Read the reviews, everything is there and comparison is also available. The SSD is still faster and more superior, the Momentus XT can't even go on par but only near to the SSD in certain cases. Plus, Momentus XT cannot run on RAID-0.

You can install Intel SSD Toolbox, it'll tell whether it's G1 or G2 and do the TRIM for you with a click of a button

RM400? Seriously, I really have no idea why people always cannot be more realistic over the price. If we want to use the latest technology, prepare to pay a bit more. If budget does not permit, either we wait for this "new" technology to become old or go for conventional platter drives. Anyway, all the best in thinking that new SSD's would be as cheap as RM400 because by then, the Kingston would be RM200 a piece and I'd rather get 4 of those to RAID-0 than a piece of G3 80GB.

People have to start understand that SSD uses NAND and thus it might show a big difference in benchmarks (just like RAM), real world performance is not that noticeable. Do you notice a big difference running DDR3-1333 and DDR3-2000? The answer is "NO", you get good benchmark scores but you don't literally feel it. This is because most of the time, Windows apps and games tends to read multiple small files. If you're talking about reading huge files then yes, the difference is more substantial. RAID-0 would make things a bit faster but not much. Again, it looks good in benchmarks but in real world computing, the difference is minimal. I would say 1-2 secs faster in certain tasks.

What makes the SSD fast is the random access time and if you notice, all SSD's have 0.x ms so they are all more or less the same. Another problem is we have tons of people that does not own an SSD but after reading around the Internet, they start advicing and giving the wrong information. I am one of the early users of SSD and I can tell you that 1 x SSD would be ideal. RAID-0 SSD is only if you have extra cash and don't know what to spend on

I think it's fine as long as we share the correct information It's common over here that some people advice without knowing what they are talking about sometimes. When we RAID, we lose the TRIM feature so eventually things might go slow (which I also notice in my case). One of these days I have to do something about it, waste of time ain't it?

I think you totally do not understand what SSD's are meant for and how do we best utilize it. Firstly, start reading up google articles on what are the main advantages of SSD and why is it fast, becoming the current trend, etc. Secondly, if you're someone that doesn't go for technology and not willing to spend, don't ever think of SSD. You can settle down with normal SATA2 or even IDE drives (those won't depreciate so much). Sometimes it's simple, we do our own homework first and get an idea what the product is all about.

You basically want to improve the read speed of the OS, applications and games you're running hence you put all of these on the SSD drive. Photos, videos, documents, etc should go to the conventional platter drive. By doing this, everything in Windows would be snappier because of the improved response time from the SSD. Remember that most of the time, the bottleneck is with the hard disk drive, not our RAM or CPU. The SSD helps in this area by reducing the bottleneck.

Who told you it's high? Any source or internal information from Intel?

That's the whole problem You're reading on a 2008 article which is totally outdated and technology have been improving so much ever since. Even the CPU's are a few generations ahead so please, try to google something more recent for better accuracy. SSD's these days use better controllers and hence does not have high failure rate.


Typical Malaysian mentality which I don't know why 70% of the people don't own SSD's and based on their readings and word of mouth, they start spreading the wrong information. This is a mentality which people should change.

Like I said, if you're not willing to spend and think it's expensive then forget about it Live with traditional HDD's or get those old/used IDE hard disks and save some money. You don't even need SATA It's not that you can't use them but just that they are not the latest and literally, slow. People that are never willing to pay more for the latest technology will never get to own it. By the time current SSD prices drop, something new has emerged so the cycle never ends. Either you go ahead and pay more for state of the art technology or just forget about SSD's.

This post has been edited by clawhammer: Sep 26 2010, 05:16 AM

Actually SSD's has evolved for a few generations since it was first introduced. The controllers were change, TRIM were introduced, fabrication process is now 32nm, etc. It's the same with platter drives, they started with IDE with low rpm, single platter then move on to the others. Hence, it's not the same and if you want cheap SSD's, there are also plenty of them around Why are they cheap? Answer is simple, those are the older days SSD techology. IT and computer technology moves very fast so it definitely won't take 2 decades (not even 2 years) for people to come up with something new.

You don't get the point Let me tell you why:

1. You must understand that in a PC, there are always a need for non-volatile storage. As such, we have something called HDD (platter drives) in the past and now SSD (NAND-based flash memory). How can you compare in terms of 3.5" or 2.5"? It doesn't make sense

2. If you think SSD is a new product then you are wrong again. Please, use google.com or wiki to read up about SSD.

3. The problem with typical Malaysians are that people are never realistic. We expect everything to be cheap, think and day dream that SSD will have a 200-300% drop in price next month (for example). It is also because of such mentality, people easily get conned and fall into get rich quick schemes because of their sillyness and foolishness. Look, over time when production is getting higher, price will eventually be cheaper.

4. Based on your explanation, you totally have the wrong concept altogether. Your understanding about RAID is totally incorrect. The main purpose of RAID is obviously not for combining disks! If you think SSD is not popular in the US then you're wrong again You should join up some US based forums and look at their storage sub-section.

5. I do not want to dwell into how and why SSD is better than a normal hard disk but from the way you explain, I'm pretty sure you don't even own a piece of proper SSD so you can't tell nor differentiate. Your theory and conclusion is based on reading and understanding the wrong information from the wrong people OR you just don't get the whole point and picture of why SSD could make a difference to your daily computing.

6. No one is forcing you to buy. Everything that is new in the market is never cheap. It's either you are willing to spend for something state of the art or just live with technology of the past.

7. Lastly, it is best if you can find a PC running with a proper SSD so that you can understand what difference it gives.

Don't listen to myths The current Intel SSD is not even in the market for 5 years so how on earth can someone come up with a baseless assumption as such? In 2005, there aren't any SSD's for sale in Malaysia at the first place.

This post has been edited by clawhammer: Dec 24 2010, 04:53 AM

RAID-0 SSD will give you awesome benchmark scores but in real life performance it isn't so substantial. The thing that makes the SSD fast is because of the low random access times so even if you RAID-0, the random access times remains more or less the same at +/- 0.1ms. The only advantage is the added read speed.

In short, you can feel more difference doing a 2 disks RAID-0 on Raptors than SSD's.

The TRIM really makes a difference over time I've had SSD with and without TRIM and the one without TRIM can really slow things down after a while.

You can use it as anything you like but because our main OS requires a lot of reading and having SSD would make it a lot faster, that would be the best way of using it for now.

Nothing better to do, I did a RAID-0 array for 3 x Intel X25-M and this is what I get



In terms of real life performance, it makes a bit of difference and everything installs/loads up slightly faster

Intel makes some of the best SSD's around As expected, they have very low failure rate so I'm not sure what made people go for other brands thinking the extra speed on papers would make a difference but in fact, you rarely notice it on normal computing usage. It's like DDR3-1333 and DDR3-2133 so yes, it makes a difference but too small to bother unless people needs to copy gigabytes of data daily.

What matters is the read speed and random access times and we benefit from it the most. Write speed would help but how often do we copy chunks of files or endless installing software?

Yes, just plug and play because it's like any other hard disks Only the internals are different

Perhaps in another 5-10 years? I'm sure SSD will then be cheap but at the same time, people might be using fibre optics based hard disk or whatever you call it which is a few times faster. In technology, the wait never ends