So far, we have:
@wisdomtot
@DrPitchard
@MakeYouHappy
@mykpin88
@MoneyMaker prince
@edwinliong
@TheJake
@edwinliong
@vince_87
@xXwasabiXx
@Seng_Kiat

If we are big and loud enough, I truly believe that we will be able to rock them, just like what dissatisfied VW owners have done when they all came together.

Let's have our first meet up soonest, and from there, I believe we will have a much clearer direction on where we would want to head as a group of consumers who want their voices heard. Next Sat, 4th Oct 2014, good?

http://motoring-malaysia.blogspot.com/2014...et-up-with.html
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Vw-Dsg-7-Def...306447496142735

This post has been edited by DrPitchard: Sep 23 2014, 09:03 PM

1). SA.
2). Lawyer firm.
3). Mortgage representative.
4). Insider from OSK.

Pandai-pandai la... U know what I meant. Lol

I understand. But if u know that u r at losing end. If just to ruin its sales and knowing it wilk not reverse back then what is the point? Why ruin the project that u invested or ur future home. Sales affect affect cashflow. Cashflow affect paymnet. Payment late affect contractor. Contractor affects quality. Or worse case. Ur complain is so effective that ruin whole proj and it get abandon becoz no cashflow to run it. Who is at the losing side? If it change the block u purchased A they give u B then it is reasonable to make big fuss of it. If masterplan change also wanna ruin the project i think it is just not economically benefit anyone. Also, OSK could have realised hotel may not work well as ciber mayhave enough hotels in place? Maybe OSK can give a clear reason to buyers. Thats all. Not point to make big ho ha.

This post has been edited by propertybbb: Sep 23 2014, 09:13 PM

Compromise; just accept it; that's general msian mindset.
Nobody ask u to ruin the project at the first place. Form a group of buyers to do close door meeting with osk for a win win discussion first.
Master plan of course can be changed. Only to the benefits of buyers, not to the pocket of developer without a good reason.
Worry abt big developer like OSK? Lol I think u better worry abt yourself first.

You spot on!

If we can get extra 10%-20% discount for early buyers would be good enough for me though. .

since when OSK is big developer?

osk mid sized la but got brand name one..now all tarnished mus make people know before emira open for sales

If you visit www.pangaea.com.my you will see that the previously planned Hotel/Office Suites are now marked as Residential Suites... AND the previously planned mall is now marked as "future retail development". Looks like the masterplan has changed quite a lot. Pangaea might just become a cluster of residential apartments.

yes but if u see Emiras thread..someone thr says osk staff said tht d hotel n mall are in phase 5 rather. but is not sure wthr he can trust d SA or not

wa.. even the Gallery mall they are going to scrap it?

i rather not trust the SA.

yeah after hearing about Sutera Damansara.. i also won't trust them with integrated developments..

Actually, what's the point of creating so big hooha? Complain can lah, but nothing we can do.

Frankly, the mall development is much more important. As for hotel, it's a tough to get a hotel operator unless OSK want to set up hospitality division on their own. Break even takes longer time for hotel business model, hence selling as residential suites ala hotel is probably best.

true also.. hotel can't add a lot of value to the project.. office and mall help the most.

I'm a buyer of Solstice and I'm also very concerned that OSK has stripped off or down the hotel, shopping mall and greenery streetmall. So I called the OSK HQ and spoke to Mr Lim Kian Hock who is the Sales & Marketing Manager (kianhock.lim@oskp.com.my). He explained that Phase 4 will be Kepler instead of the hotel towers. The hotel towers with some residences will be launched in Phase 5 together with the mall, just that it won't be a shopping mall but a street mall. My concerns are:-

1) The shopping mall will be stripped down to just a street mall.
2) More residences are launched which will compete with Solstice & Eclipse.
3) Will the nice greenery and landscaping we see on the initial masterplan be compromised or stripped away?

OSK is facing an impending bad publicity stint which will affect their reputation for hyping up their sales pitch with false representation that deviate very far from their promises. And they are doing very little as of now to explain to existing buyers about those major critical changes they are making to the masterplan.

I have told Mr Lim that at the very least they should organise a conference to address these issues to existing buyers. And he will conveyed to the management. I have a feeling they will take their own sweet time to organise this.

We need to put more pressure to OSK HQ. Another name you can refer your greviances to is Mr Chee Kok Keong who is the AGM of Sales and Marketing.

This post has been edited by freetransgressor: Sep 24 2014, 10:44 AM

You might be right, but I look at a different perspective. By building a hotel, OSK will have to ensure that the entire development is good quality and attractive enough to lure hotel operators to come. Without the hotel and mall, basically they just build and sell the developments.

What Im more concern is their commitment in making Pangaea a successful development. Not just the build residential and shoplot, sell out and take the money.

Just my opinion.

Imagine replacing hotel with another one thousand residential units. This will lead to gluts of units supply, price war for buyers-both rental and sub-sale. This has not even taken into account access road design to cater for peak hours etc. Though hotel may not add much value directly, but the drawbacks of being replaced by residential units far outweigh it.

ya in the website now only state the 3 condo's plus SOFO or wtv the nice building is..
majority of the buyers here investors ah?

Freetransgressor.. join our group ? Once we have a big number, we certainly can get osk to sit up and listen. We are afterall, ambassadors of osk project as their buyers.

Yea sure. But I would urge those feeling uneasy about the change of masterplan to write in to Mr Lim at kianhock.lim@oskp.com.my and highlight your concerns. So they can set up a meeting with existing buyers and communicate properly these changes.