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Investment PAN'GAEA - PARAGON | SOLSTICE | ECLIPSE [OT], The Cyberjaya city centre living by OSK

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wisdomtot
post Sep 26 2014, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(khng07 @ Sep 26 2014, 05:05 PM)
I have wrote an email to Mr.Chee this is his answer:-

I noted on your concern. We are in midst of exploring the best option in terms of development composition in particularly for phase 5. All components within the mixed development will be maintained for phase 5 including hotel, lifestyle retail, office and communal park........

They still not understanding that what we concern are the changing of the master plan will affect the traffic of that property and the living environment also be very difference.....
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It's ludicrous to read they are still exploring options, but when they sold to us, they were confidently convincing us of this project, even with brochures clearly stating what will be developed. If they aren't sure in the first place, they should mark the plot of land as 'future development'.
The way I look at it, they are clearly getting rid of dev plans which require them to have long term ties e.g managing hotels operators and mall. By selling as retail, once sold, it becomes owners' responsibilities. Clearly their commitment to make this project successful is questionable.

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post Sep 26 2014, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(khng07 @ Sep 26 2014, 05:05 PM)
Hi Freetransgressor,

I have wrote an email to Mr.Chee this is his answer:-

I noted on your concern. We are in midst of exploring the best option in terms of development composition in particularly for phase 5. All components within the mixed development will be maintained for phase 5 including hotel, lifestyle retail, office and communal park........

They still not understanding that what we concern are the changing of the master plan will affect the traffic of that property and the living environment also be very difference.....
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how big is the remaining land to include the hotel, retails, offices and the central park?
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post Sep 26 2014, 10:34 PM

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moral of the story
Never trust a company that dealing with stock market and ventured to property development.
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post Sep 26 2014, 11:10 PM

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Solstice + paragon + eclipse if fully sold should have at least 1832 owner, enough to crush the whole OSK show room d la, but i wonder where are the peeps. I afraid they are still cover in the dark.
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post Sep 27 2014, 12:20 AM

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Was wonder if we are able to lodge a complaint to any authorities for breach of what they have promised initially when they are in selling Solstice.

Damn to the max.

However, was wonder what we can do, since there is no best legislated protection for home buyer in Malaysia, as developer can always change their master plan as they wish....
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post Sep 27 2014, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(MakeYouHappy @ Sep 23 2014, 05:03 PM)
I think Facebook group is a good idea since Pangaea doesn't have a buyer group yet. We need to gather as many owners of Paragon, Solstice, Eclipse as soon as we can to ensure our voice be heard.
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What I think if we are setting up a facebook page, then we gather all the Pangaea home buyers together, will be easier, as I think not all of them might be aware thru lowyat.

However, any events which to voice out our dissatisfaction, count me in.......
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post Sep 27 2014, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Sep 27 2014, 05:16 PM)
What I think if we are setting up a facebook page, then we gather all the Pangaea home buyers together, will be easier, as I think not all of them might be aware thru lowyat.

However, any events which to voice out our dissatisfaction, count me in.......
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Already have 1, please pm drpitchard.
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post Sep 28 2014, 01:25 AM

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pity the buyers of this project, shall remind myself nt to buy anything in the future from OSK..
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post Sep 28 2014, 03:02 AM

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it is quite shocking to know how irresponsible a developer can be, despite being quite a reputable company. this is nothing short of lying to its buyers by great promises earlier while changing it later.

i wonder why did they want to embroil themselves in such PR disaster...
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post Sep 28 2014, 02:45 PM

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I am one of the buyer for solstice, count me in!! very disappointed, I bought it because of the concept and shopping mall, if master plan change, no shopping more, no attractive point for Pangaea project.
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post Sep 28 2014, 02:52 PM

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me too. we stand together !

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post Sep 28 2014, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(Offshoreyoboy @ Sep 27 2014, 10:01 PM)
Already have 1, please pm drpitchard.
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Hi all, I am new to lowyatnet, as such, not really familiar how to pm drpitchard to join the fb, can u guide me how should i join u guys? sorry ya
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post Sep 28 2014, 06:27 PM

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Went to their Sales Gallery today. The salesgirl told me the same story that OSK still "try" to maintain its original planned components. The "said Hotel" will relocate to the current Salas Gallery area. I told her that I bought the Duplex because of the Concept and the View. One thing for sure that they will not build the 'blue dome' or Gallery in future.
We should gather as schedule and show our unity so as to make it clear that the buyers still have something to say.
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post Sep 28 2014, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(Maneki-neko @ Sep 24 2014, 08:13 PM)
Feel sorry to hear about the change of the master plan.

In deed, as a visionary and responsible company, CREDIBILITY and INTEGRITY are the main values so that the company can continue to grow further and continued successful in long run. OSK Property certainly have lost these 2 great values if they fail to deliver what is being promised to the home owners. Wonder what are the company core values in OSKP.

To OSK Leader - u may need 10 years or longer time to build the company's credibility, but u only need 1 day to easily destroy the company's reputation.
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post Sep 28 2014, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(Offshoreyoboy @ Sep 27 2014, 10:01 PM)
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sweat.gif sweat.gif I also bought one duplex " Solstice" svc apt.. how to join FB ?? sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Sep 28 2014, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(fishkoi @ Sep 28 2014, 06:27 PM)
Went to their Sales Gallery today. The salesgirl told me the same story that OSK still "try" to maintain its original planned components. The "said Hotel" will relocate to the current Salas Gallery area. I told her that I bought the Duplex because of the Concept and the View. One thing for sure that they will not build the 'blue dome' or Gallery in future.
We should gather as schedule and show our unity so as to make it clear that the buyers still have something to say.
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I would think that the Gallery is much more important than the hotels.

One would be more keen to stay in Pangaea if there's a shopping mall conveniently available few steps away.
Hotel doesn't attract people to stay nearby. sweat.gif

Further, the most exquisite architecture/facade in the overall masterplan are the hotel/office tower and the Gallery.
Without both, doesn't it look normal like other blocks of condos?

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From their website, it doesn't seem like they would consider the hotel at all.

This is their initial plan:
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This is their revised plan:
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There's no hotel. I'm not sure if those are just sweet talk saying that hotel would be in the next phase. tongue.gif

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post Sep 28 2014, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(den @ Sep 28 2014, 08:15 PM)
From their website, it doesn't seem like they would consider the hotel at all.

This is their initial plan:
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This is their revised plan:
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There's no hotel. I'm not sure if those are just sweet talk saying that hotel would be in the next phase.  tongue.gif
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wow you can sue developer for changing from hotel to residence, hence you have an evidence but developer wont change their mind for upcoming new kepler. Is a huge downpour into the drain doh.gif
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post Sep 28 2014, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(den @ Sep 28 2014, 08:49 PM)
I would think that the Gallery is much more important than the hotels.

One would be more keen to stay in Pangaea if there's a shopping mall conveniently available few steps away.
Hotel doesn't attract people to stay nearby. sweat.gif

Further, the most exquisite architecture/facade in the overall masterplan are the hotel/office tower and the Gallery.
Without both, doesn't it look normal like other blocks of condos?
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Indeed.
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post Sep 28 2014, 10:06 PM

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When would the mall start the construction?

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