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post May 30 2010, 09:31 PM, updated 16y ago

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hi all, im a malaysian, not studyin nor working in sg, can i open a bank account in singapore??

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post May 30 2010, 11:50 PM

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Yes, you can. Some SG banks have tight account opening requirements. I think OCBC requires a referral from an existing customer to open an account.

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post May 30 2010, 11:52 PM

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Try DBS/POSB. Or you can try with Maybank Singapore. Many Malaysians who do not study or work there have an account with them.

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post May 31 2010, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ May 30 2010, 11:52 PM)
Try DBS/POSB. Or you can try with Maybank Singapore. Many Malaysians who do not study or work there have an account with them.
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What are the pros and cons ?

Maybank singapore would be easier to transfer money to/out malaysia ?
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post May 31 2010, 11:03 PM

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I recently open bank with DBS/POSB. Took me less than 10 minutes. I don't even stay / work there. My main purpose is for online transactions only because I do not trust Maybank (yet) ^^;

I tried another bank, they say I have to work/resides in Singapore to be eligible. The bank is red in color, can't remember much.
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QUOTE(blackflam @ May 31 2010, 11:03 PM)
I recently open bank with DBS/POSB. Took me less than 10 minutes. I don't even stay / work there. My main purpose is for online transactions only because I do not trust Maybank (yet) ^^;

I tried another bank, they say I have to work/resides in Singapore to be eligible. The bank is red in color, can't remember much.
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how much is the TT charge to transfer money to malaysia ?
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QUOTE(jalsrix @ May 31 2010, 10:58 PM)
What are the pros and cons ?

Maybank singapore would be easier to transfer money to/out malaysia ?
I do not have an account with Maybank Singapore. Therefore, i can't comment much. But i believe it is very easy for Malaysian to open an account with Maybank Singapore. As a matter of fact, i believe you can open a Maybank Singapore through any local Maybank branches here in Malaysia without you physically going to Singapore.


QUOTE(blackflam @ May 31 2010, 11:03 PM)
I recently open bank with DBS/POSB. Took me less than 10 minutes. I don't even stay / work there. My main purpose is for online transactions only because I do not trust Maybank (yet) ^^;

I would have preferred to open an account with DBS/POSB too due to their vast ATM network on the island. DBS also do not charge any fee when we use their Singapore issued ATM/VISA debit card to withdraw money through their ATM in DBS Hong Kong, DBS Taiwan and DBS Indonesia.


QUOTE(blackflam @ May 31 2010, 11:03 PM)
I tried another bank, they say I have to work/resides in Singapore to be eligible. The bank is red in color, can't remember much.
It probably is OCBC Bank.

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post Jun 1 2010, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Jun 1 2010, 12:47 AM)
DBS also do not charge any fee when we use their Singapore issued ATM/VISA debit card to withdraw money through their ATM in DBS Hong Kong, DBS Taiwan and DBS Indonesia.

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How come there are no DBS Malaysia ?

Can we use DBS in Thailand too ?

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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Jun 1 2010, 05:01 PM)
How come there are no DBS Malaysia ?

DBS Bank wanted to apply for one of the two commercial banking licences which to be awarded this year but dropped out in the last minute. It is reported that they are more interested in venturing into the retail mass banking market and the commercial banking licences won't allow them to do that hence the last minute dropout.

Anyway, the owner of DBS Banking Group, Temasek Holdings is the single largest shareholder of Alliance Bank. Rumor is that they are waiting for Bank Negara to open up the local banking industry to foreign players and they will eventually merge Alliance Bank into DBS Banking Group.


QUOTE(jalsrix @ Jun 1 2010, 05:01 PM)
Can we use DBS in Thailand too ?
DBS is not in the retail banking in Thailand. They are currently present only in Singapore (obviously), Hong Kong, Taiwan and Indonesia. Another rumor is that PT Bank Danamon Indonesia, one of the largest banks in Indonesia which is also majority owned by DBS Banking Group's parent, Temasek Holdings will eventually be merged into DBS Banking Group too.

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I believe if you got UOB ATM card, you can withdraw from Malaysia ATM FOC.
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Jun 1 2010, 05:51 PM)
I believe if you got UOB ATM card, you can withdraw from Malaysia ATM FOC.
Even if you have a UOB Singapore ATM card, you will still be charged for each cash withdrawal at any UOB Malaysia ATM. I am however not too sure what are the charges like though.

As for OCBC, if you have a OCBC/OCBC Al-Amin Malaysia ATM card, you will be charged RM2 each time you withdraw money at any OCBC Singapore/OCBC-NISP Indonesia ATM. Same goes to OCBC Singapore ATM/VISA debit cardholders. When they withdraw money at any OCBC/OCBC Al-Amin Malaysia ATM, they will be charged SGD2/withdrawal.

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QUOTE(gilabola @ May 30 2010, 11:50 PM)
Yes, you can.  Some SG banks have tight account opening requirements. I think OCBC requires a referral from an existing customer to open an account.
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post Jun 2 2010, 02:55 PM

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hi all, im a malaysian, not studyin nor working in sg, can i open a bank account in singapore??
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Recommend DBS bank for Malaysian to open bank account in Singapore. Easy to open, excellent service (much better than Malaysian banks vmad.gif), just 10-15 minutes, they even fill in the bank opening form for you. Also instantly eligible for ATM/debit card, internet banking and secure device.

Requirements :

1. Malaysian IC
2. SGD 500 minimum deposit

Benefits:
1. Platinum ATM/VISA debit card, free of charge
2. Will send statement every month to your Malaysian home address, free of charge
3. Can use internet banking anywhere (using a secure device), free of charge
4. Can register your Malaysian HP no for internet banking message, free of charge
5. Online bank fraud refund guarantee. thumbup.gif

Cons:
1. No Malaysian bank presence
2. SGD 2 fee per month of your account value falls below SGD 500

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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 2 2010, 02:55 PM)
Recommend DBS bank for Malaysian to open bank account in Singapore. Easy to open, excellent service (much better than Malaysian banks  vmad.gif), just 10-15 minutes, they even fill in the bank opening form for you. Also instantly eligible for ATM/debit card, internet banking and secure device.

Requirements :

1. Malaysian IC
2. SGD 500 minimum deposit

Benefits:
1. Platinum ATM/VISA debit card, free of charge
2. Will send statement every month to your Malaysian home address, free of charge
3. Can use internet banking anywhere (using a secure device), free of charge
4. Can register your Malaysian HP no for internet banking message, free of charge
5. Online bank fraud refund guarantee.  thumbup.gif

Cons:
1. No Malaysian bank presence
2. SGD 2 fee per month of your account value falls below SGD 500
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How much do they charge for autobilling? can you pay your water and electricity, credit card bills through the website? what about Interbank transfer?


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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 2 2010, 02:55 PM)
Recommend DBS bank for Malaysian to open bank account in Singapore. Easy to open, excellent service (much better than Malaysian banks  vmad.gif), just 10-15 minutes, they even fill in the bank opening form for you. Also instantly eligible for ATM/debit card, internet banking and secure device.

How much does it cost to transfer money from Singapore to Malaysia over the internet ?
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Are there anybody that is not studying/working in Singapork but purposely crossed the causeway carrying a bunch of Singapore Dollars in cash just to open a bank account there? (thinking of doing this)

What is the purpose of doing it? Is it a means to safe guard your money?

Can anybody share their experience to me. PM etc.
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post Jun 18 2010, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(wu ming @ Jun 18 2010, 10:24 PM)
Are there anybody that is not studying/working in Singapork but purposely crossed the causeway carrying a bunch of Singapore Dollars in cash just to open a bank account there? (thinking of doing this)

What is the purpose of doing it? Is it a means to safe guard your money?

Can anybody share their experience to me. PM etc.
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I did and opened an account with DBS bank, carried some SGD1k notes, for easy carrying laugh.gif. Anyway manage to lose some of 'deposit' at Marina Bay Sands. blush.gif .

My main purpose is for easy credit to my singapore investment, diversify my cash and asset holdings, safeguard my money against sudden devaluation and also just in case this country tells me ' you tak suka, you keluar!'. whistling.gif

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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 18 2010, 10:47 PM)
My main purpose is for easy credit to my singapore investment, diversify my cash and asset holdings, safeguard my money against sudden devaluation and also just in case this country tells me ' you tak suka, you keluar!'.  whistling.gif

Appreciate it if you can tell us how best to invest in Singapore for low risk investment .

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Just to share I went to SG & open Maybank account years ago. Very easy, passport, IC, SGD 200.00/500.00 (forgot)
The reason open a/c ... to transfer paypal funds, coz last time Malaysia no paypal. icon_rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Jun 19 2010, 12:10 AM)
Appreciate it if you can tell us how best to invest in Singapore for low risk investment .
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There are no good low risk investment in Singapore, the interest rate and FD is very low. Even SG bonds are paying only about 1-2% yield. I invest in a higher risk instruments in SG, the low risk portion is in Malaysia.

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Can we transfer money via internet TT from DBS bank, Singapore into Malaysia maybank account ?

How about from singapore maybank to malaysia maybank ?


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not sure abt DBS but i have experience transferring money from a Singapore maybank account to a Malaysian maybank account (not the same person) and was charged SGD15 for the online transfer.
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QQ... I though we (Malaysians) need Bank Negara approval to open an account overseas?

I'm thinking of opening an account in Singapore for stock trading.
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QUOTE(Eugenet @ Jan 5 2012, 05:18 PM)
QQ... I though we (Malaysians) need Bank Negara approval to open an account overseas?

I'm thinking of opening an account in Singapore for stock trading.
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No need , just bring IC & passport can d. DBS bank now min requrement is 1k Sing, and they pay 0.05% interest....
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QUOTE(Eugenet @ Jan 5 2012, 05:18 PM)
QQ... I though we (Malaysians) need Bank Negara approval to open an account overseas?

I'm thinking of opening an account in Singapore for stock trading.
I also can confirm that you do not need a prior approval from BNM to open an account overseas.


QUOTE(orangbulu @ Jan 5 2012, 08:12 PM)
No need , just bring IC & passport can d. DBS bank now min requrement is 1k Sing, and they pay  0.05% interest....
S$1,000 is for S Pass and EP holders. For all other foreigners, you need S$5,000 of initial deposit as well as to maintain the account (to avoid the S$2 fall-below fee).

Anyway, UOB Bank is a better choice if one is looking for a more affordable Singapore based savings account as one only needs an initial deposit of S$1,000 to open a savings account as well as to maintain the account.


**post edited. S$2 mistakenly written as S$2,000.

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QUOTE(orangbulu @ Jan 5 2012, 08:12 PM)
No need , just bring IC & passport can d. DBS bank now min requrement is 1k Sing, and they pay  0.05% interest....
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FD also gives around 0.05% - which is way lower than the inflation rate of 3-4% (i think). There is no point saving your money in there. On the plus point, SGD has been steadily appreciating against MYR over the years. Just a few years ago, the exchange rate was 1SGD=2.2MYR. Now the SGD has gone up another 10%!!!
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Jan 5 2012, 09:03 PM)
I also can confirm that you do not need a prior approval from BNM to open an account overseas.
S$1,000 is for S Pass and EP holders. For all other foreigners, you need S$5,000 of initial deposit as well as to maintain the account (to avoid the S$2,000 fall-below fee).

Anyway, UOB Bank is a better choice if one is looking for a more affordable Singapore based savings account as one only needs an initial deposit of S$1,000 to open a savings account as well as to maintain the account.
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Just in case any existing DBS a/c holders wondering if the SGD5k applies to them. Not entirely.
If you open before 12 Sept 2011, your fall below rate is SGD500 and won't change.

You can call to confirm, I did and the CSO confirmed with me, she said my fall below rate will only change if I close the a/c and open again. She also reassured me that if I ever remove until SGD600 I still won't be 'taxed'. Anyway, for ease of mind, please call them, they pick the phone quite fast, but the menus are very long.

And also to check the fraud cases today from DBS/POSB (someone skim cards and go to JB to withdraw SGD200,000 total [SGD1k x 200 transactions] ) to make sure my money wasn't laundered away.

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Thanks everyone for your helpful insights. Malaysian has strict currency controls. Singapore, while considered a very open economy, is also beginning to tighten their laws and enforcement (see Bloomberg article).

It helps knowing that there are others also have an SG account. I am just an ikan bilis investor (only 10-20k to start with), and I don't want to waste time getting hauled up by SG or MY authorities to explain such the small sums.
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You do need to abide by malaysian regulations about currency removal. There's a max limit before you have to declare to customs.

10-20k is still a large sum to carry around.

Suggest you do so bit by bit.

Anyway, personally I do not see why you'd want a SG bank account, the interest rate is pathetic. Travelling into SG also takes up the interest earned, somehow if I didn't already have an account and I want SGD, I'd just change at money changer and keep at home or keep in forex FD, and even then the interest rate is pathetic because pegged to MAS rates.
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QUOTE(MYstombox @ Jan 6 2012, 06:54 AM)
You do need to abide by malaysian regulations about currency removal. There's a max limit before you have to declare to customs.

10-20k is still a large sum to carry around.

Suggest you do so bit by bit.

Anyway, personally I do not see why you'd want a SG bank account, the interest rate is pathetic. Travelling into SG also takes up the interest earned, somehow if I didn't already have an account and I want SGD, I'd just change at money changer and keep at home or keep in forex FD, and even then the interest rate is pathetic because pegged to MAS rates.
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Yes, I won't be carrying that kind of money in pocket. I'll be buying SGD over a period of time from Malaysian friends working there.
The purpose of the a/c is really for stock investment in SG over long term. Interest rates is a small matter. Even our 3% FD aren't that fantastic.

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QUOTE(MYstombox @ Jan 6 2012, 06:54 AM)
You do need to abide by malaysian regulations about currency removal. There's a max limit before you have to declare to customs.

10-20k is still a large sum to carry around.

Suggest you do so bit by bit.

Anyway, personally I do not see why you'd want a SG bank account, the interest rate is pathetic. Travelling into SG also takes up the interest earned, somehow if I didn't already have an account and I want SGD, I'd just change at money changer and keep at home or keep in forex FD, and even then the interest rate is pathetic because pegged to MAS rates.
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You are allowed to carry USD 10K equivalent of currency notes and do not have to declare at customs. Anything more than that you need to declare.

I view MY SG bank account and investment as a insurance in case of 'you tak suka you keluar' happening. rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

For DBS if you have the old account the min amount is SGD 500, for new account holders it is SGD 2K minimum.

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QUOTE(gark @ Jan 6 2012, 10:58 AM)
For DBS if you have the old account the min amount is SGD 500, for new account holders it is SGD 2K minimum.
For new holder should be S$1,000 or S$5,000, depends on what kind of foreigner are you.
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QUOTE(Eugenet @ Jan 5 2012, 05:18 PM)
QQ... I though we (Malaysians) need Bank Negara approval to open an account overseas?

I'm thinking of opening an account in Singapore for stock trading.
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which broker are you looking at? most charge around SGD25 per trade - very high, when you consider in the US per trade is around USD10.
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which broker are you looking at? most charge around SGD25 per trade - very high, when you consider in the US per trade is around USD10.
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There's a few brokers mentioned here somewhere, so I'll probably check them all out. The minimum SGD25 per trade is expensive but I'm not doing high frequency trades.
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QUOTE(Eugenet @ Jan 6 2012, 07:44 PM)
There's a few brokers mentioned here somewhere, so I'll probably check them all out. The minimum SGD25 per trade is expensive but I'm not doing high frequency trades.
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I did exactly what you intended to do. Here are my steps:

1. Find out which bank offers the lowest MINIMUM req for your saving account. For me was UOB at SGD 500. Anything less nets that nasty charge. Also must have internet banking.
2. Find out which trading firm you'd like to buy stocks with. For me was one with internet trading.
3. Find out what you need for items 1 and 2. E.g. IC photocopy, proof of residence in Msia (e.g. utility bill with your name on it- Streamyx and Astro usually don't count), referral letter from an existing account holder (for bank and for trading account) and the minimum amount of cash needed to open the account (this is in SGD)
4. Prepare transport and accomodation (if any) to SG.
5. Go during working days to BANK first to open your savings account. They will do a background check and the referral letter comes in handy (go ask your SG friends who have existing accounts there). Give them the SGD to set up the bank account- usually 1k SGD.
6. Get your account set up. You will get the ATM card, bank no, PIN etc (biasa stuff). Also get the international transfer codes from them (IBAN, SWIFT) and internet login (important!).
7. Go to the TRADING FIRM next to open your trading account and your CDP account set up. Give them the paper requirements and also your bank account number to tie in to the trading account and to your CDP (important for dividend payouts). You also need to deposit the minimum cash to your trading wallet. This sum here is quite hefty (could be around 5k SGD)
8. Once all paperwork done, go back home and have a good rest. CDP and the trading firm will mail you the access codes for online trading.

Congratulations you can now trade like a Singaporean from Malaysia!

Ps. To top up your trading account with more money, do international TT (telegraphic transfer) using the banking codes you got for your bank account. Internet banking can transfer the funds from the SG banking account to your SG trading account.

I have 1k SGD carried by cash (for the bank) and 5k SGD carried in form of *banker's cheque (for the trading account). *Normal cheque will not work! Banker's cheque/draft is a legit form of real cash- no owe owe.

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QUOTE(kaiserwulf @ Jan 6 2012, 10:54 PM)
I did exactly what you intended to do. Here are my steps:

1. Find out which bank offers the lowest MINIMUM req for your saving account. For me was UOB at SGD 500. Anything less nets that nasty charge. Also must have internet banking.
2. Find out which trading firm you'd like to buy stocks with. For me was one with internet trading.
3. Find out what you need for items 1 and 2. E.g. IC photocopy, proof of residence in Msia (e.g. utility bill with your name on it- Streamyx and Astro usually don't count), referral letter from an existing account holder (for bank and for trading account) and the minimum amount of cash needed to open the account (this is in SGD)
4. Prepare transport and accomodation (if any) to SG.
5. Go during working days to BANK first to open your savings account. They will do a background check and the referral letter comes in handy (go ask your SG friends who have existing accounts there). Give them the SGD to set up the bank account- usually 1k SGD.
6. Get your account set up. You will get the ATM card, bank no, PIN etc (biasa stuff). Also get the international transfer codes from them (IBAN, SWIFT) and internet login (important!).
7. Go to the TRADING FIRM next to open your trading account and your CDP account set up.  Give them the paper requirements and also your bank account number to tie in to the trading account and to your CDP (important for dividend payouts). You also need to deposit the minimum cash to your trading wallet. This sum here is quite hefty (could be around 5k SGD)
8. Once all paperwork done, go back home and have a good rest. CDP and the trading firm will mail you the access codes for online trading.

Congratulations you can now trade like a Singaporean from Malaysia!

Ps. To top up your trading account with more money, do international TT (telegraphic transfer) using the banking codes you got for your bank account. Internet banking can transfer the funds from the SG banking account to your SG trading account.

I have 1k SGD carried by cash (for the bank) and 5k SGD carried in form of *banker's cheque (for the trading account). *Normal cheque will not work! Banker's cheque/draft is a legit form of real cash- no owe owe.
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Kaiserwulf, it sounds like you've been doing SG stock trading for a while. Your detailed notes will prove very useful for first timers getting around and avoiding getting into problems. Thanks for your effort.



QUOTE(myasiahobby @ Jan 6 2012, 09:56 PM)
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There's a broker named Phillip Capital (I think it is http://www.phillip.com.sg/). However, I'll most likely go for OCBC for a couple reasons
- one-stop solution (you can open bank and trading a/c from the bank branch)
- some branches are open even on Saturdays


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For non-singaporeans, non-PR & jobless people, only DBS and UOB available? No standchart etc?
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QUOTE(TSOM @ Jan 8 2012, 11:18 PM)
For non-singaporeans, non-PR & jobless people, only DBS and UOB available? No standchart etc?
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Got, HSBC also got. E.g. HSBC has a minimum balance requirement of SGD5k. Good luck with that!
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Bank accounts
- Maybank SG is able to link with Maybank2u
- DBS bank is better for normal usage (as its more common for Singaporean, their TAC will be sent to our Malaysia phone without any charge) Free debit card (will mail to malaysia address without charge, no annual fee ) Just walk in to any branch with some money (double check on the minimal deposit)

Broker
- Philip Capital , last time manage to open an account with Malaysia IC in their shopping mall booth
- not sure about others..
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Bank accounts
- Maybank SG is able to link with Maybank2u
- DBS bank is better for normal usage (as its more common for Singaporean, their TAC will be sent to our Malaysia phone without any charge)  Free debit card (will mail to malaysia address without charge, no annual fee ) Just walk in to any branch  with some money (double check on the minimal deposit)

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- Philip Capital , last time manage to open an account with Malaysia IC in their shopping mall booth
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I am a Malaysian and soon working in Singapore. Now think where should I open a bank account.

I have though of Maybank cause I have some commitment here that I need to settle every month, and give my mom pocket money too biggrin.gif Does anybody know by chance if we could transfer money from mbb SG to mbb MY with no charge?
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QUOTE(Suju @ Mar 10 2012, 07:18 PM)
I am a Malaysian and soon working in Singapore. Now think where should I open a bank account.

I have though of Maybank cause I have some commitment here that I need to settle every month, and give my mom pocket money too biggrin.gif Does anybody know by chance if we could transfer money from mbb SG to mbb MY with no charge?
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no such thing as NO CHARGE laa..

but I would be interested to know what is the charges applicable to transfer SGD from my SG_MBB back to MY_MBB in MYR. Anyone could share ?
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QUOTE(Suju @ Mar 10 2012, 07:18 PM)
I am a Malaysian and soon working in Singapore. Now think where should I open a bank account.

I have though of Maybank cause I have some commitment here that I need to settle every month, and give my mom pocket money too biggrin.gif Does anybody know by chance if we could transfer money from mbb SG to mbb MY with no charge?
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Bro, some employer might give you referral letter for you to open account with specific bank.
Maybank SG and MY are different entity bro. Whatever transfer also have charge. Withdrawal from ATM in Ringgit after crossing into Johore will also be charged.
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QUOTE(Suju @ Mar 10 2012, 07:18 PM)
I am a Malaysian and soon working in Singapore. Now think where should I open a bank account.

I have though of Maybank cause I have some commitment here that I need to settle every month, and give my mom pocket money too biggrin.gif Does anybody know by chance if we could transfer money from mbb SG to mbb MY with no charge?
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you can always check at their website. SGD15 if not mistaken.
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QUOTE(wu ming @ May 11 2012, 02:47 PM)
Bro, some employer might give you referral letter for you to open account with specific bank.
Maybank SG and MY are different entity bro. Whatever transfer also have charge. Withdrawal from ATM in Ringgit after crossing into Johore will also be charged.
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No more worries about running short on cash or carrying excess money when you are travelling in the region.

With Maybank Platinum Debit Card and ATM Card, you can withdraw cash in local currency from over 2,800 Maybank ATMs in Brunei, Cambodia, Indonesia**, Malaysia and the Philippines!

RegionLink Cross Border ATM Cash Withdrawal is now FREE!
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No need , just bring IC & passport can d. DBS bank now min requrement is 1k Sing, and they pay  0.05% interest....
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Since DBS/POSB had changed their requirement, actually I opened long ago am I still entitle for the balance fall below RM500, a fee of SGD$2 will imposed or the follow the old rules?
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Reviving old thread... can I open SG UOB bank account through MY UOB bank account?
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QUOTE(chopper~ @ May 30 2010, 09:31 PM)
hi all, im a malaysian, not studyin nor working in sg, can i open a bank account in singapore??
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Minimum deposit s$500 or they will charge maintainance fee tongue.gif
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Minimum deposit s$500 or they will charge maintainance fee tongue.gif
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even in OUB?
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QUOTE(Selectt @ Nov 19 2012, 10:08 PM)
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Yes. And it is one the lowest in Singapore already. The other two Singaporean banks require you to keep an average balance of S$1,000/month to avoid the account service fee. It used to be only S$500 only at DBS but foreigners are not allowed to open that account anymore.

Anyway, do bear in mind that if you do not work or live in Singapore, the bank reserves the rights to reject your application to open an account.
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QUOTE(jjsia @ Nov 19 2012, 11:02 PM)
You can search online for that info.  rclxub.gif
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tried searching the info... apparently only high networth of individual are likely to get to open bank account? for non-resident, non-pr, non-permit?

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Nov 19 2012, 11:06 PM)
Yes. And it is one the lowest in Singapore already. The other two Singaporean banks require you to keep an average balance of S$1,000/month to avoid the account service fee. It used to be only S$500 only at DBS but foreigners are not allowed to open that account anymore.

Anyway, do bear in mind that if you do not work or live in Singapore, the bank reserves the rights to reject your application to open an account.
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This is the info i gather from internet:

Non-resident foreigners may also open personal bank accounts but banks are usually reluctant to do so, the processes/criteria being more stringent. High networth non-resident foreigners may also have access to banks in Singapore via private banking channels.
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QUOTE(Selectt @ Nov 19 2012, 11:16 PM)
Non-resident foreigners may also open personal bank accounts but banks are usually reluctant to do so, the processes/criteria being more stringent.
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They will no doubt ask you why do you want to open a SG bank account when you do not work or live there.


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High networth non-resident foreigners may also have access to banks in Singapore via private banking channels.
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Not necessarily must be a Private Banking customer. Mass Affluent Banking customers such as HSBC Premier, Citibank CitiGold or Standard Chartered Priority Banking is another alternative to open a SG account.
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Nov 19 2012, 11:27 PM)
They will no doubt ask you why do you want to open a SG bank account when you do not work or live there.
Not necessarily must be a Private Banking customer. Mass Affluent Banking customers such as HSBC Premier, Citibank CitiGold or Standard Chartered Priority Banking is another alternative to open a SG account.
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Is there any way I can open a SG UOB account in Malaysia? I gona call UOB later.
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QUOTE(Selectt @ Nov 20 2012, 09:27 AM)
Is there any way I can open a SG UOB account in Malaysia? I gona call UOB later.
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QUOTE(Selectt @ Nov 20 2012, 09:27 AM)
Is there any way I can open a SG UOB account in Malaysia? I gona call UOB later.
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I know you can open a UOB Bank Singapore account without going to Singapore but i think it applies only to the UOB SG Privilege Account and UOB SG Private Banking Account. For normal account, you will still need to go to Singapore yourself but as i said earlier, there is no guarantee that they will open the account for you if it is a normal account. For UOB Privilege or UOB Private Banking Account, it usually is no problem and the opening of either of these two accounts can be done through email+DHL smile.gif

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lof courser cqn lq they have MAYBANK THERE TOO
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Nov 20 2012, 01:11 PM)
I know you can open a UOB Bank Singapore account without going to Singapore but i think it applies only to the UOB SG Privilege Account and UOB SG Private Banking Account. For normal account, you will still need to go to Singapore yourself but as i said earlier, there is no guarantee that they will open the account for you if it is a normal account. For UOB Privilege or UOB Private Banking Account, it usually is no problem and the opening of either of these two accounts can be done through email+DHL    smile.gif
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Here is the information:

Privilege account:

2. MEMBERSHIP
To qualify as a UOB Privilege Banking customer, you must maintain at all times a minimum required monthly cash deposit and/or investment balance of S$350,000 (or its equivalent in a foreign currency) as the Bank may decide from time to time in any of your accounts. brows.gif


Private account:

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Here is the information:

Privilege account: 

2. MEMBERSHIP
To qualify as a UOB Privilege Banking customer, you must maintain at all times a minimum required monthly cash deposit and/or investment balance of S$350,000 (or its equivalent in a foreign currency) as the Bank may decide from time to time in any of your accounts. brows.gif
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QUOTE(Selectt @ Nov 20 2012, 02:35 PM)
Private account:

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QUOTE(chopper~ @ May 30 2010, 09:31 PM)
hi all, im a malaysian, not studyin nor working in sg, can i open a bank account in singapore??
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for malaysian just need a passport and NRIC to open with local singaporean bank. international banks such as hsbc and citibank has stricker rules
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I currently use standard chartered for saving(higher interest) and trading(lowest commission), they claim can do internet transfer to msia sc account but I didn't try it.
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QUOTE(richloo @ Dec 30 2012, 07:43 AM)
I currently use standard chartered for saving(higher interest) and trading(lowest commission), they claim can do internet transfer to msia sc account but I didn't try it.
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what do you mean by can do internet transfer to Malaysia sc account? u mean we can't transfer to any other Malaysian bank other than sc?
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what do you mean by can do internet transfer to Malaysia sc account? u mean we can't transfer to any other Malaysian bank other than sc?
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I am not sure, you have to find out. I guess you save the TT cost, just pay the FX spread.
http://www.standardchartered.com.sg/person...ine-banking/en/
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Hi guys,

To to share this comparison done on 22-jan-13.

I would say UOB would be a better choice, as it has a low min balance before the fees are applied.

To add on something which isn't listed. Opening of bank accounts in SG MUST have a working pass and subject to banks approval.


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confused here. so is it can or cannot for foreigner with no PR/permit to open an account there?
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QUOTE(jex-koi @ Jan 22 2013, 10:21 AM)
To add on something which isn't listed. Opening of bank accounts in SG MUST have a working pass and subject to banks approval.
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then which bank in SG will allow you to open w/o working pass or other passes (e.g. S-pass) ?
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Jan 22 2013, 03:52 PM)
That is not true.
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Singapore has tighten the conditions for foreigner to open an account since last year. Now it is quite dfficult to open a savings account even you have a work permit. PR still ok.
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QUOTE(RyanNet @ Jan 25 2013, 01:47 AM)
Singapore has tighten the conditions for foreigner to open an account since last year. Now it is quite dfficult to open a savings account even you have a work permit. PR still ok.
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Still not entirely true. Singapore after all, is still one of the biggest offshore banking centres in the world and it still aims to be the preferred offshore banking centre to foreigners. It is still very easy for foreigners with no work permit or right of abode to open an account. Just the the minimum deposit they may request from you is not just the usual $250, $1000 or $5000.

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Then I should rephrase: Now It is only rich foreigner can open accounts
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My friend wan to open the account with sgd 400k get rejected by the bank. He is neither work nor live in Singapore.the bank is DBS. could anyone let me know what is the reason ya?
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QUOTE(skycs @ Jan 29 2013, 11:21 AM)
My friend wan to open the account with sgd 400k get rejected by the bank. He is neither work nor live in Singapore.the bank is DBS. could anyone let me know what is the reason ya?
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Can't comment anything on why they turned your friend down. But there are many other banks he can try and Citibank Singapore is one of the many options available. They have a special division for offshore banking and the minimum deposit is only USD5,000. But since your friend has SGD400,000, they will most likely suggest him to open a Citibank IPB Singapore Citigold account instead. These giant international banks also prefer to open this kind of big account, hence the chance of your friend to be able to open this account is brighter as well.
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i went to DBS for open account, i hv pass here.so no problem.
but i also see in the borchure, there is an option for foreigner who doesnt hold any visa to open an account there.

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Checked with hsbc, maybank, uob, and dbs. Only hsbc, maybank, and uob gave a consistent answer of needing some sort of work permit/passes or requirements listed on their website.

As for dbs, the requirements on the website seems to be a 'guideline' for dbs branches. Meaning the dbs branches will have their own requirements if foreigners want to open a bank acc.

I personally went to a few branches, and some needed work permit/passes, while some needed other bank statements. Finally, i found the MBFC branch which only needs the passport (like what is stated on the website) and does NOT need any work permit/passes.

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My friend wan to open the account with sgd 400k get rejected by the bank. He is neither work nor live in Singapore.the bank is DBS. could anyone let me know what is the reason ya?
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There are forms to fill up to state the intent of opening the account, together with an 'interview'. Why not try HSBC SG premier account ? The HSBC staff told me that a min of SGD70k is needed to open the account, and no work permit/pass is needed. Or if your friend has a HSBC MY premier account, he/she can open an account with HSBC SG too. Not sure whether there is an 'interview' before one is allowed to open the bank acc.
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QUOTE(jex-koi @ Feb 27 2013, 08:55 AM)
to share my  personal exp.

Checked with hsbc, maybank, uob, and dbs. Only hsbc, maybank, and uob gave a consistent answer of needing some sort of work permit/passes or requirements listed on their website.

As for dbs, the requirements on the website seems to be a 'guideline' for dbs branches. Meaning the dbs branches will have their own requirements if foreigners want to open a bank acc.

I personally went to a few branches, and some needed work permit/passes, while some needed other bank statements. Finally, i found the MBFC branch which only needs the passport (like what is stated on the website) and does NOT need any work permit/passes.
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Hi,
Wanna ask is the DBS need initial deposit?
The website is stated no need any...is it true?
http://www.dbs.com.sg/personal/deposit/esa...equirement.page

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QUOTE(pizza0502 @ Feb 27 2013, 04:50 PM)
Hi,
Wanna ask is the DBS need initial deposit?
The website is stated no need any...is it true?
http://www.dbs.com.sg/personal/deposit/esa...equirement.page

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Yes, you are correct. No deposit is required when opening the account. Only deposit $ after acc is opened.

But you need to maintain a (average) balance of SGD 5k, else they will charge SGD2 per month (Translates to ~ RM 5 a month).
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QUOTE(jex-koi @ Feb 28 2013, 03:25 PM)
Yes, you are correct. No deposit is required when opening the account. Only deposit $ after acc is opened.

But you need to maintain a (average) balance of SGD 5k, else they will charge SGD2 per month (Translates to ~ RM 5 a month).
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Is it a MUST to deposit $ after the acc is opened? Can I leave it empty now as i'll only start work from March. Probably will get salary on end of March.

Is it OK to open the account now?

Thanks.
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QUOTE(jex-koi @ Feb 27 2013, 08:55 AM)
to share my  personal exp.

Checked with hsbc, maybank, uob, and dbs. Only hsbc, maybank, and uob gave a consistent answer of needing some sort of work permit/passes or requirements listed on their website.

As for dbs, the requirements on the website seems to be a 'guideline' for dbs branches. Meaning the dbs branches will have their own requirements if foreigners want to open a bank acc.

I personally went to a few branches, and some needed work permit/passes, while some needed other bank statements. Finally, i found the MBFC branch which only needs the passport (like what is stated on the website) and does NOT need any work permit/passes.
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QUOTE(jex-koi @ Feb 27 2013, 09:00 AM)
There are forms to fill up to state the intent of opening the account, together with  an 'interview'. Why not try HSBC SG premier account  ? The HSBC staff told me that a min of SGD70k is needed to open the account, and no work permit/pass is needed.
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SGD70k ? I believe that is for a normal HSBC SG offshore account. For HSBC SG offshore Premier account, the minimum deposit is SGD200k.


QUOTE(jex-koi @ Feb 27 2013, 09:00 AM)
Or if your friend has a HSBC MY premier account, he/she can open an account with HSBC SG too. Not sure whether there is an 'interview' before one is allowed to open the bank acc.
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No. There is no interview. One doesn't even have to go to Singapore personally just to open the account. Your Premier RM in Malaysia can get everything done for you from your home branch here in Malaysia.
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How easy is it to TT money to your bank account in SG?
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No restrictions, for transfer over RM 10K, need to declare purpose to BNM (at bottom of TT form).
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No restrictions, for transfer over RM 10K, need to declare purpose to BNM (at bottom of TT form).
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Thanks mate

Gonna start a trading account over there with a bank........   smile.gif
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Then declare the purpose as 'investment' and source as 'savings'. So far transfer lots of time no problem...

Please also note that some banks in SG will deduct a small amount as incoming TT 'fees'. Mine is SGD 12/TT.

Most of time I just bring cash across the causeway... (not more than SGD 20k, otherwise have to declare)

P/S what trading you doing? laugh.gif

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 21 2013, 11:20 AM)
Then declare the purpose as 'investment' and source as 'savings'. So far transfer lots of time no problem...

Please also note that some banks in SG will deduct a small amount as incoming TT 'fees'. Mine is SGD 12/TT.

Most of time I just bring cash across the causeway... (not more than SGD 20k, otherwise have to declare)

P/S what trading you doing?  laugh.gif
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How much is the charges if I transfer money to Malaysia bank with DBS iBanking ?
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Bump...

I wanna open an account too in sg...


Posb,uob,ocbc rejected cause need work or student permit ..
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You should be able to open a Singapore bank account without having to enter Singapore. maybe you want to read this:
http://www.entersingapore.info/relocation/banking.php
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all right
since non pr / work permit can get to open in DBS

are there DBS operating on saturday?

thinking to drive down to there and get the account done
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all right
since non pr / work permit can get to open in DBS

are there DBS operating on saturday?

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Yes they opened on a Sat. I just opened my account at a POSB branch two weekends ago on a Saturday. I went there early at around 9am. It was easy to open, just produce Malaysian IC. They did not even ask for a passport. I opened with SGD500. If less than SGD5000, you will need to pay SGD2 per month or SGD24 per year.

They issued me a Debit card and also activate internet access. Very fast and done within 30 minutes.

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Mmmm....my experience was different then... I have EP, opened acc at OCBC Sg, they say need me to provide a mailing address as a prove i stay there in SG....Minimum SGD1k to open...if less than that will charge me......

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Yes they opened on a Sat.  I just opened my account at a POSB branch two weekends ago on a Saturday.  I went there early at around 9am.  It was easy to open, just produce Malaysian IC. They did not even ask for a passport. I opened with SGD500.  If less than SGD5000, you will need to pay SGD2 per month or SGD24 per year.

They issued me a Debit card and also activate internet access. Very fast and done within 30 minutes.
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Without work permit? which POSB branch you mentioned? Orchard Road?

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Without work permit? which POSB branch you mentioned? Orchard Road?
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I went to Clementi Ave 3 branch. Yes I don't have work permit. I work in KL but travel to Singapore about 4-5 times a year.

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I went to Clementi Ave 3 branch. Yes I don't have work permit.  I work in KL but travel to Singapore about 4-5 times a year.
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Oh i see... Thanks for your reply.

I have to deposit SGD 5,000 to avoid a monthly SGD2 maintenance fee sad.gif

I will try to get a HSBC Singapore saving account since i'm an existing HSBC customer (MY). Hopefully not get rejected by HSBC Singapore sad.gif
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I tried to open SG account - initially was planning on DBS Bank, however they outright rejected due to me not having a work permit (more than 1 branch)

OCBC also rejected, but when I mentioned I was interested in buying Unit Trusts they quickly changed their tone whistling.gif (although not interesting, 5% sales charge!!). So I went into another branch and mentioned I wanted to open a OCBC Securities trading account, then they gave me a savings account / debit card on the spot - took less than 30 minutes thumbup.gif

If balance drops below 1k, 2sgd/month charge. Otherwise free

(BTW, not Malaysian - holding European passport)

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which bank will be easier tp opeen account in sg? DBS or OCBC?
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Went SG last weekend. DBS Toa Payoh, POSB Toa Payoh & DBS AMK Hub rejected outright. No pass no talk.

Went to Citibank & the response is $20k SGD to open an account. They mentioned only ONE branch can do. Forgot what name already. X square.
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Just open one for my wife last month. Hai getting harder now. I also dare not give specific tip sked to spoil market.

The tips for opening with no pass non resident is you must be perfectly prepared before even step in the bank. Read from website of your target bank, contact customer service to find out requirements and prepare all documents then go the bank.

This tips only for kecik molek ppl like us. Rich guys anytime can open private accounts... millions of sgd one la.

Upper class but not that rich can open via international banks such as hsbc. Can say the rates are suitable for 5 digit sgd and above.

Good luck.
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QUOTE(kaiserwulf @ Dec 31 2014, 01:37 PM)
Just open one for my wife last month. Hai getting harder now. I also dare not give specific tip sked to spoil market.

The tips for opening with no pass non resident is you must be perfectly prepared before even step in the bank. Read from website of your target bank, contact customer service to find out requirements and prepare all documents then go the bank.

This tips only for kecik molek ppl like us. Rich guys anytime can open private accounts... millions of sgd one la.

Upper class but not that rich can open via international banks such as hsbc. Can say the rates are suitable for 5 digit sgd and above.

Good luck.
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Every branch I visited initially rejected me (European, living in Malaysia) until I expressed interest in Unit Trust to OCBC. Then suddenly this became a "good reason" to open an account to them.

So I went along to another branch and started with "I want to open an OCBC securities account" (didn't want to buy UT through OCBC, high charges) and no problem, account opened and online banking, VISA debit card within 30 minutes smile.gif

Haven't actually used the OCBC securities account yet biggrin.gif

Edit : Ooops, didn't realise I posted above in this thread already ..

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Went SG last weekend. DBS Toa Payoh, POSB Toa Payoh & DBS AMK Hub rejected outright. No pass no talk.

Went to Citibank & the response is $20k SGD to open an account. They mentioned only ONE branch can do. Forgot what name already. X square.
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Citi IPB capital square branch i believe. Did you managed to open with them?
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actually need a Singapore bank a/c to credit my SREIT dividend(been losing too much money to CIMB admin fees lol $10/quarter).so it seems if you say you are interested in opening a Securities A/c,they will allow to open a bank a/c?
any minimum deposit?
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actually need a Singapore bank a/c to credit my SREIT dividend(been losing too much money to CIMB admin fees lol $10/quarter).so it seems if you say you are interested in opening a Securities A/c,they will allow to open a bank a/c?
any minimum deposit?
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i m interested in the subject...

sgd10 for sgreit div, cimb... meaning u r on cimb itrade sgd nominee account, right?

i never asked the question but i think for nominee acc, there will be a sgd10 charge for every div if u opt for cash,whether their trust acc or yr own sg bank acc. do u know otherwise?

i wud think u can avoid paying the sgd10 only if u have own direct trading acc n forwarding address in sg.

of course, annother scenario is opting for reinvestment if available - this one no charge but comes with odd lot issue...

pls share if u know more as some point in time, i will have to open sg bank acc too. thanks.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 4 2015, 02:14 PM)
i m interested in the subject...

sgd10 for sgreit div, cimb... meaning u r on cimb itrade sgd nominee account, right?

i never asked the question but i think for nominee acc, there will be a sgd10 charge for every div if u opt for cash,whether their trust acc or yr own sg bank acc. do u know otherwise?

i wud think u can avoid paying the sgd10 only if u have own direct trading acc n forwarding address in sg.

of course, annother scenario is opting for reinvestment if available - this one no charge but comes with odd lot issue...

pls share if u know more as some point in time, i will have to open sg bank acc too. thanks.
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yes im on cimb itrade sgd nominee a/c.i once asked Hong Leong Investment how much is their charge and its SGD6 + RM$10(not much of a difference)
yes you are correct,nominee a/c there will be sgd10 charge
so i am looking at the possibility of opening my own bank a/c in singapore,as well as a direct trading a/c and transfer over my current shares with CIMB to my own direct trading a/c(one time transfer fee applicable though $10.70 per 1000 shares but still better than $40 go to CIMB every year)

currently looking whether its possible to open an OCBC account.i went to Singapore few months back,only enquired at Standard Chartered but not OCBC

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yes im on cimb itrade sgd nominee a/c.i once asked Hong Leong Investment how much is their charge and its SGD6 + RM$10(not much of a difference)
yes you are correct,nominee a/c there will be sgd10 charge
so i am looking at the possibility of opening my own bank a/c in singapore,as well as a direct trading a/c and transfer over my current shares with CIMB to my own direct trading a/c(one time transfer fee applicable though $10.70 per 1000 shares but still better than $40 go to CIMB every year)

currently looking whether its possible to open an OCBC account.i went to Singapore few months back,only enquired at Standard Chartered but not OCBC
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thanks for info.

pls share more when u finally get round to it.

i may want to do the same in a year's time or 2.

the difficulty may be the sg bank and/or broker will need a local mailing and tel no. as i doubt they will bother to contact u if outside sg. the question then is email n online access be adequate?

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 4 2015, 07:49 PM)
thanks for info.

pls share more when u finally get round to it.

i may want to do the same in a year's time or 2.

the difficulty may be the sg bank and/or broker will need a local mailing and tel no. as i doubt they will bother to contact u if outside sg. the question then is email n online access be adequate?
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Broker confirm no need. I still get mail from SGX and my broker. SG bank so far my wife and mine account use Malaysian address. We do online transfer etc.

I bet you are not a rich man. cool2.gif No free lunch in this world- no singaporean will fly to KL meet you and give you your bank account.

So you need to walk in to a Singaporean branch to open account.
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Hi guys,

I am planning to visit Singapore and open a bank account there. I am not working there nor studying there.

I heard that their rules is tighten. Is there anyone open account this year or recently?
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Hi guys,

I am planning to visit Singapore and open a bank account there. I am not working there nor studying there.

I heard that their rules is tighten. Is there anyone open account this year or recently?
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so how was it? i plan to do so?


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Just open a securities trading account. They will give u a saving account also to deposit and withdraw money
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Just open a securities trading account. They will give u a saving account also to deposit and withdraw money
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Same method I used - didn't take long, was just over a year ago now. Never used OCBC securities and savings account is functioning as it should smile.gif
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Ops I forget to update managed to open a DBS account as I also intended to open a DBS vickers share trading. $3,000 balance otherwise $5 fall below fee per month.the good thing is it's a multiplier account and I can also keep other currencies like AUD which earns me 0.75% interest
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Same method I used - didn't take long, was just over a year ago now. Never used OCBC securities and savings account is functioning as it should smile.gif
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Thats mean really have to physically travel to SG to do so?
Got others option? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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Thats mean really have to physically travel to SG to do so?
Got others option?  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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go once to SG to open also problem? shakehead.gif
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go once to SG to open also problem?  shakehead.gif
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Just think since ady travel there...tempted wanna holidays there also.
but holidays in SG ady like holidays in Australia ady.. cry.gif cry.gif
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Opened one at DBS bank branch at Marina Bay Financial Centre.

You have to open securities trading account with it.

I opened one after GE 13. I realised how bad gerrymandering was and how screwed I will be if s**t hits the fan.

My vote piled up uselessly in an urban seat with big majority while rural seats with small majority are the ones that matter.

My advice is opening a Singaporean account is not worth it if less than SGD 30k. Interest rate is low so you have to invest in stock market (e.g. REIT or ETF).

You need 1 or 2 times cash collateral to SELL your shares due to how CDP is setup.
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My advice is opening a Singaporean account is not worth it if less than SGD 30k. Interest rate is low so you have to invest in stock market (e.g. REIT or ETF).
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It depends on what is the goal of this A/C. If RM depreciate, even at 0% interest rate, it might be worth it.

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Opened one at DBS bank branch at Marina Bay Financial Centre.

You have to open securities trading account with it.

I opened one after GE 13. I realised how bad gerrymandering was and how screwed I will be if s**t hits the fan.

My vote piled up uselessly in an urban seat with big majority while rural seats with small majority are the ones that matter.

My advice is opening a Singaporean account is not worth it if less than SGD 30k. Interest rate is low so you have to invest in stock market (e.g. REIT or ETF).

You need 1 or 2 times cash collateral to SELL your shares due to how CDP is setup.
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Can you please elaborate on what you mean by that? If you have already paid for the shares in your CDP, why do you need cash in your account to sell?
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 15 2015, 11:55 PM)
myr.medinsurance,

It depends on what is the goal of this A/C.  If RM depreciate, even at 0% interest rate, it might be worth it.

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The money in Singapore is going to be there for the long-term (unless things go south in Malaysia) so how it appreciate to Ringgit is less important than beating inflation in Singapore. For now, just dollar cost averaging on STI ETF.

They are going to have Singapore Savings Bond soon. This will give fixed deposits in DBS bank a run for their money.

QUOTE(aspartame @ Aug 16 2015, 01:23 AM)
Can you please elaborate on what you mean by that? If you have already paid for the shares in your CDP, why do you need cash in your account to sell?
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CDP accounts in Singapore is unique to each person. One CDP account can be linked to multiple brokerage accounts (e.g. buy with DBS Vickers and sell with Kim Eng). Once you buy through one brokerage and settle cost, the security is transferred to your CDP account. Your brokerage account has no idea that you still have the stock, so you might be short-selling when you sell any stock.

Since you are not working in SG, they will want cash collateral.

Might be different for others but this is the case for me.

Anybody who has DBS-Vickers account that can sell without collateral, let me know. I buy stock cash upfront.
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QUOTE(myr.medinsurance @ Aug 16 2015, 09:22 AM)
The money in Singapore is going to be there for the long-term (unless things go south in Malaysia) so how it appreciate to Ringgit is less important than beating inflation in Singapore. For now, just dollar cost averaging on STI ETF.

They are going to have Singapore Savings Bond soon. This will give fixed deposits in DBS bank a run for their money.
CDP accounts in Singapore is unique to each person. One CDP account can be linked to multiple brokerage accounts (e.g. buy with DBS Vickers and sell with Kim Eng). Once you buy through one brokerage and settle cost, the security is transferred to your CDP account. Your brokerage account has no idea that you still have the stock, so you might be short-selling when you sell any stock.

Since you are not working in SG, they will want cash collateral.

Might be different for others but this is the case for me.

Anybody who has DBS-Vickers account that can sell without collateral, let me know. I buy stock cash upfront.
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I personally use Standard chartered's trading service. The commission is 0.20%, and there is no minimum commission charge, which is good if you are buying small quantities. Stan Chart will act as a custodian for your shares, so CDP is not required, and no collateral required.

Downside is (from what i heard), the platform is not very stable, and may have outages sometimes, so this will affect people who trade heavily. Also the interface does not have as much functions as other trading platforms. But if you are just holding STI ETF for the long term, is should be ok for you.

Also it has access to foreign markets as well.

Standard Chartered Online Equities Trading

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Looks great especially no custody fees.

Have they charged you any annual fee for account?

If non-resident is allowed to open bank account and trading account, may recommend to dad for diversification.

Were you a non-resident when you opened the account?


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Looks great especially no custody fees.

Have they charged you any annual fee for account?

If non-resident is allowed to open bank account and trading account, may recommend to dad for diversification.

Were you a non-resident when you opened the account?
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No Annual Fee as far as I know. you will have to open a savings account with them (E-Saver) with Min Balance 1K SGD. I was a resident when i opened the account, but i do not think non-resident should have an issue. Maybe you need a higher min balance.
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QUOTE(orangbulu @ Aug 16 2015, 11:51 AM)
No Annual Fee as far as I know. you will have to open a savings account with them (E-Saver) with Min Balance 1K SGD. I was a resident when i opened the account, but i do not think non-resident should have an issue. Maybe you need a higher min balance.
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Thank you for the info. Will let my dad know. It will be up to him to follow up on requirement and decide to proceed or not.

He has reached age to withdraw EPF but still keeps most of his money there.

If Zimbabwe levels of hyperinflation hits Malaysia (very, very unlikely), I can still rebound because I am young. It is the oldies that cannot take chances with their nest eggs.

You mentioning standard chartered trading account has jogged my mind back to end of 2013. I did consider Standard Chartered but did not find any examples of people who manage to open Standard Chartered bank account as non-resident in lowyat as opposed to DBS bank. Furthermore, I was a bit nervous about the fact that account is nominee account.

Since I am a small timer, may as well just go with DBS. Was caught out by how CDP is setup.

I remember I took the overnight KTM sleeper train to Singapore. It was RM 80 return for bunk.

You could arrive at early morning by sleeper, open account and take sleeper train back to KL. You don't even need to spend a night in Singapore.

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Thank you for the info. Will let my dad know. It will be up to him to follow up on requirement and decide to proceed or not.

He has reached age to withdraw EPF but still keeps most of his money there.

If Zimbabwe levels of hyperinflation hits Malaysia (very, very unlikely), I can still rebound because I am young. It is the oldies that cannot take chances with their nest eggs.

You mentioning standard chartered trading account has jogged my mind back to end of 2013. I did consider Standard Chartered but did not find any examples of people who manage to open Standard Chartered bank account as non-resident in lowyat as opposed to DBS bank. Furthermore, I was a bit nervous about the fact that account is nominee account.

Since I am a small timer, may as well just go with DBS. Was caught out by how CDP is setup.

I remember I took the overnight KTM sleeper train to Singapore. It was RM 80 return for bunk.

You could arrive at early morning by sleeper, open account and take sleeper train back to KL. You don't even need to spend a night in Singapore.
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Yea I agree, its better to check with a proper financial advisor before doing anything rash like transferring all your EPF savings to SG. I do not think its a good idea to transfer all your savings to SG if you are worried about Malaysia crashing. If Malaysia crashes, Singapore will be severely impacted as Malaysia is its major trading partner. You are better off putting your money in some other country/ currency

Lucky for me my hometown is in JB, we can just do day trip to SG
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Yes, you are correct. No deposit is required when opening the account. Only deposit $ after acc is opened.

But you need to maintain a (average) balance of SGD 5k, else they will charge SGD2 per month (Translates to ~ RM 5 a month).
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For a country well known for their financial instruments, this rule is kinda dumb..

It costs $24sgd a year to keep the account, that 5k invested into stock market will give you returns capable of covering this cost.. Why park the cash there? Better to reinvest it.
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QUOTE(orangbulu @ Aug 16 2015, 02:11 PM)
Yea I agree, its better to check with a proper financial advisor before doing anything rash like transferring all your EPF savings to SG. I do not think its a good idea to transfer all your savings to SG if you are worried about Malaysia crashing. If Malaysia crashes, Singapore will be severely impacted as Malaysia is its major trading partner. You are better off putting your money in some other country/ currency

Lucky for me my hometown is in JB, we can just do day trip to SG
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Thanks for the advice. Definitely not going to ask him to put everything in SG. Maybe 10% as a hedge. He will need to consult relevant people, I am just giving an alternative to him. Just does not feel right to put all your eggs in one basket. The world is changing so fast. One moment you are up, the next you are down.

Yeah, Singapore would be affected too. Just the degree it will be affected. Just that it is convenient. One train ride away. Same language, culture. Another alternative is us brokerage account. Not the best place for an old man's retirement savings.
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They are going to have Singapore Savings Bond soon. This will give fixed deposits in DBS bank a run for their money.
CDP accounts in Singapore is unique to each person. One CDP account can be linked to multiple brokerage accounts (e.g. buy with DBS Vickers and sell with Kim Eng). Once you buy through one brokerage and settle cost, the security is transferred to your CDP account. Your brokerage account has no idea that you still have the stock, so you might be short-selling when you sell any stock.

Since you are not working in SG, they will want cash collateral.

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I am interested to open a Singapore Savings Bond.

If I am unable to travel to Singapore , how can I open a CDP account? I have a saving account with POSB.

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I am interested to open a Singapore Savings Bond.

If I am unable to travel to Singapore , how can I open a CDP account? I have a saving account with POSB.
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I think you need to be there in person to open a CDP account.
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QUOTE(myr.medinsurance @ Aug 15 2015, 10:17 PM)
Opened one at DBS bank branch at Marina Bay Financial Centre.

You have to open securities trading account with it.

I opened one after GE 13. I realised how bad gerrymandering was and how screwed I will be if s**t hits the fan.

My vote piled up uselessly in an urban seat with big majority while rural seats with small majority are the ones that matter.

My advice is opening a Singaporean account is not worth it if less than SGD 30k. Interest rate is low so you have to invest in stock market (e.g. REIT or ETF).

You need 1 or 2 times cash collateral to SELL your shares due to how CDP is setup.
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i just opened one too at MBFC DBS in June
they wont let me open the normal savings a/c instead gave me a Multiplier account where you can deposit physical currencies of other countries and can convert them later to SGD(eg AUD balance earns 0.75%)

the reason i opened this account is to cut down on the CIMB dividend handling charge(before GST SGD10,after GST SGD10.60) from my single REIT holding
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Just open a securities trading account. They will give u a saving account also to deposit and withdraw money
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Do we need to pay anything in order to open a securities trading account ?

It's applied for all bank in Singapore ?

Not studying or working in Singapore.
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Do we need to pay anything in order to open a securities trading account ?

It's applied for all bank in Singapore ?

Not studying or working in Singapore.
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No need, but you need initial deposit for the saving acc
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No need, but you need initial deposit for the saving acc
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Oh okay 👌, how much likely the initial alike?

It can be any bank right?

So i just tell them i would like to open cds acc then automatically ill be able to open an saving account?

Will there be any t&c?

I remember my last visit, i was told that initial 5k sgd and monthly deposit 500 sgd for 15 year, if failed to do so will be penalty something, i can't recall... (UOB bank) for foreigner only.


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Oh okay 👌, how much likely the initial alike?

It can be any bank right? 

So i just tell them i would like to open cds acc then automatically ill be able to open an saving account?

Will there be any t&c?

I remember my last visit, i was told that initial 5k sgd and monthly deposit 500 sgd for 15 year, if failed to do so will be penalty something, i can't recall...  (UOB bank) for foreigner only.
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Depending on bank, initial should be between 1k - 3k SGD.

Whether you need CDP depends on the online trading platform. Most banks need CDP but there are some banks such as standard chartered that act as custodians for your shares where you dont need a CDP account.

Personally i would recommend standard chartered as they dont have a minimum commission and charge about .22% commission per trade. Other trading platforms also charge similar commissions with min 25SGD charge.Downside to this is that if you change to other brokers, you cannot transfer your share from custodian to them. You need to transfer from custodian to CDP and link the CDP to your new broker and there will be some charge for the transfer.

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QUOTE(orangbulu @ Sep 12 2015, 07:46 PM)
Depending on bank, initial should be between 1k - 3k SGD.

Whether you need CDP depends on the online trading platform. Most banks need CDP but there are some banks such as standard chartered that act as custodians for your shares where you dont need a CDP account.

Personally i would recommend standard chartered as they dont have a minimum commission and charge about .22% commission per trade. Other trading platforms also charge similar commissions with min 25SGD charge.Downside to this is that if you change to other brokers, you cannot transfer your share from custodian to them. You need to transfer from custodian to CDP and link the CDP to your new broker and there will be some charge for the transfer.

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Will there penalty us? if we open cdp account and we don't invest? Probably just credit fund for purchase on9, saving and etc

Standard chartered look fine but only valid to monitor via web, probably that's the reason haha 😂




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Will there penalty us?  if we open cdp account and we don't invest? Probably just credit fund for purchase on9, saving and etc

Standard chartered look fine but only valid to monitor via web, probably that's the reason haha 😂
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No Penalty. I opened my CDP account with DBS 5 years ago, never used it to buy shares. Make sure you have some transactions with your savings account every 2-3 years though, or it may be flagged for inactivity.
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No Penalty. I opened my CDP account with DBS 5 years ago, never used it to buy shares.  Make sure you have some transactions with your savings account every 2-3 years though, or it may be flagged for inactivity.
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Noted with thanks.

Transaction must be done via the counter/atm or via online will do ? to keep it active ?

If base on Malaysia ATM/Debit - will be inactive if you doesn't utilize it although you have made transfer or credit fund into the accounts via online.

Thanks.


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Noted with thanks.

Transaction must be done via the counter/atm or via online will do ? to keep it active ?

If base on Malaysia ATM/Debit - will be inactive if you doesn't utilize it although you have made transfer or credit fund into the accounts via online.

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Online should be ok
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Thank you for the info. Will let my dad know. It will be up to him to follow up on requirement and decide to proceed or not.

He has reached age to withdraw EPF but still keeps most of his money there.

If Zimbabwe levels of hyperinflation hits Malaysia (very, very unlikely), I can still rebound because I am young. It is the oldies that cannot take chances with their nest eggs.

You mentioning standard chartered trading account has jogged my mind back to end of 2013. I did consider Standard Chartered but did not find any examples of people who manage to open Standard Chartered bank account as non-resident in lowyat as opposed to DBS bank. Furthermore, I was a bit nervous about the fact that account is nominee account.

Since I am a small timer, may as well just go with DBS. Was caught out by how CDP is setup.

I remember I took the overnight KTM sleeper train to Singapore. It was RM 80 return for bunk.

You could arrive at early morning by sleeper, open account and take sleeper train back to KL. You don't even need to spend a night in Singapore.
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Good man,... bro,... rclxms.gif

I'm Hansel,.. not really active in this thread,.. just came across it today.

YES, just go with DBS, you can withdraw from almost anywhere when you are in Sgp, lots of ATMs all over the island. IF you have an acct with DBS Vickers, you can use the Cash Upfront facility to buy stocks. Minimum SGD 18 only, percentage I think around 0.18%. Lowest brokerage in Sgp, right ?

Recently, DBS has included Msia into its listing of banks where we can do an online TT to Malaysia, and there will be no fees for this TT. So you can move your money in and out without charges.

I would advise you to open a Maybank Singapore Acct too, then you would be able to convert RM into the SGD and TT to Maybank Singapore with only RM10.

Have you ever considered buying and holding SG REITs ?

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Good man,... bro,... rclxms.gif

I'm Hansel,.. not really active in this thread,.. just came across it today.

YES, just go with DBS, you can withdraw from almost anywhere when you are in Sgp, lots of ATMs all over the island. IF you have an acct with DBS Vickers, you can use the Cash Upfront facility to buy stocks. Minimum SGD 18 only, percentage I think around 0.18%. Lowest brokerage in Sgp, right ?

Recently, DBS has included Msia into its listing of banks where we can do an online TT to Malaysia, and there will be no fees for this TT. So you can move your money in and out without charges.

I would advise you to open a Maybank Singapore Acct too, then you would be able to convert RM into the SGD and TT to Maybank Singapore with only RM10.

Have you ever considered buying and holding SG REITs ?
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Yup DBS is the lowest by% at 0.18%, but there is a minimum charge of SGD 18. Stan chart does not have a minimum and charges 0.20%. Therefore if you use DBS you need at least SGD 9000 per trade to break even (both buying and selling). For me i am a small time trader ~ 2-3k SGD per trade so i went with Stan Chart

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Yup DBS is the lowest by% at 0.18%, but there is a minimum charge of SGD 18. Stan chart does not have a minimum and charges 0.20%. Therefore if you use DBS you need at least SGD 9000 per trade to break even (both buying and selling). For me i am a small time trader ~ 2-3k SGD per trade so i went with Stan Chart
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Good analysis there,.. I never realized that we needed SGD9K to breakeven...

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 17 2015, 12:28 PM)
Good man,... bro,... rclxms.gif

I'm Hansel,.. not really active in this thread,.. just came across it today.

YES, just go with DBS, you can withdraw from almost anywhere when you are in Sgp, lots of ATMs all over the island. IF you have an acct with DBS Vickers, you can use the Cash Upfront facility to buy stocks. Minimum SGD 18 only, percentage I think around 0.18%. Lowest brokerage in Sgp, right ?

Recently, DBS has included Msia into its listing of banks where we can do an online TT to Malaysia, and there will be no fees for this TT. So you can move your money in and out without charges.

I would advise you to open a Maybank Singapore Acct too, then you would be able to convert RM into the SGD and TT to Maybank Singapore with only RM10.

Have you ever considered buying and holding SG REITs ?
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Hey Hansel,

Thanks for the info regards the TT - via Bank - ( bank rate ) isn't that bit expensive ?

Do we need to declare ? if any amount above 10kUSD or something ? if not mistaken i listed on the BNM ruling. ( In / Out) per day limitation ?

I think any amount above 50k there will be slight check through the account.

If that's the case probably we could just partially credit our fund yet no exceeding 10k USD tongue.gif.


Btw were you guy's work in financial institute ? Hansel / orangbulu ?

You guys seems bit experience in placing share's , mind share me some sweet and candy smile.gif so that i enjoy aswell tongue.gif





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Hey Hansel,

Thanks for the info regards the TT - via Bank - ( bank rate ) isn't that bit expensive ?

Do we need to declare ? if any amount above 10kUSD  or something ? if not mistaken i listed on the BNM ruling. ( In / Out) per day limitation ?

I think any amount above 50k there will be slight check through the account.

If that's the case probably we could just partially credit our fund yet no exceeding 10k USD tongue.gif.
Btw were you guy's work in financial institute ? Hansel / orangbulu ?

You guys seems bit experience in placing share's , mind share me some sweet and candy smile.gif so that i enjoy aswell tongue.gif
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I work in FMCG industry, Supply Chain/ operations work. 0 finance experience.

I bought some shares on SGX and did my research on the brokerages, therefore i can share my experience with you. Also I used to work in SG and majority of my money is in SG, which is why i know a bit about Singapore banking in general.

My personal opinion is that Bursa stocks are in general better than SGX. SGX probably only has 30-50 companies worth looking into. Too many penny shares from China. If i were living in Malaysia and want to diversify, I would buy US stocks instead.
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I work in FMCG industry, Supply Chain/ operations work. 0 finance experience.

I bought some shares on SGX and did my research on the brokerages, therefore i can share my experience with you. Also I used to work in SG and majority of my money is in SG, which is why i know a bit about Singapore banking in general.

My personal opinion is that Bursa stocks are in general better than SGX. SGX probably only has 30-50 companies worth looking into. Too many penny shares from China. If i were living in Malaysia and want to diversify, I would buy US stocks instead.
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What about S-reits?
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Hey Hansel,

Thanks for the info regards the TT - via Bank - ( bank rate ) isn't that bit expensive ?

Do we need to declare ? if any amount above 10kUSD  or something ? if not mistaken i listed on the BNM ruling. ( In / Out) per day limitation ?

I think any amount above 50k there will be slight check through the account.

If that's the case probably we could just partially credit our fund yet no exceeding 10k USD tongue.gif.
Btw were you guy's work in financial institute ? Hansel / orangbulu ?

You guys seems bit experience in placing share's , mind share me some sweet and candy smile.gif so that i enjoy aswell tongue.gif
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Hi Qwister,...

Well, that's the rate I've been using all this while.

YES, you need to declare that you do not have loans inside the country if you are going to select 'Investments' as the reason that you are sending your funds overseas. This is in the Form P.

If you going to use the reason of paying for a purchase, you need to show the invoice from the overseas supplier.

I am in the legal industry.

Hoped to be able to advise more in future,... smile.gif
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I work in FMCG industry, Supply Chain/ operations work. 0 finance experience.

I bought some shares on SGX and did my research on the brokerages, therefore i can share my experience with you. Also I used to work in SG and majority of my money is in SG, which is why i know a bit about Singapore banking in general.

My personal opinion is that Bursa stocks are in general better than SGX. SGX probably only has 30-50 companies worth looking into. Too many penny shares from China. If i were living in Malaysia and want to diversify, I would buy US stocks instead.
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I invest into the SGX and into other foreign bourses too. I agree that we have to be careful of the penny stocks listed in the SGX,... should stay away from them.

I am an income investor, not so much of a trader. Do you know what is the biggest advantage of investing into SG dividend stocks compared to investing into dividend stocks in the Bursa, and into US mkts ?

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Hi Qwister,...

Well, that's the rate I've been using all this while.

YES, you need to declare that you do not have loans inside the country if you are going to select 'Investments' as the reason that you are sending your funds overseas. This is in the Form P.

If you going to use the reason of paying for a purchase, you need to show the invoice from the overseas supplier.

I am in the legal industry.

Hoped to be able to advise more in future,... smile.gif
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Hi Hansel,

Do you know what is the max amount we can transfer if the purpose is for investment overseas? Must this payment be made to an investment brokerage account then? What about transfer to own account overseas and the purpose is for investment later? rclxub.gif


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Sorry I have not really read too much into reits to give comments. But seems to me that reits dont perform too well in a rising interest environment, as they are generally highly leveraged? Then again... we dont know when US will actually raise rates... they just delayed again.
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 17 2015, 10:39 PM)
I invest into the SGX and into other foreign bourses too. I agree that we have to be careful of the penny stocks listed in the SGX,... should stay away from them.

I am an income investor, not so much of a trader. Do you know what is the biggest advantage of investing into SG dividend stocks compared to investing into dividend stocks in the Bursa, and into US mkts ?
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The reason I invest in SGX is that the majority of my wealth is in SG, and I do intend to settle down in SG for the long term.

I guess the advantage of SG stocks vs US stocks, is that dividends and capital gains are tax exempt. For US Stocks you pay 30% tax.

As for SG vs MY exchanges, i think that Singapore stocks derive a majority of their income from SEA/ Asia pacific, as they dont really have a domestic market, whereas for Malaysia, majority of their income is still from domestic markets. Do correct me if I am wrong on this. But like I said above, If i were living in Malaysia, i would have use US stocks to diversify instead of SG.

You guys give me way too much credit... im not a big time investor... just so happen to have a brokerage account in Singapore sweat.gif
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Hi Hansel,

Do you know what is the max amount we can transfer if the purpose is for investment overseas? Must this payment be made to an investment brokerage account then? What about transfer to own account overseas and the purpose is for investment later? rclxub.gif
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Hi Brandon,... you have asked the million-dollar question. I really don't know. I have always 'ducked below' a certain cutoff amount and there has been no questions asked of me. I filled-in the Form P and submitted it together with my TT Form.

I wonder if anybody has had any experience with the financial authorities when they tried to TT out, say,... RM100K equivalent in one single TT Form ?


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QUOTE(orangbulu @ Sep 18 2015, 06:58 AM)
The reason I invest in SGX is that the majority of my wealth is in SG, and I do intend to settle down in SG for the long term.

I guess the advantage of SG stocks vs US stocks, is that dividends and capital gains are tax exempt. For US Stocks you pay 30% tax.

As for SG vs MY exchanges, i think that Singapore stocks derive a majority of their income from SEA/ Asia pacific, as they dont really have a domestic market, whereas for Malaysia, majority of their income is still from domestic markets. Do correct me if I am wrong on this. But like I said above, If i were living in Malaysia, i would have use US stocks to diversify instead of SG.

You guys give me way too much credit... im not a big time investor... just so happen to have a brokerage account in Singapore  sweat.gif
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That's right. The withholding tax !

As an income investor, I beg to differ on using US stocks to diversify instead of SG stocks. As someone who has experienced both types, I must say I more returns from and feel more comfortable with SG dividend stocks than US dividend stocks.

One thing I can see is that over the years, the SGD has always been on an appreciating trend against many currencies of the world (perhaps due to the fact that they use exchange rate to manage their policies and not interest rates).

On the other hand though the USD has appreciated significantly against the rest of the world currencies, we know what happened to the USD back in 2008 till 2010.

My experience tells me, till now, one cannot go wrong with the SGD.
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Where do you guys put your idling SGD while awaiting for opportunities to go into the mkt ?
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Where do you guys put your idling SGD while awaiting for opportunities to go into the mkt ?
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Non-fd method. Open a standard chartered esaver account and ocbc 360 account. Both give "high" interest but the caveat is fresh funds only. Keep transferring between both accounts 1st day of the month. Can yield 1% Haha...


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Non-fd method.  Open a standard chartered esaver account and ocbc 360 account. Both give "high" interest but the caveat is fresh funds only. Keep transferring between both accounts 1st day of the month. Can yield 1% Haha...
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Tq hairy,... notworthy.gif ... appreciated your replies. What about the new Sgp Gov't Securities called the Sgp Savings Bonds (SSB) ? Any experience with that ? Can we get if we bid ?
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What about the new Sgp Gov't Securities called the Sgp Savings Bonds (SSB) ? Any experience with that ? Can we get if we bid ?
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saw the FAQ. it's says Singaporeans sad.gif

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Non-fd method.  Open a standard chartered esaver account and ocbc 360 account. Both give "high" interest but the caveat is fresh funds only. Keep transferring between both accounts 1st day of the month. Can yield 1% Haha...
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1% per month or total of 1% per year? Big difference. 1% per month = 12% year.

Care to give example? So when I have a Singapore account, can do that. Hehe...
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saw the FAQ. it's says Singaporeans  sad.gif
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I see,... that door is closed to us then, even though we have local accounts inside Sgp. Tq for the clarification...
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Any advise on how to transfer large sums to Singapore account..say over the limit of 10,000usd.

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Any advise on how to transfer large sums to Singapore account..say over the limit of 10,000usd.

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1% per month or total of 1% per year? Big difference. 1% per month = 12% year.

Care to give example? So when I have a Singapore account, can do that. Hehe...
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Per year la.... per month i wont be in stock market d haha

I say its high because normal saving account in Singapore give .05% PA

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1% per month or total of 1% per year? Big difference. 1% per month = 12% year.

Care to give example? So when I have a Singapore account, can do that. Hehe...
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Bro,... 12% only when the sky falls in Sgp,... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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Any advise on how to transfer large sums to Singapore account..say over the limit of 10,000usd.
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1) Transfer 5 times using Maybank2U online on five different days OR,.....tips >>>>>>>>> within the same day from 5 different accounts.

2) Transfer at one go using TT Form via a branch, fill-in Form P and provide whatever other documents they ask of you.

Try the second method and update us. It's more expensive and slower using the first method.

Edited : wrong calculation earlier.

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1) Transfer 5 times using Maybank2U online on five different days OR,.....tips >>>>>>>>> within the same day from 5 different accounts.

2) Transfer at one go using TT Form via a branch, fill-in Form P and provide whatever other documents they ask of you.

Try the second method and update us. It's more expensive and slower using the first method.

Edited : wrong calculation earlier.
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Would that trigger suspicion from Bank Negara? How about using money changers?
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Per year la.... per month i wont be in stock market d haha

I say its high because normal saving account in Singapore give .05% PA
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Ok la. Free money just take la. rclxms.gif Care to show write down the steps on how is it done?

By the way, I know that we are not allowed to open a SA just like that in Singapore. We need to tell them we want to open a CDP account then only we can open one CDP and one saving account. But how to open 2 account (DBS) and SC when we only can have 1 CDP account?
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Hi Hansel,

Do you know what is the max amount we can transfer if the purpose is for investment overseas? Must this payment be made to an investment brokerage account then? What about transfer to own account overseas and the purpose is for investment later? rclxub.gif
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According to Bank Negara, there is no capital control on funds for investment. Ie.

1. You can transfer whatever amount provided you have no loan in malaysia (1 housing loan is exempted)
2. If you have more than 1 loan, then your limit is RM1m per calender year

Having said that, the bank branches in malaysia usually do not check your TT against the above rule. Unless you transfer RM1m in 1 shot.

Some banks branches who do their jobs will ask. They will let you fill in a declaration form related to the above
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Would that trigger suspicion from Bank Negara? How about using money changers?
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I follow the law and I respect the courts. Maybank restricts one account from TT'ing out more than RM10K equivalent per day. Maybank does not restrict the number of direct accounts or related accounts that one has.

When was the last time you used money changers to do a TT ?
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Would that trigger suspicion from Bank Negara? How about using money changers?
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US$10k is small amount to BNM. Just sign the declaration form at the bank.

Which money changer still make TT transfer now ? Please PM me. Thanks man !
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According to Bank Negara, there is no capital control on funds for investment. Ie.

1. You can transfer whatever amount provided you have no loan in malaysia (1 housing loan is exempted)
2. If you have more than 1 loan, then your limit is RM1m per calender year

Having said that, the bank branches in malaysia usually do not check your TT against the above rule. Unless you transfer RM1m in 1 shot.

Some banks branches who do their jobs will ask. They will let you fill in a declaration form related to the above
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Good man,... bro,... rclxms.gif

I'm Hansel,.. not really active in this thread,.. just came across it today.

YES, just go with DBS, you can withdraw from almost anywhere when you are in Sgp, lots of ATMs all over the island. IF you have an acct with DBS Vickers, you can use the Cash Upfront facility to buy stocks. Minimum SGD 18 only, percentage I think around 0.18%. Lowest brokerage in Sgp, right ?

Recently, DBS has included Msia into its listing of banks where we can do an online TT to Malaysia, and there will be no fees for this TT. So you can move your money in and out without charges.

I would advise you to open a Maybank Singapore Acct too, then you would be able to convert RM into the SGD and TT to Maybank Singapore with only RM10.

Have you ever considered buying and holding SG REITs ?
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Curious whether Maybank SG allows you to open an account without being a Singaporean resident.

I like REITs because of the liquidity and hassle-free nature of investing in property through REITs.

The only problem with SG REITs is if there is a rights issue, you can't subscribe to it because you cannot provide a Singapore address. Other than that, it beats the MY REITs by a mile. No withholding tax, large portfolio (economics of scale & diversification), international exposure and more variety.

I stick with just STI ETF so I can adopt a simple investment strategy, buy less when expensive, buy more when cheap & sell when I need the money. Don't want to spend too much time on this.

orangbulu mentioned investing in US stocks. I think that is good too because of bigger market. Why invest in BAT Malaysia with 2X P/E when you can have international exposure of Philip Morris International at 1X P/E? Again, you can own a stake in publicly-traded oil company, Exxon Mobil at 1X P/E compared to owning small fish companies like Sapurakencana.


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US$10k is small amount to BNM. Just sign the declaration form at the bank.

Which money changer still make TT transfer now ? Please PM me. Thanks man !
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Why PM you only ? I want to know also,.... biggrin.gif
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Why PM you only ? I want to know also,.... biggrin.gif
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Because they cannot do the TT liao. So must be discreet... tongue.gif
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According to Bank Negara, there is no capital control on funds for investment. Ie.

1. You can transfer whatever amount provided you have no loan in malaysia (1 housing loan is exempted)
2. If you have more than 1 loan, then your limit is RM1m per calender year

Having said that, the bank branches in malaysia usually do not check your TT against the above rule. Unless you transfer RM1m in 1 shot.

Some banks branches who do their jobs will ask. They will let you fill in a declaration form related to the above
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May I know what kind of information and supporting documents do they request?

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Because they cannot do the TT liao. So must be discreet... tongue.gif
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But why resort to money changer, their rate is not much better than Maybank, sometimes worse.

It is too bad we don't have something like Currencyfair (Peer to peer currency exchange) for Malaysian Ringgit, only 0.5% commission to trade at mid-market rate.
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May I know what kind of information and supporting documents do they request?
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For investment in stock market, no documents required. Just declare you are going to use the funds to invest in stock market later. If you buy property, then you can give them the S&P.

For education, payment of suppliers you need to provide the related documents like letter of acceptance and invoices
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But why resort to money changer, their rate is not much better than Maybank, sometimes worse.

It is too bad we don't have something like Currencyfair (Peer to peer currency exchange) for Malaysian Ringgit, only 0.5% commission to trade at mid-market rate.
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In my experience a few years ago where my trusted money changer still can do overseas transfer, their rate is more competitive than the banks. Banks are blood sucker which charges more.

My ex-money changer charges me 0.25% spread only. But they kena raided by BNM and stop the service. Now the company no more in the market. Maybe they have change name and location
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Curious whether Maybank SG allows you to open an account without being a Singaporean resident.

The only problem with SG REITs is if there is a rights issue, you can't subscribe to it because you cannot provide a Singapore address. Other than that, it beats the MY REITs by a mile. No withholding tax, large portfolio (economics of scale & diversification), international exposure and more variety.

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Who is keen on trying out the first sentence ? I will PM some simple steps, but the person must promise that he will update the results here in this forum.

Singapore address ?? You need to convince your pretty DBS Relationship Manager (RM) to let you use her apartment address. Or... tip : you can open a mailbox address with a mailbox supplier agency. You can provide the mailbox address to CDP as your local address for Rights subscription. Cost around $90 only per year.
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Because they cannot do the TT liao. So must be discreet... tongue.gif
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Ok la. Free money just take la.  rclxms.gif Care to show write down the steps on how is it done?

By the way, I know that we are not allowed to open a SA just like that in Singapore. We need to tell them we want to open a CDP account then only we can open one CDP and one saving account. But how to open 2 account (DBS) and SC when we only can have 1 CDP account?
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The steps is quite simple, go to both banks and open both accounts. Once its done, every first day of the month you just transfer money from one account to another, so that it "thinks"its fresh funds and you gain the bonus interest. Do keep in mind the minimum account balance to avoid the fall below fee.

Do note confuse trading accounts and CDP. Most Singapore banks are hesitant allow foreigners to just open savings account (i dont know why, probably because they cant earn money off you). To overcome this, you tell them you want to open a trading account. When you do this, they automatically have to open a savings account for you to fund your trading account with money to buy shares.

Some bank trading account needs CDP, which is used to store your shares. Some bank dont need CDP, and they act as a custodian to your shares. Again, CDP is not a factor here. The key is the trading account.
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QUOTE(orangbulu @ Sep 18 2015, 02:16 PM)
The steps is quite simple, go to both banks and open both accounts. Once its done, every first day of the month you just transfer money from one account to another, so that it "thinks"its fresh funds and you gain the bonus interest. Do keep in mind the minimum account balance to avoid the fall below fee.

Do note confuse trading accounts and CDP. Most Singapore banks are hesitant allow foreigners to just open savings account (i dont know why, probably because they cant earn money off you). To overcome this, you tell them you want to open a trading account. When you do this, they automatically have to open a savings account for you to fund your trading account with money to buy shares.

Some bank trading account needs CDP, which is used to store your shares. Some bank dont need CDP, and they act as a custodian to your shares. Again, CDP is not a factor here. The key is the trading account.
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You mentioned bonus interest,... so how much is the total interest, plus the bonus interest ?

Looks like times have changed a lot,... many years ago when I opened my savings accounts, the branch personnel did not tell me to open the trading accounts too. I had to put in extra effort to seek out the brokerage that offers the best rates, and then opened the accounts there.

But it's good also-lar if you have to open the trading account at the same time. After all, if you wished to buy SG REITs, you needed a trading account also.

I think if a bank does not require you to open a CDP account, it means your shares are kept under a nominee account, and not by CDP. That's what happened for private banking accounts in Sgp.

So,... if one opens a Savings Account with Maybank, then Maybank will impose that the person must open a trading acct with Maybank-Kim Eng Securities too ?

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QUOTE(orangbulu @ Sep 18 2015, 02:16 PM)
The steps is quite simple, go to both banks and open both accounts. Once its done, every first day of the month you just transfer money from one account to another, so that it "thinks"its fresh funds and you gain the bonus interest. Do keep in mind the minimum account balance to avoid the fall below fee.

Do note confuse trading accounts and CDP. Most Singapore banks are hesitant allow foreigners to just open savings account (i dont know why, probably because they cant earn money off you). To overcome this, you tell them you want to open a trading account. When you do this, they automatically have to open a savings account for you to fund your trading account with money to buy shares.

Some bank trading account needs CDP, which is used to store your shares. Some bank dont need CDP, and they act as a custodian to your shares. Again, CDP is not a factor here. The key is the trading account.
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So you walk into DBS and SC and tell each of them that you want to open a trading account . After that you are all set. Am I right? What about TAC or something like that whenever you want to transfer money. Can they send it to the malaysian no?

In which order? OCBC > SC or SC > OCBC or the order is not important?
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Another advantage of having a Maybank Sgp Acct is if you are transferring amount s of RM10K and below via Maybank2U, the TT charge is only RM10, and not RM25.

An advantage of having a DBS Savings Acct is you can open a Multi-Currency Acct too and you can deposit foreign currency notes into the acct.. And withdraw too if they have stocks,... hard cash here.
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So you walk into DBS and SC and tell each of them that you want to open a trading account . After that you are all set. Am I right? What about TAC or something like that whenever you want to transfer money. Can they send it to the malaysian no?

In which order? OCBC > SC or SC > OCBC or the order is not important?
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Let me help. You can choose the second level security by using a small device that generates a security code for you as you are performing your transactions. You carry that device with you wherever you go. CDP has recently implemented this second-level security too. So, no need to worry about having a Sgp phone number.


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You mentioned bonus interest,... so how much is the total interest, plus the bonus interest ?

Looks like times have changed a lot,... many years ago when I opened my savings accounts, the branch personnel did not tell me to open the trading accounts too. I had to put in extra effort to seek out the brokerage that offers the best rates, and then opened the accounts there.

But it's good also-lar if you have to open the trading account at the same time. After all, if you wished to buy SG REITs, you needed a trading account also.

I think if a bank does not require you to open a CDP account, it means your shares are kept under a nominee account, and not by CDP. That's what happened for private banking accounts in Sgp.

So,... if one opens a Savings Account with Maybank, then Maybank will impose that the person must open a trading acct with Maybank-Kim Eng Securities too ?
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I can answered you on that. Interest of ~1%. Check out OCBC 360 and SC eSavers.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 18 2015, 02:29 PM)
So you walk into DBS and SC and tell each of them that you want to open a trading account . After that you are all set. Am I right? What about TAC or something like that whenever you want to transfer money. Can they send it to the malaysian no?

In which order? OCBC > SC or SC > OCBC or the order is not important?
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Sorry could you let me know what is TAC?

Yes, walk in, tell them you want a trading account you are all set. For standard chartered, they may ask you to fill an assessment form. On the option asking whether you have done 6 trades in the past, say yes (dont worry they dont check whether its true). Its some rule by the SG gov after the financial crash, to prevent financially uneducated people from dumping their money in shares

For both saving accounts there will be online banking, and they will give you a physical token. You can use your Malaysia address and all letters will be sent to you in Malaysia. Transfering money can be done online. In fact in Singapore, interbank transfer is instant and free (i really mean instant, when you click transfer on bank A and you refresh bank B, your money is already updated in bank B). Limited to 50K SGD a day.

Order is not important. But come to think of it... OCBC has a 3000 SGD min balance, Stan chart has a 1000 SGD min balance which may be quite steep for some people.
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In my experience a few years ago where my trusted money changer still can do overseas transfer, their rate is more competitive than the banks. Banks are blood sucker which charges more.

My ex-money changer charges me 0.25% spread only. But they kena raided by BNM and stop the service. Now the company no more in the market. Maybe they have change name and location
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Fully-agreed with your first paragraph, the money-changers rates are better.

On the second para, did you give them a cheque to take money from your account for the TT purpose ? Or did you give them cash on the spot ?
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 18 2015, 02:36 PM)
I can answered you on that. Interest of ~1%. Check out OCBC 360 and SC eSavers.
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Tq,... hmm, 1% ??
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Sorry could you let me know what is TAC?

Yes, walk in, tell them you want a trading account you are all set. For standard chartered, they may ask you to fill an assessment form. On the option asking whether you have done 6 trades in the past, say yes (dont worry they dont check whether its true). Its some rule by the SG gov after the financial crash, to prevent financially uneducated people from dumping their money in shares

For both saving accounts there will be online banking, and they will give you a physical token. You can use your Malaysia address and all letters will be sent to you in Malaysia. Transfering money can be done online. In fact in Singapore, interbank transfer is instant and free (i really mean instant, when you click transfer on bank A and you refresh bank B, your money is already updated in bank B). Limited to 50K SGD a day.

Order is not important. But come to think of it... OCBC has a 3000 SGD min balance, Stan chart has a 1000 SGD min balance which may be quite steep for some people.
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TAC is a kind of authorization 6 digit code that the malaysian bank will send to you HP (sms) whenever you want to transfer money out of your account (online) and you need to input the code in the space provided.

So is ok to open 2 trading account? (i.e one person is not restricted to 1 account per name?)
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Tq,... hmm, 1% ??
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TAC is a kind of authorization 6 digit code that the malaysian bank will send to you HP (sms) whenever you want to transfer money out of your account (online) and you need to input the code in the space provided.

So is ok to open 2 trading account? (i.e one person is not restricted to 1 account per name?)
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Its ok to open 2 trading accounts, you can even open 100 if you want, and link them to your CDP (For banks who required CDP)

If you register you Malaysian phone number you will also receive the 6 digit code on your phone.
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Sorry could you let me know what is TAC?

Yes, walk in, tell them you want a trading account you are all set. For standard chartered, they may ask you to fill an assessment form. On the option asking whether you have done 6 trades in the past, say yes (dont worry they dont check whether its true). Its some rule by the SG gov after the financial crash, to prevent financially uneducated people from dumping their money in shares

For both saving accounts there will be online banking, and they will give you a physical token. You can use your Malaysia address and all letters will be sent to you in Malaysia. Transfering money can be done online. In fact in Singapore, interbank transfer is instant and free (i really mean instant, when you click transfer on bank A and you refresh bank B, your money is already updated in bank B). Limited to 50K SGD a day.

Order is not important. But come to think of it... OCBC has a 3000 SGD min balance, Stan chart has a 1000 SGD min balance which may be quite steep for some people.
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TAC is the form of second level security adopted by Maybank in Msia. It is a code texted to your registered handphone number when it is needed.

In comparison with Sgp banking security, UOB Privilege Banking, Singapore has an option of whether you want the texted code to your registered handphone number or you wish to carry around the 'dongle' with you at all times.

OCBC has a minimum balance of SGD 3K, wow,... if you don't keep this minimum, how much is the month Service Charge ?

SC's minimum of SGD 1K is normal, similar to DBS's Savings Acct. Maybank Sgp's is still SGD500 only.

Frankly, I wouldn't want SGD3K to be lying around not doing anything.
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Anyone using MBB sg account + Kim Eng securities KE Trade Prefunded?

From KE website (http://www.maybank-ke.com.sg/contact-us/faqs/ke-trade/), CDP Sub-account Maintenance Fee is waived.

Other charges seem reasonable.
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TAC is the form of second level security adopted by Maybank in Msia. It is a code texted to your registered handphone number when it is needed.

In comparison with Sgp banking security, UOB Privilege Banking, Singapore has an option of whether you want the texted code to your registered handphone number or you wish to carry around the 'dongle' with you at all times.

OCBC has a minimum balance of SGD 3K, wow,... if you don't keep this minimum, how much is the month Service Charge ?

SC's minimum of SGD 1K is normal, similar to DBS's Savings Acct. Maybank Sgp's is still SGD500 only.

Frankly, I wouldn't want SGD3K to be lying around not doing anything.
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I think fall below fee is 2 dollars a month. There are some people who managed to open 2 Stan Chart Esaver account... i dont know how they do it. They just transfer between both accounts.
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QUOTE(wjchay @ Sep 18 2015, 02:54 PM)
Anyone using MBB sg account + Kim Eng securities KE Trade Prefunded?

From KE website (http://www.maybank-ke.com.sg/contact-us/faqs/ke-trade/), CDP Sub-account Maintenance Fee is waived.

Other charges seem reasonable.
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I dont like the Min SGD 18 dollar charge per trade. If you are doing 9000 SGD per trade, its more worth it, if its lower, Stan chart is cheaper.
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 18 2015, 02:41 PM)
Fully-agreed with your first paragraph, the money-changers rates are better.

On the second para, did you give them a cheque to take money from your account for the TT purpose ? Or did you give them cash on the spot ?
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Initially it was cash. Later when both sides trust each other, they accept my cheque and lock in the rate there and then. 3 days later when the cheque is cleared, they make the transfer
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I think fall below fee is 2 dollars a month. There are some people who managed to open 2 Stan Chart Esaver account... i dont know how they do it. They just transfer between both accounts.
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2 dollars a month is a good deal,... lol,.. Then I think it's worth it to put inside eSavers, and move the funds back and forth to earn the 1% if the amount is big enough. BUt is this program seasonal, ie can be withdrawn ?

Haha,.. opening 2 eSavers Accts to move back and forth ?? That's funny,... big slip there for SC Sgp.
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Initially it was cash. Later when both sides trust each other, they accept my cheque and lock in the rate there and then. 3 days later when the cheque is cleared, they make the transfer
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I suspect the banks got wind of this activity when the money-changer went to the bank to bank-in your cheques. It may not have happened the first time they did it, but after a few rounds, the bank realized that the money-changer is offering TT services too. The bank complained and BNM raided the money-changer,...

When you were giving them cash, things were fine, right ?

Then again, banks are very tight today in protecting this line of business. The money-changers are allowed to deal in hard cash being exchanged over the counter only. Times are hard.
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2 dollars a month is a good deal,... lol,.. Then I think it's worth it to put inside eSavers, and move the funds back and forth to earn the 1% if the amount is big enough. BUt is this program seasonal, ie can be withdrawn ?

Haha,.. opening 2 eSavers Accts to move back and forth ?? That's funny,... big slip there for SC Sgp.
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Its seasonal , but every 3 months they release the new promo rates for the next 3 months. This has been going on for the past few years so i dont think it will stop anytime soon.

Regardless, whether there is a promo or not i still need to keep that account to fund my trading, so it does not impact me that much. I treat it more as a bonus. Most of my money are locked up in FD as i plan to buy a house soon.
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I dont like the Min SGD 18 dollar charge per trade. If you are doing 9000 SGD per trade, its more worth it, if its lower, Stan chart is cheaper.
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Thanks for the feedback. How about HSBC? I was told that a HSBC Malaysia Premier customer can open the respective sg accounts (savings + trading) without physically in sg.


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QUOTE(orangbulu @ Sep 18 2015, 03:17 PM)
Its seasonal , but every 3 months they release the new promo rates for the next 3 months. This has been going on for the past few years so i dont think it will stop anytime soon.

Regardless, whether there is a promo or not i still need to keep that account to fund my trading, so it does not impact me that much. I treat it more as a bonus. Most of my money are locked up in FD as i plan to buy a house soon.
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Tq. Yes, I know of such promos. In Msia, we have that too,... offered by OCBC Msia, requiring fresh funds only, except for iQ customers,.. we can just rollover with the new promo FD rate without fresh funds.

Yes, now is quite a good time to buy a house in Sgp. But be careful of the loan interest rate and the rise of SOR/SIBOR if you are not taking a Fixed Rate package.


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Thanks for the feedback. How about HSBC? I was told that a HSBC Malaysia Premier customer can open the respective sg accounts (savings + trading) without physically in sg.
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Yes, that's what I heard from my friends too. YOu can even open an account in Toronto or in London if you wished to. But be careful of the fees.
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Yes, that's what I heard from my friends too. YOu can even open an account in Toronto or in London if you wished to. But be careful of the fees.
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Seems like SC Priority banking customers also offered this service:

"Pre-arrival account opening
2.14 We will assist you to open accounts at Standard Chartered Bank in other countries (subject to the local laws and regulations there) at your request."

No mention of fees tho.
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Yes, that's what I heard from my friends too. YOu can even open an account in Toronto or in London if you wished to. But be careful of the fees.
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no fee required. U just need 200k (if not mistaken) to be their premier customer in order to eligible such service. Of course they most likely giving u a lousy exchange rate compare to other bank brows.gif
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 18 2015, 03:17 PM)
I suspect the banks got wind of this activity when the money-changer went to the bank to bank-in your cheques. It may not have happened the first time they did it, but after a few rounds, the bank realized that the money-changer is offering TT services too. The bank complained and BNM raided the money-changer,...

When you were giving them cash, things were fine, right ?

Then again, banks are very tight today in protecting this line of business. The money-changers are allowed to deal in hard cash being exchanged over the counter only. Times are hard.
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No lah. The reason BNM lock down is because of money laundering. At that time, many politicians were transferring money out of the country using money changer. Escape the banking system and the records. So eventually this route is eliminated.
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Maybank now won't be able to open SG Acc through mal branch any more dam zzzzzz
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No lah. The reason BNM lock down is because of money laundering. At that time, many politicians were transferring money out of the country using money changer. Escape the banking system and the records. So eventually this route is eliminated.
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why so troublesome? politicians can transfer directly and tell bnm that they are donations smile.gif
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Yes, now is quite a good time to buy a house in Sgp. But be careful of the loan interest rate and the rise of SOR/SIBOR if you are not taking a Fixed Rate package.
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Seems like SC Priority banking customers also offered this service:

"Pre-arrival account opening
2.14 We will assist you to open accounts at Standard Chartered Bank in other countries (subject to the local laws and regulations there) at your request."

No mention of fees tho.
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no fee required. U just need 200k (if not mistaken) to be their premier customer in order to eligible such service. Of course they most likely giving u a lousy exchange rate compare to other bank  brows.gif
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Yeah, that's what I meant to say,... but I lumped it all up as just 'fees'. Banks would just say ths has no fees, that has no fees, but they would just find a way to 'profit higher' in other means when the service they are giving is 'valuable' enough. No free lunch, especially nowadays.
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No lah. The reason BNM lock down is because of money laundering. At that time, many politicians were transferring money out of the country using money changer. Escape the banking system and the records. So eventually this route is eliminated.
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Perhaps this could be a reaon... How the banks identified which money-changer was doing TT on behalf of their clients was done when the money-changer went to cash out a cheque given by the client. I'm quite sure of that. As a matter of fact, a money-changer shared with me subtlely on this, though he dared not mention it directly to me.

If I give cheque upfront, they could still do a TT, but not too often.

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if you are not citizen or permanent resident, you will be required to pay additional stamp duty of 15%.
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Tq.,... yes, and for private properties and certain classes of executive condos belonging to the HDB only. IT's not too difficult to go around this,... just buy the prop under the name of someone you can trust.
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Thanks for the feedback. How about HSBC? I was told that a HSBC Malaysia Premier customer can open the respective sg accounts (savings + trading) without physically in sg.
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you can buy REITS in Singapore. REITS in singapore enjoy close to zero taxes if they distribute 90% of their earnings as dividends.
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Still need to be careful when investing in Sgp REITs though,... I wouldn't call it a low risk investment. he authorities will do their best to regulate, but if anything should 'slip through', we stll have to accept that we went in with our eyes wide open, and to bear the consequences.
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I dont like the Min SGD 18 dollar charge per trade. If you are doing 9000 SGD per trade, its more worth it, if its lower, Stan chart is cheaper.
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Yes its necessary, mandated by Singapore government. First question will ask whether you have done 6 trades in the past 2 years, just declare yes, they wont check.
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Are there any custody fees or corporate action/dividend fees for SC trading account?

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I dont like the Min SGD 18 dollar charge per trade. If you are doing 9000 SGD per trade, its more worth it, if its lower, Stan chart is cheaper.
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Are there any custody fees or corporate action/dividend fees for SC trading account?

Thanks in advance for your help.
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Are there any custody fees or corporate action/dividend fees for SC trading account?

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hi bro,if above 30k sgd how about interest?
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Opened one at DBS bank branch at Marina Bay Financial Centre.

You have to open securities trading account with it.

I opened one after GE 13. I realised how bad gerrymandering was and how screwed I will be if s**t hits the fan.

My vote piled up uselessly in an urban seat with big majority while rural seats with small majority are the ones that matter.

My advice is opening a Singaporean account is not worth it if less than SGD 30k. Interest rate is low so you have to invest in stock market (e.g. REIT or ETF).

You need 1 or 2 times cash collateral to SELL your shares due to how CDP is setup.
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hi bro,if above 30k how about interest? smile.gif
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around 0.1%
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i see bro,any low risk investment can reach 4-5% yearly? smile.gif
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you should aim higher, like 6-7%,
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can?mind to share smile.gif
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KWSP, capital guaranteed, consistent 6++% dividend for past 5 years.
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KWSP, capital guaranteed, consistent 6++% dividend for past 5 years.
http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/en/web/kwsp/.../dividend-rates
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Bro, I think he wants 6-7% returns in SGD. Not MYR
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Bro, I think he wants 6-7% returns in SGD. Not MYR
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QUOTE(iloveusms @ Nov 8 2015, 11:22 PM)
yes you are right bro,i am talking sgd,actually got 4-5% yearly i am ok liao biggrin.gif ..any recommend me? smile.gif  i read somewhere cimb singapore offer 1.9% for 24 month FD, and may i know malaysia can buy singapore saving bonds?
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You can buy Singapore bonds via fsm Singapore. The only one I know able to give ~7% is SREITS
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Hello..next week I planned going down to Sg to have open a trading and savings acc with sc and ocbc.

currently i don hav working permit / non PR. so far anyone had open an account lately in Sg.

Some branch doesnt allow. Some say approval is case to case basis.

any advise?

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Hello..next week I planned going down to Sg to have open a trading and savings acc with sc and ocbc.

currently i don hav working permit / non PR. so far anyone had open an account lately in Sg.

Some branch doesnt allow. Some say approval is case to case basis.

any advise?
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Hi,...call the branches first before you go down. Confirm first,...I am of the opinion that it should not be a problem,...
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Hi,...call the branches first before you go down. Confirm first,...I am of the opinion that it should not be a problem,...
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Ok done with opening.next is to decide what to buy tongue.gif
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Ok done with opening.next is to decide what to buy tongue.gif
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Ok done with opening.next is to decide what to buy tongue.gif
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Ok done with opening.next is to decide what to buy tongue.gif
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rclxms.gif so looks like it's not as hard as it sounds
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Ok done with opening.next is to decide what to buy tongue.gif
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Have you also opened a brokerage account ?
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thanks Hansel. one acc already took me abt 1 1/2 hrs. luckily they allowed me to do so.

i brought along a relative who residing in Sg. then only they would consider my application.

so far so good. I din open the brokerage acc coz time consuming and also SC offers the lowest brokerage fee.

I m looking at the long term investment. maybe in future I will consider abt the brokerage acc. blush.gif
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thanks Hansel. one acc already took me abt 1 1/2 hrs. luckily they allowed me to do so.

i brought along a relative who residing in Sg. then only they would consider my application.

so far so good. I din open the brokerage acc coz time consuming and also SC offers the lowest brokerage fee.

I m looking at the long term investment. maybe in future I will consider abt the brokerage acc.  blush.gif
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so u open using your relative Singapore address  tongue.gif
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I don't think so,....I believed prince was able to open using his address in Msia. It's not that difficult,...
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so u open using your relative Singapore address  tongue.gif
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Now go to wait for 3 w/days to start the game.

Keppel reit, Cache Logistic, Soildbuild and Aimsamp.

Planned to put long term and the proce was quite low.
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Is their KYC process stringent?
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Quite also. The Manager asked alot of questions.

More stringent. Ocbc doesnt allow me to open.
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Quite also. The Manager asked alot of questions.

More stringent. Ocbc doesnt allow me to open.
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What questions? SCB?
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What questions?  SCB?
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Why do u wan open? How much you intend to put? But i can show to them i m staying with relative in sg.

But the approval is case to case basis. I brought along around sgd20k.

Do u plan to open an acx in sg?
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Why do u wan open? How much you intend to put? But i can show to them i m staying with relative in sg.

But the approval is case to case basis. I brought along around sgd20k.

Do u plan to open an acx in sg?
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In the future. Perhaps 3 years time. Sgd 20k cash?
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In the future. Perhaps 3 years time. Sgd 20k cash?
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Yes cash so that they nay consider my application
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Just put half in sling bag and half in luggage. They dont really check. Put a bottle of water in sling to distract their attention.
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Just act cool.
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Just put half in sling bag and half in luggage. They dont really check. Put a bottle of water in sling to distract their attention.
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or bring another person like wife or parents.. Spread among all biggrin.gif
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Just put half in sling bag and half in luggage. They dont really check. Put a bottle of water in sling to distract their attention.
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How did you carry usd10k worth of cash pass Malaysian customs?
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Usually Malaysia side don't check. It's the Singapore side checking. Also if you bring 20k sgd in 1k note it's only 20 notes. You can just put inside wallet
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True. They dont bother coz we are spending in their country. I seldom bring this much
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Usually Malaysia side don't check. It's the Singapore side checking. Also if you bring 20k sgd in 1k note it's only 20 notes. You can just put inside wallet
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wah SGD have 1k note rclxms.gif

meanwhile BolehLand stop years ago cry.gif

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 16 2015, 03:45 PM)
wah SGD have 1k note  rclxms.gif

meanwhile BolehLand stop years ago  cry.gif

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They used to have 10k sgd note. The highest value note in the whole world at that time. But they discontinued it last year.
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They used to have 10k sgd note. The highest value note in the whole world at that time. But they discontinued it last year.
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1k note okay lor blush.gif
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They used to have 10k sgd note. The highest value note in the whole world at that time. But they discontinued it last year.
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do they have $5000 note?
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Quite also. The Manager asked alot of questions.

More stringent. Ocbc doesnt allow me to open.
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U managed to open with which Bank?
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Sometimes, photocopy of our Malaysia Identification Card is needed for banking purposes in Singapore.

For that, is it okay to cross out the photocopy, and write "Not for Loan", and "Only for XXX Bank - To Open Saving Account" on the photocopy?
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Hi guys i myself too is planning to open one in singapore. I was planning to open dbs account. I do not have -any permit whatsoever. Was wondering if the banks will deny us?

Anyone managed to open one there? Can share your experience and what to expect and prepare?
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Hi guys i myself too is planning to open one in singapore. I was planning to open dbs account. I do not have -any permit whatsoever. Was wondering if the banks will deny us?
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Hi guys i myself too is planning to open one in singapore. I was planning to open dbs account. I do not have -any permit whatsoever. Was wondering if the banks will deny us?

Anyone managed to open one there? Can share your experience and what to expect and prepare?
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Read through the past few pages, there are several ways to get an account. May i know why DBS in particular? The interest rates are quite shitty, plus the atm is always full of people
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QUOTE(kit2 @ Feb 2 2016, 06:22 PM)
why not if you have $$$$? many indonesians open bank accounts in singapore too. be prepared to go to another bank/branch if the staff make things difficult for you. remember to bring proof of address.
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Can i use malaysia as proof of address or it must be in singapore? If its malaysia perhaps i can bring my phone bill along as well smile.gif


QUOTE(orangbulu @ Feb 2 2016, 09:32 PM)
Read through the past few pages, there are several ways to get an account. May i know why DBS in particular? The interest rates are quite shitty, plus the atm is always full of people
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Yep read from first page on wards. Had some idea. My main motive is to TT money from Malaysia to my bank account in Singapore and vice versa. One of the main reason because i travel to SG quite often. Quite unsafe to bring loads of cash around. So having a local bank there and swipe with card will be a better idea.

How much should i prepare in cash?

Should i go honest with them for weakening of ringgit/travel often here or use "opening trading account or unit trust" ? Which will be the most ideal option. Also i read a few pages back that it is better to open 2 accounts in SG? why so? icon_question.gif



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i found this citibank global all in one account opening.....

https://www.ipb.citibank.com.sg/english/for...=PAEADIPDBAENC1
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QUOTE(cwhong @ Feb 4 2016, 11:58 AM)
i found this citibank global all in one account opening.....

https://www.ipb.citibank.com.sg/english/for...=PAEADIPDBAENC1
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citibank good? i thought a lot ppl feedback say no good
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QUOTE(kart @ Jan 5 2016, 12:08 AM)
Sometimes, photocopy of our Malaysia Identification Card is needed for banking purposes in Singapore.

For that, is it okay to cross out the photocopy, and write "Not for Loan", and "Only for XXX Bank - To Open Saving Account" on the photocopy?
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yup, its safer & better to cross out the document so that the bank can't use your documents for other purposes like applying for credit card, take a personal loan etc.
Be safe then sorry.
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Opening IPB with citibank minimum requirement is 50k USD and that amount cannot be moved for 3 months. Hence I'm trying to see if they are any alternatives. Hope anyone with knowledge are able to help out
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citibank good? i thought a lot ppl feedback say no good
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I have no idea, i just randomly search and saw this interesting so i posted here for sharing purposes as i hv no intention to hold foreign acct at the time being maybe in the future i will consider...... nod.gif
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I also want to open a bank account in SG with the lowest min balance with no annual fees.

Any suggestion?
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QUOTE(TSOM @ Feb 5 2016, 05:00 AM)
I also want to open a bank account in SG with the lowest min balance with no annual fees.

Any suggestion?
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reading from a few pages back i heard, opening with the reason of "trading account" is doable not sure though. Hope any sifus here can verify

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I also want to open a bank account in SG with the lowest min balance with no annual fees.

Any suggestion?
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For UOB, you are compulsory to do a unit trust investment or buy a prudential endowment plan with them in order to open a account if you do not have any working permit and SG prove of address.
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QUOTE(Jeof @ Feb 6 2016, 09:18 AM)
reading from a few pages back i heard, opening with the reason of "trading account" is doable not sure though. Hope any sifus here can verify
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I don't mind opening a trading account, since I would like to invest in Singaporean REITs too.

last I heard (or read somewhere in this forum), DBS has the best offer.
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QUOTE(orangbulu @ Sep 18 2015, 02:16 PM)
The steps is quite simple, go to both banks and open both accounts. Once its done, every first day of the month you just transfer money from one account to another, so that it "thinks"its fresh funds and you gain the bonus interest. Do keep in mind the minimum account balance to avoid the fall below fee.

Do note confuse trading accounts and CDP. Most Singapore banks are hesitant allow foreigners to just open savings account (i dont know why, probably because they cant earn money off you). To overcome this, you tell them you want to open a trading account. When you do this, they automatically have to open a savings account for you to fund your trading account with money to buy shares.

Some bank trading account needs CDP, which is used to store your shares. Some bank dont need CDP, and they act as a custodian to your shares. Again, CDP is not a factor here. The key is the trading account.
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So we can just open an trading account together with a saving account without actually trading on the stock markets? Then just open two account and all problem solved, right?
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QUOTE(aspenvit @ May 19 2016, 12:45 PM)
So we can just open an trading account together with a saving account without actually trading on the stock markets? Then just open two account and all problem solved, right?
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Yes. Problem solved.
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 17 2015, 10:35 PM)
Hi Qwister,...

Well, that's the rate I've been using all this while.

YES, you need to declare that you do not have loans inside the country if you are going to select 'Investments' as the reason that you are sending your funds overseas. This is in the Form P.

If you going to use the reason of paying for a purchase, you need to show the invoice from the overseas supplier.

I am in the legal industry.

Hoped to be able to advise more in future,... smile.gif
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That leads to an important question. If I have many loans in Malaysia, does that mean that I cannot TT to Singapore? Why other reason can I use apart from "Investment"?
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QUOTE(aspenvit @ May 19 2016, 03:03 PM)
That leads to an important question. If I have many loans in Malaysia, does that mean that I cannot TT to Singapore? Why other reason can I use apart from "Investment"?
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I am not aware of any number of loans causing you not to be able to TT to Singapore. I heard of rules here and there, but provided your amount is not really that big, you shouldn't face any problems.
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 2 2010, 02:55 PM)
Recommend DBS bank for Malaysian to open bank account in Singapore. Easy to open, excellent service (much better than Malaysian banks  vmad.gif), just 10-15 minutes, they even fill in the bank opening form for you. Also instantly eligible for ATM/debit card, internet banking and secure device.

Requirements :

1. Malaysian IC
2. SGD 500 minimum deposit

Benefits:
1. Platinum ATM/VISA debit card, free of charge
2. Will send statement every month to your Malaysian home address, free of charge
3. Can use internet banking anywhere (using a secure device), free of charge
4. Can register your Malaysian HP no for internet banking message, free of charge
5. Online bank fraud refund guaranteethumbup.gif

Cons:
1. No Malaysian bank presence
2. SGD 2 fee per month of your account value falls below SGD 500
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In Malaysia, we are in restriction of sending money oversea for equivalent RM10k or over. At least that is Maybank. Some other bank has a little bit higher limit but not enough. How about DBS singapore? Still the same?
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*In Singapore now. Maximum cash to carry before need to declare is SGD 20,000.

Tried to open trading account together with saving account at Standard Chartered Bank but rejected by that bank. Then I went to UOB, managed to open saving account after agreeing to take up Prudential insurance saving account of about 2% interest per annum, mature at 10 years. Saving account minimum balance SGD 1000, else charges of SGD 2 per month. Insurance premium minimum SGD 6670 per year for 5 years. Monthly premium payments accepted but that will attract a small administrative fee.

Insurance pays you 5% of your capital paid plus refund your capital in the event of death.

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QUOTE(aspenvit @ May 23 2016, 06:56 PM)
*In Singapore now. Maximum cash to carry before need to declare is SGD 20,000.

Tried to open trading account together with saving account at Standard Chartered Bank but rejected by that bank. Then I went to UOB, managed to open saving account after agreeing to take up Prudential insurance saving account of about 2% interest per annum, mature at 10 years. Saving account minimum balance SGD 1000, else charges of SGD 2 per month. Insurance premium minimum SGD 6670 per year for 5 years. Monthly premium payments accepted but that will attract a small administrative fee.

Insurance pays you 5% of your capital paid plus refund your capital in the event of death.
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Thank you for the update,... looks like things are getting harder by the days to open an account,...

You took up an insurance package, but can we claim in the event of situations occuring, because as foreigners in Sgp, there are certain restrictions towards claims by foreigners. I'm wary of the benefits that we can enjoy,...

To perform stock investments, you still need to open a trading account.

What were the reasons provided by Standard Chartered when they refused to open a trading account and savings account for you ?
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QUOTE(Hansel @ May 25 2016, 10:52 AM)
Thank you for the update,... looks like things are getting harder by the days to open an account,...

You took up an insurance package, but can we claim in the event of situations occuring, because as foreigners in Sgp, there are certain restrictions towards claims by foreigners. I'm wary of the benefits that we can enjoy,...

To perform stock investments, you still need to open a trading account.

What were the reasons provided by Standard Chartered when they refused to open a trading account and savings account for you ?
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I was told by Standard Chartered bank I need to have a saving account first before opening trading account. To open a saving account need employment pass.
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QUOTE(aspenvit @ May 25 2016, 11:32 PM)
I was told by Standard Chartered bank I need to have a saving account first before opening trading account. To open a saving account need employment pass.
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Sometimes different branch can give different answer. Yes. It happens in Singapore too. Whether they approve your account or not is at the branch manager's discretion. Anyway, the minimum balance needs to be maintained to avoid the monthly fee even just for a regular savings account at Standard Chartered Singapore is quite high so you aren't really losing out. It's better to open one at a local bank.
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QUOTE(aspenvit @ May 25 2016, 11:32 PM)
I was told by Standard Chartered bank I need to have a saving account first before opening trading account. To open a saving account need employment pass.
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Which Standard Chartered branch did you go to, bro ??
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Which Standard Chartered branch did you go to, bro ??
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 18 2015, 12:58 PM)
saw the FAQ. it's says Singaporeans  sad.gif
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Not really. I am a Malaysian, and made a small initial investment in Singapore Savings Bond, a month ago.

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The interest gained in investing in Singapore Savings Bonds is around 2 %. It is not much, but it is slightly better than the Fixed Deposit in Singapore.

Then again, should I invest instead in Sreits, if the risk in Sreits is manageable? hmm.gif

Any advice from any experts here is very much appreciated here. rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(kart @ Jun 18 2016, 11:21 PM)
Not really. I am a Malaysian, and made a small initial investment in Singapore Savings Bond, a month ago.

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The interest gained in investing in Singapore Savings Bonds is around 2 %. It is not much, but it is slightly better than the Fixed Deposit in Singapore.

Then again, should I invest instead in Sreits, if the risk in Sreits is manageable?  hmm.gif

Any advice from any experts here is very much appreciated here.  rclxms.gif
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Kart,... learn the instruments in the SGX. With such knowledge, you will earn more per Dollar that you deploy into the mkt,... Deploying into SG FD and the SSB are,... to me,... 'overkills' on safety.
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QUOTE(aspenvit @ May 23 2016, 06:56 PM)
*In Singapore now. Maximum cash to carry before need to declare is SGD 20,000.

Tried to open trading account together with saving account at Standard Chartered Bank but rejected by that bank. Then I went to UOB, managed to open saving account after agreeing to take up Prudential insurance saving account of about 2% interest per annum, mature at 10 years. Saving account minimum balance SGD 1000, else charges of SGD 2 per month. Insurance premium minimum SGD 6670 per year for 5 years. Monthly premium payments accepted but that will attract a small administrative fee.

Insurance pays you 5% of your capital paid plus refund your capital in the event of death.
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Which UOB branch did you went to?

The product you buy is called PRUDRNTIAL PRU SAVE MAX LIMITED PAY?
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 21 2016, 08:31 AM)
Kart,... learn the instruments in the SGX. With such knowledge, you will earn more per Dollar that you deploy into the mkt,... Deploying into SG FD and the SSB are,... to me,... 'overkills' on safety.
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Thanks for your insight, Hansel.

I realize the need to balance between the potential gain (or interest), with the tolerable risk I may face. For sure, with such great amount of knowledge you have, you know where to invest your money to maximize gain, while minimizing pitfall and loses.

For a newbie like me, I have a lot to know to learn from you all. smile.gif

By saying 'instruments in the SGX', are you suggesting to invest in stocks in SGX?

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QUOTE(kart @ Jun 22 2016, 03:52 PM)
Thanks for your insight, Hansel.

I realize the need to balance between the potential gain (or interest), with the tolerable risk I may face. For sure, with such great amount of knowledge you have, you know where to invest your money to maximize gain, while minimizing pitfall and loses.

For a newbie like me, I have a lot to know to learn from you all.  smile.gif

By saying 'instruments in the SGX', are you suggesting to invest in stocks in SGX?
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Bro,.. in the SGX, there are stocks, REITs, bonds, ETFs, etc,... Soon, there will be private equity funds by Temasek. You'll have to select what you are comfortable with.
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I may go Singapore UOB to open.
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Hi sifu-sifu,
I want to open "normal" + CDP account at Standard Chartered.

Any other recommendations of sg banks with low transaction charges? My main purpose is trading sg REITs.

Opening account should be done in one day? I'm not jb lang, so it's quite hassle for me to revisit sg again and again.

What kind of documents that I need to open these two accounts? Should I simply bring cash of sgd or there's other safer way to do so?
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QUOTE(heavensea @ Oct 23 2016, 10:54 PM)
Hi sifu-sifu,
I want to open "normal" + CDP account at Standard Chartered.

Any other recommendations of sg banks with low transaction charges? My main purpose is trading sg REITs.

Opening account should be done in one day? I'm not jb lang, so it's quite hassle for me to revisit sg again and again.

What kind of documents that I need to open these two accounts? Should I simply bring cash of sgd or there's other safer way to do so?
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1 thing, SC dont use CDP for trading acc. they hold ur stock in custodian acc. thats why their fee is lower.

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if u still wan to open sc saving acc + trading acc with them

esaver is the basic saving acc they offer. have to keep $1k in acc to avoid the $5 fall below fee.
but im not sure whether u can open or not. check the requirement https://www.sc.com/sg/save/saving-esaver.html

if u manage to open the acc, just tell them u wan to apply for the online trading acc as well. the cs will help u to apply.
they will ask some question like do u invest before, etc. thumbsup.gif

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QUOTE(deadravel @ Oct 24 2016, 03:05 PM)
1 thing, SC dont use CDP for trading acc. they hold ur stock in custodian acc. thats why their fee is lower.

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if u still wan to open sc saving acc + trading acc with them

esaver is the basic saving acc they offer. have to keep $1k in acc to avoid the $5 fall below fee.
but im not sure whether u can open or not. check the requirement https://www.sc.com/sg/save/saving-esaver.html

if u manage to open the acc, just tell them u wan to apply for the online trading acc as well. the cs will help u to apply.
they will ask some question like do u invest before, etc.  :thumbsup:
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Thanks pal, it's very good feedbacks for some newbie like me.
What's your recommendations of banks/trading accouny, I just want to invest in lower risk products like Singapore REITs.
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QUOTE(heavensea @ Oct 24 2016, 05:07 PM)
Thanks pal, it's very good feedbacks for some newbie like me.
What's your recommendations of banks/trading accouny, I just want to invest in lower risk products like Singapore REITs.
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im sorry im not qualify to suggest u any yet. im just starting my journey as well.
sc charge 0.2% rate at $10 minimum fee
but even malaysia brokers allow investment into SG ma not meh.
is the cost much higher if compare to SG brokers?
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QUOTE(deadravel @ Oct 24 2016, 06:04 PM)
im sorry im not qualify to suggest u any yet. im just starting my journey as well.
sc charge 0.2% rate at $10 minimum fee
but even malaysia brokers allow investment into SG ma not meh.
is the cost much higher if compare to SG brokers?
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This I also not sure bro, sifu in here advise me to open sg account to trade.
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This I also not sure bro, sifu in here advise me to open sg account to trade.
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I m also using SC trading account. Quite okay.

for more info what reits to buy, u may always join us at

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry82238078
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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Oct 24 2016, 06:58 PM)
I m also using SC trading account. Quite okay.

for more info what reits to buy, u may always join us at

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry82238078
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hi, r u working in sg?
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hi, r u working in sg?
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No. I m in KL sad.gif how abt u

U invested in reits and etf?
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No. I m in KL sad.gif how abt u

U invested in reits and etf?
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oh. then u can share how u open up ur sc saving acc n trading acc with heavensea

im currently based in sg. just started investing in sg sti etf only.
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prince_mk hi sir, please share your experience with me. I also want to invest in Sg REITs. Tqvm smile.gif

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prince_mk hi sir, please share your experience with me. I also want to invest in Sg REITs. Tqvm smile.gif

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Open a trading acx first in Sg.

Btw are u working in Sg? If yes will be more easier.

Sg has tighten d rules for us to get a trading acc.

Try to email or call the bank n enquire for more info on trading acc.
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Open a trading acx first in Sg.

Btw are u working in Sg? If yes will be more easier.

Sg has tighten d rules for us to get a trading acc.

Try to email or call the bank n enquire for more info on trading acc.
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No, and tq.
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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Oct 24 2016, 09:45 PM)
Open a trading acx first in Sg.

Btw are u working in Sg? If yes will be more easier.

Sg has tighten d rules for us to get a trading acc.

Try to email or call the bank n enquire for more info on trading acc.
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Correction, bro,... SG has not yet tightened the opening of trading accts, but they have tightened the rules for opening of bank savings accts. ou can still open trading accts with any brokerage,... no problem, but without a savings acct to back it up with, you will find the charges you have to pay are too high,....
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 24 2016, 10:55 PM)
Correction, bro,... SG has not yet tightened the opening of trading accts, but they have tightened the rules for opening of bank savings accts. ou can still open trading accts with any brokerage,... no problem, but without a savings acct to back it up with, you will find the charges you have to pay are too high,....
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I m consider lucky to have a savings and trading acc in sg smile.gif
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Any idea on how to open a saving account in Singapore without being working there? smile.gif

A lot of them required employment pass sad.gif

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I m consider lucky to have a savings and trading acc in sg smile.gif
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YES, bro,.... open one more at Maybank too,... there are its benefits too,... when you wished to move funds in and out of MY into Sgp....provided you also have a Maybank acct in MY.
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QUOTE(AIYH @ Oct 25 2016, 01:36 PM)
Any idea on how to open a saving account in Singapore without being working there? smile.gif

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See thread : SGX Counters.

You can still open savings accts at Standard Chartered Singapore and at Maybank Singapore with your normal documents. Do it quickly before these two banks close their doors too.
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can open Spore Maybank account in local Maybank. try go ask.
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Anybody knows now still can open account in sg with stand chart? ..seems like they might be closing the door soon in the sgreits thread?
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Anybody knows now still can open account in sg with stand chart? ..seems like they might be closing the door soon in the sgreits thread?
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Do you know who is the largest shareholder of standard chartered smile.gif
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I have maybank and scb. Can I asked referral letter from this 2 bank to let me open account?
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Do you know who is the largest shareholder of standard chartered smile.gif
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Bro,... you are always scouring ard these pages. You would have read that you just need to answer yes to their questions, act smart and answer with some higher numericals to their questions which required numerical answers.

Come on, bro,...
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And if they do a background check to find that I don't have that much money?
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 15 2016, 06:51 PM)
I have maybank and scb. Can I asked referral letter from this 2 bank to let me open account?
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I an with UOB and they issued me reference letter to UOB Singapore and open account.

I need to find time and fly to Singapore.
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 25 2016, 04:44 PM)
See thread : SGX Counters.

You can still open savings accts at Standard Chartered Singapore and at Maybank Singapore with your normal documents. Do it quickly before these two banks close their doors too.
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Hi... can some Malaysian with no referral letter from any banks and an employment pass just walk in with a passport and ic and open a savings accounts with any Standard Chartered Singapore branch?
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 25 2016, 04:40 PM)
YES, bro,.... open one more at Maybank too,... there are its benefits too,... when you wished to move funds in and out of MY into Sgp....provided you also have a Maybank acct in MY.
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 25 2016, 04:44 PM)
See thread : SGX Counters.

You can still open savings accts at Standard Chartered Singapore and at Maybank Singapore with your normal documents. Do it quickly before these two banks close their doors too.
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For me, I have POSB and OCBC (Singapore) saving accounts. Do I still need to open a Maybank Singapore saving account? So, is it cheaper to move fund between Maybank Malaysia saving account and Maybank Singapore saving account?

For now, I use Visa Direct to transfer fund from Maybank Malaysia saving account, to my POSB saving account. The fund is transferred via Visa network, into my a debit card linked with my POSB saving account. Then, via FAST, I can transfer fund between POSB and OCBC (Singapore) saving accounts, for free.

Yeah, this method may not be the cheapest method, so I am open to any suggestion from you all, on the cheapest and best way to move fund between Malaysia saving account and Singapore saving account.

Thank you for your advice. notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 15 2016, 06:51 PM)
I have maybank and scb. Can I asked referral letter from this 2 bank to let me open account?
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maybank sg can accept you if you provide them maybank msia acc num. no problem. others seem to be closing their door.
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QUOTE(kart @ Nov 17 2016, 07:49 PM)
For me, I have POSB and OCBC (Singapore) saving accounts. Do I still need to open a Maybank Singapore saving account? So, is it cheaper to move fund between Maybank Malaysia saving account and Maybank Singapore saving account?

For now, I use Visa Direct to transfer fund from Maybank Malaysia saving account, to my POSB saving account. The fund is transferred via Visa network, into my a debit card linked with my POSB saving account. Then, via FAST, I can transfer fund between POSB and OCBC (Singapore) saving accounts, for free.

Yeah, this method may not be the cheapest method, so I am open to any suggestion from you all, on the cheapest and best way to move fund between Malaysia saving account and Singapore saving account.

Thank you for your advice.  notworthy.gif
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I tried ask some posb bank but they refused to let me open acc there coz I don hav working permit or PR.

when did u open d posb ?
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Hi... can some Malaysian with no referral letter from any banks and an employment pass just walk in with a passport and ic and open a savings accounts with any Standard Chartered Singapore branch?
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last year yes. this year seems to be difficult. I think by now they closing the door.
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And if they do a background check to find that I don't have that much money?
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they wont check whether you have a deep pocket or not. don't worry.

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Nov 16 2016, 04:30 PM)
I an with UOB and they issued me reference letter to UOB Singapore and open account.

I need to find time and fly to Singapore.
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update us later okay.
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last year yes. this year seems to be difficult. I think by now they closing the door.
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Update us if u have any luck in opening one. Have u tried most banks in Sgp?
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Update us if u have any luck in opening one. Have u tried most banks in Sgp?
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He already have SCB account in SG.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 18 2016, 04:58 AM)
He already have SCB account in SG.
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QUOTE(kart @ Nov 17 2016, 07:49 PM)
For me, I have POSB and OCBC (Singapore) saving accounts. Do I still need to open a Maybank Singapore saving account? So, is it cheaper to move fund between Maybank Malaysia saving account and Maybank Singapore saving account?

For now, I use Visa Direct to transfer fund from Maybank Malaysia saving account, to my POSB saving account. The fund is transferred via Visa network, into my a debit card linked with my POSB saving account. Then, via FAST, I can transfer fund between POSB and OCBC (Singapore) saving accounts, for free.

Yeah, this method may not be the cheapest method, so I am open to any suggestion from you all, on the cheapest and best way to move fund between Malaysia saving account and Singapore saving account.

Thank you for your advice.  notworthy.gif
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hi kart, i just received an email from maybank SG regarding this TT so i will share with you on this.

send money from MY to SG = Maybank Msia charge RM10.60 (include GST) + Maybank SG charge SGD10 for inward remittance

send money from SG to MY = Maybank SG charge SGD 15 for online transfer. Instant transfer would be 0.125% commission (min $20, max $100) + processing fee $10 (of course cheaper with normal online transfer if no rush) [Only thing i have yet to know is much does MY Maybank charge for inward remittance from SG banks.


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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Nov 18 2016, 11:23 AM)
hi kart, i just received an email from maybank SG regarding this TT so i will share with you on this.

send money from MY to SG = Maybank Msia charge RM10.60 (include GST) + Maybank SG charge SGD10 for inward remittance

send money from SG to MY = Maybank SG charge SGD 15 for online transfer. Instant transfer would be 0.125% commission (min $20, max $100) + processing fee $10 (of course cheaper with normal online transfer if no rush) [Only thing i have yet to know is much does MY Maybank charge for inward remittance from SG banks.
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1) If you have a DBS Account, you can use a facility called DBS Remit, and remit to Msia without charges at all.

2) There is NO charge imposed by Maybank Msia for inward remittance from an Sgp Bank.
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 18 2016, 11:57 AM)
1) If you have a DBS Account, you can use a facility called DBS Remit, and remit to Msia without charges at all.

2) There is NO charge imposed by Maybank Msia for inward remittance from an Sgp Bank.
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ideal situation would be having a DBS account then.

and thanks for the tip on MY bank inward remittance. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Nov 18 2016, 12:11 PM)
ideal situation would be having a DBS account then.

and thanks for the tip on MY bank inward remittance.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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ideal situation would be having a DBS account then.

and thanks for the tip on MY bank inward remittance.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 18 2016, 12:14 PM)
DBS needs min SGD3k or they start charging you.
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thumbsup.gif I love yr profile photo, Shin,...

Bro Ramjade,... charging SGD5 per month ?
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 18 2016, 12:18 PM)
:thumbsup: I love yr profile photo, Shin,...

Bro Ramjade,... charging SGD5 per month ?
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Don't know how much. But if you look at their page, one must have min of xxxx/month.
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Nobody can help out on account opening?
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 18 2016, 12:27 PM)
Don't know how much. But if you look at their page, one must have min of xxxx/month.
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Bro,... for Stanchart eSavers Acct, you have must a daily average of SGD1000 inside. If this daily average falls below SGD1000, then they will charge you SGD5 at the end of the month as fall-below fee.

If you wished to invest this SGD instead, leave SGD60 inside the account for them to deduct, then you can take out SGD940 to invest. SGD60 will allow them to deduct for one full year !
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Nobody can help out on account opening?
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Use the following. I thought somebody would reply,...

1) Call Standard Chartered, Sgp, tel no : 65-67477000, ask them what documents are needed. Tell them of the date that you will be going down. Tell them you intend to do at No : 1 Battery Road.

You do this so that they can't refuse you later ! Bro,... don't go to other branches ! Open at No 1, Battery Road.

2) Gather the docs, then go down !

3) At a minimum, open the eSavers, SGD and USD Settlement Accts.

Bring SGD 1200 with you, you need to put in SGD 1000 into that eSavers Acct.. After that, wait for your token and the ids and passwords to reach your house. Then you can start from there.

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 18 2016, 02:59 PM)
Use the following. I thought somebody would reply,...

1) Call Standard Chartered, Sgp, tel no : 65-67477000, ask them what documents are needed. Tell them of the date that you will be going down. Tell them you intend to do at No : 1 Battery Road.

You do this so that they can't refuse you later ! Bro,... don't go to other branches ! Open at No 1, Battery Road.

2) Gather the docs, then go down !

3) At a minimum, open the eSavers, SGD and USD Settlement Accts.

Bring SGD 1200 with you, you need to put in SGD 1000 into that eSavers Acct.. After that, wait for your token and the ids and passwords to reach your house. Then you can start from there.
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Thanks for the heads up bro. thumbsup.gif Will try and see.

Update.. called the hotline and they require at minimum an Employment pass and supporting documents from a Singapore employer. sad.gif

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What about Maybank and DBS/POSB, will they allow Malaysians to open a savings account without needing an EP ?
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 18 2016, 12:14 PM)
DBS needs min SGD3k or they start charging you.
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including this and need to show work permit /employment permit etc right?

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thumbsup.gif I love yr profile photo, Shin,...

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Nobody can help out on account opening?
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yo. if you are do not want to go singapore just to open an account, you may look into opening a Maybank SG account locally. without travel. just go to some selected few MBB branches to sign the form. It's called iSavvy account. minimum SGD500 to open. only con is that it takes 3-4 weeks for them to validate and approve the acc opening.

QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Nov 18 2016, 03:19 PM)
What about Maybank and DBS/POSB, will they allow Malaysians to open a savings account without needing an EP ?
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I opened an account with Maybank SG locally. DBS/POSB no idea.
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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Nov 18 2016, 03:30 PM)
including this and need to show work permit /employment permit etc right?
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yo. if you are do not want to go singapore just to open an account, you may look into opening a Maybank SG account locally. without travel. just go to some selected few MBB branches to sign the form. It's called iSavvy account. minimum SGD500 to open. only con is that it takes 3-4 weeks for them to validate and approve the acc opening.
I opened an account with Maybank SG locally. DBS/POSB no idea.
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I dont mind going down to Singapore to open an account there. But Singaporeans bank are requesting for a work permit and related employer documents to let me open an account which I dont have as Im not working in Singapore. Any other ways or banks to go about that?
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I dont mind going down to Singapore to open an account there. But Singaporeans bank are requesting for a work permit and related employer documents to let me open an account which I dont have as Im not working in Singapore. Any other ways or banks to go about that?
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oh then go with maybank then. no EP or WP needed to open. but u must have msia mbb account first before applying.
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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Nov 18 2016, 03:30 PM)
yo. if you are do not want to go singapore just to open an account, you may look into opening a Maybank SG account locally. without travel. just go to some selected few MBB branches to sign the form. It's called iSavvy account. minimum SGD500 to open. only con is that it takes 3-4 weeks for them to validate and approve the acc opening.
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Care to share which maybank branch to visit?
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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Nov 18 2016, 03:37 PM)
oh then go with maybank then. no EP or WP needed to open. but u must have msia mbb account first before applying.
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U mentioned selected branches but I cant find anything online. Any specific branch would you recommend?
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 18 2016, 04:00 PM)
Care to share which maybank branch to visit?
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Nov 18 2016, 04:50 PM)
U mentioned selected branches but I cant find anything online. Any specific branch would you recommend?
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here you go guys.

http://info.maybank2u.com.sg/pdf/deposits-...cation-form.pdf

this is the application form if you want to print out. if not, just visit the branch (scroll all the way to the bottom to find your nearest branch) and get the form.

do take note on the difference between premier wealth and normal branches. worried that if you visit premier branch but you're not MBB customer then they might reject you.

you would also need to prepare a SGD bank draft. just inform the teller and he/she will provide 2 forms for you.

1 x application form
1 x bank draft form (yellow slip) minimum SGD500

hope the above helps.
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here you go guys. 

http://info.maybank2u.com.sg/pdf/deposits-...cation-form.pdf

this is the application form if you want to print out. if not, just visit the branch (scroll all the way to the bottom to find your nearest branch) and get the form.

do take note on the difference between premier wealth and normal branches. worried that if you visit premier branch but you're not MBB customer then they might reject you.

you would also need to prepare a SGD bank draft. just inform the teller and he/she will provide 2 forms for you.

1 x application form
1 x bank draft form (yellow slip) minimum SGD500

hope the above helps.
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Thanks for the info bro. Very helpful info.
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Looks like Shin's way is better than mine in opening a Sgp bank account,... thumbsup.gif

Yes, use the above way,... then if you guys needed a trading account with the lowest brokerage charge in Sgp, use my way,... BUT,... quickly open the bank acct first using Shin's way above, BEFORE MAYBANK CLOSES THEIR DOORS !!
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Thanks for the info bro. Very helpful info.
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http://www.maybank2u.com.my/en/personal/de...ings/savvy.page

First are you 18 years and above?
A Malaysian or Permanent Resident? Opening a Personal or Joint Account?
And please note the Minimum deposit of $5000. (In the form of a SGD Demand Draft)
Ok? Then next steps:

Visit your nearest Maybank branch, bring along your original Identity Card (IC), Police or Armed Forces ID Card, Birth Certificate and MyKid for Malaysians, and Passport for non-residents or foreigners, as your primary document.

You may also need to bring secondary supporting documents such as:
A valid passport (if IC is produced as a Primary document), a valid driving license, utility bills (e.g. water/electricity/telephone bills, Quit Rent, Assessment Notice) in the name and address of the customer opening the account, a Letter of employment or your Credit card.
And that's it! Scroll down to the bottom of the page for more details on how to apply now.

Tomei-R.. let me know if u are successful in opening without the LETTER OF EMPLOYMENT... from Malaysia without going to Sg.



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Looks like Shin's way is better than mine in opening a Sgp bank account,... thumbsup.gif

Yes, use the above way,... then if you guys needed a trading account with the lowest brokerage charge in Sgp, use my way,... BUT,... quickly open the bank acct first using Shin's way above, BEFORE MAYBANK CLOSES THEIR DOORS !!
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Nov 18 2016, 07:25 PM)
http://www.maybank2u.com.my/en/personal/de...ings/savvy.page

First are you 18 years and above?
A Malaysian or Permanent Resident? Opening a Personal or Joint Account?
And please note the Minimum deposit of $5000. (In the form of a SGD Demand Draft)
Ok? Then next steps:

Visit your nearest Maybank branch, bring along your original Identity Card (IC), Police or Armed Forces ID Card, Birth Certificate and MyKid for Malaysians, and Passport for non-residents or foreigners, as your primary document.

You may also need to bring secondary supporting documents such as:
A valid passport (if IC is produced as a Primary document), a valid driving license, utility bills (e.g. water/electricity/telephone bills, Quit Rent, Assessment Notice) in the name and address of the customer opening the account, a Letter of employment or your Credit card.
And that's it! Scroll down to the bottom of the page for more details on how to apply now.

Tomei-R.. let me know if u are successful in opening without the LETTER OF EMPLOYMENT... from Malaysia without going to Sg.
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Im still weighing my options. If possible, I would prefer an account with a Singaporean bank with no link to the Malaysian side. Sorry, but I have my own reasons for this.

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 18 2016, 11:57 AM)
1) If you have a DBS Account, you can use a facility called DBS Remit, and remit to Msia without charges at all.

2) There is NO charge imposed by Maybank Msia for inward remittance from an Sgp Bank.
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Hansel, thank you very much for sharing your tips here. notworthy.gif

1) What is the best way to remit money from Malaysia saving account to Singapore saving account?

2) You mentioned one good point of having a DBS saving account. As mentioned earlier, I have a POSB and OCBC (Singapore) saving account. Do I still need to open a Maybank Singapore saving account?

Your advice is highly appreciated. rclxm9.gif

QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Nov 18 2016, 11:23 AM)
hi kart, i just received an email from maybank SG regarding this TT so i will share with you on this.

send money from MY to SG = Maybank Msia charge RM10.60 (include GST) + Maybank SG charge SGD10 for inward remittance

send money from SG to MY = Maybank SG charge SGD 15 for online transfer. Instant transfer would be 0.125% commission (min $20, max $100) + processing fee $10 (of course cheaper with normal online transfer if no rush) [Only thing i have yet to know is much does MY Maybank charge for inward remittance from SG banks.
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Thanks for your input, ShinG3e. rclxms.gif

The instant transfer method you mentioned is done over the bank counter, right?

QUOTE(prince_mk @ Nov 17 2016, 08:04 PM)
I tried ask some posb bank but they refused to let me open acc there coz I don hav working permit or PR.

when did u open d posb ?
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I opened my POSB saving account, when I was a student there.

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Your advice is highly appreciated.  rclxm9.gif
Thanks for your input, ShinG3e.  rclxms.gif

The instant transfer method you mentioned is done over the bank counter, right?

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i think it's online e-banking. similar with our local transfer.
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QUOTE(kart @ Nov 18 2016, 10:21 PM)
Hansel, thank you very much for sharing your tips here.  notworthy.gif

1) What is the best way to remit money from Malaysia saving account to Singapore saving account?

2) You mentioned one good point of having a DBS saving account. As mentioned earlier, I have a POSB and OCBC (Singapore) saving account. Do I still need to open a Maybank Singapore saving account?

Your advice is highly appreciated.  rclxm9.gif
Thanks for your input, ShinG3e.  rclxms.gif

The instant transfer method you mentioned is done over the bank counter, right?
I opened my POSB saving account, when I was a student there.
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QUOTE(xpmm @ Nov 18 2016, 10:45 PM)
if small amount just use tt, big amount use money changer, you deposit rm to them, they deposit sgd into your singapore account.

the purpose of having singapore saving account is to buy singapore stock, open so many saving account for what? one is enough.
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Gentlemen,.. perhaps I'm a bit over-careful, but I would look at it this way. Different bank accounts have different qualities. For SG Banks, if they allow us to open bank accounts, I would open a few. I would capitalise on the good qualities carried by each particular bank acct, eg :-

1) Doing a TT from DBS using DBS REMIT is cheap, so, open one bank acct at DBS.
2) If DBS REMIT is stopped by DBS, and fees start, then to move funds between Msia and Sgp, the cheapest way that I know of would be by Maybank. So, open one at Maybank.
3) Standard Chartered brokerage charge is the cheapest in Sgp, so open another at Stanchart, Sgp...
4) If, seuy suey,... should one day, Stanchart stops its equities service, then can shift over to DBSV if you have a DBS Acct..

BUT : as in everything, there is a downside. The downside to opening too many bank accts is the minimum balance that need to be put into each acct..
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any one try that before? compared to maybank as I try to open sgd account locally.

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 19 2016, 07:09 AM)
Gentlemen,.. perhaps I'm a bit over-careful, but I would look at it this way. Different bank accounts have different qualities. For SG Banks, if they allow us to open bank accounts, I would open a few. I would capitalise on the good qualities carried by each particular bank acct, eg :-

1) Doing a TT from DBS using DBS REMIT is cheap, so, open one bank acct at DBS.
2) If DBS REMIT is stopped by DBS, and fees start, then to move funds between Msia and Sgp, the cheapest way that I know of would be by Maybank. So, open one at Maybank.
3) Standard Chartered brokerage charge is the cheapest in Sgp, so open another at Stanchart, Sgp...
4) If, seuy suey,... should one day, Stanchart stops its equities service, then can shift over to DBSV if you have a DBS Acct..

BUT : as in everything, there is a downside. The downside to opening too many bank accts is the minimum balance that need to be put into each acct..
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Boss Hansel,

I did a transfer from MY MBB (charged RM10) to Sg SC last week. fyi, the fund would be route to Sg MBB (charged me SGD20) then only to Sg SC. the best thing is to have a Sg MBB for this purpose coz transfer frm Sg MBB to all banks in Sg is free.

as a results, total charges was RM10 + SGD20. that s a lot.

I would rather transfer frm MY SC / MY HSBC to Sg SC. Charges was RM30 only.
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DBS needs min SGD3k or they start charging you.
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sgd3k. wow, that s a lot to be parked in a savings acc. better open with Sg SC. 1k in savings. 2k u put in Sg reits with interest {dividend}

btw, what savings acc do they ask u to open ? let me knw coz I m going to visit them next mth.

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if I open dbs Vickers trading acc, wonder would they let me open a savings acc with dbs / posb bank without Employment permit / PR ? anyone have experience kindly share here.
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Thank you for your advice. I shall open a Maybank Singapore saving account, as you recommended. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(xpmm @ Nov 18 2016, 10:45 PM)
if small amount just use tt, big amount use money changer, you deposit rm to them, they deposit sgd into your singapore account.

the purpose of having singapore saving account is to buy singapore stock, open so many saving account for what? one is enough.
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Yes, I agree with you that opening too many saving accounts in Singapore is a hassle and troublesome to maintain. But, as Hansel mentioned, fund transfer between Maybank Malaysia and Maybank Singapore saving account is the second cheapest method, after DBS Remit. In this case, the benefit outweighs the inconvenience.

QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Nov 18 2016, 03:30 PM)
yo. if you are do not want to go singapore just to open an account, you may look into opening a Maybank SG account locally. without travel. just go to some selected few MBB branches to sign the form. It's called iSavvy account. minimum SGD500 to open. only con is that it takes 3-4 weeks for them to validate and approve the acc opening.
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here you go guys. 

http://info.maybank2u.com.sg/pdf/deposits-...cation-form.pdf

this is the application form if you want to print out. if not, just visit the branch (scroll all the way to the bottom to find your nearest branch) and get the form.

do take note on the difference between premier wealth and normal branches. worried that if you visit premier branch but you're not MBB customer then they might reject you.

you would also need to prepare a SGD bank draft. just inform the teller and he/she will provide 2 forms for you.

1 x application form
1 x bank draft form (yellow slip) minimum SGD500

hope the above helps.
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Just to confirm, you are suggesting Maybank iSAVvy Savings Account, not iSAVvy Savings Plus Account, right?

Is it possible that at the time of saving account opening at selected Maybank Malaysia branch, I choose not to buy a SGD 500 bank draft? Once I have the account number for Maybank Singapore iSAVvy Savings Account, I will transfer SGD 500 from my POSB saving account, via FAST.

It should be possible, right? In the iSAVvy form you gave, it is stated:"Please place a deposit within 30 days from the date of account opening.". So, Maybank Singapore should allow the zero account balance within 30 days from the date of account opening.

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Thank you for your advice. I shall open a Maybank Singapore saving account, as you recommended.  rclxms.gif 
Yes, I agree with you that opening too many saving accounts in Singapore is a hassle and troublesome to maintain. But, as Hansel mentioned, fund transfer between Maybank Malaysia and Maybank Singapore saving account is the second cheapest method, after DBS Remit. In this case, the benefit outweighs the inconvenience.
Just to confirm, you are suggesting Maybank iSAVvy Savings Account, not iSAVvy Savings Plus Account, right?

Is it possible that at the time of saving account opening at selected Maybank Malaysia branch, I choose not to buy a SGD 500 bank draft? Once I have the account number for Maybank Singapore iSAVvy Savings Account, I will transfer SGD 500 from my POSB saving account, via FAST.

It should be possible, right? In the iSAVvy form you gave, it is stated:"Please place a deposit within 30 days from the date of account opening.". So, Maybank Singapore should allow the zero account balance within 30 days from the date of account opening.
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I did a transfer from MY MBB (charged RM10) to Sg SC last week. fyi, the fund would be route to Sg MBB (charged me SGD20) then only to Sg SC. the best thing is to have a Sg MBB for this purpose coz transfer frm Sg MBB to all banks in Sg is free.

as a results, total charges was RM10 + SGD20. that s a lot.

I would rather transfer frm MY SC / MY HSBC to Sg SC. Charges was RM30 only.

or u transfer from MY MBB to Sg MBB. then should be RM10 only.
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i opened a mbb isavvy account in spore, through maybank msia, way back in 2009, soon after they started to allow remote opening of account...took a while, don't remember needing to buy a bank draft to open....once open, i initially send a bank draft to the branch for transfer, but later i did maybank2u tt.....

i have a mc debit card, and maybank2u spore access...and a security token for sensitive transactions....

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QUOTE(kart @ Nov 19 2016, 03:04 PM)
Hansel
Thank you for your advice. I shall open a Maybank Singapore saving account, as you recommended.  rclxms.gif 
Yes, I agree with you that opening too many saving accounts in Singapore is a hassle and troublesome to maintain. But, as Hansel mentioned, fund transfer between Maybank Malaysia and Maybank Singapore saving account is the second cheapest method, after DBS Remit. In this case, the benefit outweighs the inconvenience.
Just to confirm, you are suggesting Maybank iSAVvy Savings Account, not iSAVvy Savings Plus Account, right?

Is it possible that at the time of saving account opening at selected Maybank Malaysia branch, I choose not to buy a SGD 500 bank draft? Once I have the account number for Maybank Singapore iSAVvy Savings Account, I will transfer SGD 500 from my POSB saving account, via FAST.

It should be possible, right? In the iSAVvy form you gave, it is stated:"Please place a deposit within 30 days from the date of account opening.". So, Maybank Singapore should allow the zero account balance within 30 days from the date of account opening.
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yes isavvy savings account not plus. just to get started.

yes that is correct. 30 days to transfer minimum SGD500 to the account. the bank draft that I've created is because I have no prior account in SG. of course it's cheaper to transfer from one SG bank to another.

the only issue is the date of account opening. my bank teller mentioned that if the application is done at MY, it will take around 3-4 weeks for the letter to reach your home address so you'll need to keep an eye on it. not to mention you would also need to factor in the application date approval + the delivery of letter to your doorstep. example: might take 7 days to reach u hence left 21 more days only to do the deposit.

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About this Maybank iSavvy account, once created can i transfer money from MBB Malaysia to MBB Sg monthly online? Or do i need to go to the bank to make the transfers? I am planning to make a savings account actually at Sg.
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Checked with most banks in Singapore and all their Customer Service Reps mentioned that you will need a valid working permit/ student visa at least to open an account there.
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 19 2016, 07:09 AM)
Gentlemen,.. perhaps I'm a bit over-careful, but I would look at it this way. Different bank accounts have different qualities. For SG Banks, if they allow us to open bank accounts, I would open a few. I would capitalise on the good qualities carried by each particular bank acct, eg :-

1) Doing a TT from DBS using DBS REMIT is cheap, so, open one bank acct at DBS.
2) If DBS REMIT is stopped by DBS, and fees start, then to move funds between Msia and Sgp, the cheapest way that I know of would be by Maybank. So, open one at Maybank.
3) Standard Chartered brokerage charge is the cheapest in Sgp, so open another at Stanchart, Sgp...
4) If, seuy suey,... should one day, Stanchart stops its equities service, then can shift over to DBSV if you have a DBS Acct..

BUT : as in everything, there is a downside. The downside to opening too many bank accts is the minimum balance that need to be put into each acct..
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ah talking about brokerage fee... MBB SG recently emailed me offering 2 type of account brokerage

KE Trade (Cash) Account
- A trading limit will be given for you to buy the shares first. Settlement to be done later.
- Shares are held in The Central Depositary (CDP)
- Commission rates are 0.275%, minimum of SGD25

KE Trade Prefunded Account
- You need to transfer funds into your account first. Funds that you leave in your trust balance earns an interest rate of 0.32%
- Shares are held with Maybank Kim Eng in a segregated sub-account
- Commission rates are 0.18%, minimum of SGD10

Can compare with SC's SGD10 brokerage? biggrin.gif
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ah talking about brokerage fee... MBB SG recently emailed me offering 2 type of account brokerage

KE Trade (Cash) Account
- A trading limit will be given for you to buy the shares first. Settlement to be done later.
- Shares are held in The Central Depositary (CDP)
- Commission rates are 0.275%, minimum of SGD25

KE Trade Prefunded Account
- You need to transfer funds into your account first. Funds that you leave in your trust balance earns an interest rate of 0.32%
- Shares are held with Maybank Kim Eng in a segregated sub-account
- Commission rates are 0.18%, minimum of SGD10

Can compare with SC's SGD10 brokerage?  biggrin.gif
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The second one is damn good shocking.gif

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The second one is damn good shocking.gif
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for more info, click here. http://www.maybank-ke.com.sg/pricing/pricing-listing/stocks/

sent by the dealer.
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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Nov 20 2016, 07:08 PM)
ah talking about brokerage fee... MBB SG recently emailed me offering 2 type of account brokerage

KE Trade (Cash) Account
- A trading limit will be given for you to buy the shares first. Settlement to be done later.
- Shares are held in The Central Depositary (CDP)
- Commission rates are 0.275%, minimum of SGD25

KE Trade Prefunded Account
- You need to transfer funds into your account first. Funds that you leave in your trust balance earns an interest rate of 0.32%
- Shares are held with Maybank Kim Eng in a segregated sub-account
- Commission rates are 0.18%, minimum of SGD10

Can compare with SC's SGD10 brokerage?  biggrin.gif
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thanks so much for this info.

the SGD 10 brokerage is good.
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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Nov 20 2016, 07:08 PM)
ah talking about brokerage fee... MBB SG recently emailed me offering 2 type of account brokerage

KE Trade (Cash) Account
- A trading limit will be given for you to buy the shares first. Settlement to be done later.
- Shares are held in The Central Depositary (CDP)
- Commission rates are 0.275%, minimum of SGD25

KE Trade Prefunded Account
- You need to transfer funds into your account first. Funds that you leave in your trust balance earns an interest rate of 0.32%
- Shares are held with Maybank Kim Eng in a segregated sub-account
- Commission rates are 0.18%, minimum of SGD10

Can compare with SC's SGD10 brokerage?  biggrin.gif
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Well,... with all other things being equal, KE is even better than Stanchart because the comm rate is 0.18% compared to Stanchart's 0.20%. Don't know abt other aspects of KE Trade, don't use them,...

But yeah, if it is easier to open in KE, go ahead !
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I checked the website - http://info.maybank2u.com.sg/personal/depo...gs-account.aspx

It's says foreigners must have passport and employment pass to open iSavvy savings account. Has anyone tried opening the account and is successful without EP?

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I checked the website - http://info.maybank2u.com.sg/personal/depo...gs-account.aspx

It's says foreigners must have passport and employment pass to open iSavvy savings account. Has anyone tried opening the account and is successful without EP?
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this applies only if you apply at Maybank SG.

if you apply at Maybank MY then no need.
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I checked the website - http://info.maybank2u.com.sg/personal/depo...gs-account.aspx

It's says foreigners must have passport and employment pass to open iSavvy savings account. Has anyone tried opening the account and is successful without EP?
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this applies only if you apply at Maybank SG.

if you apply at Maybank MY then no need.
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That's right. Apply via Maybank Malaysia. Hopefully the process is still there.
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Mind to know can i open savings account in SIn here at Msia just through branch ?
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For Maybank iSAVvy Savings Account,

1. Can I register my Malaysian mobile phone number, for receiving Transaction Authorisation Code (TAC) via SMS, to be used in Maybank Singapore Online Banking website? I do not have a Singapore mobile phone number.

2. Once the saving account has been opened in Maybank Singapore, they will send Maybank Platinum Debit Card, and Security Token to our residential address in Malaysia, say after around 2 weeks later, right? Hopefully, upon receipt of the card via mail, I can activate the debit card in Maybank Singapore Online Banking website, without using a Maybank ATM.

3. As long as my balance in the saving account is more than S$ 500, there should not be any other fee incurred to the account, right?

4. Is it possible to select a specific branch to be our home branch? For example, I want Maybank Bedok branch to be my home branch in Singapore.

Thank you very much for your information. notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(kart @ Nov 25 2016, 07:29 AM)
ShinG3e

For Maybank iSAVvy Savings Account,

1. Can I register my Malaysian mobile phone number, for receiving Transaction Authorisation Code (TAC) via SMS, to be used in Maybank Singapore Online Banking website? I do not have a Singapore mobile phone number. Yea in the papers it is registered your MY mobile number. It will send the TAC there.

2. Once the saving account has been opened in Maybank Singapore, they will send Maybank Platinum Debit Card, and Security Token to our residential address in Malaysia, say after around 2 weeks later, right? Hopefully, upon receipt of the card via mail, I can activate the debit card in Maybank Singapore Online Banking website, without using a Maybank ATM.
Yes you can activate it online. There is an instruction in the letetr for you no worries.

3. As long as my balance in the saving account is more than S$ 500, there should not be any other fee incurred to the account, right? 
Yea. Just take note on the annual fee for using the debit card (can't recall how much they charge). and once awhile, make 1-2 transaction to keep the account active.

4. Is it possible to select a specific branch to be our home branch? For example, I want Maybank Bedok branch to be my home branch in Singapore.

Thank you very much for your information.  notworthy.gif
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no. 4 - that one i'm not sure to be honest. i can't give you an answer for that i'm afraid... sad.gif

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1. Yes, can use msian no...

2. Last time must activate on a spore ATM....not sure now...token no need activation...

3. Last time no fees but check current conditions...

4. They defaulted me to their main branch downtown at battery Rd...don't think there was an option to choose a specific branch...
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I planned for another trading acc besides Sg Std Ctd.

anyone have Sg MBB trading acc ?

iOCBC acc, the commission is bit expensive. over sgd20 (min).

now I m looking at dbs Vickers. any advise.

planning going Sg very soon.
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In the maybank form, they asked to fill up reason wanting to open the account. What did you guys put?
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In the maybank form, they asked to fill up reason wanting to open the account. What did you guys put?
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saving?....

it's after all, a savings account....
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I thought they won't allow cos of currency controls
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They are trying, bro,... let's observe closely,... if this works,... lots of people in MY can do it this way,... no need to travel all the way to SG.
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saving?....

it's after all, a savings account....
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i just put Saving/investment.

I ask the officer what people normally write.. in their forms.

He say they normally write:

For rental collection; to pay for goods; To buy things..

For Subang Jaya branch.. He will send documents every Friday. Cut off time will be Thursday.


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i just  put Saving/investment.

I ask the officer what people normally write.. in their forms.

He say they normally write:

For rental collection; to pay for goods; To buy things..

For Subang Jaya branch.. He will send documents every Friday. Cut off time will be Thursday.
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Which subang jaya branch do you go to?
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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Nov 25 2016, 12:20 PM)
no. 4 - that one i'm not sure to be honest. i can't give you an answer for that i'm afraid...  sad.gif
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No worries, ShinG3e. You are already very helpful to us here, and I cannot thank you more. notworthy.gif

Here, we may not know everything, but we try to share our real-life experience of using the banking product, for the benefit of everyone here. smile.gif These information is way better than the misleading information, given by the clueless Customer Service Officers.

As shown in http://info.maybank2u.com.sg/personal/depo...debitcards.aspx, the Maybank Platinum Debit Card, bundled with Maybank iSAVvy Savings Account, does not have any annual fee. That is good. rclxm9.gif

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No worries, ShinG3e. You are already very helpful to us here, and I cannot thank you more.  notworthy.gif 

Here, we may not know everything, but we try to share our real-life experience of using the banking product, for the benefit of everyone here.  smile.gif  These information is way better than the misleading information, given by the clueless Customer Service Officers.

As shown in http://info.maybank2u.com.sg/personal/depo...debitcards.aspx, the Maybank Platinum Debit Card, bundled with Maybank iSAVvy Savings Account, does not have any annual fee. That is good.  rclxm9.gif
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icon_rolleyes.gif nice to hear that there is no annual fee then. cause pretty pointless to get charged annual fee for a card that we never intend to use.
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icon_rolleyes.gif nice to hear that there is no annual fee then. cause pretty pointless to get charged annual fee for a card that we never intend to use.
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It is useful when you travel to Singapore and need cash or buy things....also, if it is cheap money to you, can use to pay for goods and purchases online and overseas...

It's 2.4 to me, and I have used it to pay for hotels in Japan...
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It is useful when you travel to Singapore and need cash or buy things....also, if it is cheap money to you, can use to pay for goods and purchases online and overseas...

It's 2.4 to me, and I have used it to pay for hotels in Japan...
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that is true. just that i don't frequent sg at the moment. perhaps in the future. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 18 2016, 02:59 PM)

3) At a minimum, open the eSavers, SGD and USD Settlement Accts.

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I am quite new and have not bought share before. Apologies, if my questions seem silly to experts like you all. blush.gif

What I know is that the we use online trading account to buy share (in Singapore Exchange, SGX, in this context). Then, what is a settlement account, and what is the difference between an online trading account and a settlement account? Why do we need a settlement account, to buy shares in SGX?

Yes, I tried to google "settlement account", but the meaning is unclear for a layman like me.

I already have a CDP (Singapore Central Depository) account.

Thank you for your information. notworthy.gif

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Hansel, prince_mk ,managed to open my DBS MCA at Marina Bay biggrin.gif rclxm9.gif icon_idea.gif
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Considering I am currently unemployed, it's a miracle they let me open. blink.gif

Here's how I manage to open. Requirement by DBS to open account with them
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1) Passport and IC (for Malaysian Citizens)
2) Proof of billing
3) Documents justifying request for account opening.


No 3 was problematic. I decided to go the way of opening a Philips account first. Once I opened that, I had a copy of application proof which I can give to the bank. They were problematic as well and refuse to open without a Singapore bank account. But somehow they told me we will open for you and hang on to your application unless you can provide us the Singapore bank account no. They did give me a proof of application. This was done at Toa Payoh branch.

Headed over to Marina Bay. Told them want to open Vickers and MCA. Apparently one cannot open Vickers without a bank account. So had to deal with MCA first.

Note:
Now MCA have foreign charges regardless when you open starting next monday. All MCA have free first 5 years annual fee waiver. Then after the 5 years, you are required to pay SGD12 for another 5 years = SGD2.40/year.


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Hansel, prince_mk ,managed to open my DBS MCA at Marina Bay  biggrin.gif  rclxm9.gif  icon_idea.gif
Thank you sifu  notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

Considering I am currently unemployed, it's a miracle they let me open.  blink.gif

Here's how I manage to open. Requirement by DBS to open account with them
No 3 was problematic. I decided to go the way of opening a Philips account first. Once I opened that, I had a copy of application proof which I can give to the bank. They were problematic as well and refuse to open without a Singapore bank account. But somehow they told me we will open for you and hang on to your application unless you can provide us the Singapore bank account no. They did give me a proof of application. This was done at Toa Payoh branch.

Headed over to Marina Bay. Told them want to open Vickers and MCA. Apparently one cannot open Vickers without a bank account. So had to deal with MCA first.

Note:
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It is really a challenge recently even with proof of CDP account. However, it still can be done with much efforts.
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For Maybank SIN account, do we need to maintain transactions in & out every other month to keep the account "activated"?   If not, what is the penalty?
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Congrats for opening the DBS MCA account.  rclxms.gif

It is really a challenge recently even with proof of CDP account. However, it still can be done with much efforts.
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You have to prove to them on what grounds you are opening an account for. In other words, a good reason would be for Salary Bank in (Sg work permit) or bills to pay (address in Singapore) or investment purposes (like mentioned SGX-CDP account). If not, most banks will not allow account opening.

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You have to have a minimum $3000 balance in the account at all times.
You have to prove to them on what grounds you are opening an account for. In other words, a good reason would be for Salary Bank in (Sg work permit) or bills to pay (address in Singapore) or investment purposes (like mentioned SGX-CDP account). If not, most banks will not allow account opening.
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Agreed. That's why I showed them my Philips application with chop from Philips branch. Then I told them I want to open Vickers.
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Agreed. That's why I showed them my Philips application with chop from Philips branch. Then I told them I want to open Vickers.
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You are lucky that they allow you to open. My case, I apply to open investment account with Maybank KE and I went to Maybank to open savings account(produce copy of the application and even ask them to further verify with Maybank KE remiser) and they still rejected saying they need approved letter on the investment account opening before they allow to open savings account.

Anyway, good that you opened DBS MCA. Shouldn't have problem on the investment account opening once you have the savings account.
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Hi all,
First time on this thread and read thru the last 10 pages of the forum as some of them were quite old (<2013) which i presume outdated. Quick question, can i
1) Open a SG bank account (Prefer bank with Malaysia account too, e.g. OCBC, MAYBANK, CIMB etc) ?
2) If (1) is yes, what is the requirement ?
- Can i apply online ? I do not wish to fly to Singapore just to open an account
- Prefer bank with free annual fee as i don't think i will use the facility (ATM, Debit card etc) only use Internet Banking
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I went over there. Maybank no reply doh.gif I better not wait. Or else later cannot open.
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Apparently the Singapore Government are very strict laws on currency control and anti money laundering. It is very hard to open an account at Singapore now compared to many years ago. Yes if you did managed to open one, you are one very lucky man.
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Hi all,
First time on this thread and read thru the last 10 pages of the forum as some of them were quite old (<2013) which i presume outdated.  Quick question, can i
1) Open a SG bank account (Prefer  bank with Malaysia account too, e.g. OCBC, MAYBANK, CIMB etc) ?
2) If (1) is yes, what is the requirement ?
- Can i apply online ? I do not wish to fly to Singapore just to open an account
- Prefer bank with free annual fee as i don't think i will use the facility (ATM, Debit card etc) only use Internet Banking
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Read through the previous pages and you will find your answer. There are two banks mentioned.
1) Maybank

2) HSBC Premier.
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Hi all,
First time on this thread and read thru the last 10 pages of the forum as some of them were quite old (<2013) which i presume outdated.  Quick question, can i
1) Open a SG bank account (Prefer  bank with Malaysia account too, e.g. OCBC, MAYBANK, CIMB etc) ?
2) If (1) is yes, what is the requirement ?
- Can i apply online ? I do not wish to fly to Singapore just to open an account
- Prefer bank with free annual fee as i don't think i will use the facility (ATM, Debit card etc) only use Internet Banking
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Opening account will require you to do it face or face unless you are loaded. Just take 2 days off. I use 2 days. Took night train. Came back the following day night train and reach KL in the morning (before 7).
1. Yes. But it's getting harder. Even maybank have tighten. Never hear any news from them. Will give them a call on Monday. sad.gif Standard Chartered, HSBC, Must be priority banking with them and priority customer with Singapore side as well. For Standard Chartered, you still have to go down as Malaysia will book appointment for you.

2. Usually banks in Singapore charge a fall below fees. Not annual fees like Malaysia. Requirement usually work permit/student visa from Singapore. That's the major road block. Requirement for HSBC and Standard Chartered = pockets must be loaded.
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With the introduction of 1.5% charged against the foreign currency amt notes being deposited into or withdrawn from the DBS MCA, things are not as attractive as before. We must go to the other banks which provide free service for currency notes being dep and withdrawn.
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Apparently the Singapore Government are very strict laws on currency control and anti money laundering. It is very hard to open an account at Singapore now compared to many years ago. Yes if you did managed to open one, you are one very lucky man.
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With the introduction of 1.5% charged against the foreign currency amt notes being deposited into or withdrawn from the DBS MCA, things are not as attractive as before. We must go to the other banks which provide free service for currency notes being dep and withdrawn.
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OCBC & UOB have MCA. But they need min SGD5k or else there's a fall below fees. The question is whether you can open or not? hmm.gif Btw, do you keep the money below that amount and pay the penalty or just keep that amount there?

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THANKS TO THE 1MDB EVENT !!!!!

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Agreed. sad.gif

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 8 2017, 03:41 AM)
With the introduction of 1.5% charged against the foreign currency amt notes being deposited into or withdrawn from the DBS MCA, things are not as attractive as before. We must go to the other banks which provide free service for currency notes being dep and withdrawn.
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Actually Hansel, we don't need other banks. Why? One can use Interactive Broker and exchange SGD > USD/ASX/HKD online and real time (people who have used that site claims their rates are better than money changer rates.)

Eg.
1. Deposit SGD into MCA > transfer money to IB in SGD (they accept SGD) > convert using IB exchange > buy Manulife US REITS from IB (they have access to SGX to).

2. Deposit SGD into MCA > transfer money to IB in SGD (they accept SGD) > convert using IB exchange > buy stocks from ASX.

Is this doable? But IB charges USD10/month unless you are an active trader. sad.gif

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 8 2017, 08:32 AM)
OCBC & UOB have MCA. But they need min SGD5k or else there's a fall below fees. The question is whether you can open or not? hmm.gif Btw, do you keep the money below that amount and pay the penalty or just keep that amount there?
Agreed.  sad.gif
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It rarely falls below in the last two years, because I've been converting out my RM into foreign currencies.

Edited : what do yo know abt UOB and OCBC being able to accept foreign currency notes over the counter ?

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what I did back in 2015 was to fly down to SG during MALAYSIA public holiday, eg: Malaysia Day, Thaipusam, Quran etc..then u can save on taking days off from work..also, now with many budget air, u can go down to SG with the earliest flight, and come back on the same day...opening an account should not take more than half a day.

in 2015, i managed to open an OCBC bank acc linked with trading acc, giving them the reason I want to trade with OCBC securities...

good luck guys...

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 8 2017, 09:04 AM)
It rarely falls below in the last two years, because I've been converting out my RM into foreign currencies.

Edited : what do yo know abt UOB and OCBC being able to accept foreign currency notes over the counter ?
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I think it would be doable since my uncle told me he went SIngapore, managed to exchange old currency notes with banks in Singapore for new currency. He didn't mention which currency. Another alternative is as below. V


QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 8 2017, 08:54 AM)
Actually Hansel, we don't need other banks. Why? One can use Interactive Broker and exchange SGD > USD/ASX/HKD online and real time (people who have used that site claims their rates are better than money changer rates.)

Eg.
1. Deposit SGD into MCA > transfer money to IB in SGD (they accept SGD) > convert using IB exchange > buy Manulife US REITS from IB (they have access to SGX to).

2. Deposit SGD into MCA > transfer money to IB in SGD (they accept SGD) > convert using IB exchange > buy stocks from ASX.

Is this doable? But IB charges USD10/month unless you are an active trader.  sad.gif
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To prevent IB from charging us the USD10, can use IB to buy S-REITS provided that the commission they earned is enough to offset the USD10/month. But I am not sure about whether the stocks will be under custodian account or under our own account.
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Bro Ram,... a few things needed to fine tune here in yr tactics with IB,.. can't write now,.. need to go change money !!!
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 8 2017, 01:01 AM)

2. Usually banks in Singapore charge a fall below fees. Not annual fees like Malaysia. Requirement usually work permit/student visa from Singapore. That's the major road block. Requirement for HSBC and Standard Chartered = pockets must be loaded.
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I have to agree on that. There was once a Business Manager told me directly that they are not interested in opening an account for you if you are just planning to open an account with a few hundred dollar balance so that you can top up your Netts card and buy things online. doh.gif Sinkis are very 'direct' people.

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THANKS TO THE 1MDB EVENT !!!!!

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Not really lar bro. The Singapore government started implementing anti money laundering laws quite some time ago. Not really because of 1MDB. Anyway, Singapore is favorite hotspot for the Indonesian Chinese business people. They were depositing so much money in Singapore that the Indonesian government had to plead them to bring their money back to Indonesia by giving them clemency on tax evasion and money laundering. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Vector88 @ Jan 8 2017, 09:10 AM)
what I did back in 2015 was to fly down to SG during MALAYSIA public holiday, eg: Malaysia Day, Thaipusam, Quran etc..then u can save on taking days off from work..also, now with many budget air, u can go down to SG with the earliest flight, and come back on the same day...opening an account should not take more than half a day.

in 2015, i managed to open an OCBC bank acc linked with trading acc, giving them the reason I want to trade with OCBC securities...

good luck guys...
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Its very different now. First thing they ask you if you want to open an account now is

1) Work Permit / Employment Pass

2) Singapore Residence Address.
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I have to agree on that. There was once a Business Manager told me directly that they are not interested in opening an account for you if you are just planning to open an account with a few hundred dollar balance so that you can top up your Netts card and buy things online.  doh.gif  Sinkis are very 'direct' people.
Not really lar bro. The Singapore government started implementing anti money laundering laws quite some time ago. Not really because of 1MDB. Anyway, Singapore is favorite hotspot for the Indonesian Chinese business people. They were depositing so much money in Singapore that the Indonesian government had to plead them to bring their money back to Indonesia by giving them clemency on tax evasion and money laundering. laugh.gif
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I experienced that. I asked about account inactivity and the person attending to me ask me back this question, "For what you want to open account and keep it inactive?' I was shakehead.gif doh.gif

QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jan 8 2017, 03:53 PM)
Its very different now. First thing they ask you if you want to open an account now is

1) Work Permit / Employment Pass

2) Singapore Residence Address.
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Correction. They ask the following in order
1) Are you a Singaporean?
2) Are you working here?

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I experienced that. I asked about account inactivity and the person attending to me ask me back this question, "For what you want to open account and keep it inactive?' I was  shakehead.gif  doh.gif
Correction. They ask the following in order
1) Are you a Singaporean?
2) Are you working here?
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My version is after you told them you are a foreigner but not working here. laugh.gif

IMO most bank staffs in Singapore" die die follow SOP. Cannot corner corner like here." laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 8 2017, 09:35 AM)
I think it would be doable since my uncle told me he went SIngapore, managed to exchange old currency notes with banks in Singapore for new currency. He didn't mention which currency. Another alternative is as below. V
To prevent IB from charging us the USD10, can use IB to buy S-REITS provided that the commission they earned is enough to offset the USD10/month. But I am not sure about whether the stocks will be under custodian account or under our own account.
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Bro,.. for IB, if you are able to bank in only SGD, to me,.. this is not good enough. I would prefer to have an account that can accept foreign currency notes in different currencies.

I would be quite positive that IB provides a custodian acct., and no CDP holding.

My questions for UOB and OCBC is more like : how much do they charge for OTC cash banking-in and withdrawal ?
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 9 2017, 07:39 AM)
Bro,.. for IB, if you are able to bank in only SGD, to me,.. this is not good enough. I would prefer to have an account that can accept foreign currency notes in different currencies.

I would be quite positive that IB provides a custodian acct., and no CDP holding.

My questions for UOB and OCBC is more like : how much do they charge for OTC cash banking-in and withdrawal ?
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Bro, they offer instant real time exchange. So if you want USD, you can just exchange SGD > USD. IF you need SGD, just change over. No point hopping from one bank to another. Why? I believed this is just a sign of early things to come. If one bank can implement chanrges (DBS), what makes you think the other 2 won't follow? hmm.gif

Banks likes free money. So if they can charge customer with charges, I believed they will especially if their competitor start charging.

Fees for
UOB Global Currency Account
OCBC Global Currency Account

OCBC 1% for withdrawal and deposit.
UOB not sure.

More info:
https://forum.singaporeexpats.com/viewtopic.php?t=94836

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1. Standard Chartered Bank, you need to have World Partner status at least which according to official guidelines require S$50,000 or equivalent but at the branch I was told S$20k only. You have to apply for this status at the branch and it takes few days to process. Once processed, there is no need to maintain this amount, as they don't review it automatically. Cash FCY deposits / withdrawals are free of charge over the counter.


May not be relevant anymore as it's 2013. Now's 2017.

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 9 2017, 08:03 AM)
Bro, they offer instant real time exchange. So if you want USD, you can just exchange SGD > USD. IF you need SGD, just change over. No point hopping from one bank to another. Why? I believed this is just a sign of early things to come. If one bank can implement chanrges (DBS), what makes you think the other 2 won't follow?  hmm.gif

Banks likes free money. So if they can charge customer with charges, I believed they will especially if their competitor start charging.

Fees for
UOB Global Currency Account
OCBC Global Currency Account

OCBC 1% for withdrawal and deposit.
UOB not sure.

More info:
https://forum.singaporeexpats.com/viewtopic.php?t=94836

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May not be relevant anymore as it's 2013. Now's 2017.
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Bro,.. it's not abt exchanging,.. Exchanging will cause us to incur 'spread expense'.. I would prefer 'no-charge' direct bank-in in the currency that I preferred, hence, I control the spread... don't know if you understand or not. Hmm,... it's a bit hard to illustrate via a forum like this,... we seem to be talking in opposite directions. ...

Yes, banks will charge fees, but there are one or two banks now which are thinking of opening their doors to direct bank-in of notes without charges. They have not confirmed yet. Yes, I agree,...we try not to hop. But if we have limited capabilities in opening accounts, we have to hop. The moment we can open in one bank, then,...

UOB is expensive,... OCBC is expensive,...
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 9 2017, 08:31 AM)
Bro,.. it's not abt exchanging,.. Exchanging will cause us to incur 'spread expense'.. I would prefer 'no-charge' direct bank-in in the currency that I preferred, hence, I control the spread... don't know if you understand or not. Hmm,... it's a bit hard to illustrate via a forum like this,... we seem to be talking in opposite directions. ...

Yes, banks will charge fees, but there are one or two banks now which are thinking of opening their doors to direct bank-in of notes without charges. They have not confirmed yet. Yes, I agree,...we try not to hop. But if we have limited capabilities in opening accounts, we have to hop. The moment we can open in one bank, then,...

UOB is expensive,... OCBC is expensive,...
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I understand about the spread. But if it can give better rates than Moneychanger (in SG/MY), it won't be much of a problem. Try asking AVFAN and rjb123 regarding the exchange rate. Is it worth it or not or is it better to direct bank in.

Do share with us what bank after you have tested. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 8 2017, 09:35 AM)
I think it would be doable since my uncle told me he went SIngapore, managed to exchange old currency notes with banks in Singapore for new currency. He didn't mention which currency. Another alternative is as below. V
To prevent IB from charging us the USD10, can use IB to buy S-REITS provided that the commission they earned is enough to offset the USD10/month. But I am not sure about whether the stocks will be under custodian account or under our own account.
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i do not know much how IB works with SGX/SGD as i only dwell in USD/US stocks.

i wud think IB is custodian account for all, no indivdual.

QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 9 2017, 09:05 AM)
I understand about the spread. But if it can give better rates than Moneychanger (in SG/MY), it won't be much of a problem. Try asking AVFAN and rjb123 regarding the exchange rate. Is it worth it or not or is it better to direct bank in.

Do share with us what bank after you have tested.  smile.gif
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IB will accept the currencies USD or SGD when u bank into their account.

The question of exchange rates and spread arises only when u buy those currencies at YOUR bank with YOUR currency.

e.g. buying SGD with RM at msia banks will kill you as the spread now is like 2.2%.

buy USD with RM at local banks not too bad.

buying those currencies in SG will be much better, i would think.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 9 2017, 09:05 AM)
I understand about the spread. But if it can give better rates than Moneychanger (in SG/MY), it won't be much of a problem. Try asking AVFAN and rjb123 regarding the exchange rate. Is it worth it or not or is it better to direct bank in.

Do share with us what bank after you have tested.  smile.gif
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 9 2017, 09:26 AM)
IB will accept the currencies USD or SGD when u bank into their account.

The question of exchange rates and spread arises only when u buy those currencies at YOUR bank with YOUR currency.

e.g. buying SGD with RM at msia banks will kill you as the spread now is like 2.2%.

buy USD with RM at local banks not too bad.

buying those currencies in SG will be much better, i would think.
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If an institution allows direct bank-in of foreign currency notes without charges, then you control the spread. When you control the spread. a whole new world of currency exchange tactic opens up to you in terms of which currency you wish to use, where to exchange, and another factor ! From my experiments and experience, if I control the spread, I stand to gain all and nothing to lose.



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becareful Singky banks (unsure about Malaysian banks) has this policy if your account is dormant within a few months (you need to read the application form how many exactly) it will start to charge you banking fees and deduct direct from your account until almost zero then by law it will close the account and surrender it to the govt


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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 9 2017, 09:59 AM)
If an institution allows direct bank-in of foreign currency notes without charges, then you control the spread. When you control the spread. a whole new world of currency exchange tactic opens up to you in terms of which currency you wish to use, where to exchange, and another factor ! From my experiments and experience, if I control the spread, I stand to gain all and nothing to lose.
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if u have the means to "control" the spread, it is surely to yr advantage!

but i guess this is only for ultra premium customers in special banks.

as far as brokers like IB are concerned, they dun care how u get/buy the fx, they accept face value what u bank in, no other charge.

when u withdraw, same, in that currency. the rest will depend which bank u stipulate the money goes to.
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becareful Singky banks (unsure about Malaysian banks) has this policy if your account is dormant within a few months (you need to read the application form how many exactly) it will start to charge you banking fees and deduct direct from your account until almost zero then by law it will close the account and surrender it to the govt
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12 months for DBS and requires debiting to count as an activity. Asked their customer service. If you have 2 account, very simple. Transfer from one account to another and back to "trick the bank" into thinking it's active.

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12 months for DBS and requires debiting to count as an activity. Asked their customer service. If you have 2 account, very simple. Transfer from one account to another and back to "trick the bank" into thinking it's active.
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what is the interest rate for a normal savings account in DBS bank? Also the FD rates?
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 9 2017, 10:08 AM)
if u have the means to "control" the spread, it is surely to yr advantage!

but i guess this is only for ultra premium customers in special banks.

as far as brokers like IB are concerned, they dun care how u get/buy the fx, they accept face value what u bank in, no other charge.

when u withdraw, same, in that currency. the rest will depend which bank u stipulate the money goes to.
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Yes bro,... thumbsup.gif

Does IB allow banking-in and withdrawal of foreign currency notes, eg the USDs without charging 1% ?
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what is the interest rate for a normal savings account in DBS bank? Also the FD rates?
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 9 2017, 10:45 AM)
Practically 0% (SA is 0.05% FD 12 months = 0.35%) Welcome to the world of singapore where interest is freaking low  mad.gif  vmad.gif
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They want their people to invest instead of keeping the money under the pillow or biscuit tong or bank acc laugh.gif

Better than Japan where you need to pay a fee to keep money in the bank laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 9 2017, 10:27 AM)
Yes bro,...  thumbsup.gif

Does IB allow banking-in and withdrawal of foreign currency notes, eg the USDs without charging 1% ?
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i hv not done much transfers, multi currency with IB.

details like this, best to ask rjb123 in this thread:
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 9 2017, 04:49 PM)
i hv not done much transfers, multi currency with IB.

details like this, best to ask rjb123 in this thread:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3396549
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Tq bro,.. I think no need to ask,... surely can't accept foreign notes,...
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 10 2017, 11:58 AM)
Tq bro,.. I think no need to ask,... surely can't accept foreign notes,...
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Actually according to his way, he fund his IB account using SGD. Then switch over the currency on IB platform to buy ETF from LSE.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 10 2017, 01:24 PM)
Actually according to his way, he fund his IB account using SGD. Then switch over the currency on IB platform to buy ETF from LSE.
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I have replied in the other thread, bro,...

What I understood that is being done by rjb123 is different from what you said in the above.
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prince_mk, Hansel, I have asked Merchant Trade, they say it will take 1 working days to transfer the money over to SG. Max RM50k/day/person. However to get around that limit, can ask family member to transfer RM50k/person. So if got 1 wife, 2 kids, can transfer max RM200k/day thumbup.gif

Bad news is they don't accept SGD. They only accept RM. Each transfer cost RM22. Cheaper than banks. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 8 2017, 03:41 AM)
With the introduction of 1.5% charged against the foreign currency amt notes being deposited into or withdrawn from the DBS MCA, things are not as attractive as before. We must go to the other banks which provide free service for currency notes being dep and withdrawn.
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quite pissed with this as well, jez found out yesterday bout that % charges. From the read of the page, it looks like just physical deposit/withdrawal at the bank right?
Does it apply for online transaction as well
http://www.dbs.com.sg/personal/deposits/fees.page

Any idea which Spore banks provide free service for $$ dep & withdrawn?
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 8 2017, 03:41 AM)
With the introduction of 1.5% charged against the foreign currency amt notes being deposited into or withdrawn from the DBS MCA, things are not as attractive as before. We must go to the other banks which provide free service for currency notes being dep and withdrawn.
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quite pissed with this as well, jez found out yesterday bout that % charges. From the read of the page, it looks like just physical deposit/withdrawal at the bank right?
Does it apply for online transaction as well
http://www.dbs.com.sg/personal/deposits/fees.page

Any idea which Spore banks provide free service for $$ dep & withdrawn?
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QUOTE(J_Vansen_S @ Jan 11 2017, 11:21 AM)
quite pissed with this as well, jez found out yesterday bout that % charges. From the read of the page, it looks like just physical deposit/withdrawal at the bank right?
Does it apply for online transaction as well
http://www.dbs.com.sg/personal/deposits/fees.page

Any idea which Spore banks provide free service for $$ dep & withdrawn?
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Bro,... for SGD deposits/withdrawals, it is still FREE,... please do NOT be confused,... everywhere in the world, the depositing of the natural currency of that country into the banking system is FREE, generally,... well, I don't know of any ctry that charges for this. Unless,... clients are encouraged to use the ATMs,.. in which case the charges would be minimal,...

The beauty of DBS earlier was : EVEN THE DEPOSITING AND WITHDRAWAL OF FOREIGN CURRENCIES WAS FREE ! When this happens, we can control the spread of currency exchange already,....anyway,... there is no more of this free meal,.. so, no point talking abt this anymore, unless another bank starts to open up too.
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How about maybank SG? If we have maybank account in Malaysia we can open maybank SG and link both account into our maybank2u and then we can have multiple currencies in one profile . Need to ask how much they charge for transferring RM to SGD from maybank MY to maybank SG.
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QUOTE(Mikeyz @ Jan 11 2017, 07:32 PM)
How about maybank SG? If we have maybank account in Malaysia we can open maybank SG and link both account into our maybank2u and then we can have multiple currencies in one profile . Need to ask how much they charge for transferring RM to SGD from maybank MY to maybank SG.
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For me Maybank MY no reply until now. Already 1 month +. No call nothing, no package.

Since I everyday I wait, chances of opening are becoming slimmer. Decide to head down myself.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 11 2017, 10:31 AM)
prince_mk, Hansel, I have asked Merchant Trade, they say it will take 1 working days to transfer the money over to SG. Max RM50k/day/person. However to get around that limit, can ask family member to transfer RM50k/person. So if got 1 wife, 2 kids, can transfer max RM200k/day  thumbup.gif

Bad news is they don't accept SGD. They only accept RM. Each transfer cost RM22. Cheaper than banks. biggrin.gif
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Usually I would either ask my family members to exchange sgd & rm or I drop by Sg to deposit into acc while have 2 days break there.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 11 2017, 07:34 PM)
For me Maybank MY no reply until now. Already 1 month +. No call nothing, no package.

Since I everyday I wait, chances of opening are becoming slimmer. Decide to head down myself.
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I find Maybank service is not as great as before already after they had the retrenchment and branches closed down.
Yeah do update us . Thanks

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I find Maybank service is not as great as before already after they had the retrenchment and branches closed down.
Yeah do update us . Thanks
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I already open my account with DBS bank.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 12 2017, 07:13 AM)
I already open my account with DBS bank.
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Forget Tiger bank. We try not to have anything to do with Malaysia at the moment. laugh.gif

DBS didnt ask you for employment pass? tongue.gif
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Forget Tiger bank. We try not to have anything to do with Malaysia at the moment. laugh.gif

DBS didnt ask you for employment pass? tongue.gif
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Nope. Because I told them I am a fresh graduate. sweat.gif
Banks in other country are run separably compare to the ones in Malaysia. Anyway, managed to open a CIMB account online (after getting DBS) so that I can make my DBS account "active" by transferring funds from CIMB > DBS > CIMB with my limited funds.

Will try and see if can get Standard Chartered/Maybank in my next trip. If can, will close my CIMB laugh.gif

Reason: CIMB only 2 branches doh.gif

But looking at exchange rate, CIMB TT rates are better than Maybank.

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 11 2017, 07:04 PM)
Bro,... for SGD deposits/withdrawals, it is still FREE,... please do NOT be confused,... everywhere in the world, the depositing of the natural currency of that country into the banking system is FREE, generally,... well, I don't know of any ctry that charges for this. Unless,... clients are encouraged to use the ATMs,.. in which case the charges would be minimal,...

The beauty of DBS earlier was : EVEN THE DEPOSITING AND WITHDRAWAL OF FOREIGN CURRENCIES WAS FREE ! When this happens, we can control the spread of currency exchange already,....anyway,... there is no more of this free meal,.. so, no point talking abt this anymore, unless another bank starts to open up too.
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Yea of course,sgd is free; i was referring to foreign Currency; as i park my usd & aud in DBS Spore on the MCA account.
Reason opened MCA account previously was to benefit from the foreign real time exchg without any % penalty
My worry now is that, even for TT incoming/outgoing foreign currency whether they charge that % or this applies only over counter transactions.

Yea free meal no more~!

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Those who already have a DBS Account, any luck opening DBS vickers trading acc?
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 12 2017, 09:24 AM)
Nope. Because I told them I am a fresh graduate.  sweat.gif
Banks in other country are run separably compare to the ones in Malaysia. Anyway, managed to open a CIMB account online (after getting DBS) so that I can make my DBS account "active" by transferring funds from CIMB > DBS > CIMB with my limited funds.

Will try and see if can get Standard Chartered/Maybank in my next trip. If can, will close my CIMB laugh.gif

Reason: CIMB only 2 branches  doh.gif

But looking at exchange rate, CIMB TT rates are better than Maybank.
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Yes for CIMB, you only need to open an account online and transfer some funds over (FAST transfer) from another Singaporean bank to enable account opening.

When you told them you are a fresh graduate, dint they ask you for your student visa etc?

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jan 12 2017, 10:46 AM)
Yes for CIMB, you only need to open an account online and transfer some funds over (FAST transfer) from another Singaporean bank to enable account opening.

When you told them you are a fresh graduate, dint they ask you for your student visa etc?
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I gave them my national competency exam results. They actually never look at it at all.
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I gave them my national competency exam results. They actually never look at it at all.
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No wonder la.. tongue.gif Your earlier statement gave a lot of hopes to people hoping to open an account in Singapore. Just to clarify bro Ramjade is studying in Singapore and thus allowed to open an account there.

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No wonder la.. tongue.gif
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I told them I am just graduated. So not working yet. So no tax no. SO they put my occupation as graduate. But the worker said not working means not working. No need to say graduate or what. ranting.gif
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I gave them my national competency exam results. They actually never look at it at all.
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jan 12 2017, 11:16 AM)
No wonder la.. tongue.gif Your earlier statement gave a lot of hopes to people hoping to open an account in Singapore. Just to clarify bro Ramjade is studying in Singapore and thus allowed to open an account there.
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Bro Ramjade,... you studied in Sgp,... you should not have prbs at all,..... mad.gif mad.gif Shouldn't even be talking here on opening of bank accounts in Sgp,... just tell then you graduated from there,...
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 12 2017, 11:20 AM)
I told them I am just graduated. So not working yet. So no tax no. SO they put my occupation as graduate. But the worker said not working means not working. No need to say graduate or what.  ranting.gif
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Hmm.... they are feeling 'bad' that they have no choice but to open accounts for you, because you studied there. hmm.gif hmm.gif

I suspect the Lions are beginning to have prejudice on us wanting to open accts there. They're beginning to detect something, maybe they're in this forum.

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Bro Ramjade,... you studied in Sgp,... you should not have prbs at all,..... mad.gif  mad.gif Shouldn't even be talking here on opening of bank accounts in Sgp,... just tell then you graduated from there,...
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I wished I studied in Singapore. If I studied there, definitely won't be problem to open. Unfortunately I don't.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 11 2017, 07:34 PM)
For me Maybank MY no reply until now. Already 1 month +. No call nothing, no package.

Since I everyday I wait, chances of opening are becoming slimmer. Decide to head down myself.
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urm? still no reply? i already got mine before NY including the card and security token device.

and they call me everytime i dropped them an email thou.
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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Jan 12 2017, 11:52 AM)
urm? still no reply? i already got mine before NY including the card and security token device.

and they call me everytime i dropped them an email thou.
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No reply la. No package also. Why else would I go down Singapore if Maybank can open. Maybe you are lucky. I went Maybank Shah Alam. Useless. Should have follow your advise and go Maybank 1 Utama.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 12 2017, 11:56 AM)
No reply la. No package also. Why else would I go down Singapore if Maybank can open. Maybe you are lucky. I went Maybank Shah Alam. Useless. Should have follow your advise and go Maybank 1 Utama.
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Btw you drop the email to SG or MY maybank?

perhaps maybank shah alam not efficient. maybe. blink.gif
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Btw you drop the email to SG or MY maybank?

perhaps maybank shah alam not efficient. maybe.  blink.gif
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What do I say to them? I don't have like a complaint number (a reference number for the customer service to check) I am sure Maybank SG will not divulge out their customer application info just like that.

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 12 2017, 12:04 PM)
What do I say to them? I don't have like a complaint number (a reference number for the customer service to check) I am sure Maybank SG will not divulge out their customer application info just like that.
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try email them about your application status @ CallCentre@maybank.com.sg

that's how I get my update twice in a week. Put down your phone number with country code and let them know to call you instead of email.

edit: before they update you about the application status, they will verify certain info with you first (IC number, type of account opened etc...)

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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Jan 12 2017, 12:07 PM)
try email them about your application status @ CallCentre@maybank.com.sg

that's how I get my update twice in a week. Put down your phone number with country code and let them know to call you instead of email.

edit: before they update you about the application status, they will verify certain info with you first (IC number, type of account opened etc...)
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Will try to email them and see. smile.gif
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Hi everybody, if i bring SGD cash like 1000SGD, i'm not SG PR nor employee of SG, can I open savings acc in Maybank SG? because web stated all savings requires PR or employment letter to apply
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QUOTE(antichrist @ Jan 12 2017, 12:50 PM)
Hi everybody, if i bring SGD cash like 1000SGD, i'm not SG PR nor employee of SG, can I open savings acc in Maybank SG? because web stated all savings requires PR or employment letter to apply
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Do you have an existing maybank MY account?
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Do you have an existing maybank MY account?
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Yes I have savings account. but i need to deposit my physical SGD into savings acc, can be done?
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Yes I have savings account. but i need to deposit my physical SGD into savings acc, can be done?
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can be done via TT but the rate is expensive. you can deposit your SGD physically at a better rate if you frequent SG.
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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Jan 12 2017, 01:00 PM)
can be done via TT but the rate is expensive. you can deposit your SGD physically at a better rate if you frequent SG.
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Yeah, that's why i think to go SG to open acc, since local Mybank requires me to purchase SGD from bank to deposit into local foreign currency account (which way to expensive), so if i go to SG maybank branch, can open savings without PR nor Employment letter?

based on Maybank SG website, they do require those documents like Eletric bills/Water bills/PR/Employment later.

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QUOTE(antichrist @ Jan 12 2017, 01:05 PM)
Yeah, that's why i think to go SG to open acc, since local Mybank requires me to purchase SGD from bank to deposit into local foreign currency account (which way to expensive), so if i go to SG maybank branch, can open savings without PR nor Employment letter?

based on Maybank SG website, they do require those documents like Eletric bills/Water bills/PR/Employment later.
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If you apply at SG maybank branch, you would need Employment Pass or Work Permit. If you apply here at Msia, you don't need to. Depends on your preference and if you are able to provide the criteria.
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 13 2017, 12:41 AM)
Ok I think SG can wait lah. Let me get settled with what I have. I do have relatives in SG and go down from time to time, so that isn't an issue.

The biggest draw for me is that they have so much better fund choice selection - Brazil, Russia, Eastern Europe, South America, Mexico, Turkey, Poland etc. Malaysia got none of those individual funds, sadly.
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I recommend you don't wait. The longer you wait, you may regret it if Singapore government close their doors. It already closing. Almost 90% of banks in Singapore now require a working pass to have account with them.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 13 2017, 12:44 AM)
I recommend you don't wait. The longer you wait, you may regret it if Singapore government close their doors. It already closing. Almost 90% of banks in Singapore now require a working pass to have account with them.
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Fair enough. I will look into it. Thanks!
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Fair enough. I will look into it. Thanks!
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1-2 years ago, one can freely walk into any SG banks and ask for a bank account. No questions asked. Well do update here if you managed to get one and how you managed to open. It will help people who wants to open.
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1-2 years ago, one can freely walk into any SG banks and ask for a bank account. No questions asked. Well do update here if you managed to get one and how you managed to open. It will help people who wants to open.
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DON'T UPDATE HERE TOO MUCH ! THE DOORS WILL BE CLOSED FASTER ! USE PM ! SOME GOVTS AND AUTHORITIES RE-ACT FAST, UNLIKE OURS !
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 13 2017, 12:44 AM)
I recommend you don't wait. The longer you wait, you may regret it if Singapore government close their doors. It already closing. Almost 90% of banks in Singapore now require a working pass to have account with them.
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Now I really regret closing mine few years back when I moved back to Malaysia 😂. Likewise in Malaysia , to open new account also need Employee salary slip and some verification for those unemployed . Banyak macam macam !

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QUOTE(Mikeyz @ Jan 13 2017, 08:26 AM)
Now I really regret closing mine few years back when I moved back to Malaysia 😂. Likewise in Malaysia , to open new account also need Employee salary slip and some verification for those unemployed  . Banyak macam macam !
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5 years ago, Malaysia bank account does need all these crap.
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5 years ago, Malaysia bank account does need all these crap.
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Even a valid work pass doesn't work on them. Die die must company HR's letter
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QUOTE(Mikeyz @ Jan 13 2017, 08:26 AM)
Now I really regret closing mine few years back when I moved back to Malaysia 😂. Likewise in Malaysia , to open new account also need Employee salary slip and some verification for those unemployed  . Banyak macam macam !
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5 years ago, Malaysia bank account does need all these crap.
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QUOTE(kyone @ Jan 13 2017, 08:57 AM)
Even a valid work pass doesn't work on them. Die die must company HR's letter
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This is news to me,... opening banks accounts in Msia is also difficult ???? shocking.gif
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This is news to me,... opening banks accounts in Msia is also difficult ????  shocking.gif
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There's a thread some where here that people who is unemployed having trouble with opening Maybank Malaysia (requires proof of employment). Also banks in Malaysia are kind of weird that your IC address must be within the bank radius. Say you are from KL. You went to Penang on holiday and decide to open a bank account in Penang, you will be denied opening. Not sure if it's applicable for all banks in Malaysia or just some banks.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 13 2017, 09:14 AM)
There's a thread some where here that people who is unemployed having trouble with opening Maybank Malaysia (requires proof of employment). Also banks in Malaysia are kind of weird that your IC address must be within the bank radius. Say you are from KL. You went to Penang on holiday and decide to open a bank account in Penang, you will be denied opening. Not sure if it's applicable for all banks in Malaysia or just some banks.
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Sorry off topic but is true about this.my cousin wanted to open an account in Maybank but was rejected even though the husband has supporting employee document from SG company.
Very strict rules and requirements now. Just my share on experience


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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 13 2017, 07:31 AM)
DON'T UPDATE HERE TOO MUCH ! THE DOORS WILL BE CLOSED FASTER ! USE PM ! SOME GOVTS AND AUTHORITIES RE-ACT FAST, UNLIKE OURS !
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I agree on this. Many eyes are watching. Even more when it is reported in the papers recently people are transferring huge amounts of money overseas.

QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 13 2017, 09:11 AM)
This is news to me,... opening banks accounts in Msia is also difficult ????  shocking.gif
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If you are a foreigner in Malaysia.

QUOTE(Mikeyz @ Jan 13 2017, 09:26 AM)
Sorry off topic but is true about this.my cousin wanted to open an account in Maybank but was rejected even though the husband has supporting employee document from SG company.
Very strict rules and requirements now. Just my share on experience
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Compared to their Malaysian counterparts, Singapore Banks all follow strict SOPs on all their transactions.
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jan 13 2017, 11:37 AM)
I agree on this. Many eyes are watching. Even more when it is reported in the papers recently people are transferring huge amounts of money overseas.
If you are a foreigner in Malaysia.
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The news with the one who kena tangkap holding so much foreign currency really doh.gif
This applies to unemployed Malaysian also. But I don't think all banks that strict.

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 13 2017, 11:41 AM)
The news with the one who kena tangkap holding so much foreign currency really  doh.gif
This applies to unemployed Malaysian also. But I don't think all banks that strict.
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Those who kena tangkap are the really big fishes. I would suspect those are money changers transferring huge amounts for clients who do not want to go through proper channels.
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Those who kena tangkap got their money in illicit ways. This is the basis of it !
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jan 13 2017, 12:07 PM)
Those who kena tangkap are the really big fishes. I would suspect those are money changers transferring huge amounts for clients who do not want to go through proper channels.
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There is definitely a back channel for such things. Just not publicly available to normal citizens. brows.gif
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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Jan 13 2017, 12:41 PM)
There is definitely a back channel for such things. Just not publicly available to normal citizens.  brows.gif
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Bro,... I think these back channels are slowly closing down,...Doors are closing, otherwise, we wouldn't have so many 'sonlap pros' keeping foreign currency cash in their homes and in their kampungs. On a personal level, I too find many of the easier channels previously are no more there, and rules are tighter nowfor funds movement.

The 1MDB event sealed the hole tighter,... NR moved fast, he's smart, becos after him,... that govt agency is allowed to go after the rest of the big 'songlap professionals',... he slipped through first with a big haul. This is what I heard too from my private banking circle in Sgp !

Now 'catching 5th individual' !
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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Jan 13 2017, 12:41 PM)
There is definitely a back channel for such things. Just not publicly available to normal citizens.  brows.gif
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There is.. These money changers still do it. Remember the case the money changer with with the bullet proof Toyota Fortuner who got fired upon on the way to KLIA last year? They were heading to Sarawak. But I wonder how they will pass security checks? Or they have insiders?

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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Jan 12 2017, 01:12 PM)
If you apply at SG maybank branch, you would need Employment Pass or Work Permit. If you apply here at Msia, you don't need to. Depends on your preference and if you are able to provide the criteria.
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Mind to share which maybank branch recommended / can open account without problem?
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Is there reason(s) why everybody is rushing to open an account in Singapore ? In malaysia bank, we also have foreign currency accounts. You still can convert RM into forex and keep in bank accounts. I believe it is much easier to open a forex account in malaysia than an account in Singapore

If your objective is for share investment, our malaysian trading platform can buy shares in many exchanges around the world. You can fund your trading accounts in forex and buy shares in those foreign exchange. If you sell it, you can also choose to get the proceed in forex and not exchange it back to RM but keep in forex, waiting for your next trade.

For those who say the charges to buy shares in foreign exchange, the difference is only 0.xx%. Unless you are trading in millions, the price changes in a few days could easily be more than 0.xx%.

This left us with the last concern that Malaysia will introduce capital control again. And sending money out will be a problem. But do you guys have so much forex spending/expense ? My experience during the capital control years in late 90s / early to mid 2000s, I vaguely remember the procedures/documents required may be more, but my import/export business and my forex spending for my kids education is still not much of a problem

Or you fear that malaysia's economy will collapse like Zimbabwe or Venezuela ? If that happens, how much money in foreign currencies do you think you need to have so you can flee the country and live overseas for a long period of time ? Bear in mind, unless you are multi millionaire who could live on the wealth, you cannot simply move to another country and get a job there. Poor people is not welcome by any country

Unless I missed out that all of those who rush to Singapore to open accounts are people with millions to park overseas.... thumbup.gif
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Mind to share which maybank branch recommended / can open account without problem?
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bandar utama branch. but i can't guarantee that it will be without problem.

QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Jan 13 2017, 09:05 PM)
Is there reason(s) why everybody is rushing to open an account in Singapore ? In malaysia bank, we also have foreign currency accounts. You still can convert RM into forex and keep in bank accounts. I believe it is much easier to open a forex account in malaysia than an account in Singapore

If your objective is for share investment, our malaysian trading platform can buy shares in many exchanges around the world. You can fund your trading accounts in forex and buy shares in those foreign exchange. If you sell it, you can also choose to get the proceed in forex and not exchange it back to RM but keep in forex, waiting for your next trade.

For those who say the charges to buy shares in foreign exchange, the difference is only 0.xx%. Unless you are trading in millions, the price changes in a few days could easily be more than 0.xx%.

This left us with the last concern that Malaysia will introduce capital control again. And sending money out will be a problem. But do you guys have so much forex spending/expense ? My experience during the capital control years in late 90s / early to mid 2000s, I vaguely remember the procedures/documents required may be more, but my import/export business and my forex spending for my kids education is still not much of a problem

Or you fear that malaysia's economy will collapse like Zimbabwe or Venezuela ? If that happens, how much money in foreign currencies do you think you need to have so you can flee the country and live overseas for a long period of time ? Bear in mind, unless you are multi millionaire who could live on the wealth, you cannot simply move to another country and get a job there. Poor people is not welcome by any country

Unless I missed out that all of those who rush to Singapore to open accounts are people with millions to park overseas.... thumbup.gif
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i myself only have 1 reason. it's because of the dividend received. to TT back each time a dividend is declared is painful to swallow. hence, cheaper to park the dividends into SG account to keep the capital rolling. that's all. blush.gif

nothing got to do with fear from my end. biggrin.gif all for convenience. and being a cheapskate. devil.gif
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Jan 13 2017, 09:05 PM)
Is there reason(s) why everybody is rushing to open an account in Singapore ? In malaysia bank, we also have foreign currency accounts. You still can convert RM into forex and keep in bank accounts. I believe it is much easier to open a forex account in malaysia than an account in Singapore

If your objective is for share investment, our malaysian trading platform can buy shares in many exchanges around the world. You can fund your trading accounts in forex and buy shares in those foreign exchange. If you sell it, you can also choose to get the proceed in forex and not exchange it back to RM but keep in forex, waiting for your next trade.

For those who say the charges to buy shares in foreign exchange, the difference is only 0.xx%. Unless you are trading in millions, the price changes in a few days could easily be more than 0.xx%.

This left us with the last concern that Malaysia will introduce capital control again. And sending money out will be a problem. But do you guys have so much forex spending/expense ? My experience during the capital control years in late 90s / early to mid 2000s, I vaguely remember the procedures/documents required may be more, but my import/export business and my forex spending for my kids education is still not much of a problem

Or you fear that malaysia's economy will collapse like Zimbabwe or Venezuela ? If that happens, how much money in foreign currencies do you think you need to have so you can flee the country and live overseas for a long period of time ? Bear in mind, unless you are multi millionaire who could live on the wealth, you cannot simply move to another country and get a job there. Poor people is not welcome by any country

Unless I missed out that all of those who rush to Singapore to open accounts are people with millions to park overseas
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You exchange at bank rates which is not cheap. sad.gif You cannot deposit in foreign currency notes. You will have to use RM. That's the only reason I can think off. Say you park 50% of your salary outside of Malaysia, if RM continue to drop, only 50% of it is affected. The other 50% is not. Again for every RM100k you exchange with banks, you lose at least RM1k compare if you change with money changer. That's at least 1% Let me proof it to you.

Eg.
Using merchant trade at 3.125 (as of today)
RM100k will give you SGD32k

Using the bank like Maybank at 3.1755 (as of today)
RM100k will give you SGD31491.10

Difference = SGD508.90 (difference in term of loss = 1.5903125%!!!)

Alright for those buying foreign share min 1% loss + 0.xx% loss adds up overtime. Why waste 1.xx-2.xx% when you can save that? Let's say 2% of SGD32k = SGD640!!! That's just people who buy and hold. What about people who actually do trading?

That's why the move to convert 75% of the foreign currency by BNM is not popular with exporters considering that RM may depreciate further. Exporters already lose min 1% + further future currency depreciation. I am guessing a nett loss of about 3-4% for each transaction?

Another reason to open a FCA in malaysia is not easy. They will require all sorts of excuse and penalty. I know I tried (Affin, Maybank, Cimb). So your ordinary folks like me don't stand a chance to preserve your own hard earn savings. Affin said I must owned a company before opening. Maybank said I need introducer. Cimb straight told me no. Maybe it's because I am not a priority customer? sad.gif confused.gif Opening a FCA and not letting the money works for you is bad idea. One is better off with cold hard cash.

My last reason, I want to invest in UT in SG which offer more selection and cheaper service charge than Malaysia. It will be better this way than TTing over the money.

That's what I can think off the top of my head.

Conclusion:
1. Cheaper than keeping in local FCA
2. Better option for common folks
3. More selection overseas and cheaper in terms of fees

References:
http://www.eforex.com.my/
http://www.exchangerate.my/

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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Jan 13 2017, 09:37 PM)

i myself only have 1 reason. it's because of the dividend received. to TT back each time a dividend is declared is painful to swallow. hence, cheaper to park the dividends into SG account to keep the capital rolling. that's all.  blush.gif

nothing got to do with fear from my end.  biggrin.gif all for convenience. and being a cheapskate.  devil.gif
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You are using the platforms in Singapore ? Then it is logical to have a Sg bank account.

For those using local platform, the dividend handling charge for SGX is only S$10, right ?
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 13 2017, 09:39 PM)
You exchange at bank rates which is not cheap.  sad.gif You cannot deposit in foreign currency notes. You will have to use RM. That's the only reason I can think off. Say you park 50% of your salary outside of Malaysia, if RM continue to drop, only 50% of it is affected. The other 50% is not. Again for every RM100k you exchange with banks, you lose at least RM1k compare if you change with money changer. That's at least 1% Let me proof it to you.

Eg.
Using merchant trade at 3.125 (as of today)
RM100k will give you SGD32k

Using the bank like Maybank at 3.1755 (as of today)
RM100k will give you SGD31491.10

Difference = SGD508.90 (difference in term of loss = 1.5903125%!!!)
You carry so much cash and fly to Singapore ? You need to declare any amount >RM30k at the airport Customs. Hope you did that....

BTW, at RM100k, you can get preferential rate from bank. Board rate is not applicable. And there is also DCI which you may be able to convert at spot rate at the time of entering contract.

BTW, how much do you exchange each time you travel to Singapore ? Your cost saving and time of travelilng is it worth it ?

Talking about 50% salary, if you fear RM depreciate, you can always open a foreign currency account with malaysian banks.




QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 13 2017, 09:39 PM)
Alright for those buying foreign share min 1% loss + 0.xx% loss adds up overtime. Why waste 1.xx-2.xx% when you can save that? Let's say 2% of SGD32k = SGD640!!! That's just people who buy and hold. What about people who actually do trading?
How do you get the 1% loss ?


QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 13 2017, 09:39 PM)
That's why the move to convert 75% of the foreign currency by BNM is not popular with exporters considering that RM may depreciate further. Exporters already lose min 1% + further future currency depreciation. I am guessing a nett loss of about 3-4% for each transaction?
Totally understand this point. I am an exporter as well

But you are not an exporter right ?

Again, where you get the 1% loss


QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 13 2017, 09:39 PM)
Another reason to open a FCA in malaysia is not easy. They will require all sorts of excuse and penalty. I know I tried (Affin, Maybank, Cimb). So your ordinary folks like me don't stand a chance to preserve your own hard earn savings.
Tell them you want to trade in DCI. And you can open a forex account.

You go all the way to find ways to open an account in Singapore, but you don't find ways to open an account in malaysia ?


QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 13 2017, 09:39 PM)
My last reason, I want to invest in UT in SG which offer more selection and cheaper service charge than Malaysia. It will be better this way than TTing over the money.

That's what I can think off the top of my head.

Conclusion:
1. Cheaper than keeping in local FCA
2. Better option for common folks
3. More selection overseas and cheaper in terms of fees

References:
http://www.eforex.com.my/
http://www.exchangerate.my/
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If for more selection in UT, that I can understand.

What is the difference in service charge ? You are talking about FSM My vs FSM Sg, right ?

Do you always charge your RM into SGD in cash form ? And you travel down to Sg to deposit the money ? You stay in JB is it ? If not, how much is your travelling cost per trip ? Do you have time to travel outside of work ?
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You carry so much cash and fly to Singapore ? You need to declare any amount >RM30k at the airport Customs. Hope you did that....
You can always carry SGD9500. That's way below the limit.  biggrin.gif

BTW, at RM100k, you can get preferential rate from bank. Board rate is not applicable. And there is also DCI which you may be able to convert at spot rate at the time of entering contract.
I don't trust banks. My parents transfered RM75k+ before in USD (for education) worth never get special rate also.

BTW, how much do you exchange each time you travel to Singapore ? Your cost saving and time of travelilng is it worth it ?
This time will be my 2nd trip. Last time I change only SGD5.5k as I didn't expect can open an account. So this time SGD9.5k. Come on la. ETS only about RM51. RM5 to cross the crossway. Then buy tourist pass. SGD10 only for unlimited rides on their MRT/bus. Plane also RM69 only (right now). Then get on MRT t Changi airport. Can buy the SGD10 tourist pass at Changi airport.  biggrin.gif Will be using money changer in the future to transfer as it cost only RM22 after I test it out. (to see whether can transfer or not)


Talking about 50% salary, if you fear RM depreciate, you can always open a foreign currency account with malaysian banks.
How do you get the 1% loss ?
Totally understand this point. I am an exporter as well.
Check the 2 link I gave. The comparison website match the exchange rates as quoted by the banks at today's price. SGD508.90/SGD32k x 100%
http://www.eforex.com.my/
http://www.exchangerate.my/

But you are not an exporter right ?
Nope. I am just a fresh graduate.

Again, where you get the 1% loss
See the above
Tell them you want to trade in DCI. And you can open a forex account.
I don't do forex trading

You go all the way to find ways to open an account in Singapore, but you don't find ways to open an account in malaysia ?
It was brief asking the banks. Was looking to hedge in terms of USD for my studies (that time USD/RM was at 3.x). But the banks refuse to entertain me. Besides if bank in Malaysia don't want me, so be it.

If for more selection in UT, that I can understand.
What is the difference in service charge ? You are talking about FSM My vs FSM Sg, right ?
No. Talking about FSM MY vs Philips SG. FSM MY charge 2% SC. Philips only 0.75% and more selection. FSM SG sucks as they charge you platform fees at 0.4% pa regardless you buy or not. In the long run (10 years holding), one will lose more to FSM SG compare to Philips.

Do you always charge your RM into SGD in cash form ? And you travel down to Sg to deposit the money ? You stay in JB is it ? If not, how much is your travelling cost per trip ? Do you have time to travel outside of work ?
Right now, I just travelled to SG once. Yes. I will convert to cash and slowly transfer out. In future use money changer service if can work as they charge their rates (can nego if amount is big) and charge fees of only RM22/transfer. Each transfer is capped at RM50k. I stay in Klang. See my cost above. It's cheap if you can carry SGD9500. Plus family members so >SGD9500/trip
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I will try to explain one by one.

Four more reasons why I open account in SG.
1) Able to fund Interactive Broker in the future when I am rich and have access to worldwide stock exchange. Funding can be done in terms of SGD.
2) Feel better if my money is overseas laugh.gif
3) Planning to dive into SGX via their platform and I do not give banks free money unless necessary.
4) No response from Maybank MY/SG regarding my application and SG govt are closing the doors (after 1 month+).

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Jan 13 2017, 09:46 PM)
You are using the platforms in Singapore ? Then it is logical to have a Sg bank account.

For those using local platform, the dividend handling charge for SGX is only S$10, right ?
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yes. using MBB Kim Eng brokerage with MBB SG account.

HLEbroking charge around there for each dividend clearance. cry.gif
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 13 2017, 10:48 PM)

You can always carry SGD9500. That's way below the limit.  biggrin.gif

I don't trust banks. My parents transfered RM75k+ before in USD (for education) worth never get special rate also.

This time will be my 2nd trip. Last time I change only SGD5.5k as I didn't expect can open an account. So this time SGD9.5k. Come on la. ETS only about RM51. RM5 to cross the crossway. Then buy tourist pass. SGD10 only for unlimited rides on their MRT/bus. Plane also RM69 only (right now). Then get on MRT t Changi airport. Can buy the SGD10 tourist pass at Changi airport.  biggrin.gif Will be using money changer in the future to transfer as it cost only RM22 after I test it out. (to see whether can transfer or not)
Bro eForex and eRemit rates are different. If you use eRemit, the rate is even worse than bank.

eForex - SGD 3.125
eRemit - SGD 0.3138 --> 3.1867

Looks like you have to make a trip down to Singapore for every S$9.5k biggrin.gif



QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 13 2017, 10:48 PM)
Check the 2 link I gave. The comparison website match the exchange rates as quoted by the banks at today's price. SGD508.90/SGD32k x 100%
http://www.eforex.com.my/
http://www.exchangerate.my/
Bro, you are comparing the rates for cold hard cash vs bank remittance. How the exporter handle cash to do business ?

You expect us to ask our staff to carry cash and fly down to Singapore to deposit, so we can save the 1% ?

And I am not talking about S$32k each time. You got to add another zero behind. You trust staff who carry so much cash (assuming Customs will clear the amount)


QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 13 2017, 10:48 PM)

Nope. I am just a fresh graduate.
Fresh grad in Malaysia earning about RM3k now right ? You said you can save 50% in forex. So it would be RM1500.

The 1% "loss" you talked about is worth :

1500 / 3.125 = S$480.00
1500 / 3.1755 = S$472.37

The savings from handling cash is S$7.63 per month. That is S$91.6 per year. S$916 per 10 year. Let's assume salary increase by 4 times. Your salary is RM12k in 10 years time. Your savings on the 10th year is ~S$400 per year

If you think it is worth it, then continue to do what you did.


QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 13 2017, 10:48 PM)

I don't do forex trading
DCI is not forex trading


QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 13 2017, 10:48 PM)

No. Talking about FSM MY vs Philips SG. FSM MY charge 2% SC. Philips only 0.75% and more selection. FSM SG sucks as they charge you platform fees at 0.4% pa regardless you buy or not. In the long run (10 years holding), one will lose more to FSM SG compare to Philips.
Bro, from your various posts, can see you want to save every penny. If you are into saving every penny, you may be better off concentrating on buying stock yourself instead of asking people to handle your investment.

Buying stock yourself is much cheaper. Because asking someone to do a job for you will cost you money.

If you don't let bank make money off you, why you let UT manager to make money off you ?


QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 13 2017, 10:48 PM)

Right now, I just travelled to SG once. Yes. I will convert to cash and slowly transfer out. In future use money changer service if can work as they charge their rates (can nego if amount is big) and charge fees of only RM22/transfer. Each transfer is capped at RM50k. I stay in Klang. See my cost above. It's cheap if you can carry SGD9500. Plus family members so >SGD9500/trip
Check their rates in eRemit. They are even more expensive than banks' board rate.

Are you working now ? If you start work already, you may not have the time and you will feel the hassle to carry the cash down to Sg often. Moreover, you are talking about RM1500 pm. Your savings is not worth it.

BTW, do you know that the rates offered by CIMB iTrade is close to spot ? Last time I use it, their rates were very good. Check it out and compare I don't know if they still offer good rates now.


QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 13 2017, 10:48 PM)
I will try to explain one by one.

Four more reasons why I open account in SG.
1) Able to fund Interactive Broker in the future when I am rich and have access to worldwide stock exchange. Funding can be done in terms of SGD.
2) Feel better if my money is overseas laugh.gif
3) Planning to dive into SGX via their platform and I do not give banks free money unless necessary.
4) No response from Maybank MY/SG regarding my application and SG govt are closing the doors (after 1 month+).
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1. Good planning for the future. You have this idea because you thought that you can transfer your money cheaper using eRemit. Otherwise, you will have to make every trip down to Singapore for every S$9500

2. I feel the same too biggrin.gif

3. Same as #1. You have to make the trip down to Sg to save money using eForex

4. If your amount is small, you may be better off try to open an Forex account with Malaysian banks. And using the local share trading platform to invest in overseas stock market
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Bro eForex and eRemit rates are different. If you use eRemit, the rate is even worse than bank.

eForex - SGD 3.125
eRemit - SGD 0.3138 --> 3.1867

Looks like you have to make a trip down to Singapore for every S$9.5k  biggrin.gif
Bro, you are comparing the rates for cold hard cash vs bank remittance. How the exporter handle cash to do business ?

You expect us to ask our staff to carry cash and fly down to Singapore to deposit, so we can save the 1% ?

And I am not talking about S$32k each time. You got to add another zero behind. You trust staff who carry so much cash (assuming Customs will clear the amount)
Fresh grad in Malaysia earning about RM3k now right ? You said you can save 50% in forex. So it would be RM1500.

The 1% "loss" you talked about is worth :

1500 / 3.125 = S$480.00
1500 / 3.1755 = S$472.37

The savings from handling cash is S$7.63 per month. That is S$91.6 per year. S$916 per 10 year. Let's assume salary increase by 4 times. Your salary is RM12k in 10 years time. Your savings on the 10th year is ~S$400 per year

If you think it is worth it, then continue to do what you did.
DCI is not forex trading
Bro, from your various posts, can see you want to save every penny. If you are into saving every penny, you may be better off concentrating on buying stock yourself instead of asking people to handle your investment.

Buying stock yourself is much cheaper. Because asking someone to do a job for you will cost you money.

If you don't let bank make money off you, why you let UT manager to make money off you ?
Check their rates in eRemit. They are even more expensive than banks' board rate.

Are you working now ? If you start work already, you may not have the time and you will feel the hassle to carry the cash down to Sg often. Moreover, you are talking about RM1500 pm. Your savings is not worth it.

BTW, do you know that the rates offered by CIMB iTrade is close to spot ? Last time I use it, their rates were very good. Check it out and compare I don't know if they still offer good rates now.
1. Good planning for the future. You have this idea because you thought that you can transfer your money cheaper using eRemit. Otherwise, you will have to make every trip down to Singapore for every S$9500

2. I feel the same too  biggrin.gif

3. Same as #1. You have to make the trip down to Sg to save money using eForex

4. If your amount is small, you may be better off try to open an Forex account with Malaysian banks. And using the local share trading platform to invest in overseas stock market
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Thanks for the tip. I smile.gif I asked their counter, they told for transfer, we based on rates shown on the screen (Merchant Trade). Perhaps that's for online transfer? CIMB iTrade is stock broker? Er what happen if they refuse to entertain me some more?

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yes. using MBB Kim Eng brokerage with MBB SG account.

HLEbroking charge around there for each dividend clearance. cry.gif
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I think opening a Sg bank account is to serve the purpose of using the share trading platform in Sg. Not the other way around. Opening bank account in Sg just for the sake of opening


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If a person wants to open an account just for the sake of opening it, then malaysia has forex account also.

Also, for forex share investment, it is not worth the effort for small timer to go to Sg. I think the local platform is more cost efficient and less effort to get involve in foreign currency stock investment
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I think opening a Sg bank account is to serve the purpose of using the share trading platform in Sg. Not the other way around. Opening bank account in Sg just for the sake of opening
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yea. other purpose would be banking in salary if working there. if HLEbroking don't charge me such a high brokerage and cheque clearance then might consider using local platform to trade.

end of the day, just for self convenience. nothing complicated to think much really.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 13 2017, 11:56 PM)
Thanks for the tip. I smile.gif I asked their counter, they told for transfer, we based on rates shown on the screen (Merchant Trade). Perhaps that's for online transfer? CIMB iTrade is stock broker?  Er what happen if they refuse to entertain me some more?
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Go to eForex and eRemit and compare the rates. They purposely put the different denomination to confuse you biggrin.gif

eForex use S$1 = RM3.135
eRemit use RM1 = S$0.3138 (which is RM3.1867)


Yes, iTrade is stock trading platform from CIMB. There are many others offered by MBB, PBB, HLBB and many other pure security firms to. So if CIMB refuses you, go to others. Sure got one that will entertain you
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Showtime747 so what options/suggestions for me to transfer money at cheap rates? FCA > TT over?
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1. One largest bank RM told me it is central bank directive that no more FCA account wil be allowed to be open. But I'm not sure whether this is apply to all or "very special" Priority customers still able to open cause I'm not seeking further clarification from him. What I can sense is, it is extremely not easy to open unless you have say RM500k above and it is their active customer that support them with DCI or purchase bond etc yet still need RM to act in favor of you.

2. Open sg account still possible for non resident but very tough, u need to heavily commit say with few hundred thousand sgd deposit or e.g. Buying a saving insurance from the bank with e.g. Sgd 3k monthly premium. (This is someone real encounters)

3. Opening e.g. Sg mbb account via local Mbb is possible but I think is not applicable to everyone and the process takes very long time. Opening sg mbb fca is some what more difficult unless again u r bank very worthy customers.

4. And more..
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 14 2017, 12:16 AM)
Showtime747 so what options/suggestions for me to transfer money at cheap rates? FCA > TT over?
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Frankly, your focus is wrong bro. You concentrate too much on saving cost. While ignoring the most important thing --> how to make money from your investment

For e.g., if you bought capital mall trust last week <1.90, it's now ~2.00. 10+ cents. That is >5%. What is saving 1% on the cost means ? Nothing compare to the gain

I have not heard investor getting rich by saving on the cost of purchasing shares.
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QUOTE(Shanglin @ Jan 14 2017, 12:30 AM)
1. One largest bank RM told me it is central bank directive that no more FCA account wil be allowed to be open. But I'm not sure whether this is apply to all or "very special" Priority customers still able to open cause I'm not seeking further clarification from him. What I can sense is, it is extremely not easy to open unless you have say RM500k above and it is their active customer that support them with DCI or purchase bond etc yet still need RM to act in favor of you.

2. Open sg account still possible for non resident but very tough, u need to heavily commit say with few hundred thousand sgd deposit or e.g. Buying a saving insurance from the bank with e.g. Sgd 3k monthly premium. (This is someone real encounters)

3. Opening e.g. Sg mbb account via local Mbb is possible but I think is not applicable to everyone and the process takes very long time. Opening sg mbb fca is some what more difficult unless again u r bank very worthy customers.

4. And more..
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Good info thumbup.gif

I think it is not the BNM which gave directive. It is the bank which doesn't want to answer to BNM if they ask for details of forex movement. Banks are now paranoid whenever forex is involved. So if they can reduce customers' transaction, they reduce their possible mistakes too

I asked BNM to clarify on some transfer machanism on export company and they say ok no problem. But when it comes to the bank, they asked for all sorts of documents (some unnecessary) and everything have to ask HQ. Causing unnecessary delays. Everyone in the bank doesn't want to be responsible in this trying times doh.gif

Those who want to open forex account now may not be the good time to do so. Maybe wait for a few months when everything stable down and banks have clearer direction
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Jan 14 2017, 12:39 AM)
Frankly, your focus is wrong bro. You concentrate too much on saving cost. While ignoring the most important thing --> how to make money from your investment

For e.g., if you bought capital mall trust last week <1.90, it's now ~2.00. 10+ cents. That is >5%. What is saving 1% on the cost means ? Nothing compare to the gain

I have not heard investor getting rich by saving on the cost of purchasing shares.
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Actually I checked, eremit is for online transfer even though it's run by Merchant Trade. But the Merchant trade worker told me we use the rates that's display on our TV for transfer. If like that, how come indo/bangla all use these kind of service instead of banks?

But I would like to hear your suggestion on how to transfer money cheaply (PM also can if you don't want to write it out here in public) for someone with less than RM100k. My DBS Vickers is still pending approval.

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