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 Short Review on the Exora Bold

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post May 8 2012, 02:31 AM

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QUOTE(zakinawi @ May 7 2012, 08:06 PM)
i already put 100% mercedes coolant.. the blue colour before overheat.. but still, during normal drive, engine goes overheated.. hohoho...after change cylinder head, proton use the normal green..not 100%, but 70-30.. until now ok lor.. they also said its the cylinder head problem.. not fan or coolant or radiator.. try and check your radiator, when u go back.. if its dry, be ready.. if got water, its ok lor.. just my advice, from a person that have gone through..
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mercedes coolant?
u better becareful on what coolant u use bro
not all coolant is suitable on every radiator...if u put the wrong coolant into the wrong radiator, your radiator is in trouble
if i'm not wrong, there are 2 kind of radiator...when i say that i mean build using 2 kind of material
the coolant that i stated just now are toyota coolant, peregrine coolant and forged racing coolant
toyota coolant(i maybe wrong)..only can be used in 1 kind of radiator...usually japanese ones
peregrine coolant and forged racing coolant are universal coolant..meaning can be used in all kind
other coolant though...better becareful...else you're doing more damage than good
and the ratio..the correct ratio is 50:50...in proton case, 2X 1L coolant + 2L water = 4L radiator capacity
too high ratio of coolant is bad as well becuz coolant is acidic
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post May 8 2012, 07:17 AM

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apa giler letak coolant 100% ? nak engine rosak ke ? flush that shit out and put proton approved coolant with the CORRECT ratio. if not, anything happens to your engine , in the future, they will say warranty void because you did not use proton approved coolant at the correct ratio.
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post May 8 2012, 12:43 PM

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wow, even someone used merc coolant, luckily dont void warranty coz can void actually. Dont ever think using merc coolant means better cooling coz merc used it coz merc coolant is oem, not produced by merc n tested in merc engine, not in malaysia climate. But since being tested in merc engine, not a problem.

Engine if too cool also can cause problem coz pulley is working hard so that u loose power, bad fc n worst case, damage the engine. Too cool or too hot is not good for engine.

Thats why when people said 100% coolant for campro based engine means 100% coolant from the prtn weston based coolant premix with correct concentration, made by oem, tested by prtn, using prtn engine n tested in malaysia climate.

If 4l is needed then need to prepare 4 bottles. This coolant from prtn for campro based engined already tested to maintain the engine at its optimum temperature point, not too cool n not too hot.

Haishhh, if something happened then claim for warranty. But like i said, luckily being entertain, if not, totally void for life on engine. So, becareful next time ok. now i know the culprit of the engine problem case coz previously never mentioned used merc coolant.
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post May 8 2012, 01:15 PM

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just got my bold yesterday rclxms.gif

couple of questions:

1. whistle sound during 70kmh on the driver side
2. grrrrrr sound very noticable yesterday but today tends to be not so noticable but still got sound (player off)
3. klak klak sound ocassionally but hardly noticable while player is on

odo : 150km (need more run-in?)
fuel consumption : 11.7 / 100km

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post May 8 2012, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(akchang @ May 8 2012, 01:15 PM)
just got my bold yesterday  rclxms.gif

couple of questions:

1. whistle sound during 70kmh on the driver side
2. grrrrrr sound very noticable yesterday but today tends to be not so noticable but still got sound (player off)
3. klak klak sound ocassionally but hardly noticable while player is on

odo : 150km (need more run-in?)
fuel consumption : 11.7 / 100km

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congrats on ur new ride and happily control your right foot... icon_idea.gif
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post May 8 2012, 05:38 PM

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aih.. korang tak kena lagi..u can kutuk me all..nanti exora korang kena, berjage jagela..kipas yang slalu on (i mean moooost of the time, lame jugaklah on.. almost 3 minit. can cook meggi, when my car is standard gaban without any MB coolant or whatsoever) lepas enjin berhenti tu pon tanda tanda enjin akn overheat, but just cross your fingers that will not happen. i own a gen2 and saga blm, i tot its normal when the fan is on, but for exora bold, its a sign..just like more than 17 eB owners at proton COSE and 2 person from exora club.. if that happens, welcome to the club of changing cylinder head.. babai allz
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QUOTE(dchk @ May 8 2012, 01:02 AM)
Anyone here own an Exora Prime. I am interested in this variant due to the 2nd row captain seat. Any idea if the captain seat can rotate 360% and can be shifted front or back?
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Almost buy it before decide to buy Bold Premium
The 2nd row captain seat cannot rotate 360 degree but not sure it can shifted front or back? hmm.gif
Prime is awesome man, but only offer absolute brown colour
I support you buy Exora Prime thumbup.gif
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post May 8 2012, 07:42 PM

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^^I support u buy Exora Prime too. Its captain seats cannot rotate or pushed back & forth, if I remember correctly. But overall, good value mpv. If you want swivel seats, only New Starex & Stavic have them.
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QUOTE(akchang @ May 8 2012, 01:15 PM)
just got my bold yesterday  rclxms.gif

couple of questions:

1. whistle sound during 70kmh on the driver side
2. grrrrrr sound very noticable yesterday but today tends to be not so noticable but still got sound (player off)
3. klak klak sound ocassionally but hardly noticable while player is on

odo : 150km (need more run-in?)
fuel consumption : 11.7 / 100km

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Whistle sound on the driver seat? Me too. How to fix this? What SC will do?
Also my driver side external door handle is kind of tight and need extra force to pull and open the door compareto the other handles. Do you havethis problem?
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post May 8 2012, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(ckl1998 @ May 8 2012, 11:27 PM)
Whistle sound on the driver seat? Me too. How to fix this? What SC will do?
Also my driver side external door handle is kind of tight and need extra force to pull and open the door compareto the other handles. Do you havethis problem?
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just buy rubber seal from a guy in this forumer.. stick along the door.. will not hear anymore
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post May 9 2012, 06:42 AM

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QUOTE(ckl1998 @ May 8 2012, 11:27 PM)
Whistle sound on the driver seat? Me too. How to fix this? What SC will do?
Also my driver side external door handle is kind of tight and need extra force to pull and open the door compareto the other handles. Do you havethis problem?
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the handle is ok for me not too tight just nice for me to open.

for the whistling sound it must be due to to poor workmanship. Not sure whether the SC will ever replace them but I'll ask them when 1k service interval

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post May 9 2012, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(zakinawi @ May 8 2012, 05:38 PM)
aih.. korang tak kena lagi..u can kutuk me all..nanti exora korang kena, berjage jagela..kipas yang slalu on (i mean moooost of the time, lame jugaklah on.. almost 3 minit. can cook meggi, when my car is standard gaban without any MB coolant or whatsoever) lepas enjin berhenti tu pon tanda tanda enjin akn overheat, but just cross your fingers that will not happen. i own a gen2 and saga blm, i tot its normal when the fan is on, but for exora bold, its a sign..just like more than 17 eB owners at proton COSE and 2 person from exora club.. if that happens, welcome to the club of changing cylinder head.. babai allz
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They not kutuk u lah bro..just throw what in their mind.
Maybe u've got a lemon but we've should thank you coz u the only one who manage to share all those issues.
But i agreed with them in coolant issue. Any continental car's coolant is different from japs/local cars. Just beware on that. We might hear someone say bmw coolant ok...merc ok..brand a ok..brand b ok..but on safe side better follow the manual or SC advice. Even i put 100% bmw coolant on my previous e36...no problem at all...but it's should be different in this case..don't think so much on that since SC rectified it as cylinder head issue..thanks once again..

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QUOTE(zakinawi @ May 8 2012, 05:38 PM)
aih.. korang tak kena lagi..u can kutuk me all..nanti exora korang kena, berjage jagela..kipas yang slalu on (i mean moooost of the time, lame jugaklah on.. almost 3 minit. can cook meggi, when my car is standard gaban without any MB coolant or whatsoever) lepas enjin berhenti tu pon tanda tanda enjin akn overheat, but just cross your fingers that will not happen. i own a gen2 and saga blm, i tot its normal when the fan is on, but for exora bold, its a sign..just like more than 17 eB owners at proton COSE and 2 person from exora club.. if that happens, welcome to the club of changing cylinder head.. babai allz
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opsss...so u are saying that EB now is having cylinder head issue even in the newly purchased one? is it inherit issue? how to solve it? overhaul engine?? what's the 1st symptom/rpoblem we will faced with this kind of issue?
appreciate your knowledge and experience sharing...
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post May 9 2012, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(zakinawi @ May 8 2012, 05:38 PM)
aih.. korang tak kena lagi..u can kutuk me all..nanti exora korang kena, berjage jagela..kipas yang slalu on (i mean moooost of the time, lame jugaklah on.. almost 3 minit. can cook meggi, when my car is standard gaban without any MB coolant or whatsoever) lepas enjin berhenti tu pon tanda tanda enjin akn overheat, but just cross your fingers that will not happen. i own a gen2 and saga blm, i tot its normal when the fan is on, but for exora bold, its a sign..just like more than 17 eB owners at proton COSE and 2 person from exora club.. if that happens, welcome to the club of changing cylinder head.. babai allz
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bkn diorg kutuk, tp nasihat coz concern nanti u hilang u punya warranty. Tp xnak ikut, xperlah. Isilah aper2pun, kereta memasing, hak memasing. Xda org lain ader kuasa. Yg pasal kipas pusing tuh, mmg ada feature tuh, tp xdala setiap kali, ikut keadaan. Klu bleh nyebab overheat, sbb coolat x flow ngan betul@coolant terlebih@kurang dlm reserve. Tujuan fan tuh nak prevent overheating.

Tp xpelah, jgn cpt melenting. Org syg ke dia bg nasihat supaya warranti xvoid. Klu disalah tafsir,ikutlah. K, chow.
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QUOTE(mat79 @ May 9 2012, 12:03 PM)
bkn diorg kutuk, tp nasihat coz concern nanti u hilang u punya warranty. Tp xnak ikut, xperlah. Isilah aper2pun, kereta memasing, hak memasing. Xda org lain ader kuasa. Yg pasal kipas pusing tuh, mmg ada feature tuh, tp xdala setiap kali, ikut keadaan. Klu bleh nyebab overheat, sbb coolat x flow ngan betul@coolant terlebih@kurang dlm reserve. Tujuan fan tuh nak prevent overheating.

Tp xpelah, jgn cpt melenting. Org syg ke dia bg nasihat supaya warranti xvoid. Klu disalah tafsir,ikutlah. K, chow.
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Mat my car also very frequent the fan will on after I turn off the engine... coolant is proton recommend one. does this mean my car cylinder head also need to be replaced?
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Hearing everyone complaining issues on Exora, I am a little worried now. I thought they have already sorted out their problems, but it looks like they still remain. No one has any good experience driving their Exora.
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QUOTE(dchk @ May 9 2012, 12:48 PM)
Hearing everyone complaining issues on Exora, I am a little worried now. I thought they have already sorted out their problems, but it looks like they still remain. No one has any good experience driving their Exora.
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I got no problem with my car .... (touch wood) I just see this thread say if frequent fan on after engine off might be due to cylinder head. So I mah ask lor... Mine is first batch anyway...
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post May 9 2012, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(diablos @ May 9 2012, 12:10 PM)
Mat my car also very frequent the fan will on after I turn off the engine... coolant is proton recommend one. does this mean my car cylinder head also need to be replaced?
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1st, need to take note if ur car already reach high mileage, when flushing the coolant, need to top up the coolant using premix that already available in prtn, n please, dont add any additional water@tap water coz its already premix in the bottle. And it supposed to be 4 bottles.

About the fan always spinning, ask sc to check the coolant level at the reserve(hopefully never add any water before), check the boiling point n coolant flow. If everything ok, then its not a problem. Many things its normal to have fan spinning frequently, but the miss understand it. When it still new, of course since the engine is still tight n new. But when achieve maybe around 5k-10km, it not supposed to have frequent fan spinning for campro based engine coz its already matured n all cooling already been efficiently distributed, only once a while(which means rarely) u have the fan spinning,like driving at high speed in the afternoon or driving up to genting. In the afternoon, or keep idling too long in the afternoon.

The features is available to all campro based engined and renault based engined, for prevention, not features that always on. When people said its normal to habe frequent fan spinning on their campros means that there is something wrong with their cooling systems, and normally due to adding water to reserve@main radiator, coolant below minimum level, leakage, coolant above minimum level also dangerous coz not enaugh air to circulate the coolant, n using wrong type of coolant n wrong concentration of coolant.

Like i said before, coolant for each car is unique coz its not too cool the engine, but maintaining the engine boiling point to optimum level so that wont be too cool or too hot.

It also has anti rust component to keep ur radiator in healthy condition.

If there is prob, need to solve the cooling part n then go to the engine part if worst case come in.
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post May 9 2012, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(akchang @ May 9 2012, 06:42 AM)
the handle is ok for me not too tight just nice for me to open.

for the whistling sound it must be due to to poor workmanship. Not sure whether the SC will ever replace them but I'll ask them when 1k service interval
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Anyone replace the EB door before due to whistling sound?
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rip out the visor..whistling gone,,,

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