If got 1 million in bank account. Why not get one SSD. ;-)
The Solid State Storage Thread
The Solid State Storage Thread
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Sep 27 2010, 11:15 AM
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If got 1 million in bank account. Why not get one SSD. ;-)
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Sep 27 2010, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Sep 27 2010, 09:38 AM) But you will see the harddisk history, how long do the 3.5inches harddisk and 2.5inches harddisk conquer in IT consumer economy. It's not 1 year, not 10 years, but more. You don't get the point It is true that we cannot predict the future, who knows after 1 year they release even new technology that even smaller than SSD. But you have to see the consumer side ( It will only get popular when the price is right ), if you ask anyone who owns the SSD, I can say not much of people purchase it. Even in US those guys are not even thinking of SSD unless those IT benchmark guys or reviewers. A lot of consumers purchase harddisk primarily for storage and backup purpose. Since there is RAID technology, it should be easier compare with single harddisk. But those who has alot of budget, they can definitely go for SSD. I have read the comparison between normal harddisk and SSD. Indeed SSD did provide good reading and writing speed. But guess what, this is only good for those video editing, large ( is very very large ) amount of data transferring, or other high volume of data might be getting benefit. I cannot denied that SSD can increase speed for booting and normal transfer, but with a few second differ, I don't see we need to purchase SSD which is 5 times (or more ) more expensive than normal hhd in order to satisfied for few seconds of performance increase. Conclusion: See wallet pocket to tell the truth. XD Peace~~~ 1. You must understand that in a PC, there are always a need for non-volatile storage. As such, we have something called HDD (platter drives) in the past and now SSD (NAND-based flash memory). How can you compare in terms of 3.5" or 2.5"? It doesn't make sense 2. If you think SSD is a new product then you are wrong again. Please, use google.com or wiki to read up about SSD. 3. The problem with typical Malaysians are that people are never realistic. We expect everything to be cheap, think and day dream that SSD will have a 200-300% drop in price next month (for example). It is also because of such mentality, people easily get conned and fall into get rich quick schemes because of their sillyness and foolishness. Look, over time when production is getting higher, price will eventually be cheaper. 4. Based on your explanation, you totally have the wrong concept altogether. Your understanding about RAID is totally incorrect. The main purpose of RAID is obviously not for combining disks! If you think SSD is not popular in the US then you're wrong again 5. I do not want to dwell into how and why SSD is better than a normal hard disk but from the way you explain, I'm pretty sure you don't even own a piece of proper SSD so you can't tell nor differentiate. Your theory and conclusion is based on reading and understanding the wrong information from the wrong people OR you just don't get the whole point and picture of why SSD could make a difference to your daily computing. 6. No one is forcing you to buy. Everything that is new in the market is never cheap. It's either you are willing to spend for something state of the art or just live with technology of the past. 7. Lastly, it is best if you can find a PC running with a proper SSD so that you can understand what difference it gives. |
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Sep 27 2010, 11:19 PM
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Any bad remarks about the Corsair F60 SSD?
I am planning to get it for my future rig or should I wait for the next generation SSD? |
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Sep 27 2010, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE(dma0991 @ Sep 27 2010, 11:19 PM) Any bad remarks about the Corsair F60 SSD? I also want to get this F60 last 2 weeks. Then I googling a bit just before buy, so many bad news about this model,I am planning to get it for my future rig or should I wait for the next generation SSD? mainly because its Firmware problem Reading from so many sources also like that. I don't know whether it's alrd settle alrd or not. Hopefully fix it fast lah. I also want buy a good SSD. I find this F60 most fits me in terms of performance & budget. How come now those SSD so many issue (eg. Firmware/Controller) one, last time but a simple HDD only need to choose Brands, but now buy a SSD also need to know so many stuff. Tired alrd.... |
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Sep 28 2010, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE(zsnipes @ Sep 27 2010, 11:51 PM) I also want to get this F60 last 2 weeks. Then I googling a bit just before buy, so many bad news about this model, It would still be a few months before I buy it..hope they fix they update the firmware by then mainly because its Firmware problem Reading from so many sources also like that. I don't know whether it's alrd settle alrd or not. Hopefully fix it fast lah. I also want buy a good SSD. I find this F60 most fits me in terms of performance & budget. How come now those SSD so many issue (eg. Firmware/Controller) one, last time but a simple HDD only need to choose Brands, but now buy a SSD also need to know so many stuff. Tired alrd.... But it still has the Sandforce memory controller..one of the few reasons I didn't want to get the Kingston V series |
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Sep 28 2010, 12:54 AM
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Sep 27 2010, 02:16 PM) You don't get the point 1. I didn't compare 3.5 or 2.5. just that all are drives that able to save your data and storage in an efficient way.1. You must understand that in a PC, there are always a need for non-volatile storage. As such, we have something called HDD (platter drives) in the past and now SSD (NAND-based flash memory). How can you compare in terms of 3.5" or 2.5"? It doesn't make sense 2. If you think SSD is a new product then you are wrong again. Please, use google.com or wiki to read up about SSD. 3. The problem with typical Malaysians are that people are never realistic. We expect everything to be cheap, think and day dream that SSD will have a 200-300% drop in price next month (for example). It is also because of such mentality, people easily get conned and fall into get rich quick schemes because of their sillyness and foolishness. Look, over time when production is getting higher, price will eventually be cheaper. 4. Based on your explanation, you totally have the wrong concept altogether. Your understanding about RAID is totally incorrect. The main purpose of RAID is obviously not for combining disks! If you think SSD is not popular in the US then you're wrong again 5. I do not want to dwell into how and why SSD is better than a normal hard disk but from the way you explain, I'm pretty sure you don't even own a piece of proper SSD so you can't tell nor differentiate. Your theory and conclusion is based on reading and understanding the wrong information from the wrong people OR you just don't get the whole point and picture of why SSD could make a difference to your daily computing. 6. No one is forcing you to buy. Everything that is new in the market is never cheap. It's either you are willing to spend for something state of the art or just live with technology of the past. 7. Lastly, it is best if you can find a PC running with a proper SSD so that you can understand what difference it gives. 2. i nvr think SSD is a new product. ( You assume only ). That's is why it has been so many years, but SSD is still not able to rise up in the market, and yet everyone is still thinking of purchasing RM300+ 2TB harddisk. 3. Here is Malaysia. That is how the market is. I'm bought a PC cost RM8k last year. All frens and other relatives said I'm idiot. I do enjoy technology. But guess what. After use it for some time, I really do think it is really waste of money cause with RM3k I can still enjoy using PC. That is life. That is why people still hoping SSD to drop price. Trust me, it will. It is just a matter of time. ( This is what era, even LCD few years ago from 10k drop even RM600 only ). 4. RAID is used to increase storage reliability through redundancy, combining multiple low-cost, less-reliable disk drives components into a logical unit where all drives in the array are interdependent. I never say it is for combining disks. ( You assume it as well ). 5. It is true i do not own SSD. But do you think all reviewers in the whole world are giving wrong information? That is how I get my nice pc after reading review video for 3 months in total. I also know it can make difference for daily computing. But how much. Huge diff? How huge it will be? Could you please elaborate more on this? Cause I really do not think normal consumer really need to spend 1k on harddisk right now just can make difference for daily computing. ( Except for organization thats for sure ). If purchasing SSD is just to speed up games, processing daily photo, video editing, gaming ( Thats what all normal consumer do ). I think it's not worth it. 6. In fact, I'm not planning to buy at the moment 7. I feel it does not necessary to do so cause all my frens don't have SSD. With my current pc spec. I'm really happy with it I have alot of feeling about this since I bought RM8k PC. It is not that I wan to make myself bangga. Just to let you know. Here is Malaysia. If really want to make everyone able to get SSD. It's either make Malaysia economy better or wait till SSD drop price. Man.. writing this is like flamming already.. P/S: Lolz, after finish this post, i only find out is you. Yesterday afternoon we chat about acceletro 5870 lolz. This post has been edited by Jet23sky: Sep 28 2010, 01:05 AM |
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Sep 28 2010, 02:45 AM
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Will the RM 3K desktop with an SSD be slower, as fast or faster than the RM 8K desktop with a HDD at launching 50 programs? It may be interesting to see such a youtube clip.
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Sep 28 2010, 02:50 AM
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SSD is faster than HDD...
it's like comparing rocket engine with jet engine... |
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Sep 28 2010, 03:05 AM
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QUOTE(everling @ Sep 28 2010, 02:45 AM) Will the RM 3K desktop with an SSD be slower, as fast or faster than the RM 8K desktop with a HDD at launching 50 programs? It may be interesting to see such a youtube clip. Impossible for a regular 3k desktop with a SSD can be slower than a 8k desktop with a HDD..HDD is a bottleneck of the system..if only the bigger capacity SSD is cheap in the market then it would totally boost gaming loading times assuming it is installed on the SSD |
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Sep 29 2010, 01:43 AM
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One more reason to upgrade to ssd now,
http://www.storagereview.com/ocz_onyx_2_ssd_announced 120gb priced at $189 only! With read write speed up to 270MBps This post has been edited by iZZiDeltA: Sep 29 2010, 01:44 AM |
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Sep 29 2010, 08:13 AM
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Sep 29 2010, 09:55 AM
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The current generation of Intel's SSDs are out-classed by SSDs with SandForce controllers. It remains to be seen if Intel's 3rd generation of SSDs, coming out within the next few months, will be better or not.
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Sep 29 2010, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE(iZZiDeltA @ Sep 29 2010, 01:43 AM) One more reason to upgrade to ssd now, sometimes you just wish you'd born in a tech advanced world eh? latest stuffs can get instantly and no need rugi conversion. and always get rebate rebate. unlike here even after bargain stil so exp. lolhttp://www.storagereview.com/ocz_onyx_2_ssd_announced 120gb priced at $189 only! With read write speed up to 270MBps |
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Sep 29 2010, 11:58 AM
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haha very true...i guess grass is not greener here after all when it comes 2 latest tech eh
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Sep 29 2010, 12:07 PM
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The problem in Malaysia is there's less to no distributor to some great and/or rare items, that's why it's so expensive, it's also sort of monopolize.
Even the value items will become not-so-value when it came into Malaysia, and at the East here, we suffer more than just the conversion, shipping from West already cost us, even worst some retailer just don't want to import the stuff I wanted... *sigh* |
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Sep 29 2010, 02:37 PM
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Sep 29 2010, 03:36 PM
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OCZ's Fastest SSD, The IBIS and HSDL Interface Reviewed
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3949/oczs-fa...erface-reviewed QUOTE Dubbed the High Speed Data Link (HSDL), OCZâs new interface delivers 2 - 4GB/s (thatâs right, gigabytes) of bi-directional bandwidth to a single SSD. Itâs an absolutely absurd amount of bandwidth, definitely more than a single controller can feed today - which is why the first SSD to support it will be a multi-controller device with internal RAID. ![]() Instead of relying on a SATA controller on your motherboard, HSDL SSDs feature a 4-lane PCIe SATA controller on the drive itself. HSDL is essentially a PCIe cable standard that uses a standard SAS cable to carry a 4 PCIe lanes between a SSD and your motherboard. On the system side youâll just need a dumb card with some amount of logic to grab the cable and fan the signals out to a PCIe slot. ![]() The first SSD to use HDSL is the OCZ IBIS. As the spiritual successor to the Colossus, the IBIS incorporates four SandForce SF-1200 controllers in a single 3.5â chassis. The four controllers sit behind an internal Silicon Image 3124 RAID controller. The four PCIe lanes stemming from the controller are combined and sent over the HSDL cable to the receiving card on the motherboard. The signal is then demuxed by a chip on the card and passed through to the PCIe bus. |
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Sep 29 2010, 05:30 PM
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Gentlemen...I am new to SSDs...but from what my fren showed me...I believe it is something that I could use.
My fren booted his outlook as though it was already running. I am guessing this applies for applications like photoshop too? My 250GB HDD just died on me and I am looking for a replacement ASAP. So wanted to ask if buying a SSD is really that much better compared to conventional HDDs. If yes, what is the mainstream SSD drive now? Please recommend. Thanks! |
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Sep 29 2010, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE(PCHo @ Sep 29 2010, 05:30 PM) Gentlemen...I am new to SSDs...but from what my fren showed me...I believe it is something that I could use. It is really better compared to a regular HDD but state your budget first because some of them priced to give people heart attack..My fren booted his outlook as though it was already running. I am guessing this applies for applications like photoshop too? My 250GB HDD just died on me and I am looking for a replacement ASAP. So wanted to ask if buying a SSD is really that much better compared to conventional HDDs. If yes, what is the mainstream SSD drive now? Please recommend. Thanks! |
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Sep 29 2010, 06:11 PM
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