Sometimes when browsing the net related to SSD, i stumble upon some web discussing the issue of "SSD have higher failure rate". Though i do not dig deep into it. The only link im able to recall is:

http://hothardware.com/News/SSDs-Have-High-Failure-Rate/

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Typically, people keep complaining about SSD's reliability and price but do not actually own a SSD drive. Get 1 and it will change your mind.

To show the performance difference, here is the benchmark screenshot of my own entry level SSD and F3 1TB:



Please don't compare to the internet reviews as I just wanted to show my own experience of the performance difference.

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Added on September 24, 2010, 5:57 pm Please look at the date of the article and it is very vague. Technology is moving fast and nowadays flash memory has a much higher write cycles already.


This post has been edited by hosealwh: Sep 24 2010, 05:57 PM

Yeah i did say the 'only one' i can recall though

+1. For comments should be based on personal experience and not quoting from others.

You will need to write over 100GB a day to an Intel 80GB SSD in order to wear it out in 5 years time. You will need to have a constant download rate 9.48 Mbps for 5 continuous years to achieve this.

Of course, at that rate, you will also need to flush out the data onto your other secondary storage devices. Do you happen to have such a real demand?

Also, Bittorrent is a terrible example. Because a typical chunk for the big files are usually 4MB, so SSDs will not outperform normal HDDs by a significant margin on this task. SSDs will also not outperform HDDs because your Bittorrent demand of 9.48 Mbps is equal to only 1.2 MB/s. Please keep in mind that the F3 can read at well over 100 MB/s.

Please throw this particular concern into the nearest trash can, pour petrol on it and throw a lighted match into the can. It is dead. Stop flogging the carcass.

Does that include shipping from the US to your home?

The TRIM run onto the SSD drive because of SSD is using Flash Based.
May I know is our 64GB Thumb Drive (Flash Based) can run the TRIM to refresh its flash memory inside to improve its performance ?

AFAIK, TRIM is flash controller based and it needs to be support by OS as well. Basically I don't see a need for thumb drive to have this function as they are not being wrote often as much like SSD.

There are reasons why SSDs are more expensive then thumb drives.

This post has been edited by hosealwh: Sep 25 2010, 12:58 AM

i thought our thumb drive also has Flash Controller inside.
Initially using my 8GB Corsair Flash Voyager GT is very flash.
I using it very frequent, write, delete, overwrite & write again.
Now feel the thumb drive write slower & slower.

How to really refresh a full thumb drive capacity ?
No format just won't do freshen up.
Any advise ?

That's the whole problem You're reading on a 2008 article which is totally outdated and technology have been improving so much ever since. Even the CPU's are a few generations ahead so please, try to google something more recent for better accuracy. SSD's these days use better controllers and hence does not have high failure rate.


Typical Malaysian mentality which I don't know why 70% of the people don't own SSD's and based on their readings and word of mouth, they start spreading the wrong information. This is a mentality which people should change.

2 words Its expensive
i always wanted to raid a HDD but if i raid 2 HDD i would go for a SSD and the capacity of a SSD is very small, so end up i buy 1 HDD

This post has been edited by munak991: Sep 25 2010, 05:54 AM

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People who don't own any SSD will never know what's the SSD for.
the convenience of SSD in the laptops is just awesome. When you're in mobility, time is always concerned.
I believe people who don't like to wait minutes to boot up their long-used windows with tons of files instead of just 30-40 seconds

On the other hand, the typical hdd random access speed will never on par with ssd anytime. which is why ssd are so expensive
due to the flash memory

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Added on September 25, 2010, 12:03 pmlol
Raid HDD will only increase the seq. read/write speed.
Still slow mang when comes to random file accessing.
Buy an SSD, and buy a HDD for storage.

This post has been edited by 168257061: Sep 25 2010, 12:03 PM

the one who quoted 7.5 per gb. hmm that's if u do direct conversion using xe.com I suppose. it's imposible to get that rate.

Expensive is a relative term. I say it's cheap. LOL

This is the cost to reach Bolehland.
I am happy to take 2 new units of Vertex 2 for RAID at RM6.3/GB. You sell to me.

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Added on September 25, 2010, 8:43 pmPrice and model aside... When is the manufacturers gonna release firmware or driver that support TRIM on raid set up?

This post has been edited by ronaldjoe: Sep 25 2010, 08:43 PM

What is Trim, SandForce?
Does SDD have it own standard like ram?

Like I said, if you're not willing to spend and think it's expensive then forget about it Live with traditional HDD's or get those old/used IDE hard disks and save some money. You don't even need SATA It's not that you can't use them but just that they are not the latest and literally, slow. People that are never willing to pay more for the latest technology will never get to own it. By the time current SSD prices drop, something new has emerged so the cycle never ends. Either you go ahead and pay more for state of the art technology or just forget about SSD's.

This post has been edited by clawhammer: Sep 26 2010, 05:16 AM

its not the time yet ><

TRIM is a command that helps to maintain the performance of an SSD against file fragmentation. Older SSDs did not have support for TRIM, and thus will eventually perform slower and slower and the SSD gets more fragmented.

SandForce is a controller, something like a firmware.

SSDs doesn't have a particular standard at this time, other than adopting most from SATA.

If you want much more detailed information, google for it.

It was about two decades of HDD before SSD appeared in the consumer market. Might take another similarly long period to find a replacement.

Actually SSD's has evolved for a few generations since it was first introduced. The controllers were change, TRIM were introduced, fabrication process is now 32nm, etc. It's the same with platter drives, they started with IDE with low rpm, single platter then move on to the others. Hence, it's not the same and if you want cheap SSD's, there are also plenty of them around Why are they cheap? Answer is simple, those are the older days SSD techology. IT and computer technology moves very fast so it definitely won't take 2 decades (not even 2 years) for people to come up with something new.

But you will see the harddisk history, how long do the 3.5inches harddisk and 2.5inches harddisk conquer in IT consumer economy. It's not 1 year, not 10 years, but more.

It is true that we cannot predict the future, who knows after 1 year they release even new technology that even smaller than SSD. But you have to see the consumer side ( It will only get popular when the price is right ), if you ask anyone who owns the SSD, I can say not much of people purchase it. Even in US those guys are not even thinking of SSD unless those IT benchmark guys or reviewers.

A lot of consumers purchase harddisk primarily for storage and backup purpose. Since there is RAID technology, it should be easier compare with single harddisk. But those who has alot of budget, they can definitely go for SSD.

I have read the comparison between normal harddisk and SSD. Indeed SSD did provide good reading and writing speed. But guess what, this is only good for those video editing, large ( is very very large ) amount of data transferring, or other high volume of data might be getting benefit. I cannot denied that SSD can increase speed for booting and normal transfer, but with a few second differ, I don't see we need to purchase SSD which is 5 times (or more ) more expensive than normal hhd in order to satisfied for few seconds of performance increase.

Conclusion: See wallet pocket to tell the truth. XD Peace~~~

SSD's primary strength isn't its maximum read/write speeds (1.x to 3 times faster), but its extremely short latency (50 to 150 times faster). The much shorter latency is the reason SSDs are unbeatable by HDDs.