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post Mar 20 2011, 04:16 PM, updated 15y ago

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Liverpool Football Club



Founded: 1892

Founded by: John Houlding

Nickname: The Reds

Ground : Anfield

Chairman:
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Manager/Caretaker :
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The History


1959 - Shankly appointed manager

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December 1st 1959 is a date that will forever be etched in the annals of Anfield history. For it was on this day that Liverpool Football Club announced Huddersfield Town boss Bill Shankly would be their new manager in succession to Phil Taylor.


On his appointment he released 24 players and began to reshape the team.Promotion to the First Division was achieved in 1961–62, and the club won the League for the first time in 17 years in 1963–64. Another League title followed in 1965–66, after the club had won their first FA Cup the previous season. The club won the League and UEFA Cup in 1972–73 and the FA Cup again a year later; after this, Shankly retired and was replaced by his assistant Bob Paisley.Paisley was even more successful than Shankly and the club won the League and UEFA Cup in 1975–76, his second season as manager. The following season they retained the League title, won the European Cup for the first time, but lost in the FA Cup final, narrowly missing out on a treble. Liverpool retained the European Cup the next season, and the season after won the League again with 68 points—a domestic record, conceding only 16 goals in 42 league matches.During the nine seasons Paisley managed the club, Liverpool won 21 trophies, including three European Cups, a UEFA Cup, six league titles and three consecutive League Cups. The only domestic trophy to elude him was the FA Cup.

Paisley retired in 1983 and (as Shankly had done) handed the reins to his assistant, veteran coach Joe Fagan. The succession of coaches came from the Anfield Boot Room where the Liverpool staff discussed strategy and allegedly stored gin.[10] Liverpool won three trophies in Fagan's first season in charge: the League, League Cup and European Cup, becoming the first English side to win three trophies in a season.Liverpool reached the European Cup final again in 1985. The match was against Juventus at the Heysel Stadium. Before kick-off, disaster struck: Liverpool fans breached a fence which separated the two groups of supporters and charged the Juventus fans. The resulting weight of people caused a retaining wall to collapse, killing 39 fans, mostly Italians. The match was played regardless and Liverpool lost 1–0 to Juventus. English clubs were consequently banned from participating in European competition for five years; Liverpool received a ten-year ban, which was later reduced to six years. Fourteen of their fans received convictions for involuntary manslaughter.
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Fagan resigned after the disaster and Kenny Dalglish was appointed as player-manager.During his reign, the club won another three League Championships and two FA Cups, including a League and Cup "Double" in 1985–86. Liverpool's success was overshadowed by the Hillsborough Disaster: in an FA Cup semi-final against Nottingham Forest on 15 April 1989, hundreds of Liverpool fans were crushed. 94 fans died that day; the 95th victim died in hospital from his injuries four days later, and the 96th died nearly four years later without regaining consciousness. After the Hillsborough tragedy there was a governmental review of stadium safety. Known as the Taylor Report, it paved the way for legislation which required top-division teams to have all-seater stadiums. The report ruled that the main reason for the disaster was overcrowding due to a failure of police control.Dalglish cited the Hillsborough Disaster and its repercussions as the reason for his resignation in 1991. He was replaced by former player Graeme Souness. Apart from winning the FA Cup in 1992, Souness achieved little success and was replaced by a former member of the "Boot Room", Roy Evans. Evans fared little better: a League Cup victory in 1995 was his only trophy. Gérard Houllier was appointed as co-manager in 1998–99, but was left in sole charge after Evans resigned in November 1998.

In his second season in charge Liverpool won a unique treble of the FA Cup, League Cup and UEFA Cup.In the 2001-02 season, during which Houllier underwent major heart surgery, Liverpool finished second behind Arsenal.The following seasons failed to live up to expectations and Houllier was replaced by Rafael Benítez. The club finished fifth in his first season in charge but won the UEFA Champions League by beating Milan 3–2 in a penalty shootout after the match finished 3–3.The following season Liverpool finished third with 82 points—their highest total since 1988. They won the FA Cup as they had the Champions League victory the previous season, by beating West Ham United in penalty shootout after the match finished at 3–3. In 2006–07, the club's search for investment came to an end when American businessmen George Gillett and Tom Hicks became the owners of Liverpool in a deal which valued the club and its outstanding debts at £218.9 million. That season, the club reached another Champions League final, but this time lost 2–1 to Milan
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Liverpool Squad 2010/2011


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Top Scorers For

BPL:
Steven Gerrard 2
David N'Gog 1
Fernando Torres 1

Europa League:

David N'Gog 5
Joe Cole 1
Lucas Leiva 1
Steven Gerrard 1
Ryan Babel 1
Dirk Kuyt 1

Carling Cup :

David N'Gog 1
Milan Jovanovic 1

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Liverpool FC 2010/2011 Fixtures


July 2010

17 Jul 2010 Friendly Al-Hilal A 18:00 [canceled due to flooded pitch]
21 Jul 2010 Friendly G'hopper A 18:30 [0-0]
24 Jul 2010 Friendly K'slautern A 15:15 [0-2]


August 2010
1 Aug 2010 Friendly Borussia M A 13:30 [1-0]
15 Aug 2010 Barclays Premier League Arsenal H [1-1] -David N'Gog
23 Aug 2010 Barclays Premier League Man City A 20:00 [3-0]
28 Aug 2010 Barclays Premier League WBA H 15:00 [1-0] -Fernando Torres


September 2010
12 Sep 2010 Barclays Premier League Birmingham A 16:00 [0-0]
19 Sep 2010 Barclays Premier League Man United A 13:30 [3-2] -Steven Gerrard x2
25 Sep 2010 Barclays Premier League Sunderland H 15:00

October 2010
2 Oct 2010 Barclays Premier League Blackpool H 15:00
17 Oct 2010 Barclays Premier League Everton A 13:30
23 Oct 2010 Barclays Premier League Blackburn H 15:00
31 Oct 2010 Barclays Premier League Bolton A 13:30

November 2010
7 Nov 2010 Barclays Premier League Chelsea H 16:00
10 Nov 2010 Barclays Premier League Wigan A 19:45
13 Nov 2010 Barclays Premier League Stoke City A 17:30
20 Nov 2010 Barclays Premier League West Ham H 17:30
28 Nov 2010 Barclays Premier League Tottenham A 16:00

December 2010
4 Dec 2010 Barclays Premier League Villa H 15:00
11 Dec 2010 Barclays Premier League N'castle A 15:00
18 Dec 2010 Barclays Premier League Fulham H 15:00
26 Dec 2010 Barclays Premier League Blackpool A 15:00
28 Dec 2010 Barclays Premier League Wolves H 15:00

January 2011
1 Jan 2011 Barclays Premier League Bolton H 15:00
5 Jan 2011 Barclays Premier League Blackburn A 20:00
15 Jan 2011 Barclays Premier League Everton H 15:00
22 Jan 2011 Barclays Premier League Wolves A 15:00

February 2011
2 Feb 2011 Barclays Premier League Stoke City H 20:00
5 Feb 2011 Barclays Premier League Chelsea A 15:00
12 Feb 2011 Barclays Premier League Wigan H 15:00
26 Feb 2011 Barclays Premier League West Ham A 15:00

March 2011
5 Mar 2011 Barclays Premier League Man United H 15:00
19 Mar 2011 Barclays Premier League Sunderland A 15:00

April 2011
2 Apr 2011 Barclays Premier League WBA A 15:00
10 Apr 2011 Barclays Premier League Man City H 15:00
16 Apr 2011 Barclays Premier League Arsenal A 15:00
23 Apr 2011 Barclays Premier League Birmingham H 15:00
30 Apr 2011 Barclays Premier League N'castle H 15:00

May 2011
7 May 2011 Barclays Premier League Fulham A 15:00
15 May 2011 Barclays Premier League Tottenham H 15:00
22 May 2011 Barclays Premier League Villa A 16:00
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The Quotes


Roy Hodgson



Journalists suggested to Hodgson that he had arrived at the club ahead of a pivotal season. Again the tactician was philosophical.

"Every day I drive into the training ground I see the year 1892," he said. "In two years' time the club will be 120 years old. I won't get involved in discussions about pivotal seasons. I realise you people have got to do that because every day's pivotal in your promotion of the news.

"If you don't mind, I'll take the 120-year view. There'll be plenty more games to be played and titles to be won."


Reporters quizzed Hodgson on whether he was envious of the financial clout available to City boss Mancini.

But the boss replied: "I'm never jealous. I am in a position I want to be in.

"I am working for a club I have always wanted to work for, and I think it is for other people to be jealous of me - not for me to be jealous of other people.

"It would be very, very sad if someone as fortunate as I have been in my career starts getting jealous of other people."

Rafa Benitez
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Xabi Alonso

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Reina


from Martin O'Neill after 0-1 defeat against Reds

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"Their keeper made a great save in each half, particularly the one from Stewart Downing - it was a great, great save. And then there was the one from Gabby later on. We had two go inches past the post too.


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REDS AROUND THE WORLD: MALAYSIA
Jonno Lim, Malaysia 13 January 2009

Meet 32-year-old events manager Jonno Lim, who helps run an independent supporters’ club and gets up at the crack of dawn to catch the Reds in action with hundreds of other fans in a crowded Malaysian bar.
Like most things, my association with the Malaysian independent supporters' club started with a few beers. After meeting on the fans' forum Red and White Kop (RAWK), we decided that as there were a fair number of us Reds in the same corner of the world, the least we could do was watch a game together in a bar.

Liverpool ran home 3-0 winners over Everton at Goodison Park that day in August 2003, with Michael Owen scoring a brace and Harry Kewell getting the third goal just before the final whistle.

Having supported the club from afar for so long, it felt very special to be enjoying a Liverpool victory with a few like-minded people. I had watched the Reds with friends before, but nothing like this. Even the owner of the Boardwalk on the outskirts of Kuala Lumpur was a Reds fanatic, so it became known as the closest thing any Malaysian Red could get to the special Anfield atmosphere.

There are so many Liverpool fans in this part of the world, and they all have their own story to tell. Some adopt the Reds because of their history, others simply get drawn in by the miracle of Istanbul in 2005 or the breathtaking 'Gerrard Final' of 2006.


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The only reason I can offer for following the Reds is probably quite similar to most people's - all of my family are massive Liverpool fans. It goes way back to the seventies and beyond, so it was a no-brainer for me to be the same as them.

My earliest memory is of Michael Thomas and Ian Rush securing the FA Cup for Liverpool with great goals against Sunderland at Wembley in 1992. I can also vividly remember Neil 'Razor' Ruddock holding his head after scoring a late equaliser in the dramatic 3-3 draw with Manchester United in January 1994.

Nigel Clough scored twice that day, but the look on Ruddock's face will remain with me forever - the ball hit him on the top of his head before going in the net and he seemed in quite a lot of pain while celebrating his decisive goal at Anfield. I couldn't stop laughing.

As time went by, my Liverpool obsession grew. We experienced many joyous Saturday and Sunday nights at the Boardwalk over the years and celebrated many great Liverpool victories there. But our friend, Bala, soon told us he had to sell his bar and we were left with nowhere to watch our beloved Reds during the early hours of the morning over here in Malaysia.

And when the new owner of the Boardwalk told us they would not be opening for the 2007 Champions League final clash with AC Milan due to the fact it would be kicking off at 3.30am over here, we knew that we had to act quickly to find a new venue.

After a long and frustrating search, we finally found a small pub that would open for the match. We got in touch with our friends and fellow supporters to join us for the big game, as we knew that whenever Liverpool was involved in a big European game, it was guaranteed to be something special.


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We only really expected about 50 people to turn up at the most, but the bar ended up being crammed full with about 200 fans, all screaming at the screen, willing on the Reds. We were all disappointed that Rafa's men did not win that night in Athens, but a few of us knew right then that not only did we need a bigger venue, but also a proper fan club to bring all of these Liverpool supporters together.

We called our new supporters' club 'MyRAWK', as most of us had met through RAWK, while the ‘My’ stands for Malaysia and also gives us a sense that a certain part of LFC can belong to us individually.

Things were tough at the beginning, but settling on the M Bar as our exclusive home for watching all the games helped us a lot. The owner agreed to open up at all the unsociable hours involved in supporting a club many miles away and laid on a host of generous drinks offers.

What started as a small MyRAWK blog soon turned into a full website, and before long we had Liverpool fans joining us from all over for our match-viewing parties. From local lawyers to homesick expats, tourists to ex players (Ian Rush once even joined us - that was a very special day), the M Bar is now full of fervent fans week in, week out. I usually take up the microphone at each event and am always proud to be the official master of ceremonies.

We even have our futsal team and are also in the process of setting up a full 11-a side side. Our interim team recently won our first trophy, the Christmas Cup and one day we hope to have a proper team which takes part in the local social league.

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But due to the exchange rate and distance, not many of us have been lucky enough to get over to Anfield. I am currently saving up to make the pilgrimage one day next season with a few other fans. I'm sure that once we get up close to Liverpool's hallowed home, there will be many of us who will be close to tears, as this would be nothing short of our visiting our very own Mecca.

One of our newer members, Phil, who now lives in Liverpool, always talks about how unbelievable it is that a bunch of guys who have never seen the Reds play up close can wake up in the middle of the night to support a team who are playing nearly 7,000 miles away, only to go back to bed and rise for work less than two hours later.

But none of us at MyRAWK would have it any other way. Witnessing another Liverpool victory make all the long, sleepy days in the office after a match worth it - and believe you me, there have been a lot of those in recent years.

Jonno was speaking to Joe Curran

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Match Highlights


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Summer Transfer In and Out



IN:

- Player In - Team
- Brad Jones - Middlesbrough
- Christian Poulsen - Juventus
- Fabio Aurelio - Unattached
- Danny Wilson - Rangers
-Joe Cole - Unattached
-Jonjo Shelvey - Charlton Athletic
-Milan Jovanovic - Standard Liege
-Raul Meireles - Porto

OUT:


- Player Out - Team
- Alberto Aquilani - Juventus
- Phillip Degen - VfB Stuttgart
-Alberto Riera - Olympiakos
- Yossi Benayoun - Chelsea
- Mikel San Jose - Athletic Bilbao
-Robbie Threlfall - Bradford City
-David Martin -MK Dons

New season, bring it on !!!

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Sunderland TONIGHT!!! Let's start posting biggrin.gif
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Just hope that they can capitalize on Spurs dropping point. But more importantly the team play more fluid.
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Definitely! hahaha. Arsenal unable to beat West Brom last night. Sighhh
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wtf...this thread has been closed...hahahha
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our defense should be careful of Gyan and Wellback.

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QUOTE(eugene_tan6 @ Mar 20 2011, 09:48 AM)
I'm telling you, with suarez around. Liverpool is in a whole different level. M.U couldn't keep us with us. I doubt arsenal can. tongue.gif
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lets hope that will be the case tonight. With Suarez playing, Liverpool will have more dimension during attack and as a creative provider.

QUOTE(REDShaun @ Mar 20 2011, 10:49 AM)
I'm actually wondering if Kenny would start Andy for this or would he stick with Kuyt and Suarez upfront. Without Stevie G, I am thinking Kuyt will now play right with Andy upfront and Suarez just behind him.

I wonder who would make the bombing runs from the left. Well I guess I'll just have to see it tonight to enjoy it.

Damn I am still so excited about the match. Always loved the way Sunderland defends. Break them down and you have a chance to break many a wall  flex.gif

oh and grats on the 10man M.U. win, credit given where credit is due  blush.gif
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Yeah. Bramble will marshall sunderland defence. If Carroll play then Bramble will have his hand full.

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I really can't wait to watch the game!

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Wondering if there is any chance of Carrol starting tonight... Saw Kenny warned FC of risking Carrol for international matches...So, wondering if Carrol's fitness is actually ok....
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hai guise what time we playing tonight?
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How come Liverpool fans club always fail to update the time of matches? I see other FC manage to update their match time and scoreline instantly. It would be very much appreciated if the time and the scoreline were updated consistently.
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@kamkamparadise : Even my dad's as a M.U supporter says, anybody bound to play with liverpool is gonna have a hard time and that's when suarez is around. I guess Suarez is the main man that'll make the difference for us through the final leg of the season. Don't rule carroll out either. I'm excited to see how they combo up tonight. Can't wait. I'm hoping for greatness.
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SUNDERLAND VS LIVERPOOL
ESPN (CH812) & ESPN HD (CH832) 9.25 pm LIVE
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post Mar 20 2011, 04:58 PM

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So tonight we finally get to see the combo of Suarez + Carroll. Carroll flicks it to suarez or Suarez flies past defenders and send that telling cross to Carroll to head towards goal. Can't wait!
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we will start with Suarez and Carroll

number 7 and number 9

its been a while we hav this 2 numbers playing together

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meanwhile, my take for tonite

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Carra------Agger--Soto-----Johnson

-----Spearing---------Lucas---------

Kuyt----------Meireles--------Suarez

---------------Carroll---------------

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i really hope we can win tonight.. 1-0 is ok..
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QUOTE(digilife @ Mar 20 2011, 05:39 PM)
we will start with Suarez and Carroll

number 7 and number 9

its been a while we hav this 2 numbers playing together

go buy 7799, permutate one buck for Kuda Magnum and Toto thumbup.gif

meanwhile, my take for tonite

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Carra------Agger--Soto-----Johnson

-----Spearing---------Lucas---------

Kuyt----------Meireles--------Suarez

---------------Carroll---------------
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Agger is fit again?!
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QUOTE(eugene_tan6 @ Mar 20 2011, 06:53 PM)
Agger is fit again?!
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we need him badly as Skrtel really sucks doh.gif

tats my wish list anyway, KD might not approve tongue.gif
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QUOTE(digilife @ Mar 20 2011, 07:02 PM)
we need him badly as Skrtel really sucks doh.gif

tats my wish list anyway, KD might not approve tongue.gif
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Cant stand skrtel.Always pulling opponents shirts and unnecessary fouls.

About our lb problem?is coentrao good? it was on somewhere that he's a liverpool fan.
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QUOTE(digilife @ Mar 20 2011, 07:02 PM)
we need him badly as Skrtel really sucks doh.gif

tats my wish list anyway, KD might not approve tongue.gif
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Man, I miss kelly and agger. Kelly's sprint from the back helped us so much. Would've been a different outcome against braga if kelly was playing. Not to mention gerrard's presence, vision and ability to blow your freaking mind. tongue.gif
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Kelly is exceptionally good whereas Wilson is still fresh

Why dun KD try out Flanagan doh.gif

Skrtel hav to go, Agger is good and Soto should be given another season because of his built and height.

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KD should've tried pacheco too. Don't know what's on KD's mind hahaha.

Yeah, kelly is super good! Wilson is picking up match by match I guess. He performed well at the end of the second leg when braga went into full defense mode. Skrtel always makes a blunder =.=. Soto is a good defender and his foul cost us to fall out to EL but who doesn't make mistakes.
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Agger is good or perhaps our best defender, but unfortunately he's only available once in a month.
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Agger is good or perhaps our best defender, but unfortunately he's only available once in a month.
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i think lately skrtel done not bad for defending...how many goal we conceded in last few match??only our attacking part have problem...lack of pace & creativity
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hope no beach ball disturbs this time.....can't wait to taste suarez and caroll's combo....reds for the win!
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hope no beach ball disturbs this time.....can't wait to taste suarez and caroll's combo....reds for the win!
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Added on March 20, 2011, 8:40 pmThe Reds XI in full is: Reina, Johnson, Carragher, Agger, Skrtel, Spearing, Lucas, Meireles, Suarez, Kuyt, Carroll. Subs: Gulacsi, Kyrgiakos, Wilson, Cole, Maxi, Poulsen, Ngog.

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confirmed line-up?
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how do you watch this?
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the game its not even started yet,i just want to search for english stream first
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for those looking for streams, do bookmark the following site. It will list almost all possible streaming alternative available for each BPL matches on every Matchday.

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really bad lost 2 players under 30 mins
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Tbh, I think it was outside the box but I'd take that anytime.
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Caroll got yelled at by Suarez for not passing the ball back to him (in which we could have scored)


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its not our fault

blame the linesman,but be gratefu that we're leading 1-0
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when other team received that kind of favors..dun simply say ppl bought ref or influence decision too
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carrol is rubbish....always trying to head every ball he got...rubbish possesion
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of course he is. we watched like 2 games where he started.
D: ain't it too early to judge
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carrol is rubbish....always trying to head every ball he got...rubbish possesion
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last year they got the beach ball..this time we got the penalty...u deserved that sunderland!...wakakakaka
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who cares if its from manc fanz...its the luck factor that im talking bout...we deserved all the luck after that stupid beach ball they got last season
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when other team received that kind of favors..dun simply say ppl bought ref or influence decision too
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Mar 20 2011, 10:12 PM)
when other team received that kind of favors..dun simply say ppl bought ref or influence decision too
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But really, we bought the linesman and thankfully he managed to influenece the ref. What to do, we cannot afford to buy ref too pricey

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dude seriously.. after out for so long and just playing 2 games? ffs
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But really, we bought the linesman and thankfully he managed to influenece the ref. What to do, we cannot afford to buy ref too pricey
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lol okay. good luck. with this kind of attitude, especially from the "best fans in the world", I'd like to see how far Liverpool can go.  whistling.gif
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who cares if its from manc fanz...its the luck factor that im talking bout...we deserved all the luck after that stupid beach ball they got last season
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but clearly that wasn't a penalty since the foul was made outside the box. the linesman made a huge mistake there. managed to influence the referee summore. one thing for sure, before the penalty the game was dominated by Sunderland but after the penalty suddenly Sunderland look nervous and unsettled. the game suddenly swing Liverpool way.
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2nd half..
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Funny that how come shelby still getting his job.... Did you guys heard what he say just now?

the linesman overrule the referee decision..... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Mar 20 2011, 11:41 PM)
we all agree that penalty should not be awarded already..no need for you to do that tongue.gif


Added on March 20, 2011, 10:48 pm
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they should have bought linesmen in every games so wont need to fight for 5th place or higher liao mah ...

oh mayb they used the money to buy the 35m man ... left them no money
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is that the reason MU broke?the ref price really that high?

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fyi , for last match against Sunderland , it was referee fault for giving a goal to Sunderland .According to Fifa rules , the goal should be dissallow and now it is interesting to see the decision is in favor of us
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QUOTE(tgmape @ Mar 20 2011, 10:47 PM)
we all agree that penalty should not be awarded already..no need for you to do that tongue.gif


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is that the reason MU broke?the ref price really that high?
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yea lo..now u only noe? man utd so long din buy quality players liao loh
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we dont look like a team who beat MU 3-1.
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fans singing can't get enough suarez version

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then u have 2 get nani 2 assist and van der sar to spill the ball  tongue.gif
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Still the players need to create the situation to induce that mistakes rite? We r not doing anything here...firing blanks.
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yea lo...mayb can beat few of the elite teams but will succumb to many of average team..but i think the penalty will be enough ... enough to demoralise and demotivate the black cats
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Ngog in for Carrol..
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QUOTE(dfadzli @ Mar 20 2011, 11:02 PM)
Ngog in for Carrol..
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Added on March 20, 2011, 11:04 pmSpearing!!!!!!!!

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Added on March 20, 2011, 11:05 pmoh spearing!

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SUAREZ/!!!!!!!
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What a goallllllllllllllllllllllll


Added on March 20, 2011, 11:08 pmThey clebrate for lucas new born..

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Goal!
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2-0 BABEYHH!
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Absolutely phenomenal strike from Suarez !
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the crowds are singing suarez new song? nice goal...
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wth gyan


Added on March 20, 2011, 11:12 pmred card..yuhuuuu

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what a goal by Suarez, and its dedicated for Lucas' son.

How happy Lucas must be!
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red card? I guess the linesman have pass half of the money given by us to the ref laugh.gif
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I pity Sunderland, really. That soft red card.
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lol..u really taking the post seriously, i just joking with my fellow liverpool fans in LIVERPOOL thread
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FT.. We are 3 point behind Spurs for 5th place
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win confirmed

where can i see suarez's goal again?
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rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
suarezzz rclxm9.gif
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any1 got links to suarez's goal??
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Suarez's goal is simply phenomenon
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not the best video but http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y5ubdGwDV8

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QUOTE(shenmue @ Mar 20 2011, 11:29 PM)
thanks mang

really tight angle
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Am happy with spearing. He looked solid. But we still need a midfield general capable of controlling the game.
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it wasn't a penalty, not sure why the linesman decide it was, a big karma for the balloon goal last season.
mensah red card was probably he's the last man, a professional foul..it's going to be red anyway, he already got a yellow.

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Suarez is a good buy... He is such a danger person in attacking.. Already looks very use to playing English football liao..
Good transfer for dropping that Torres...

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ahhhhhhhhh...what a nice feeling to hear the suarez song replacing the betrayer who will walk alone rclxms.gif rclxms.gif





like what alan parry said...apart from suarez goal,its a game of not so high quality...both teams guilty giving ball away cheaply...even suarez looks ordinary b4 his goal...and what can i say bout carroll..unlucky not to score tonite..good move by dalglish to replaced him...he looks knackered after 60min...spearing looks a gud player...apart from 1 misplaced pass,i dont see him look out of sorts with lucas in the middle of the park..great shot in 2nd half only to denied by a great save from sun keeper..overall happy days!! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(love.beginner @ Mar 20 2011, 11:36 PM)
it wasn't a penalty, not sure why the linesman decide it was, a big karma for the balloon goal last season.
mensah red card was probably he's the last man, a professional foul..it's going to be red anyway, he already got a yellow.
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QUOTE(leftist @ Mar 20 2011, 11:39 PM)
ahhhhhhhhh...what a nice feeling to hear the suarez song replacing the betrayer who will walk alone rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
like what alan parry said...apart from suarez goal,its a game of not so high quality...both teams guilty giving ball away cheaply...even suarez looks ordinary b4 his goal...and what can i say bout carroll..unlucky not to score tonite..good move by dalglish to replaced him...he looks knackered after 60min...spearing looks a gud player...apart from 1 misplaced pass,i dont see him look out of sorts with lucas in the middle of the park..great shot in 2nd half only to denied by a great save from sun keeper..overall happy days!! laugh.gif
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i think carroll play good and bad at the same time. he win mostly the aerial ball but he did pass cheap balls to the opponent but i simply cannot forget that he nearly score the goal with his head. really unlucky.

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QUOTE(PPZ @ Mar 20 2011, 11:39 PM)
somehow i think suarez is our little cheeky ******* who did it again. i think he purposely went in front of mensah and let him foul him so that he can get red carded. simply good goal from suarez and the previous number 9 cannot do it. tongue.gif


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i think carroll play good and bad at the same time. he win mostly the aerial ball but he did pass cheap balls to the opponent but i simply cannot forget that he nearly score the goal with his head. really unlucky.
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carroll was good in 1st half..linking up with others...but apart from his header which was saved by the line,he looks tired & made 3-4 misplaced pass..understandable after he played a full 90minutes in mid week...needs 2-3 more games to be 100% match fit
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Not a bad a game. Big head Bruce must be furious, his team started really well .. played some really nice football, where as we were all over the place. I reckon the game would have ended differently had we not been gifted that penalty. But its football and we've seen far strangest things i.e. the beach ball last season.

Reina had a quiet game and i thought we were defensively sound.

The midfield was initially terrible but gained foothold as the game progressed. Quite happy with Lucas's performance - was tidy and was probably one of the few 'footballers' we had out there today. Spearing was tenacious but easily deceived. Meireles was probably the worst midfielder on the pitch, not sure what he was doing for large part of the game.

Our 3 forwards seem a bit out of sync at the moment. Carroll obviously needs time to gel with the rest but other than those headers, he was terrible. Doesn't look up for a pass, poor on the ball, and seem to be easily flustered. Kuyt was pretty much himself today - nothing fancy, worked his bollocks to make sure we don't get overun. Suarez was yet again, our main goal threat. He's going to be either the most loved or hated footballer in EPL. Not that is a bad thing. He's just so demanding and will go the distance for the win.
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Caroll looks disinterested for sure.Not sure if its due to europa league tiredness or homesickness of newcastle.
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Caroll looks disinterested for sure.Not sure if its due to europa league tiredness or homesickness of newcastle.
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QUOTE(hfi @ Mar 20 2011, 11:46 PM)
Not a bad a game. Big head Bruce must be furious, his team started really well .. played some really nice football, where as we were all over the place. I reckon the game would have ended differently had we not been gifted that penalty. But its football and we've seen far strangest things i.e. the beach ball last season.

Reina had a quiet game and i thought we were defensively sound.

The midfield was initially terrible but gained foothold as the game progressed. Quite happy with Lucas's performance - was tidy and was probably one of the few 'footballers' we had out there today. Spearing was tenacious but easily deceived. Meireles was probably the worst midfielder on the pitch, not sure what he was doing for large part of the game.

Our 3 forwards seem a bit out of sync at the moment. Carroll obviously needs time to gel with the rest but other than those headers, he was terrible. Doesn't look up for a pass, poor on the ball, and seem to be easily flustered. Kuyt was pretty much himself today - nothing fancy, worked his bollocks to make sure we don't get overun. Suarez was yet again, our main goal threat. He's going to be either the most loved or hated footballer in EPL. Not that is a bad thing. He's just so demanding and will go the distance for the win.
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Why Spearing start ahead of Pacheco ?
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3-5-2 seems KK favourite formation in an away game these days...against west ham we also used 3-5-2...carra,skrtel & agger dont have much work to do containing sunderland attack rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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Our defence was very solid thanks to the returning dagger.Still not impressed with skrtel pulling down opponents.

meireles seems to be on a poor run.our midfield just isnt the same without gerrard.

Joe cole is starting to look like his old self.Should've came on earlier instead.
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super goal from super suarez !!!
he somehow reminds me of that Queen singer tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Sifha238 @ Mar 20 2011, 11:53 PM)
Why Spearing start ahead of Pacheco ?
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Because Pacheco is not a ball winning midfielder ?
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QUOTE(mkaz @ Mar 21 2011, 12:00 AM)
super goal from super suarez !!!
he somehow reminds me of that Queen singer tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mkaz @ Mar 21 2011, 12:00 AM)
super goal from super suarez !!!
he somehow reminds me of that Queen singer tongue.gif
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its coz of the teeth right??? brows.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Sifha238 @ Mar 20 2011, 11:53 PM)
Why Spearing start ahead of Pacheco ?
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Why wes brown played at CB when Vidic is suspended and not Rafael?Simply because that's not his position.

Same thing here. Spearing is a cm, replacing Gerrard.
Pacheco, on the other hand, is playing as second striker/striker. Logic?
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my point of view...
  • Another slow start against another lesser team. Luckily this time we didn't punish by another early goal.
  • ..and Carra is now our new Alonso? he's not going to make an overlapping run so he keeps playing long ball forward. But we had no choice but to play him as a fullback since we're out of option.
  • another note, playing Meireles on the flank is somehow limiting his contribution... it was a mistake made by Roy, hope Kenny will find another solution.
  • Somehow I'm impress with Sunderland's wide play. Unfortunately, they lost two players in first 30 mins, conceded a controversial penalty, got man sent off... bad day for them.
  • For the first time I feel like the official is on our side. Very odd feeling.
  • Suarez, why on earth don't we get him sooner?

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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Mar 20 2011, 11:54 PM)
Our defence was very solid thanks to the returning dagger.Still not impressed with skrtel pulling down opponents.

meireles seems to be on a poor run.our midfield just isnt the same without gerrard.

Joe cole is starting to look like his old self.Should've came on earlier instead.
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Cole came on 88minutes, and that few minutes make him look like himself. I dunno... Too fast to judge, no?
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it was an ugly game. needless yellow cards here and there. except for the sent off it was a right decision. overall, wasn't a great game for Liverpool but they managed to secure 3 points which proven to be vital with Spurs draw yesterday. Great goal by Suarez. Like i mentioned before, the penalty was controversial since Spearing was fouled outside the box but it's football and referee bound to make mistake. some people may said it was karma for Sunderland regarding the beach ball incident but to me that was purely nonsense. Liverpool players picked up their game after the penalty and secure the win.

Carroll still have to get his fitness and sharpness back. He looked threathening. but not sharp enough. Lucas was oustanding but not Meireles. had a poor game from his usual awesome standard. probably due to fatigue? no way. but still, a good 3 points and bounce back by KD.
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QUOTE(sahathai @ Mar 21 2011, 12:04 AM)
my point of view...

  • Another slow start against another lesser team. Luckily this time we didn't punish by another early goal.
  • ..and Carra is now our new Alonso? he's not going to make an overlapping run so he keeps playing long ball forward. But we had no choice but to play him as a fullback since we're out of option.
  • another note, playing Meireles on the flank is somehow limiting his contribution... it was a mistake made by Roy, hope Kenny will find another solution.
  • Somehow I'm impress with Sunderland's wide play. Unfortunately, they lost two players in first 30 mins, conceded a controversial penalty, got man sent off... bad day for them.
  • For the first time I feel like the official is on our side. Very odd feeling.
  • Suarez, why on earth don't we get him sooner?

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We got alternatives actually... We can play Carra Skrtel at the center and Agger Glenny at the flanks...A bit surprising for KD to play Carra out wide.
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Mar 21 2011, 01:05 AM)
Cole came on 88minutes, and that few minutes make him look like himself. I dunno... Too fast to judge, no?
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Mar 21 2011, 12:05 AM)
Cole came on 88minutes, and that few minutes make him look like himself. I dunno... Too fast to judge, no?
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If u compare to maxi,meireles and carroll they rarely chased sunderland players.Joe cole looked bright- constantly looking to make a pass and receiving it back.
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Mar 21 2011, 12:06 AM)
We got alternatives actually... We can play Carra Skrtel at the center and Agger Glenny at the flanks...A bit surprising for KD to play Carra out wide.
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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Mar 21 2011, 12:10 AM)
If u compare to maxi,meireles and carroll they rarely chased sunderland players.Joe cole looked bright- constantly looking to make a pass and receiving it back.
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He came on with only 6 minutes left on the clock when everyone else is already knackered. He doesnt look fit to me, and a bit over weight.

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suarez goal.. magic touch!!!!
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I thought Carroll did well considering the circumstances. Knocked several ball to Suarez as well.
I thought he was sharp enough to win the header which was cleared.

But for that price, the pool fans will be hoping for more. Hopefully he will adapt and perform better. Watching the 2 blues games now. Torres looked sharper.
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just hit me, but is it that we've transformed from 'the unofficial la-liga club' to 'unofficial el-latino hombre' club? I mean we've got plenty of Latinos/Latin-American/Spanish speaking boys in the team.
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another magic touch by our 'perfect striker'(according to Lucas),if chelski drop points later we might hv a chance for top 4 maybe,given Suarez not injured,pls no injury to him
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another magic touch by our 'perfect striker'(according to Lucas),if chelski drop points later we might hv a chance for top 4 maybe,given Suarez not injured,pls no injury to him
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It's a pity that Caroll is not yet on the same wavelength as Suarez. Hopefully it will come soon and we would see beautiful linkup play between them.
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yea, hope chelski lose. come on mancity!  laugh.gif
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In all honesty, everything was really worrisome at the start of the 20 mins into the game. Sunderland looks stronger and definitely more determined.

Granted the penalty broke them, and as much as its controversial, its really the referee's fault to not have stuck to his decision. He could easily over-rule the linesman. Why didn't he? Simple, he could not be sure. If he was, definitely he would have. So to put matters to rest, it wasn't a penalty and yes, it was not a good call. But at least it wasn't a malicious intent by a diving individual dropping down in the box like Gyan on Agger to get a penalty on purpose, so yeah. or the way Webb or Riley gives them whistling.gif

We played like a team still needing time to gel. Misplace passes a plenty, still lack of understanding between Carroll and Suarez - remember if Carroll would have flicked the ball (that Suarez pass to him) back to Suarez that would have been a beautiful chance at goal. But all in all, Suarez came good again for the club when that tight angled right footed shot drool.gif In-FARKING-credible.

So basically if we were to be challenging anything, grinding out results is a must but luckily we didn't play that boringly with Suarez on board to provide some much needed entertainment.

Oh and I feel like he can bea bit of a drama-queen and that is quite annoying especially when you are cautioned for it. I suppose its in the heat of the moment and not because the money has gone up to his head and made it bigger. I just prays he never cries on the pitch, that would really shatter my image of him (south americans can be very very good tragic actors) blush.gif

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although the win is not tat impressive, esp the penalty , non the less its a solid 3 points b4 the silly fifa break for the silly friendlies (damn it Capello named Carroll into the England team after his recent injuries )

maybe tats the karma for the beach ball incident biggrin.gif

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Liverpool's midfield looked a little lost in the opening 15 minutes. Sunderland passed well but they were not incisive throughout the match and hardly tested Reina. They were also very hard done to have lost two players to injuries so early on.

We had more chances to score through both Carroll and Suarez. In fact I'm optimistic that Carroll will start scoring sooner rather than later.

Overall, I think we were very fortunate that things went our way, and of course we have a gifted but temperamental South American on our side!

The chase for 5th is definitely on and 4th .. well, the ball is round..


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if u ask me now who is better Suarez or Torres , u guess who is pick?

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QUOTE(farisq @ Mar 21 2011, 01:51 AM)
It's a pity that Caroll is not yet on the same wavelength as Suarez. Hopefully it will come soon and we would see beautiful linkup play between them.
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QUOTE(REDShaun @ Mar 21 2011, 09:36 AM)
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In all honesty, everything was really worrisome at the start of the 20 mins into the game. Sunderland looks stronger and definitely more determined.

Granted the penalty broke them, and as much as its controversial, its really the referee's fault to not have stuck to his decision. He could easily over-rule the linesman. Why didn't he? Simple, he could not be sure. If he was, definitely he would have. So to put matters to rest, it wasn't a penalty and yes, it was not a good call. But at least it wasn't a malicious intent by a diving individual dropping down in the box like Gyan on Agger to get a penalty on purpose, so yeah. or the way Webb or Riley gives them  whistling.gif

We played like a team still needing time to gel. Misplace passes a plenty, still lack of understanding between Carroll and Suarez - remember if Carroll would have flicked the ball (that Suarez pass to him) back to Suarez that would have been a beautiful chance at goal. But all in all, Suarez came good again for the club when that tight angled right footed shot  drool.gif In-FARKING-credible.

So basically if we were to be challenging anything, grinding out results is a must but luckily we didn't play that boringly with Suarez on board to provide some much needed entertainment.

Oh and I feel like he can bea bit of a drama-queen and that is quite annoying especially when you are cautioned for it. I suppose its in the heat of the moment and not because the money has gone up to his head and made it bigger. I just prays he never cries on the pitch, that would really shatter my image of him (south americans can be very very good tragic actors)  blush.gif

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Yeah. it was referee's fault. entirely their fault. no wonder Steve Bruce really angry. but the game itself looked ugly with players received bookings for needless challenges and reactions. Luckily the best thing was Suarez's goal although he did get himself into trouble by swearing to the linesman in Spanish language. laugh.gif And i was quite dissapointed with Kuyt when he deliberately stomp on sunderland player's foot while trying to block him from passing. with referee making mistakes throughout the match, Kuyt could easily put himself into trouble. If the referee had a screw lose, he might have shown a red card to Kuyt.

QUOTE(digilife @ Mar 21 2011, 09:40 AM)
although the win is not tat impressive, esp the penalty , non the less its a solid 3 points b4 the silly fifa break for the silly friendlies (damn it Capello named Carroll into the England team after his recent injuries )

maybe tats the karma for the beach ball incident biggrin.gif
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Maybe more playing time is needed for Carroll to recapture back his fitness and sharpness plus with Liverpool having less games to play this month, this would served as a best chance for Carroll.

Karma eh? quite nonsense actually although i do feel the scar from the match that Sunderland won because of the beach ball. It wasn't Sunderland fault for what happened. I blamed that entirely on the referee. it was an outside interference and yet he still allowed the goal to stand. last night, referee fault too but this time it was Liverpool luck. maybe it look like a karma but quite unfair as both teams was punished because of referee made a wrong call and now the FA launching the Referee respect campaign just to cover their own refereeing system's flaws.
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QUOTE(digilife @ Mar 21 2011, 09:56 AM)
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Come on now, ease up on Torres already. blush.gif

He may be a Chelsea player now but we cannot and should not forget the things he has done for us when he was at the club. Yes he was not right in many ways but he wasn't wrong either since at his prime he thinks for himself more than anything else. Or we could always blame his agent. Just let it pass already.

If you really must know, the fans may already be turning on him as I have seen suggestion from the Chelsea thread that they should just put him as a defender and let David Luiz play upfront. I know it's just one comment but we all know it resonates the lost of belief that he is actually worth 50 million quids now. I only hope the fans don't all turn on him when he is at his lowest and hope he can bounce back. sad.gif

We may be labelled as the "best fans in the world" or at least working towards it, but I can say more than often we should be labelled "most tolerant fans" instead LOL tongue.gif

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QUOTE(digilife @ Mar 21 2011, 09:56 AM)
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lol compare again?
Both are different types of player =)
But there is one thing i am sure about Torres is that, "1 chance scoring opportunity = 1 goal = finishing is superb"...
He dont need the second chance to get his goals...

Meanwhile Suarez is more to a team player... thumbup.gif
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imho carrol did OK.. he won most of the aerial ball and hold the ball pretty well. he almost got a goal too didnt he? and i agree he needs time to gel with suarez and the midfield. though i would like to see the defenders (carra and skrtel) stop huffing the ball to him every single time. the first 20 mins reminds me of houllier's last few seasons.

agger just golden doesn't he? made the difference on the defense. when he does brings the ball forward. he can link up play too. here's hoping he could play till end of the season without any injuries.

oh.. its nice for suarez to dedicated the goal to lucas baby.

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QUOTE(REDShaun @ Mar 21 2011, 10:29 AM)
Come on now, ease up on Torres already.  blush.gif

He may be a Chelsea player now but we cannot and should not forget the things he has done for us when he was at the club. Yes he was not right in many ways but he wasn't wrong either since at his prime he thinks for himself more than anything else. Or we could always blame his agent. Just let it pass already.

If you really must know, the fans may already be turning on him as I have seen suggestion from the Chelsea thread that they should just put him as a defender and let David Luiz play upfront. I know it's just one comment but we all know it resonates the lost of belief that he is actually worth 50 million quids now. I only hope the fans don't all turn on him when he is at his lowest and hope he can bounce back.  sad.gif

We may be labelled as the "best fans in the world" or at least working towards it, but I can say more than often we should be labelled "most tolerant fans" instead LOL  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(RedSiglap56 @ Mar 21 2011, 09:51 AM)
Liverpool's midfield looked a little lost in the opening 15 minutes. Sunderland passed well but they were not incisive throughout the match and hardly tested Reina. They were also very hard done to have lost two players to injuries so early on.

We had more chances to score through both Carroll and Suarez. In fact I'm optimistic that Carroll will start scoring sooner rather than later.

Overall, I think we were very fortunate that things went our way, and of course we have a gifted but temperamental South American on our side!

The chase for 5th is definitely on and 4th .. well, the ball is round..
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carroll should have scored 2 goals by now..one against braga where his goal bound header was blocked by kuyt..another one last nite which was blocked by cattermole...still not 100% match sharpness yet....give him 2-3 games more and we shall see..one thing for sure,he won a lot of headers!..and quite good in holding up the ball too..qualities that we missed when Torres was our main striker rolleyes.gif
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I thought Carroll did well considering the circumstances.  Knocked several ball to Suarez as well.
I thought he was sharp enough to win the header which was cleared. 

But for that price, the pool fans will be hoping for more.  Hopefully he will adapt and perform better.  Watching the 2 blues games now. Torres looked sharper.
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Like Redshaun, I'm getting tired of reading anti-Torres posts. Ironic since we call Everton, "The Bitters" eh? Who's bitter now? We should spend more time wishing ourselves well than others ill. It's all so hypocritical in my opinion.

Not the best of performances last night but in the end it's 3 points in the bag and given that this is only Sunderland's 4th home loss the whole season, it is some achievement. If Dalglish's track record is anything to go by, we would be 2nd in the table had he been in charge from the beginning of the season. His record since taking over is on par with Arsenal's. Despite some of the negativity I've seen being thrown around in there especially after the losses to West Ham and Braga, there is a lot to be optimistic about.

Were we lucky last night? Lucky to get the penalty? Hell yeah. Kevin Frend got it right and his assistant got it wrong, it was clear as day. Were we lucky to win? Not if you ask me. Sunderland did have a lot of possession but does anyone remember Reina making a save? We created the best chances of the match despite Sunderland having more of the ball. Carroll won everything in the air but his touch on the ground was a little heavy. Possibly a symptom from being out injured for so long. Super bit of work from Suarez. He saw that Mignolet had shifted his body weight to the right anticipation the ball to be played across goal, and instinctively poked the ball in the near post.

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I kenot brain bout him anymore. We got Carrol and Suarez now, why still need to say bout him. biggrin.gif


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Like Redshaun, I'm getting tired of reading anti-Torres posts. Ironic since we call Everton, "The Bitters" eh? Who's bitter now? We should spend more time wishing ourselves well than others ill. It's all so hypocritical in my opinion.

Not the best of performances last night but in the end it's 3 points in the bag and given that this is only Sunderland's 4th home loss the whole season, it is some achievement. If Dalglish's track record is anything to go by, we would be 2nd in the table had he been in charge from the beginning of the season. His record since taking over is on par with Arsenal's. Despite some of the negativity I've seen being thrown around in there especially after the losses to West Ham and Braga, there is a lot to be optimistic about.

Were we lucky last night? Lucky to get the penalty? Hell yeah. Kevin Frend got it right and his assistant got it wrong, it was clear as day. Were we lucky to win? Not if you ask me. Sunderland did have a lot of possession but does anyone remember Reina making a save? We created the best chances of the match despite Sunderland having more of the ball. Carroll won everything in the air but his touch on the ground was a little heavy. Possibly a symptom from being out injured for so long. Super bit of work from Suarez. He saw that Mignolet had shifted his body weight to the right anticipation the ball to be played across goal, and instinctively poked the ball in the near post.
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imho carrol did OK.. he won most of the aerial ball and hold the ball pretty well. he almost got a goal too didnt he? and i agree he needs time to gel with suarez and the midfield. though i would like to see the defenders (carra and skrtel) stop huffing the ball to him every single time. the first 20 mins reminds me of houllier's last few seasons.

agger just golden doesn't he? made the difference on the defense. when he does brings the ball forward. he can link up play too. here's hoping he could play till end of the season without any injuries.

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QUOTE(leftist @ Mar 21 2011, 11:19 AM)
carroll should have scored 2 goals by now..one against braga where his goal bound header was blocked by kuyt..another one last nite which was blocked by cattermole...still not 100% match sharpness yet....give him 2-3 games more and we shall see..one thing for sure,he won a lot of headers!..and quite good in holding up the ball too..qualities that we missed when Torres was our main striker rolleyes.gif
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Well, i think it is crystal clear that Torres and Carroll is a different type of striker. Torres don't have the physical advantage that Carroll has while Carroll don't have the pace and skills that Torres has. So it's quite unfair to compare them unless they are similar type of striker. While Torres while playing at Liverpool, his goals usually came from a through ball, beat off last defender with his pace, some headers and few spectacular strikes. Most of the goals came from utilising his pace and trickery. Carroll on the other hand, using his aerial ability and physical advantage to score goals. it's just that, during Torres era, Liverpool don't have a physical striker like Carroll but during Carroll era, Liverpool have Suarez who have pace, trickery and creativity. so it's is somewhat as expected that people will compare Torres with Carroll.

QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 21 2011, 11:59 AM)
Like Redshaun, I'm getting tired of reading anti-Torres posts. Ironic since we call Everton, "The Bitters" eh? Who's bitter now? We should spend more time wishing ourselves well than others ill. It's all so hypocritical in my opinion.

Not the best of performances last night but in the end it's 3 points in the bag and given that this is only Sunderland's 4th home loss the whole season, it is some achievement. If Dalglish's track record is anything to go by, we would be 2nd in the table had he been in charge from the beginning of the season. His record since taking over is on par with Arsenal's. Despite some of the negativity I've seen being thrown around in there especially after the losses to West Ham and Braga, there is a lot to be optimistic about.

Were we lucky last night? Lucky to get the penalty? Hell yeah. Kevin Frend got it right and his assistant got it wrong, it was clear as day. Were we lucky to win? Not if you ask me. Sunderland did have a lot of possession but does anyone remember Reina making a save? We created the best chances of the match despite Sunderland having more of the ball. Carroll won everything in the air but his touch on the ground was a little heavy. Possibly a symptom from being out injured for so long. Super bit of work from Suarez. He saw that Mignolet had shifted his body weight to the right anticipation the ball to be played across goal, and instinctively poked the ball in the near post.
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some fans just still hurt by his departure. must have been a Torres fans.

Last night game, although Sunderland did control the midfield but i must say Liverpool defence did a good job containing Gyan and Welbeck. Liverpool midfield was all over the place and crowded by Sunderland midfield but Liverpool defence step up and provide cover and back up for their midfield. which is good.

On Suarez, what can i say, pure genius he is. he showed that he able to cope with EPL aggresiveness. i think everyone aware of the treatment he received from Bramble, Bardsley and Catermole.


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QUOTE(kamkamparadise @ Mar 21 2011, 01:13 PM)
some fans just still hurt by his departure. must have been a Torres fans.


Well I am a fan of Torres which is exactly why I don't see the need to continue to lambast him.

QUOTE(kamkamparadise @ Mar 21 2011, 01:13 PM)
Last night game, although Sunderland did control the midfield but i must say Liverpool defence did a good job containing Gyan and Welbeck. Liverpool midfield was all over the place and crowded by Sunderland midfield but Liverpool defence step up and provide cover and back up for their midfield. which is good.


I wouldn't exactly say that our midfield was "all over the place". I think we played deep and thus invited Sunderland onto us. I also think that whilst they had the possession, we made it difficult for them to muster any attempts on goal, bar the first 15-20 mins. I think Spearing and Lucas provided the back four with sufficient cover. Sunderland only 1 hot shot on target the whole game (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=293059&cc=4716)


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Well I am a fan of Torres which is exactly why I don't see the need to continue to lambast him.
I wouldn't exactly say that our midfield was "all over the place". I think we played deep and thus invited Sunderland onto us. I also think that whilst they had the possession, we made it difficult for them to muster any attempts on goal, bar the first 15-20 mins. I think Spearing and Lucas provided the back four with sufficient cover. Sunderland only 1 hot shot on target the whole game (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=293059&cc=4716)
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I think it is the way of KD to contain Sunderland pressing game. i noticed that Sunderland midfield kept on pressing but with Lucas as cover the threat was nullified. Lucas had a tremendous game and congrats to him for the birth of his child.
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I feel there's nothing wrong with forumers talking bad about torres here. This is a public forum anyway and they have every right to do so. Great to see Suarez getting the goal, it's gonna flame up his spirit. Damn right it will. It's important as were gonna have to play man city and arsenal in the upcoming games.
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Yes, im hurt over Torres departure. Its more like the manner that he left. There couldve been a proper farewell for a beloved player like him. But no. He chose to rush it.


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QUOTE(eugene_tan6 @ Mar 21 2011, 02:08 PM)
I feel there's nothing wrong with forumers talking bad about torres here. This is a public forum anyway and they have every right to do so. Great to see Suarez getting the goal, it's gonna flame up his spirit. Damn right it will. It's important as were gonna have to play man city and arsenal in the upcoming games.
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I didn't say posters can't badmouth him. I said I don't agree with it for reasons given earlier. We call Everton "the Bitters" because they're always taking the piss out of us. We laugh when mancs cheer on Rooney, then villify him when he wanted to leave and not cheer him again. So why are now are we doing the same thing? Will it happen again if Reina leaves?
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Yes, im hurt over Torres departure. Its more like the manner that he left. There couldve been a proper farewell for a beloved player like him. But no. He chose to rush it.
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Well fairplay to those who continue to moan about him but do not use, "we are the best fans" in each of their posts. Do continue to give him stick but don't make a big deal out of our opponents when they crucify their players for leaving. The most recent example of this was Rooney's. Are the same posters who knock Torres, the same ones who laughed at the mancs? I don't know the answers and if you want to go out criticising Torres, please go ahead but don't be a hypocrite.
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Would you feel the same way if your best friend left you without a goodbye? smile.gif
Hahaha kuyt and surez have amazing understanding of each other. Really nice to see when both of them are playing at top form. Eg : yesterdays second goal.
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QUOTE(eugene_tan6 @ Mar 21 2011, 02:08 PM)
I feel there's nothing wrong with forumers talking bad about torres here. This is a public forum anyway and they have every right to do so. Great to see Suarez getting the goal, it's gonna flame up his spirit. Damn right it will. It's important as were gonna have to play man city and arsenal in the upcoming games.
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Chelsea bought 2 players, one started the scoring and he was NOT bought to score, whereas the other which was bought to score din open his account yet, could it be tat he is turning into a "White Elephant" biggrin.gif

Torres did good things to our History ( we paid him accordingly, okay!!) but the way he left us made him Bad

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I'm already gone past Torres, I don't hate nor support him any longer. I will only remember him as a mercenary brought to score goals, and sold him for a $50 Million profit.
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Would you feel the same way if your best friend left you without a goodbye? smile.gif
Not saying I won't feel hurt. I'm saying there is no point in being bitter about it. Since you used a "friend" as an example, let me just share that the reason I am still good friend with all my ex's whether they left me, cheated on me or whether I left them is because I don't believe in holding grudges. To answer your questions, I'd be hurt but it doesn't mean that I won't remember all the good times spent together and it doesn't mean I will never forgive, because I will.

To Mr. Digilife who likes that this is a public forum, it is which is why we are allowed to post opposing viewpoints. If I recall, you've been a Liverpool supporter for several years. You've seen players come, and you've seen players go. You should by now understand the Liverpool way of life and if I understand it as well as you do, it doesn't encourage the burning of jerseys when players leave, nor does it teach us to hate. For a guy who was soooo optimistic (albeit blindly) and positive at the start of the season, I'm surprised you condone such negativity.

In the past, fans would applaud rival players if they scored a super goal, or if a keeper made a good save. They would applaud the opposition off if they played well even if it meant they beat us. The Anfield faithful would never boo our own team, but instead sing YNWA at the end of each game, win or lose. I believe in this kind of fan. It blows to see an opposition striker hit a winner at the end of the game, knocking us out of a cup competition, but yet, we give credit where it's due. It blows to see Torres leave, but it's disheartening that we should focus on that instead of what he's contributed whilst he was with us.

Do you see anyone still criticising Torres on RAWK? (http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?board=2.0)

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It's not surprising at all that the "Torres bashing" continues. If Michael Owen still gets shot now and again after all these years, what do we expect of such a recent event? Quite normal .. "healing" will take time!

Having said that, we have to accept that players coming and going is an essential part of professional football. Let's just be thankful for the few players around who stand by their boy-hood clubs, or the clubs which treated them very well. Such are rare gems these days.

I wish the Americans can see that managers who hold on to such values are even more precious gems ... and promptly reward Dalglish with a permanent appointment! That will give everyone a major boost!
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QUOTE(RedSiglap56 @ Mar 21 2011, 03:14 PM)
It's not surprising at all that the "Torres bashing" continues. If Michael Owen still gets shot now and again after all these years, what do we expect of such a recent event? Quite normal .. "healing" will take time!

Having said that, we have to accept that players coming and going is an essential part of professional football. Let's just be thankful for the few players around who stand by their boy-hood clubs, or the clubs which treated them very well.  Such are rare gems these days.

I wish the Americans can see that managers who hold on to such values are even more precious gems ... and promptly reward Dalglish with a permanent appointment! That will give everyone a major boost!
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Yup, Owen still gets stick as does McManaman (Bosman transfer) as does Souness (Sun interview) but by the vast majority of Liverpool fans? There is of course a split in opinions, I'm just trying to justify mine. If any posters wants to justify continously bashing Torres, please do so. I've stated my opinions on why I think we should stop. Some of these opinions may not matter, and some of them, posters may not be able to relate to. I have personally never booed Owen, Mcmanaman or Souness. In fact, I don't talk much about their "betrayal". The only former Red I still criticise is El-Hadji Diouf and that's because he is a cheat and lacks ethics. Torres may not have left under the best of circumstances but he did state from day 1 that he was leaving Atletico Madrid for titles. He did promise his fans that he would return to the club. I admire this. All I know is that when I used the words, "Torres" and "You'll Never Walk Alone" in the same sentence, as I'm sure many of you did, it meant that I made a pledge that under whatever circumstances, I will at least endevour to try to remember him in a positive light.

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Well we too bought 2 player and both of them are to score goals for us. One is starting to score and another.... well you can give excuse that he just came back from injury but the fact is that he has not scored right?

Before laughing at others take a good look at ourselves first, For me I would have concentrate on the player that we have rather than others. I know a lot of us might hate Torres for leaving but I dont think mocking him would do any good to your or me. Like you say this is an open forum you can do what you wanted and no one can stop you. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 21 2011, 02:23 PM)
Well fairplay to those who continue to moan about him but do not use, "we are the best fans" in each of their posts. Do continue to give him stick but don't make a big deal out of our opponents when they crucify their players for leaving. The most recent example of this was Rooney's. Are the same posters who knock Torres, the same ones who laughed at the mancs? I don't know the answers and if you want to go out criticising Torres, please go ahead but don't be a hypocrite.
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Players come n go. If u read my post carefully, i do not bemoan his departure...only the way he depart.
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All good it seems we have split opinions about beating/bashing/lambasting on players that has left us, good or bad.

But take a quick check on how you want to criticise them. Imagine if you were offered a great job, great benefits and more than just that a chance at growing your career. Your current company may love you, you may have done wonders but because the job has a closing date, would you not choose to talk to your boss for an immediate contract release? icon_idea.gif

So what makes Torres different? He is thinking about his future (at his prime), his wife, his child and possibly a career worth some trophies or legacy he can leave behind. So if you are thinking what he did was wrong in an unforgivable sense, then seriously you guys are either delirious or not doing justice to yourselves.

I am managing a team of young talented individuals in marketing and in sales and if someone came along and pinch them off me, then normally i would ask myself if i have done enough to warrant them staying. if not, cest la vie, if I have maybe the other side is offering something i cannot hope to match. I would feel disheartened but there are so many factors involved I can only keep appreciating the fact they have contributed when they were here and I wish them well.

If their characters are bad-asses then I have nothing to say, but i wouldn't soil myself by hypocritically beating on them when i know it doesn't make me feel any better about myself.

Righteous arse you say? No, i like to think myself as a realistic arse and if someone came knocking on my door offering the same thing, I feel its time my future, family and career takes the cake than for the love of my colleagues and boss.

That is my reason for not bashing or hoping Torres would not do good or curse him to fail at Chelsea. He is after all.. like you and me blush.gif

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Players come n go. If u read my post carefully, i do not bemoan his departure...only the way he depart.
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Fair enough, I wasn't targetting your post in particular incidentally.

I can't help but feel a little peeved when the first topic I come across in the morning on OUR thread isn't about how our team is doing, but about the Mancs have lost or how Torres still hasn't scored. Noticed I said, TOPIC (i.e. a string of posts on the subject) and not just a single post or two. Do we still need to curse him and hope he never has a successful career? I've noticed so many posters go on about being the best fans, and all we do is curse our rivals? Maybe "best" and "class" don't necessarily go hand-in-hand.

Fans do need to be reminded of the past, good or bad. It's why you will come across a post or two on Owen and McManaman. Few remember Souness' interview with the Sun. I see no reason however for us to continue to hurl daggers at them to the extent we come across as bitter. Like I said earlier, when we go "Torres, YNWA", or "Owen, YNWA", did we really mean it? Doesn't matter if the words YNWA mean anything to them, it should matter to us.

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 21 2011, 04:15 PM)
Fair enough, I wasn't targetting your post in particular incidentally.

I can't help but feel a little peeved when the first topic I come across in the morning on OUR thread isn't about how our team is doing, but about the Mancs have lost or how Torres still hasn't scored. Noticed I said, TOPIC (i.e. a string of posts on the subject) and not just a single post or two. Do we still need to curse him and hope he never has a successful career? I've noticed so many posters go on about being the best fans, and all we do is curse our rivals? Maybe "best" and "class" don't necessarily go hand-in-hand.

Fans do need to be reminded of the past, good or bad. It's why you will come across a post or two on Owen and McManaman. Few remember Souness' interview with the Sun. I see no reason however for us to continue to hurl daggers at them to the extent we come across as bitter. Like I said earlier, when we go "Torres, YNWA", or "Owen, YNWA", did we really mean it? Doesn't matter if the words YNWA mean anything to them, it should matter to us.
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Like in the recent Japan earthquake where some fear or other is running in the hearts of some of my japanese friends over there, I'll always skype them and end with a YNWA. They are not Liverpool fans but they have asked what it meant and after telling them its as simple as it means, they appreciate the fact now they know some of us share their grief and fears and they will definitely not be alone in their struggle to overcome the horrors they just faced.

So to all fans and friends alike, when I say YNWA, its meant to be that. So keep it in your hearts that its no longer just something we use in games, but also to be used in any given situation for comfort and assurance.

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 21 2011, 11:59 AM)
Not the best of performances last night but in the end it's 3 points in the bag and given that this is only Sunderland's 4th home loss the whole season, it is some achievement. If Dalglish's track record is anything to go by, we would be 2nd in the table had he been in charge from the beginning of the season. His record since taking over is on par with Arsenal's. Despite some of the negativity I've seen being thrown around in there especially after the losses to West Ham and Braga, there is a lot to be optimistic about.

Were we lucky last night? Lucky to get the penalty? Hell yeah. Kevin Frend got it right and his assistant got it wrong, it was clear as day. Were we lucky to win? Not if you ask me. Sunderland did have a lot of possession but does anyone remember Reina making a save? We created the best chances of the match despite Sunderland having more of the ball. Carroll won everything in the air but his touch on the ground was a little heavy. Possibly a symptom from being out injured for so long. Super bit of work from Suarez. He saw that Mignolet had shifted his body weight to the right anticipation the ball to be played across goal, and instinctively poked the ball in the near post.
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Ya, yesterday is not a good performance, but barely done enough to win the game, my opinion.

When saw the live game time, I don't know how on earth, the ball can go into the net. When I saw Suarez cut inside and go on byline, I taught this is impossible angle to score, need to cut back and pass to someone else if not would be crowede out, boom, come from nowhere, ball inside the net.
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Do you see anyone still criticising Torres on RAWK? (http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?board=2.0)
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always impeccable posting by DR..

but as I have to disagree since there is a thread on RAWK to track Torres progress at Chelsea...and the usual brickbats directed at him

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index....pic=270536.3240

Whole 82 pages of it...
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I never criticized the way torres played for us hahaha, as maranello55 said, only the way he left us. Anyway Duke, there's no point getting upset about what people say hahaha. The people you advise now will change but then there still will always have a fan that will bring it up once in a while. There's no harm in doing so, people tend to do what they do not when they are angry/frustrated. This will be my last post regarding this topic. Regardless of what happened, Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Always remember, no player is bigger than the club. Class is permanent, form is temporary. YNWA!! Hahaha I may boo other teams once in a while but no offence intended, all for the love of the game. smile.gif
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i did post a single sentence on Torres early this morning. I stayed up a bit later to catch the 2 Blues teams playing.
Reason? just to watch Torres. He is still a very exciting player to watch.
I thought he looked sharper. My dark side is happy he didnt score but the humane side of me do miss him, scoring those goals for us.


anyway, too bad Carroll's goal bound header was cleared...that would have removed loads of pressure of the lad...
several of his knockdowns were impressive....
but didnt really perform well with the ball on the ground...maybe he is still finding his feet or we are so used to the sight of a certain number 9 speeding down the channels with the ball...

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the 2 0 win over the Black Cats are a way to stamp on the fact we picked ourselves up from the Braga fiasco.

Again Suarez made the difference. Spearing was lively and Agger being his dominant self again pleases me to no end.

Even Steve Bruce had no complaints about their loss to Liverpool but quoted on the fact that video replay tech should be used. I am scratching my head on this, how would the tables have looked if really replays were indeed used for the games since the beginning of the season. Makes you wonder don't it? smile.gif
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Yeah, I agree with you nando. Torres is still an exciting lad, his pace is awesome but he couldn't find a way with his finishing. Hope carroll makes a debut goal faster than he does! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(triple02 @ Mar 21 2011, 04:28 PM)
always impeccable posting by DR..

but as I have to disagree since  there is a thread on RAWK to track Torres progress at Chelsea...and the usual brickbats directed at him

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index....pic=270536.3240

Whole 82 pages of it...
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Had a peek and although the thread is on Torres, the last few pages are hardly vindictive. More along the ,"ah well, he's gone, time to move on" vibe.

That being said, Anfield has changed. I cited examples earlier of the Kop applauding visiting keepers but this is a thing of the past. Doesn't happen as often anymore. Now, the "patient" fans at Anfield have learned to boo our team as well, something almost unheard off at Anfield. Stadiums in general have also become more quiet. This is due to more and more OOTs/touritsts buying tickets. History and tradition are words destined to be lost if the fans choose to ignore it.
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I dont mind if Torres goes to any any club at the end of the season.
I dont mind if Torres not as loyal as Carra and Gerrard.

But what the hell he put on transfer list almost 3 days? 2 days before the transfer date closed????? why he is not stay with us and win the trophy with us?

Yep...the timing when he is leaving was not right. Eventhough he is not with us, i will still remember him that help us go 2nd in the league. Thankz and good luck. Torres just a player. Not a legend.
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QUOTE(eugene_tan6 @ Mar 21 2011, 02:08 PM)
I feel there's nothing wrong with forumers talking bad about torres here. This is a public forum anyway and they have every right to do so. Great to see Suarez getting the goal, it's gonna flame up his spirit. Damn right it will. It's important as were gonna have to play man city and arsenal in the upcoming games.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 21 2011, 02:57 PM)

In the past, fans would applaud rival players if they scored a super goal, or if a keeper made a good save. They would applaud the opposition off if they played well even if it meant they beat us. The Anfield faithful would never boo our own team, but instead sing YNWA at the end of each game, win or lose. I believe in this kind of fan. It blows to see an opposition striker hit a winner at the end of the game, knocking us out of a cup competition, but yet, we give credit where it's due. It blows to see Torres leave, but it's disheartening that we should focus on that instead of what he's contributed whilst he was with us.

Do you see anyone still criticising Torres on RAWK? (http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?board=2.0)
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i think it's been awhile since i've seen this kind of event. can't quite recall when was the last time. It's great to see rival fans acknowledge a rival player for his good performance. that enough to convince me that although there is a rivalry between two clubs, the fans still managed to appreciate the rival contribution in football.


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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 21 2011, 04:49 PM)
Had a peek and although the thread is on Torres, the last few pages are hardly vindictive. More along the ,"ah well, he's gone, time to move on" vibe.

That being said, Anfield has changed. I cited examples earlier of the Kop applauding visiting keepers but this is a thing of the past. Doesn't happen as often anymore. Now, the "patient" fans at Anfield have learned to boo our team as well, something almost unheard off at Anfield. Stadiums in general have also become more quiet. This is due to more and more OOTs/touritsts buying tickets. History and tradition are words destined to be lost if the fans choose to ignore it.
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For me, the bashing, taunting, hatred, betrayal, rivalries etc are the ingredients to making football and supporting a club so much more meaningful. If there wasn't a club called Man Utd, it would not have been the same that we experience now. I'm not saying that I'm supporting LFC because I hate another club, but it just makes it a bit more interesting.

BTW, I seriously thought Suarez has been more than a capable replacement for 'the blonde sulk'. 3 assists, 2 goals and 2 MOM in 3 starts.. rclxms.gif
The goal last night was fantastic! notworthy.gif
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Next game is away to West Brom where the players will be greeted by their former boss! Spurs will be away to Wigan.

If things go our way at the Hawthorns, we could end up right behind Spurs next weekend!

Spurs still got to play Arsenal (H), Chelsea (A), pay a visit to Anfield and then play Man City (A). It will be a very tough fight to get 5th, but it certainly is not impossible..
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The spot for the 5th place is wide open now lads. Keep our heads high! Excited to see more suarez + carroll action again! Carroll playing for england in this weekend's Euro 2012 qualifiers. Hope no injuries and a goal!!
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QUOTE(RedSiglap56 @ Mar 21 2011, 05:18 PM)
Next game is away to West Brom where the players will be greeted by their former boss! Spurs will be away to Wigan.

If things go our way at the Hawthorns, we could end up right behind Spurs next weekend!

Spurs still got to play Arsenal (H), Chelsea (A), pay a visit to Anfield and then play Man City (A).  It will be a very tough fight to get 5th, but it certainly is not impossible..
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If Liv can string some consecutive win in the rest 8 games, even CL also possible.
8 points difference to catch up.

Although personally don't expect Liv to be in Europe next season, you cannot rule out until mathematically impossible.

Under KD, Liv managed to get 14 points out of 18 before.

Liv will be facing both Spurs and ManCity.

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 21 2011, 05:34 PM)
If Liv can string some consecutive win in the rest 8 games, even CL also possible.
8 points difference to catch up.

Although personally don't expect Liv to be in Europe next season, you cannot rule out until mathematically impossible.

Under KD, Liv managed to get 14 points out of 18 before.

Liv will be facing both Spurs and ManCity.
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Am optimistic since both matches will be at home. Actually don't quite fancy Europa but if both MC & Spurs are still preoccupied with other competition & suffer loss of form then CL will be achievable though that will very dependent on the lads hitting rich vein of form as well.

As much as we loath or miss Torres, cant help but feel we got the better bargain of it in economical sense. Lost 1 striker but got 2 back, at least have cover when 1 is injured.

The team still cant produce consistent fluid footie. Just hope we manage to grind out results till end season, then whatever will be, will be.

Also have a feeling it'll be Reina turn in the summer. Have a gut feeling he'll most definitely leave, either Man U or Gunners.
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QUOTE(eugene_tan6 @ Mar 21 2011, 05:21 PM)
The spot for the 5th place is wide open now lads. Keep our heads high! Excited to see more suarez + carroll action again! Carroll playing for england in this weekend's Euro 2012 qualifiers. Hope no injuries and a goal!!
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my sig at the bottom says it. that man did what he was paid to do when we signed him. things didnt work as well, well everyone will have to move on, as i too agree & share both duke red & redshaun's views.

liverpool fc as far as we the fans too didnt fulfil their potential when we were owned by the the texas cowboy goats.

I didnt liked the way torres left but his contributions far outweight as such the amosity held by some blunts here. they probably behave or are quasi everton or even closet manu fans or i cannot fathom anything else to be said.

i havent really forgaving McManaman for shoving Lfc to having peanuts, not even a bag of peanuts, no wait, it was zero money, which is worse actually for the club?

*(the lad after retirement still don's the LFc jersey, i suppose is his atonement for what he cause LFc to suffer).

what manner torres left us bar far still in nothing compared to being shoved for free (bosman), almost free (running down the contract) & left the club with no bargaining power, & not even willing to return back even we held out in open arms but chose to sign over to the pies & then over to the devil.

El-Hadji Diouf... to me he was never a lfc player. I find it hard to acknowledge him as an ex-lfc player.

there is not many games left & last night win helps in our confidence towards next season. looking at the points difference, it looks & look dimmer as weeks comes by for us to chase the 5th but i like we arent given up the drive to win games. this is most important as it will show players like reina that the is still much to play for in the future even when we haven nothing, no trophies this season.
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Also have a feeling it'll be Reina turn in the summer. Have a gut feeling he'll most definitely leave, either Man U or Gunners.
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if gunners come for him, he probably will go. manu, no. NO liverpool or ex liverpool players will consider them out of respect of the rivalry. torres said it, I'm positive reina too won't join as the same reason.

i dont know if the vultures here will hang him out like the way they crucify torres but i'm sure internally the lads at lfc will try to persuade to stay. it won't be easy after all the lies the texan cowboys dismantled & crippled us 5 years of progress as it would also now probably take KD another 2-3 seasons for us to build us to be title contenders.
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Looking at the Tables, we actually hav a mathetical chance to go for position number 5, which is better then wat we was at the end of last season under Rafa hmm.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(digilife @ Mar 21 2011, 08:38 PM)
Looking at the Tables, we actually hav a mathetical chance to go for position number 5, which is better then wat we was at the end of last season under Rafa hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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How thing change so fast.
From relegation zone, now we are saying possible 5th.
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Difficult to judge how loyal a player. For Gerrard case is simple, but others.... Not sure, reason because those players never really offer a great deal by other club.
Players come and go, now they are playing football and need to be professional, never talk bad about own club or have any sentiment over others club. Only thing I wish to see is their biography once they retired. Then they will really speak out the truth. Now is hard to judge, I hope you know what I mean.
For my feeling, liverpool is surely a club to miss for those players had left us, weather being bought by others or being release by us.
Sometimes good players might face some bad manager, until they had been sold.
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the charm of our king kenny in sunderland match, a long ball come towards him and he uses his control skill..then missed haha, he's charm!! omg..the fans are cheering...when he rise his hands, its ok..seems he really enjoy the post as a manager, after tat , he go and scold player...or call them to focus, good shout...definitely different his tone.
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QUOTE(weichieh007 @ Mar 21 2011, 05:17 PM)
For me, the bashing, taunting, hatred, betrayal, rivalries etc are the ingredients to making football and supporting a club so much more meaningful. If there wasn't a club called Man Utd, it would not have been the same that we experience now. I'm not saying that I'm supporting LFC because I hate another club, but it just makes it a bit more interesting.

BTW, I seriously thought Suarez has been more than a capable replacement for 'the blonde sulk'. 3 assists, 2 goals and 2 MOM in 3 starts.. rclxms.gif
The goal last night was fantastic!  notworthy.gif
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well, it is normal in to have those element in rivalry not only in football but in other aspect of life as well. it is just that some people decided to take it on to the next level by using violence etc. it is normal for humans to be competitive and have desire to win and be on top of others but it is sad to see some willing to go too far.

QUOTE(RedSiglap56 @ Mar 21 2011, 05:18 PM)
Next game is away to West Brom where the players will be greeted by their former boss! Spurs will be away to Wigan.

If things go our way at the Hawthorns, we could end up right behind Spurs next weekend!

Spurs still got to play Arsenal (H), Chelsea (A), pay a visit to Anfield and then play Man City (A).  It will be a very tough fight to get 5th, but it certainly is not impossible..
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another relegation battlers. tricky away game for Liverpool again. Arsenal struggled against them but that probably because of their shattered confidence and unlike Liverpool, coming from the win against Sunderland, have better chance to wrap up 3 points. but still be wary of the Baggies attacking threat.

QUOTE(vreis @ Mar 21 2011, 05:45 PM)
Am optimistic since both matches will be at home. Actually don't quite fancy Europa but if both MC & Spurs are still preoccupied with other competition & suffer loss of form then CL will be achievable though that will very dependent on the lads hitting rich vein of form as well.

As much as we loath or miss Torres, cant help but feel we got the better bargain of it in economical sense. Lost 1 striker but got 2 back, at least have cover when 1 is injured.

The team still cant produce consistent fluid footie. Just hope we manage to grind out results till end season, then whatever will be, will be.

Also have a feeling it'll be Reina turn in the summer. Have a gut feeling he'll most definitely leave, either Man U or Gunners.
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it will take a while considering it is Meireles, Suarez and Carroll first season with Liverpool. next season the team will come good. as for Reina, if Liverpool manage to finish 4th, there is a high possibility that he would stay but if he chose to leave, it surely will be for Arsenal. Man Utd currently monitoring other keepers.
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Its difficult to fathom him donning devil's jersey but stranger things happened. If the clause in his contract is true, who is to stop him going to Man U if they table a bid that trigger the release clause? He already said it time & again he's happy but he wanna win. Sounds to me like what Torres said. Neither he rule out a move to Man U when quizzed about it few weeks ago. To me, it's obvious he'll consider their approach, no?
As for Man U, I'm sure they're keeping tab on him, as are few others like Nuere, De Gea, Skeletenburg, et el. If they can get in one over us & at the same time got themselves a great gk, don't you think Sir Red Nose will explore that to rub it in? Its a great chance for them to do that considering the rumoured release clause GBP20mil isn't that high by today standard.

On another note, here's Henry taking a dig at you-know-who tongue.gif
even our owner takes a dig now & then, much less forummers laugh.gif
actually me thinks he talked too much to justify his decision to leave which made it all more worse. As saying goes the lesser u talk the better it is whistling.gif

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QUOTE(vreis @ Mar 21 2011, 11:05 PM)
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Its difficult to fathom him donning devil's jersey but stranger things happened. If the clause in his contract is true, who is to stop him going to Man U if they table a bid that trigger the release clause? He already said it time & again he's happy but he wanna win. Sounds to me like what Torres said. Neither he rule out a move to Man U when quizzed about it few weeks ago. To me, it's obvious he'll consider their approach, no?
As for Man U, I'm sure they're keeping tab on him, as are few others like Nuere, De Gea, Skeletenburg, et el. If they can get in one over us & at the same time got themselves a great gk, don't you think Sir Red Nose will explore that to rub it in? Its a great chance for them to do that considering the rumoured release clause GBP20mil isn't that high by today standard.

On another note, here's Henry taking a dig at you-know-who tongue.gif
even our owner takes a dig now & then, much less forummers laugh.gif
actually me thinks he talked too much to justify his decision to leave which made it all more worse. As saying goes the lesser u talk the better it is whistling.gif

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u certainly got a point there. yeah, who would have thought Torres were to leave to Chelsea? stranger things happen. although i still think Reina won't be joining MAn Utd but like as u've said above, stranger things happen. even though i'm a Man Utd fan, personally, i would like to see Reina stay at Liverpool because he's better off playing with Liverpool plus i would love to see a certain keeper outside EPL sign for MAn Utd which certainly not Reina. laugh.gif
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The game last Sunday against Sunderland was not what I expected. It was messy in the first half and that penalty was not suppose to be a pentaly. The 2nd half we did better than expected. Kudos to Skrtel I have to say, he did one heck of a job clearing the balls that came into the penalty box. Suarez's goal was unbelievable! When he was at the tight situation, I was telling myself, he's gonna do something amazing again I just know it, but I didn't for one second come to my mind he could score from such an angle. It was almost impossible scoring from such an angle. I did a Phil Thompson after that goal. smile.gif
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I heard the commentary said something like, "If Kenny Dalglish started the season as the manager with the results he's having now, Liverpool would be matched with Arsenal in points" doh.gif

But still...luckily Uncle Woy didn't last a whole season. Else later Reina, Dagger, Johnson, heck even Gerrard will cabut from Liverpool...
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hai guise any idea how to grab the photo from this page


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QUOTE(kazuki85 @ Mar 22 2011, 04:16 PM)
I heard the commentary said something like, "If Kenny Dalglish started the season as the manager with the results he's having now, Liverpool would be matched with Arsenal in points" doh.gif

But still...luckily Uncle Woy didn't last a whole season. Else later Reina, Dagger, Johnson, heck even Gerrard will cabut from Liverpool...
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Yes, it's true. Since taking over Dalglish has a record comparable only by Arsenal.

There is no guarantee that the players you mentioned won't leave this season with us already out of the Champions League, and unlikely candidates for the last Europa spot.
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which one do you need?
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we cant stop reina from leaving us but i really dont want to see dagger n gerrard leave us sad.gif

better sell johnson off , spent 17m on him is bullshit


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oh how come every pic i save become blank -.-

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Oh comeon, johnson not good? -.- he has the guts to rush forward man. 5th place is still open man, no doubt bout that.
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england right back certain starter...but played left back at liv..consider he's playing out of position,selling him is not a wise decision when we short on quality fullback
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Don't sell Johnson please, he's doing much better under KD and he did OK when he plays on the left while Kelly is on the right. He's a pretty reliable backup to our LB slot. Most importantly he didn't complaint too. tongue.gif

Reina MAY leave us in the summer if we miss Europe, but I'm sure Dagger won't. So is Gerrard and Johnson. They just want more playing time, and they got it under King Kenny.

But I'm pretty sure Jovanovic will be offloaded, and N'gog loaned out. I hope Insua and Aqua gets at least a season under King Kenny to see how well they click with his ideas...


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I'll be the first to admit that we were shelling out $18 million pounds on Johnson when we had a perfectly capable guy there in the shape of Alvaro Arbeloa. I never really rated Johnson but I must admit that when going forward, he's one of the best fullbacks in the league. I think that the decision to let him go or sell him will be purely a business one. Johnson is approaching his 30's and a player's value drops as he enters his 3rd decade. If a good offer comes along, why not given that we have Kelly in the wings? Yes, it's good to have a backup but when we find a leftback, neither Kelly nor Johnson will be content playing second fiddle. In the meantime, let's just enjoy watching him bombarding runs down the flank. Another reason I feel Dirk Kuyt starts whenever he's fit is because he tracks back to cover for Johnson when the latter is off exploring enemy territory.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 22 2011, 05:04 PM)
I'll be the first to admit that we were shelling out $18 million pounds on Johnson when we had a perfectly capable guy there in the shape of Alvaro Arbeloa. I never really rated Johnson but I must admit that when going forward, he's one of the best fullbacks in the league. I think that the decision to let him go or sell him will be purely a business one. Johnson is approaching his 30's and a player's value drops as he enters his 3rd decade. If a good offer comes along, why not given that we have Kelly in the wings? Yes, it's good to have a backup but when we find a leftback, neither Kelly nor Johnson will be content playing second fiddle. In the meantime, let's just enjoy watching him bombarding runs down the flank. Another reason I feel Dirk Kuyt starts whenever he's fit is because he tracks back to cover for Johnson when the latter is off exploring enemy territory.
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Which is why Liverpool right flank were efficient in both defending and attacking. the key is Kuyt. his willingness and determination to track back and provide cover for either Johnson and Kelly is important. On the left flank however, if Johnson decided to attack, Maxi might not as efficient as Kuyt in tracking back.
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Johnson has his flaws but the fact that he can play in either flank is a great plus. Obviously he is more potent when attacking down the right side but right now, his versatility has benifited us a great deal. He's worth keeping just for that.
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hope this is not true...was hoping that he will give KD one chance after the setbacks with ROy and Rafa...
Him and Suarez will be exciting i think....we need more ball playing players..

Aquilani likely to stay at Juve - agent

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finally liverpool coming to Malaysia

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Wanna go as a group? >:)
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Hahaha work something out guys and let's see how later. Looking forward to the ticket details and match date. Bukit jalil here we come...
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YES we as Liverpool fans from lowyat should go together!

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At least 1/2 of 1st 11 squad will be here...Else no point...Especially star like Gerrald...
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Steve Clarke has confirmed that Liverpool hope to have Steven Gerrard,
Martin Kelly, Fabio Aurelio and Jonjo Shelvey back in full training next week.

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QUOTE(tgmape @ Mar 22 2011, 09:12 PM)
I watched them at Singapore in 2009. I'll be there to watch Liverpool if i have the opportunity and join you guys. Already seen them at Anfield (many times), St Andrews..and other grounds.

We can appoint some focal point to contact those whose attending and appoint few more to grab the tickets. Transport will not be a problem i guess. The rest is assured sorted out if all goes with plan..


I'm in !

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lyn liverpool supporters 1 gang go..then do 1 banner...ahaha
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yaya..duke red chip the most pls..hahaha
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QUOTE(myuptownboy @ Mar 22 2011, 10:56 PM)
At least 1/2 of 1st 11 squad will be here...Else no point...Especially star like Gerrald...
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Shouldn't matter mate. We are fans of Liverpool Football Club first and foremost right? As Carra always says,"club comes first". Shouldn't matter if big stars like Gerrard can't come. What matters is that we show our support unconditionally.
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my lil bro work in MSN..usually he'll get a few free tickets..i'll inform if he got an extra..gonna give it to those who cant afford or juz simply kedekut to pay..then we can go together ramai-ramai..hahahaha
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 23 2011, 08:44 AM)
Shouldn't matter mate. We are fans of Liverpool Football Club first and foremost right? As Carra always says,"club comes first". Shouldn't matter if big stars like Gerrard can't come. What matters is that we show our support unconditionally.
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yaya..duke red chip the most pls..hahaha
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 23 2011, 08:44 AM)
Shouldn't matter mate. We are fans of Liverpool Football Club first and foremost right? As Carra always says,"club comes first". Shouldn't matter if big stars like Gerrard can't come. What matters is that we show our support unconditionally.
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you and or other thread veterans should organize this. hehe.. i wouldnt mind chipping in
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Please make the announcements regarding the Reds' visit as prominent as possible so that the not-so-regulars like me won't miss it.

It will be just great to watch the Reds play live. Greater still if another professional club also visits and plays a mini-tournament here with LFC!
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I want to go too. I got no Liverpool friends....
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lets go to bukit jalil...
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QUOTE(nando @ Mar 22 2011, 08:43 PM)
hope this is not true...was hoping that he will give KD one chance after the setbacks with ROy and Rafa...
Him and Suarez will be exciting i think....we need more ball playing players..

Aquilani likely to stay at Juve - agent

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/...s-agent?cc=4716
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read that too. i really hope Aquilani will come back to Liverpool next season. He is essential for the squad. During his brief spell with Liverpool we can see he have a good vision and distribution plus have the ability to dictate the pace of a game. He will enable Meireles and Gerrard to roam free.

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This international break have its own blessing in disguise. Injured players have chance to return from injury. Benefitted clubs will be Arsenal, Man Utd and Liverpool.

QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 23 2011, 08:44 AM)
Shouldn't matter mate. We are fans of Liverpool Football Club first and foremost right? As Carra always says,"club comes first". Shouldn't matter if big stars like Gerrard can't come. What matters is that we show our support unconditionally.
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+1. i like this.


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I want to go too. I got no Liverpool friends....
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u can join these guys here. even though u know them virtually, take this chance to meet them face to face and strengthen Liverpool LYN fans bond altogether.

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By the way, i just want to ask u guys opinion on something. Do u guys think it is wise for Gerrard to retire from international football now if he decided to do so?


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QUOTE(kamkamparadise @ Mar 23 2011, 01:43 PM)
By the way, i just want to ask u guys opinion on something. Do u guys think it is wise for Gerrard to retire from international football now if he decided to do so?
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By the way, i just want to ask u guys opinion on something. Do u guys think it is wise for Gerrard to retire from international football now if he decided to do so?
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he still not achieve anything from England squad, for sure he is not retiring
and i think England still need him, still remember his goal on WC 2010 smile.gif
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QUOTE(kamkamparadise @ Mar 23 2011, 01:43 PM)
By the way, i just want to ask u guys opinion on something. Do u guys think it is wise for Gerrard to retire from international football now if he decided to do so?
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If he decides so I wouldn't mind. After all England is in the process of rebuilding with young players coming in.

But if he continues to be selected for England, then I hope he plays with more attacking role and less defensive duty because he surely can't track back quick enough like he used to. I think he will continue to play if got selected. Surely he wants to add as many medal possible before retirement.
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I'd be delighted if Gerrard retires from international footy. Am not a fan of England and I'd hate for him to get injured playing some meaningless friendly when were fighting for points.


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thank you guys for your opinion.

From my point of view, with Gerrard getting injury prone and already reached his 30, i think it is wise for him to retire from international football. Truly, it is an honour for him to play for England, giving his heart and soul for his country but his physical won't allow him to do so anymore. this season only he's been out injured for few times. Of course, Liverpool fans wouldn't want him to came back from international duty injured. It is surely will be a loss for England if Gerrard retire but for Liverpool cause and ambition, it will be a major gain.
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good to hear that Liverpool coming to down.

at least the ticket price is not that expneisve..

coz in SG ..is damn expensive
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Aurelio got good cross, can put in in swinger cross, which defender generally has difficult time for such a cross, perfect match for Carroll aerial ability to score goal.

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Aurelio got good cross, can put in in swinger cross, which defender generally has difficult time for such a cross, perfect match for Carroll aerial ability to score goal.
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He's got a target on him. Defenders often close in on him. Thankfully, he has one of the best ariel ability I've seen in a long time. ( Since Shearer ). He can pass and score with his head. The scoring burden has been lifted off Gerrard finally. Not only that, free kicks and corners can be taken by other players too. I see the burden of lifting and pushing the team forward by Gerrard been lessen. It was horrendous seeing the two man team ( Torres & Gerrard ) last season. I myself felt it too.
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Aurelio got good cross, can put in in swinger cross, which defender generally has difficult time for such a cross, perfect match for Carroll aerial ability to score goal.
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Yup I still remember how his cross effortlessly found Crouch in his hatrick against Arsenal.
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I can't wait for them to come. Meanwhile this is a nice read:
Comolli on Kenny, Suarez and Caroll
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Great interview. I particularly like this part of the Q&A:

Andy Carroll also arrived on deadline day - how delighted were you to tie that deal up and bring him to the club?

Very, very pleased for two reasons. First, because we were getting a top player. He's young, English, with all the attributes you want from a modern centre-forward in the way we want to play. Secondly, because getting two players triggered the fact that we could sell one player who didn't want to be here and get two who did want to be here. That was really a relief for those reasons.

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QUOTE(kamkamparadise @ Mar 23 2011, 02:46 PM)
thank you guys for your opinion.

From my point of view, with Gerrard getting injury prone and already reached his 30, i think it is wise for him to retire from international football. Truly, it is an honour for him to play for England, giving his heart and soul for his country but his physical won't allow him to do so anymore. this season only he's been out injured for few times. Of course, Liverpool fans wouldn't want him to came back from international duty injured. It is surely will be a loss for England if Gerrard retire but for Liverpool cause and ambition, it will be a major gain.
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that's why I never supporting England, always hope they got knocked out at early stage in any tournament so our players can get more rest... (we use to have more England internationals back then).

P/S: Best candidate for Gerrard replacement would be Yoann Gourcuff (not base on FM) If you follow Ligue 1 then you should know how good he is. But of course it'll require a lot of money to get him.
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QUOTE(sahathai @ Mar 24 2011, 12:43 AM)
that's why I never supporting England, always hope they got knocked out at early stage in any tournament so our players can get more rest... (we use to have more England internationals back then).

P/S: Best candidate for Gerrard replacement would be Yoann Gourcuff (not base on FM) If you follow Ligue 1 then you should know how good he is. But of course it'll require a lot of money to get him.
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i think the best replacement for Gerrard could be Jay Spearing.
Spearing has a similar playing style as Gerrard, but he needs to be polish and given more playing time after this.
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spearing do the gob job during sunderland game...
he has bright future...
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spearing got no physical ability..i hope liverpool get this facts right stop buying short and soft players...sigh
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QUOTE(hellsoldier33 @ Mar 24 2011, 03:32 AM)
spearing got no physical ability..i hope liverpool get this facts right stop buying short and soft players...sigh
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Although he got good technical ability (better passing technique than Lucas i presume),he is just too soft for physical contact.i would prefer if liverpool keep hold of Aquilani and get 2-3 wingers this summer.
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QUOTE(kamkamparadise @ Mar 23 2011, 02:46 PM)
thank you guys for your opinion.

From my point of view, with Gerrard getting injury prone and already reached his 30, i think it is wise for him to retire from international football. Truly, it is an honour for him to play for England, giving his heart and soul for his country but his physical won't allow him to do so anymore. this season only he's been out injured for few times. Of course, Liverpool fans wouldn't want him to came back from international duty injured. It is surely will be a loss for England if Gerrard retire but for Liverpool cause and ambition, it will be a major gain.
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i don't think its possible as the euro 2012 is just around the corner and gerrard is still only 31 by then.probably if england still cant win the tourney,its a big possibility for him to retire with youngsters such as Wilshere starting to shines.

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playin 4-3-3 wuld be a good option for us next season

as adding young upfront with carrol + suarez

midfield adam n mvila

add a new lb.. we r good enough to challange the title then
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Spearing is a product of the academy. We didn't "buy" him. Don't overlook the fact that he is a local lad and former captain of the youth team that won back to back FA Cups. Whilst he isn't on the same level as Gerrard, his passion for the club and the game are invaluable. Is he soft? I've seen him make some hard challenges. Maybe I was watching a different game?
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 24 2011, 07:12 AM)
Spearing is a product of the academy. We didn't "buy" him. Don't overlook the fact that he is a local lad and former captain of the youth team that won back to back FA Cups. Whilst he isn't on the same level as Gerrard, his passion for the club and the game are invaluable. Is he soft? I've seen him make some hard challenges. Maybe I was watching a different game?
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home boy will be more passion..

short does not mean kenot make hard challenge..

like mascherano..
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QUOTE(hellsoldier33 @ Mar 24 2011, 03:32 AM)
spearing got no physical ability..i hope liverpool get this facts right stop buying short and soft players...sigh
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You need to watch more on how Spearing play before you make this conclusion. He might not be big in size, but he certainly ain't soft.
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For youngsters, one should never say never.

Nevertheless, Spearing has a long way to go to become another Sammy Lee or Steve Nicol or (I'm thinking of players of similar physical attributes who shone for the Reds).. Right now, he still looks clumsy at times, slow and easily tricked by clever opponents. He's got quite a good shot though.

If Gerrard is to be replaced, Charlie Adam may have a better impact in a much shorter time frame.

Having said that, I expect Gerrard to continue playing for us for at least one more season i.e. until the Euro, because the club will not want to deprive him a probable last chance to play in a major tournament for England. After that, he will probably have to accept a lesser role..
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QUOTE(hellsoldier33 @ Mar 24 2011, 03:32 AM)
spearing got no physical ability..i hope liverpool get this facts right stop buying short and soft players...sigh
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this is the common misconception that people has on short and small midfielders. spearing is not soft lad. you can see that when you watched him played.

international breaks is so annoying but this time around its just nice. suarez has minor injury against sunderland so he can rest properly for WBA game. hopefully none of our players that play international get injured as well. agger especially.


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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 24 2011, 07:12 AM)
Spearing is a product of the academy. We didn't "buy" him. Don't overlook the fact that he is a local lad and former captain of the youth team that won back to back FA Cups. Whilst he isn't on the same level as Gerrard, his passion for the club and the game are invaluable. Is he soft? I've seen him make some hard challenges. Maybe I was watching a different game?
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yes..i agree with you...
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u see what his contribution..

his vision is good too...
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take it if suarez and carrol got injured who gonna play upfront?
kuyt and ngog?
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QUOTE(DayahKuComeL @ Mar 24 2011, 11:38 AM)
take it if suarez and carrol got injured who gonna play upfront?
kuyt and ngog?
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pacheco is on loan with norwich now.. good luck to him ..
and good news .. Kuyt ready to sign new deal


Added on March 24, 2011, 11:48 amim hoping to see shelvey and spearing in midfield next season biggrin.gif

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I think KD should give Spearing more game time to develop his confidence. I thought he had a good game against Sunderland, winning the penalty and could have scored a screamer of not for a good save from the GK. I still remember his first team debut against Everton, when he was very shaky with the ball and stray passes.. Not many of those during last Sunday game. It's a very good sign from our a academy.
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QUOTE(sahathai @ Mar 24 2011, 12:43 AM)
that's why I never supporting England, always hope they got knocked out at early stage in any tournament so our players can get more rest... (we use to have more England internationals back then).

P/S: Best candidate for Gerrard replacement would be Yoann Gourcuff (not base on FM) If you follow Ligue 1 then you should know how good he is. But of course it'll require a lot of money to get him.
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Yoann Gourcuff eh? he certainly playing in Gerrard's positions, AM and CM but i doubt he can be a success England since he failed to make grade at AC Milan. But maybe that because of certain Andrea Pirlo was essential during his brief spell at Italy. he certainly a good midfielder though.

QUOTE(digitalove_70s @ Mar 24 2011, 03:45 AM)
+1.

Although he got good technical ability (better passing technique than Lucas i presume),he is just too soft for physical contact.i would prefer if liverpool keep hold of Aquilani and get 2-3 wingers this summer.
i DO hope Ashley Young would join us smile.gif


Added on March 24, 2011, 3:50 am

i don't think its possible as the euro 2012 is just around the corner and gerrard is still only 31 by then.probably if england still cant win the tourney,its a big possibility for him to retire with youngsters such as Wilshere starting to shines.
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spearing look aggresive to me. He remind me of Dennis Wise. maybe he won't win in term of body check with players like Yaya Toure, Fellaini but he certainly good at it.

QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 24 2011, 07:12 AM)
Spearing is a product of the academy. We didn't "buy" him. Don't overlook the fact that he is a local lad and former captain of the youth team that won back to back FA Cups. Whilst he isn't on the same level as Gerrard, his passion for the club and the game are invaluable. Is he soft? I've seen him make some hard challenges. Maybe I was watching a different game?
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Lest we forget, Hodgson used to play Kyrgiakos up front when we were chasing a goal in the same way Samba is pushed forward for Blackburn during desperate times.
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i think he meant they both look a like laugh.gif
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It's the ponytail D:
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QUOTE(Immunityx7 @ Mar 24 2011, 02:07 PM)
i think he meant they both look a like  laugh.gif
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It's the ponytail D:
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jay spearing has a bright future...
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I'd love Reds return, roars Rafa

Benitez: Would love to return to Liverpool


Rafael Benitez "dreams" of managing Liverpool again in the future and would consider offers from England, but not Everton or Manchester United.

The Spaniard only left Anfield last summer and while his successor Roy Hodgson lasted barely half a season, he himself was similarly unsuccessful at Inter Milan.

Benitez admits Kenny Dalglish is currently doing an impressive job in his role as caretaker boss until the end of the season, but concedes he would jump at the chance to resume his love affair with the Kop.

"I am really proud of being the manager of Liverpool Football Club and I would like to come back in the future," Benitez told Sky Sports News.

"You never know (when) because Kenny is doing a really good job. It's a question of time. You never know in the future.

"It would be a dream. I would be really pleased to come back in the future."

Benitez revealed he would consider other offers in England but would never contemplate managing Liverpool's rivals Everton and Manchester United.

"Fans in Liverpool know the teams I would not go (to) but I think these clubs wouldn't offer me a job.

"I'm a professional but obviously some clubs I would not go to, especially the big rivals of Liverpool. I won't say the names, but it's not difficult!"
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i dont mind Rafa wants back managing LFC,but for the time being i prefer KD to stay and manage us,cmon LFC!!!

p/s: hate international break,sigh
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Kenny Dalglish should be allowed to manage until he himself calls it quits and be allowed to groom his own successor - someone who values the traditions and cultures of LFC equally.

I hope Benitez (and even Houllier much as I liked him) will not be allowed back. Benitez preferred to buy success to the exclusion of youth development. I seem to get the impression that he bought youngsters for show and then loans them out or sells them off later.

I certainly cannot see him working with Comolli because he's the type who needs complete control.

The worse thing to happen is when he "ties his infamous strings" onto players like Suarez, Carroll, Kelly, Meireles etc.. and then "thugs at them" from the touchline as if he's flying some human kites .. killing every creative spark there is in them in the process.

I hope the club will regain the former passions and achieve again!
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rafa is the new manager and KD/sammy lee/steve clarke as his assistant .. ?? lol
lets just hope biggrin.gif
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if Liverpool is doing well & not in a crisis, kenny will be there a long time, there is little chance of rafa or any top manager into the position of LFc manager for a forseable future.

I wont even consider jose mourinho, if he comes knocking at john henry's door. He is only 'really' interested to come back to an expensive assembled team & chances are the team he wants most is fergies warm seat at Manu. He (jose) wont even stay long to build a team!

let the old times roll again under dalglish cool2.gif

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QUOTE(RedSiglap56 @ Mar 24 2011, 03:53 PM)
Kenny Dalglish should be allowed to manage until he himself calls it quits and be allowed to groom his own successor - someone who values the traditions and cultures of LFC equally.

I hope Benitez (and even Houllier much as I liked him) will not be allowed back. Benitez preferred to buy success to the exclusion of youth development.  I seem to get the impression that he bought youngsters for show and then loans them out or sells them off later. 


I certainly cannot see him working with Comolli because he's the type who needs complete control.

The worse thing to happen is when he "ties his infamous strings" onto players like Suarez, Carroll, Kelly, Meireles etc.. and then "thugs at them" from the touchline as if he's flying some human kites .. killing every creative spark there is in them in the process.


I hope the club will regain the former passions and achieve again!
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i agree RB will have hard time working with Commoli but the the statements that i bold is simply bollocks doesn't it?

1 - RB the one insist to rebuild the youth systems. he did not buy them for show.. wtf? he have to sell them because of he need to raise money to buy 1st team players. most the youth he bought still here ain't it? at least those that matters.

2 - infamous strings killing creative sparks? wah.. as i can remember we were playing beautiful football in 2007 - 2009. smashing club records along the way... maybe u can only remember his last year in the club.

RB wont be back so soon because I am 100% behind kenny to stay as manager as long as he can.. but RB (and GH) at least gets the recognitions that he deserved.
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we manage to beat most of top teams when rafa in charge but failed to win over smaller team
give him time, i think he can solved the problem
but i still hoping KD managed liverpool because he has unite the team and the fan
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http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=249365.0
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QUOTE(Immunityx7 @ Mar 24 2011, 08:26 PM)
we'll still have ppl won't & don't know how to sum these up & they won't read. not surprising as many of them have short term memory hmm.gif cool2.gif i'm pretty sure to some of them fell on their knees notworthy.gif when RH signed joe cole



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i agree RB will have hard time working with Commoli but the the statements that i bold is simply bollocks doesn't it?

1 - RB the one insist to rebuild the youth systems. he did not buy them for show.. wtf? he have to sell them because of he need to raise money to buy 1st team players. most the youth he bought still here ain't it? at least those that matters.

2 - infamous strings killing creative sparks? wah.. as i can remember we were playing beautiful football in 2007 - 2009. smashing club records along the way... maybe u can only remember his last year in the club.

RB wont be back so soon because I am 100% behind kenny to stay as manager as long as he can.. but RB (and GH) at least gets the recognitions that he deserved.
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"Bollocks" eh? There were more than a dozen youngsters he bought over the years, all of them labelled "promising" and "future stars". Only Lucas and Insua played more regularly in the first team - and Insua has left already. Who else are "those that matters"?

What you consider as "beautiful football" I saw as frustrating, one-dimensional football devoid of the sparkle of a successful team.

Anyway, I don't wish to re-open this argument with you because it is pointless now. The reason for my responding is because I don't think it's nice to disrespect another supporter's opinion the way you did. This is a forum right? and everyone's entitled to his/her opinions in such forums. You are entitled to yours and I won't belittle any of your opinions. Comments yes, belittling/disrespecting no.

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"Bollocks" eh? Well, please do read the link that Immunity posted and have a rethink.

How many young players he bought actually made a breakthrough to the first team? Can you name me a few of "those that matters"?

I'm actually trying rather hard to forget those frustrating seasons that RB was in charge ... and the amount of money he spent.

Please don't be too quick to bold-locks your fellow Reds supporter.
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you probably doesnt read that article right...

Total Players Bought: £228,976,000
Total Players Sold: £145,100,000

Total Net Spend: £83,876,000

84 million over 5 years? and the 09/10 season is only 10k pound spend?

Think how much money the club have gotten after he took the team to at least last 16 in CL almost every year. The profit from selling Torres is 30 millions. you know?

1 CL, 1 FA, 1 Super Cup, 1 Comm Shield and another CL final.. highest point collected by LFC in a season, record win, making LFC feared in Europe again.. yes I have rethink it again. If Rafa's last season was very hard in your memories.. how does the season before Houllier means to you? Even Houllier's last season was unbearable to watched.

Its not the success of the youth.. its how he have transformed the development youth systems. Houllier got the credit for transforming the way the team trained and kick the Spice Boys way of lifes. Rafa got for the youth.. even Kenny admit that.

I'm not defending Rafa blindly.. I just saying that he deserved some recognitions from us Reds.
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we shuld stick with kenny and not rafa...
the team n fan spirit is raising since he was charged...
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we shuld stick with kenny and not rafa...
the team n fan spirit is raising since he was charged...
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i dunt rate rafa tat highly but at least giv respect to him..

he waste lotsa money for the deadwood but he oso found afew players for bargain price
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and Rafa do attracts Spanish players here ...
I bet Torres wouldnt come to Liverpool at first if Rafa wasnt in charge at that time...
Luis Garcia, Josemi, Nunez, Alonso... hmmm =)
Not forgetting the Fernando Morientes as well... what a sad sad buy, at that moment, Rafa had the chance to get David Villa for 7million pound, but ended getting Morientes for 6m...
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Ashley Young
Charlie Adam
Gary Cahill
Matt Jarvis

with tis kind of summer target... can we challange the title?
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in KD we believe...

they also interested in signing AS Roma defender Philippe Mexes...


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in KD we believe...

they also interested in signing AS Roma defender Philippe Mexes...
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Philippe Mexes, this is a good defender, just hope we can hav him to replace Skrtel
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QUOTE(rushmode @ Mar 24 2011, 10:07 PM)
you probably doesnt read that article right...

Think how much money the club have gotten after he took the team to at least last 16 in CL almost every year. The profit from selling Torres is 30 millions. you know?

1 CL, 1 FA, 1 Super Cup, 1 Comm Shield and another CL final.. highest point collected by LFC in a season, record win, making LFC feared in Europe again.. yes I have rethink it again. If Rafa's last season was very hard in your memories.. how does the season before Houllier means to you? Even Houllier's last season was unbearable to watched.

Its not the success of the youth.. its how he have transformed the development youth systems. Houllier got the credit for transforming the way the team trained and kick the Spice Boys way of lifes. Rafa got for the youth.. even Kenny admit that.

I'm not defending Rafa blindly.. I just saying that he deserved some recognitions from us Reds.
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I read the article alright and I know that the writer was against RB getting the sack. However, in quoting all the "supporting evidence" for RB, he had inadvertently also underlined how much he spent in those 5 years and how little success we had : poor ROI!

Earning money from CL is not the same as winning the CL (which he did in the first season, largely with Houllier's players) and Torres was not sold by RB, by the way - cannot add that to RB's credit.

Actually, I am not blasting RB out of the blue. Yes every Liverpool manager deserve some recognition. Even RH should be acknowledged for bringing in Meireles and leading LFC's defeat of Chelski at Anfield - but we know that RH was simply not the right manager.

I was writing in the context of RB's hoping to come back to manage LFC ... my opinion (again) : he should never be allowed back!

But then, who am I?!...
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QUOTE(tgmape @ Mar 24 2011, 06:47 PM)
we manage to beat most of top teams when rafa in charge but failed to win over smaller team
give him time, i think he can solved the problem
but i still hoping KD managed liverpool because he has unite the team and the fan
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that is one thing that Rafa failed to bring to Liverpool. Harmony. Currently there aren't single Liverpool player complaining about not being happy under KD. either they really happy or prefer to keep it to themselves.

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Ashley Young
Charlie Adam
Gary Cahill
Matt Jarvis

with tis kind of summer target... can we challange the title?
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Depends on how KD will utilise them in his tactics.


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QUOTE(RedSiglap56 @ Mar 25 2011, 09:56 AM)
I read the article alright and I know that the writer was against RB getting the sack.  However, in quoting all the "supporting evidence" for RB, he had inadvertently also underlined how much he spent in those 5 years and how little success we had : poor ROI!

Earning money from CL is not the same as winning the CL (which he did in the first season, largely with Houllier's players) and Torres was not sold by RB, by the way - cannot add that to RB's credit.

Actually, I am not blasting RB out of the blue.  Yes every Liverpool manager deserve some recognition. Even RH should be acknowledged for bringing in Meireles and leading LFC's defeat of Chelski at Anfield - but we know that RH was simply not the right manager.

I was writing in the context of RB's hoping to come back to manage LFC ... my opinion (again) : he should never be allowed back!

But then, who am I?!...
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Liverpool FC's squad were never close in terms of depth when compared to Man Utd or Chelsea or to a certain extent, Arsenal. And among these, only Arsenal spent less than us in building a team. When Rafa came, his largest spending was before G&H's era and nobody could argue how well Liverpool FC were progressing, however, did Man Utd or Chelsea stop spending then? No, they were and still investing even till today.

Man Utd were crowned as the Premier League champions before they splurged 30 million pounds on Berbatov, so should we not spend more than 10k after getting a respectable 2nd place? Chelsea were champions last season, but they did not stop their spending, they bought Torres and Luiz, that's more than 70 million pounds spent without considering who they have bought before the start of the season.

Liverpool did buy Aquilani after selling Alonso and he failed in his first season due to injuries, Rafa's biggest mistake so far, but let's just see, Drogba took a while to start perform didn't he? Veron didn't come cheap as well. What about Shevchenko? Has Anderson live up to his value so far? Even the great Arsene Wenger failed at Francis Jeffers so Rafa must buy good all the time?

In terms of free transfer, ok, Rafa sucked at getting players for free, but I don't see Chamakh performing at Arsenal yet and he was highly rated. I have never heard of Voronin or Aurelio prior to their arrival at the club. So I would overlook such transfers.

I do not want Rafa back for now, but to call him a failure at Liverpool? I would defend him for the man deserves better recognition than that.

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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Mar 25 2011, 03:39 AM)
Ashley Young
Charlie Adam
Gary Cahill
Matt Jarvis

with tis kind of summer target... can we challange the title?
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kuyt adam gerrard young

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not bad.jarvis will have to settle for subs as will meireless,skrtel and lucas hmm.gif

i would definitely splash the cash on young.and i'd hope we could prise hazard and decent leftbacks.

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Bringing Rafa back will the a step in the wrong direction of you ask me. I've always been very vocal about my opinion on this matter. Forget the credentials. He simply cannot get along with the top brass at any club. It happened at Valencia, it happened here and it happened at Inter Milan. For the record, I think we played efficient football but with the exception of the final third of the 2008/2009 season, I think this we played beautiful football. Our opinions on what "beautiful football" constitutes may differ but I thought we were as interesting to watch as Mourinho's Chelsea, though nowhere near as boring as Houllier's team.

I don't think we need to revisit our argument on Rafa so I'm just going to say that given our current situation, it would not be wise to bring in a man who lost the dressing room. Morale is high at the moment and King Kenny is doing better than expected. Like I mentioned in an earlier post, he has accumulated more points in the time he's been in charge than any other Premier League team bar Arsenal. He also has the respect of the lads. The players look much happier now and I honestly believe that King Kenny is better at getting the best out of his players. Both have a stark contrast in their approach. Whilst Rafa is methodical and overly scientific at times, I won't find it surprising if all Kenny says before the lads step out on the pitch is, "alright lads, just go out there and have a good time". As Shankly once said, "Football is a simple game made complicated by people who should know better".
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Mar 25 2011, 03:39 AM)
Ashley Young
Charlie Adam
Gary Cahill
Matt Jarvis

with tis kind of summer target... can we challange the title?
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Ashley Young and Charlie Adam are great addition, don't think we able to get Gary Cahill. I'm not so sure about Matt Jarvis since I never watch him play. One thing though, we need better signing if we ever want to challenge for title. But our priority will be going back to top 4 next season.

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QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Mar 25 2011, 11:23 AM)
Liverpool FC's squad were never close in terms of depth when compared to Man Utd or Chelsea or to a certain extent, Arsenal. And among these, only Arsenal spent less than us in building a team. When Rafa came, his largest spending was before G&H's era and nobody could argue how well Liverpool FC were progressing, however, did Man Utd or Chelsea stop spending then? No, they were and still investing even till today.

Man Utd were crowned as the Premier League champions before they splurged 30 million pounds on Berbatov, so should we not spend more than 10k after getting a respectable 2nd place? Chelsea were champions last season, but they did not stop their spending, they bought Torres and Luiz, that's more than 70 million pounds spent without considering who they have bought before the start of the season. 

Liverpool did buy Aquilani after selling Alonso and he failed in his first season due to injuries, Rafa's biggest mistake so far, but let's just see, Drogba took a while to start perform didn't he? Veron didn't come cheap as well. What about Shevchenko? Has Anderson live up to his value so far? Even the great Arsene Wenger failed at Francis Jeffers so Rafa must buy good all the time?

In terms of free transfer, ok, Rafa sucked at getting players for free, but I don't see Chamakh performing at Arsenal yet and he was highly rated. I have never heard of Voronin or Aurelio prior to their arrival at the club. So I would overlook such transfers.

I do not want Rafa back for now, but to call him a failure at Liverpoo? I would defend him for the man deserves better recognition than that.
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Yes, this is what I'm trying to say.

I'm not in any way want Rafa to be back.. at least not very soon. Not especially when Kenny doing very good with the team now. Kenny over Rafa anytime at the moment.

If you read the Rafa's interview, he said it's his dream job to come back to Liverpool in the future.. Its not that he wanted the job now. nothing wrong with that. Its the same like any other ex-players that said the would like to come back and manage the team one day..

QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 25 2011, 12:02 PM)
Bringing Rafa back will the a step in the wrong direction of you ask me. I've always been very vocal about my opinion on this matter. Forget the credentials. He simply cannot get along with the top brass at any club. It happened at Valencia, it happened here and it happened at Inter Milan. For the record, I think we played efficient football but with the exception of the final third of the 2008/2009 season, I think this we played beautiful football. Our opinions on what "beautiful football" constitutes may differ but I thought we were as interesting to watch as Mourinho's Chelsea, though nowhere near as boring as Houllier's team.

I don't think we need to revisit our argument on Rafa so I'm just going to say that given our current situation, it would not be wise to bring in a man who lost the dressing room. Morale is high at the moment and King Kenny is doing better than expected. Like I mentioned in an earlier post, he has accumulated more points in the time he's been in charge than any other Premier League team bar Arsenal. He also has the respect of the lads. The players look much happier now and I honestly believe that King Kenny is better at getting the best out of his players. Both have a stark contrast in their approach. Whilst Rafa is methodical and overly scientific at times, I won't find it surprising if all Kenny says before the lads step out on the pitch is, "alright lads, just go out there and have a good time". As Shankly once said, "Football is a simple game made complicated by people who should know better".
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Fair play.. We all have different view on what is beautiful football.. Cheers!
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Matt Jarvis

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replace Jarvis with Hazard/Sanchez...plus a good cheap DM in M'vila..then we can dream nod.gif nod.gif
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not sure how much tis will cost but with this we r good enough to beat anyone... coentrao can be worth investing cz we may convert him like bale yow
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What about agger? What about meireles. Changing the whole structure will affect the team, what about kuyt?
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QUOTE(eugene_tan6 @ Mar 25 2011, 02:33 PM)
What about agger? What about meireles. Changing the whole structure will affect the team, what about kuyt?
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do u expect gerrard can play all games next season?
i say no.. he'll injured n injured.. tis is tis where lucas n meireles can fill the role..
same goes to kuyt..
gerrard injury really cause us much trouble tis season especially in europa where player like suarez unable to play.. team look really disjoint
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Earning money from CL is not the same as winning the CL (which he did in the first season, largely with Houllier's players) and Torres was not sold by RB, by the way - cannot add that to RB's credit.
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But now is not the time to come back, if ever. No offence. Good man, great professional, that is all.


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Anyone who reads the Chinese history of Romance of the 3 Kingdoms knows that once a great man in Chinese history said -

"A man with high morale fights like 100 men and fears no opponent he meets" - Guan Yu

And even after more than 1700 years later, it still holds true tongue.gif
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QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Mar 25 2011, 11:23 AM)
Liverpool FC's squad were never close in terms of depth when compared to Man Utd or Chelsea or to a certain extent, Arsenal. And among these, only Arsenal spent less than us in building a team. When Rafa came, his largest spending was before G&H's era and nobody could argue how well Liverpool FC were progressing, however, did Man Utd or Chelsea stop spending then? No, they were and still investing even till today.

Man Utd were crowned as the Premier League champions before they splurged 30 million pounds on Berbatov, so should we not spend more than 10k after getting a respectable 2nd place? Chelsea were champions last season, but they did not stop their spending, they bought Torres and Luiz, that's more than 70 million pounds spent without considering who they have bought before the start of the season. 

Liverpool did buy Aquilani after selling Alonso and he failed in his first season due to injuries, Rafa's biggest mistake so far, but let's just see, Drogba took a while to start perform didn't he? Veron didn't come cheap as well. What about Shevchenko? Has Anderson live up to his value so far? Even the great Arsene Wenger failed at Francis Jeffers so Rafa must buy good all the time?

In terms of free transfer, ok, Rafa sucked at getting players for free, but I don't see Chamakh performing at Arsenal yet and he was highly rated. I have never heard of Voronin or Aurelio prior to their arrival at the club. So I would overlook such transfers.

I do not want Rafa back for now, but to call him a failure at Liverpool? I would defend him for the man deserves better recognition than that.
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Failed at Francis Jeffers? I think it is more applicable for Jose Antonio Reyes =) Jeffers was just an average player...He wasnt meant to be a top class clinical goal scorer i guess, though he starts a number of games for Arsenal during his 2001 to 2004 period..


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Of course he did with GH players. Do you expect him to come in his first season and change the whole team so he can claim that he win [insert any cup here] with his own players?
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come on guys, we won't win harmony here. if he thinks gerard houllier team won the CL, be it then la.

Cant change his unchangable & to us we thinks his narrow mindset, himself, not. Houlliers team should not only won the europa (UEFA cup but 4 others) and should have thrashed the mights of europe in CL (no wait, i remember we struggled or missed to get into CL every season bar 1 - 2, struggled against bayer leverkusen. valencia, ....

its the same camp that's with rick parry then christian poulsen, all won't credit spanish gaffer.
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we should really get some wingers that can really cross. we never have any wingers at all...benayoun always go into middle..the last one is kewell...
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we should really get some wingers that can really cross. we never have any wingers at all...benayoun always go into middle..the last one is kewell...
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are we trying to play like AC Milan?
attack from the middle, slow building game.
flank attack using wing back?
hmmmm.....Can Carol play like this eh? i think he will prefer to have wingers who can feed him with crosses/ early crosses. blink.gif
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i like we play 4-3-3 where 2 strikers feed carrol...
CM hold n pass the ball..
and Side back regularly overlapping ^^''

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i like we play 4-3-3 where 2 strikers feed carrol...
CM hold n pass the ball..
and Side back regularly overlapping ^^''
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But Kenny must have his reasons for not playing 4-3-3.
Like in the Sunderland game, he preferred to play Meireles out wide left instead of playing 4-3-3 and let the fullbacks working on the flanks..
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QUOTE(stargazer_7 @ Mar 26 2011, 02:45 AM)
But Kenny must have his reasons for not playing 4-3-3.
Like in the Sunderland game, he preferred to play Meireles out wide left instead of playing 4-3-3 and let the fullbacks working on the flanks..
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QUOTE(jason18689 @ Mar 25 2011, 07:54 PM)
Failed at Francis Jeffers? I think it is more applicable for Jose Antonio Reyes =) Jeffers was just an average player...He wasnt meant to be a top class clinical goal scorer i guess, though he starts a number of games for Arsenal during his 2001 to 2004 period..
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QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Mar 26 2011, 03:38 PM)
8 million pounds back then in 2001 was huge money, but ya, Jose Antonio Reyes as well, smile.gif Evidence shows, Arsene Wenger isn't flawless when it comes to transfers, just less mistakes.
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too harsh flaming wenger for juz tat mistake.. rafa made alot of mistake during his time like the mystery of keane, injury prone aquaman.. 40m can oredy buy aguero yow.. not to tell face like dossena/babel/palleta... collect all those maybe we can buy messi unsure.gif
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Mar 26 2011, 07:07 PM)
too harsh flaming wenger for juz tat mistake.. rafa made alot of mistake during his time like the mystery of keane, injury prone aquaman.. 40m can oredy buy aguero yow.. not to tell face like dossena/babel/palleta... collect all those maybe we can buy messi  unsure.gif
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How was I flaming Arsene Wenger? I was just pointing out that even the great Arsene does mistakes in transfer.

Keane was a failed purchase but how many of us were excited of his arrival? The same goes to Babel.

If buying 1 top class player can replace the hole that we have then why not? We buy Aguero to complement Torres but leave a big gap on our left back position, why not? We buy Messi, but there's no holding midfielder, why not? Not forgetting, Rafa bought to fit the players to his tactics, this isn't Football Manager sir. Granted Aquilani's a bad buy, but don't forget how long did Berbatov and Drogba take to live up to their price tag?

If you prefer to point out transfer mistakes, I can tell you a whole list of players that Jose Mourinho and Alex Ferguson bought that failed. High and low profile ones, but that's another topic for another day.

I would have nothing to argue if one were to call him a control freak because he is and neither would I defend him if one were to say that he lost the dressing room. He makes mistakes, like us humans, like your boss, we tend to misjudge a person's capability, but did Rafa not do well with his damage control? IF your boss were to hire an underachiever with a huge paycheck, would your boss ask him to stop working or just move on and say that damage has been done?

Keane's transfer didn't happen in the same transfer window or the same season as Aquilani by the way, so would G&H approve the Aguero transfer? Or would the money go to the bank as interest payment?
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Ole, O'Shea, Ferdinand support Liverpool sweat.gif

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no faizal tahir?
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Added on March 27, 2011, 7:28 pmIt was well publicized that the Pope was a Liverpool fan hence the song about Man Utd going to Rome to see the Pope (http://terracechants.me.uk/chant/1431). Not sure when he started to support the club though. Maybe Rome '84 had something to do with it. Maybe it was divine influence and not Grobbelar's spaghetti legs routine that helped us:)

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The Reds skipper also claimed the club were right to part company with Roy Hodgson following a difficult start to the former Fulham boss' tenure at Anfield.

'When the Liverpool fans turn against you you have to listen,' said Gerrard. 'They are Liverpool Football Club.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...l#ixzz1HoM0xtzP
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Liverpool defender Jamie Carragher admits tackle on Nani 'took the shine off' of victory over Manchester United

Centre back reveals he apologised and was relieved to see Portuguese international training shortly after high challenge that left winger with huge gash in his leg

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Jamie Carragher has acknowledged his “terrible tackle” on Manchester United winger Nani overshadowed Liverpool’s staggering 3-1 win over their long-time rivals.

The Reds hosted Sir Alex Ferguson’s side in March and Anfield saw Dirk Kuyt net a hat-trick as Luis Suarez starred in the victory.

However, Carragher was booked just before half-time for a high challenge, catching Nani in the shin which left a deep gash and prompted the medical team to stretcher him off the field.

Nani, who returned to action two weeks after the contact for United’s Champions League game against Marseille, criticised the 33-year-old for his dangerous tackle.

The experienced defender admits he was relieved that his challenge had no hugely serious consequences for Nani.

"It was a terrible tackle," Carragher told Goals on Sunday.

"I apologised to the lad after the game. I think he was training again after a week, fortunately.

"He's been one of the best players this year - not just at Man Utd but in the league.

"I'd just gone to full-back and he'd just switched sides. I'm not stupid - I know Fergie was thinking 'Let's get at him'.

"So I thought I'd try and get as tight as I could. He slightly mis-controlled the ball and I thought I could get it.

"We beat Man Utd, great win - but it took the shine off it a bit later on when I watched it.

"I spoke to Michael Owen a few days later to find out how the lad was doing and I was pleased he was okay."
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class act from carra!...and watching nani played again after 2 weeks on the sideline surely a big relief for him
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This issue will never go to rest ever. MU fans will remember this tackle and brand it "dirty".
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 27 2011, 07:19 PM)
Incidentally if any of you have not watched The 51st State starring Samuel L. Jackson, Meatloaf and Robert Carlyle who plays a passionate Liverpool fan, go download it. Look for the scene where Carlyle walks into a manc pub smile.gif
ah hell, this movie, i remember it! He walk into the the mac club and started chanting "liverpool! Liverpool!" haha! And when Meat Loaf exploded excatly when Smicer scores the goal at Anfield rclxms.gif I was 15 at this time, memories biggrin.gif
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Liverpool is coming to Malaysia this July. Anyone know when will the tickets be selling and where will they sell it?
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/646588-...ical-conclusion
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Faizal Tahir is awesome man. He sang the YNWA anthem during 4-4-2.
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Also, I really hope we can win all the remaining... Although there's a slightly good chance I think... still got hope

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one of the best YNWA rclxms.gif rclxms.gif



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city remaining matches is easier than liverpool, with CL spot at stake, i dont think they will drop that much point. i do fancy us having a chance at 5th spot, hopefully with spurs getting distracted from CL
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Paul Konchesky - one of the final signings of the Hicks & Gillett era - is expected to complete a £1.5million move back to former club Fulham at the end of the season, ending his nightmare spell at Liverpool.

oh thank God!
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Lille boss makes Hazard 'super offer' claim

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/media-watch...per-offer-claim
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Lille boss makes Hazard 'super offer' claim

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/media-watch...per-offer-claim
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way too many clubs going for this guy...price gonna boom

and our former number 9 takes another shot at us

http://nz.sports.yahoo.com/football/news/a...e-all-problems/
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other club will start to take and advantage to get our money...
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way too many clubs going for this guy...price gonna boom

and our former number 9 takes another shot at us

http://nz.sports.yahoo.com/football/news/a...e-all-problems/
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QUOTE(Dal 49 minutes ago)
"but at Liverpool it was all problems". Yes, they were called Fernando Torres.


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pressure of being a 50million man is getting to his head...anyways he played well for us and i for one am glad he gave me something to shout about for the past few years...
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way too many clubs going for this guy...price gonna boom

and our former number 9 takes another shot at us

http://nz.sports.yahoo.com/football/news/a...e-all-problems/
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y cant he just stfu and do his job at chelsea  doh.gif
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rather take Alexis Sanchez than Eden Hazard..
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They are just being sore losers.

QUOTE(chenwfng @ Mar 28 2011, 11:40 AM)
This issue will never go to rest ever. MU fans will remember this tackle and brand it "dirty".
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QUOTE(tgmape @ Mar 28 2011, 04:40 PM)
The Mathematics

Man City
Last 8 matches: 11 points

Projected Points finish: 64

Tottenham
Last 9 matches: 13 points

Projected Points finish: 62

Liverpool
Last 8 matches: 19 points

Projected Points finish: 64
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Mathematics won't be much of a help unless we win the upcoming tough fixtures ahead. We have Man City and Arsenal in April.
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A few days ago I touched on the subject of "The Liverpool Way". Interesting read I stumbled across on RAWK regarding the dilution of "The Liverpool Way". Do have a read. It's important that we do not allow it to be lost for good.

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Torres has stabbed us and thts really unprofessional of him. LFC has never bad-talk abt him! sure we are not happy abt his departure but the way he played for us this season also shows his heart not with LFC.

he took the opportunity for another team and we took the money...dont be a cry baby just bcos u cant score...yet. nod.gif
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KD will do good as a good Manager, however, Mourinho will be a good second choice if funds is available to him.
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your jose mourino wants probably a nett spend on transfer budget.

liverpoolfc will probably go bankrupt faster than we pick up any sign of trophies. I dont get it. ppl always criticize rafa for over-spending (they never read between that he sold to raise funds before buying & often picking free transfers (what to do we aren't big budgetted as manu, man cy, chelsea, Rmadrid etc)

even if this is not true (link below), but given in all the previous clubs he managed, he aint into investing & regroup/priorities the clubs academy, he's not there for long term for a club but to buy success. only 3 english clubs that he eyes in return to EPL, Manu, chelsea, man cy, in that particular order.

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Jose Mourinho has demanded a salary of 20 million-a-year and a transfer budget of £150 million to return to the Premier League.

Forty-eight-year-old Mourinho has been made aware of two potential Premier League suitors via his agent Jorge Mendes, the Daily Express reports.

Currently he earns £10 million a year at the Bernabeu and is already the world’s highest-paid manager.

Mourinho, who has won the Champions League with Porto and Inter and two Premier League titles at Chelsea, believes he is on the verge of big things with Real Madrid.

He also acknowledged his plans to return to England in the near future.

“I have never hidden my desire to return to England some day but there are three years left on my contract. I intend to see them through and maybe even carry on with a new contract,” he said.

“We are on the right path and titles will come either this season or next. My teams usually do better in the second season,” he added.


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WE still got match against Spurs, Arsengal and Man City..
Spurs and Man City i think we can win..
I hope by the time we are up against Arsenal, Carroll & Suarez already in good form..then maybe we can finish above Man City & Spurs..
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QUOTE(balibiz @ Mar 29 2011, 01:04 PM)
Torres has stabbed us and thts really unprofessional of him. LFC has never bad-talk abt him! sure we are not happy abt his departure but the way he played for us this season also shows his heart not with LFC.

he took the opportunity for another team and we took the money...dont be a cry baby just bcos u cant score...yet. nod.gif
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Same can be said for our fans, no? Stop whining and cursing just because he's gone.

Before being defensive let's look at the situation shall we? He's continously cited how things were bad at Liverpool, and how there were many problems. Is this true? If it isn't, then let's defend our position but sometimes you have to call a spade, a spade. Fact is we were in bad shape pre-Kenny. You think Torres calls up the media to tell them these things because he has nothing better to do? If it's in the press, it's because the media ask him questions and he's giving an honest assessment of what the situation was. Are the problems he's cited not the same we've been complaining about? About how the owners screwed the club over. About how morale was low. About how we look like we were on a decline, especially under Hodgson. He's never had a bad thing to say about the fans has he? He has never disrespected the traditions at the club has he?
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Paul Konchesky - one of the final signings of the Hicks & Gillett era - is expected to complete a £1.5million move back to former club Fulham at the end of the season, ending his nightmare spell at Liverpool.

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 29 2011, 02:05 PM)
Same can be said for our fans, no? Stop whining and cursing just because he's gone.

Before being defensive let's look at the situation shall we? He's continously cited how things were bad at Liverpool, and how there were many problems. Is this true? If it isn't, then let's defend our position but sometimes you have to call a spade, a spade. Fact is we were in bad shape pre-Kenny. You think Torres calls up the media to tell them these things because he has nothing better to do? If it's in the press, it's because the media ask him questions and he's giving an honest assessment of what the situation was. Are the problems he's cited not the same we've been complaining about? About how the owners screwed the club over. About how morale was low. About how we look like we were on a decline, especially under Hodgson. He's never had a bad thing to say about the fans has he? He has never disrespected the traditions at the club has he?
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my point of view is he have the choice of not answering these kinda questions. or just saying LFC is the past so no point talking about it again. if he repeat saying this everytime the press ask then it will stop coming. its not like he dont know how to lie abit.

i closed my books on torres long ago. suarez instantly replaced him.. and soon carroll. other fans should do the same. no need to be bitters anymore.
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QUOTE(rushmode @ Mar 29 2011, 03:11 PM)
my point of view is he have the choice of not answering these kinda questions. or just saying LFC is the past so no point talking about it again. if he repeat saying this everytime the press ask then it will stop coming. its not like he dont know how to lie abit.

i closed my books on torres long ago. suarez instantly replaced him.. and soon carroll. other fans should do the same. no need to be bitters anymore.
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Honestly speaking. Rant or no rant by Torres about Liverpool. I don't feel a thing. Sometimes it might not sound as bad as it is. It's the media. So, whatever you guys are feeling when he "rants" just treat it as a joke. I laugh every time the media says Torres is taking a swipe at Liverpool.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 29 2011, 02:05 PM)
Same can be said for our fans, no? Stop whining and cursing just because he's gone.

Before being defensive let's look at the situation shall we? He's continously cited how things were bad at Liverpool, and how there were many problems. Is this true? If it isn't, then let's defend our position but sometimes you have to call a spade, a spade. Fact is we were in bad shape pre-Kenny. You think Torres calls up the media to tell them these things because he has nothing better to do? If it's in the press, it's because the media ask him questions and he's giving an honest assessment of what the situation was. Are the problems he's cited not the same we've been complaining about? About how the owners screwed the club over. About how morale was low. About how we look like we were on a decline, especially under Hodgson. He's never had a bad thing to say about the fans has he? He has never disrespected the traditions at the club has he?
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well i think most of us just can't help it with the whining and cursing. The manner in which he chose to leave Liverpool has influenced the reaction he received from the supporters. Said wouldn't move to another premier league club(did that) and said would stay in Liverpool years to come(couple of months we see him packing).When there's a problem you face it, you don't run away. He could have a stayed till the end of the season and help our rising at least. But what has happen turn out to be a blessing in disguise...we brought in two good players and the future looks bright i might say
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QUOTE(chenwfng @ Mar 29 2011, 03:17 PM)
Honestly speaking. Rant or no rant by Torres about Liverpool. I don't feel a thing. Sometimes it might not sound as bad as it is. It's the media. So, whatever you guys are feeling when he "rants" just treat it as a joke. I laugh every time the media says Torres is taking a swipe at Liverpool.
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6W 2D 2L.........not bad eh?

no need to look back or think about the past.

i already given up on reading all those news from 3rd party, unless the official website publish it.
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QUOTE(shenmue @ Mar 29 2011, 03:24 PM)
well i think most of us just can't help it with the whining and cursing. The manner in which he chose to leave Liverpool has influenced the reaction he received from the supporters. Said wouldn't move to another premier league club(did that) and said would stay in Liverpool years to come(couple of months we see him packing).When there's a problem you face it, you don't run away. He could have a stayed till the end of the season and help our rising at least. But what has happen turn out to be a blessing in disguise...we brought in two good players and the future looks bright i might say
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I don't agree with how he left either. Like I said much earlier though, you have to ask yourself if you really meant it when you uttered the name "Fernando Torres" and "You'll Never Walk Alone" in the same sentence? I did. Just because Torres is somewhat of a hypocrite, it doesn't mean we have to be as well. He may be gone from us but it still puts a smile on my face whenever the Torres song plays in my head.
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say abit, whine, say abit, whine.

i bet even if he said "no comment" every time the media asks him something related to liverpool, sure a bunch of you will have something to say about him.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 29 2011, 03:30 PM)
I don't agree with how he left either. Like I said much earlier though, you have to ask yourself if you really meant it when you uttered the name "Fernando Torres" and "You'll Never Walk Alone" in the same sentence? I did. Just because Torres is somewhat of a hypocrite, it doesn't mean we have to be as well. He may be gone from us but it still puts a smile on my face whenever the Torres song plays in my head.
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well watever it is, he could always answer "no comment" to the media as they are just doing their job to fish a good story. or maybe answer their questions with a smart "tai-chi" remark. surely the blues has got their communication team to work on Torres. or maybe its the whole idea to answer the way he has?! too many theories in my head...

anyway, indeed Torres has given us good memories and just like rushmode and chenwfng comments "no feeling aldy aka sudah lali". cool2.gif
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QUOTE(madfag @ Mar 29 2011, 03:36 PM)
say abit, whine, say abit, whine.

i bet even if he said "no comment" every time the media asks him something related to liverpool, sure a bunch of you will have something to say about him.
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He can choose to tell us his happy memory during his time here. Look at Alonso, he choose to leave because he can no longer trust Rafa, yet time and time again he still show concern to Liverpool. This is what makes us fans still love and respect him.

Torres have been exactly the opposite, there is no problem if he want to praise Chelsea to sky. But why need to compare to Liverpool? Why every time when reporter ask him questions, he choose to give the negative part of the story?

Fans are after all, still humans. Don't tell me when an ex-Chelsea player talk bad about you guys, you will not upset.
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QUOTE(balibiz @ Mar 29 2011, 03:44 PM)
well watever it is, he could always answer "no comment" to the media as they are just doing their job to fish a good story. or maybe answer their questions with a smart "tai-chi" remark. surely the blues has got their communication team to work on Torres. or maybe its the whole idea to answer the way he has?! too many theories in my head...

anyway, indeed Torres has given us good memories and just like rushmode and chenwfng comments "no feeling aldy aka sudah lali".  cool2.gif
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Admit that I was as heartbroken as many Liverpool supporters all over the world, some may say this is football, players come and go but this is different, the very mention of the name Torres and the first thing that comes to people's mind is "Liverpool's number 9". It's been long enough and time has healed the wounds in a form of Suarez and Carroll. Even without the acquisition of Suarez and Carroll, it is a thing of the past. I still laugh at how the media suggest Torres is "taking swipes" at Liverpool and even if he was really doing so, I'd still laugh.
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QUOTE(madfag @ Mar 29 2011, 03:36 PM)
say abit, whine, say abit, whine.

i bet even if he said "no comment" every time the media asks him something related to liverpool, sure a bunch of you will have something to say about him.
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Torres probably does feel a bit lonely. Still not performing, fans still not warming to him, not able to gel with new team mates...

Despite the less than ideal parting, let us cut him some slack. For what he's done for us before, that is the least he deserves.
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class act from carra!...and watching nani played again after 2 weeks on the sideline surely a big relief for him
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QUOTE(znydz @ Mar 29 2011, 01:10 PM)
WE still got match against Spurs, Arsengal and Man City..
Spurs and Man City i think we can win..
I hope by the time we are up against Arsenal, Carroll & Suarez already in good form..then maybe we can finish above Man City & Spurs..
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 29 2011, 02:05 PM)
Same can be said for our fans, no? Stop whining and cursing just because he's gone.

Before being defensive let's look at the situation shall we? He's continously cited how things were bad at Liverpool, and how there were many problems. Is this true? If it isn't, then let's defend our position but sometimes you have to call a spade, a spade. Fact is we were in bad shape pre-Kenny. You think Torres calls up the media to tell them these things because he has nothing better to do? If it's in the press, it's because the media ask him questions and he's giving an honest assessment of what the situation was. Are the problems he's cited not the same we've been complaining about? About how the owners screwed the club over. About how morale was low. About how we look like we were on a decline, especially under Hodgson. He's never had a bad thing to say about the fans has he? He has never disrespected the traditions at the club has he?
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u got a point there. maybe he just being honest. instead of making up stories, i think he just revealing what is really happen. but of course, most of us view that as a criticism.
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If you read the whole interview, Torres didn't actually deliberately taking a swipe at us. Rather, he's taking a swipe at the previous owners and such. I think he didn't like the fact that many players came and left Liverpool during his time.

Read this part of the interview :

"I wouldn't have joined Manchester United out of respect for the Liverpool fans, I wouldn't sign for Real Madrid because of my support for Atlético. Barcelona don't need my type of player and Italy doesn't attract me, which meant it had to be Chelsea.

"They were the only ones where I could go and also improve myself. I'd started to take the decision to leave when the stream of sales started with Crouch and Arbeloa then Xabi Alonso and Javier Mascherano were all sold."


I still believe he love Liverpool and it's history, but he's more into himself rather than the club. And the way he left us and the way he replied to the interviewer is making the media happy, by making it controversial and so called "taking swipe at Liverpool FC". Here is the part where he mention this :

"Javier Mascherano did many good things for Liverpool but they did not treat him well when he left," Torres told Sport.

"It is a complicated situation when you leave a club but footballers always want to move forward, chase what he believes is better, because we only have eight or 10 good years."


Carragher mentioned too that he kept a lot of things to himself during his stay with us. He's more like a loner guy and tries to achieve everything by himself. Duke Red said before that he can even abandon his childhood club of Atletico to chase for trophies, but unfortunately he didn't get any with us. So he decided he can't wait anymore and moved on.

Fair play to him, if he were here when Fenway Group/King Kenny was here earlier, then it might have been different. But oh well...it's fate.
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Carroll is going to play some part in a friendly tonight. Let's hope he come out of it unscathed. Well I prefer if he doesn't play at all. But it will be good for his confidence if he can get a goal or two.
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I'm so sick of see-ing fans advising others what they can do and can't do. For goodness sake, let them say what they want to say and that's it lah. Stop making an argument over small matter lah. Humans are still humans lah..
In the end, no player will ever be greater than the club. Players like torres come and go but memories will always stay.


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QUOTE(eugene_tan6 @ Mar 29 2011, 05:18 PM)
I'm so sick of see-ing fans advising others what they can do and can't do. For goodness sake lah, you're not their parents, you're not their teachers. Let them say what they want to say and that's it lah. Stop making an argument over small matter lah. You're not the only one living lah, hello? Talk about being good fans for LFC, humans are still humans lah eh. Who are you to control what others can say and not?  doh.gif
In the end, no player will ever be greater than the club. Players like torres come and go but memories will always stay.
if you dont respect the man itself, please respect the chair....Duke try to educate us how to be a 'best fans of the world'...not some people blindly support their club or so. if you not agree of what he is saying,..please do state your opinion and views...and if its different, then we should agree to disagree. Why ask someone to follow what you thinking? Is it the same things to control others?

In torres case, he should go silence, no comment, ...when we related it as a lover, like Duke example, Torres is the one that we ask 'why we should badmouth our ex gf/bf when we being apart?" we should be friend and treat them nicely eventhough he/she not meant to be with us"

Then its Torres fault that he is still moaning about our club
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There we go again, I'm not directing that to anybody here. I'm just saying humans will be humans. Once again, my final post regarding this BS. smile.gif

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human will be human and thats is why they human will cont to throw their comment and opinion.

they gonna say 'my lips, my voice'.
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Is the match against Ghana euro 2012 qualifiers or the U21?
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Is the match against Ghana euro 2012 qualifiers or the U21?
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heard it is for U21...correct me if im wrong.

anybody know what time the game will kick off? (sorry i cant surf too much as the IT admin had blocked so many website sad.gif )
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QUOTE(eugene_tan6 @ Mar 29 2011, 05:18 PM)
I'm so sick of see-ing fans advising others what they can do and can't do. For goodness sake, let them say what they want to say and that's it lah. Stop making an argument over small matter lah. Humans are still humans lah..
In the end, no player will ever be greater than the club. Players like torres come and go but memories will always stay.
Get used to it. It isn't any different from you or any other poster posting an opinion. The reason you do so is to encourage people to see your point of view. Same as those who try to convince everyone that Torres should be treated like scum. Where there is no right and wrong, we need to find a set of rules. In my opinion, this should be when we look at the principles and values which form the foundation of the club. If not for these values, we are no different from any other football club.

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 29 2011, 07:38 PM)
Get used to it. It isn't any different from you or any other poster posting an opinion. The reason you do so is to encourage people to see your point of view. Same as those who try to convince everyone that Torres should be treated like scum. Where there is no right and wrong, we need to find a set of rules. In my opinion, this should be when we look at the principles and values which form the foundation of the club. If not for these values, we are no different from any other football club.
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rightly said, the arrogance within some lfc 'fans' can be done without, who cant differentiate respect, morality, acknowledgment, fans behaving badly just because they can't or too arogant to read between the lines, somehow its easily identifiable/similar to such behavioral of such fans of a certain other football club thats the most hated in UK.
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Is the match against Ghana euro 2012 qualifiers or the U21?
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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Mar 29 2011, 06:06 PM)
heard it is for U21...correct me if im wrong.

anybody know what time the game will kick off? (sorry i cant surf too much as the IT admin had blocked so many website  sad.gif )
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Ghana is an African country.

If you are asking if it is a senior friendly or an U21 friendly, it is supposedly a 'senior' game, minus of course the players from clubs whose managers Capello is too afraid of offending.

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Mar 29 2011, 07:02 PM)
rightly said, the arrogance within some lfc 'fans' can be done without, who cant differentiate respect, morality, acknowledgment, fans behaving badly just because they can't or too arogant to read between the lines, somehow its easily identifiable/similar to such behavioral of such fans of a certain other football club thats the most hated in UK.
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You calling me arrogant? You're saying I'm not a lfc 'fan'? Wow.. You're saying I don't know how to differentiate respect? My goodness, I know how to respect alright. Are the people judging others any different, I'm sorry just can't help it. See-ing such ridiculous posts boils me up. If you're questioning my love for the club, ohoh you're doing a big mistake my friend. And why don't you get used to the fact that there will always be a forumer coming up once in a while and will surely bring up Torres sulking up once in a while. I'm not aiming directly at you, I'm just telling you that people will be people and there's nothing you can do about it. No offense intended. enough is enough, arguments between one another bring no good. I know the rules, I'm not cursing at other clubs and I'm not trying to start a fight here. Who would want to fight with another Liverpool-ian right? nod.gif Duke Red, I understand how you feel mate, if I've offended you. You have all the apologies I can give. Peace? sweat.gif

You don't know me in real life, so don't be too quick too judge. wink.gif That's some human error man. Hahaha

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Reading comprehension is such a dear commodity nowadays.
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Ok, lets divert our attention to Andy Carroll now. Apparently he also have the drinking problem. Capello already issued a reminder to Andy Carroll to drink less.

Andy Carroll with Booze

I think all football fans knows english footballer problem with drinking. Famous names involved such as Tony Adams and Paul Gascoine. I really hope Carroll would change his habit so that it won't affect him for many years to come.
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he did have some off-field problems during his time in newcastle...if its fergie i think he would receive some hairdryer treatment...dunno bout kenny though
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QUOTE(kamkamparadise @ Mar 29 2011, 08:44 PM)
Ok, lets divert our attention to Andy Carroll now. Apparently he also have the drinking problem. Capello already issued a reminder to Andy Carroll to drink less.

Andy Carroll with Booze

I think all football fans knows english footballer problem with drinking. Famous names involved such as Tony Adams and Paul Gascoine. I really hope Carroll would change his habit so that it won't affect him for many years to come.
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Just read some of the comment on RAWK reagrding this issue. Have to agree with them. Why does Capello has to bring this issue up and focus on Carroll alone when there are many England players with off field issues
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There we go again, I'm not directing that to anybody here. I'm just saying humans will be humans. Once again, my final post regarding this BS. smile.gif
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hypocrite, ask ppl not to lecture others but you lecture pulak.

What's wrong with Duke Red's post by the way, I do not agree to what he said but it was sensible wasn't it? I often keep quiet here, but it doesn't mean that I agree with what you all said, I have a job, I have a life, if you have problems over people sharing some thoughts, then I'd say that you should not visit any forums then, forums are after all, places where people exchange opinions and knowledge.


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Carroll scored for englnd!!!
kuyt always score when it comes to international level ..
btw milan baros is with which club now ??

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Kuyt 2.

this is great, boosting their confidence, esp carroll !!!
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any link to see carroll scores for england?? rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(eugene_tan6 @ Mar 29 2011, 07:46 PM)
You calling me arrogant? You're saying I'm not a lfc 'fan'? Wow.. You're saying I don't know how to differentiate respect? My goodness, I know how to respect alright. Are the people judging others any different, I'm sorry just can't help it. See-ing such ridiculous posts boils me up. If you're questioning my love for the club, ohoh you're doing a big mistake my friend. And why don't you get used to the fact that there will always be a forumer coming up once in a while and will surely bring up Torres sulking up once in a while. I'm not aiming directly at you, I'm just telling you that people will be people and there's nothing you can do about it. No offense intended. enough is enough, arguments between one another bring no good. I know the rules, I'm not cursing at other clubs and I'm not trying to start a fight here. Who would want to fight with another Liverpool-ian right?  nod.gif Duke Red, I understand how you feel mate, if I've offended you. You have all the apologies I can give. Peace?  sweat.gif

You don't know me in real life, so don't be too quick too judge. wink.gif That's some human error man. Hahaha
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I think you can tell from the tone of my post that I'm not offended at all. I don't pretend to understand the Liverpool Way all that well. I only know what I've read but I truly believe as suggested by the article I posted earlier that it is becoming diluted. It's sad because it's what gives this club meaning and it's what sets us apart from everyone else.

When Alan Ball signed for Everton, Bill Shankly rang him up and told him, "nevermind, at least you'll be playing next to a great team". Different context perhaps but the point is that even when taking the piss, there isn't a need to be vindictive. Fans calling up Gerrard's home to issue death threats when he considered leaving, burning his kit, burning Torres' kit, this isn't what we are about. As Dalglish said, when burning jerseys with the players names on them, they also burned our club crest.

I know I sound like I'm no fun at all but believe me, I'm different in person. Only when it comes to this issue as I feel it is important for all of us to know who we are, what we stand for, and what sets us apart.


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QUOTE(kamkamparadise @ Mar 29 2011, 08:44 PM)
Ok, lets divert our attention to Andy Carroll now. Apparently he also have the drinking problem. Capello already issued a reminder to Andy Carroll to drink less.

Andy Carroll with Booze

I think all football fans knows english footballer problem with drinking. Famous names involved such as Tony Adams and Paul Gascoine. I really hope Carroll would change his habit so that it won't affect him for many years to come.
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It's a known fact. Bloke once ordered 30 Jagerbombs, fell off his stool and injured himself in the process. I know other players drink but most have families and don't get wild too often. Carroll is a pisshead. I'm not surprised Capello brought this up being the disciplinarian he is.

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found it!!..and its not a header!! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(shenmue @ Mar 29 2011, 09:04 PM)
he did have some off-field problems during his time in newcastle...if its fergie i think he would receive some hairdryer treatment...dunno bout kenny though
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well, diferent manager different style of handling players. while SAF is a hair dryer type, KD might be more of a father figure. accompany Carroll to boyzone concert is one of them. both have its advantage and disadvantage.

QUOTE(farisq @ Mar 29 2011, 10:09 PM)
Just read some of the comment on RAWK reagrding this issue. Have to agree with them. Why does Capello has to bring this issue up and focus on Carroll alone when there are many England players with off field issues
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if we look into current England squad, currently not many players into the hot water. at least not under the media spotlight apart from Rooney with his hooker problem and Carroll with his price tag following the move to Liverpool. The likes of Wilshere on have issue on his game play approach early in the season. other than that almost all players are quite clean. Maybe Capello just would like to remind Carroll so that he won't destroy his career because of booze. u know when a player started to gain fame and fortune, player will certainly will start to be carried away.

QUOTE(mkaz @ Mar 30 2011, 04:07 AM)
Carroll scored for englnd!!!
kuyt always score when it comes to international level ..
btw milan baros is with which club now ??
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 30 2011, 09:01 AM)
I think you can tell from the tone of my post that I'm not offended at all. I don't pretend to understand the Liverpool Way all that well. I only know what I've read but I truly believe as suggested by the article I posted earlier that it is becoming diluted. It's sad because it's what gives this club meaning and it's what sets us apart from everyone else.

When Alan Ball signed for Everton, Bill Shankly rang him up and told him, "nevermind, at least you'll be playing next to a great team". Different context perhaps but the point is that even when taking the piss, there isn't a need to be vindictive. Fans calling up Gerrard's home to issue death threats when he considered leaving, burning his kit, burning Torres' kit, this isn't what we are about. As Dalglish said, when burning jerseys with the players names on them, they also burned our club crest.

I know I sound like I'm no fun at all but believe me, I'm different in person. Only when it comes to this issue as I feel it is important for all of us to know who we are, what we stand for, and what sets us apart.


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It's a known fact. Bloke once ordered 30 Jagerbombs, fell off his stool and injured himself in the process. I know other players drink but most have families and don't get wild too often. Carroll is a pisshead. I'm not surprised Capello brought this up being the disciplinarian he is.
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whoa. that much? he could get a blood poisoning from consuming too much alcohol. I think it's better for both Capello and KD to curb Carroll's drinking in his early career rather than the latter. i don't want him to end up just like Gazza and Best.
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I saw something heartwarming today... (and it does involve Torres so feel free to disregard this post)

There is a boy in my neighborhood who I regularly see piggybacking on his fathers motorbike. He cannot be more than 9 years old methinks - the thing is he always seem to wear knock of liverpool jerseys with the matching shorts. I've seen him with Gerrard and Torres.

A few days ago I saw him wearing the red one with number 9 on it, but with the Torres word peeled off. At first I thought nothing of it, maybe the quality of the knock off was poor. This morning I saw him again, in a white version and once again the TORRES wording has been peeled off!

The kid must have done it deliberately! Torres himself probably doesn't care, but the way he left leaves a lot to be desired. Like I mentioned back then, Torres has forever tarnished his reputation. And judging by his performances on the field and interviews he is having a hard time accepting that.

As for drinking... well, Shane Warne was partial to the drink every now and then (to put it mildly) and had a host of other 'disputable' inclinations, but I am sure the australians would love to have him back in their team. laugh.gif

Sometimes things are just blown well out of proportion.

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QUOTE(leftist @ Mar 30 2011, 09:10 AM)
What a shot!! Hope he will score this Saturday against Wes Brom.. Good play by the lads..
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QUOTE(fzul07 @ Mar 30 2011, 09:42 AM)
What a shot!! Hope he will score this Saturday against Wes Brom.. Good play by the lads..
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Nice and powerful shot indeed. Kuyt second goal also a stunner, a great lob just outside the box. thumbup.gif

Let's hope they keep the guns firing when we face RH's West Brom on Saturday. smile.gif
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It always doesn't feel right when I don't get my weekly dose of a Liverpool game. Watching England game without Gerrard is no fun for me either.. sad.gif
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Mar 30 2011, 09:38 AM)
As for drinking... well, Shane Warne was partial to the drink every now and then (to put it mildly) and had a host of other 'disputable' inclinations, but I am sure the australians would love to have him back in their team. laugh.gif


Well all he had to do was stand around in the sun smile.gif I may be wrong but like in baseball, you can afford to pack on a few pounds in cricket.
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QUOTE(Yluxion @ Mar 30 2011, 10:39 AM)
Nice and powerful shot indeed. Kuyt second goal also a stunner, a great lob just outside the box.  thumbup.gif

Let's hope they keep the guns firing when we face RH's West Brom on Saturday. smile.gif
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frankly kuyt trying to pass but over hit it..he's laughing after that laugh.gif




anyway still a quality goal though notworthy.gif
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Added on March 30, 2011, 1:12 pmA little something on The Kop.

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It's as if the spirit of no surrender first shown by those brave Liverpudlians in battle had become synonymous with synonymous with
adjective equivalent to, the same as, identical to, similar to, identified with, equal to, tantamount to, interchangeable with, one and the same as  the vociferous spirit of those who have manned it through the decades to make it the most famous football stand in the world .

This is epitomised by the Kop's anthem You'll Never Walk Alone. Sung at the climax of Roger and Hammerstein's classic movie musical Carousel, it's a song about united strength and fighting on together against all the odds.

It became Liverpool's rallying call after the song became Gerry and the Pacemakers' record-breaking third consecutive number one hit in October, 1963.

This marked something of a watershed period in the history of the Kop.

Before then it had always been 100 concrete steps, 394 feet long, 135 feet wide and standing 50 feet high. It was a heaving seething mass of humanity ebbing and flowing like a great wave of flesh and blood against the crash barriers cheering on its home team. But they already shared this feature with a myriad number of other British football club terraces.

In the 1960s, however, with an adopted anthem, a charismatic team of exciting young stars such as Roger Hunt, Tommy Smith and Ian St John and the galvanising influence of one of the most iconic managers of them all, Bill Shankly William "Bill" Shankly, OBE (September 2, 1913 – September 29, 1981) was one of Britain's most successful and respected football managers.

Others in the game recognised this, including that wise old Shankly contemporary the late Joe Mercer.


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He once said: "From the moment he arrived, there was only one way - and that was up. This endless success was mirrored in that amazing relationship with the Kop.

"When he was at Anfield he was the city of Liverpool's answer to vandalism and hooliganism, because the kids came to see Liverpool. Shankly was their man, their hero, their football god. He belongs to the Kop, he's one of them.

"If he hadn't managed Liverpool, I'm sure he would have been on the Kop dressed in red singing and chanting 'Liverpool, Liverpool'."


Many know just how true this is. He may have stepped down as manager but he never stopped being a fan. After he had retired, we were playing a home game. A reporter who we present noted that chants of "Shankly! Shankly!" started to erupt from The Kop. Low and behold, the great man had bought a ticket and stood at the Kop as any fanatic would. When asked what he was doing there, he said, "this is where I belong".

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This ability to connect with the hopes and dreams of the fans to make them feel important - that they were what Shankly always referred to as The Twelfth Man -was a mantle taken up by subsequent Liverpool managers including the latest, Rafa Benite z.

Kopites know that through the wind and the rain their support is always expected - and respected. They respond in kind.

Many thought with the demise of the old terraced Kop, to be replaced by seating in 1994, that the spirit of old would be wiped out. Its golden age od power has diminished, certainly - but the very nature of the seating structure was always bound to do t h at .

None of the fanaticism or never say die has, though - if anything, it has permeated throughout the whole ground, with Anfield Road and Main Stands now having their own little hot-spots of support.


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Anyone who believed that the essence of Kop spirit had been lost only had to be in Istanbul last year at half time when the Reds were three-nil down to AC Milan in the European Champions League Final.

With victory a near impossibility, the low murmur of You'll Never Walk Alone grew to a defiant roar to lift a team whose ultimate victory will go down in footballing legend.

The Twelfth Man had scored its ultimate winning goal.


Still brings a tear to my eye. Those who haven't seen a video of this, need to. The wind was bellowing, the camera picked up on it. Scarves, banners and flag were rippling but there was an eery silence as Liverpool fans had resigned themselves to defeat. 3-0 down against the might of AC Milan. We had been outclassed and outplayed. It is true that we did not play our best football on the day but Shankly was said that if we cannot outplay our opponents, we will outrun them thus his emphasis on fitness. He himself kept well fit, giving up smoking and drinking. From the deathly silence came a low, almost morbid sound. One by one, fans started signing "You'll Never Walk Alone" probably in defiance more than in hope. The signing grew louder and louder. The lads heard it in the dressing room and their spirits grew. Fans had travelled hundreds of miles to watch the team get humiliated in the first half of play and still, they sang. Still, their support never waned. Still, the fans told the players that they would always be with them. What happened next turned out to be one of the biggest comebacks in sports history.

Rivals may mock us for not winning as many titles, or our anthem (e.g. You'll Never Win Again) but they can never take away our faith. It is why I keep reiterating how important is it to live by what we say, especially when we tell someone that they will never walk alone. It isn't words to be uttered losely. The power in those words alone, brought our boys back from the dead in Istanbul.

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And away from home too.

With a ground move possibly looming, Kopites should remember this and walk on with hope in their heart
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success - keep it simple, on the ground, pass-pass-pass

Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple.


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Added on March 30, 2011, 1:36 pmguys, Suarez said his other family are more talented and better in football compared to him sweat.gif

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Gerrard is poised to return this weekend. Heck yes! Any news bout kelly? Key players are required in these key moments of the season. BTW gerrard was stripped from his vice captain post for the 3 lions.
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QUOTE(eugene_tan6 @ Mar 30 2011, 02:03 PM)
Gerrard is poised to return this weekend. Heck yes! Any news bout kelly? Key players are required in these key moments of the season. BTW gerrard was stripped from his vice captain post for the 3 lions.
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great news indeed...don't think kelly will be back though.
As for the vice captaincy & captaincy crap has got too stop, i'm still wondering why are their making a big huu-ha for england's captaincy and i frankly couldn't care less who their captain or vice cap't is. Way too much drama for something which is really not that important. Capello must be scratching his head with this nonsense

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On the issue of captaincy, I've always wondered how much influence a captain has on the game? Don't get me wrong, I believe that choice of captain makes a difference but I think you first need the respect of your fellow teammates. In this sense I think a captain is more like a mascott of the team, than it's leader. Decisions are made by the manager after all. A captain should represent the values of your club or country. It is why I've always maintained that captains should have strong, clean reputations on and off the pitch. It's why I feel it was a mistake for Capello to give Terry back the captaincy. Sleeping with a friend's wife/girlfriend is a cardinal sin amongst guys. Gerrard's only blemish was his altercation at the bar but this is in my opinion, acceptable. Guys get into scuffles all the time.

Gerrard epitomises Liverpool Football Club and I can see why he's our captain. I can also see why Carra is our co-captain. I'm not so sure Terry is a shining example after what he did. Yes, we all need to forgive but his image has been tarnished and kids who look up to him as a role model, will know what he did. Unfortunately, I don't think he's a shining example any longer but when you do the crime, you have to do the time.
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QUOTE(chenwfng @ Mar 30 2011, 10:56 AM)
It always doesn't feel right when I don't get my weekly dose of a Liverpool game. Watching England game without Gerrard is no fun for me either.. sad.gif
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Well if you look carefully you can see that Gerrard is actually in the starting line up yesterday biggrin.gif

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Well if you look carefully you can see that Gerrard is actually in the starting line up yesterday  biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 30 2011, 02:30 PM)
On the issue of captaincy, I've always wondered how much influence a captain has on the game? Don't get me wrong, I believe that choice of captain makes a difference but I think you first need the respect of your fellow teammates. In this sense I think a captain is more like a mascott of the team, than it's leader. Decisions are made by the manager after all. A captain should represent the values of your club or country. It is why I've always maintained that captains should have strong, clean reputations on and off the pitch. It's why I feel it was a mistake for Capello to give Terry back the captaincy. Sleeping with a friend's wife/girlfriend is a cardinal sin amongst guys. Gerrard's only blemish was his altercation at the bar but this is in my opinion, acceptable. Guys get into scuffles all the time.

Gerrard epitomises Liverpool Football Club and I can see why he's our captain. I can also see why Carra is our co-captain. I'm not so sure Terry is a shining example after what he did. Yes, we all need to forgive but his image has been tarnished and kids who look up to him as a role model, will know what he did. Unfortunately, I don't think he's a shining example any longer but when you do the crime, you have to do the time.
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I dont know what Gerrard does but through my blue tainted eyes, I think Terry is definitely the best candidate to captain England. he did his time, he continues to captain Chelsea and has bring lots of glory to our club. he is definitely one of the best defenders in England if not the best. he brings the ball forward himself if we're trailing and helps in attack. he marshals the defense very well too. if you watch Chelsea games, you should know that Terry barks at players keeping them on their toes even when we're leading by a huge margin.

why would capello want to lose such a defender? he decided to return the captaincy to terry because England has no captain, the captaincy was passed around like a bowl of mashed potatoes. rio is injured, gerrard is injured, and if terry calls it quits, whos going to defend for England? Rio gets injured too often and i dont think the likes of Cahill has the experience.
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oh my.......i just thought of it..........

call me slowpoke, but this weekend we will be playing against RH's team........
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QUOTE(madfag @ Mar 30 2011, 03:14 PM)
I dont know what Gerrard does but through my blue tainted eyes, I think Terry is definitely the best candidate to captain England. he did his time, he continues to captain Chelsea and has bring lots of glory to our club. he is definitely one of the best defenders in England if not the best. he brings the ball forward himself if we're trailing and helps in attack. he marshals the defense very well too. if you watch Chelsea games, you should know that Terry barks at players keeping them on their toes even when we're leading by a huge margin.

why would capello want to lose such a defender? he decided to return the captaincy to terry because England has no captain, the captaincy was passed around like a bowl of mashed potatoes. rio is injured, gerrard is injured, and if terry calls it quits, whos going to defend for England? Rio gets injured too often and i dont think the likes of Cahill has the experience.
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Read my post again. I'm not saying Terry is a crap player. I'm saying that he has tarnished his reputation and image. I also said that in my opinion, a captain should have a clean persona on and off the pitch, because he is seen as a mascot/figurehead of the club or country he represents. You may disagree with my interpretation of what a captain should be and what he represents of course.

Why does reputation and image matter? Well, as captain you need to command respect, from fellow players and fans. I'm sure Terry bleeds blue he's committed to the cause of not just Chelsea but England as well. Pictures of him diving to the ground to get his face in the way of a speeding ball come to mind. I'm sure he takes responsibility of what happens on the pitch very seriously. At the same time however, you have to shoulder some responsibility away from it. You need to realise that as captain, people look up to you as an example.

Who else is there? Well, I don't think it is a valid reason to pick someone, because there is no one else.
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Part of the British obsession with the captaincy surely has it's roots in cricket. In cricket the captain has a hand in team selection, makes important calls such as wether to bat first or bowl first, fielding positions, which bowler to bowl and most importantly when to end an innings. There is an element of strategy, unlike football where the manager makes the calls.
Also, in football, should the team lose, captains seldom get blamed. Cricket is much less forgiving.
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the England fans of rival clubs might have huge problems with what he has done but I dont see any player in the England squad making a fuss about Terry returning as captain.

well, i too dont know what exactly is the impact of a captain in a football team but im sure there is a boost of morale if certain players are captain. no?

hmmmm, then should joe hart be captain? a keeper rarely changes so the arm band doesnt get passed around. i cant think of even one outfield player who cements a spot. even lampard is rumoured to be dropped ahead of wilshere.
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QUOTE(madfag @ Mar 30 2011, 03:58 PM)
the England fans of rival clubs might have huge problems with what he has done but I dont see any player in the England squad making a fuss about Terry returning as captain.

well, i too dont know what exactly is the impact of a captain in a football team but im sure there is a boost of morale if certain players are captain. no?

hmmmm, then should joe hart be captain? a keeper rarely changes so the arm band doesnt get passed around. i cant think of even one outfield player who cements a spot. even lampard is rumoured to be dropped ahead of wilshere.
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maybe theres one or two...rio and bridge prolly, haha......well the manager has made the decision, i don't think anyone's gonna object to that. Terry is a good captain no doubt and if England is playing better under that circumstances then it'd be best to leave at that

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i think cesc should listen to him on this......

since he "experienced" it twice biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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wow, our man scored 1st for England. Now waiting for his goals for Liverpool!
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yeah, come on carroll! I think bringing in ashley young would be a great for us. More pace and more crosses into the box.
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First it was Meireles who went on a scoring spree for us. Then it is Kuyt who cannot stop scoring even for Holland. Now Carroll has re-opened his scoring even though it was England.

I thought it was a very well taken goal following a good combination between the two Villa players. Instinctive, sharp and a great shot - cannot wait for Carroll to do the same for LFC against West Brom this weekend!

Hope there're no more international games involving our players. So important that they are kept fit and raring to go!

Suarez and Carroll will definitely play up front, with Lucas, Meireles and Kuyt sure to line up in midfield. I expect to see Carra, Johnson, Skrtle and Reina in defence. Will Kelly return? will the fifth defender be Agger, Sotiros or Aurelio?
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Nice one! He's going to me a massive player for us in the next few years. And it seems Comolli believes it as well.

"One of the first things I did after I arrived was to look at the contract situation and to see where Lucas was at. I knew we had to do something quickly because we couldn't afford to lose him and didn't want to lose him.

"If you look at his playing record he started 46 games last year in all competitions and this year it will be between 45 and 50. He is exactly what we want. He has the right mentality, quality and attitude. He understands what this club is all about and even though the discussions went on for quite a long time he always said to me 'I want to stay and we need to find a solution'.

"Considering his performances on the pitch with us and with Brazil, and his attitude around the place - off the pitch he's a great professional, totally committed and dedicated and it's always team first when you speak to Lucas - that's why we wanted him to stay. The celebration at Sunderland with the players after he'd had his baby shows that the other players were very happy for him and shows he is a team player.

"He could have gone to many clubs because he is highly rated around Europe, but he always said he wanted to play for Liverpool."
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I've just got a hunch that Lucas will be important for us next season and will be leading Brazil out maybe in the next world cup.
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QUOTE(saif_bear @ Mar 31 2011, 01:09 AM)
Lucas signed new contract! Congrats!  rclxms.gif
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http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Liver...icle717921.html


take that u rumour mongers liar maddock!! laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(leftist @ Mar 31 2011, 08:56 AM)
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Liver...icle717921.html
take that u rumour mongers liar maddock!! laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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3 million pounds to offer Lucas? my arse i would say.. even my arse worth more than that. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(saif_bear @ Mar 31 2011, 01:09 AM)
Lucas signed new contract! Congrats!  rclxms.gif
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he will be our Star next season along with, Suarez, Carroll, Spearing , Wilson, Sterling, Morgan and Kelly.


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On a more sombre note, it looks like we're going down the path Arsenal did when they sold the naming rights to their stadium. I'm hoping we don't have to move unless absolutely necessary.

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Liverpool actively seeking stadium naming rights deal, but insist Anfield will not rebranded
Liverpool's newly-appointed managing director Ian Ayre has revealed the club are actively seeking stadium naming rights partners should they move to a new stadium.

The club's owners, Fenway Sports Group, have made clear that boosting Liverpool's gate receipts through an increased capacity is central to their plans to restore the side to former glories. They have yet to make any official decision on whether that will be achieved through building a new stadium or redeveloping their current home.

Speaking at the SoccerEx forum in Manchester today, Ayre said the club are seeking naming rights partners should they move to a new stadium. However, the club are keen to stress that their current home would not be renamed should they stay put.

Arsenal earned £100 million for a 15-year naming rights deal with the airline Emirates, though that also included an eight-year shirt sponsorship clause.

Liverpool see the sphere as one the club needs to exploit if they are to make ground on Arsenal, Manchester United and Chelsea in terms of off-pitch income.
It's a different game these days and it seems that to remain competitive we have sell our soul bit by bit. The name "Anfield" has long been synonymous with great European nights. It was Shankly that first brought it to the attention of the world and it was Bob Paisley who cemented it. Another long standing tradition will be lost here. It has been customary for Liverpool players, especially the local lads to touch the "This is Anfield" plaque above the tunni as the players exit to the field prior to each game. The plaque isn't placed there merely for decoration. As Shankly put it, "the sign is to remind our players who they are playing for and the opposition, who they are playing against".


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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 31 2011, 10:57 AM)
On a more sombre note, it looks like we're going down the path Arsenal did when they sold the naming rights to their stadium. I'm hoping we don't have to move unless absolutely necessary.
It's a different game these days and it seems that to remain competitive we have sell our soul bit by bit. The name "Anfield" has long been synonymous with great European nights. It was Shankly that first brought it to the attention of the world and it was Bob Paisley who cemented it. Another long standing tradition will be lost here. It has been customary for Liverpool players, especially the local lads to touch the "This is Anfield" plaque above the tunni as the players exit to the field prior to each game. The plaque isn't placed there merely for decoration. As Shankly put it, "the sign is to remind our players who they are playing for and the opposition, who they are playing against".
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while i share your sentiment i think it is one of the best options to boost our income and to be able to compete at the highest levels of football. arsenal played shakily when they first moved to the emirates stadium, but the statistics don't lie. they averaged about 15k seats more than anfield in attendance and over the course of one season, arsenal will easily make over 10mil in profit extra compared to liverpool, that's how the game is played now. i still think highbury is a great stadium, but setting arsenal as an example, it's not necessarily a path not worth exploring.
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Aqua + Mereiles + Gerrard ...
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QUOTE(normeck @ Mar 31 2011, 03:23 PM)
Aqua + Mereiles + Gerrard ...
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QUOTE(demamkuning @ Mar 31 2011, 03:43 PM)
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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Mar 31 2011, 04:11 PM)
got a lot of quality CM. Kenny gonna play rotation system? u think? unsure.gif
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I'd be very happy if Aqua comes back, I think he suits to King Kenny's system very well. Plus with Gerrard having injury problems since the past few years, he's a great addition. Rotate once in a while is fine with me, since players get injured and different players suit to different tactics and oppositions. More creativity = more space for Carroll and Luiz to mess up the defence. biggrin.gif
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hmmm...wonder if kenny will get a new winger or not by end of this season sweat.gif

Carrol will play much better if someone can feed him with crosses, especially crosses from the flank. laugh.gif
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another strategy when using Caroll is, he need to be good at positioning..
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new away kit !! 2011/12!!

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/shop/awaykit?nci..._OTHER_30032011
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QUOTE(redkord @ Mar 31 2011, 04:45 PM)
Still hitam la bro...have to wait. tongue.gif

Yea I guess Carroll's strength is maximized if we have pacey wingers who can cross well to support him. No wonder King Kenny is so desperate to get Charlie Adam earlier, cause he's corner kicks are 10m rated and he's scottish. smile.gif

Either Ashley Young or Charlie Adam joining us is fine with me...
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another strategy when using Caroll is, he need to be good at positioning..
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and he need to reduce his drinking habit..but i tot most of pro players out there does drinking? blink.gif

Carrol drink too much? icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(kazuki85 @ Mar 31 2011, 04:54 PM)
Still hitam la bro...have to wait. tongue.gif

Yea I guess Carroll's strength is maximized if we have pacey wingers who can cross well to support him. No wonder King Kenny is so desperate to get Charlie Adam earlier, cause he's corner kicks are 10m rated and he's scottish. smile.gif

Either Ashley Young or Charlie Adam joining us is fine with me...
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haha.. i cant wait liao.. biggrin.gif
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aqua + meireles + suarez is great in playing pass n move football

gerrard can try to play like alonso type of cm

we just need to get a stable left back and left winger then our 1st eleven is strong enuff liao
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we mentioned 'aqua' name most of the time now. hopefully he will return back to Anfield and stay smile.gif
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QUOTE(redkord @ Mar 31 2011, 04:45 PM)
Seriously cool!! I want to get one.. All black Liverpool.. thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Mar 31 2011, 05:12 PM)
we mentioned 'aqua' name most of the time now. hopefully he will return back to Anfield and stay  smile.gif
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Ya the deal with Juve is unlikely to proceed.. Aqua also got a lot of playing time in Serie A & international... So we like get another new player next season IF Aqua stay with us.. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(fzul07 @ Mar 31 2011, 05:38 PM)
Seriously cool!! I want to get one.. All black Liverpool..  thumbup.gif


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Ya the deal with Juve is unlikely to proceed.. Aqua also got a lot of playing time in Serie A & international... So we like get another new player next season IF Aqua stay with us..  icon_rolleyes.gif
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The away shirt is not all black. They're creating anticipation right now, 14th April is the reveal date. Quite a good move from the marketing crew. biggrin.gif
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if rh didnt loan him out ..i conlanfirm aqua will shine under KD guidance
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Poulsen eyeing WBA move! Good, Hurry up!

http://yhoo.it/fhRt7U


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Oh maiii, that all black kit looks super sexy! RAWR!! biggrin.gif
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Man i wish they design our badge in those color scheme. Just white and red flame.
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QUOTE(redkord @ Mar 31 2011, 04:45 PM)
quite awesome kit brows.gif
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QUOTE(blissandecstasy @ Mar 31 2011, 07:16 PM)
Poulsen eyeing WBA move! Good, Hurry up!
lol roy wanna buy poulsen issit ?? its biut time..
if aqua back i think youngsters will warm the bench..
better sell him to italian cup and use the fund to buy adam:young..
well, comolli knows better..

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poulsen better go.. he not suit in liverpool way.. maybe more suit on RH way

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