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post Sep 23 2010, 02:19 AM

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Heard SSD failing rate is high. Higher than HDD
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Ah dtdw, I just dreaming dreaming + dreaming and suddenly got question at there. So asking for knowledge ma  cry.gif
pls allow people dreaming and imagines if get another piece and asking to gain knowledge  cry.gif
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hahah .. dream on(joke)


btw i just read that by raiding it, you gain insane read speeds. some test owned crucial sata3. but the write speeds is .. meh ... rather wait for G3 tongue.gif
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post Sep 23 2010, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ Sep 23 2010, 02:19 AM)
Heard SSD failing rate is high. Higher than HDD
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Especially those on Sandforce controller... tongue.gif It just would just die and bye bye.
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post Sep 23 2010, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Sep 23 2010, 10:40 AM)
Especially those on Sandforce controller... tongue.gif It just would just die and bye bye.
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Then consumer grade of SSD and even HDD don't suit you. You need to pay more for enterprise grade drives.
Also, SSD upgrade is perhaps better than even ram upgrade.

Some might say 10 sec program loading reduce to 5 sec loading like not significant but hey if you open programs day to day, how many seconds you have saved?
Especially you are in a rush to do something, what would you feel when something response slow like a snail?
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post Sep 23 2010, 04:20 PM

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Regarding game loading time, which in view of my sig you should know which game I am talking about...

Currently my loading time is hell annoying, even tried reformating, it just dont work.. Always slowest to complete my load..

I wonder if SSD would solve the misery I am facing..
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post Sep 23 2010, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(hosealwh @ Sep 23 2010, 01:58 PM)
Then consumer grade of SSD and even HDD don't suit you. You need to pay more for enterprise grade drives.
Also, SSD upgrade is perhaps better than even ram upgrade.

Some might say 10 sec program loading reduce to 5 sec loading like not significant but hey if you open programs day to day, how many seconds you have saved?
Especially you are in a rush to do something, what would you feel when something response slow like a snail?
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It's a matter of $$$ Vs Performance.
It got nothing to do with 10 sec or 5 sec. It's the overall experience, everything become snappier and responsive.
My proc already costed me 1k. Intel proc would cost even more.
Some ppl won't mind spending the extra on SSD.
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post Sep 24 2010, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(hosealwh @ Sep 23 2010, 01:58 PM)
Then consumer grade of SSD and even HDD don't suit you. You need to pay more for enterprise grade drives.
Also, SSD upgrade is perhaps better than even ram upgrade.

Some might say 10 sec program loading reduce to 5 sec loading like not significant but hey if you open programs day to day, how many seconds you have saved?
Especially you are in a rush to do something, what would you feel when something response slow like a snail?
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Ever considering durability vs performance?
a HDD can last > 5 years let say depreciation of the HDD is 20% slower
and a SSD constantly using can last around 5 years which totally to drain
Which 1 would u prefer if u are a company or a BT downloader?
I dont mind it slow down 5 sec( When you have time to play game 5 sec does it matters?)
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post Sep 24 2010, 03:22 AM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ Sep 24 2010, 01:53 AM)
Ever considering durability vs performance?
a HDD can last > 5 years let say depreciation of the HDD is 20% slower
and a SSD constantly using can last around 5 years which totally to drain
Which 1 would u prefer if u are a company or a BT downloader?
I dont mind it slow down 5 sec( When you have time to play game 5 sec does it matters?)
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I think you totally do not understand what SSD's are meant for and how do we best utilize it. Firstly, start reading up google articles on what are the main advantages of SSD and why is it fast, becoming the current trend, etc. Secondly, if you're someone that doesn't go for technology and not willing to spend, don't ever think of SSD. You can settle down with normal SATA2 or even IDE drives (those won't depreciate so much). Sometimes it's simple, we do our own homework first and get an idea what the product is all about.
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If you guys have a SATAII pc and stumble upon Intel X25-M, OCZ Vertex 2 and Crucial RealSSD C300, in reliability and performance point of view, which one would you choose? (Ignoring the price)
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post Sep 24 2010, 10:22 AM

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OCZ Vertex 2 FTW with Sata II
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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Sep 24 2010, 10:22 AM)
OCZ Vertex 2 FTW with Sata II
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i would think so too. and with the recent price cut from a certain seller here. 120gb is at a sweet spot with lowest gb per RM. i think its RM 9 per.

but stil playing a waiting game as it is dropping quite fast. tongue.gif

regarding sc2, without a doubt ssd would save the day.
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Is vertex 2 faster than Intel x25-m?
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post Sep 24 2010, 12:06 PM

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its funny how people just come here and want fast cheap yes no answers. its like asking is intel faster than amd ?
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QUOTE(dtdw @ Sep 24 2010, 11:37 AM)
i would think so too. and with the recent price cut from a certain seller here. 120gb is at a sweet spot with lowest gb per RM. i think its RM 9 per.

but stil playing a waiting game as it is dropping quite fast.  tongue.gif

regarding sc2, without a doubt ssd would save the day.
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Kingston's price hasn't been beaten yet though. RM 6.71/GB for the 128GB for the V edition.
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post Sep 24 2010, 01:09 PM

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Vertex 2 120GB below RM7.50 per GB. You do the math... LOL
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post Sep 24 2010, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Sep 24 2010, 03:22 AM)
I think you totally do not understand what SSD's are meant for and how do we best utilize it. Firstly, start reading up google articles on what are the main advantages of SSD and why is it fast, becoming the current trend, etc. Secondly, if you're someone that doesn't go for technology and not willing to spend, don't ever think of SSD. You can settle down with normal SATA2 or even IDE drives (those won't depreciate so much). Sometimes it's simple, we do our own homework first and get an idea what the product is all about.
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Hmmmm, I couldnt disagree you, you are true also i want SSD so much but after reading some of the article SSD doesnt works like HDD u need some space to let it work at optimal rate.
Maybe ill wait for SSD dominate the market 1st only i grab 1 unit
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QUOTE(munak991 @ Sep 24 2010, 01:26 PM)
Hmmmm, I couldnt disagree you, you are true also i want SSD so much but after reading some of the article SSD doesnt works like HDD u need some space to let it work at optimal rate.
Maybe ill wait for SSD dominate the market 1st only i grab 1 unit
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You basically want to improve the read speed of the OS, applications and games you're running hence you put all of these on the SSD drive. Photos, videos, documents, etc should go to the conventional platter drive. By doing this, everything in Windows would be snappier because of the improved response time from the SSD. Remember that most of the time, the bottleneck is with the hard disk drive, not our RAM or CPU. The SSD helps in this area by reducing the bottleneck.
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post Sep 24 2010, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Sep 24 2010, 01:38 PM)
You basically want to improve the read speed of the OS, applications and games you're running hence you put all of these on the SSD drive. Photos, videos, documents, etc should go to the conventional platter drive. By doing this, everything in Windows would be snappier because of the improved response time from the SSD. Remember that most of the time, the bottleneck is with the hard disk drive, not our RAM or CPU. The SSD helps in this area by reducing the bottleneck.
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Failure rate of SSD isit high?
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post Sep 24 2010, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ Sep 24 2010, 01:44 PM)
Failure rate of SSD isit high?
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Who told you it's high? smile.gif Any source or internal information from Intel?
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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Sep 24 2010, 01:09 PM)
Vertex 2 120GB below RM7.50 per GB. You do the math... LOL
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OCZ Vertex 2 120GB selling at US$240 in Amazon drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif or RM 6.3 per GB. can't resist it

I'm considered to buy it, anyone wanna join?

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