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post Sep 29 2010, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(PCHo @ Sep 29 2010, 06:11 PM)
RM700~800  sweat.gif
Izzit enough to get a good one?
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Intel X25M G2 80GB
Cost just right around your budget
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post Sep 29 2010, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Sep 28 2010, 12:54 AM)
1. I didn't compare 3.5 or 2.5. just that all are drives that able to save your data and storage in an efficient way.

2. i nvr think SSD is a new product. ( You assume only ). That's is why it has been so many years, but SSD is still not able to rise up in the market, and yet everyone is still thinking of purchasing RM300+ 2TB harddisk.

3. Here is Malaysia. That is how the market is. I'm bought a PC cost RM8k last year. All frens and other relatives said I'm idiot. I do enjoy technology. But guess what. After use it for some time, I really do think it is really waste of money cause with RM3k I can still enjoy using PC. That is life. That is why people still hoping SSD to drop price. Trust me, it will. It is just a matter of time. ( This is what era, even LCD few years ago from 10k drop even RM600 only ).

4. RAID is used to increase storage reliability through redundancy, combining multiple low-cost, less-reliable disk drives components into a logical unit where all drives in the array are interdependent. I never say it is for combining disks. ( You assume it as well ).

5. It is true i do not own SSD. But do you think all reviewers in the whole world are giving wrong information? That is how I get my nice pc after reading review video for 3 months in total. I also know it can make difference for daily computing. But how much. Huge diff? How huge it will be? Could you please elaborate more on this? Cause I really do not think normal consumer really need to spend 1k on harddisk right now just can make difference for daily computing. ( Except for organization thats for sure ). If purchasing SSD is just to speed up games, processing daily photo, video editing, gaming ( Thats what all normal consumer do ). I think it's not worth it.

6. In fact, I'm not planning to buy at the moment biggrin.gif . ( and no one is forcing me too lolz ) You pay what you get. Thats all I can say.

7. I feel it does not necessary to do so cause all my frens don't have SSD. With my current pc spec. I'm really happy with it biggrin.gif

I have alot of feeling about this since I bought RM8k PC. It is not that I wan to make myself bangga. Just to let you know. Here is Malaysia. If really want to make everyone able to get SSD. It's either make Malaysia economy better or wait till SSD drop price. Man.. writing this is like flamming already..  shocking.gif I apologise if there is any offend. PEACE~~ icon_rolleyes.gif

P/S: Lolz, after finish this post, i only find out is you. Yesterday afternoon we chat about acceletro 5870 lolz. whistling.gif
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U has the same side as me. I spend 10k on my dekstop after 2 years it is slower than a 3k com.
Now i use 4k to upgrade my PC to get super high end wohoo compare to last time 10k
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post Sep 29 2010, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Sep 29 2010, 06:30 PM)
Intel X25M G2 80GB
Cost just right around your budget
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I am not sure about that one..the read write speed is about 250/70 only (correct if wrong)
I am thinking that he should get the Corsair F60 @ RM650 with a read write of 285/275..
I am still waiting feedback on the Corsair F60 w/ SandForce controller..I am thinking of getting it if got positive response in this thread
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post Sep 29 2010, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(PCHo @ Sep 29 2010, 06:11 PM)
RM700~800  sweat.gif
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If you want more capacity than Intel's 80GB or Corsair F60's 60GB, you could consider Kington's SSDNow V Series 128GB (product no: SNV425-S2/128GB) for about RM850 at PC-Zone. It is a budget type SSD so it is not as good in performance compared to the first two, but it will still crush a Velociraptor and does have a lot more capacity.

Viewnet also carries it, for RM799. But I do not know if it is also the SNV425-S2/128GB. Do not buy it if it is the older model as that has serious performance problems that is boycott-worthy.

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yeah ibis ... insane ... price assume also insane .. but if adoption is fast, then price drop will also be fast.

but that just makes me like ocz even more. always inovating.


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well techs are getting faster but apps are not getting that much heavy-er. so its sure thing it gets fast with a lower cost.

but to reach 10k, it is possible if you buy a new setup compared to just upgrade, coz a few things dont change : monitor, psu, cooling, and hdd.

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QUOTE(dma0991 @ Sep 29 2010, 08:16 PM)
I am not sure about that one..the read write speed is about 250/70 only (correct if wrong)
I am thinking that he should get the Corsair F60 @ RM650 with a read write of 285/275..
I am still waiting feedback on the Corsair F60 w/ SandForce controller..I am thinking of getting it if got positive response in this thread
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Get Corsair or OCZ if you are onto Sandforce controller ssd. They have good throughput.
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post Sep 30 2010, 06:15 PM

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I've bought the Corsair F60 last week and so far so good. Booting up windows and loading applications are very fast. Here's my AS-SSD benchmark,

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Bought a SSD. Immediate advantage :-

1. Damned fast. Its like the first time you use a hard disk after being stuck with 5.4" floppy for your work. Thats the feeling you get when you move from HDD to SSD.

2. No sound. Not "Whisper Quiet", or "Silent Running", Or "Accoustic Dampened", the drive simply makes no sound. No whining as it spins up or down.

3. Very Cool - I use it in a MacBook Pro. By now, I should be feeling heat, but I'm not. biggrin.gif

4. No worries about chipped plates as you move your notebook around.

Note to Mac OS X users - Your primary choice should be Sandforce based controllers, either the SF1200 (OCZ Vertex 2, Corsair Force Series - Do note that some reports that this series have got firmware issues). For Vertex 2, get a firmware update (latest is 1.11) to get the best performance.

Reason why - Mac OS X don't support TRIM, so write speeds are going to suffer, therefore need one with good garbage collection, or better yet what you could abuse (write so many small files) without degrading performance too much.

Avoid Crucial's RealSSD. Not sure how well Kingston V+ handles small writes, and how it would degrade over time.


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QUOTE(redbull_y2k @ Sep 30 2010, 06:15 PM)
I've bought the Corsair F60 last week and so far so good. Booting up windows and loading applications are very fast. Here's my AS-SSD benchmark,

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Why is it that SSD's never actually reaches its max read write speed?
I know for a fact that it does not reach but I just don't know why it doesn't reach max.. hmm.gif
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post Oct 1 2010, 03:34 AM

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QUOTE(dma0991 @ Sep 29 2010, 08:16 PM)
I am not sure about that one..the read write speed is about 250/70 only (correct if wrong)
I am thinking that he should get the Corsair F60 @ RM650 with a read write of 285/275..
I am still waiting feedback on the Corsair F60 w/ SandForce controller..I am thinking of getting it if got positive response in this thread
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Well,that is part of the story tongue.gif
One thing you overlook is Random Read/Write smile.gif
Intel X25M might lost in term of bandwidth but is still quite a fast SSD and price is reasonable for what it is smile.gif
If you can wait through,G3 coming up soon and shall drop the price of SSD quite a bit due to use of 25nm NAND Flash Chip
25nm NAND shall be out sometime in Q4 2010 smile.gif

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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Oct 1 2010, 03:34 AM)
Well,that is part of the story tongue.gif
One thing you overlook is Random Read/Write smile.gif
Intel X25M might lost in term of bandwidth but is still quite a fast SSD and price is reasonable for what it is smile.gif
If you can wait through,G3 coming up soon and shall drop the price of SSD quite a bit due to use of 25nm NAND Flash Chip
25nm NAND shall be out sometime in Q4 2010 smile.gif
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I'm also waiting for the 3rd generation of Intel SSDs..
Just hope by that time it will be a lot cheaper as well.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(munak991 @ Sep 29 2010, 07:21 PM)
U has the same side as me. I spend 10k on my dekstop after 2 years it is slower than a 3k com.
Now i use 4k to upgrade my PC to get super high end wohoo compare to last time 10k
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If you ask me spending 1K-2k upgrading computer every year will end up faster than buying 4-6K PC every 3-5years. This is the whole reason why i do not want SSD now. It got plenty of room to drop the price. brows.gif

Waiting SSD to cost RM120-RM180 brows.gif

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i find it hard to believe 700+mb virus scanning. hmm.gif

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post Oct 2 2010, 11:44 AM

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ok y??
its actually lower than what i expected ...

please enlightened me

new score keeping this for 24/7 lol

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What is your SSD model and RAID configuration type?

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What makes your rig run at godlike speed? tongue.gif
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What makes your rig run at godlike speed?  tongue.gif
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right question

Intel RST Beta 10 driver.It uses 16mb caching of ure Mem
so when u have a insanely fast mem .. with low latency say running at 23k MB's..
result above is what u get.

ICH10R now is insane..
But comes at a cost. anything above 210 now i am no more superstable.Suspect i am hitting the Read limit on Sata 2..if u see the above atto u will see suddenly a consistent read of 761519
Still testing stage now..


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