1. The way he phrased it, implied that whey was unnatural. That's how i read it.
2. Think before you type, i've seen plenty of your useless+uninformative+misleading replies in other threads.
3. Stop going crazy over anyone with a 'female' tag, you've never seen any before ?
4. Now, train hard.

Lemme improvise on this. Too many people are too quick to label themselves as hardgainers. They don't eat enough, or if they eat enough, they go on the wrong program. Over the years of working out, imo, any so called bodybuilding oriented program which has planned calculated poundages is inherently flawed.

Our bodies all have mood swings, sometimes it's one of those dog days where you just don't have it in you to go super heavy. So what happens when they try to hit that targeted poundage? Injury, demoralization, demotivation, etc. Resetting poundages back 2 workouts or whatever they want to call it, it still boils down to the same principle. Listen to your body.

It's really that simple, it's not rocket science, period. I'm sure chicaman knows this, I definitely know this since we've both trained at Terry's gym regularly at some time or the other. And chicaman, your progress is phenomenal just listening to what Terry touts, again, listening to your body. Good job.
Btw, I met up with pedro for shisha just now, he gained size, not bad.

Since when have I given misleading replies?I know I made one silly statement in one thread,so what?Big deal?And you went and take it so seriously,didn't you? 

Me going crazy over someone with a 'female' tag?Haha u got to be kidding me 

Yea,I am training hard,who are you to say I'm not?

Chill guys

We are so few, we should make friends, not enemies 

Lemme improvise on this. Too many people are too quick to label themselves as hardgainers. They don't eat enough, or if they eat enough, they go on the wrong program. Over the years of working out, imo, any so called bodybuilding oriented program which has planned calculated poundages is inherently flawed.

Our bodies all have mood swings, sometimes it's one of those dog days where you just don't have it in you to go super heavy. So what happens when they try to hit that targeted poundage? Injury, demoralization, demotivation, etc. Resetting poundages back 2 workouts or whatever they want to call it, it still boils down to the same principle. Listen to your body.

It's really that simple, it's not rocket science, period. I'm sure chicaman knows this, I definitely know this since we've both trained at Terry's gym regularly at some time or the other. And chicaman, your progress is phenomenal just listening to what Terry touts, again, listening to your body. Good job.
Btw, I met up with pedro for shisha just now, he gained size, not bad.

Lemme improvise on this. Too many people are too quick to label themselves as hardgainers. They don't eat enough, or if they eat enough, they go on the wrong program. Over the years of working out, imo, any so called bodybuilding oriented program which has planned calculated poundages is inherently flawed.

Our bodies all have mood swings, sometimes it's one of those dog days where you just don't have it in you to go super heavy. So what happens when they try to hit that targeted poundage? Injury, demoralization, demotivation, etc. Resetting poundages back 2 workouts or whatever they want to call it, it still boils down to the same principle. Listen to your body.

It's really that simple, it's not rocket science, period. I'm sure chicaman knows this, I definitely know this since we've both trained at Terry's gym regularly at some time or the other. And chicaman, your progress is phenomenal just listening to what Terry touts, again, listening to your body. Good job.
Btw, I met up with pedro for shisha just now, he gained size, not bad.

lol yes. i never have weight/fat problem, the problem is i never gain weight thru out my life, no matter how i eat like a horse... i.e. some guys has problem finishing fries of a Carls Jr large meal, but i dun but whatever i eat seemed like "evaporate" but check with doc he said just high metabolism not worms (like i suspect)

so up until last year i actually never bother to exercise cos tats supposedly just for fat girls  but then suddenly just felt like getting lean & toned after watching Nike Women ad and stuff...think those girls look way better than Marie France bodyline or all those slimming center ads girls.

and so i start gym & with a PT.

but then, realising ... toning to look lean, is x999 harder than losing weight...

I'm cool 

If I gained size means you ate the Hulk and took his place!

Now going to do some research!

umm.... i really think the juice thing is a joke loh lol.
i really went to google ur apple for bicep, kiwi for tricep etc (LOL!!!) and theres no sources that i can find to support that...

i really think its an analogy ur using to say u just dont train bis and tris together on d same day. hehe
and that any juice is fine? cos the carbs and sugars in the juice are good fuel for workout, doesnt matter what juice? lol

guys ...wanna ask..

for workouts ,
what is the differences between :

set X rep or set X do-until-failure ?

But i tot DL and kmaru train the Bicep & Tricep in same day called arm day. Refer to their log.
I'm Wrong??

But i tot DL and kmaru train the Bicep & Tricep in same day called arm day. Refer to their log.
I'm Wrong??

To be frank, hard gainer always say they eat a lot, but the fact is that they eat so little!!! A large meal from carls junior is so small~

marie france models or any slimming centre models for tat matter are generally girls with skin and bone. sports models are girls with muscles with very low bf%.

then wat u consider big? those guys big sizes also cannot finish the fries after finish the burgers...

when i just got back from houston last yr i had a hard time eating at cafeteria... the portion just too pathetic! and if i order "aunty, kar(add)dai(big), kar meat kar this kar that" and "tambah / besar" at malay stall, when i reached the table with my tray, ppl stare at me like one kind, especially wth my body&size...other girls normal size meal still have to take 1 extra bowl & share...

but last time eat till full without exercise is not so siok like now, after gym go chilies, steak, side dish whipped potatoes with extra mozzarella cheese sprinkles, onomnomnomnom... 

then wat u consider big? those guys big sizes also cannot finish the fries after finish the burgers...

when i just got back from houston last yr i had a hard time eating at cafeteria... the portion just too pathetic! and if i order "aunty, kar(add)dai(big), kar meat kar this kar that" and "tambah / besar" at malay stall, when i reached the table with my tray, ppl stare at me like one kind, especially wth my body&size...other girls normal size meal still have to take 1 extra bowl & share...

but last time eat till full without exercise is not so siok like now, after gym go chilies, steak, side dish whipped potatoes with extra mozzarella cheese sprinkles, onomnomnomnom... 

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Added on December 1, 2010, 3:30 pm
bf% close case for me, i sudah kahwin... lol

my hubby said i look nicer in evening dresses now, because shoulder rounded up and back got build... last time wear evening dress c bone sticking out only

What your training program look like?

err...bf% = body fat %, not boyfriend....nothin to do with kahwin...hehehhee...

basically the fats coverin ur body...
low body fat % u can c more muscles(if any), but it can mean smaller breasts too, cos breasts r made up of fats