under capital repayment is not directly used to reduce loan outstanding because there is an option to re-draw

just like any other banks, under flexi loans, say you have 100k outstanding and 50k deposit in current account. If you wish to refinance from this bank to OCBC, your redemption letter will state 100k instead of 50k.

I might sound a bit like a geek here, but if you play by the book, it is not directly settlement of loan outstanding, it is just a temporary direct reduction for interest calculation only.
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QUOTE(ycs @ Sep 10 2012, 09:19 AM)
so, under capital repayment, with option to re-draw, the monthly instalments and loan tenure is unchanged. Then, what has changed?

Further, is there an option to 'early settlement' part of the loan? (i.e. cannot re-draw)
Would that be considered re-financing thus attracting extra fees?
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Yes, indirectly, you'll settle it early of your loan (physical loan tenure is shorten).
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QUOTE(kok_pun @ Sep 10 2012, 09:44 AM)
say you pay rm1000 per month, rm800 is for interest, rm200 is for principal repayment.

if you deposit additional rm20000 to capital repayment, your installment would still be rm1000, but your interest might be rm700 and you principal repayment will become rm300.then your outstanding balance will be reduced and you would save more on interest in future. (snow ball effect)

yes, there is an option to 'early settlement' part of the loan. but my advice to you is just pay more to your home loan. it will automatically be converted to advanced payment.

refinance is a completely different story. If you are talking about re-draw of capital repayment money, the bank will charge rm10
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Sorry if I'm mistake. For my understanding if for capital repayment, I can save more interest, and might shorten my loan repayment period. I can withdraw them anytime in future with RM10 processing fee, and get the money after 3 working days.

However, i don't understand what is the benefit if I make advance payment?
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QUOTE(will ooi @ Sep 13 2012, 08:01 PM)
Sorry if I'm mistake. For my understanding if for capital repayment, I can save more interest, and might shorten my loan repayment period. I can withdraw them anytime in future with RM10 processing fee, and get the money after 3 working days.

However, i don't understand what is the benefit if I make advance payment?
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You save interest up (from the advance payment you've made) until the point it's used to pay off as the monthly installment.
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QUOTE(shawnk @ Sep 13 2012, 08:07 PM)
You save interest up (from the advance payment you've made) until the point it's used to pay off as the monthly installment.
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Ok understand. In conclusion, capital repayment is purely to reduce capital, while advance payment is purely pay the instalment in advance with the condition i'm not allow to take them out until the point it's used to pay off as the monthly installment.
hmm...i'm not an agent...my maybank conventional homeloan is more flexible in this way while any advance payment is advance instalment cum capital payment that i can withdraw anytime immediately via internet with RM25 fee. but honestly the interest quite high and I plan to refinance to get better loan if after consider the legal fee and new MRTA is still worth.

Any OCBC agent here? can pm me?
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QUOTE(will ooi @ Sep 13 2012, 08:21 PM)
Ok understand. In conclusion, capital repayment is purely to reduce capital, while advance payment is purely pay the instalment in advance with the condition i'm not allow to take them out until the point it's used to pay off as the monthly installment.
hmm...i'm not an agent...my maybank conventional homeloan is more flexible in this way while any advance payment is advance instalment cum capital payment that i can withdraw anytime immediately via internet with RM25 fee. but honestly the interest quite high and I plan to refinance to get better loan if after consider the legal fee and new MRTA is still worth.

Any OCBC agent here? can pm me?
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actually only redraw method is different, interest saving would be the same
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QUOTE(kok_pun @ Sep 10 2012, 12:55 AM)
for interest calculation, yes you are correct! it will use outstanding balance minus whatever amount of capital repayment to calculate the interest.

Money parked under capital repayment is not directly used to reduce loan outstanding because there is an option to re-draw

just like any other banks, under flexi loans, say you have 100k outstanding and 50k deposit in current account. If you wish to refinance from this bank to OCBC, your redemption letter will state 100k instead of 50k.

I might sound a bit like a geek here, but if you play by the book, it is not directly settlement of loan outstanding, it is just a temporary direct reduction for interest calculation only.
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If every month I pay extra house loan and should under 'advance payment' and this advance payment will direct deduct from my outstanding balance and save the interest?

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QUOTE(Phoeni_142 @ Mar 27 2012, 10:54 PM)
AIA is not a loan that is ideal for investors.

the only USP which is a fixed rate - not too compelling in a low interest rate environment, especially when the FED and EURO Central Bank have pledged low interest rates till 2015.

Coupled with the fact that you can't cash out with AIA with ease, plus they don't have a full flexi product.
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Now i'm quite understand..

OCBC vc CIMB Ful Flexi almost the same, execpt the draw back OCBC is when u want to redraw.

The surplus payment for OCBC will treated as advance payment which is also give effect to interest and the amount will carried foward to next moth. Means next month only top up the surplus to make figure same with monthly payment


p/s: correct me if wrong
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QUOTE(soyuzz @ Dec 20 2012, 11:17 PM)
Now i'm quite understand..

OCBC vc CIMB Ful Flexi almost the same, execpt the draw back OCBC is when u want to redraw.

The surplus payment for OCBC will treated as advance payment which is also give effect to interest and the amount will carried foward to next moth. Means next month only top up the surplus to make figure same with monthly payment
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Correct.

But, that's not to define OCBC vs CIMB Full Flexi is almost the same. Repayment is one issue. Withdrawal is another issue. Flexibility to pay and withdraw extra sum is another issue of every individual's behaviour over the debt repayment.



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How its can be same?

Ocbc if u make payment extra, lets say rm 1.5k instead original monthly payment rm 1200.the extra rm 300 will treated as a advance payment. Yes, its will save the interest since the loan calculated on daily basis. But its never minus the principal. Its only reduced the interest for the next payment.

For cimb full flexi, the same scnerio, the rm 300 extra payment will directly minus the principal amount . So, the interest will calculated on the update principal amount. Thus the interest will saving more.

The fully flexi is never same with semi flexi loan (which is actually term loan but with prepayment and withdraw facilities).

If my understanding wrong, pls let me know.

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1. Go for the best rate
2. Go for the experience mortgage sales person

Without an experienced sales person, you will suffer from delay and you will need to follow up this and that because your sales person did not do this did not do that...

Personally, i had a bad experience from sales person from alliance bank. The bank benefits may not be bad or similar with other banks, but your inexperience sales person may cause you a lot of problems .. where you will waste a lot of your time.


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QUOTE(ibwo @ Jan 17 2013, 10:07 PM)
1. Go for the best rate
2. Go for the experience mortgage sales person

Without an experienced sales person, you will suffer from delay and you will need to follow up this and that because your sales person did not do this did not do that...

Personally, i had a bad experience from sales person from alliance bank. The bank benefits may not be bad or similar with other banks, but your inexperience sales person may cause you a lot of problems .. where you will waste a lot of your time.
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Ya.ya..my fren also apply from alliance bank..u know what?..the sales person (banker) not even know how long tenure he can get for the loan and know almost nothing about the product..and the worst scenario, after more than week he apply the loan the banker call him and ask him to re sign the form because previously the form that he sign is wrong form!!! rclxub.gif

If u call their call center like you call the pasar borong punya orang.. No even respect the customer and not have proper knowledge about product...

U can call yourself to experience it. I rather go to others bank with different interest 0.1 to 0.2 but with deal with competant person. We speak for long term relationship i.e 30 to 40 years. Better we served by competant person for pjece of mind..


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The product from alliance bank is good actually.but for HL product..all aspect need to look, not only the interest.
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QUOTE(kok_pun @ Sep 13 2012, 11:27 PM)
actually only redraw method is different, interest saving would be the same
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assuming you still serve your monthly installment every month, in order to enjoy the flexibility of the loan and at the same time saving on interest, is it correct to say that is better to deposit your money under capital repayment instead of making advance repayment ? Please correct me if I am wrong
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assuming you still serve your monthly installment every month, in order to enjoy the flexibility of the loan and at the same time saving on interest, is it correct to say that is better to deposit your money under capital repayment instead of making advance repayment ?  Please correct me if I am wrong
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For semi flexi .yes.but you re still responsible to make monthly payment. The capital repayment only for minus principal but still have to serve monthly payment as usual.

For fully flexi, u bank in the whatever amount and its will automatically minus principal for interest calculation..and upon maturity end of month the account will automatic deduct for serve monthly payment.

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QUOTE(Dohc @ Jan 17 2013, 06:35 PM)
How its can be same?

Ocbc if u make payment extra, lets say rm 1.5k instead original monthly payment rm 1200.the extra rm 300 will treated as a advance payment. Yes, its will save the interest since the loan calculated on daily basis. But its never minus the principal. Its only reduced the interest for the  next payment.

For cimb full flexi, the same scnerio, the rm 300 extra payment will directly minus the principal amount . So, the interest will calculated on the update principal amount. Thus the interest will saving more.

The fully flexi is never same with semi flexi loan (which is actually term loan but with prepayment and withdraw facilities).

If my understanding wrong, pls let me know.

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Based on your explanations, don't you think at the end of the day the savings will still be the same whether the extra payment is offset from your principle or for interest savings?
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QUOTE(Dohc @ Jan 17 2013, 06:35 PM)
How its can be same?

Ocbc if u make payment extra, lets say rm 1.5k instead original monthly payment rm 1200.the extra rm 300 will treated as a advance payment. Yes, its will save the interest since the loan calculated on daily basis. But its never minus the principal. Its only reduced the interest for the  next payment.

For cimb full flexi, the same scnerio, the rm 300 extra payment will directly minus the principal amount . So, the interest will calculated on the update principal amount. Thus the interest will saving more.

The fully flexi is never same with semi flexi loan (which is actually term loan but with prepayment and withdraw facilities).

If my understanding wrong, pls let me know.

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for ocbc, the extra RM300 advance payment will use to deduct your principal and interest too,
but it cannot be withdraw out because it is advance payment, not capital repayment.
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hi,

i am a bit confuse...but the ocbc loan officer also kanasai,,after earn comms...dun wan spend time explain to me...

is this semi or full flexi loan?


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ocbc is semi... if u got a lot credit limit + salary store in the hsbc current account, full flexi u can save up a lot of interest. OCBC u put in, need days to withdraw back.
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Dunno about u guys, but i hate this bank very much together with Hang Lekiu Bank! Bad2 experience.
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Hi, newbie here,

For Flexi Loan-Full/Semi Flexi)

If I pay additional money to reduce the principal loan amount(capital repayment), the monthly installment will remain the same. The only different is that for the following installments payment, the principal payment portion will increase (if compare with the one with no additional capital repayment) while the interest payment portion will reduce (if compare with the one with no additional capital repayment) to reflect the additional capital repayment. In this way, It can shorten the loan period.

Is the above statement correct? notworthy.gif

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Please advice. Anyone?
Thank in advance
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QUOTE(firee818 @ Apr 30 2013, 03:44 PM)
Hi, newbie here,

For Flexi Loan-Full/Semi Flexi)

If I pay additional money to reduce the principal loan amount(capital repayment), the monthly installment will remain the same. The only different is that for the following installments payment, the principal  payment portion will increase (if compare with the one with no additional capital repayment) while the interest payment portion will reduce (if compare with the one with no additional capital repayment) to reflect the additional capital repayment. In this way, It can shorten the loan period.

Is the above statement correct? notworthy.gif
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Yes, this is correct. I currently have 2 mortgages :

1. OCBC semi-flexi
- capital repayment over the counter only
- online transfer is consider as pre-payment (do not reduce capital) but reduce interest
- for eg, if you loan RM500K, monthly payment is RM3,000. If you capital repayment RM200K, you still owe RM300K. Following month, OCBC still expect you to pay RM3,000 (even though your loan is reduced already). Just that more % of the RM3,000 goes to capital repay. The loan period is shortened.

2. SCB M1 full-flexi
- Just bank in (online) to your loan account and the loan is reduced.
- for eg, if you loan RM500K, monthly payment is RM3,000. If you transfer RM200K to your loan account, the interest charged is lower and you do not need to pay anymore. The monthly interest is added to your account. The loan period remain the same.

Hope this helps.




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QUOTE(yunalesca @ Apr 30 2013, 11:59 PM)
Yes, this is correct. I currently have 2 mortgages :

1. OCBC semi-flexi
- capital repayment over the counter only
- online transfer is consider as pre-payment (do not reduce capital) but reduce interest
- for eg, if you loan RM500K, monthly payment is RM3,000. If you capital repayment RM200K, you still owe RM300K. Following month, OCBC still expect you to pay RM3,000 (even though your loan is reduced already). Just that more % of the RM3,000 goes to capital repay. The loan period is shortened.

2. SCB M1 full-flexi
- Just bank in (online) to your loan account and the loan is reduced.
- for eg, if you loan RM500K, monthly payment is RM3,000. If you transfer RM200K to your loan account, the interest charged is lower and you do not need to pay anymore. The monthly interest is added to your account. The loan period remain the same.

Hope this helps.
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Your reply is very much appreciated.

Would you mind sharing the bold sentence, "The monthly interest is added to your account," is it refer to housing loan interest or interest earned from the additional capital pyt (i.e. RM200K)?
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I recently got an offer letter for OCBC bank for property under construction DIBS project 4 yrs, but some clause look funny, is it common, if you are getting offer letter from OCBC bank for under cons project, do u have similar term?


"Availability Period of the Term Loan
48 months from the date of this letter or such other period as may be prescribed by the Bank. Any amount not drawdown during the Availability Period shall be cancelled."
>> mean the if the developer take more than 4yrs to complete, remaining amout after 4yrs not drawdown from bank will be bare by me. This make me feel unsecure & not get protected if the project get delay.


"Term loan
Commencement date of the 1st installment replayment:
- Shall commence on the first day of the calender month following the full release of the Term Loan or first day of the 49th month from the date of this Letter of Offer or upon you taking vacant possession of the property, whichever is earlier or such date to be determined and stipulated by the Bank."
>> This mean if the project get delay, i have to start serving my loan by paying the installment amount even the project not completed.

Please comment if u have similar term.
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QUOTE(firee818 @ May 1 2013, 01:23 PM)
Your reply is very much appreciated.

Would you mind sharing  the bold sentence, "The monthly interest is added to your account,"  is it refer to housing loan interest or interest earned from the additional capital pyt (i.e. RM200K)?
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Housing loan interest.

You still need to pay the interest on the remaining RM300K balance, for eg RM2000 per month. Then after one month your balance is RM302,00.00. The following month you will pay interest for RM302K, etc.

SCB won't call you to pay any money. But for OCBC, they will call you to pay the monthly RM3,000.

I have fully paid the SCB RM500K loan. So every month I only pay RM10 and no interest charges.

Not sure about OCBC if fully pay the RM500K what will happen? Will it auto-loan redemption because the loan tenure is now shortened to 0.
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Your loan is rejected due to 1 reason.
You do not have a CCRIS record.
Means when you DO NOT have a credit card, banks cannot see your past transactions.
Thus they cannot assess your financial cash flow "authenticity".

Get any banker from mobile sales team.
Depends on how banker write recommendation.
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this is interesting to me. the credit card parts.

one of the banker told me that credit card record could not be access by those who wants to check for previous record should we apply for housing loan. but you said the otherwise. i am not saying you are wrong but which one is true?

and what is mobile sales team?
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QUOTE(leechers @ May 30 2013, 08:52 AM)
this is interesting to me. the credit card parts.

one of the banker told me that credit card record could not be access by those who wants to check for previous record should we apply for housing loan. but you said the otherwise. i am not saying you are wrong but which one is true?

and what is mobile sales team?
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when applying housing loan, bank will check the CCRIS to determine the credit risk factor. if you CCRIS is clean (you do not have credit card or loan), they can't access to your Payment Pattern. thus, risk is higher. so, they might reject your loan. anyway, loan can be secure by putting in a Guarantor. provided the Guarantor has good payment record. smile.gif
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QUOTE(jason_chee @ May 30 2013, 10:03 AM)
when applying housing loan, bank will check the CCRIS to determine the credit risk factor. if you CCRIS is clean (you do not have credit card or loan), they can't access to your Payment Pattern. thus, risk is higher. so, they might reject your loan. anyway, loan can be secure by putting in a Guarantor. provided the Guarantor has good payment record. smile.gif
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very well explaination.

but is it true, that bank cant access the credit card record when they want to assess the loan application?

and is it true that if there are lots of credit card transaction, the risk is consider as high, even if there are no dues?

i am concern as i am actually just applied my third credit card, and so far i never even once miss the payment, and currently eyeing on buying another property. afraid it might affect the chance of getting the loan.
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QUOTE(leechers @ May 30 2013, 10:44 AM)
very well explaination.

but is it true, that bank cant access the credit card record when they want to assess the loan application?

and is it true that if there are lots of credit card transaction, the risk is consider as high, even if there are no dues?

i am concern as i am actually just applied my third credit card, and so far i never even once miss the payment, and currently eyeing on buying another property. afraid it might affect the chance of getting the loan.
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i'm not sure what you mean by "bank cant access the credit card record when they want to assess the loan application". but from my understanding, they can't see your transaction. but they should be able to see your Amount transacted for the month, how much u re-pay back and did you pay late or prompt. if i have 10K transaction per month, but i settle 10K on time, risk is low. but if you transact 10K, but repay min such as 1K, then ur risk ratio is higher.

some bank (if i recall correctly, CIMB) do evaluate based 5% of the TOTAL Credit Limit assigned to you for all / Combined credit card into consideration. e.g, if u have 3 CC and each of it has 5K limit. they will take 5% out of 3x5K = 15K as ur commitment as well. in this case, RM 750. i'm not sure how true is this cos i remember CIMB told me this last year when i apply loan with them. OCBC, i don't think they have such problem.
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QUOTE(jason_chee @ May 30 2013, 11:34 AM)
i'm not sure what you mean by "bank cant access the credit card record when they want to assess the loan application". but from my understanding, they can't see your transaction. but they should be able to see your Amount transacted for the month, how much u re-pay back and did you pay late or prompt. if i have 10K transaction per month, but i settle 10K on time, risk is low. but if you transact 10K, but repay min such as 1K, then ur risk ratio is higher.

some bank (if i recall correctly, CIMB) do evaluate based 5% of the TOTAL Credit Limit assigned to you for all / Combined credit card into consideration. e.g, if u have 3 CC and each of it has 5K limit. they will take 5% out of 3x5K = 15K as ur commitment as well. in this case, RM 750. i'm not sure how true is this cos i remember CIMB told me this last year when i apply loan with them. OCBC, i don't think they have such problem.
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the CIMB part is interesting, first time i hear about this. rm750 is calculated as per month or on off?
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QUOTE(leechers @ May 30 2013, 12:11 PM)
the CIMB part is interesting, first time i hear about this. rm750 is calculated as per month or on off?
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yup. that also my first time hearing that. i don't know whether the officer bluff me or not. but that is based on her explanation. the 750 will be add into your commitment. thus reducing ur loan ratio.
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QUOTE(jason_chee @ May 30 2013, 12:56 PM)
yup. that also my first time hearing that. i don't know whether the officer bluff me or not. but that is based on her explanation. the 750 will be add into your commitment. thus reducing ur loan ratio.
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interesting because it was CIMB banker that told me they dont see any credit card record when they want to evaluate the loan application.

but anyway thanks for the share, i will bring the matter up when i engage with him later. smile.gif
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hi.. i want ask something.. i have 1 property.. my balance now around 50k, but need some money i apply for top up loan but got reject by maybank because my property still not get strata title.. so if i refinance with other bank.. do you think my application will be reject if not yet get strata title.. my apparment already 6 years but still dont get strata title..

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QUOTE(sedi78 @ Jul 13 2013, 02:06 AM)
hi.. i want ask something.. i have 1 property.. my balance now around 50k, but need some money i apply for top up loan but got reject by maybank because my property still not get strata title.. so if i refinance with other bank.. do you think my application will be reject if not yet get strata title.. my apparment already 6 years but still dont get strata title..
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If <10 years without strata and your developer not bankrupt, banks should be able to borrow you loan. Otherwise, look for CIMB
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If <10 years without strata and your developer not bankrupt, banks should be able to borrow you loan. Otherwise, look for CIMB
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thanks for reply,
yup now planning for apply CIMB OCBC... but still got rejected.. i think better apply personal loan la
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Wondering if it is possible to top up loan for a OC-obtained house that has not been issued strata tittle?
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I had a bad experience with OCBC b4, and no full flexi i think
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I recently applied 4 banks, OCBC, Maybank, RHB & Bank Islam, all approved except for OCBC. I enquired as to why it was rejected, they said, mgt decision. Huh? Oh well, no hard feelings. They can do what they want, give or not, up to them. Personally, no more OCBC on my list. Hahaha...
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QUOTE(gfunk11 @ Aug 15 2013, 05:47 PM)
I recently applied 4 banks, OCBC, Maybank, RHB & Bank Islam, all approved except for OCBC. I enquired as to why it was rejected, they said, mgt decision. Huh? Oh well, no hard feelings. They can do what they want, give or not, up to them. Personally, no more OCBC on my list. Hahaha...
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is their monthly target/quota...once reach they likely to reject...
they cant borrow too much in a month
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Just want to ask for the OCBC R&R loan did mentioned about the availability period is 12 months from the date of delivery of vacant possession of the Property...

mean 12 months after complete the house/cf/full amount of the money giving to developer?

Kindly advice
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QUOTE(taitianhin @ Aug 15 2013, 05:02 PM)
I had a bad experience with OCBC b4, and no full flexi i think
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Same here...very very bad experience with OCBC. Given letter of approval, then wait until the 3+1 is almost up, they can reject. Better stick with local banks like PBB.
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QUOTE(yeeck @ Aug 15 2013, 06:55 PM)
Same here...very very bad experience with OCBC. Given letter of approval, then wait until the 3+1 is  almost up, they can reject. Better stick with local banks like PBB.
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then how did you settle it?
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apply stanchart full flexi
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then how did you settle it?
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QUOTE(yeeck @ Aug 16 2013, 01:24 AM)
Bring them to court!
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or....pay the interest, as stated in SPA
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QUOTE(stephenking @ Aug 15 2013, 06:44 PM)
Just want to ask for the OCBC R&R loan did mentioned about the availability period is 12 months from the date of delivery of vacant possession of the Property...

mean 12 months after complete the house/cf/full amount of the money giving to developer?

Kindly advice
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mean the money in your R&R loan only valid for 1 year, after 1 year, you cannot use the money anymore...
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QUOTE(alex_cyw1985 @ Aug 16 2013, 11:40 AM)
mean the money in your R&R loan only valid for 1 year, after 1 year, you cannot use the money anymore...
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It's mean you can only apply R&R loan in 12month. After that can't apply anymore. Once applied and get the money, you can spend it anytime you want.
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mean the money in your R&R loan only valid for 1 year, after 1 year, you cannot use the money anymore...
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Understand, but i just received a letter from ocbc saying that my R&R loan already expired...

Fyi, i just received CF/CCC/VP by this June 2013...
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QUOTE(onnying88 @ Aug 16 2013, 01:11 PM)
It's mean you can only apply R&R loan in 12month. After that can't apply anymore. Once applied and get the money, you can spend it anytime you want.
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They telling me, the R&R may count by the day after the loan agreement approve...
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Bring them to court!
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wow, cool man! what was e outcome?
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QUOTE(onnying88 @ Aug 16 2013, 01:11 PM)
It's mean you can only apply R&R loan in 12month. After that can't apply anymore. Once applied and get the money, you can spend it anytime you want.
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not sure the policy applied to everyone, but my R&R loan approved together with my house loan....and the amount is valid for 1 year after VP...and you won't get CASH, you need to get the vendor Invoice for claim, the cheque will issued to the vendor name.

QUOTE(stephenking @ Aug 16 2013, 02:57 PM)
Understand, but i just received a letter from ocbc saying that my R&R loan already expired...

Fyi, i just received CF/CCC/VP by this June 2013...
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check your agreement again for the term... / contact OCBC....
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QUOTE(alex_cyw1985 @ Aug 16 2013, 05:00 PM)
not sure the policy applied to everyone, but my R&R loan approved together with my house loan....and the amount is valid for 1 year after VP...and you won't get CASH, you need to get the vendor Invoice for claim, the cheque will issued to the vendor name.
check your agreement again for the term... / contact OCBC....
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My agreement already mentioned 12 months from the date of vacant possession, dont know ocbc base on what agreement saying my loan is expired!

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QUOTE(stephenking @ Aug 16 2013, 11:44 PM)
My agreement already mentioned 12 months from the date of vacant possession, dont know ocbc base on what agreement saying my loan is expired!
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then better check with ocbc
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QUOTE(chiew @ Jul 28 2012, 03:05 PM)
I'm also taking OCBC loan. Whenever you pay extra, it will be automatically treated as "advance instalment" and cannot be withdrawn.
This is like you pay in advance for the monthly instalment in the future.

Don't worry though, because this extra payment will immediately save you interest. You can check your daily interest to confirm this.

Another type is "capital repayment", this can only be done through cheque deposit or over the branch counter. This will also immediately save you interest, but you can withdraw this by giving OCBC 3-day notice (minimum withdrawal amount 5k, and increments of 1k for my case).

Either way, you save the same amount of interest  nod.gif

Just a note, in online statement, your outstanding balance = total balance - accrued interest
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Where to check the daily interest transaction in internet banking? I only found the monthly interest but not daily. tq.
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Where to check the daily interest transaction in internet banking? I only found the monthly interest but not daily. tq.
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for daily interest, you have to do ur own calculation.
the accrued interest will increase daily, u need to calculate the difference to get the daily interest.
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QUOTE(chiew @ Aug 20 2013, 07:12 PM)
for daily interest, you have to do ur own calculation.
the accrued interest will increase daily, u need to calculate the difference to get the daily interest.
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ok thanks....
1 more question if you don't mind tongue.gif
i see this from my monthly statement:

Prncpl - Auto Split 633.69
Interest Payment Spl 859.31

is it mean the 1493 installment i pay, 633.69 pay for principle and 859.31 pay for interest portion?
i check each month and i found the interest portion become bigger cry.gif

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QUOTE(kyle_kl @ Aug 20 2013, 11:41 PM)
ok thanks....
1 more question if you don't mind  tongue.gif
i see this from my monthly statement:

Prncpl - Auto Split 633.69
Interest Payment Spl  859.31

is it mean the 1493 installment i pay, 633.69 pay for principle and 859.31 pay for interest portion?
i check each month and i found the interest portion become bigger  cry.gif
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yes, you are right about the principal and interest split.

if you make installment every month, the daily interest should get lesser.
but monthly interest could be higher if u have 31 days for the current month, but 30 days for the previous month. smile.gif
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OCBC Housing loan created 2 accounts for me..1 for the house n 1 for the car park...

y they create a loan account for the car park separately?

so obviously the loan amount of the car park will be way much lower..
both loan account got 3 years lock in period...

so normally, after we hv settled housing loan...we will claim back our house n become a true house owner...

so after the lock-in period...if i settle the car park 1st...we need to do car park ownership claiming like we claim our house or car like that as well?
n become a CAR PARK OWNER??!?!?!??!?

anyone mind to share?
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QUOTE(kyle_kl @ Aug 20 2013, 11:41 PM)
ok thanks....
1 more question if you don't mind  tongue.gif
i see this from my monthly statement:

Prncpl - Auto Split 633.69
Interest Payment Spl  859.31

is it mean the 1493 installment i pay, 633.69 pay for principle and 859.31 pay for interest portion?
i check each month and i found the interest portion become bigger  cry.gif
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interest become bigger? now that's strange, I think could be due to the raising of BLR?

that's why you must make principal repayment whenever it is possible (e.g. bonus, income from other ventures etc). to reduce the interest amount. FYI, if you pay the installment without making any capital repayment, the total money been paid for interest is as much as the amount of your principal amount. rclxub.gif
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interest become bigger? now that's strange, I think could be due to the raising of BLR?

that's why you must make principal repayment whenever it is possible (e.g. bonus, income from other ventures etc). to reduce the interest amount. FYI, if you pay the installment without making any capital repayment, the total money been paid for interest is as much as the amount of your principal amount.  rclxub.gif
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I find out the reason, it is due to my loan is not fully release at the same month, so that's why my interest portion increasing compare to previous month.
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QUOTE(shadow_walker @ Oct 16 2013, 12:34 PM)
OCBC is a nice bank! got good offer this month for my new loan. rimau bank sucks..lulz
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rimau bank is which one?
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QUOTE(ecin @ Oct 16 2013, 01:48 PM)
rimau bank is which one?
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QUOTE(shadow_walker @ Oct 16 2013, 12:34 PM)
OCBC is a nice bank! got good offer this month for my new loan. rimau bank sucks..lulz
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Ada locked-in period mou?
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OCBC semi flexi no full flexi as what i know. Now not sure.
But last time OCBC use to be good approver bank. My friend told me that he failed to secure CIMB due to has on hand loan but OCBC manage to get him loan and the tenture is longer.
I too looking for 2nd house loan.
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QUOTE(cheryee @ Oct 16 2013, 02:53 PM)
Ada locked-in period mou?
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Hi Guys..

I hear RNR loan is not allow capital repayment... that mean when you borrow. You are not able to reduce capital with capital repayment..
it is true?

Anyone taking RNR loan?


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Hi Guys..

I hear RNR loan is not allow capital repayment... that mean when you borrow. You are not able to reduce capital with capital repayment..
it is true?

Anyone taking RNR loan?
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what is RNR? which bank is it?

I'm looking for loan for subsale property RM360k, as it's my 3rd property, I can only borrow 70%.
Applied for mbb, and the best rate they can provide is BLR-2.35 with 3 yrs lock in.
Anyone know which bank can provide better rate?
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QUOTE(yslee78 @ Oct 30 2013, 09:35 PM)
what is RNR? which bank is it?

I'm looking for loan for subsale property RM360k, as it's my 3rd property, I can only borrow 70%.
Applied for mbb, and the best rate they can provide is BLR-2.35 with 3 yrs lock in.
Anyone know which bank can provide better rate?
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Try ambank - I just sign the bank offer for my 2nd property oso around RM360k (90%) - rate given BLR-2.4 with 3 yrs lock-in but my commitment slightly higher so I require to put 10k in FD (no terms stated) .
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QUOTE(yslee78 @ Oct 30 2013, 09:35 PM)
what is RNR? which bank is it?

I'm looking for loan for subsale property RM360k, as it's my 3rd property, I can only borrow 70%.
Applied for mbb, and the best rate they can provide is BLR-2.35 with 3 yrs lock in.
Anyone know which bank can provide better rate?
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RNR is OCBC renovation loan..
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Same here...very very bad experience with OCBC. Given letter of approval, then wait until the 3+1 is  almost up, they can reject. Better stick with local banks like PBB.
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Hi, what is the reason they reject your loan after approval? You signed your SPA n Loan Agreement already?
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QUOTE(chiew @ Aug 21 2013, 05:45 PM)
yes, you are right about the principal and interest split.

if you make installment every month, the daily interest should get lesser.
but monthly interest could be higher if u have 31 days for the current month, but 30 days for the previous month. smile.gif
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Hi, what is the reason they reject your loan after approval? You signed your SPA n Loan Agreement already?
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Yes, both S&P and Loan Agreement signed by me. Because they found out later that the property did not yet have a strata title, and the developer under liquidation. It was for a long completed property.
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Hi all Sifu, I got one question about the house/mortgage loan.

I bought a new property last year (new project) and without DIBS.

Since my bank already start charge us interest based on construction progress so what is the benefit if we pay more than the interest amount into our loan account before the project complete?

If I do so is it will deduct my loan's principle or principle + interest?

Or should I wait until the actual loan repayment period start then only I put more money into the loan account?

Thank you all Sifu in adavanced
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Don't consider public bank.

Lousy in service, both sales and credit administrator.

Summore the statement can only be generated every 6 months.
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the more you pay, the less the interest charges you will get. don't need to wait to the actual loan repayment period to start.

QUOTE(ben9584 @ Apr 17 2014, 08:36 AM)
Hi all Sifu, I got one question about the house/mortgage loan.

I bought a new property last year (new project) and without DIBS.

Since my bank already start charge us interest based on construction progress so what is the benefit if we pay more than the interest amount into our loan account before the project complete?

If I do so is it will deduct my loan's principle or principle + interest?

Or should I wait until the actual loan repayment period start then only I put more money into the loan account?

Thank you all Sifu in adavanced
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QUOTE(ben9584 @ Apr 17 2014, 08:36 AM)
Hi all Sifu, I got one question about the house/mortgage loan.

I bought a new property last year (new project) and without DIBS.

Since my bank already start charge us interest based on construction progress so what is the benefit if we pay more than the interest amount into our loan account before the project complete?

If I do so is it will deduct my loan's principle or principle + interest?

Or should I wait until the actual loan repayment period start then only I put more money into the loan account?

Thank you all Sifu in adavanced
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There's normally a waiting period before you can start the pay down the loan during construction period. This will be stated in your loan agreement or loan term sheet.
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I think ocbc bank don't have. we can put down as many as we want to rest the interest....


QUOTE(Chigme @ May 16 2014, 09:47 AM)
There's normally a waiting period before you can start the pay down the loan during construction period. This will be stated in your loan agreement or loan term sheet.
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QUOTE(Chigme @ May 16 2014, 09:47 AM)
There's normally a waiting period before you can start the pay down the loan during construction period. This will be stated in your loan agreement or loan term sheet.
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Actually you can pay down in anytime once they start disbursing to reduce the interest BUT you can't take out any of the money from the capital repayment pool until your principal loan repayment starts.
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How about maybank and RHB? anyone taking this two? Both offer me BLR-2.45%, full flexi hmm.gif


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QUOTE(tifosi @ May 16 2014, 11:07 AM)
Actually you can pay down in anytime once they start disbursing to reduce the interest BUT you can't take out any of the money from the capital repayment pool until your principal loan repayment starts.
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Not for my OCBC semi flexi loan though maybe because mine is DIBS. The bank only allow me to pay advance installment few months after the full loan was disbursed to the developer.

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QUOTE(Chigme @ May 16 2014, 01:41 PM)
Not for my OCBC semi flexi loan though maybe because mine is DIBS. The bank only allow me to pay advance installment few months after the full loan was disbursed to the developer.
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You should be able to pay advance installment anytime. I always do so. How they going to stop you from paying into your own loan account?
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QUOTE(tifosi @ May 16 2014, 02:50 PM)
You should be able to pay advance installment anytime. I always do so. How they going to stop you from paying into your own loan account?
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It is stipulated in my loan agreement. I guess it is not standard across all projects.
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something new again. I've practice pumping more money into the loan account during the progress payment stages. And no problem at all. I'm using OCBC bank semi flexi home loan.

QUOTE(Chigme @ May 16 2014, 02:58 PM)
It is stipulated in my loan agreement.  I guess it is not standard across all projects.
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It is stipulated in my loan agreement.  I guess it is not standard across all projects.
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Might be. But anyway, you don't need to pay any interest also during the construction period because yours is under DIBS. Mine is non DIBS. sweat.gif

QUOTE(gunh @ May 16 2014, 04:51 PM)
something new again.  I've practice pumping more money into the loan account during the progress payment stages.  And no problem at all. I'm using OCBC bank semi flexi home loan.
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I guess her agreement is slightly different? My properties are non DIBS so those with DIBS might have different set of agreement?
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could be.

QUOTE(tifosi @ May 16 2014, 05:52 PM)
Might be. But anyway, you don't need to pay any interest also during the construction period because yours is under DIBS. Mine is non DIBS. sweat.gif
I guess her agreement is slightly different? My properties are non DIBS so those with DIBS might have different set of agreement?
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you can check all rates offered from the banks in malaysia through this website http://www.imoney.my/home-loan or download home loan calculator app from google play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?...imoney.homeloan
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semi flexi and fully flexi different

I am customer service banker in ocbc previously, to withdraw the extra money you dump in before, could tooks u about 7 working days.

I would suggest compareing A to A, B to B, because this semi flexi, other banks are offering fully flexi
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Hi, i'm taking OCBC loan for my first house, only prepare income tax and receipt,I/c,booking form, so gen jiong now~~~
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QUOTE(gunh @ May 16 2014, 04:51 PM)
something new again.  I've practice pumping more money into the loan account during the progress payment stages.  And no problem at all. I'm using OCBC bank semi flexi home loan.
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For DIBS project, the developer will absorb the intetest during construction period. So there is no point of putting the money to reduce loan interest during construction stage as in the first place the interest is born by developer. The money that you dump in serve no purpose and very likely won't earn you any interest (even there is, it will be pathetic)

After completion / VP, you may dump in more than the required scheduled instalment to reduce the interest. If it's full flexy then you will be able take back your extra payment anytime from your current account. If it's semi flexy then you will have to write in to request take the extra money.
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Jul 3 2014, 08:38 AM)
For DIBS project, the developer will absorb the intetest during construction period.  So there is no point of putting the money to reduce loan interest during construction stage as in the first place the interest is born by developer.  The money that you dump in serve no purpose and very likely won't earn you any interest (even there is, it will be pathetic)

After completion / VP, you may dump in more than the required scheduled instalment to reduce the interest.  If it's full flexy then you will be able take back your extra payment anytime from your current account.  If it's semi flexy then you will have to write in to request take the extra money.
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I'm not refering to dibs project
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Has anyone had any issue with ocbc during disbursement stage if the loan?

I heard some get into problem when title under master title.

Anyone experience this before can please advise how it was resolved? Thanks
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Has anyone had any issue with ocbc during disbursement stage if the loan?

I heard some get into problem when title under master title.

Anyone experience this before can please advise how it was resolved? Thanks
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Bank have some criteria before they able to release thr disbursement. Is the developer and lawyer to mske sure all necessary document in order before bank can proceed. All bank is same. In this case, it will not be your responsible should any delay arising in the stage payment disbursement.
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Anyone know how easy to switch from normal term loan to full flexi loan? Any lawyer/agreement fees incurred by doing so? Currently 1 of my housing loan is not full flexi yet coz is under DIBS. Wish to switch to full flexi once VP but plan to stick with the same bank. Sorry for out of topic a bit.


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QUOTE(gunh @ Jul 6 2014, 06:51 PM)
Bank have some criteria before they able to release thr disbursement.  Is the developer and lawyer to mske sure all necessary document in order before bank can proceed.  All bank is same.  In this case, it will not be your responsible should any delay arising in the stage payment disbursement.
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If delay it's not a problem.... but what if disbursement time they say cannot do.... anyone face that before?
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Bank have certain criteria to meet (paper work must be in order) before releasing the progress payment to the developer. If the balls is delay by the developer itself, I don't see any reason they will be charging you any interest or etc. What's your concern?

QUOTE(ruben7389 @ Jul 6 2014, 11:35 PM)
If delay it's not a problem.... but what if disbursement time they say cannot do.... anyone face that before?
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QUOTE(gunh @ Jul 8 2014, 07:59 AM)
Bank have certain criteria to meet (paper work must be in order) before releasing the progress payment to the developer.  If the balls is delay by the developer itself, I don't see any reason they will be charging you any interest or etc.  What's your concern?
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Heard a lot of scary stories on ocbc loans.... apparently some checks they only do after LO issued so at times even LO issued xan still be diaapproved
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not from my personnel experience.

QUOTE(ruben7389 @ Jul 10 2014, 04:45 AM)
Heard a lot of scary stories on ocbc loans.... apparently some checks they only do after LO issued so at times even LO issued xan still be diaapproved
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Hello all, I am planing to buy apartment which cost RM308k. The property is Palm Garden Condo Apartment Lahad Datu. I will combine with my wife and our income per month is RM 3871. My age is now 45 and my wife is 39. I have car loan n repayment per month is RM600. Hold 2 credit card n each credit limit is rm3000. My question here is am i qualify for it
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QUOTE(Davidfts @ Aug 5 2014, 03:28 PM)
Hello all, I am planing to buy apartment which cost RM308k. The property is  Palm Garden Condo Apartment Lahad Datu. I will combine with my wife and our income per month is RM 3871. My age is now 45 and my wife is 39. I have car loan n repayment per month is RM600. Hold 2 credit card n each credit limit is rm3000. My question here is am i qualify for it
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Hi , My name is christopher , am a outsource mortgage.
May I know your total credit card monthly usage and have sign any installment plan ?
From the info that you provide , you are qualify to get your home loan.

For further info , you can call/whatsapp me (019-675 8962).
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any lowyat forum geng can do a pree loan?? i think want to buy my second home, my comitment only for housing loan.tq guys
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QUOTE(kimio77 @ Oct 29 2014, 05:51 PM)
any lowyat forum geng can do a pree loan?? i think want to buy my second home, my comitment only for housing loan.tq guys
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u better go to bank and do it the proper way...

too many henky pancky with runners or so called "consultant".
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u better go to bank and do it the proper way...

too many henky pancky with runners or so called "consultant".
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yeah man..any suggesttion which bank and which bank geive better offer.. flex.gif flex.gif
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QUOTE(kimio77 @ Oct 29 2014, 06:00 PM)
yeah man..any suggesttion which bank and which bank geive better offer.. flex.gif  flex.gif
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You can go CIMB. As my loan, I submit to CIMB, the day itself they can extract your CCRIS report and roughly know your chances of getting it approved.
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You can go CIMB. As my loan, I submit to CIMB, the day itself they can extract your CCRIS report and roughly know your chances of getting it approved.
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Hi guys is it still possible to get 95 percent loan for subsale properties nowadays?
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Hi guys is it still possible to get 95 percent loan for subsale properties nowadays?
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i think is for gov affordable houses project only. The 5% is usually for legal fees+MRTA to lump into your housing loan.
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Wyatt's the best rate for 500k from OCBC housing loan now? Looking at a house in JB.
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can someone give some review on ocbc home loan???

seems like they have the lowest rate in market
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can someone give some review on ocbc home loan???

seems like they have the lowest rate in market
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Ocbc offers 4.35% first year. 4.45% thereafter
For loan amount more than 300k
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i find them good.
not as fussy as pubic bank
no mrta required
service good and professional
fast and efficient.
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This bank ok for housing loans?
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This bank ok for housing loans?
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I’m ocbc banker. Is there anything I could assist? I’ll explain more zz is that ok?
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Hi all Sifu, i would like to know regarding advance payment and capital repayment. currently i got extra cash 10K, want to put into house loan semi flexi to reduce the interest, but future may withdrawal for emergency. i using HLB, should i buy banker chq or just online transfer?

 

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