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English Clubs Liverpool Football Club - The Kop Talks 2011, FULHAM VS LIVERPOOL C812/832 3am

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RedSiglap56
post Mar 21 2011, 09:51 AM

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Liverpool's midfield looked a little lost in the opening 15 minutes. Sunderland passed well but they were not incisive throughout the match and hardly tested Reina. They were also very hard done to have lost two players to injuries so early on.

We had more chances to score through both Carroll and Suarez. In fact I'm optimistic that Carroll will start scoring sooner rather than later.

Overall, I think we were very fortunate that things went our way, and of course we have a gifted but temperamental South American on our side!

The chase for 5th is definitely on and 4th .. well, the ball is round..
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post Mar 21 2011, 03:14 PM

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It's not surprising at all that the "Torres bashing" continues. If Michael Owen still gets shot now and again after all these years, what do we expect of such a recent event? Quite normal .. "healing" will take time!

Having said that, we have to accept that players coming and going is an essential part of professional football. Let's just be thankful for the few players around who stand by their boy-hood clubs, or the clubs which treated them very well. Such are rare gems these days.

I wish the Americans can see that managers who hold on to such values are even more precious gems ... and promptly reward Dalglish with a permanent appointment! That will give everyone a major boost!
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post Mar 21 2011, 05:18 PM

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Next game is away to West Brom where the players will be greeted by their former boss! Spurs will be away to Wigan.

If things go our way at the Hawthorns, we could end up right behind Spurs next weekend!

Spurs still got to play Arsenal (H), Chelsea (A), pay a visit to Anfield and then play Man City (A). It will be a very tough fight to get 5th, but it certainly is not impossible..
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post Mar 23 2011, 11:18 AM

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Please make the announcements regarding the Reds' visit as prominent as possible so that the not-so-regulars like me won't miss it.

It will be just great to watch the Reds play live. Greater still if another professional club also visits and plays a mini-tournament here with LFC!
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post Mar 24 2011, 10:47 AM

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For youngsters, one should never say never.

Nevertheless, Spearing has a long way to go to become another Sammy Lee or Steve Nicol or (I'm thinking of players of similar physical attributes who shone for the Reds).. Right now, he still looks clumsy at times, slow and easily tricked by clever opponents. He's got quite a good shot though.

If Gerrard is to be replaced, Charlie Adam may have a better impact in a much shorter time frame.

Having said that, I expect Gerrard to continue playing for us for at least one more season i.e. until the Euro, because the club will not want to deprive him a probable last chance to play in a major tournament for England. After that, he will probably have to accept a lesser role..
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post Mar 24 2011, 03:53 PM

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Kenny Dalglish should be allowed to manage until he himself calls it quits and be allowed to groom his own successor - someone who values the traditions and cultures of LFC equally.

I hope Benitez (and even Houllier much as I liked him) will not be allowed back. Benitez preferred to buy success to the exclusion of youth development. I seem to get the impression that he bought youngsters for show and then loans them out or sells them off later.

I certainly cannot see him working with Comolli because he's the type who needs complete control.

The worse thing to happen is when he "ties his infamous strings" onto players like Suarez, Carroll, Kelly, Meireles etc.. and then "thugs at them" from the touchline as if he's flying some human kites .. killing every creative spark there is in them in the process.

I hope the club will regain the former passions and achieve again!
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post Mar 24 2011, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(rushmode @ Mar 24 2011, 06:00 PM)
i agree RB will have hard time working with Commoli but the the statements that i bold is simply bollocks doesn't it?

1 - RB the one insist to rebuild the youth systems. he did not buy them for show.. wtf? he have to sell them because of he need to raise money to buy 1st team players. most the youth he bought still here ain't it? at least those that matters.

2 - infamous strings killing creative sparks? wah.. as i can remember we were playing beautiful football in 2007 - 2009. smashing club records along the way... maybe u can only remember his last year in the club.

RB wont be back so soon because I am 100% behind kenny to stay as manager as long as he can.. but RB (and GH) at least gets the recognitions that he deserved.
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"Bollocks" eh? There were more than a dozen youngsters he bought over the years, all of them labelled "promising" and "future stars". Only Lucas and Insua played more regularly in the first team - and Insua has left already. Who else are "those that matters"?

What you consider as "beautiful football" I saw as frustrating, one-dimensional football devoid of the sparkle of a successful team.

Anyway, I don't wish to re-open this argument with you because it is pointless now. The reason for my responding is because I don't think it's nice to disrespect another supporter's opinion the way you did. This is a forum right? and everyone's entitled to his/her opinions in such forums. You are entitled to yours and I won't belittle any of your opinions. Comments yes, belittling/disrespecting no.

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post Mar 25 2011, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(rushmode @ Mar 24 2011, 10:07 PM)
you probably doesnt read that article right...

Think how much money the club have gotten after he took the team to at least last 16 in CL almost every year. The profit from selling Torres is 30 millions. you know?

1 CL, 1 FA, 1 Super Cup, 1 Comm Shield and another CL final.. highest point collected by LFC in a season, record win, making LFC feared in Europe again.. yes I have rethink it again. If Rafa's last season was very hard in your memories.. how does the season before Houllier means to you? Even Houllier's last season was unbearable to watched.

Its not the success of the youth.. its how he have transformed the development youth systems. Houllier got the credit for transforming the way the team trained and kick the Spice Boys way of lifes. Rafa got for the youth.. even Kenny admit that.

I'm not defending Rafa blindly.. I just saying that he deserved some recognitions from us Reds.
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I read the article alright and I know that the writer was against RB getting the sack. However, in quoting all the "supporting evidence" for RB, he had inadvertently also underlined how much he spent in those 5 years and how little success we had : poor ROI!

Earning money from CL is not the same as winning the CL (which he did in the first season, largely with Houllier's players) and Torres was not sold by RB, by the way - cannot add that to RB's credit.

Actually, I am not blasting RB out of the blue. Yes every Liverpool manager deserve some recognition. Even RH should be acknowledged for bringing in Meireles and leading LFC's defeat of Chelski at Anfield - but we know that RH was simply not the right manager.

I was writing in the context of RB's hoping to come back to manage LFC ... my opinion (again) : he should never be allowed back!

But then, who am I?!...
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post Mar 30 2011, 10:16 PM

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First it was Meireles who went on a scoring spree for us. Then it is Kuyt who cannot stop scoring even for Holland. Now Carroll has re-opened his scoring even though it was England.

I thought it was a very well taken goal following a good combination between the two Villa players. Instinctive, sharp and a great shot - cannot wait for Carroll to do the same for LFC against West Brom this weekend!

Hope there're no more international games involving our players. So important that they are kept fit and raring to go!

Suarez and Carroll will definitely play up front, with Lucas, Meireles and Kuyt sure to line up in midfield. I expect to see Carra, Johnson, Skrtle and Reina in defence. Will Kelly return? will the fifth defender be Agger, Sotiros or Aurelio?
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post Apr 12 2011, 09:48 AM

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Let such performances continue for the rest of this season and continue into the next ... and we can all look forward to an exciting new era for Liverpool FC!

Great team-effort, great job!
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