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 ◙PROTON PERSONA◙ V6, our pride n joy

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post Sep 13 2009, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(2fast2furious @ Sep 13 2009, 12:25 AM)
ermm.... how loud is it.... this really depends on individual hearing. For me, its obvious.
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hmm.. if like that I dont think my car got that sound "yet"
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post Sep 13 2009, 03:04 AM

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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Sep 12 2009, 05:14 PM)
depends on the SC......try taking eneos semi 10w40....for that, i had used before..the oil consider thin compare to different oils........its not bad....lighter pedal...or u can just get Mobil Super 2000.......its much better......im had changed 2times, engine remain smooth as baby butt brows.gif
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dude..care to suggest more engine oil apart from eneos & mobil......if can recommend me best oil for persona.
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post Sep 13 2009, 04:41 AM

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QUOTE(seongmeng @ Sep 13 2009, 12:16 AM)
anyone experienced the "kok" sound at driver front right side AFTER the left turning???
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every persona owner will experience it gradually laugh.gif I asked the mech about that problem. He said even hq also still haven't come up with the solution. After a few years of releasing the persona, still cannot solve? rclxub.gif
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post Sep 13 2009, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(heavencloud @ Sep 13 2009, 04:41 AM)
every persona owner will experience it gradually  laugh.gif  I asked the mech about that problem. He said even hq also still haven't come up with the solution. After a few years of releasing the persona, still cannot solve?  rclxub.gif
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OMG...this is so shxt...... mad.gif
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post Sep 13 2009, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(krk24 @ Sep 13 2009, 03:04 AM)
dude..care to suggest more engine oil apart from eneos & mobil......if can recommend me best oil for persona.
thanks! smile.gif
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ok....based on my experience since i had used eneos 10w40 and mobil super 2000 10w40......well i would say both oils are good.....but due to the availability of the engine oils, mobil is easier to get and both are price around the same price Eneos RM97 & Mobil RM98(RM93 after using smiles card)....
acceleration wise both pretty much the same and i felt mobil super is much lighter and rev happy......if u want to get mobil, make sure purchase it ONLY @ petrol station.....
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post Sep 13 2009, 11:01 AM

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hey guys whats the top speed for persona a/t ?? yesterday i tried till 180 but dont dare to go higher than that...tried to catch a saga BLM but the BLM is much faster than me lol...1.3 can tapau 1.6 anytime...even at 180 i cant potong that BLM...

any simple mod to make the persona pickup faster? can feel that the car a bit heavy...

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post Sep 13 2009, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(Asus @ Sep 13 2009, 11:01 AM)
hey guys whats the top speed for persona a/t ?? yesterday i tried till 180 but dont dare to go higher than that...tried to catch a saga BLM but the BLM is much faster than me lol...1.3 can tapau 1.6 anytime...even at 180 i cant potong that BLM...

any simple mod to make the persona pickup faster? can feel that the car a bit heavy...
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i did 195 km/h already.bcoz one of myvi's pissed me off. tongue.gif . tail braking
blm can reach 180 to..but took a long time to reach 180kmh.
btw urs auto or manual?
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post Sep 13 2009, 11:10 AM

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turn off your a/c and you'll see that blm disappear from your sight .. plus, blm won't get to do more than 180 i think... stability-wise, persona more stable at high speed.
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post Sep 13 2009, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(nsty @ Sep 12 2009, 07:43 PM)
Hey jack111,

I think your SC might have problem with that lube because its too thin for Campro. Modern engines should be able to use thin lubes because they have much smaller manufacturing tolerance compared to the 90's, but honestly I would think its too thin for our engines. 30's have lower ability to withstand shearing at high temperature, and you know Campro is pretty hot after you run it for a while, plus our hot climate. However, if you still insist on using it and the SC says some crap about it, you can show your Persona manual pg. 123, "Selection of engine oil" and the only two requirements are API SJ and SAE 20w-50.

Every SC has the tendency to treat you like they know more than you, but I would recommend our fellow forummers to build good relationship with your SC, if you want to get things done. If you think you've got a point, give them a smile and tell them why you think some things should be done in different way smile.gif.

Proton has done good work in consolidating their vendors, and the next step moving forward would be to work on their after sales service, provide "customer service 101" to those sitting at the counters and provide incentives to keep the more experienced mechanics from running away from Proton SC.
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I just change the engine oil at proton sc by using the eneos 5w-30. The sc told me that they will record down that i bring my own oils so next time if any problem occur coz of the engine oil will void the warranty...... But since my car only 10month and just reach 15000Km, so do u think there is big problem to use the eneos oil?
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post Sep 13 2009, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(ryugan @ Sep 13 2009, 11:06 AM)
i did 195 km/h already.bcoz one of myvi's pissed me off. tongue.gif . tail braking
blm can reach 180 to..but took a long time to reach 180kmh.
btw urs auto or manual?
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oh really...didnt know that hahaha...i believe that BLM is on M/T...im driving A/T and got 3 of us in the car...the BLM 1 person only haha...

QUOTE(apahal @ Sep 13 2009, 11:10 AM)
turn off your a/c and you'll see that blm disappear from your sight .. plus, blm won't get  to do more than 180 i think... stability-wise, persona more stable at high speed.
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nice tips there...will off my a/c later ahaha...


Added on September 13, 2009, 11:14 amany of u guys changed filter to open pod style? any recommended brand to use for open pod / drop in?

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post Sep 13 2009, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(Asus @ Sep 13 2009, 11:01 AM)
hey guys whats the top speed for persona a/t ?? yesterday i tried till 180 but dont dare to go higher than that...tried to catch a saga BLM but the BLM is much faster than me lol...1.3 can tapau 1.6 anytime...even at 180 i cant potong that BLM...

any simple mod to make the persona pickup faster? can feel that the car a bit heavy...
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mine is non-iafm automatic also.......most of the time will touch 190km with no dropping gear and hard revving...just smoothly pressing the pedal.....when wanna go topspeed, just turn off aircond...it give less stress on the engine and thus, it will give u more power.....if u on aircond, it will reach 190km or (195km) (tested on klia with 3people in the car) but slower compare to OFF completely..... brows.gif brows.gif


Added on September 13, 2009, 11:29 am
QUOTE(apahal @ Sep 13 2009, 11:10 AM)
turn off your a/c and you'll see that blm disappear from your sight .. plus, blm won't get  to do more than 180 i think... stability-wise, persona more stable at high speed.
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nod.gif nod.gif .....even at 180/190km+++...the steering still did not vibrate...but stability definately persona much better than blm but neo,gen2 is much better than persona..so persona is in between.... laugh.gif

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post Sep 13 2009, 12:12 PM

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hi all persona owners, i hav questions about the tail light of persona. If I turn on the lamp is it all the 4 bulb of the tail lamp will be lights up? I always observing GEN2/persona on the road at night or braking, one of the 4 bulb will not lights up. I checked mine yesterday and found out my left rear light one of the bulb didn't lights up. Mine is a SE 9 months, is it the tail light bulb so fast and easily to be burn? How much does it cost to replace the bulb?
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QUOTE(cktang @ Sep 13 2009, 12:12 PM)
hi all persona owners, i hav questions about the tail light of persona. If I turn on the lamp is it all the 4 bulb of the tail lamp will be lights up?  I always observing GEN2/persona on the road at night or braking, one of the 4 bulb will not lights up. I checked mine yesterday and found out my left rear light one of the bulb didn't lights up. Mine is a SE 9 months, is it the tail light bulb so fast and easily to be burn? How much does it cost to replace the bulb?
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total 2 bulbs on the left and on the right....the most outside bulb is braking and normal light......go get it replaced.....mine after so long nearly 2years..the bulbs still ok...havent burn yet.. wink.gif
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post Sep 13 2009, 02:03 PM

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Just now i overfill petrol, the pump noozle didn't click after full.. few hundreds Ml petrol spill out, my pants get dirty..very embarrass vmad.gif

total amount: rm66.01
total distance: 302km
FC meter: 10.9L/100km
average consumption: rm0.2185 cents shakehead.gif


Added on September 13, 2009, 2:07 pm
QUOTE(cktang @ Sep 13 2009, 12:12 PM)
hi all persona owners, i hav questions about the tail light of persona. If I turn on the lamp is it all the 4 bulb of the tail lamp will be lights up?  I always observing GEN2/persona on the road at night or braking, one of the 4 bulb will not lights up. I checked mine yesterday and found out my left rear light one of the bulb didn't lights up. Mine is a SE 9 months, is it the tail light bulb so fast and easily to be burn? How much does it cost to replace the bulb?
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mine, 3rd brake light..2 bulbs already blow.. doh.gif Thinking of replace all those light with WHITE led..and longer lifespan too brows.gif

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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Sep 13 2009, 09:50 AM)
ok....based on my experience since i had used eneos 10w40 and mobil super 2000 10w40......well i would say both oils are good.....but due to the availability of the engine oils, mobil is easier to get and both are price around the same price Eneos RM97 & Mobil RM98(RM93 after using smiles card)....
acceleration wise both pretty much the same and i felt mobil super is much lighter and rev happy......if u want to get mobil, make sure purchase it ONLY @ petrol station.....
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juz finish 1k serv yesterday.. no choice, have to take that syntium 800, since i didn bring my own motor oil.. felt so weird... well.. for next service, i shall consider mobil 2000..

anybody tried castrol? i saw at assembly plant of dmax.. they use castrol..
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post Sep 13 2009, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(ralf @ Sep 13 2009, 02:03 PM)
Just now i overfill petrol, the pump noozle didn't click after full.. few hundreds Ml petrol spill out, my pants get dirty..very embarrass vmad.gif

total amount: rm66.01
total distance: 302km
FC meter: 10.9L/100km
average consumption: rm0.2185 cents  shakehead.gif


Added on September 13, 2009, 2:07 pm

mine, 3rd brake light..2 bulbs already blow.. doh.gif Thinking of replace all those light with WHITE led..and longer lifespan too brows.gif
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about my mileage...hmm
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post Sep 13 2009, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(cakarsakti @ Sep 13 2009, 03:04 PM)
juz finish 1k serv yesterday.. no choice, have to take that syntium 800, since i didn bring my own motor oil..  felt so weird...  well.. for next service, i shall consider mobil 2000..

anybody tried castrol? i saw at assembly plant of dmax.. they use castrol..
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try to avoid castrol if can....cause there are too many imitations/fakes...which you cannot even differentiate it well....but the oil is good..la...but for me, i rather get some other brands that can purchase @ trusted shops like petrol station kiosk where the chances of getting fake is unlikely....
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post Sep 13 2009, 06:19 PM

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jack111,

Yes they will keep a record of what oil did you bring, but I can tell you that as long as its a API SJ or higher and the oil comes from a reputable company, you'll be safe. Surely they'll use scare tactics like voiding your warranty so that you'll buy oil from them. However you should always keep an eye on your oil level and always check using the dipstick if the engine consumes the thin oil. Once in a while you should take the dipstick out, hold the stick straight and see if the oil drips down quickly like water, if this is the case your engine will have higher wear than usual. Another indicator would be when you start the engine in the morning, you hear "chit chit chit" sound in the beginning then it goes away, sign that your oil isn't doing its job well.

Most of the engine wear occurs during cold starting in the morning, because throughout the night the oil will drop down along with the pull of gravity. In the morning when you start the engine, essentially your cylinder walls are almost dry (if your lube is too thin), but if you use a good lube, it will stick on the walls throughout the day, providing a "boundary lubrication" as we call it which prevents wear caused by engine cold start. So, take good note of the starting of your engine in the morning - if you hear a chit chit sound initially and then it goes away, it means the oil isn't doing enough to protect your engine smile.gif

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post Sep 13 2009, 08:29 PM

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The funny thing is bulb wasn't blown...the 4 bulbs and tail lamp from left to right, A B C D. When I turn on the lights only B, C, D lights on. When I press the brake pedal, all A, B, C, D lights up. Should be something wrong with the electronic's configurations.

For engine oil I used syntium 800 syntectic@rm98 at the SC. The grade should be 15w - 50. I think the grade like 5w - 30 is not suitable as it's for 3 cylinder car like kancil, kelisa...according to mechanic at the tyre shop. Lower number is to protects the engine when cold, it can be 0w no matter but the higher number should be 50 or at least 40 for persona to protect against high temperature running.

Just did the 10,000km service last month and the next service should be 20,000km told by the SC. But the oil changed sticker stated there 15,000km, last time at SC I saw a customer bringing the car for service at 15,000km and the SC told her it's unnessary. I think I'll do the oil change in tyre shop and do the alignment & balancing together.

Plan to shift to shell helix when reaching 15,000km as I always used shell petrol. Using shell RON 95 now, does feels abit sluggish when pick up or 'naik bukit'. FC meter showns 7.6l/100km but the last tank I pumped RM65@RM1.80/l aroung 36 litre runs until 375 km. So actual FC is around 9.6l/100km. Haven't tried to fill in petrol more then 40 litre, the petrol will spilled out from the tank. Highest I filled is rm68@rm1.75/l ron 95 38.85 liter after running another 60km after the fuel warning lights on and refuel again after 350km. The car never be able to fill in more the 40liter fuel although stated 50 liter fuel tank capacity. Never able to runs over 400km for a full tank, highest only reaching 380 km. blink.gif


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post Sep 13 2009, 10:50 PM

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Am considering normal clutch lock club & installation type clutch lock, would like to know which one is better?

Do normal clutch/brake lock compatible on personas, I saw 1 selling at rm129? The installation type is double the price but don't need to remove just use the key to unlock.

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