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post Feb 15 2012, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(anuarnor @ Feb 15 2012, 07:26 AM)
thumbup.gif Nice info about the CFE engine. I pretty much like 205nm of torque at 2000-4000rpm. And the turbocharger came from Borg-Warner ! At 1500 rpm, the engine already reach 150nm. This is sufficient enough to move the car in the city and should be low in FC. Looking forward for this new car.
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post Feb 15 2012, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 15 2012, 08:58 AM)
most of the part from our local car are from big big companies what.....only the design and assembly are local. and of cos those big big companies opened here and hired local ppl also.
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Doesnt matter where the part comes from. For me, the most important thing is the engine performance and reliability.

Reading this articles from Lotus really shows the performance of the car if you can see the graph. The power that came with it is actually higher than a 2.0 NA engine which IMHO is very good.

It also stated that the engine had been vigorously tested in different climate/altitude.
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post Feb 15 2012, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 15 2012, 09:09 AM)
1.6 turbo of cos more power than 2.0 la....otherwise why turbo? turbo is not cheap you know.

bmw/peugeot 1.6 turbo = torque is equal to 2.4 liter and bhp is equal to 2.0liter car.

this is power.
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Ya lor. Price pun power la.
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post Feb 15 2012, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(jw_92 @ Feb 15 2012, 09:14 AM)
well i guess it sorta helps when you have bmw and peugeot working on it together right? with proton and its budget  sweat.gif
i think from the lotus article it said that they developed the torque to be within the limits of the Punch CVT gearbox and to be more reliable..
otherwise why stop at 138 hp??
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Yerp..i.ve read that the punch CVT cant handle more than 205nm torque. If they use different gearbox, the power might be higher. Cause like you said. It was built within the limit of the gearbox.

But i guess it's better for proton cause now they start to compare with BMW. lol
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post Feb 15 2012, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(stormlcc @ Feb 15 2012, 09:29 AM)
and how much are these cars selling?
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Higher price than proton of course. You get what you pay for!

Higher perfomance engine = more money

But for this CFE engine i think it's more to the limitation of the gearbox.

At least now people are comparing proton's engine with the like of BMW and audi.

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post Feb 20 2012, 02:18 AM

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QUOTE(jimmy.soo @ Feb 19 2012, 05:11 PM)
check this out...

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That's tempting drool.gif
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post Mar 3 2012, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(teelim @ Mar 3 2012, 05:37 AM)
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dumbest comparison EVER!

comparing 0-100 time of a 1.6L Turbo with a 1.6L NA doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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It's a valid comparison. C segment car in the same price range.
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post Mar 4 2012, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(mat79 @ Mar 3 2012, 05:49 PM)
The best story that they shared with me is when they tested p321a mule at sweden at bosch centre for esp and rnh homogolation. They notice some paparazi taking out pictures which were foreigners, n they managed to chat with them, ask them not to reveal the testers face in their mags or blog or etc. To their shock, the picture came out in paultan, which is malaysian blog, make them confius whether malaysians really have foreigners as their paparazi. Luckily their faces are not in the pictures.

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Bro mat, i can only recall spyshot of exora oversea during snow time appearing in PaulTan. Not really sure about the p321a. hmm.gif

updated with link : proton-prototype-spotted-overseas

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post Mar 4 2012, 03:21 AM

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QUOTE(MrssV @ Mar 3 2012, 07:24 PM)
The one in your link is the P3-21A mule was it not? P3-21A is sharing the Exora platform after all.
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Oh..ok. That make sense now. They're both built on the same platform.

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post Mar 4 2012, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Mar 4 2012, 02:35 PM)
The price range of wat ah? The cost price? The selling price? Here in Bolehland or in oversea?
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If you're using price of proton without tax i bet it will still be cheaper than the imported cars of the similar class and price range. Currently T & H are making a lot of profit from selling underspec car in Malaysia yet a lot of them are still buying. I guess the perception of brand is still high among malaysian consumers.
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post Mar 7 2012, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Mar 7 2012, 07:51 AM)
Mercedes Benz B class, base spec. 2 cupholders are a 30 Euro option. In a 27000 Euro car (even in higher specs I'm afraid it's only an option... that being said cupholders aren't that important for Germans).

By disappearing I meant he edited the posts himself... but I wouldn't be surprised if he got a phone call by his boss, telling him that he shouldn't be leaking stuff (I think he also stopped posting after that one).
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What info is that? Mind sharing brows.gif

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post Mar 17 2012, 03:39 AM

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QUOTE(mat79 @ Mar 16 2012, 07:36 PM)

Never seen u oppose other makes about their euro compliance engine. My question is why? :-). Is it everything beside prtn is divine?

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Hi Bro Mat very nice and informative post from you again. thumbup.gif

I've been noticing the same trend lately where there's a lot of negativity if anything that have proton's name on it eventhough proton is now improving in terms of their offering.

It have the reached the level where the makes from Jap is considered as divine and full of technological advancement as people have already make their mind before even looking at the spec sheet. Sigh..

The most obvious is the example you've given about Avanza and what make it more puzzling is i have yet to see the same negativity on other makes even if their cars is low specced.




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post Mar 18 2012, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(deepan84 @ Mar 18 2012, 04:03 PM)
i gonna go book the car this week. but not seeing the car in person before booking, taking a huge gamble. lolz.
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I think don't book first la. At first, i want to book as well but after that think maybe i shud wait until the car fully launch and can see in showroom only then book cause dun know what we're buying.

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post Mar 18 2012, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(iSpace @ Mar 18 2012, 04:27 PM)
Lol.. 75k for a pensonic tv quality. Lucky got ppl pay 75k for panasonic lcd. Barangan buatan malaysia haihz..
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What this car have to do with TV???? Mindfucuk rclxub.gif

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post Mar 18 2012, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 18 2012, 04:49 PM)
New Vios fuse blown, complain Proton quality pulak
Where is the Accord? Oh Savvy is good now? Proton wor
Still talking about Savvy
So sorry to hear that your dad has low income or is a kampung boi.
3rd car? Accord, Vios and weekend car = 3, should be your 4th car already. Or you tipu?
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Lol win there rclxms.gif
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post Mar 19 2012, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 18 2012, 05:01 PM)
And your mom bought your lousy Proton Savvy as an extra car too I suppose.

I scared to meet you la, later you bite me I get rabies.
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lol this is getting funnier..

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