i think my guitar and amp belongs in this category.
mine is a yamaha electric guitar beginner's set, a yamaha ERG-121 and a GA 10, along with tuner, strings, picks, truss rod adjustments and gizmos for rm950.
allow me to do a mini review on this package, ya?

the amp should be avoided like the plague. yes, it works extremely good for beginners. the distortion's fine, the clean's good. no overdrive though. a 10 watter. it worked fine for me TILL I joined guitar classes earlier this year. where i learnt the techniques and stuff. after all that, the shortcomings of the amp are really shown. for instance, palm muting sounds like fart on that. yeah, i'm not joking. and pings don't ring alot, just a short ping, for about 2 secs, 5 at most. though it might not matter to some. lol. but the muting farting sound is really a letdown. i got a KLA-20R from a friend which works alot better (MUCH!) but then he took it back for a small gig in school. meh. so i'm stuck with it now. and i'm not liking it. just telling myself that at least i have a damn amp. lol. market value is about rm320 i think.

as for the ERG-121, it's okay. much better than other guitars. looks mean. black finish. H-S-H lineup. the bridge humbucker sounds really solid, the single coil sounds decent while the neck isn't really my choice. the vintage trem bridge works fine too. only retune about once a month. pickup switch is a lil bit flawed. when u switch pickups in d middle of a song, this small "pop" sound can be heard. it's body is agathis, neck maple while fingerboard mahogany. no qualms about the fingerboard and action, just okay for it's price. i daresay a change of pickups would further increase the quality of the sound. not sure about the market price, but the guitar is really good for the package. just change the stupid amp.

yeah i know.. but i've tried a kustom KGA-10 b4.. a 10 watter and a practice amp.. and it sounds ALOT nice than the GA-10.. i CAN get the vox ad60VT or the roland cube 60.. IF i get 10As for my SPM trials.. that's what my dad told me..

the clean channel's fine.. love it. the disto rocks too. more like the kgr16, just softer.

meh, i'm not confident in 10As for trials! gonna be damn hard. just 30 days away.. damn!

haha alright thewhacker! will try my best. i'll try and get double of urs! lol

anyway, i think the ad60vt's too expensive lol. my dad'll flip when he sees the price. i think it's about 700USD? and that's without tax here.. maybe the cube 60 will suit d budget.. 230 pounds.. not meaning to brag, for those who think i am.. hopefully i can replace my GA-10 ASAP if i don't get 10A1s guess i'll fork out my duit raya after spm to get a MS-2 lol. or maybe get the KGR 16

anyway, to avoid running offtopic, viking amps are another hybrid to be avoided. they got overdrive but it's extremely muddy.
IMO, the best starter amps (about 10-20W) are squier's, ibanez, and kustoms.

AD50VT rm1200? cun lah. my target list.
but according to reviews, the mesa modeller sounds kinda digital compared to the roland cube. the mesa modeller is what i'm craving.. i'm a metallica guy.. oh of coz the jcm800 modeller is another one i'm looking for..

one more month b4 trials, can i make it? i'm doing okay, just failed addmaths for my midterm.. 2A1s, 1F, and a lil bit in between..

when choosing my electric guitar, my dad tried the behringer and didn't like it (that time i knew nuts about guitar). true kustoms are more towards the value-for-money range. really sweet sounding for the price. havent tried the higher end ones though. played with the 10W, 16W and 20W ones and they sound really nice. agreed will rock if paired with an OD pedal.

This post has been edited by nerd: Jul 31 2005, 04:28 PM

how's the sound of SD-1 like? ZW-44 is in my target list once i get the money.

wah led zep. mmg awesome info! thx alot! yeah another feature that sets the AD50 and the AD30 is the external speaker support.. who cares if it doest supply enough wattage for gigs? there's the external speaker support.. and for now, i'm not doing gigs, heck, i dont even haf a proper band..

erm, ledzep, can give ur opinion on the mesa modeller of the vox? and what's a noise gate?

This post has been edited by nerd: Jul 31 2005, 05:27 PM

narh i can demo nick_drake's ad30vt anytime, he's a friend of mine.. just that i don't have the time..

u still havent answered my question!
what's a noise gate?

This post has been edited by nerd: Jul 31 2005, 05:35 PM

if i get my straight As.. straight away after SPM! lol. if i don't get straight for trials, then it's straight for SPM.. which is march or so.. T_T

how much is the AD15VT? not really interested but just asking..

sure we'll see how it goes.. at least a 70 for 10 subjects.. T_T

led doesnt have an ad50 la.. he just did alot of research on it.. his target amp..

drake, u mean tinker with the EQ?
edited: don't u mean preamp tube in ur post?

This post has been edited by nerd: Jul 31 2005, 08:43 PM

haha yeah.. drake and his pop n punk rock songs.. n he plays it real well too!

mesa's dual recto is reknowned for it's goddamnly high gain.. check out any recent concert vid by metallica and u'll know..

gonna give d manual a read.. i love that kinda stuff..

drake, thx 4 d info on the tubes inside the vox.
gotta give ur ad30 a try. when r u free?

v-ampire it's not exactly "cheap" and "old".. lol

taylor's subang is quite near.. ss15.. maybe can go to the sri melur there for drake's teh ais bungkus lol

the roads leading from ss15 to usj is quite simple IMO.

hope thewhacker doesnt screw us for being too offtopic..

our school from ss15 sri melur is FAR.. but taylor's ss15 from sri melur is near ..

i'm free after SPM..

now also i can but dpends on when lo..

nickdrake has the ad30VT

anyway, like ledzep said, the vox AD15 or roland cube 15 are good bargains. try 'em out!

haha.. don't really know la.. trials really near.. crunch moment

i think yamaha carries laney

as for me.. i check the reviews on durability more than sound.. coz it's important, durability is objective, while sound is subjective.
get what i mean?

what he meant dat some ppl (esp noobs) want to have that 24 frets just to "tunjuk terror" that he got more notes to play.. like "OMGWTF I CAN PLAY 2 FULL OCTAVES U CANT".. it's normal for all newcomers to guitar. as in wanna tunjuk terror..

sorry if it sounds vague, u know wat i mean?

This post has been edited by nerd: Oct 5 2005, 06:03 PM