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Kampung2005
post Feb 15 2012, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 15 2012, 10:12 AM)
its for persona/gen2/saga owner to upgrade. and frankly speaking, the first turbo mass prod car, ppl are sketical.
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This is the 2nd Proton model to get the CFE. Exora was the first.

I think sales wise, it would be better than Inspira, and at least, the hype of P 3-21 A is much greater than Inspira.

I do agree that P 3-21 A may not beat the sales of Vios, but City.......it's another question.
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post Feb 15 2012, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Feb 15 2012, 10:44 AM)
yalo hoh, ciplak campro with mivec. That CVT is made by who ah? PROTOCO ah?
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post Feb 15 2012, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(stormlcc @ Feb 15 2012, 12:38 PM)
LOL, same like me, bought an old E30 coupe lately.  i'll never listen to my parent's advice about cars, they have been "advising" me for 13 years, i listened once when i'm buying my first car, sold it after 1 year and swore never to listen to them ever again.  imagine, my dad drives a Toyota Unser even though he can buy something that is 10 times better.....

back to topic, 65-75k for a proton sedan is just overpriced, come on, add a bit more u can get japs and contis.  if proton wants to capture more market share, their sedans shouldn't be priced more than 65k.  I don't want stupid LED headlights or stupid info display thingy on the dash.  I want an affordable, comfortable sedan with a good engine, not adding more gimmicks so that they'll spoil after a year or two.  Proton is on the right track on the FLX 1.6, now where's the Saga with the Exora Bold turbo engine?

and what's with the headlight buzzard thingy?  this "technology" is so old it predates my grandma, don't make me laugh
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The standard price for C-segment without heavy taxes is around RM 6x to 8x,xxx.

A Corolla in China costs between RM 60k to RM 89k.

P 3-21 A competes against Corolla rather than Vios.

That said, I do understand why people choose a Vios or City. However, I think, we should reserve our judgment, only when people tried it, tested it or the first batch of users smile.gif
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post Feb 15 2012, 04:57 PM

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On paper, the P 3-21 A is very competitive.
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post Feb 15 2012, 08:36 PM

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As I think, wait until first batch tries it or at least, the car reaches showroom.

Passing judgment on quality of the P 3-21 A is too early.

I do think, quality is the main challenge on past Protons.
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post Feb 20 2012, 10:42 AM

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P 3-21 A will deliver its promise, based on such infos for now biggrin.gif
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post Feb 22 2012, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(sharksuke @ Feb 22 2012, 12:10 PM)
anyone at bukit bintang?
reveal for Tuah?
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That one is Proton Inspira with Yes WIMAX.
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post Mar 3 2012, 10:02 AM

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Proton should stick with Persona name.

If it doesn't replace Persona, just do what Fiat does, Grande Punto.
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post Mar 9 2012, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(Area51SE @ Mar 9 2012, 08:31 PM)
Just saw it in TV3. Recorded the whole thing regarding the P3-21A tongue.gif
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Upload it, I am very curious biggrin.gif
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post Mar 9 2012, 08:57 PM

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Saw it liao.

I think this should be my car to LRT station biggrin.gif
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post Mar 9 2012, 09:51 PM

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A good car for me to drive to LRT station smile.gif
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post Mar 14 2012, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(sochaiapk @ Mar 14 2012, 05:33 PM)
Why got push start but still need to insert key. Isn't it like more steps to start the car. Like the chinese saying 'Chui Fu Fong Pei'  hmm.gif
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Nah, it is just the same as BMW.


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post Mar 15 2012, 12:22 AM

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I am pleased to see the Executive CVT do not lose much in terms of spec.

It has 2 airbags, portable GPS and in-car internet.

Still, wish can get the Premium spec biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Mar 15 2012, 12:31 AM)
they use smaller displacement
but forgot why...last time stated somewhere here in this section be4
it was when exora bold launched
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http://funtastickodesign.files.wordpress.c...ssue_43_web.pdf

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One fundamental change was a reduction in stroke from 88 mm to 86 mm.  With the retained 76 mm
bore, the swept volume reduced from 1,597 cc to 1,561 cc. This was brought about by the very compact height of the existing iron cylinder block which did not provide enough space to increase the required piston strength or lower the piston crown to achieve the desired compression ratio

The compression ratio was set at 8.9:1, which although relatively low for a modern downsized engine, allows the same hardware to be used for all the target markets including those with 88 RON fuel and very hot climates without excessive retardation

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post Mar 15 2012, 05:44 PM

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Proton has to expand to export market, hence going for EURO 5 is very necessary.

Even India has EURO 4 emission standard (Bharat Stage IV), hence if Proton wants to ensure success, it has to ensure no stones left unturned.
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post Mar 15 2012, 11:30 PM

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http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v6/newsindex.php?id=652573

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P3-21A A Global Car In Many Aspects, Says Proton

KUALA LUMPUR, March 15 (Bernama) -- Proton Holdings Bhd's new model, codenamed P3-21A, is a global car in many aspects, said its Senior Director Operations, Dr Wolfgang Karl Epple.

Epple said this is because experts from all over the world were involved in the processes to develop and design the car.

"We have international benchmark processes such as the simulation. The team that developed the car is also international. We got experts from Italy, France, Germany, Korea, (involved) in the development of the car," he told reporters at Proton's "Power of 1" event at Bukit Jalil Stadium, here Thursday.

The components for the P3-21A also came from various parts of the world including Australia, Europe, Korea and Japan, he said.

Perusahaan Otomobil Nasional Sdn Bhd's Head of Styling, Engineering Division, Azlan Othman said the P3-21A is the result from the collaboration with Italian-based Italdesign Giugiaro, that would bring Proton to the next level in the aspects of design.

-- BERNAMA

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post Mar 16 2012, 12:22 AM

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Very promising biggrin.gif

Looks like if I do get this car, it is either Executive CVT or Premium.
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post Mar 16 2012, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 16 2012, 12:32 AM)
you cant dump the trains
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I intend to drive this car to LRT station for work. Park P3-21A at station, then take LRT to work.

I take LRT and KTM to KL. When the electrified double tracking project reaches Penang, I take ETS to Penang instead of driving. Mid Valley, take KTM better because I do not need to care about car park.

However, there are times that I need a car, especially in suburban area and bringing someone to go out for food hunt.

My life will be same as the German concept of "Auto haben, Bahn fahren" nod.gif

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post Mar 16 2012, 02:43 AM

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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Mar 16 2012, 01:39 AM)
aiyoh, so many ignorance people bashing this car at fb...

is like chatting with monkey doh.gif

better come back to civilized place tongue.gif
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More people booking P3-21A now hmm.gif
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post Mar 16 2012, 02:59 AM

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