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myr.medinsurance
post Aug 15 2015, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 12 2015, 12:08 AM)
Folks,

Bump!!

Anyone successfully open Singapore Bank A/C without living or working in Singapore??

Thanks

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Opened one at DBS bank branch at Marina Bay Financial Centre.

You have to open securities trading account with it.

I opened one after GE 13. I realised how bad gerrymandering was and how screwed I will be if s**t hits the fan.

My vote piled up uselessly in an urban seat with big majority while rural seats with small majority are the ones that matter.

My advice is opening a Singaporean account is not worth it if less than SGD 30k. Interest rate is low so you have to invest in stock market (e.g. REIT or ETF).

You need 1 or 2 times cash collateral to SELL your shares due to how CDP is setup.
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post Aug 16 2015, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 15 2015, 11:55 PM)
myr.medinsurance,

It depends on what is the goal of this A/C.  If RM depreciate, even at 0% interest rate, it might be worth it.

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The money in Singapore is going to be there for the long-term (unless things go south in Malaysia) so how it appreciate to Ringgit is less important than beating inflation in Singapore. For now, just dollar cost averaging on STI ETF.

They are going to have Singapore Savings Bond soon. This will give fixed deposits in DBS bank a run for their money.

QUOTE(aspartame @ Aug 16 2015, 01:23 AM)
Can you please elaborate on what you mean by that? If you have already paid for the shares in your CDP, why do you need cash in your account to sell?
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CDP accounts in Singapore is unique to each person. One CDP account can be linked to multiple brokerage accounts (e.g. buy with DBS Vickers and sell with Kim Eng). Once you buy through one brokerage and settle cost, the security is transferred to your CDP account. Your brokerage account has no idea that you still have the stock, so you might be short-selling when you sell any stock.

Since you are not working in SG, they will want cash collateral.

Might be different for others but this is the case for me.

Anybody who has DBS-Vickers account that can sell without collateral, let me know. I buy stock cash upfront.
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post Aug 16 2015, 11:25 AM

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Looks great especially no custody fees.

Have they charged you any annual fee for account?

If non-resident is allowed to open bank account and trading account, may recommend to dad for diversification.

Were you a non-resident when you opened the account?


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post Aug 16 2015, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(orangbulu @ Aug 16 2015, 11:51 AM)
No Annual Fee as far as I know. you will have to open a savings account with them (E-Saver) with Min Balance 1K SGD. I was a resident when i opened the account, but i do not think non-resident should have an issue. Maybe you need a higher min balance.
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Thank you for the info. Will let my dad know. It will be up to him to follow up on requirement and decide to proceed or not.

He has reached age to withdraw EPF but still keeps most of his money there.

If Zimbabwe levels of hyperinflation hits Malaysia (very, very unlikely), I can still rebound because I am young. It is the oldies that cannot take chances with their nest eggs.

You mentioning standard chartered trading account has jogged my mind back to end of 2013. I did consider Standard Chartered but did not find any examples of people who manage to open Standard Chartered bank account as non-resident in lowyat as opposed to DBS bank. Furthermore, I was a bit nervous about the fact that account is nominee account.

Since I am a small timer, may as well just go with DBS. Was caught out by how CDP is setup.

I remember I took the overnight KTM sleeper train to Singapore. It was RM 80 return for bunk.

You could arrive at early morning by sleeper, open account and take sleeper train back to KL. You don't even need to spend a night in Singapore.

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post Aug 16 2015, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(orangbulu @ Aug 16 2015, 02:11 PM)
Yea I agree, its better to check with a proper financial advisor before doing anything rash like transferring all your EPF savings to SG. I do not think its a good idea to transfer all your savings to SG if you are worried about Malaysia crashing. If Malaysia crashes, Singapore will be severely impacted as Malaysia is its major trading partner. You are better off putting your money in some other country/ currency

Lucky for me my hometown is in JB, we can just do day trip to SG
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Thanks for the advice. Definitely not going to ask him to put everything in SG. Maybe 10% as a hedge. He will need to consult relevant people, I am just giving an alternative to him. Just does not feel right to put all your eggs in one basket. The world is changing so fast. One moment you are up, the next you are down.

Yeah, Singapore would be affected too. Just the degree it will be affected. Just that it is convenient. One train ride away. Same language, culture. Another alternative is us brokerage account. Not the best place for an old man's retirement savings.
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post Sep 18 2015, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 17 2015, 12:28 PM)
Good man,... bro,... rclxms.gif

I'm Hansel,.. not really active in this thread,.. just came across it today.

YES, just go with DBS, you can withdraw from almost anywhere when you are in Sgp, lots of ATMs all over the island. IF you have an acct with DBS Vickers, you can use the Cash Upfront facility to buy stocks. Minimum SGD 18 only, percentage I think around 0.18%. Lowest brokerage in Sgp, right ?

Recently, DBS has included Msia into its listing of banks where we can do an online TT to Malaysia, and there will be no fees for this TT. So you can move your money in and out without charges.

I would advise you to open a Maybank Singapore Acct too, then you would be able to convert RM into the SGD and TT to Maybank Singapore with only RM10.

Have you ever considered buying and holding SG REITs ?
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Curious whether Maybank SG allows you to open an account without being a Singaporean resident.

I like REITs because of the liquidity and hassle-free nature of investing in property through REITs.

The only problem with SG REITs is if there is a rights issue, you can't subscribe to it because you cannot provide a Singapore address. Other than that, it beats the MY REITs by a mile. No withholding tax, large portfolio (economics of scale & diversification), international exposure and more variety.

I stick with just STI ETF so I can adopt a simple investment strategy, buy less when expensive, buy more when cheap & sell when I need the money. Don't want to spend too much time on this.

orangbulu mentioned investing in US stocks. I think that is good too because of bigger market. Why invest in BAT Malaysia with 2X P/E when you can have international exposure of Philip Morris International at 1X P/E? Again, you can own a stake in publicly-traded oil company, Exxon Mobil at 1X P/E compared to owning small fish companies like Sapurakencana.


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post Sep 18 2015, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Sep 18 2015, 01:45 PM)
According to Bank Negara, there is no capital control on funds for investment. Ie.

1. You can transfer whatever amount provided you have no loan in malaysia (1 housing loan is exempted)
2. If you have more than 1 loan, then your limit is RM1m per calender year

Having said that, the bank branches in malaysia usually do not check your TT against the above rule. Unless you transfer RM1m in 1 shot.

Some banks branches who do their jobs will ask. They will let you fill in a declaration form related to the above
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May I know what kind of information and supporting documents do they request?

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post Sep 18 2015, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Sep 18 2015, 01:57 PM)
Because they cannot do the TT liao. So must be discreet... tongue.gif
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But why resort to money changer, their rate is not much better than Maybank, sometimes worse.

It is too bad we don't have something like Currencyfair (Peer to peer currency exchange) for Malaysian Ringgit, only 0.5% commission to trade at mid-market rate.

 

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