yep. ever played sc2 with the stupid loading bar destroying your mood ?

anyway your statement aint very clear for the first sentence compared to your 2nd. i guess it's less value getting HDD raid setup.

ssd raid will shave 1.2 roughly seconds in boot as seen on the video. but it's true you dont need to raid it, unless strike lottery.

wait for 1 more year and it will be USD 0.50 per gigabyte.

Not sure where i've sourced it but prices are gonna fall to USD 1/gb by end of this year.

This is more than moores law. It's kinda like an explosion. Lightspeed may hit the market way slower, because when enterprise ssd becomes consumer grade = 500mb+ read/write. okay off topic.

Anyway to the person who says let it hit RM 100-200. I'd say when it hit 1gb/dollar, it is a good time to buy. Think of it as PC on steroid.

You've upgraded every single component on your pc, and want it faster. You're willing to spend thousands on cpu. Another thousand on Mobo+Ram combo. Hey, why not add another thousand and put those games and photoshop on steroid ?

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Added on August 27, 2010, 12:01 amNo ssd yet. But i've had a solution.

Open your case and put your ears at the HDD. If you hear HDD groaning while your' loading a level or in the middle of something, it is seeking data.
If you hear it way lot more, than it's constantly seeking, which would mean, ssd win due to low seeking time.

Most rts games dont seek because when it's loaded the whole thing is thrown it.

RPG seeks. because throwing the whole thing in is insane, imposible. In such situation ssd helps by low seeking time + 275mb read access.

This post has been edited by dtdw: Aug 27 2010, 12:01 AM

well we wont know how fast prices can fall. but if based on intel's roadmap, they always do a refresh at the same price. ok mayb not always, but assuming 160 refresh to 300 at the same price as now. which the cheapest i found in forum would be 1.3k ? and they're introducing 600gb. give them a year more and that 300 will be 600 @ 1.3k again .. yep it's fast.

i for one, dont know what the heck is 10k rpm lying around anymore. let the alone the hybrid.

*yea i think it's lightspeak but whatever lol ... i had no interest in that far of a future ..

one must rmb that it took years for hdd to fall to this low, partly due to size increase and parts are widely available making reduced manufacturing cost.

ssd has effect on hdd price somewhere or another, since many consider ssd main with 2tb backup.

but you forgot how exp those 20/40/80gb were, and you're dying to get a pay check so that you can buy it, coz you dont have enuf space, or it always die on you once a year. (i'm a victim of dead hdd) lol ..

and then not forgetting the noobish days when you complain the pc is slow, and someone smarter just say " upgrade your ram, buy another stick and shove it in " .. hahah .. and ram aint cheap before ..

so now you have the best option, get ssd, at the exp price you spent on pata hdd, and ram .. and no more complains

like previous post, it depends. ssd is more prone to write limitation. but it can be considered a myth.

head over to http://www.storagesearch.com/ssdmyths-endurance.html

regarding your faster read > write. Your decision should be based on controllers. There are lots of controllers floating around. intel / indilinx / sandfore / i dont even care. lol . mayb iops matters but i dont have the time to dig for such info.

read and write currently are more or less few MB difference. What you should look at other than controller is maximum achieved by sata 2 or sata 3. the later obviously owns.

komag i tot i was hacked ..dam u lol ..

anyway while trying to understand more bout ssd, i stumbled upon pcie interface. ocz has made a revo but it is silent in the market coz ppl r stil skeptic about ssd.

but as nand begin to shrink nm and prices fall, and people are hitting sata3 limit, perhaps pcie will kick in. but it will take another 10 more years. too slow.

the thing about revox2 is that it has already surpased sata3. but x2 price remain unknown whether it will replace x1 with the same price. currently its about .. 400usd for 120gb, not too expensive.

im gonna check if suppliers around LY brings in such model. but its 99.99% unlikely and has to be ordered.

This post has been edited by dtdw: Sep 17 2010, 02:44 PM

I am one of the many who don't own one yet and start giving advises. lol. but my advice is more realistic and based on lots of sources including YouTube. truth be told some ppl raid it but it kinda slowed it compared to single. for example ncix 8 ssd crysis. so based on that we can advice ppl to be aware of raiding it.

it really depends on what you want. do you want space OR speed ? as far as raiding goes, its on a different level. Its like trying to OC your processor to 4ghz and testing stability for weeks and months.

in short, its like what claw said, waste alot of time. =P

i realise many people here kinda derive from a crossfire/sli background, and thinks raid is the same. even if it is the same, not all sli works like a charm, and at times i'd rather buy a single more powderful card.

one simple advice. get a sandforce controlled 120gb as main, and keep intelG2 as secondary, and ofcourse 1tb whatsoever as overall backup.

err lol not me .. i was just telling the person before the post since he already has intelG2. there's two choice : raid it or get a new one. the less hassle and have trim support is to buy a faster main, and keep G2 as not-too-slow-loading-less-intensive-apps .. XD

>billy

impatient is the word. facing office pc with PATA hdd, and going back home with just mediocre SATA hdd, well that makes a very frustrating day. hahah

hahah .. dream on(joke)


btw i just read that by raiding it, you gain insane read speeds. some test owned crucial sata3. but the write speeds is .. meh ... rather wait for G3

i would think so too. and with the recent price cut from a certain seller here. 120gb is at a sweet spot with lowest gb per RM. i think its RM 9 per.

but stil playing a waiting game as it is dropping quite fast.

regarding sc2, without a doubt ssd would save the day.

its funny how people just come here and want fast cheap yes no answers. its like asking is intel faster than amd ?

the one who quoted 7.5 per gb. hmm that's if u do direct conversion using xe.com I suppose. it's imposible to get that rate.

sometimes you just wish you'd born in a tech advanced world eh? latest stuffs can get instantly and no need rugi conversion. and always get rebate rebate. unlike here even after bargain stil so exp. lol

yeah ibis ... insane ... price assume also insane .. but if adoption is fast, then price drop will also be fast.

but that just makes me like ocz even more. always inovating.

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Added on September 30, 2010, 10:23 am


well techs are getting faster but apps are not getting that much heavy-er. so its sure thing it gets fast with a lower cost.

but to reach 10k, it is possible if you buy a new setup compared to just upgrade, coz a few things dont change : monitor, psu, cooling, and hdd.

This post has been edited by dtdw: Sep 30 2010, 10:23 AM

i find it hard to believe 700+mb virus scanning.

well .. because each ssd reads maximum of 300 ? and if just two becomes 600 ?

unless it actually depends on ram as well .. or test suite is flawed..

nope. and nope.

80gb perhaps. when gen3 comes out, which hopefully adjusted to the price of current 40gb.

in 5 years, a new tech will be out to replace ssd, with faster speed and reliability. and drastic drop will not be possible, but each month it drops a few cents maybe. so its ok to say it will drop in 5 years to match the current hdd price.

but it will never catch up, coz hdd will feature 5tb and above, while ssd will not, at the same price. at least until the density of hdd is reaching its limit and prices goes up.

perhaps you are right, it will take very long to replace ssd. but maybe i meant tech that adds speed and reliability on ssd, which is new controller tech which bring reliability and speed, more so than a hdd that only increase the rpm and nothing else.