Yup. Done already. I did it step by step. Did the timing belt first outside, not at SC to save. Then all the fluids service I did at SC

how often = how often u travel
but even if u dn't travel much..and still got thread...better to change every 3 years
cuz that time your tyre rubber harden already
cost?...depends on how big and how good the tyres u want

I dont think the fuel hose has connection with the jerk.

In fact I cant brain why they need to change the fuel hose. lol

haish...bile nak unveil kete n harga ni proton..da tak sabar nihhhh!! sume org tgh panas dok tunggu2

I saw the memo at an SC before regarding this, they did attribute the jerk to the fuel hose. Since some ppl say after sending to SC for rectification, the jerking issue was gone also.

The memo describe how to move the fuel hose to a different position. Something to do heat, I gather.

Another 1.5k for insurance

iafm+ n cfe is euro 5 compliance, n u already answer it. I never mentioned it will be euro 5 in malaysia. Also for other engine, i said compliance.if u insist to go for the older one, just go for it. Still having old iafm in persona. Saga fl, gen2 cps, n even exora cps dont we. But putting euro 5 compliance make it better for emmission than euro 4@ lower compliance. Just check the old iafm emmision in malaysia n iafm+ in fl vs flx emmision long time ago during press conference. Dont u want to promote cleaner engine? Or u oppose to that?

In indonesia, main fuel is ron 88. Hard to find ron 97 overthere n even 95. Dont u know that or u really dont know? Like i said earlier, u can google as much as u can, but thing is not simple as it is.

The reasons why cfe used mpi, rather than gdi, lazy to explain, just read lotus proactive magazines n i believe somebody already put the link before. N its been a long time in the mag(not that long but few month)

if u read back my previous comment, diff engine tech has diff needs, not every engine can easily been tune such as di. Iafm+ is not bad as what u think if compare to cps. If u can give a better engine, yup less top speed,better emmission, why not?

U just oppose the move by prtn, atleast the diff between iafm n iafm+ hp is negligence but with better torque, the same as cps, do u prefer usable power or power that can be used once a while? If u feel iafm+ is not enough, why not pick cfe version? Its not like u end up without any option.

Same case as avanza 1.3, neverheard people complain when it launch, only after few years, then people complain about underpower. But prtn exora, not launch yet, already been complain, same as p3. So, drive it to belive it,rite.

But if u look up the diff between old avanza n new avanza 1.5, they lost around 10nm of torque, but iafm+ give out 2nm more torque than old one, n both pursue given out better emmision control. Atleast with euro 5 engine, u give better emmision cntrl than euro 2 engine despite not achieve euro 5 in malaysia due to content.

Never seen u oppose other makes about their euro compliance engine. My question is why? :-). Is it everything beside prtn is divine?

Its like prtn given out 4 airbags for 75k, still people questioning why not 6, but if others given out only 2 airbags at 88k, even at 120k, no question ask. they can give u 6, but people are not willing to pay. Thats why i want p3 premium line to be priced 80k++ so that none will be ommited, but then, people keep shouted 80k is too much, shud be 70k, n even some asking for 40k. Wth???

If u want to critisize n even bash, be fair to all. If only p3, give u vanilla campro engine, dated 4at, 2 airbags n sell it for 90k, then u can shout about it.

For me, i did critic all, even prtn, but need to be fair n just. Is like comparing vios n saga. Better compare vios n persona. Yup, both have pro n cons, just vios has a bit edge over persona, but now, vios has new contender, executive line p3 n highest grade vios(maybe trd version) with premium line p3, outside malaysia.

Lets wait for profesional review from thailand n indonesia shall we.

But i think this arguments will go no where coz u will keep googling n googling until u become engineer himself, with ir from google :-).

i think i stop herefor this euro things topic. If u not satisfied, just suggesting u paid a visit to prtn rnd,pwrtrain division(engine, not trans) for further explanation about this euro thing,rather than googling.

Sorry if my words are harsh or offended anyone here. Peace yo :-).

this... is win! many ppl like to compare apples to oranges. and even stereotyping without trying it first. lets give it a chance for this new car to prove itself. ok?

" Its like prtn given out 4 airbags for 75k, still people questioning why not 6, but if others given out only 2 airbags at 88k, even at 120k, no question ask. they can give u 6, but people are not willing to pay. Thats why i want p3 premium line to be priced 80k++ so that none will be ommited, but then, people keep shouted 80k is too much, shud be 70k, n even some asking for 40k. Wth???" - even with 10 airbags with 40k price, if we still drive like ahbengs, we still ended up injured or worse, killed. haish. its the problem of attitude, not the product. and ppl will still blame the product rite?

This post has been edited by blo0dLuSt: Mar 17 2012, 03:05 AM

Hi Bro Mat very nice and informative post from you again.

I've been noticing the same trend lately where there's a lot of negativity if anything that have proton's name on it eventhough proton is now improving in terms of their offering.

It have the reached the level where the makes from Jap is considered as divine and full of technological advancement as people have already make their mind before even looking at the spec sheet. Sigh..

The most obvious is the example you've given about Avanza and what make it more puzzling is i have yet to see the same negativity on other makes even if their cars is low specced.

Bro mat79, u did it again. Happy to have u in the forum.

This is the best part....

so the 0-100 acceleration is 9.6 seconds. its about the same with inspira, am i right?

Inspira 2.0 does that in 10.5 seconds.

http://www.proton-edar.com.my/Experience/M...s-(2).aspx#info

U write so much, in the end i just google and can get evidence to support what i claim that EURO4/5 engine need to be modify to suit lower grade EURO2 fuel.. I rest my case.. Go find urs evidence and post up, since this is info sharing forum..

There is nothing wrong for inspira to be better than p321 considering the amount of percentage of parts that's actually importing from Japan.

The most important is proton are closing the gap between the car it is selling with the global car Mitsubishi is selling.

Even if u say there is a lot of p321 proton is learning/copying/imitating/reverse engineering(not design but when design know how) from forte or inspira, it's not a problem, u learn from those global cars like forte and lancer.

I can see this is a good effort from proton. Fairlady in the beginning is actually copying the styling from Porsche, no problem at all.

This post has been edited by turbocharged: Mar 17 2012, 09:15 AM

Next, someone will say "learn what? no tech transfer!"

When BoT ur inspira jek...

They get to assemble the inspira, and they can actually how ppl design plastic parts like dashboard with clips and soft plastic.

No one will actually share core tech, and not everyone can learn it anyway

it depend what they wanted from tech transfer. They know how to design a car already, they just need to pay attention on details and plastic quality only

And of cos, brand image. Afaik, any one with 70k budget is very hard to convince them to get proton. One even get a swift as familly car to carry baby and wife just to avoid the local car badge.

Next they need to hire some very good marketing guy to do wonder

I troll aje....get so serious answer

Nvm, beneficial to the thread also.

Inspira talak soft plastic 1..