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post Feb 14 2012, 11:50 PM

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it looks so sad.


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post Feb 15 2012, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(megat89 @ Feb 15 2012, 12:24 AM)
cannot sell too cheap lar..otherwise who want to buy the persona..since it is not stopped selling yet..this car is exactly priced like the waja..this is a good start for proton to go globally..now they can compete in terms of features..yeah!!abolish all the excessive car duty now!!!
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Persona production will be stopped once this P3-<something> launched. Even Persona now has been green lighted to be used as taxi beginning from last year.
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post Feb 15 2012, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Feb 15 2012, 10:18 AM)
i think inspira didn't pawn forte also...
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yalo yalo, inspira is such a pariah car that the only car it PAWNED is its own ORIGINAL Lancer brother.

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post Feb 15 2012, 10:44 AM

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yalo hoh, ciplak campro with mivec. That CVT is made by who ah? PROTOCO ah?
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post Feb 15 2012, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(atlantis2007 @ Feb 15 2012, 05:10 PM)
what about ala-carte the engine + cvt n plug into saga?
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you can always do it by submitting your proposal to the Proton COsE and wait two months for your customized product.

Just have to prepare the necessary moolah for it.
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post Feb 15 2012, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(sonyman @ Feb 15 2012, 05:21 PM)
which VT for punch powertrain they using? VT ?
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If you mean the CVT manufacturer, yes its PROTOCO PUNCH.
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post Feb 15 2012, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(sonyman @ Feb 15 2012, 05:24 PM)
dont know the belt need replacement a not? anyone know?
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still too new. Don't think anyone had clocked in 200,000km on their FLX or EB yet.

hopefully by few years time, the box price will be down. It is RM22.5k currently for VT2. VT3 should be more expensive I guess.
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Feb 15 2012, 05:27 PM)
nope...not turbocharged
only the CFE is turbocharged
in saga, they only change the GB from 4AT to CVT
solved alot of problems like underpower and FC
some ppl say the 1.3L IAFM + CVT already powerful
try imagine..the 1.6L must be able to reach higher top speed
if CFE...can fly already
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ECU also changed aah.
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post Feb 15 2012, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(sonyman @ Feb 15 2012, 05:28 PM)
Anyone here knows which CVT brand toyota and honda is taking from?

if it is punch powertrain then my heart beats at normal, otherwise need to consider
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Toyota is using the one made by Fuji Heavy Industry (Subaru). Toyota has some shares in FHI.

Honda not very sure. Also own house developed I guess.

BTW, the VT2 and VT3 is a continuation of the original VT1 used in the Mini One CVT and also Rover. Hyundai did toyed with the VT1 but it was dropped in favour for its own house developed 6-speed auto box we can see everywhere now in their Sonata, Tucson and Optima.
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QUOTE(sonyman @ Feb 15 2012, 05:43 PM)

Added on February 15, 2012, 5:47 pmHey , where are the pictures ar Ericxman...? afternoon i saw them now hilang already ....
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those are proton internal slides and are meant for internal circulation only, not for the public.

as for the CVT Reliability, its a gamble. All I could say is, if you really tempted then just gather up your courage to try it or else you can just stick with the usual, more conservative T&H B segments. So far, I've clocked more than 11,000km in my VT2 and so far so good. No unwanted incidents happening to my CVT yet. The only concern about belt based CVT is the durability of the belt itself. I am ready for it in case it snaps. flex.gif
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QUOTE(dvinez @ Feb 15 2012, 05:52 PM)
why none say if all those high tech thing rosak will cost a bomb to repair?
inspira vroom vroomm?
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people give tin kosong with four wheels and a steering wheel to drive, complain

people give loaded tin with a lot of gizmos and toys with four wheels and a steering wheel to drive, complain

complain complain complain complain complain.
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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Feb 15 2012, 05:54 PM)
T&H also going for cvt already...it is time to move on.... tongue.gif
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err... Honda City (malaysian spec)

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post Feb 15 2012, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(dvinez @ Feb 15 2012, 06:01 PM)
cvt are good like no change gear..but see which type u prefer la..some prefer the gear sound..

btw forte driver door got key hole in case remote no battery..
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CVT also got sound mah

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee~
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QUOTE(mezzi-quan @ Feb 15 2012, 09:27 PM)
a turbocharged campro engine wif a better CPS system( means it wil perform better than the normal CPS).....
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no, no CPS involved

instead this is an engine build ground up from the basic Campro itself. The basic Campro in talk is the one with the notorious with torque dip issue.
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QUOTE(neo1point3 @ Feb 15 2012, 09:49 PM)
I feel sad for the first batch flx owner, they(proton) didnt put cvt cooler so that the cvt wont overheat
Lucky proton fix it fast...hopefully no more like this cos if not no one gonna trust on proton reliability test anymore
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my foot lah, first batch tak ada CVT cooler sleep.gif

first batch FLX has the problem with CVT clutch pump and fuel hose. Not all FLX is affected but still Proton make a recall on all FLX and replace the affected parts FOC.
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QUOTE(neo1point3 @ Feb 15 2012, 09:56 PM)
Sorry boss, i thought no cvt cooler  sweat.gif
But still, proton shouldnt repeat that mistake anymore
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if Proton repeat that same mistake, I guess all Exora Bold now will jerk like hell during pick up from stationary and rpm too low during idling which leads to potential engine stalling.

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post Feb 15 2012, 10:25 PM

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all I know is, this new car (the Premium spec one), just have to pijak to 2,000-4,000 rpm then air will be feed into the turbocharger, witchcraft happens then the car goes faster.
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QUOTE(779364 @ Feb 15 2012, 11:01 PM)
Is CFE Campro standard on all variant of the Proton P321?

Proton may decide to stick with a crappy normal Campro on the lower end model like what they did on the Exora.
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1.6 IAFM+ manual
1.6 IAFM+ 6 speed CVT
1.6 CFE 7 speed CVT
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QUOTE(h4dRi @ Feb 15 2012, 11:06 PM)
why only cvt for CFE? why? mad.gif

FLX 1.6 SE olso got auto only
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sorry ah, FLX SE is also CVT
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post Feb 15 2012, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 15 2012, 11:08 PM)
the one in slyphy is very punchy, i was blown away totally by that uncle car......damn, every step on the pedal, i stick to the chair, no joke. a slyphy, imagine that.
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perhaps its due to the weight difference. hmm.gif
The Sylphy is a lighter car than the Inspira BTW. Almost 100kg lighter.

mundane sound of engine? Let your own foot to decide what engine note you want to hear then.

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