But still...luckily Uncle Woy didn't last a whole season. Else later Reina, Dagger, Johnson, heck even Gerrard will cabut from Liverpool...
English Clubs Liverpool Football Club - The Kop Talks 2011, FULHAM VS LIVERPOOL C812/832 3am
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I heard the commentary said something like, "If Kenny Dalglish started the season as the manager with the results he's having now, Liverpool would be matched with Arsenal in points"
But still...luckily Uncle Woy didn't last a whole season. Else later Reina, Dagger, Johnson, heck even Gerrard will cabut from Liverpool... |
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Mar 22 2011, 04:59 PM
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Don't sell Johnson please, he's doing much better under KD and he did OK when he plays on the left while Kelly is on the right. He's a pretty reliable backup to our LB slot. Most importantly he didn't complaint too.
 Reina MAY leave us in the summer if we miss Europe, but I'm sure Dagger won't. So is Gerrard and Johnson. They just want more playing time, and they got it under King Kenny. But I'm pretty sure Jovanovic will be offloaded, and N'gog loaned out. I hope Insua and Aqua gets at least a season under King Kenny to see how well they click with his ideas... |
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Mar 29 2011, 04:59 PM
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If you read the whole interview, Torres didn't actually deliberately taking a swipe at us. Rather, he's taking a swipe at the previous owners and such. I think he didn't like the fact that many players came and left Liverpool during his time.
Read this part of the interview : "I wouldn't have joined Manchester United out of respect for the Liverpool fans, I wouldn't sign for Real Madrid because of my support for Atlético. Barcelona don't need my type of player and Italy doesn't attract me, which meant it had to be Chelsea. "They were the only ones where I could go and also improve myself. I'd started to take the decision to leave when the stream of sales started with Crouch and Arbeloa then Xabi Alonso and Javier Mascherano were all sold." I still believe he love Liverpool and it's history, but he's more into himself rather than the club. And the way he left us and the way he replied to the interviewer is making the media happy, by making it controversial and so called "taking swipe at Liverpool FC". Here is the part where he mention this : "Javier Mascherano did many good things for Liverpool but they did not treat him well when he left," Torres told Sport. "It is a complicated situation when you leave a club but footballers always want to move forward, chase what he believes is better, because we only have eight or 10 good years." Carragher mentioned too that he kept a lot of things to himself during his stay with us. He's more like a loner guy and tries to achieve everything by himself. Duke Red said before that he can even abandon his childhood club of Atletico to chase for trophies, but unfortunately he didn't get any with us. So he decided he can't wait anymore and moved on. Fair play to him, if he were here when Fenway Group/King Kenny was here earlier, then it might have been different. But oh well...it's fate. |
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Mar 31 2011, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Mar 31 2011, 04:11 PM) got a lot of quality CM. Kenny gonna play rotation system? u think? I'd be very happy if Aqua comes back, I think he suits to King Kenny's system very well. Plus with Gerrard having injury problems since the past few years, he's a great addition. Rotate once in a while is fine with me, since players get injured and different players suit to different tactics and oppositions. More creativity = more space for Carroll and Luiz to mess up the defence.    |
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Mar 31 2011, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE(redkord @ Mar 31 2011, 04:45 PM) Still hitam la bro...have to wait. Yea I guess Carroll's strength is maximized if we have pacey wingers who can cross well to support him. No wonder King Kenny is so desperate to get Charlie Adam earlier, cause he's corner kicks are 10m rated and he's scottish.  Either Ashley Young or Charlie Adam joining us is fine with me... |
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Apr 1 2011, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE(El-Nino @ Apr 1 2011, 05:46 PM) the best way is sell johnson and sign a better right back! we have Comolli as a scouting expert. Bring the next Bale for us.... You talk as though its so easy to spot talents like "the next Bale/Roberto Carlos/Maicon/Dani Alves" or such...those talents are rare and hard to find ok. Johnson should stay as we're thin on the RB post, not to mention he got no problem covering the LB too. As talented Martin Kelly is, his injury record is not very good. Same for Aurelio. We need to get a proper LB who is fit most of the time and does more defensive work better than Johnson, a.k.a Finnan/Arbeloa. This post has been edited by kazuki85: Apr 1 2011, 05:54 PM |
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Apr 4 2011, 03:09 PM
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I still remember the days we had Aurelio, Insua and Dossena fit. Too many players in one position. Now we have none...(Aurelio keeps getting injured at least 3/4 of each season) @_@
I think Insua needs to come back, and we need to get another LB and/or LW as backup. Fabio Coentrao seems good for his age, and at least Raul Meireles wont be bored as he's the only Portugese in the team now. Else getting Jose Enrique won't be all bad, since he's not old and has time to improve. |
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 4 2011, 03:57 PM) Speaking of players to be shipped out, I understand Philip Degen is still on our payroll. Yeah man...I always think Agger is a good defender that can possibly open up the game with his composure on the ball + with some forward runs/passes/shot. Too bad his injury record is kind of bad...else we could pick up points from some games, especially the last match with lumbering Krygiakos making 2 huge mistakes. I've been a fan of Daniel Agger for some time now which is why I was upset to hear that he was considering a move to AC Milan during Rafa's reign. These concerns resurfaced again as Roy Hodgson didn't seem to find any use for him which I found perplexing. We've been crying out for a defender in the mould of Alan Hansen for two decades now and when he finally arrived, we used him sparingly. What? Not many defenders in world football these days who can bring the ball forward like he does. His distribution is sound and he is reluctant to hoof the ball, a risk to many but an educated risk in my opinion. He isn't the biggest or strongest centreback around but he has to be amongst the most elegant. Not many centrebacks have the ability to double up as a defensive midfielder (Marquez anyone?) and has the pace to also play at fullback, and do equally well in all of those positions. In the Premiership, only Phil Jagielka comes to mind. Not seen Jolean Lescott play in the middle. Some may argue that Jamie Carragher could play in all those positions plus centreback but as good as Carra is, we all know he is only really top class at the heart of the defence. I'm sure Kenny Dalglish appreciates what Agger brings to the table having been at the club when Alan Hansen was playing. It's like a breath of fresh air considering we've had hoofers like Skrtel, Carra, Ruddock, Dicks, etc. Here is an article I came across. http://www.kopsource.com/the-importance-of-daniel-agger/  Sigh...if we were to buy CB's in the near future, we should consider his injury record as well. Johnson, Gerrard, Agger, Aurelio, Kelly, Joe Cole all spend quite a number of times on the treatment table and we need depth to challenge for Europe next season. And do you realize that 4 of the 6 names i mention are in the defense department. |
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Apr 5 2011, 02:20 PM
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Man, Alonso always has good words for us even after he left...
Alonso : My son's a Red Unlike that blondey who keeps saying his current team is better than ours and bla bla bla |
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Apr 12 2011, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(sickx @ Apr 12 2011, 02:40 PM) why not getting both coentrao and enrique?coentrao can play in LM as well.might solve your left wing problem I was thinking the same too lol. Plus, in case Enrique or Aurelio (if he stays) is injured, he can cover our LB position.  |
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Apr 13 2011, 11:06 AM
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Not to be a cold blanket, but Eden Hazard has repeated many times to the media that he prefers Arsenal over us. Plus Stan Kroenke just take over Arsenal and injected at least 40m of cash for them. I think a bid of 15-20m is enough for Arsenal to get his siggy.
Get over it, he won't sign for us next season. We should be looking for other LB/LW and possibly a CB or AMF next season. |
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Apr 13 2011, 11:22 AM
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Coentrao does look interesting to solve our LB crisis, but it depends whether he want to join us or not and possibly not playing in Europe for a season.
Unless there is a slim chance that Konchesky join us again next season after finishing his loan, and not getting any buyers...that may solve our LB problems? I would welcome the signing of Young/Downing, Adam or Jarvis if they want to play with us. Especially Charlie Adam with his 10m rated corner kicks, he can be a real headache to the opposition defenders esp. when Andy Carroll is around. |
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Apr 15 2011, 09:52 PM
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Justice for the 96...hope our boys can go out there and get good results until the end of season, just go out there and give them all you got!
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Got this bit from the LFC forums :
How many examples can one man give of what a brilliant manager should look like?? Aurelio does his hammy in after 20 minutes, and while the rest of us are moaning "NOT AGAIN"....Kenny calmy turns to his young 17 year old LB, and cracks jokes for a good several seconds before he goes on totally putting young Jack at ease. No panic. Carra is out cold - and our collective hearts are in our mouths almost scared to breath - Kenny is serious - but looks totally in control. He has already decided on Soto, and walks up to him to chat him up as he is putting on his shin guards. You could see Soto was a bit shook up as he was coming on shaking his head probably really worried about his teammate...the old veteran and all. Kenny just walks up to him and talks to him and Soto comes on and does a fantastic job filling in. While Carra was being attended to, Kenny is of course aware of the seriousness of the situation, yet, he is walking around - talking to the fourth official, smiling even to probably ease the tension. Again, no sign of face rubbing - woe is me look on his face that that other manager used to have - man in total control. He pulls young Flanno over, assures him not to worry about Carra and just get on with it. And of course, the clincher...the French whinger who had just himself been celebrating a dubious PK 30 seconds prior is suddenly whining when it goes against him and Kenny just tells him to *** off Is there any situation this man does not handle with total class? You never ever have to ask him to do a mulligan on anything....he gets it done the first time around and you are just left in awe! Shame on us for not making him our manager sooner!! Now, let's not **** this up and make this thing permanent. Everything spot on. He's did everything right as a manager, shows passion and willingness to help the young ones settle in and unlike uncle woy who likes to rub his face when things are not going his way. This post has been edited by kazuki85: Apr 18 2011, 03:15 PM |
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Talk about Fabio Aurelio, that guy is really made from glass...he's nearly as fragile as the two Owens in Man U.
I think it's either pay as you play contract, or retire altogether. He can't even finish a season without getting injured for 2-3 months minimum. :/ |
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QUOTE(vreis @ Apr 22 2011, 09:56 AM) See why Kenny wanna brought in Adam even he's a CM by trade? Its to bring in more creativity to the side. Frankly cant see both Aqua & Adam in the same team, reckon it'll be one or the other. I think if Kenny manage to sign Adam, he might be probably pushed to the left wing, like how Meireles is covering that position for now. Yes, he may not be the best at that position, but his crosses will be helpful to get us forward. Plus he's still young and still has time to learn to adapt a new position. |
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QUOTE(keong24 @ Apr 26 2011, 09:33 AM) mayb we shud appreciate benitez more during that time Actually, it's nothing we can do about it for now. The two blood sucking cowboys at that time wanted him out, and he was getting too much pressure from the owners, fans and players. I do understand his frustrations of not signing the players he wanted, but any good manager will not go anywhere without the backing of the club owners. Similar to Jose's exit from Chelski. The worse thing is the owners already talking to Klinsmann and other alternatives when Rafa is still around. What a shame from those two cowboys, undermining our own club.   But the ship has sailed and I hope he gets a good club with owners that willing listen to him instead of doing things their own way. Btw, Kenny is doing so well now, thats why not many people mentioning about Rafa now. But I think he will be very happy now to see Liverpool have good new owners who willing to invest. |
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 26 2011, 11:44 AM) The distinct difference I see between the two is this; that King Kenny is getting the best out of the players he has at his disposal. He is without a doubt the better man manager. Just look at how he constantly talks to players with a smile on his face, giving the young uns especially the encouragement they need. This was if you ask me, one of Rafa's biggest flaws, that he could not motivate players and have them play at their potential. I can't help but think that he'd be better suited to a post like Director of Football than a manager. Ya man...thought of the same too. A role like Damien Comolli's will suit him well, but with his stubbornness I think it isn't possible. He's kinda weak on the social side of things and players may feel that they are not very close to the manager. But Torres did mention that his strictness make him improve massively when he was in Liverpool. Eto'o too mentioned that Rafa's tactic may suit him better, and score more goals in the process. But the players and owners turn on him during his short time at Inter too, due to super high expectations and senior players moaning about being benched. But King Kenny is almost the perfect manager role model. I think almost any club in the world would like someone like Kenny Dalglish to lead them. Not only he has passion, he is tactically good, handles the media well, know the club inside out, and bond well with the players both young and old. If Kenny can bring us some silverware next season (which I believe he can), I can see the likes of Man C or Chelsea trying to get King Kenny's signature. |
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QUOTE(xMika @ Apr 26 2011, 12:02 PM) Whats this ? I think before the Barry saga, he already dropping hints that the England tax for foreign players is a bit too much (he needs more $? lol), plus he wanted to settle down his family back in Spain. But after the Barry saga, he decided he wanted back liao.If you think back again, it all comes down to $$ problem for us at that time. If we had NESV earlier at that time, we won't need to sell Alonso to get Barry (and we probably might not waste money on Robbie Keane instead lol). Plus we can give him a better contract and payraise (eliminating his tax worries) to Alonso. Fortunately our ex-owners left by this season or else we'll be flirting with relegation and the likes of Comolli, Steve Clarke, Luiz Suarez and Andy Carroll might not be here. Most of the Torres transfer money will be for repaying debt. And I'm still pissed off at the loaning of Insua to Galatasaray and Aquilani to Juve with option to buy.  |
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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Apr 28 2011, 10:44 PM) my god.We are dominating the list. It's more like Roy Hodgson's signings is dominating the list |
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