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post Jun 9 2005, 10:53 AM, updated 20y ago

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Here we all know, our instruments are expensive. Me being a student. It's worse. sad.gif

But, we also do know, that 'cheap' guitars, can surprisingly sound and feel good...and can put up a decent fight against their more expensive counterparts.

These guitars, well to me...are gems in the rough. Maybe we could all share ideas about cheap guitars that are well above decent...if possible...very good.

Might try and keep the price range under 800. ( ok ok..i want a cheap 300 dollar guitar that plays like 3000... tongue.gif )

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lol...
You can't go wrong with SX guitars. Cheap stuff with good tones. Sounded better than most of the Squiers and some said it beat some of the lower line Fender too.

300 bux for 3.0k sounding guitar...hahahah...ok, once in a while, there would be some idiot in this world would sell an awesome top of the line guitar for like couple of hundreads. My guitarist got his RG which should cost 2.1k for like RM 400 and this one old legendary story where some fella sell his Fender American Strat (in good condition mind u) for RM 600. Why laa thiss pple... shakehead.gif
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oh... me no guitar expert.. but got my taiwan made guitar for roughly RM130.... Sounded not bad... perfect for noob like me.. but pity the guitar now lying at home.. cuz no way to bring it here..haih....
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post Jun 9 2005, 11:07 AM

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i got Yamaha...one costs RM400 while the other (electro-acoustic) costs Rm450 2nd hand....both still oklah except for the latter one..the first string sounds 'bleh'..changed the string lotsa time liao...still the same..'bleh'..
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sx...
definately won't go wrong
best thing is, u can still hot rod it and it will sound even better...
but u may wanna get a person that knows his stuff in wohfatt...
just in case....
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post Jun 9 2005, 11:49 AM

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^ SX eh? yeah man..heard damn lot abt them... how much their price range? woh fatt only eh...yeah i tried one there...
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post Jun 9 2005, 11:49 AM

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hello there,

i want to buy an acostic guitar. budget rm400+ to rm600+. I wonder if you all can help me by suggesting some nice, good for value models.

i hv seen the following :
1) yamaha f310, around rm400+, indo made
2) garrison, china made, good review fr thestar.com.my .. but alas .. rm850
3) santa cruz, china made, cheap ... but no impresssion

from the above three, i wud probably log in that yamaha f310, but my impression, yamaha makes pretty decent entry level classical guitars eg c70 or c80 but entry level acoustic guitars are not their forte. for a similar budget, i somehow think that there are better models out there, maybe a canadian or states made guitar round rm500+ to rm600+???

Appreciate your help and suggestions please.

Thank you.

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QUOTE(Pix @ Jun 9 2005, 12:32 PM)
eye, you're a joke laugh.gif
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hahahah pix,

no .. really, i am not trying to intrude other people's thread. just that birds of the same feather flocks together ,,, these threads are started by those who have the experience n knowledge in guitars ,,, just trying my luck to see if the 'sifus' are willing to help out a newbie maaaa

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post Jun 9 2005, 12:48 PM

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^sry dude...acoustic not my thing. smile.gif maybe others here can help...
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im using SX electric guitar...kinda good...just chg to a better cable and it plays fine...i bought the whole set..i forgot but im sure its under 600...
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^ic ic...wht izzit? a strat copy?or tele copy? i m interested in a tele copy with humbuckers.
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eye, i understand you.. it's just that it IS a musician forum, so all the birds are flocking around there already wink.gif and you can even look in the previous threads to gather some information:

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=161700
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QUOTE(Pix @ Jun 9 2005, 01:04 PM)
eye, i understand you.. it's just that it IS a musician forum, so all the birds are flocking around there already wink.gif and you can even look in the previous threads to gather some information:

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=161700
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how about gettin a used good guitar
Between these three guitars which one would u pick and why
2nd hand MIM fender strat, with duncan bridge pu, no bag? RM1350
2nd hand MIJ fender strat (the lowest end jap strat ST-43), with bag? RM1450
2nd hand Highway 1 US fender strat with bag? RM1750?

also are these prices reasonable for 2nd hand fender guitars?


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^whoa. i wldnt knw much. but i wld go for the mij strat.

dont really fancy strats...need a humbucker...unless its a fat.


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Samick produces guitar???
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got a ibanez grx70 at home...quite a good electric guitar to me...comfy when solo...i couple it with ds-1 pedal to make the distortion sound better...bought it below 700 i think...quite long liao
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how much for a SX LP copy ar?
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post Jun 9 2005, 08:46 PM

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well.... i saw a Wave LP copy.... its kinda heavy
n its got zebra humbuckers.... the build is great IMO
n the neck is yummilicious
retails for rm999 doh.gif copy oso so expensive but got discount la the fella say ><
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wave? nvr heard of it before.

where did u see it?
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QUOTE(kimi @ Jun 9 2005, 02:54 PM)
how about gettin a used good guitar
  Between these three guitars which one would u pick and why
2nd hand MIM fender strat, with duncan bridge pu, no bag?  RM1350
2nd hand MIJ fender strat (the lowest end jap strat ST-43), with bag? RM1450
2nd hand Highway 1 US fender strat with bag?  RM1750?

also are these prices reasonable for 2nd hand fender guitars?
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Hmm...i would choose MIM...since it got Duncan pu there, kinda cheap for 1.3k. For me the Highway 1 is a bit expansive...better just collect till u can get a new one.

QUOTE(Geminist @ Jun 9 2005, 06:42 PM)
Samick produces guitar???
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Yah...lots of them and many are cheap.

QUOTE(thesexpistols @ Jun 9 2005, 06:49 PM)
how much for a SX LP copy ar?
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Hmm...should be below RM 900. I almost bought one for RM750...
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bought my GAX70 at rm600 at bentley last year or so.. should be much cheaper by now.. looks great to me.. the sustain is quite long and looks good among other cheap guitars.. in other words.. i chose it over the squiers mainly bcause of the looks cos i didnt know that much about guitars back then.. hehe
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noob here...
is ibanez electric guitars good 4 starters??
and how much will it cost one??? as in the whole set....
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QUOTE(MoNnY @ Jun 9 2005, 11:18 AM)
sx...
definately won't go wrong
best thing is, u can still hot rod it and it will sound even better...
but u may wanna get a person that knows his stuff in wohfatt...
just in case....
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SX guitars have improve ALOT ever since. MY church bought one SX accoutic guitar and it's sounds good. It has really good attack , very light , comes with Fishman premap and EQ , and best of all ... the workmanship ... wah, can stand up with any Rm5K guitars .... and the best part of all ... it only cost Rm900 + gig bag.
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QUOTE(xXSgtXr3DXx @ Jun 14 2005, 07:19 PM)
noob here...
is ibanez electric guitars good 4 starters??
and how much will it cost one??? as in the whole set....
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Ibanez is ok...depends on which model, it's usually under 1k with gig big and some spare money to buy a small practice amp.

But before u get an Ibanez or Squier, take some time and test out SX guitars...it might worth the extra effort. Follow your ear and heart thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(nick_drake @ Jun 9 2005, 11:31 PM)
wave? nvr heard of it before.

where did u see it?
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wave? i saw some at rhapsody mid valley...they have a cheap acoustic bass... drool.gif
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the music shop in Kinta City , ipoh has loads of Waves's.. the shapes are copies.. donno bout the sound
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wow under 1k...
aiyo.. i onli student le....
wat bout sx??? the price
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QUOTE(plankton @ Jun 15 2005, 02:47 PM)
the music shop in Kinta City , ipoh has loads of Waves's.. the shapes are copies.. donno bout the sound
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next time u there can u try it???
im kinda interested in the wave LP.... cuz got no cash to get the epiphone LP ><
haha i cant wait for SPM to be over !!
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QUOTE(xXSgtXr3DXx @ Jun 15 2005, 08:53 PM)
wow under 1k...
aiyo.. i onli student le....
wat bout sx??? the price
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all under 1k, but SX u can get...from 500 - 900...depends either bass or guitar and which design (strat/LP/tele). SX LP copy is around 800.
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QUOTE(chapree @ Jun 16 2005, 05:19 PM)
all under 1k, but SX u can get...from 500 - 900...depends either bass or guitar and which design (strat/LP/tele). SX LP copy is around 800.
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SX LP copy is not exactly the same design rite??
or izzit a perfect clone?
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wat does this (strat/LP/tele) means???
sorry ah....
i really dunno about electric guitars...
the onli guitar i have is a kapok guitar...hehe
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anyone noes where to find craftsman products?

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i pin this topic, because it may offer a quick help to other guitarists as well thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(sean392 @ Jun 16 2005, 05:26 PM)
SX LP copy is not exactly the same design rite??
or izzit a perfect clone?
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I will not say it's perfect (u can't really get a perfect clone) but it's a good clone. Same design except no Gibson at the headstock hahahaah~

QUOTE(xXSgtXr3DXx @ Jun 16 2005, 07:51 PM)
wat does this (strat/LP/tele) means???
sorry ah....
i really dunno about electric guitars...
the onli guitar i have is a kapok guitar...hehe
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Strat = Fender Stratocaster
LP = Gibson Les Paul
Tele = Fender Telecaster

QUOTE(sean392 @ Jun 16 2005, 08:44 PM)
anyone noes where to find craftsman products?
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CK Music in Jln. Imbi got their stuff.
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okay...
but i really cant decide wat to get....
so wat would you suggest...
i like playing punk rock... rock...
can you guys tell me wat guitar...amp...pedals to get... all under 1 k if possible...hehe
thanks in advance
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QUOTE(chapree @ Jun 17 2005, 11:52 AM)
I will not say it's perfect (u can't really get a perfect clone) but it's a good clone. Same design except no Gibson at the headstock hahahaah~
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really?!?!??!
http://www.sxguitar.com/gg_series.htm
if the design is liddat then i dun realy like it ><;;
thx for da info....
im kinda interested in a craftsman LP copy
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QUOTE(sean392 @ Jun 17 2005, 10:59 PM)
really?!?!??!
http://www.sxguitar.com/gg_series.htm
if the design is liddat then i dun realy like it ><;;
thx for da info....
im kinda interested in a craftsman LP copy
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Why? I thought those look cool! Ehh, any idea how much does SX SEG1 series cost? They look like Ibanez RG series!! drool.gif
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the cut near the p'up switch i dun lyk ><;;
very picky huh ?
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eh how come this is pinned? smile.gif
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we all like cheap stuff dats y tongue.gif
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QUOTE(plankton @ Jun 15 2005, 02:47 PM)
the music shop in Kinta City , ipoh has loads of Waves's.. the shapes are copies.. donno bout the sound
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got Skyhawk and wave LP copy also. Never had a chance to try those.. But im more interested getting those Squier Tele. All Skyhawk, Wave are below RM600. And the Tele is RM590 if im not mistaken. Dunno which country made that Squier. And of course the lovely Epi LP Custom for RM1.9K
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is skyhawk available in selangor ???
around KL n PJ is acceptable ><;; as i cant drive yet ><;;
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http://www.citymusic.com.sg/craftsman.htm
ah.... this lespaul copy i like biggrin.gif
is maple a good type of wood??
compared to rosewood n mahogany ><

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where to get sx guitars???
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post Jun 19 2005, 10:48 AM

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woh fatt dude...
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yo sifus..

how much is GRG270J jumpstart guitar?? anyone noe??
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This really looks tempting, heard tokai aren't that bad.

Tokai LP
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OMG its HOT!!!
now where can i find a tokai in malaysia ><||
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I don't think you could find Tokai anywhere here.

Ishibashi thumbup.gif :
http://www.excite.co.jp/world/english/web/...p=JAEN&wb_dis=2

Send an email to them, perhaps they could get you the ZW model. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

Fernandes's sister company Burny makes good Gibson copies too :
http://www.excite.co.jp/world/english/web/...p=JAEN&wb_dis=2

Forget about Gibson, unless it's pre-80s ones, imo. wink.gif

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HA! One flaw on the tokai!!! NO SELECTOR SWITCH PLATE!!!! HA HA HA HA!!

ok..... I'm over it now.....

In all other sense, yeah, it looks DAMN good. Except that it's PURE white, and the Gibson Les Paul is more towards a Vanilla colored white.....

Yes.... I'm nit-picking..... but you can't blame me.... I'm a Zakk Fanatic!
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i tought Tokai has stopped producing LP copy at the moment.
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talking about cheap amps..i'd recommend mine. haha how appropriate. its a vox ad30vt. its under 1k. 30 watts. solid state modeling preamp and tube poweramp. bang for ur buck.

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Where can I find those? ^
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QUOTE(sean392 @ Jun 18 2005, 10:20 PM)
http://www.citymusic.com.sg/craftsman.htm
ah.... this lespaul copy i like biggrin.gif
is maple a good type of wood??
compared to rosewood n mahogany ><
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Oh...my ex-roomate have this. The tuning machine not very good, so easy out of tune. If u encounter that problem, just change to a better one.

QUOTE(headhunter7 @ Jun 19 2005, 08:08 PM)
This really looks tempting, heard tokai aren't that bad.

Tokai LP
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Damn, that's a hot mama!! notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(nick_drake @ Jun 26 2005, 01:04 PM)
talking about cheap amps..i'd recommend mine. haha how appropriate.  its a vox ad30vt. its under 1k. 30 watts. solid state modeling preamp and tube poweramp. bang for ur buck.
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Sh!t I just had a GAS on that yesterday!! The demo on their website makes it tempting!!! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

Do the AC30, Fender & Plexi modelling sound good???? How much did ya get it for?

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QUOTE(sean392 @ Jun 19 2005, 10:25 PM)
OMG its HOT!!!
now where can i find a tokai in malaysia ><||
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Orang Utan Music, Luyang, Kota Kinabalu.

Tokai distributor, H & K as well
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QUOTE(ssslayerrr @ Jun 27 2005, 10:02 AM)
Orang Utan Music, Luyang, Kota Kinabalu.
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blink.gif You're not joking, are you? blink.gif

What a name!

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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Jun 27 2005, 10:20 AM)
blink.gif You're not joking, are you?  blink.gif

What a name!

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No, really. We thought that it was funny, this guy opens a shop in KK and carries these, 'not usual' brands, like tokai (the talbo cost about 6 k, i remember, all metal), Hughs & kettner, rotosound strings, and wind instruments. We asked him if he was making money, he said no, but his parents want to keep him in KK so they just keep dumping money into the shop. Dumping was the word he used. Next, he wanted to distribute Gretsch guitars, went to germany and all that.
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slayer > delirious story, and lucky ppl in KK !

nick drake > i think the pre-amp is ONE tube + solid state, and the power amp is solid state... otherwise, it won't be at the price you got it wink.gif
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QUOTE(ssslayerrr @ Jun 27 2005, 11:10 AM)
No, really. We thought that it was funny, this guy opens a shop in KK and carries these, 'not usual' brands, like tokai (the talbo cost about 6 k, i remember, all metal), Hughs & kettner,  rotosound strings, and wind instruments. We asked him if he was making money, he said no, but his parents want to keep him in KK so they just keep dumping money into the shopDumping was the word he used. Next, he wanted to distribute Gretsch guitars, went to germany and all that.
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QUOTE(ssslayerrr @ Jun 27 2005, 10:02 AM)
Orang Utan Music, Luyang, Kota Kinabalu.

Tokai distributor, H & K as well
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where is H & K ?
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H&K can be found in one utama, forgot the name of the shop though...
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QUOTE(ssslayerrr @ Jun 27 2005, 11:10 AM)
No, really. We thought that it was funny, this guy opens a shop in KK and carries these, 'not usual' brands, like tokai (the talbo cost about 6 k, i remember, all metal), Hughs & kettner, rotosound strings, and wind instruments. We asked him if he was making money, he said no, but his parents want to keep him in KK so they just keep dumping money into the shop. Dumping was the word he used. Next, he wanted to distribute Gretsch guitars, went to germany and all that.

Wow!

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nick drake > i think the pre-amp is ONE tube + solid state, and the power amp is solid state... otherwise, it won't be at the price you got it wink.gif
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Exactly what I thought. The signal goes into a valve preamp before the solid state circuit.

Nonetheless, the clips posted on their website are tempting! Does anyone knows where to find this Vox amp? CKMusic?? I've tried the smaller version (30 watts I think) of Spider II and wasn't really impressed by the sound.

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QUOTE(sean392 @ Jun 27 2005, 02:33 PM)
where is H & K ?
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Jun 27 2005, 06:43 PM)
Wow!
Exactly what I thought. The signal goes into a valve preamp before the solid state circuit.

Nonetheless, the clips posted on their website are tempting! Does anyone knows where to find this Vox amp? CKMusic?? I've tried the smaller version (30 watts I think) of Spider II and wasn't really impressed by the sound.

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yes. ur right. ckmusic. its at 1000 for the 30 watt. noooo! nooo! spider...not that i hv tried la..read thru...

hey if u want at a bit cheaper u can pm me. i knw a guy. smile.gif not much cheaper la.
but u save a bit.
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QUOTE(nick_drake @ Jun 27 2005, 10:42 PM)
yes. ur right. ckmusic. its at 1000 for the 30 watt. noooo! nooo! spider...not that i hv tried la..read thru...

hey if u want at a bit cheaper u can pm me. i knw a guy.  smile.gif not much cheaper la.
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Woah... 1000 for 30watt?? Ishi's selling it for RM800+ inc shipping lol! If only the voltage problem could be solved!

Thanks for you offer, but I've runned out of cash, I'ill see what I can do end of this year tongue.gif . Considering the AD50VT tho since it has an external speaker out & giggy. thumbup.gif

Did ya modify your amp?? I've read reviews citing the AD30VT's speaker has room for improvement.

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ya dude!:D i considered the 50 too. giggable and all. but oh well..cannot tahan the lust!so i just thought the 30 cld be miked up run thru the pa. ya..lotsa ppl say upgrade the speakers to a celestion or eminence or whatever...ntg in my wallet right now and dk where to get speakers here.

ishi?whts that...an online site shipping here?
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If you have the cash... the Celestion Blue. thumbup.gif
I'm considering the 50 since it comes with a Celestion speaker. Heh...

Eh, do you have any recording of the amp?? thumbup.gif

Yeah, Japanese site Ishibashi.

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theres a few samples here

http://www.dolphinstreet.com/amps/vox_ad50vt
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Woah... 1000 for 30watt?? Ishi's selling it for RM800+ inc shipping lol! If only the voltage problem could be solved!

Thanks for you offer, but I've runned out of cash, I'ill see what I can do end of this year tongue.gif . Considering the AD50VT tho since it has an external speaker out & giggy. thumbup.gif

Did ya modify your amp?? I've read reviews citing the AD30VT's speaker has room for improvement.

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I've seen this one already hehe... they guy's bloody good! Lovely jazz blues licks! Thx anyway!

evo.com, it depends on the item you order but I doubt it should cost you a bomb. Around RM200 (including insurance) or more maybe? They use EMS to ship their stuff, which is very reliable. thumbup.gif
Plus, their customer service's pretty good as far as I know.

Most of the Jap made stuff are cheaper, the rest's pretty much the same (or more).

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QUOTE(ssslayerrr @ Jun 29 2005, 02:48 PM)
email them, they usually reply within a day. I know they use EMS to ship
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maybe i can consider ordering a tokai LP tongue.gif
after SPM la tongue.gif doh.gif

thx for the info on H&K hahaaha i am the NOOB
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hmmm..... do they understand english??
maybe i can consider ordering a tokai LP tongue.gif
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LOL... just mail them with the title "International Question" & the right person will sort things out for you.
Till post-SPM, good luck with your GAS! thumbup.gif

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got a reply from ishi in less than a day,
shipping for a guitar + case is pretty good imo.... 16000 yen which is around 450-500....
amp is ...... -.-
too heavy i guess
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^ that with hardshellcase or soft?

Fernandes LP

Wow...so for that one is around..52000 yen?
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Fernandes LP

Wow...so for that one is around..52000 yen?
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uhm..450 just for shipping?

BTW...one yen here how much? hahaha

and...i cant read jap..there shld be some english on ishibashi right..

EDIT:okay i hv found out the language and the currency:D

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i just went 1U today..... saw a SX LP copy for 700 bucks..... i was like i want this!!!! black beauty copy oso got..... more expensive tho....

anyone noe wut wood the SX LP copy uses??? and anyone can comment on its sound?
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i just went 1U today..... saw a SX LP copy for 700 bucks..... i was like i want this!!!! black beauty copy oso got..... more expensive tho....

anyone noe wut wood the SX LP copy uses??? and anyone can comment on its sound?
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Wow..that SX LP really get a very good feedback.
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QUOTE(sean392 @ Jul 2 2005, 03:44 PM)
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wow 700 considered as cheap ohmy.gif . not so to me as a student. if it is 500 only then considered bearable to me IMHO. sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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but im sure got discount ><;;;
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Hey I found Yamaha RGX1212s on ebay

and the shop is at SG O_O

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=7334294016
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Hey I found Yamaha RGX1212s on ebay

and the shop is at SG O_O

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=7334294016
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Wow looks great! It's a one-piece body right??? Not bidding for it?? The lovely white finish gives GAS hard-ons.

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Hey, new guy here. bass player. Looking for a the cheapest bass guitar 1 can find, coz nw broke adee. summore left 1 back at home in Pg, currently in Malacca MMU
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i''m not sure anyone on this forum is from Malacca... maybe you should do a short trip to KL, you may find good bargains there. How much do you want to spend on your bass ? and what about the amp ?
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amp nvm, have adee. jz the guitar, willing to spend as min as possible la, since the quality diff not dat high. sumwhere around rm7xx
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amp nvm, have adee. jz the guitar, willing to spend as min as possible la, since the quality diff not dat high. sumwhere around rm7xx
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Normally people will buy a very good high-end guitar first. Some of my friends, they spent like Rm2500++ for an Ibanez Guitar but didn't buy any amp to play with laugh.gif. There's a quote ... "Get a wife first before getting a new house"

After you get your super cun bass guitar, save money and get a small bass amp. If you have enough money, go ahead and buy those 100W bass amps .... at lest you still can bring u're small bass amp around to pratice.
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QUOTE(TheWhacker @ Jul 22 2005, 02:58 PM)
Normally people will buy a very good high-end guitar first. Some of my friends, they spent like Rm2500++ for an  Ibanez Guitar but didn't buy any amp to play with laugh.gif. There's a quote ... "Get a wife first before getting a new house"

After you get your super cun bass guitar, save money and get a small bass amp. If you have enough money, go ahead and buy those 100W bass amps .... at lest you still can bring u're small bass amp around to pratice.
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That's pretty much bullsh!t imo, you're gonna lose all the fun of playing and abuse your guitar if you get a high-end one. For a beginner, that's very important imo.

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yea buying such a high end guitar so fast is like suicide...imagine suddenly u lose interest in the instrument...n wats the fun in buying an electric guitar without an amp...
hey but if ur loaded, more power to u man!
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I forgot to mention some of my friends are rich ..... dry.gif

But they have a desire to play guitar, i mean , they know this is the right stuff for them. I think it's ok if you know that this is what you're look for and love to do it forever.
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QUOTE(TheWhacker @ Jul 22 2005, 05:42 PM)
I forgot to mention some of my friends are rich ..... dry.gif
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Oh I have such friends too, one of them went for a brand new Fender American Strat and a cheap Squire amp. sad.gif
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Oh I have such friends too, one of them went for a brand new Fender American Strat and a cheap Squire amp. sad.gif
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See .... people first timers always tend to spent more on the guitar and pay half the price of the guitar for an amp. I did the same thing too when I first got my guitar, spend more on the guitar ... spend the half the amount on an amp (Fender FrontMan 15W). I think it's because dunno which amp to choose yet .... so i just get a simple small amp first to play around.
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QUOTE(TheWhacker @ Jul 22 2005, 07:04 PM)
See .... people first timers always tend to spent more on the guitar and pay half the price of the guitar for an amp. I did the same thing too when I first got my guitar, spend more on the guitar ... spend the half the amount on an amp (Fender FrontMan 15W). I think it's because dunno which amp to choose yet .... so i just get a simple small amp first to play around.
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may i know how much does it cost for an american made standard strat nowadays? unsure.gif
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may i know how much does it cost for an american made standard strat nowadays? unsure.gif
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Depends on the colour for your guitar body. Those sunburst colours will be more mahal lor ... as it's hard to erh paint ? biggrin.gif

Maybe around Rm19xx - Rm23xx.

I'll check for you ....
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TheWhacker>> Can u let me know as well the price of the Mexican one?
i prefer the sunburst color...
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xnobys, i check with some shops around KL and with some of my friends .... the price for an american made standard strat ranging from Rm18xx to Rm25xx. It's aslo depends on where you buy (either at Bentley Music or some other hidden shops) and which colour model you're planning to get.

Brown Sunburst Standard Stratocaster with Rosewood Fingerboard is the most expensive one of the Standard Stratocaster because of it's colour. Well, all Sunburst have to add another $50USD ... but it looks nice.
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You might want to ask other forumers here if they know any shops selling cheaper. But take the Rm18xx to Rm25xx as a budget range.
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are you sure bout the price of the MIA strat?
the last time i was at bentley they tried to sell me a lefthanded MIA strat for 4k without discount
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are you sure bout the price of the MIA strat?
the last time i was at bentley they tried to sell me a lefthanded MIA strat for 4k without discount
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I think it's because you went to Bentley as they are famous for thier "price". I went to Mighty Music at SS2 ... it's around Rm22xx, MIA Strat. Some other shops sells cheaper ... i dunno why, well it's good for us.

Aslo depends what colour you're getting .... as i said above, Sunburst need to add $50USD to $150USD.
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yah..bents overpriced.

so mighty music's the way to go i guess.


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just additional infos on cheap guitars and amps. posted it a while back... hope they are not redundant infos...

cheap guitars
Dean Markley
Junior package 1
craftsman ST-30 guitar and Dean Markley K20X 15watt amp @ RM600
Junior package 2
same guitar but with Dean Markley K15X 10watt amp @ RM550
Junior package 3
same guitar with Dean Markley K30RX 20watt amp (with reverb) @ RM700

cheap amps
Brand X amp (a subsidiary of Fender Musical Instruments)
model X25R (25watt) @ RM580; and
Fender Bullet 150 guitar amp @ RM790
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i think my guitar and amp belongs in this category.
mine is a yamaha electric guitar beginner's set, a yamaha ERG-121 and a GA 10, along with tuner, strings, picks, truss rod adjustments and gizmos for rm950.
allow me to do a mini review on this package, ya?

the amp should be avoided like the plague. yes, it works extremely good for beginners. the distortion's fine, the clean's good. no overdrive though. a 10 watter. it worked fine for me TILL I joined guitar classes earlier this year. where i learnt the techniques and stuff. after all that, the shortcomings of the amp are really shown. for instance, palm muting sounds like fart on that. yeah, i'm not joking. and pings don't ring alot, just a short ping, for about 2 secs, 5 at most. though it might not matter to some. lol. but the muting farting sound is really a letdown. i got a KLA-20R from a friend which works alot better (MUCH!) but then he took it back for a small gig in school. meh. so i'm stuck with it now. and i'm not liking it. just telling myself that at least i have a damn amp. lol. market value is about rm320 i think.

as for the ERG-121, it's okay. much better than other guitars. looks mean. black finish. H-S-H lineup. the bridge humbucker sounds really solid, the single coil sounds decent while the neck isn't really my choice. the vintage trem bridge works fine too. only retune about once a month. pickup switch is a lil bit flawed. when u switch pickups in d middle of a song, this small "pop" sound can be heard. it's body is agathis, neck maple while fingerboard mahogany. no qualms about the fingerboard and action, just okay for it's price. i daresay a change of pickups would further increase the quality of the sound. not sure about the market price, but the guitar is really good for the package. just change the stupid amp.


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You see nerd... it's called the 'practise' amp, you weren't expecting it to sound like a 100-watt Marshall amp blasting behind you, are you? It's meant to be used for bedroom/midnight practise (Read : Low-volume) & maybe party/small gigs & that's what it does. Most practise amps are the same I think. Like my Peavey Blazer, the clean's great but the OD channel's almost unusable.

If you really want good tones on a small practice amp, I suggest you try out the Vox AD15VT. It comes with 11 amp models (Boutique Clean & OD, Tweed, Blackface, AC15, AC30TB, UK70s, UK80s, UK Modern, US High Gain, NuMetal) CK Music has it, it's probably a little more expensive but worth the bucks imo.

Well, just give it a try anyway & recommend it to other players. thumbup.gif

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yeah i know.. but i've tried a kustom KGA-10 b4.. a 10 watter and a practice amp.. and it sounds ALOT nice than the GA-10.. i CAN get the vox ad60VT or the roland cube 60.. IF i get 10As for my SPM trials.. that's what my dad told me.. sweat.gif
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Have you tried the clean channel on the Kustom? I'm not too sure about their amps, but if their clean channel's good, then it's bloody good.

Sh!t AD60VT... and only SPM trials. I wonder what you'ill get if you get 10As for the real SPM...

...Marshall stack??? OMG!!!! Just remember to invite us to your house for some jamming. tongue.gif wink.gif
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the clean channel's fine.. love it. the disto rocks too. more like the kgr16, just softer.

meh, i'm not confident in 10As for trials! gonna be damn hard. just 30 days away.. damn!


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the clean channel's fine.. love it. the disto rocks too. more like the kgr16, just softer.

meh, i'm not confident in 10As for trials! gonna be damn hard. just 30 days away.. damn!
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Besides, I think u're parents will be proud of you IF you try your best smile.gif

So go on and grab those 10 As into the beg rolleyes.gif
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lol I beat you theWhacker, any prizes??? tongue.gif

You see I studied everything last minute (Almost all the night before the actual exam) and got satisfying results. If you study much earlier and try your very best, 10A1s should be nothing for you, let alone 10As.

Then, of course... invite us for jamminglar!
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haha alright thewhacker! will try my best. i'll try and get double of urs! lol tongue.gif

anyway, i think the ad60vt's too expensive lol. my dad'll flip when he sees the price. tongue.gif i think it's about 700USD? and that's without tax here.. maybe the cube 60 will suit d budget.. 230 pounds.. not meaning to brag, for those who think i am.. hopefully i can replace my GA-10 ASAP biggrin.gif if i don't get 10A1s guess i'll fork out my duit raya after spm to get a MS-2 lol. or maybe get the KGR 16 tongue.gif

anyway, to avoid running offtopic, viking amps are another hybrid to be avoided. they got overdrive but it's extremely muddy.
IMO, the best starter amps (about 10-20W) are squier's, ibanez, and kustoms.


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Kustom amps are really good for the low-range. Their Distortion is actually pretty good...... especially if you pair it up with a Overdrive pedal......

And don't worry too much nerd......
I only got 1A..... hahahahaha.....
but still averaged out a Grade 2..... mine was the "last of worst" batch, so I got away lucky. heck.... I even failed EVERY SINGLE SUBJECT (save English and BM... hahahah) during the trials.

And STILL got accepted to both HELP institute AND MMU by the way.
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The AD50VT's going for RM1200++ best price and the 60VT is much more expensive I think. Haha... I'm waiting for Ang Paus here haha. Let's visit each other to double our money. XD XD XD Not to forget ssslayerrr and ModD. tongue.gif tongue.gif

Behringer has a pretty good starter amp too. The clean tone on that one is extremely warm, the OD channel's pretty usable too. thumbup.gif
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AD50VT rm1200? cun lah. my target list.
but according to reviews, the mesa modeller sounds kinda digital compared to the roland cube. the mesa modeller is what i'm craving.. i'm a metallica guy.. oh of coz the jcm800 modeller is another one i'm looking for..

one more month b4 trials, can i make it? i'm doing okay, just failed addmaths for my midterm.. 2A1s, 1F, and a lil bit in between..

when choosing my electric guitar, my dad tried the behringer and didn't like it (that time i knew nuts about guitar). true kustoms are more towards the value-for-money range. really sweet sounding for the price. havent tried the higher end ones though. played with the 10W, 16W and 20W ones and they sound really nice. agreed will rock if paired with an OD pedal.

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Of course.... if you got the cash....... go for the ZW-44 so you can get a little more headroom in the overdrive department.
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how's the sound of SD-1 like? ZW-44 is in my target list once i get the money.
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do consider whether are you going to need that xtra volume
an AD50 is not much louder thanan AD30...
a 300w amp is only twice as loud as a 30w amp...
im sure some1 here has mentioned it before
summor if its strictly for bedroom practice it'll be pretty damn loud and if its for jamming with a drummer... a 50w SS isnt powerful enough for that
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I used my 15 watter for medium gigs and it worked fine lol! The AD50VT's good enough for small to medium gigs (After all, you're cranking the damn thing up!). In case you're playing in larger venues, just mic the thing up.

If you're still in doubt, the thing comes with a speaker output. Eg. If you want a true Marshall amp sound, just hook it up to one of those Marshall 4x12 cabs & voila!

Bedroom practises??? Turn to the back of the AD50VT and you'ill see an 'Adjustable Output Wattage' (Not available in the AD15VT tho). It saturates the poweramp's output wattage . In other words, it's a volume control. This means that you could crank the amp up at bedroom level. You don't have to substitute tone for volume now!!! Otherwise get a pair of headphones and plug it into the phones out. Your neighbours will love you. smile.gif

I've done my homework Evo.com tongue.gif I've downloaded all the video clips, audio clips and even the manual from various places. If you guys want, I can upload as a torrent and post it here. thumbup.gif

Oh yeah, the AD50VT has a hidden noise gate too. It's only touched lightly in the manual.
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you gotta be kidding me....
you use your 15 wat for you gigs? o_O
didnt know the ad50 has got a power output control... impressive smile.gif
you're really a guitar phreak... lol
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No joke. Remember our school hall? Suan Aik used his Peavey amps for all his gigs too. Sometimes he mic it up, sometimes he doesn't, but it was loud enough. But it won't sound as good as being mic'ed up. Then again you know our school's PA.

LOL I only check out that stuff I'm considering getting. I've tried the Line 6 30watt Spider and it has an impressive clean sound. The Metal setting's pretty good but I have no use for that. I tried the AD30VT but didn't find much love with it, sad.gif determined to try that again! tongue.gif
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wah led zep. mmg awesome info! thx alot! yeah another feature that sets the AD50 and the AD30 is the external speaker support.. who cares if it doest supply enough wattage for gigs? there's the external speaker support.. and for now, i'm not doing gigs, heck, i dont even haf a proper band..

erm, ledzep, can give ur opinion on the mesa modeller of the vox? and what's a noise gate?

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Haha... my ears are not that goodlar... to my ears the Tweed, Black, Boutique Clean settings sound very very impressive (Blues guitarists will love this). I wasn't very sure about the rest, not much time to play with them that day. Though I've read reviews saying that the HiGain models are very impressive, especially the nu-metal settings which nail the scooped-mid sound perfectly.

nick_drake has the AD30VT, perhaps you should ask him for comments. thumbup.gif

Do you want the clips? It won't take long for me to post. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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narh i can demo nick_drake's ad30vt anytime, he's a friend of mine.. just that i don't have the time..

u still havent answered my question! tongue.gif
what's a noise gate?

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Oh really? Hah... I wanna try osolar lol... somehow trying it in guitar stores doesn't cut it. tongue.gif

Noise gate's a noise eliminator, you'ill lose some sustain if you turn up the nose gate. Just turn if off if you wanna hear the amp models in full potential. smile.gif

Btw, CK Music doesn't have the AD50VT in stock. You probably have to order it at least 1 month in advance heh. When are you getting it? Early next year? If so, we both go orderlar lol. tongue.gif
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if i get my straight As.. straight away after SPM! lol. if i don't get straight for trials, then it's straight for SPM.. which is march or so.. T_T

how much is the AD15VT? not really interested but just asking..
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Hah, don't be like me. Focus on studies now and don't let GAS occupy your time. tongue.gif If you're getting it earlier, mind if I drop by to give it a test run? tongue.gif tongue.gif

Forgotten about the AD15VT. The AD30VT's RM900 after discount tho (Retail RM1000). So the 15 should be RM500-700 lar heh.

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sure we'll see how it goes.. at least a 70 for 10 subjects.. T_T

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wah...a lot of talk on the ad series! cool!...

ok since led zep has the ad 50..and has given much info abt it...im not going to say much. but, its an 8 ohm output right? it wont handle 4x12s i heard..only 2X12s...correct me if im wrong.

the ad30 doesnt hv a speaker out. it is very very loud and can be miked up and everything will be okay. i hv asked the guitarist of local indie band 'flatline', he owns the same amp too and i saw him gig with the ad30. he said its loud enough for small/medium clubs with ease. anything larger...mike. there u go. smile.gif honestly, i was torn between the ad50 and 30 before buying...but due to money, i just got the ad30. but im very satisfied.

nerd: the noise gate shuns out unwanted buzz...but also eats ur sustain,(its adjustable, just find ur sweet spot) if u back off the volume knob, clean sounds are hard to achieve. normally i turn it off.(noise gate). the mesa modeller is good. its my fav actually. i use it the most. u hv to really tinker with the eq knobs to get a sweet spot out of it. and u hv to keep tinkering at different volumes.i found that out just today when i cranked it up at my bassists and found it too sharp. other than that..the tone is great. dynamics are good too. considering the poweramp tube. the perfect place for a tube in a hybrid. other than the mesa, i favor the jcm 800 and ac30 models too. but its ultimately ur taste lahhh...smile.gif
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Jul 31 2005, 05:21 PM)
No joke. Remember our school hall? Suan Aik used his Peavey amps for all his gigs too. Sometimes he mic it up, sometimes he doesn't, but it was loud enough. But it won't sound as good as being mic'ed up. Then again you know our school's PA.

LOL I only check out that stuff I'm considering getting. I've tried the Line 6 30watt Spider and it has an impressive clean sound. The Metal setting's pretty good but I have no use for that. I tried the AD30VT but didn't find much love with it, sad.gif  determined to try that again! tongue.gif
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led doesnt have an ad50 la.. he just did alot of research on it.. his target amp..

drake, u mean tinker with the EQ?
edited: don't u mean preamp tube in ur post?

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yah..i knw...thts why i just edited that post. biggrin.gif

yes! tinker the hell outta that eq. and the gain levels too. with the mesa, the gain is tremendous. so i just leave it at 11 oclock..i can get enough crunch for my pop rock..but not so with ur metal.smile.gif

another thing with the ad30 and 50(not 15) , is that u crank up the two volume knobs. master and volume. this cooks the power tube..in a good way.biggrin.gif then use the wattage selector behind to control the volume. this is actually advocated by the folks at vox itself in the manual. biggrin.gif so u get that tuuubeeey like scream!:D sorry. im just so excited over my baby.
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no nerd. many ppl mistake the ad's tube to be in the preamp section. it is a preamp tube tho..but stuck at the power amp stage of the circuit. if u read the manual online, u'll find out more. digital modeling preamp for tone+tube power amp for warmth=sex. biggrin.gif

but it actually is more complicated..the manual will get u all geeky.biggrin.gif
http://www.voxamps.co.uk/downloads/AD15_30_50VT_E2.pdf
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haha yeah.. drake and his pop n punk rock songs.. n he plays it real well too! biggrin.gif

mesa's dual recto is reknowned for it's goddamnly high gain.. check out any recent concert vid by metallica and u'll know..

gonna give d manual a read.. i love that kinda stuff.. wub.gif

drake, thx 4 d info on the tubes inside the vox.
gotta give ur ad30 a try. when r u free? biggrin.gif
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smile.gif nprb nerd. strange how we're online now and still post here. same like how we're in school. biggrin.gif

nah ...anyones grandmother can play pop punk well. tongue.gif

im free on tuesdays.and weekends. if u dont mind my messy room, feel free.smile.gif
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I've tried the Spider twice, first time I tried, I was totally turned off by it. But the second time it hold up pretty well. I didn't like the Crunch channel though, very digital sounding imho.

I didn't know that the tube's stuck in the power-amp stage heh. nick_drake you're not planning to change your speakers? tongue.gif
Anyway can I come along for the test drive ar? tongue.gif Do you mind? tongue.gif I really wanna spend more time with it, I was rushing time the other day (went for the Faders' performance) & I couldn't get a good tone from the UK70s and AC30 models. Like I've said above, I loved the clean tones, the Tweed and Black models are very sweet. Reverb's pretty good too. smile.gif
Anyway I agree with you nick_drake, the presets suck, I turn it off immediately that day.
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QUOTE(nick_drake @ Jul 31 2005, 09:06 PM)
smile.gif nprb nerd. strange how we're online now and still post here. same like how we're in school. biggrin.gif

nah ...anyones grandmother can play pop punk well. tongue.gif

im free on tuesdays.and weekends. if u dont mind my messy room, feel free.smile.gif
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cry.gif no one luvs cheap ol behringer v-ampire??? tongue.gif

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Haha... you have the V-amp sean392??? How's it??

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v-ampire it's not exactly "cheap" and "old".. lol
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haha..ledzep sure u can come and try. where do u live? im in subang usj. if u dont mind the trouble..

ah! i knw! u three come..sean nerd and ledzep..then u all share money belanja me teh tarik ice bungkus. at least i got sth to do while u all play the amp:P ah..j/k lah biggrin.gif

EDIT: no im not planning to change the speakers...i dont knw how much that will affect the sound..but ppl say it does a lot. btw...how much u think they will cost?... unsure.gif

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QUOTE(nick_drake @ Aug 1 2005, 05:14 PM)
haha..ledzep sure u can come and try. where do u live? im in subang usj. if u dont mind the trouble..
ah! i knw! u three come..sean nerd and ledzep..then u all share money belanja me teh tarik ice bungkus. at least i got sth to do while u all play the amp:P ah..j/k lah biggrin.gif

EDIT: no im not planning to change the speakers...i dont knw how much that will affect the sound..but ppl say it does a lot. btw...how much u think they will cost?... unsure.gif
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Haha Your teh tarik want kurang manis onot? XD

Try listening your amp through headphones and see if there's a huge difference in tonal quality. I'm not sure how much a speaker would cost too, probably RM200-400. I do know that the Celestion Blue speaker would cost you a bomb tho. tongue.gif

Then again, if you're only using the Mesa settings and if the Mesa sounds good on the stock speaker, just leave it that way. smile.gif

Edit : I'm not too familiar with USJ's roads but I study in Taylor's, perhaps we could meet somewhere? thumbup.gif

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ah..i m not really sure too where ur taylors pj is...and with spm around the corner..im finding it hard to sneak out nowadays...sad.gif

but if u really want to check out the amp..can la..we'll see how. smile.gif

or u cld drop by ck alternatively...

i hvnt tried headphones tho...and me being ur common powerchord whore...the mesa only lah...haha..smile.gif

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I'm studying in Taylor's Subang lar lol...
See howlar, if I know where you live & can get a car it would be a lot easier lol. Where do you guys study in anyway?
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i live in usj 5. we study in smk usj4. dunno if it makes much sense to you?
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taylor's subang is quite near.. ss15.. maybe can go to the sri melur there for drake's teh ais bungkus lol tongue.gif

the roads leading from ss15 to usj is quite simple IMO.

hope thewhacker doesnt screw us for being too offtopic..
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Haha... how far is your school from Sri Melur? 10-minute-walk??? Maybe I'ill just walk there instead.

When are you guys free? thumbup.gif
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our school from ss15 sri melur is FAR.. but taylor's ss15 from sri melur is near .. tongue.gif

i'm free after SPM.. tongue.gif

now also i can but dpends on when lo..
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i somehow think that there are better models out there, maybe a canadian or states made guitar round rm500+ to rm600+???

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They do boat engines also... dunno if it helps though laugh.gif
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where exactly dude? Sorry but not very techy heheherrrr...
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If you guys looking for second hand GUITAR EFFECT PEDALS ME-50(5 MTH USED)for RM950, look into here

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can chit chat ar here?

btw,searching for a fuken cheap acoustic/kapok
as long can play.


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QUOTE(thesexpistols @ Aug 16 2005, 04:33 PM)
can chit chat ar here?

btw,searching for a fuken cheap acoustic/kapok
as long can play.
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u can get kapok for a measly rm40. you can't get anymore cheaper than that...
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why wld u want a kapok for? its..like quite unplayable.
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i don't know... maybe some guitar bashing a-la nirvana after the show, maybe?
kapok is not that expensive....
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Guys, kindly recom me some cheap amps...
cheap as in good price n good quality.....hehehe (i know is too much to ask for, but hey i'm a consumer, m i?)
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Guys, i saw this Suzuki brand guitar with pickup and all at RM 580 - the sound is acceptable to me (though didn't get to fully test it).

was wondering if you guys have any comments on this particular brand? biggrin.gif

i saw it at The Guitar Shop, Damansara Perdana branch when i was sending an Ibanez for repair/servicing.
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Suzuki ? As in the motobike brand ?
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Suzuki ? As in the motobike brand ?
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haha. i understand your "puzzlement".

no, i don't see any Suzuki logo though. just the word Suzuki. tongue.gif can't get a Swift, get a guitar. haha.

just happen to be in the shop. looks quite ok. RM 580 with 2 bar of adjustment for tone and volume.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 18 2005, 02:11 PM)
haha. i understand your "puzzlement".

no, i don't see any Suzuki logo though. just the word Suzuki. tongue.gif can't get a Swift, get a guitar. haha.

just happen to be in the shop. looks quite ok. RM 580 with 2 bar of adjustment for tone and volume.
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P/S: and don't post a motobike picture laugh.gif
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QUOTE(tanton82 @ Aug 18 2005, 10:19 AM)
Guys, kindly recom me some cheap amps...
cheap as in good price n good quality.....hehehe (i know is too much to ask for, but hey i'm a consumer, m i?)
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What's your budget? biggrin.gif
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led_zep>> u got e there. i dunno how much to assume. guess an "ok" amp will do...lookin at roughly 15 watts...
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led_zep>> u got e there. i dunno how much to assume. guess an "ok" amp will do...lookin at roughly 15 watts...
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- Vox AD15VT (nick_drake has one, he loves it I think)
- Roland Cube 15/30(evo.com has the 15 one, any opinions evo?)
- Tech 21 Trademark 15
- Epiphone Valve Junior (It comes with only one volume control and if you want a good valve sound at a cheap price, this one should be it. If it's available locally, that is.)

If you have the time, check out the Marshall MG15CD, the new Fender G-Dec, Behringer Firebird(Surprisingly warm clean tone)/Vintager, Peavey Rage/Blazer, Line 6 Spider II as well.

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nickdrake has the ad30VT biggrin.gif

anyway, like ledzep said, the vox AD15 or roland cube 15 are good bargains. try 'em out!
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Yeah, my bad, he has the AD30VT... pretty sleep now lol.

Eh nerd, when are you up for the teh-tarik-cum-vox-test party? tongue.gif tongue.gif
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roland cubes and voxads are by far the best for value imo
ofcuz if you like that marshall crunch you can always go for the MGs

personally i like the voxad and roland cube better
ive got the cube 15 and yea im quite satisfied with it... i mean cmon... for RM500... what is there to complain tongue.gif
dist isnt the best i must say.... but the cleans are just wonderful...
pros: very nice cleans.... even at low volumn
cons: no reverb, bad headphone out(fuzzy)

cube 30 much better..... but hell..... i dont think its worth the extra 500 for bedroom use

ive only tried the voxAD30 and 60
slightly better than the cube because of the amp sims... ive nv tried an AC30 so i cant comment on how it compares with the real thing... obviously its not going to be as good as the original but i guess its alright...

try the cube at bentley.... and the AD at ckmusic....
the salesperson aint gonna bite you.... well maybe the bentley guys will but hey... who goes to KL without a knife tongue.gif
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how much the behringer V-ampire???
is it around rm 600???


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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Aug 18 2005, 10:59 PM)
Yeah, my bad, he has the AD30VT... pretty sleep now lol.

Eh nerd, when are you up for the teh-tarik-cum-vox-test party? tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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yeah ..trials here too...

the ad15..shld retail around 700+...

what else man? either that or the cube la..

at 700..its a steal man..oh well u might as well just wait and save a little more for a ad30.

ok..enough of me whoring the ad series..

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Some pictures of the "motobike" guitar would be nice ....

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what about laney amps? saw a Laney HC 30 watts on swee lee's website. any idea which shop is carrying laney n how much they r selling?
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i think yamaha carries laney
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just saw at Yamaha
they carries Laney
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thx for ur inputs.
wut s the price for vox vr15?
wut abt vr30?
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hie.....newbie in this thread.....will start my course on playing electric guitar after my final year exam....i'm willing to buy a guitar soon.....
my budget of a electric guitar is around RM1500-RM2200, slightly more than that is okie....can u all reconmmaned me a nice guitar for me,a newbie.....
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QUOTE(ANGELING @ Sep 5 2005, 04:26 PM)
my budget of a electric guitar is around RM1500-RM2200, slightly more than that is okie....can u all reconmmaned me a nice guitar for me,a newbie.....
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You want with amp with that bugget ? Or just the guitar alone ?

SX guitars are affordable with good workmanship plus it plays well. Do goggle around for that brand. You can get a good SX guitar for under Rm2000.
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okie....googling now.....

i would like to have the AMP for RM2200 together......thx

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angeling>> mind to tell what kind of musics u r into? or wut kind of songs u wanna play? i think its easier for the rest of us here to make any suggestion to u.
i'm sure with ur budget u can find a really decent guitar and amps for beginners.
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erm....slow rock or rock.....
the elctric guitar can play the slow music tone such as the sound that comes out from normal guitar? according to my friends,he said that i have to add another piece of thing....isn't it?
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okie....googling now.....

i would like to have the AMP for RM2200 together......thx
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a MIM fender strat + a 15 watt amp.. roland cube 15 or the voxAD15
There are alot of really well made MIM strats out there.... just get an expert to play and choose for you....

or a cube 30/Vox AD30 + Samick/SX/Squier... the "inferior" brands...
yamaha guitars get quite good reviews.... especially the 2005 new models
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oh....thx for the info....but i still dun have much knowledge about that....after i start my lesson just i make my decission on amp......

how's the XS LP standard? how's the sound?
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The Yamaha Pacifica range are superb guitars. Any model within your budget should be a serious candidate imo.

Anyway, the new RGX models not only look great, but (apparently) sound good too. The thing about Yamaha guitars is that 'you get what you pay for'. And if you don't believe it, go down to Combo Mix and try one out. wink.gif
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http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/List/M...YP%253D,00.html

may i know which model that u mention just now?

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All of them, if you're unsure what guitar you want, the 112 is the safest bet. However, all of them give you a good deal for your money. If you can afford them, that is. wink.gif wink.gif

The thing is that our local Yammy guitars are made in Indonesia, I dunno if that makes a vast difference, but I thought just so you know anyway.
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QUOTE(ANGELING @ Sep 5 2005, 09:28 PM)
oh....thx for the info....but i still dun have much knowledge about that....after i start my lesson just i make my decission on amp......

how's the XS LP standard? how's the sound?
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Yo Angeling, you said you like Slow rock? or Rock? then you're safest bet is a Tele IMO. An LP is not as versatile as some ppl think. But a Tele can get closest to that "normal guitar" sound you were talking about- Mexican Teles are beautiful and costs around 2K. Or you can always buy a Squire/SX Tele which I have had great experiences with. Teles are great for strumming and EXTREMELY versatile!

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oh.....really ths ur information.......will discuss with my friends 1st......between.....as a newbie.....i can learn the basic by using this great electris guitars....?

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(quite) cheap amps

Fender Bullet 150 guitar amp @ RM790
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angeling>> since u r new to guitar, i would advise u to avoid choosing guitars with trem/ floyd rose . tuning / restring them is sometimes pain in the arse. i think the strat is a pretty good choice! Well, i know u like LP guitars (seeing that u 've brought up quite a few times), but bear in mind that it is VERY heavy, n limited access to higher frets. but if u like thick, warm tone, then nothing beats the les paul!

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Hmm... since you're new to guitar, try checking out the new Fender G-Dec amp. Basically it's a digital-modelling amp with a 'band' in it. There're some presets for drums & rhythm patterns inside, great for keeping up with the beat. thumbup.gif

& I second evo.com's choice of amps : Vox AD15VT & Roland Cube 15. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(tanton82 @ Sep 6 2005, 09:44 AM)
angeling>> since u r new to guitar, i would advise u to avoid choosing guitars with trem/ floyd rose . tuning / restring them is sometimes pain in the arse. i think the strat is a pretty good choice! Well, i know u like LP guitars (seeing that u 've brought up quite a few times), but bear in mind that it is VERY heavy, n limited access to higher frets. but if u like thick, warm tone, then nothing beats the les paul!

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icic...all musicians here so caring.....but how about the YAMAHA Pacifica models?
i've check the pricing for it....it's around RM1800 for certain website.....does it suitable for me?


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Hmm... since you're new to guitar, try checking out the new Fender G-Dec amp. Basically it's a digital-modelling amp with a 'band' in it. There're some presets for drums & rhythm patterns inside, great for keeping up with the beat. thumbup.gif

& I second evo.com's choice of amps : Vox AD15VT & Roland Cube 15. thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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okie.....thx for ur information.....i'll with my friend to a YAMAHA music store...good service....hope that i can get more information there and touch the guitars with my hand...... thumbup.gif .........

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angeling>> it would be nice if u post the price of those yamahas in the price thread. peace
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hmmm... go for squire start la bro coz it a fixed bridge... or else u want to BOMB sure must used the floyd rose bridge hehehe... If dloyd rose go for Ibanez la or ESP or Grassroot (but LTD hampeh sket for the neck) hehehe... but very expensive la if the one from japan... then for the pick up if got budget change the pick up to dmarzio or seymour duncan... amp then go for marshall, peavy or fender also nice... if got enough budget go for the Line6 modelling amp... hehehe smile.gif sure puas hati punya... then u will need gadget @ efx... ie multi efx or stompbox... if multi efx i sugget go for Line6 XT live... hehehe... but price now rm1.5k la... but puas hati la... or stompbox paling cikai pun sure must use the Boss mtal zone, then nak delay sket sure use the digital delay DD3 or DD5... smile.gif peace...

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anyone have ideas how much do these Ibanez amps cost????TB25,TB25R,TB15,TB15R,IBZ10G cost????how bout the 35watts one???please help..
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anyone have any idea how much do these Ibanez amps cost????TB25,TB25R,TB15,TB15R,IBZ10G cost????how bout the 35watts one???please help..
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QUOTE(ARe-BeaR @ Sep 6 2005, 06:11 PM)
hmmm... go for squire start la bro coz it a fixed bridge... or else u want to BOMB sure must used the floyd rose bridge hehehe... If dloyd rose go for Ibanez la or ESP or Grassroot (but LTD hampeh sket for the neck) hehehe... but very expensive la if the one from japan... then for the pick up if got budget change the pick up to dmarzio or seymour duncan... amp then go for marshall, peavy or fender also nice... if got enough budget go for the Line6 modelling amp... hehehe smile.gif sure puas hati punya... then u will need gadget @ efx... ie multi efx or stompbox... if multi efx i sugget go for Line6 XT live... hehehe... but price now rm1.5k la... but puas hati la... or stompbox paling cikai pun sure must use the Boss mtal zone, then nak delay sket sure use the digital delay DD3 or DD5... smile.gif peace...

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Bentley Music distributor for Ibanez in mesia sell ibanez and other products now expensive than last year... hmmm... last year my friend bought Ibanez Jem 555 Steve Vai signature (korean made) for only rm2.3k but now there selling around rm3k la...
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QUOTE(ARe-BeaR @ Sep 6 2005, 11:23 PM)
Bentley Music distributor for Ibanez in mesia sell ibanez and other products now expensive than last year... hmmm... last year my friend bought Ibanez Jem 555 Steve Vai signature (korean made) for only rm2.3k but now there selling around rm3k la...
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now my budget is RM2500 for a electris guitar only....
actually my point is YAMAHA,after i read some of the post on certain website said that YAMAHA is not so good on their guitar....but the forumers here said that YAMAHA is 'u get what u pay'....really confusing now....
about fender and ibanez.....many website show me that it's a good guitar and the lover for many guitarist......feels like wanna change my choices now.....

may i have to some suggestion about Fender and Ibanez electris guitars?
from RM2200-RM2500....


thx thx thx ....

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Just so you know, the advice "Any Pacifica within your budget should be considered as they are value guitars" is not taken from my mouth, but Guitarist magazine itself, which is a magazine focusing on gear reviews.

As I've said, go out there any try as many guitars as you can, remember to use your ears, not your eyes. wink.gif wink.gif
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yo guys wanna ask for help over here

heard from u guys that the SX LP is good... how much is it for them? and what bout the sx strat? how much for it?

and any amp recommendation for budget ard rm500? i tested out the roland cube not bad since there's so many effects on it

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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Sep 9 2005, 12:53 AM)
Just so you know, the advice "Any Pacifica within your budget should be considered as they are value guitars" is not taken from my mouth, but Guitarist magazine itself, which is a magazine focusing on gear reviews.

As I've said, go out there any try as many guitars as you can, remember to use your ears, not your eyes. wink.gif  wink.gif
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okie...fully understanded ur comment......thx....
fater i've googling for a whole yesterday night.....i've state my point back to PACIFICA....hehe thumbup.gif

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^ new generation of yamaha guitar RGX A2 here
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yo guys wanna ask for help over here

heard from u guys that the SX LP is good... how much is it for them? and what bout the sx strat? how much for it?

and any amp recommendation for budget ard rm500? i tested out the roland cube not bad since there's so many effects on it
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sorry ma man...still can't find it....izzit in garage sale or bulk or jubi....???
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thanks for the suggestion whacker...srry i posted on this section earlier...
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QUOTE(TheWhacker @ Sep 9 2005, 03:56 PM)
Waa.. Noob here also. Thats quite a deal la but I oleidi got sekenhen guitar last month for RM280 la - An Aria Pro II STG-02X-3C. Can't find much info 'bout this guitar on the internet la.. No review olso..

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QUOTE(ANGELING @ Sep 9 2005, 12:06 AM)
may i have to some suggestion about Fender and Ibanez electris guitars?
from RM2200-RM2500....
thx thx thx ....
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i think that the earlier posts in this thread has the answer you're looking for...

QUOTE(neotoxin @ Sep 9 2005, 05:58 PM)
Waa.. Noob here also. Thats quite a deal la but I oleidi got sekenhen guitar last month for RM280 la - An Aria Pro II STG-02X-3C. Can't find much info 'bout this guitar on the internet la.. No review olso..
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try here or here.
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lots of user reviews..
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With harmony-central it's always good to filter out noob reviews &those are ones who usually uses vocabulary like "this guitar rocks!!" etc etc. I usually pay more attention to players who have play for more than 10 years and have owned lots of gears.

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QUOTE(neotoxin @ Sep 9 2005, 05:58 PM)
Waa.. Noob here also. Thats quite a deal la but I oleidi got sekenhen guitar last month for RM280 la - An Aria Pro II STG-02X-3C. Can't find much info 'bout this guitar on the internet la.. No review olso..
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If it sounds and plays good to you, then its good.
No matter what other people say, it's their own personal preference.
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but it sure helps to know what otheers think....
especially when it comes to durability... and stuff like power supplies etc

and reviews are really useful for beginners or 1st timers when it comes to purchasing guitars and amps... especialy when you're spending 2-3000
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as for me.. i check the reviews on durability more than sound.. coz it's important, durability is objective, while sound is subjective.
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whcih model?
my friend has the Laney LC15 tube... its really good for a 15w tube
loud as hell and good cleans

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QUOTE(evo.com @ Sep 10 2005, 09:15 AM)
www.harmony-central.com

lots of user reviews..
Thanks.. found 1 Review although the model is slightly different (STG-02-3X) instead of STG-02X-3C. The only different with these 2 is only the harware. STG-02-3X have gold hardwares whereas mine having chrome hardware with tobacco burst body.

Found 1 for sale at ebay also..

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Anything under 1000 for 100W guitar ams??
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Why would you need so much watts ? O_o...
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haha....for glass breaking.....100W is very very powerfull already......if u switch it to max maybe ur ear will 'Beeeeeee' for a while......
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hahaha
need it for jamming. no $$$ for stack...so i guess 100W combo will do
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i'm finding a guitar for my friends now.....the price range is RM2300-RM2600.....anyway....she was insisted that she love Fender,Yamaha and Ibanez as well.......
i ask this is for my own good too...by the way i can have much choices b4 i take pacifica.....

A question from me too.....
The YAMAHA pacifica 612v with RM<2500 with a case or not?
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QUOTE(ANGELING @ Sep 15 2005, 11:37 PM)
i'm finding a guitar for my friends now.....the price range is RM2300-RM2600.....anyway....she was insisted that she love Fender,Yamaha and Ibanez as well.......
i ask this is for my own good too...by the way i can have much choices b4 i take pacifica.....
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If her budget's so high she should consider the Fender MIA and MIJ strats, the MIM ones are good but I personally think the MIJ ones are the best. I'm not really sure about Ibanez, the thing is that they're not built as good as they used to be but heck, they give you a bang for your buck.
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icic....i'm not so sure about the price of the MIJ Stratocaster......from the price list there is $1356.99 for the americian stratocaster series....RM5115.37 after converted......wow...double already....can somebody reconmaned my friends a Fender?
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QUOTE(tanton82 @ Sep 12 2005, 02:35 PM)
hahaha
need it for jamming. no $$$ for stack...so i guess 100W combo will do
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I think, a 60W tube can be as loud as a 100W SS.
SS = if cranked up too much...It'll sound bad >.<
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a 30w tube is louder than a 100w SS

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Is there any package for starters..? blink.gif

An electric guitar + amp .......
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QUOTE(andymillenium @ Sep 19 2005, 02:40 PM)
Is there any package for starters..? blink.gif

An electric guitar + amp .......
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try search the earlier posts... it should be here somewhere...
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QUOTE(xnobys @ Jul 30 2005, 10:08 AM)
just additional infos on cheap guitars and amps. posted it a while back... hope they are not redundant infos...

cheap guitars
Dean Markley
Junior package 1
craftsman ST-30 guitar and Dean Markley K20X 15watt amp @ RM600
Junior package 2
same guitar but with Dean Markley K15X 10watt amp @ RM550
Junior package 3
same guitar with Dean Markley K30RX 20watt amp (with reverb) @ RM700

cheap amps
Brand X amp (a subsidiary of Fender Musical Instruments)
model X25R (25watt) @ RM580; and
Fender Bullet 150 guitar amp @ RM790
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found it.....are they still available..??
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QUOTE(andymillenium @ Sep 19 2005, 08:50 PM)
notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

found it.....are they still available..??
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i really doubt it. but you can check it out yourself by contacting CK music. the number should be at music shop thread. ck music usually will have their stock clearance sale at the end of the year. december if i remember it correctly...
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QUOTE(andymillenium @ Sep 19 2005, 02:40 PM)
Is there any package for starters..? blink.gif

An electric guitar + amp .......
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Try this .....

Ibanez Guitar Jumpstart package:
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GRX40 electric guitar (featuring two single coils and a bridge humbucker),
10-watt dedicated guitar amp (with gain, bass, middle, treble and volume controls),
electronic tuner,
gig bag,
guitar strap,
instrument cable and a handful of picks.

For RM790

Bass Jumpstart package.

GSR190 bass,
10-watt dedicated guitar amp (with gain, bass, middle, treble and volume controls),
electronic tuner,
gig bag,
guitar strap,
instrument cable and a handful of picks.

For RM890

Call Bentley Music (Tel: 03-2144 3333)

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thank you whacker....... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

this is good...... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(andymillenium @ Sep 20 2005, 09:58 AM)
wah.... drool.gif
this is good...... thumbup.gif
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remember!!! don't buy the guitar just because the brand name. know the kind of music you love to play and then decide which guitar suits you...
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erm....i like pop but not too much metal...... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(andymillenium @ Sep 20 2005, 05:36 PM)
erm....i like pop but not too much metal...... sweat.gif
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if that's the case, you can't go wrong with the above mentioned guitars. like evo said, invest in a good amp first...
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guys, how about acoustics for beginner? any decent ones under 130?
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can any1 give me someinfo bout Roland micro cube amplifier. y,day pinjam from member n dis amp so good...but don't really know how to use it...
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Well, what do you want to know about it??? It could be operated by batteries, right? thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

Anyway, I came across a vid demo of the Micro Cube few days ago and thought of sharing :
http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1O0YRBG...EZ1XUEHZROFTDPR
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zep......since u've so much videos....can send fews to me that u felt appreciated with it.....or u can post it up here.....thx thx
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well...emmm...actually how to use it in proper way...hahahahah....
don't know how exactly to setting all the effects...
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QUOTE(encikapeq @ Sep 22 2005, 05:37 PM)
well...emmm...actually how to use it in proper way...hahahahah....
don't know how exactly to setting all the effects...
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i guess you can have owner's manual downloaded here.
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if you're into acoustic guitars, try the following brands:-

marvelle
they have this particular model called the JD rheme series which is about RM200. very good entry level guitar. lotsa music shops are retailing this guitar so it's pretty easy to find

fina
woh fatt's in house brand. manufactured in china. not too bad. price ranges from RM200 - RM500. my fren bought 1 & i think it's worth every buck.

SX
i don't really need to say anything more...

for electric guitars, if i had a budget of RM500 i will only buy a SX & nothing else. guess that speaks volume about how i rate this brand huh?

if you have a lil bit more $$$ to splash, then go for squier guitars. they make real value fo money fender clones.

as for guitar amps, i really like the new peaveys & fenders which are made in china. really cheap & sounds good! esp. the fender FM series, try checking it out in bentley

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guys im going for an epiphone lp either standard or custom.. cuz i live in perth now and im going back to malaysia and might go to singapore to buy the lp.. cuz i heard from my friend who bought his lp tere too for 600 sing... + good discount for a hardcase too... so wat u guys think? 600 sing for epiphone lp... cant get this price in msia
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yea get it there if its cheaper
unless ure taking flight from AUS > SG
include the trip fees to SG to the total amount then compare with woh fatt
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QUOTE(firewall @ Sep 24 2005, 03:12 AM)
if you're into acoustic guitars, try the following brands:-

marvelle
they have this particular model called the JD rheme series which is about RM200. very good entry level guitar. lotsa music shops are retailing this guitar so it's pretty easy to find

fina
woh fatt's in house brand. manufactured in china. not too bad. price ranges from RM200 - RM500. my fren bought 1 & i think it's worth every buck.

SX
i don't really need to say anything more...

for electric guitars, if i had a budget of RM500 i will only buy a SX & nothing else. guess that speaks volume about how i rate this brand huh?

if you have a lil bit more $$$ to splash, then go for squier guitars. they make real value fo money fender clones.

as for guitar amps, i really like the new peaveys & fenders which are made in china. really cheap & sounds good! esp. the fender FM series, try checking it out in bentley
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how about this one....
http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/DetailSa...oductID=2135213

any comments? actually i don't mind any decent 2nd hander too...

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mmm i dun like the colour imo
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Wanna ask, who has an SX Les Paul Custom (Black Beauty)with setneck? I read somebody did a review in harmony-central and he said he bought it for MYR600. (MYR=Malaysian Ringgit???)
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yes....MYR is malaysia ringgit.........i just know it this year coz always refer on the price of foreign items......
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Here is the review:
http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/Data...Standard-1.html

It's an SX LP Standard. I'm looking forward to get the LP Custom version. RM900 from Woh Fatt? drool.gif No discount? lol
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the custom one i saw was at 1utama new wing.....
4got which shop adi

rm900 black beauty custom
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any 2nd hand wah/ds-2 for sale?
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Wanna ask, who has an SX Les Paul Custom (Black Beauty)with setneck? I read somebody did a review in harmony-central and he said he bought it for MYR600. (MYR=Malaysian Ringgit???)
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that one is the std 1 la.....
the custom is rm900
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^^
Ohh OK, thanks!
But what's the real difference between them except the color?
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Ohh OK, thanks!
But what's the real difference between them except the color?
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im not sure .....
prolly the wood???
SPM is around the corner so i haven't been out for awhile.... y dun u ask tongue.gif
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Need a recommendation for guitar...
My Budget is around 850-1050

I need the guitar to be able to play in slow musics and metal type too
How about those Squier brand vs the SX GG Les Paul Black Beauty... from what I heard.. the SX LP is good and balance in most of the genre type of musics... Preferably got 24 frets

Well, I am not good in guitar so would really like to hear some comments from you guys

Any brand you guys will recommend me? Be it Fender (definitely out of budget ), Squier, SX, Ibanez or any la.. as long as it is around my budget
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QUOTE(davidlow7 @ Oct 5 2005, 04:19 AM)
Need a recommendation for guitar...
My Budget is around 850-1050
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If you can add another Rm200 to your budget, you can get the Squier Deluxe Stratocaster FMT.

Check it out, the guitar was reviewed by me smile.gif
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QUOTE(TheWhacker @ Oct 5 2005, 12:18 PM)
If you can add another Rm200 to your budget, you can get the Squier Deluxe Stratocaster FMT.

Check it out, the guitar was reviewed by me  smile.gif
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Nice guitar there but is there any guitar that have 24frets to recommend me around that budget again??? I am looking for a 24frets but I know it's hard to find a Squier to have 24frets which is within my the amount of budget. sweat.gif
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Why do you need 24 frets? lol... I think having 24 frets might affect the guitar's intonation but then again I'm most probably wrong. tongue.gif
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Are you the kiasu type in that "24 frets = More notes to be played" type? Or is it that you ABSOLUTELY need to play using the 24th fret?

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Nope... This guitar will not be played by me only, partly by my brother who will definitely need it. If the budget can still reach or I need to splash out a little bit more money to get that, I still don't mind... smile.gif

blacktrix, what are u trying to mean that having a 24 frets guitar is kiasu?
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what he meant dat some ppl (esp noobs) want to have that 24 frets just to "tunjuk terror" that he got more notes to play.. like "OMGWTF I CAN PLAY 2 FULL OCTAVES U CANT".. it's normal for all newcomers to guitar. as in wanna tunjuk terror..

sorry if it sounds vague, u know wat i mean?

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well.... the reason y a 24 fret neck > a 21/22 fret neck is easily noticable...
1st of all.... no it wont effect innotation...
it can play everything a 21/22 fret guitar can do... with an extra 2 frets thats all...
its like choosing a 30 speed bike over a 12 speed one.... y settle for less?

nerd> that is the dumbest shit ive ever heard... how many guys with 24 fret guitars have you come across with that kind of attitude?
no offence.

blacktrix, led zep> yea in fact there very few songs that need the 24th fret... but like i just said, y settle for less? it just like a 21/22 fret guitar with 2 extra frets....
kiasu wouldnt be appropriate to describe those with 24 fret guitars imo... well u can always correct me if im wrong

davidlow7> you wont need a 24 fret neck but its an extra...
look at samick guitars... my friend has got the PRS copy
with your budget i think a SX, Samick should be fine
or add some xtra hundred and look at yamahas....
the pacifica 112 got good reviews from guitar world... maybe led zep can add more?
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Well, you can always be the next Rusty Cooley tongue.gif . After all why settle for less? tongue.gif tongue.gif

If you're the kind of guy who loves Vai to death and wanna play his songs note-for-note, then go ahead. Otherwise you get to choose from more variety of guitars.

Pac 112? Mine's Made in Indonesia and it holds up very well. A little buzz in the top E-string on mine but could be easily fixed, the pickups don't pick that up tho. I love the PAC for its playability, it's a lot better than some SX and entry-level Ibanez I've played. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif The pickups will be good enough for beginners but you'ill need something better as you progress. Highly recommended for beginners and intemediates tho. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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thanks evo.com for ur comments..
Well, it's true...

It's great to hear all the comments but i have so many friends oredi have a 22 frets guitar.. and some of them need 24 .... so why i still settle for 22? and we can still exchange guitars to play at times.... and my brother also do play my guitar...

but i dun mind hearing more opinions... dun worry guys.... just give ur opinions.. smile.gif
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My sentiments is EXACTLY what nerd says.

I'm just saying that if you want to spend an extra like 500 bucks for those extra frets when you don't need them, you just WANT them because well, EXTRA frets, then I think it's bloddy stupid to do that.

MOST of us here play the regular fretboard layout and it's capable of playing all the songs that we want to play on the 6 string. You're not loosing out on anything even if you're using the standard 21/22 fret. REALLY.

So if you found a VERY good guitar for your price range (like the SX Black Beauty), but you're only drawback is the 24th fret, then I say go for the Black Beauty. You're not loosing out on anything.

And don't forget, it's YOUR guitar... not your friends. Play what YOU want to play. Last time, my bandmates asked me to go for a 7 string ibanez. I sticked to my Les Paul and never looked back since.

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Well a 24-fret-guitar does have its advantages :
http://www.edromanguitars.com/tech/22vs24.htm

The author's obviously a little bias, but you can milk a thing or 2 from there. wink.gif
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YES i totally agree that its dumb if hes spending an additional 500 for that extra 2 frets...
im just trying to point out that theres nothing bad about having a 24 fret guitar... no... ppl dont get 24 fret guitars so that they can tunjuk or whatever... unless you guys have met a fair number of those ppl to back up your statement please dont give any more crap

davidlow> like blacktrix said... its your guitar.... you cash... your decision. There are very very few songs that need the 24th fret... the only one i can think of now is eugenes trick bag...
dont choose your guitar base on the number of frets on the neck...
the wood, pups, set up, playability is what you should be focusing on...


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yeah i also meant that.. the same like blacktrix said, spending more just for d 2 extra frets while u can get a decent standard 22 fret one.
haha evo.com, sorry for talking crap like u said, just thought it would strengthen the claim.. apologies.


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Well for me, right now I'm in the Hammet-Solo mode, So my guitar has 24, and I've used it ALOT of times,

But if you're the rhythm or usual solo creator, 22 is more than enough for you to explore.
You're not gonna play the D Major Scale on the 20-24th , aren't you?

So, the extra 500 isn't worth it IMO.
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nerd> well its the 21st century now... cant just get away with calling someone a witch... gotta be able to back up your statements
no worries... its cool
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Dude... Wanna ask you guys..... How about this model

Ibanez RG320FM...

and also

Ibanezx GRG 270...

GRG270 Music Hut Sdn. Bhd. offer me RM1100 like that with Floyd Rose Tremolo also included 1 wor....

Just wanna hear more from you guys
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Again, do you REALLY need the whammy bar?
If you're playing alot of Kirk Hammet/Metallica stuff or the Vai's or the Satch's stuff, then you might want to consider getting a good tremolo bar like the floyd rose system. Because with a cheap system, whenever you use it, you start out in Cleveland and end up in F**kin Jersey! With the Floyd, you stay in the same goddamned Zip code no matter what.

Bonus points to the one who knows where that quote comes from!


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the ibanez 320fm would be better....
1st it has the edge pro 2 which is far better than the fat10 bridge.. although still far inferior compare to the original floyd or the edge
other than the extra flame maple top everything else is pretty much the same i think...
if you can try to look for the RG321MH....
mahogany body.... fixed bridge.... 24 frets... powersound pups
if ure looking for a fixed bridge guitar think is the one i would recommend...
should be almost the same price as the 320FM
> RM1100
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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Oct 6 2005, 04:38 PM)
Bonus points to the one who knows where that quote comes from!
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Either Zakk or Dimebaglar... otherwise EVH, I pretty sure it's from that GW issue. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(evo.com @ Oct 6 2005, 04:57 PM)
the ibanez 320fm would be better....
1st it has the edge pro 2 which is far better than the fat10 bridge.. although still far inferior compare to the original floyd or the edge
other than the extra flame maple top everything else is pretty much the same i think...
if you can try to look for the RG321MH....
mahogany body.... fixed bridge.... 24 frets... powersound pups
if ure looking for a fixed bridge guitar think is the one i would recommend...
should be almost the same price as the 320FM
> RM1100
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the RG320FM is around how much????
RG321FM ... anyone knows the price ???? smile.gif

and do u think the GRG270 @ RM1100 is a good guitar at its price range???
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I really don't know Ibanez guitars...... but ask me anything about Gibson style guitars? I'll answer them the next minute!!!!!

I do know, that if you're gonna get a whammy bar, get one with a floyd rose system.
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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Oct 6 2005, 09:21 PM)
I really don't know Ibanez guitars...... but ask me anything about Gibson style guitars? I'll answer them the next minute!!!!!

I do know, that if you're gonna get a whammy bar, get one with a floyd rose system.
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Oh, I think that article appeared on Total Guitar too. I definitely have that issue. tongue.gif
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davidlow> its ibanez own floating tremelo system....
not a floyd.... exactly the same concept but diff manufacturer
the edge 2 is alright.... much better than the fat10
you should just go to the guitar store and ask the salesperson to bring out all the guitars within your budget... lets say 1000-1700
then ask the fella to let you use the acoustic room or whatever and tell him to leave you alone...
cover up the price tags and play each guitar... see which one suits you...
oh yea and its important to p-lay the guitar along with the ampyou're plannign to purchase....
it'll bemuch better if you could bring someone with experience to help you make your purchase.... dont bring friends who'll go like "OMGZZZ LP OWNSS ALLL GUITAR.... SLASH USES IT!!!!" or "IBANEZ SURE GOOD WAN!!!"

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QUOTE(evo.com @ Oct 7 2005, 04:14 PM)

then ask the fella to let you use the acoustic room or whatever and tell him to leave you alone...

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but Bentley there stated Strictly No Testing...
Emmmm They will let us try? Or only Bentley does not allow testing but other does?
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they'll let you test wan la....
any slight interest in purchasing a guitar they'll let you test any guitar...
nv buy a guitar without testing it in the 1st place
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QUOTE(evo.com @ Oct 7 2005, 05:57 PM)
they'll let you test wan la....
any slight interest in purchasing a guitar they'll let you test any guitar...
nv buy a guitar without testing it in the 1st place
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By the way, anyone has been to Music Hut to purchase any guitar before or not?
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A Floyd Rose locking-trem is incredibly fun to use, but also very hard to maintain. Intonation problems, bridge alignment, tuning...oh dear. (Don't even ask about drop-D or non-standard tuning.) It's reliable, but once something goes wrong, you're in for a world of pain. My first guitar had a Floyd Rose bridge, and my early experiences with it weren't fun. sad.gif

Do some research before you get one. It depends on what kind of music you want to play. Try www.jemsite.com and www.ibanezrules.com and look at the tech sections so see what kind of work a Floyd Rose bridge would need.

And always, ALWAYS test a guitar before buying. Not just the sound or the fretboard feel - strap it on, jump around. It should feel comfortable in every way. Don't buy it after testing it on your lap only to find that you don't like the headstock dip when you're standing up at home.
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Thanks for the info....

By the way, anyone has had any 2nd hand AMP wanna let go (sell away)??? I am looking for 1.. kinda urgent...
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Any amp to recommend me? My budget is around RM600-RM800.. Preferably a 25watt++ amp
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I suggest you get one with a few built in effects, so you can experiment. I recommend the Line 6 Spider II 15. It's a bit smaller than what you're looking for (15W) but it sounds okay (if a little harshly digital) and with four channels and something like six built-in effects, it'll last you for a while. CK Music sells them for under RM800, I think, so it's affordable, too.

You could also try a Roland Cube.
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Bring in the Valvetronix army! tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

I would pick the Roland Cube 30 over the Spider II any day. The Vox AD30VT is also worth considering. Strictly IMO so give these amps a test and judge.

Otherwise you can save up some more and get the 15-watt Laney LC15 tube-amp combo instead, then applying pedals to shape your sound.
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Roland amp is really nice too
But I am not sure about the price.. anyone can confirms the price

btw, can i ask about.... what do you guys think of this Laney amp..
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Bring in the Valvetronix army! tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif

I would pick the Roland Cube 30 over the Spider II any day. The Vox AD30VT is also worth considering. Strictly IMO so give these amps a test and judge.

Otherwise you can save up some more and get the 15-watt Laney LC15 tube-amp combo instead, then applying pedals to shape your sound.
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Good point. I don't know why I forgot the Vox Valvetronix series, especially since I own the AD50VT. doh.gif

AD30VT is a little over-budget, actually, retailing for around RM900, but it's pretty good for a smaller amp. The 15-watt version exists, too.
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cube and voxAD series
imo theyr the best practice amps available on the market atm
vox is slightly better because its got all the amp modelling and stuff
cube is a little raw... good cleans decent dist.... all up to you to unleash its potential tongue.gif tongue.gif
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HRCs arent really good.. its sounds thin and the dist is very plain
save up for a valveking or a classic 30 if you planning to go tube smile.gif

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15W is enough to practise in a room, enough headroom in clean to play alone, and with overdrive, you can even play along with fellow singer and buddy bassist... but if you intend to play with a bloody drummer or in a bigger/noisier room, then you'll need something with more watts.

Obviously, paying 800rm for a 15W gives you a good sound, whereas paying that price for a 30W or 50W amp gives you more power, but logically less 'quality'. I've seen some cheap amp brands around, such as Kustom or Red-something. Never tried them though...
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anyone tried/knows/touched the new peavey valveking? i hv the hots for it...its like..400usd..and all tube combo.. very cool indeed.

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my local guitar shop is going to bring a few in next month before christmas thumbup.gif

heard nothing but good re on it... hopefully its better than the classic...
almost the same price
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QUOTE(Reload @ Oct 15 2005, 01:12 AM)
Good point. I don't know why I forgot the Vox Valvetronix series, especially since I own the AD50VT.  doh.gif

AD30VT is a little over-budget, actually, retailing for around RM900, but it's pretty good for a smaller amp. The 15-watt version exists, too.
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how much u bought ur ad50 for?
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my local guitar shop is going to bring a few in next month before christmas thumbup.gif

heard nothing but good re on it... hopefully its better than the classic...
almost the same price
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oh really? what shop izzit?got c-30s too?how much retailing here...?
i guess the vking shld br cheaper than the classics.
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how much u bought ur ad50 for?
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AD50 was for RM1200. I was planning to buy the AD30, but the difference in sound quality was so huge, that when my dad heard it he gave me the extra money right away. biggrin.gif

Of course, for those who don't have such generous fathers, the AD30 is still a pretty good amp.

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eyy guys this year end im getting an epiphone LP and i have some extra bucks to get a stompbox or amp.. my friend lending me his boss mt and ds.. what other stompbox should i get? i like blues and pop rock kinda stuff.. and for my amp... my budget around 700.. wat should i get?

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For some some bluesey overdrive, try the Ibanez Tube Screamer TS-9 or the Boss Super Overdrive SD-1.

SD-1 is a third of the price of the TS-9, and is slightly edgier. I think Bentley has both for sale, so you can try them side by side there.
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and how much is both of them?
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SD1's about RM170 while the TS9 is around RM400+. If you want a TS-style pedal, I suggest you try out the Digitech Bad Monkey, it should be around RM150++. I doubt it's available in Malaysia but it shouldn't be a problem to get it in your place. wink.gif

Of course, do try out the Boss Blues Driver BD-2 and the Marshall Bluesbreaker too, who knows you might like them better than the rest.

Always keep in mind that these pedals sound best on tube amps. So if you're unsure how you amp would take them, borrow them beforehand. wink.gif
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QUOTE(Reload @ Oct 16 2005, 01:19 AM)
AD50 was for RM1200. I was planning to buy the AD30, but the difference in sound quality was so huge, that when my dad heard it he gave me the extra money right away. biggrin.gif

Of course, for those who don't have such generous fathers, the AD30 is still a pretty good amp.
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where did u get it??
planning to get a ad50 after SPM
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Oct 17 2005, 01:07 PM)
SD1's about RM170 while the TS9 is around RM400+. If you want a TS-style pedal, I suggest you try out the Digitech Bad Monkey, it should be around RM150++. I doubt it's available in Malaysia but it shouldn't be a problem to get it in your place. wink.gif

Of course, do try out the Boss Blues Driver BD-2 and the Marshall Bluesbreaker too, who knows you might like them better than the rest.

Always keep in mind that these pedals sound best on tube amps. So if you're unsure how you amp would take them, borrow them beforehand. wink.gif
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QUOTE(sean392 @ Oct 17 2005, 02:51 PM)
where did u get it??
planning to get a ad50 after SPM
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i think vox ad series can be found at ck music.
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well.... if can change the speakers i dun mind..... but then again.... the speakers aint cheap rite?
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what is the price for Roland cube-30......intrested........

finding an amp under RM1000......
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It's around 900 bux ^

Go get it! It's GRRRRRRRRRRREAT!
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i think compared to the cube 30.. d vox ad30vt is better..
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erm.......what's the price for vox ad30vt.......someone recommend me take vox ad30vt b4 too......
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about the same as the roland cube 30 ur eying. wink.gif
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any amps cheaper than that? just practise amp..
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anyway.....a good amp is important than a good guitar....no matter how good r ur guitar.....when it match with a bad amp.....it sounds bad too.....i think roland cube 30 and vox ad30vt is the best choice within the budget of RM1000
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any cheaper ones? the vox ad15vt/roland cube 15. price about rm450. ask evo.com for a mini review of the cube 15.
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i just bought myself squier tele custom II, roland cube 15, boss superchorus and a gig bag for not more than RM1500. hermm... but the amp is not very satisfying. if can get 20-30W then it would be much better.

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QUOTE(kardock @ Oct 26 2005, 03:21 AM)
i just bought myself squier tele custom II, roland cube 15, boss superchorus and a gig bag for not more than RM1500. hermm... but the amp is not very satisfying. if can get 20-30W then it would be much better.
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Actually I would pick the Cube30 over 15 any day. The 15 sounds a little muffled, as if someone had put a blanket to cover the amp. The 30 is much more open and less muddy. Nonetheless the Cube 15 is a great practice amp for the money! Hope you enjoyed your new gear so far! Have fun and hope to hear some stuff from you soon! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(evo.com @ Jul 23 2005, 11:18 PM)
are you sure bout the price of the MIA strat?
the last time i was at bentley they tried to sell me a lefthanded MIA strat for 4k without discount
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I think it's because you went to Bentley as they are famous for thier "price". I went to Mighty Music at SS2 ... it's around Rm22xx, MIA Strat. Some other shops sells cheaper ... i dunno why, well it's good for us.

Aslo depends what colour you're getting .... as i said above, Sunburst need to add $50USD to $150USD.
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TheWhacker,
went to look for mighty music today but unable to locate it. where exactly this mighty music located? is it very much near to SS2's mahogany?
do they closed on sundays and public holidays?

went to bently later after that and they offered me RM2990 for an MIA strat. sweat.gif
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between the cube and AD30...c'mon la guys..smile.gif theres a tube in the AD30. why think summore? haha..tube in the power section summore..gives it more warmth and picking dynamics. and ur not lacking any models in the ad30. i own one and i wont exchange it for any amp around that price. effects wise, u got double the effects of the cube 30. 11 amp models. how many has the cube? the main thing is..the 12AX7 at the power section. that itself kicks ass. smile.gif
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^ Nick..how does it handle metal?
Heavy..real heavy ones
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between the cube and AD30...c'mon la guys..smile.gif theres a tube in the AD30. why think summore? haha..tube in the power section summore..gives it more warmth and picking dynamics. and ur not lacking any models in the ad30. i own one and i wont exchange it for any amp around that price. effects wise, u got double the effects of the cube 30. 11 amp models. how many has the cube? the main thing is..the 12AX7 at the power section. that itself kicks ass. smile.gif
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yes there is tube in the AD30.... but the tube is at the preamp section... not the poweramp. You wont get that sought after tube overdrive unfortunately
the AD30 is better in terms of versatality.... but by playing with the cube you get a more "raw" feel....
i do agree that the AD30 is better mainly because its got more amp models but i guess it all comes down to personal preference....

if you buy something and later feel unsatisfied with it that only means that you made the ultimate gear hunting mistake of not testing it properly....
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yes dear evo. smile.gif ur right in testing and all. but narrowed down to these 2 choices..u knw what to do.

and dear evo again, the tube is in the power amp section. smile.gif not the preamp. like most ppl think, and like most hybrids go, (marshall AVT, the new laney tubefusion or sth) .

with the tube in the power amp(where it is needed the most) u get that crunching saturation u need. the preamp is entirely digital. comin thru the power section is totally analogue. hold on..lemme search up the manual...


direct from the manual :

The AD15VT, AD30VT and AD50VT use Valve Reactor technology, and feature a
power amp circuit containing a 12AX7 (ECC83) dual triode valve ("vacuum tube") that
would normally be used in a preamp. This allows the amp to produce the true sound
and feel of a bona fide all valve (tube) amp.


theres another whole lot on how the whole preamp>poweramp circuit works in this baby. but i dont wanna paste here la, spam only. unless u guys wanna know. its in the manual anyways. smile.gif
cheers evo. smile.gif

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^ Nick..how does it handle metal?
Heavy..real heavy ones
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if that doesnt give u enough gain..pedal in front wld suit u. but i think the gains on thsi amp are good alraedy. smile.gif

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hmm i always thought the AD series have the tube in the preamp section...lol

i think the main rule when it comes to buying gear is to try it and make the decision on your own..... unless of course you;re buying online

like i said before... its all personal preference.... ive tried the cube and the ad alot of times.... the cube30 and the ad30.... and i personally own a cube 15
the cube gives a "raw" sound....

lots of ppl rave over both of these amps.... and i don't really see why is there an "obvious" choice here.

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yes ur right evo. its all down to personal prefs. i myslef am raving about my own amp. so u can see the biasness. well, we're all here to help i guess..smile.gif
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since i have to keep my es-175 in really 'safe keeping'...i'm thinking to get epiphone player pack. the sg special one maybe. anyone know how much is it cost in malaysia/singapore and is it recommendable?
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Epi Sg special....they're not the best out there based on reviews. Never tried it though.

now are there any cheap sale going on for amps? i've been looking for one for ages.... sad.gif
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1)wats d differents between certain types of wood ?
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First you have to state the music you're interested in. Also, are you a beginner?
1) Different wood has different tone, so it all boils down to preference. For a strat-type guitar, alder is the common choice although some would prefer swamp-ash (more sustain but much heavier than alder). For Gibson-type of guitars, it's usually mahogany although some Epis are made with alder body.
2) For entry-level guitars, I would go for Korean/China/Indon-made Epiphone, Squier, LTD, Yamaha or even SX. As for beginner amps, Line 6, Roland, Vox & Fender's entry-level amps should give you the tone you want.
3) Your fingers determines how good the music your instrument produces. wink.gif
4) A good guitar, imo, is a guitar that's well-built, with decent electronics & pickups, have a good feel and reasonably priced.

Hope that helps. thumbup.gif
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superdav > above all, define which music you like to listen to, and which music you'd like to play. Which band in particular do you have in mind ? Don't be shy !
Then we'll try to get you a setup with a "similar" sound to those guys wink.gif

The main thing is : there are certain families of guitars that will ease your playing toward a certain style, so first we have to narrow down all the specs and models you should be looking for.
you can then go in a shop, make your own choice and grab whatever your wallet allows you to laugh.gif It is very important you try the guitar and the amp, because you might feel superbly comfortable with a certain models (the opposite is true also)

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a good guitar is a guitar that serves you well.... play it before you buy it...
some people prefer thick necks, some prefer thin ones....
some prefer hard tails, some prefer floating trems

hardware doesnt really matter imo.... you cn always change that afterwards...

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Oh...sorry..the music i would like to play is like solo songs from santana & rock songs . So i know thats no such guitar that can do both at the same time but i was wondering is there a guitar that is in between this?
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Oh...sorry..the music i would like to play is like solo songs from santana & rock songs . So i know thats no such guitar that can do both at the same time but i was wondering is there a guitar that is in between this?
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santana rocks !
unfortunately i suppose your talking about recent santana recordings ? (supernatural and so on ... ?)
and not about his hottest latin jazz-rock 70's era sad.gif

so anyway, you might go for one of those guitars with HUMBUCKERS (magnetic pick-ups with TWO coils), instead of the guitars with SINGLE coil pick-ups.

So those models might fit you:
- yamaha aes : http://www.yamaha.com/guitars/aes/0,,CTID%253D600002,00.html
- ltd ec serie (or f / m / as series... all good !) : http://www.espguitars.com/guitars_ec.htm
- epiphone les paul (or you prefer g-400 ?) : http://www.epiphone.com/default.asp?Produc...&CollectionID=6
- ibanez RG serie : http://www.ibanez.co.jp/world/products/eg/...M_AM_a_e_u.html
- SX GG / Poison / ... serie (don't be afraid by the picture !) : http://www.sxguitar.com/gg_series.htm
- samick avion : http://www.samickguitar.com/electricportal_avion.html
- slammer (by Hamer) if you find them... (in CK music)
- shecter C or S serie : http://www.schecterguitars.com/menu_guitars.asp?guitartype=1

you can find all of those brands in or around KL (refer to the thread dedicated on where to find the right shops here: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=162736 , 1st post)

choose by feel and by look, don't bother too much about specs. All those are reliable brands (even though i'm not so confident about SX, but i never tried them ! ) which will give you a good guitar to begin with.

For the amp, buy one in the store you tried the guitar. You can find cheap dirty "no brand" 15 Watts (like Drive, Red-something or stuff like this), and by taking a package you might end up with a really good overall price. If you want a quality small amp (and are willing to go to a diffferent shop and pay more), you can't go wrong with the entry-level amp of those brands:

Roland (Cube 15)
Vox (AD15VT)
Hugh&Kettner (Blues Edition 15)

However I do think that a cheap 15W will do the job, until you get more quids to buy a bigger one (30w or 50w).
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Wow... I guess Pix's post should be more than enough to guide you now. thumbup.gif

The Roland Cube 15 and VoxAD15VT is priced at (approx.) RM450, that leaves you about RM1550 left for the guitar. I suggest you try out the Yamaha AES620 at Combo Mix, it looks very good & should sound even better. thumbup.gif

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i say get an AD30 or a cube 30
forget the 15w ones...
then spend 1k on ure guitar.... its the amp taht really matters....
good amp, good tone thumbup.gif
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led zep > thx for giving the prices... i couldn't be sure that those hi-end 15W would fit in the budget. and you must wonder how come i've so much time to spare while being in tahiti laugh.gif actually i went surfing on the ocean this morning (or rather... tried to surf ! i just started), i'm quite exhausted to do anything else for today. hehehe

evo.com > mmm... it's mostly a matter of price unfortunately... yet i used to find 15W plenty enough for bedroom-solo usage !
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man...now im so confused...hahaha

wats d prices around for d stated guitars?

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Pix, next time when I need help on gears, please go surfing. tongue.gif Must have been fun anyway, how's the weather over there?

I second evo.com's suggestion on getting the 30. I've compared the Cube 15 and 30 (Almost side-by-side) and imo the 30's far superior to the 15. The sound's much more 'open' and not to forget has more amp models. The Plexi and JC models sounded very good, especially the JC, add a light touch of chorus and instant Larry Carlton. thumbup.gif Haven't compared it to the AD30VT tho.
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superdav007, I'm not too sure but here's a rough estimation of prices
Yamaha AES820 - RM1800++ (Combo Mix)
Yamaha AES620 - RM2200++++ (Sold at Combo Mix KL & Euphony, Ikano's Power Center)
Epiphone Les Paul Standard - RM2200+ (At Rhapsody Mid Valley, you could get a free hard case)
Epiphone Les Paul Goldtop (With P90 Pickups) - RM2300+ (Also at Rhapsody MV, you'ill get a free case)
SX Les Paul - Less than RM1000 I would assume?

Not really sure about the rest. But you can check the prices at http://www.wwbw.com for rough estimation.

As for amps :
Vox AD15VT & Roland Cube 15 - RM450
Vox AD30VT & Roland Cube 30 - RM900+
CK Music is the official distributor of Vox products while you could get the Roland at Rhapsody or The Guitar Store.
Some demo clips for you : thumbup.gif
http://www.voxamps.co.uk/products/valvetro...d15vtad30vt.htm
http://www.roland.com/products/en/CUBE-30/demos.html
http://www.dolphinstreet.com/video_clips (Video clips of Vox AD50VT)

If you're still confused, feel free to ask some questions! thumbup.gif

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yea for the cube 15 and 30 theres a huge difference....
volumewise they're prettty much the same but you get much more stuff on the cube 30 and the dist is much better....
you can go up to 5-6 without the speakers breaking on you

same goes for the ad15.... sounds thin and ermm.... dunno how to describe... the kind of sound you get when u turn ure tone knob down
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get the new 2005 yamaha guitars.... they're great
try to save a little more and get those....
try them and you'll know how good they are
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wat so special abt les paul's? compared to the others?
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QUOTE(evo.com @ Nov 27 2005, 03:18 PM)
yea for the cube 15 and 30 theres a huge difference....
volumewise they're prettty much the same but you get much more stuff on the cube 30 and the dist is much better....
you can go up to 5-6 without the speakers breaking on you
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wat so special abt les paul's? compared to the others?
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Well firstly it's because it was Gibson's first mass-produced solid-body electric guitar. It's famous for its fat tone and sweet sustain. The endless list of LP players include Jimmy Page, Slash, The Darkness, Gary Moore, Zakk Wylde etc...
Of course, you might like it, you might not.
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My friend has a Gordin ...wat can u say abt this brand? & how does the type of wood affect d sound?
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Epiphone Les Paul Goldtop (With P90 Pickups) - RM2300+ (Also at Rhapsody MV, you'ill get a free case)


wats P90 pickups?


guitars with HUMBUCKERS (magnetic pick-ups with TWO coils), instead of the guitars with SINGLE coil pick-ups.


wats d diff between single or dual pickups?

ok...wats can u tell me abt ? suitable for wat type if music.

1: Fender Stratocasters
2:les paul
3:Ibanez
4:Yamaha
5:ltd
6:esp


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single coils have less output and sound 'thinner' also they tend to create alot of unwanted noise... especially on dist

humbuckers eliminate the noise and have a fatter fuller tone..
go try one and you know what im talking about
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superdav007, the wood affects the sound in a very subtle way. Basically, the heavier the wood, the darker the tone.
check this site: http://www.warmoth.com/guitar/options/options_bodywoods.cfm
you'll understand everything.

GODIN is a very good brand, but i'm afraid it's out of your budget... do they have cheap guitar ? i'm not so sure. Go to "guitar collection" and try them out.

freaklick > weather = m'sia... hot and sunny and tropical rains and humid. but the sea is just 10min. away, so it's a whole different spirit !
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superdav007, you'll have to learn by yourself you know wink.gif we can't answer ALL the questions that cross your mind... surf on the web, google and warmoth... you should learn enough.
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ok...LP classic looks good.. havent tested it yet. but any comment on this guitar? Gordin cost ard 1600+ according to my friend.
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it's not gordin, it's GODIN.
wihch model does your friend have ?
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Godin SD series.. any comment?
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http://www.godinguitars.com/godinsdp.htm

looks like a fender strat'. you tried it, didn't you ? how did YOU find it ? you liked the sound ? because it is certainly a total opposite to all the guitars we just proposed to you above.
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HA HA ! You see, you didn't read anything in this forum before asking your question.
Please have a look to all our pinned topics before asking more questions... thanks wink.gif
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i read some..haha
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about the amp......i think that u can't go wrong with the cube-15 and 30....they are really give a bang for ur bucks.....so far...i'm very impressed with my amp(cube-30)....the amp sounds better than wht i think b4 i buy it...it sounds good even it match with my lousy guitar...maybe evo.com can give u much imformation bout the amp coz he's also a cube user here.....it's heavy for me....

besides...u've to get some accessories too....such as....
1.tuner
2.jack wire
3.string

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besides...u've to get some accessories too....such as....
1.tuner
2.jack wire
3.string


accesories? ive neva thought of that..wat they do?
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the tuner is to let u know that wherther u're on the right tone or not(1st to 6th string only)my tuner is the normal one....RM70+
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QUOTE(superdav007 @ Nov 27 2005, 05:52 PM)
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One more one liners post and enjoy 2 weeks ban

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hi guyz, im new here and hope you can help me out with this;

im looking for an acoustic amp..... basically what i need is a mic jack and 1 input for the guitar. can anyone recommend me anything....
price range = as cheap as possible haha coz i am not playing seriously, just for fun and maybe upgrading later when im good enough. thanks
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Stop Spamming.

One more one liners post and enjoy 2 weeks ban

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if u want to know wats lp, strat, tele etc go there

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=169463&st=0

The Guitar Dictionary, What's a Strat ? LP ? Describe 'Em All

some people are too lazy to google or read the threads

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Don't get us wrong man...... we ARE trying to help you out....
It's just that..... if you want help, you have to ask the right questions.

Alot of things that you asked is already answered on the boards... use the search feature on the forums..... you never know what you're gonna get.

However, if you structure your question WELL ENOUGH (and not one liners), we might answer your questions even if it's already answered somewhere else. I know..... it's hard to troll the forums, but at least try man.....

In other words, help us help you.
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QUOTE(Namqul @ Nov 28 2005, 12:40 AM)
hi guyz, im new here and hope you can help me out with this;

im looking for an acoustic amp..... basically what i need is a mic jack and 1 input for the guitar. can anyone recommend me anything....
price range = as cheap as possible haha coz i am not playing seriously, just for fun and maybe upgrading later when im good enough. thanks
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How about the Kustom acoustic amp? I've never tried one before but it might fall under your budget.

However if you want the best, consider AER. tongue.gif
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OK guys ive selected my chosen guitars. I just need u guys to tell me this guitars are suitable for wat genre or wat songs. wats d pros & cons & state d prices if u can. thx a lot. I wanna play songs like solo's from santana & also rock music from linkin park.

GUITAR

1)Les Paul 56 Goldtop
2)Les Paul Classic or classic plus
4)Les paul Standard or standard plus (wats d diff anyway?)
5)Fender Stratocaster
6)Gibson SD series
7)Ibanez are good for rock i heard but are they good for Solo tunes & reasonable priced?
8)Schecter's

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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Nov 28 2005, 02:15 PM)
How about the Kustom acoustic amp? I've never tried one before but it might fall under your budget.

However if you want the best, consider AER. tongue.gif
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ive seen the kustom amp but havent tried it yet..... coz im trying to look for the cheapest place to buy one.. any suggestion?

or is there any other brand which might cost less? ibanez also have one. I think its called trabodour or something. Not that sure but the smallest is 65W i think. Im looking for smaller one and if possible, 15w would be enough.

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superdav... a lespaul costs about 7000 to 9000 RM.
I have already listed all the lespaul alikes (within your budget) in the previous page, namely the Yamaha AES, Epiphone Les Paul, LTD...

Ibanez RG is good for modern solo and rythm, you can get one without hesitation.
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QUOTE(Namqul @ Nov 29 2005, 12:45 AM)
ive seen the kustom amp but havent tried it yet..... coz im trying to look for the cheapest place to buy one.. any suggestion?

or is there any other brand which might cost less? ibanez also have one. I think its called trabodour or something. Not that sure but the smallest is 65W i think. Im looking for smaller one and if possible, 15w would be enough.
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I'm not too sure about acoustic amps, really sorry, can't help much. How about trying some mic modellers like the recently-released Behringer or the Yamaha Magicstomp Acoustic???

What acoustic are using anyway??? With piezo pickup?
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15W for acoustic is not enough, you won't hear the amp (in clean channel).
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haha but as i said earlier, im in an entry level. I bought this acoustic with pickup. I think its J.D by marvell. Its an australian company. The sound is not that good coz the 5th strings has lower volume than others when i plugged it in. Haha thats what you get for buying cheap guitar. It cost me RM280, but for its look its worth it. and thats the main reason why i dont need a very good amp. coz i need to match it with my cheap guitar. So... any suggestions?

@led_zep_freak - any ideas how much will those amps cost me?
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the problem is either the bridge saddle or the nut
even with an amp you;r 5th string will still have a lower volume than the rest
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guys, how's Behringer guitar equipments?

i saw all in one packages

Behringer - RM 699
Ibanez - RM 790

Ibanez has nicer guitar, 2 pickup types. but the Behringer has much better amp with more features to play with.

i'm thinking of getting that Behringer pack.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 30 2005, 09:36 AM)
guys, how's Behringer guitar equipments?

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I know, i know !!!
they're cheaper !!

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Behringer - RM 699
Ibanez - RM 790


you see, i told you.

but someone once said here that the behringer amplifier might look good on paper, but is pure crap. anyway, as i always said : go for a nice guitar and don't bother about a good 15W amp. Because it just doesn't exist ! Buy anyone of them, and change it in 1 or 2 years.
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the problem is either the bridge saddle or the nut
even with an amp you;r 5th string will still have a lower volume than the rest
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thats is the main reason why i am looking for the cheapest amp. anyway, do you know how to fix it? or where and the range for the cost of fixing?
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well bring it to the guitar shops at kl and see how much they'r charging
try to check the bridge and the nut for yourself..... i can guarantee its either the nut or the bridge thats sucking away the sustain and the volume

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QUOTE(superdav007 @ Nov 28 2005, 10:23 PM)
OK guys ive selected my chosen  guitars. I just need u guys to tell me this guitars are suitable for wat genre or wat songs. wats d pros & cons & state d prices if u can. thx a lot. I wanna play songs like solo's from santana & also rock music from linkin park.

GUITAR

1)Les Paul 56 Goldtop
2)Les Paul Classic or classic plus
4)Les paul Standard or standard plus (wats d diff anyway?)
5)Fender Stratocaster
6)Gibson SD series
7)Ibanez are good for rock i heard but are they good for Solo tunes & reasonable priced?
8)Schecter's
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Your chosen guitars cover everything across the board. It's almost as if you just laid down a few random brands! tongue.gif Maybe you should narrow it down to two or three first. Think about things like price and availability. Offhand, though I'd say your Santana and Linkin Park inclinations lean towards a humbucker-humbucker guitar, so the Strat's going to go. Of course, Santana has a warm, mellow, vintage overdrive sound and Linkin Park is a heavy-distortion contemporary nu-metal... blink.gif

But seriously? If you're just starting out (and with these questions, you are) and have the cash to spare, buy a cheapish guitar that you like the feel of, to hell with the sound. When you're better, change the pickups or something. And don't forget a decent amp. You'll probably change your mind about what you like while you're playing, anyway, or at least your experience will let you make a more informed choice.


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QUOTE(Pix @ Nov 30 2005, 09:46 AM)
anyway, as i always said : go for a nice guitar and don't bother about a good 15W amp. Because it just doesn't exist ! Buy anyone of them, and change it in 1 or 2 years.
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Got to agree with this...u want a nice small amp there's not much choice other than a Roland Cube. But then, that also cost some dough. laugh.gif

Nice guitar/bass is the way to go coz u sling ur guitar/bass everywhere, not your amp unless you memang want the exact tone you've been creating on your amp and can't tolerate house amps laugh.gif

Another advice for starters (like really just started, not the one that alrdy expert on kapok looking for his first electric lady) that have extra money, don't go buy the most expensive unit that you see. Because you can never be too sure how long you gonna play. I encounter lotsa cases where after bought let's say a nice Fender MIA Strat, after few months stopped alrdy. First, that's farking wasted and 2nd, there's other guitarist that deserve that more than u but too bad, u are more fortunate than them. World kinda unfair...dun make it much more unfair laugh.gif notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Pix @ Nov 30 2005, 09:46 AM)
I know, i know !!!
they're cheaper !!
you see, i told you.


for someone who knows more than me when it comes to guitar stuff and all - i would appreciate it if your post contains something that's not already answered by my post, perhaps a more constructive post. it's bleeding dead obvious that the BEHRINGER is cheaper.

my question was "guys, how's Behringer guitar equipments?" as in referring to Behringer's range of guitar related goods - how are they? as in quality wise in their built and reliability, and how's the sound reception / output blablablabla whatever you can think of.

==== scroll down for the links to the 2 packages i'm referring to ====

QUOTE(Pix @ Nov 30 2005, 09:46 AM)
anyway, as i always said : go for a nice guitar and don't bother about a good 15W amp. Because it just doesn't exist ! Buy anyone of them, and change it in 1 or 2 years.


i've taken a look at both packages, the Ibanez guitar is clearly nicer in overall build but the amp is not as fun as the Behringer.

i was thinking, since i'm playing both guitars the same way - why not go for the amp with more features instead as i'm not thinking to change those stuff within the next many years to come.

maybe there is a reason why i should get a better guitar instead of amp. it's just that i don't see the reason yet and need you guys to point out. thanks in advance.

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anyway, here's the 2 packages i'm referring to
the IBANEZ package
http://www.music123.com/Ibanez-Jumpstart-J...ge-i67111.music (btw the guitar that the shop selling to me is metallic red in color)

the BEHRINGER package
http://www.activemusician.com/store/produc...nav=sh-bs&sn=10

which one do you guys think is better? extra RM 100 is not a problem for me, i just want to know which one is a better choice, and why?. (please try to answer here before i start a new thread on this. thanks)



QUOTE(chapree @ Dec 1 2005, 02:49 AM)
Got to agree with this...u want a nice small amp there's not much choice other than a Roland Cube. But then, that also cost some dough.  laugh.gif


roland cube, costly la.

QUOTE(chapree @ Dec 1 2005, 02:49 AM)
Another advice for starters (like really just started, not the one that alrdy expert on kapok looking for his first electric lady) that have extra money, don't go buy the most expensive unit that you see. Because you can never be too sure how long you gonna play. I encounter lotsa cases where after bought let's say a nice Fender MIA Strat, after few months stopped alrdy. First, that's farking wasted and 2nd, there's other guitarist that deserve that more than u but too bad, u are more fortunate than them. World kinda unfair...dun make it much more unfair  laugh.gif  notworthy.gif


yes. like my friend. RM 1.5k+ for a classical guitar + case, went to a few lessons. now stop playing. skill wise not even half of mine, guitar + case also 5x the cost of mine. tongue.gif

EDITED : sorry if i sounded mean earlier. tongue.gif haha.

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dear mod,

for someone who knows more than me when it comes to guitar stuff and all - i would appreciate  it if your post contains something that's not already answered by my post, perhaps a more constructive post. it's bleeding dead obvious that the BEHRINGER is cheaper.
Dear goldfries,
It is bleeding dead obvious that I was kidding, taking it on the light side. And my actual answer was just few lines below (even if it's not up to your expectations). Music is not sacred, your post is not a dealing with human tragedies, so why shall my answer be 100% informative and serious ?
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my question was "guys, how's Behringer guitar equipments?" as in referring to Behringer's range of guitar related goods - how are they? as in quality wise in their built and reliability, and how's the sound reception / output blablablabla whatever you can think of.
I said " (...) but someone once said here that the behringer amplifier might look good on paper, but is pure crap. (...)"
My answer about your question shows that I never personally dealt with a behringer amp. So I can't help you on this amp, just repeating what I thought I heard somewhere once. The only thing I could say was that small amps 15W are usually very unimpressive, whichever the brand.
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maybe there is a reason why i should get a better guitar instead of amp. it's just that i don't see the reason yet and need you guys to point out. thanks in advance.
sorry i didn't explain further : those explanations were implicit, since 15W amps are almost all similar. Those amps are physically limited, buying one or another won't change much in terms of sound. Even the extra features may not worth it : it's probable that only one feature will actually sound good to your ears.
But I never tried those 2 amps myself. I'm just giving you guide lines.
Another reason : a beginner's guitar is an investment you can keep for many years : it WILL sound good on a good amp. So your probable next upgrade will be a better amp. Not a better guitar. Do you understand ? The choice of the package you'll buy now should be done solely on the quality of the guitar.


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like my friend. RM 1.5k+ for a classical guitar + case, went to a few lessons. now stop playing. skill wise not even half of mine, guitar + case also 5x the cost of mine. tongue.gif
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are you telling us you have guitar skills ? so... you do know how to play guitar ? it must be so easy for you to go in those shops and try all the available starters'packages.
And you should try to buy your friend's equipment 2nd hand wink.gif
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goldfries... you didn't sound mean, no problem here.

furthermore, freedom of expression is allowed on this forum wink.gif
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Dear goldfries,
It is bleeding dead obvious that I was kidding, taking it on the light side. And my actual answer was just few lines below (even if it's not up to your expectations). Music is not sacred, your post is not a dealing with human tragedies, so why shall my answer be 100% informative and serious ?


hehe. wouldn't that be considered spam? biggrin.gif ok well nmind...... thanks.


QUOTE(Pix @ Dec 1 2005, 04:00 AM)
I said " (...) but someone once said here that the behringer amplifier might look good on paper, but is pure crap. (...)"
My answer about your question shows that I never personally dealt with a behringer amp. So I can't help you on this amp, just repeating what I thought I heard somewhere once. The only thing I could say was that small amps 15W are usually very unimpressive, whichever the brand.


ok thank you.


QUOTE(Pix @ Dec 1 2005, 04:00 AM)
sorry i didn't explain further : those explanations were implicit, since 15W amps are almost all similar. Those amps are physically limited, buying one or another won't change much in terms of sound. Even the extra features may not worth it : it's probable that only one feature will actually sound good to your ears.
But I never tried those 2 amps myself. I'm just giving you guide lines.
Another reason : a beginner's guitar is an investment you can keep for many years : it WILL sound good on a good amp. So your probable next upgrade will be a better amp. Not a better guitar. Do you understand ? The choice of the package you'll buy now should be done solely on the quality of the guitar.


ahh now that explains a lot. thanks. the Ibanez guitar does look and feel nicer.


QUOTE(Pix @ Dec 1 2005, 04:00 AM)
are you telling us you have guitar skills ? so... you do know how to play guitar ? it must be so easy for you to go in those shops and try all the available starters'packages.


erm actually i did try those things out (ok well i let the shop keeper do the test). i did observe both amps and guitar. i like the guitar for the Ibanez and the amp of the Behringer.

i can play, no doubt but my skill and experience in guitar world pales in comparison with you guys - all my SIFU!!!!! only the amp makes it more fun but your explanation above makes me re-evaluate the situation. thank you.


QUOTE(Pix @ Dec 1 2005, 04:00 AM)
And you should try to buy your friend's equipment 2nd hand wink.gif


i already have a classical, i don't wish to have another. biggrin.gif it's either accoustic or electric for the next purchase.

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anyway, i found something new on the Behringer pack

Behringer Guitar Pack Review
Purchase: I got it at a local music store for 150$.
Likes: It looks like a stratocaster and the amp can make a lot of effects. The price is also really good for beginers.
Dislikes: this guitar always get out of tone after five minutes and it isn't good grounded you can take electric show on it
Quality: The guitar is really good and solid and look like a stratocaster. the pickups and the elctronic is correct for the price
http://www.instrumentpro.com/blog/archives...r-guitar-packs/

point to ponder.

btw i just realize there were user comments on the Ibanez packages too
http://www.music123.com/Ibanez-Jumpstart-J...ge-i67111.music

smile.gif looks like i know what to get now. thanks Pix.


QUOTE(Pix @ Dec 1 2005, 04:20 AM)
goldfries... you didn't sound mean, no problem here.

furthermore, freedom of expression is allowed on this forum wink.gif
ahh. you didn't use EDIT tongue.gif btw glad you understood. i would really sound mean if i did not edit the earlier post. haha. nmind....... thanks for explaining the part on guitar vs amp. sheds some new light.

now - to plan my $$$$



btw i just found out the Ibanez came with tuner too, one user commented "Korg chromatic tuner is 10 times better." cool.......cos i already have that Korg Chromatic Tuner CA-30. tongue.gif

w000 can't wait to get that package.

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just one last thing :
the ibanez gives you a humbucker... if you don't know what it is, let's just say it provides you with a much better ability to reproduce those thicks and saturated guitars you hear in rock and metal (even those pat metheny's thick jazz lines).

ps: are you a mod hunter ? breath in, breath out, relax dude... i'm just trying to do my best here.
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please correct me if im wrong but....
i do believethat the amp is the main gear in your rig that will most influence your tone
go try for yourself...
no matter how good the guitar is... through a crappy amp it'll sound like shit
dont limit yourself to beginner packages...
you'll find taht with a few extra hundred you'll get a much better deal
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evo.com, i totally agree with you ! But IMO, most entry-level guitars are acceptable whereas entry-level amps are pretty bad (compared to bigger ones).
Since he's on a tight budget (< 800rm), better get an OK guitar, so he can keep it for longer and learn better. If he takes an OK amp, he has to stick with a poor untuneable thin-sounding guitar, from a "no-brand"... That can seriously alter one's willing to learn the instrument.
I agree, getting a Cube 30 with the same Ibanez RGX is a smarter initial investment. But how much does that cost ?
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QUOTE(Pix @ Dec 1 2005, 08:15 AM)
I agree, getting a Cube 30 with the same Ibanez RGX is a smarter initial investment. But how much does that cost ?
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Close to 2.5k - 3k? Roland Cube 30 is around 1k, and RGX definately 1k plus.

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Either that guys, or he could get a good guitar,
Plug it up to his pc.
And then when he wants to crank up..get...uh..Mesa Triple Recto drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif

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chapree, sure ? cuz the RGX (sorry, it's GRX actually laugh.gif ) package costs just 750RM...

HH7 > you're a nerd tongue.gif hehe... no actually that's a good idea, but unless you buy some good speakers, you'll have to play with headphones sad.gif

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QUOTE(Pix @ Dec 1 2005, 04:37 AM)
just one last thing :
the ibanez gives you a humbucker... if you don't know what it is, let's just say it provides you with a much better ability to reproduce those thicks and saturated guitars you hear in rock and metal (even those pat metheny's thick jazz lines).


yeah. that's the nice part about the Ibanez GRX.

QUOTE(Pix @ Dec 1 2005, 04:37 AM)
ps: are you a mod hunter ? breath in, breath out, relax dude... i'm just trying to do my best here.


buahaha. no. i mod other forums, so the habit stays. LOL. sorry......... btw i hunt big siggies more than anything else

QUOTE(Pix @ Dec 1 2005, 08:15 AM)
Since he's on a tight budget (< 800rm), better get an OK guitar, so he can keep it for longer and learn better.


it's hard when your life involves musical instruments + computers + games + fish hobby blablablablbal.

if i get the amp soon, i'll get to play with the Ibanez Roadstar (FR setup) that is currently at my place. tongue.gif

QUOTE(headhunter7 @ Dec 1 2005, 09:17 AM)
Either that guys, or he could get a good guitar,
Plug it up to his pc.
you know, that was the initial plan actually. get an electric and a cable and plug into the LINE-IN port. tongue.gif


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QUOTE(Pix @ Dec 1 2005, 09:25 AM)
chapree, sure ? cuz the RGX (sorry, it's GRX actually laugh.gif ) package costs just 750RM...

HH7 > you're a nerd tongue.gif hehe... no actually that's a good idea, but unless you buy some good speakers, you'll have to play with headphones sad.gif
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In pc or guitars?
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xD

But it's true..better get a good guitar than a starter guitar + starter amp eh?
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QUOTE(Pix @ Dec 1 2005, 09:25 AM)
chapree, sure ? cuz the RGX (sorry, it's GRX actually laugh.gif ) package costs just 750RM...
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Oh, GRX? Then it should be less then 2k together with Roland Cube smile.gif
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somebody is selling jap strat vintage white at RM1.7. what do you guys think?

pix,
you own one, right? so how's japan made fender compared to US made?
is it worth it?

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Nice price.. US fenders are more better afaik?
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QUOTE(xnobys @ Dec 2 2005, 09:26 PM)
somebody is selling jap strat vintage white at RM1.7. what do you guys think?

pix,
you own one, right? so how's japan made fender compared to US made?
is it worth it?

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DAMN! Very Jeff Beck and looks mint!!! Definitely worth it!

I think the main difference (other than where they are being made, of course) between MIJ and MIA guitars is the electronics. In terms of workmanship imo, MIJ ones are spot on. If this MIJ strat is in mint condition, I would pick it over a new Highway 1 any day!

Btw, you said vintage right? What year was it made in? 80s? Early 90s?

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hi guys,
i just got a used Gibson Les Paul Special, Epiphone for around RM 700
do u think its worth it?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

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xnobys / ledzepfreak is right, MIJ are real good guitars with a constant quality. You can't go wrong with it. Plus, yours look fabulous !! Electronic is ok, but you might need a pickup upgrade in few years (that's cool ! you don't have to stick with average us fender's pickups, you can go for cheaper and higher end ones !), and possibly the jack cable connection will need some care ... nothing to worry about though, thrust me.

delon85, are you telling us you actually bought a epiphone LP at RM700 ? shouldn't YOU be the one telling us whether it's a good bargain or not ? how's the guitar ? do you like it ?
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thx for the response...

QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Dec 2 2005, 09:44 PM)
Btw, you said vintage right? What year was it made in? 80s? Early 90s?
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i believe it is the colour, vintage white and not the model.

QUOTE(Pix @ Dec 3 2005, 04:39 AM)
xnobys / ledzepfreak is right, MIJ are real good guitars with a constant quality. You can't go wrong with it. Plus, yours look fabulous !! Electronic is ok, but you might need a pickup upgrade in few years (that's cool ! you don't have to stick with average us fender's pickups, you can go for cheaper and higher end ones !), and possibly the jack cable connection will need some care ... nothing to worry about though, thrust me .
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err... which part do i need to thrust you? laugh.gif

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EW LOL ^

BTW MIJ Fenders are almost the same quality as MIA.
So RM1.7k for the same quality = STEAL!
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QUOTE(Pix @ Dec 3 2005, 04:39 AM)
delon85, are you telling us you actually bought a epiphone LP at RM700 ?  shouldn't YOU be the one telling us whether it's a good bargain or not ? how's the guitar ? do you like it ?
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im not so sure laugh.gif
its my starter guitar blink.gif
its a epiphone LP special for about rm 700
gonna get it nxt tue/wednesday tho
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delon85 .. well, be sure to tell us how is the guitar, and how is the overall transaction (via Ebay, right ?). i think it's a real good price ! i don't really like the sunburst on the picture though... but it doesn't really matter. You're starting with a nice guitar, thrust me.

xnobys > tongue.gif tongue.gif
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i will wink.gif
yeah its an ebay transaction tho
im gonna need amp+cable+tuner nxt
found some nice amp i think
Kustom KLA10 for less than rm70 current
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i wouldn't say a Kustom 10W is gonna make a big grin on your face... are you sure it costs RM70 ?? it's the price of 2 sets of strings laugh.gif
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QUOTE(delon85 @ Dec 3 2005, 11:38 AM)
i will wink.gif
yeah its an ebay transaction tho
im gonna need amp+cable+tuner nxt
found some nice amp i think
Kustom KLA10 for less than rm70 current
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Don't lar put the Epi through a Kustom amp, save up and get a better amp. thumbup.gif

xnobys, opps you're right, it's vintage white. If I'm not mistaken Beck's model is Olympic White in colour, so yours has a little yellow in it, cool! thumbup.gif

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mine is vintage white... but yours look more like olympic white.
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I think it's probably because of the lighting, if you look harder, you could see a bit of yellow in it. smile.gif
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i looked hard... but it doesn't look like vintage white to me : the pickguard wouldn't match a vintage white in that way, you should see a contrast between the two white tones. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe not. Maybe you do see yellow stains. Maybe you should clean your computer's screen thouroughly and start going to the toilets tongue.gif
rhaaa...
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save up and get better amp?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...me=STRK:MEBI:IT

not 40W?

edit: nvm... output is 12W u guys were right biggrin.gif

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hi guys, anyone looking for second hand guitar? i haf a fren of mine letting go he's electric guitar

Epiphone Gibson Guitar w/ Amp

everything in for RM600.
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delon85, yeah it's a misleading ebay bid. It's ont 40W but 10W, you can see it just by looking at the size of the amp. you will not go far with that, but it's cheap...
roland cube30 (bentley's) and vox AD30VT (CK music) could be a good match, but you'll have to throw in RM400 ++. if you're an ebayer, look for those beats, possible good deals...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Roland-Cube-30-Ampli...1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vox-AD30VT-Valvetron...1QQcmdZViewItem
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ouch... look at the price tag biggrin.gif
then again i guess its ok biggrin.gif
any other recommendations other than this 2?
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pix/led zep,

the strat is not here and the dude is selling it on behalf of his friend. managed to get it at RM1.6k+strap+new strings but he needed a non-refundable deposit of RM200 before he can get the guitar in. and i can't try it first. what do you guys think? is it some sort of a bogus deal?

i went to guitar store y'day and had played with the same jap strat (i guess) but with different colour selling for RM3k. man, the construction is smooth and i see/hear no defects, buzzing, etc at all. the quality of the construction is top notch...
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xnobys, who's this guy ? is he working in a music shop ? if yes, then a deposit is understandable. Otherwise, the usual way is that he hands the guitar to you and you pay him on the spot.

if he doesn't agree with this, then ... tell him you want to talk to the owner of the guitar and do the deal with that guy. if he still says no, then you're in the middle of a weird deal. Be sure the deposit is "documented" (a bill, a contract, with ID...) allowing you to get the RM200 back if the guitar is not in the condition stated verbally.

He wants a deposit to "force" you to buy it when it's there. Cuz he doesn't trust you ? Well, make him understand that if he doesn't trust you, then you don't have to trust him either. And mention to him that you tried a MIJ fender strat, so you know what to expect, and that's what you want to buy.

Of course, you have to soften the edges of what i'm telling you wink.gif i'm just so pissed by that way of "street" trading, which is SO frequent in south east asia. One dude knows a lad that sells something, but the lad's not here, so we just wait and pay beforehand, the dude will go somewhere and come back and give you the phone number and the address of the possible location of a second lad who used to live with the sister of the first lad, but by the way, the stuff is not ready yet, you'll have to wait 3 more weeks... GRRRR. vmad.gif

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I saw the rest of the pics in Jamtank, you're right Pix, the 'yellow' could hardly be seen lol. Might be Olympic White after all? tongue.gif

Try to get a COD deal from him since the seller's his friend, the friend should trust his judgement, right?

Btw, what's the difference of these 2? tongue.gif
Power Input-40 watts max
Power Output-12 watts max

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led zep, power input would be the electrical consumption, i suppose, but it's totally misleading. Clearly written by someone woh knows nothing about amps OR try to over-describe the amp in order to blow away beginners wink.gif

delon85 > errr. my friend, read the whole thread, you'll have your answers. i'm just telling you the global and current trend about cheap amps. If you want details, you'll have to read all the previous pages. wink.gif
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wow...
http://www.citymusic.com.sg/deals.html

i think those packages come with Hamer guitars, which are quite OK...
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I saw the rest of the pics in Jamtank, you're right Pix, the 'yellow' could hardly be seen lol. Might be Olympic White after all? tongue.gif

Try to get a COD deal from him since the seller's his friend, the friend should trust his judgement, right?

Btw, what's the difference of these 2? tongue.gif
Power Input-40 watts max
Power Output-12 watts max
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usually u see the power output of the amp to know its performance.

amps like those Pix recommended are really good for performing to a small group because its 30W... more power. sounds are energy. therefore the more power u have the more energy u can transmit.

10W-15W are usually practise amps and for beginners wink.gif
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well, it's not really about the power, because between 15W and 30W, it's not that much difference in terms of "decibels", but it's more about the speaker's size, as you noticed earlier. It's a huge quality gap between a 6" or a 8", and a 10".
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hi guys, anyone looking for second hand guitar? i haf a fren of mine letting go he's electric guitar

Epiphone Gibson Guitar w/ Amp

everything in for RM600.
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i'd pick the epiphone anyday over the ibanez GRX... especially as a matter of style !
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anybody got experience with olp/music man guitar? the mm1fr looks nice lah drool.gif and got great review too..
comes with floyd rose bridge, fine by me but some people just hate it...
jsmusic at jln imbi hav them i think, not sure bout the price though.... anyone??



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speaking of cheap guitars, i saw this really nice ThunderX les paul copy
its a great copy, it even has a set neck not bolt on....
n if my memory serves me right, it has a mahogany neck
but a different body.... its pretty heavy.... its almost a clone in design, only the headstock
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Does somebody know how much is this SQUIER Stagemaster (new) costs???
Just wanna find out, thanks..

24-frets. Floyd-Rose Bridge
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my epiphone wub.gif
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finally got it on friday morning
a bit busy so only posted today laugh.gif

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delon85 : nice wink.gif

xnobys : find out more bout the guitar like pix said n if sumthing seems fishy like hes trying to avoid ur questions, id recommend u to walk away.. there r other ways to get a MIJ strat if this doesnt work out..
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Delon..... Real nice guitar. Welcome to the Epiphone/Gibson army bruther!!

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QUOTE(delon85 @ Dec 12 2005, 04:31 AM)
my epiphone  wub.gif
finally got it on friday morning
a bit busy so only posted today  laugh.gif
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I thought this belongs to "Flash Us" topic? tongue.gif

Anyway did you get this LP from Harmony??? Cause I played one the other day that looks very much like yours! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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Does somebody know how much is this SQUIER Stagemaster (new) costs???
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davidlow7, you're not in the right thread...
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hey blacktrix, ain't that epi LP looks familar???? .... u have one that looks exactly the same rite.....

BTW, the other day when i was in Bukit Raja, i saw a SX LP copy...the poison series, all black with a scorpion on the fret board...damn cun...guess how much it cost??? RM 600.00+- only....
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QUOTE(Pix @ Dec 12 2005, 01:31 PM)
davidlow7, you're not in the right thread...
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nice LP delon85
welcome to the epiphone club XD

y dun we start an LP fan club tongue.gif discuss bout LP's n stuff tongue.gif
n of course user list XD
wud does the mods think?
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QUOTE(plankton @ Dec 12 2005, 09:40 AM)
xnobys : find out more bout the guitar like pix said n if sumthing seems fishy like hes trying to avoid ur questions, id recommend u to walk away.. there r other ways to get a MIJ strat if this doesnt work out..
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thx for the advice man. really appreciate it.
unfortunately the strat was sold to someone else abroad.
i'm eyeing on ST68-85TX and is currently dealing with hiroaki from ishibashi.
got it below RM3k + hardcase + insurance.
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I thought this belongs to "Flash Us" topic? tongue.gif

Anyway did you get this LP from Harmony??? Cause I played one the other day that looks very much like yours! thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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Nope. I have the 2 tone and volume knobs and the pickup selector switch is at the top... like a normal Les Paul
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delon's les paul only has 2 knobs? although 2 pickups? means no tone?
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QUOTE(xnobys @ Dec 12 2005, 06:25 PM)
thx for the advice man. really appreciate it.
unfortunately the strat was sold to someone else abroad.
i'm eyeing on ST68-85TX and is currently dealing with hiroaki from ishibashi.
got it below RM3k + hardcase + insurance.
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xnobys, the ishibashi u said b4, is it in japan? my fren bought camera n laptop at japan (the place has bashi word, and i thought that is ishibashi..) that place got very very very cheap 2nd hand goodies...correct if i'm wrong

1 more thing, i saw vantage brand guitar at cash converter last thursday, is it VANTAGE or VINTAGE, very nice red colour..i wanna buy it, going to ampang point to draw money, when i go back there no more..
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QUOTE(shiinkuro31 @ Dec 30 2005, 04:10 PM)
xnobys, the ishibashi u said b4, is it in japan? my fren bought camera n laptop at japan (the place has bashi word, and i thought that is ishibashi..) that place got very very very cheap 2nd hand goodies...correct if i'm wrong

1 more thing, i saw vantage brand guitar at cash converter last thursday, is it VANTAGE or VINTAGE, very nice red colour..i wanna buy it, going to ampang point to draw money, when i go back there no more..
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they too have 2nd hand equipment. just click the U-BOX.
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No, the Les Paul has 1 tone and 1 volume control only.
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Did you know that the Les Paul was once supposed to be under Fender? There was rumors in the company that the great Les Paul was going over to Fender to create the ultimate guitar.... However, the Strat was released to a bigger success that they didn't need the support of Les.

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Whats a good beginners amp? Below RM300
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Whats the most suitable electric guitar for beginner to learn ? A LP, a SC or one like the GRX40 with 2 single coil and a humbucker?
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Whats a good beginners amp? Below RM300
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ilfr, try browsing through that thread, you'll find plenty of information.
below 300RM... i dunno, probably a 15W amp, since they all sound the same, don't worry too much about the brand. If you can put 400RM, I think you can get the "good" 15W, such as Roland Cube15 and Vox AD15. Correct me if I'm wrong about their prices though...

As for the guitar, you can't go wrong with the Yamaha entry level guitars. Very good price, good quality, and you don't pay for the brand. Check out the shops list. In Yamaha they also sell Lany's amp, so you can get a Laney 15W + the Yamaha and possibly get a good bargain wink.gif
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Thanks man! Yes i have browsed thru a couple of threads already, now just want to make the decision.

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guyz, know anywhere where i can buy behringer amps around kl? i mean is there any authorized dealer hera? need to find ultracoustic amp. thanks
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Hi Namqul, welcome here ! check the "Music Shop" thread and / or post your question there rather than here. thx wink.gif
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this amp comes with the yamaha package right?

QUOTE(nerd @ Jan 7 2006, 02:51 AM)
My Yamaha GA-10. tongue.gif
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yeap. it's the one.
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guyz, know anywhere where i can buy behringer amps around kl? i mean is there any authorized dealer hera? need to find ultracoustic amp. thanks
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Hello everybody!!!! biggrin.gif

Just dropping in to say how happy I am to have found an absolute gem. My guy has been talking non-stop about his friend who was a luthier, right. And this guy was an apprentice of some big nob in Canada or sumthin. So, he has returned to Malaysia and is currently producing ABSOLUTELY BLOODY BRILLIANT ACOUSTIC GUITARS!!! My friend took in 4 of 'em to help him sell them. There was also a second hand min Takamine on sale at his shop. I triep the Takamine first, great sound, deep bass and so on. But I wasn't gonna expect what happened next. I strummed an E' on this locally made guitar and I was shocked. It was georgeous. I felt like I was playing a RM5000 Taylor. The neck was smooth (slim), it was slightly small and light but the bass and tone was out of this world. I'm not really good at describig how guitars sound like. But once you play this baby, you'd know immediately that it was first class hand made sh*t..

The guitar goes by the name Free Man (the surname of his master I think - Freeman)
it retails at around RM1800 <--- worth every penny
spruce stika solid top, bindings etc.. gotta see it to believe it. I'll take pix and show u guys wub.gif
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that's great ! did you buy it finally ? if you could post the whole address in the music shop thread, we can try to advertise for this guy.
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FYI, as discussed by PM

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thanks man! just been listening to your songs in virtual jam, nice one mate!

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if you're a beginner, you can still check out those 3 points. You just have to trust your judgment / unconscious - it'll work wink.gif
for yamaha, go to KL plaza, and for friendly staff, go to CK Music. JS music might be friendly too, they've just opened and are right behind CK music. CK and JS don't sell yamaha though, but nvmind.
check out the music shop thread

have fun there !

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Honestly i am just begining to learn.....i wouldnt be able to test a new guitar as extensively as you just mentioned but i did try to get a feel on them tho :-)
Any friendly guitar shop you personally recommend mate?


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Hi man,
I went to the yamaha shop to look around for guitar just now.......saw this entry level Pacifica 012... RM600 and one RGX121 (2 hum, 1 coil) RM930...have u ever heard about them?


They're both good guitars, did you try them ? When you do, just focus on:

- your left hand on the neck : must feel comfortable and fast, it really depends on your hand shape, check how smoothly is the finish on the back of the neck, and the material on the toop side of the neck.

- the body shape : when you're sitting down, check the guitar is not hurting you laugh.gif

- finally, the sound : check all the pick ups sound, all the combinations, in clear and distortion settings.

- one more thing : try a guitar model which is just slightly more expensive (from yamaha still) (let's say around 1200RM) and see how it compares to the entry level ones you're trying. Maybe it'll totally worth putting in the extra cash ? Maybe not. Be sure.

finally, take home the guitar you prefer the most wink.gif go try other guitars too, in bentley for instance.
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that's great ! did you buy it finally ? if you could post the whole address in the music shop thread, we can try to advertise for this guy.
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Aww Pix, I unfortunately, I dun have RM1800 lying around under my bed haha. But, if I do have money soon, I'm gonna get one for meself. Of course, I have to sell my other acoustics first. Dun wanna hav too many lying around the house lol.

I don't have the exact address, but if you are familiar with SS15, near Taylor's? there's a mini shopping mall in there. The store is on the second floor. Its not a big mall, so ur sure to find it. The shop also sells SXs, second hands, and does repairs. Its opened rather late, around 12 ish and the owner is simon. Check it out!
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no, i don't know there... but nevermind. local luthiers are the best way to go ! i'll put up the ad.
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Went to the mini shopping mall next to Taylor's as mentioned but couldnt find the guitar shop up or down.............damn!

QUOTE(Pix @ Jan 11 2006, 12:54 AM)
no, i don't know there... but nevermind. local luthiers are the best way to go ! i'll put up the ad.
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ilfr,
com'on dude, share what you just bought here... equipment, review, price.
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Heh where can i get cheap electric guitar hard cases and stands? Need a few for my frens~
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Search through THIS thread Alpha...... I know, it's hard work trolling through the topic, but all your answers is already here......

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we talked about stands ?? i must have blanked that out... aiyo, my dear old memory.. Alpha, do a search in the forum, and if nothing comes up then your question remains valid wink.gif
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Paiseh man.......as am in no position to review a guitar yet...hehe

Anyway its a Washburn X10 guitar i got it from SS15. S-S-H setup. 24F, black and the usual stuff. You can read the reviews from better players here ---> http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/Data...urn/X_10-1.html
i also got a Roland Cube 15 amp.
All for RM900.

Now i have a problem and i suspect is because of the cheapo Rm15 guitar cable.....when i set my guitar or amp to high tune, its giving a hell lot of hizzling sound, damn annoying! It gives the same noise even when i only plug the cable into the amp without connecting to the amp.....any idea? and any recommendation for a better cable if necessary??
Thankssss!

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ilfr,
com'on dude, share what you just bought here... equipment, review, price.
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QUOTE(ILFr @ Jan 13 2006, 02:26 AM)
Paiseh man.......as am in no position to review a guitar yet...hehe

Anyway its a Washburn X10 guitar i got it from SS15. S-S-H setup. 24F, black and the usual stuff. You can read the reviews from better players here ---> http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/Data...urn/X_10-1.html
i also got a Roland Cube 15 amp.
All for RM900.

Now i have a problem and i suspect is because of the cheapo Rm15 guitar cable.....when i set my guitar or amp to high tune, its giving a hell lot of hizzling sound, damn annoying! It gives the same noise even when i only plug the cable into the amp without connecting to the amp.....any idea? and any recommendation for a better cable if necessary??
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It might be your cable, yeah. It could be fine, but it's just picking up electrical interference from something. For example, if my cable is unplugged and lying on the floor, I get a whole lotta noise. Once I plug it in, it's fine.
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ilfr : what happen when you switch your guitar to the humbucker only, without using the single coils ? still hissing ? then yeah, possibly the cable. you can get a planet wave cable for 70RM in yamaha shop. A really really really good cable, trust me, you'll keep one life time.
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Pix, i will try it once i get home!
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i am requre to get a guitar for my guitar lesson. i am a noob in guitar, just started and dun even know how to play any song yet. wad is the cheapest guitar i can get? my budget is rm250 can i get a guitar? wad brand and model will u recommend for this budget? is buying 2nd hand guitar recommended? cause i scare i buy 2nd hand one then got alot problem...
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Search through THIS thread Alpha...... I know, it's hard work trolling through the topic, but all your answers is already here......

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I'm sorry if this question has came up before in here. But I was just wondering how much will a Ibanez RGT6EX http://www.ibanez.co.jp/japan/index.html be in Malaysia.

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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Jan 13 2006, 05:31 PM)
Said it once, and I'm saying it again:

Search through THIS thread Alpha...... I know, it's hard work trolling through the topic, but all your answers is already here......

a reminder from your friendly neighbourhood Elite-Man.
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Hi,

I'm in the market for either roland cube 30 or vox ad30t.

i like vox's a lot, but i came across the ZOOM Fire 30, with more effects and models.

anyone played the zoom amp before? any comments? what about behringer 30W modelling amps?

thanks..
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post Jan 20 2006, 10:43 PM

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i tot behringer only came in 60W models


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i think that's the new one ... GMX110.. not too sure bout specs, the website very vague.. actually got vintage amp modelling or not..

read some reviews on the zoom fire 30.. seems a lot of hissing from speaker..
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A couple of month ago, i asked around about the cheapest acoustic amp around. Here is what ive found out. It is the behringer at108. a 15w acoustic amp. Its not much, but for me... its enough. im not that good anyway. But here is the best thing bout the amp, it also have one mic input. so for you guyz who want to listen to yourself singing while playing, this should be enough. and another best thing is that it cost only rm 306. this is the price when i bought it. this is only my opinion. and hope there is someone who will find this usefull.
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after so so so so long... i finally find a guitar tt suit my budget. TGM C-10. its pretty low end and it is only around rm170. any comment?
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Namqul, big thx for sharing. Your opinion is highly valuable, you shouldn't be so shy biggrin.gif
So overall, you didn't say whether the sound provided by the amp is pleasing you ? 15W usually gives just a bit more presence, for an acoustic guitar, in clean channel, but it opens possibilities to distort your tone and get some nice Nirvana grungy tones biggrin.gif (at least, that was what a friend and I used to do when we were beginners laugh.gif)

newbie2, i have never heard of this guitar. Which brand is it ?
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Pix, not that im shy or anything, just being truthfull that im not good and an amature in this field. Thanks anyway for the warm welcome. Well, for RM306, the amp sounds great. Its clear and I felt that all the money spent is worth every penny. Its true that 15w wont be enough for a hall, but to practice in your own room, it would be enough. But if you guyz have a lot of money, there is this AER acoustic amp that cost RM3500. It sound perfect. Well maybe thats why it cost that much. This is what the guyz at The Guitar Store at cheras show to me when im there buying the amp. But than again, it is like comparing a ferrari with a kancil. But overall, the amp is great and for you guyz who dont have enough money to buy amplifiers and speakers, this amp should be a good one for your singing practice while playing with another amp for your electric guitar. Now what i need is a nice acoustic guitar to go with the amp. My J.D by marshall sounds awfull, or than again maybe its my skill. haha
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woaw, that's nice from the guy at Guitar Store to let you try out this monumental AER amp ! And in a way it is very useful to help you choose a good amp : after driving a Ferarri, you're more likely to choose a good car because you know what to look for, even if it is cheap as a kancil..
i'm not saying kancil is good though laugh.gif the only time i drove one, i couldn't push only one pedal at a time with my feet : i broke and accelerated at the same time, while unclutching laugh.gif

Pix is a hairy Bigfoot...
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Just admit that you're clumsy lar hahaha...

Anyway the AER amp is very good sounding, but it won't make a cheapo acoustic sound good, so you need to fork out summore for a Martin/Taylor/(Inserts famous acoustic guitar brand). laugh.gif

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