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shanecross
post Sep 2 2009, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Sep 3 2009, 12:08 AM)
hey thanks man
will check them out
been reading a lot of rave reviews about westside's routine
might check them out
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Doing a Westside routine isn't as simple as it looks. You need to work alot of things out. and you need to atleast have a power rack. Westside emphasizes alot on variation, floor presses, band presses etc. Its tough to do stuff like westside in MY unless you have the eqs. But then if you still insist on doing it , good luck.

RSR sounds good to me though.

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post Sep 4 2009, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(livinginsin @ Sep 4 2009, 06:49 PM)
hey...mm..i am considering a liftting straps for myself..i wonder what type of lifting straps would do best..i look up egonutritions.com and they sell three types.. harbinger with rm26 and rm30+ another 1 is animal which cost rm70..any suggestion??
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Get the cheapest one. Its all the same, some just have a hook .
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post Sep 5 2009, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(jones007 @ Sep 5 2009, 02:15 PM)
i think problem will be fine tho.. because the test was experimented with high fat diet on the mice.. i think its the fat at night lol
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What a way to make a return to HnF, with a post saying that milk is now dangerous. WB anyway. tongue.gif . How's training?
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post Sep 6 2009, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Sep 6 2009, 02:08 AM)
play with u?
malu la pizza
me play light weights only
hahaha
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Lol, play with pizzaboy. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Play chest? Play legs? Play biceps? Play abs? hahahahahha!

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post Sep 6 2009, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Sep 6 2009, 04:54 PM)
lol, you cant actualy get what shane means, he trying to piss pizzaboy off... lol
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devils advocate?
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post Sep 7 2009, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Sep 7 2009, 12:12 AM)
haha
damn
okay pizza time to ban shane
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You can ban the hell out of me, its not going to affect me at all. To me H&F is pure entertainment, heaps of other alternatives out there. wink.gif

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post Sep 10 2009, 07:21 AM

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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Sep 10 2009, 12:22 AM)
Balut FTW! Not just from Philipines, it's available here in HZ too! Taste good, actually!

BTW, what would you guys recommend for grip strength AND endurance?
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My understanding on endurance in terms of weights are getting in more repetitions in a set eg;3 sets of 15 . Grip strength ; grab the heaviest dumbbell in your gym and start doing dumbbell walks.
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post Sep 10 2009, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Sep 10 2009, 02:22 PM)
Found this myself:
http://www.aikidostudent.com/content/?cat=11

And sandbag training.
Actually, I was referring to holding on to heavy weights or odd objects like rocks for loooooooooong periods.

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Well I said Dumbbell Walks because you said you wanted grip strength, so I gave you my POV. It sill does its job for grip work but if you still insist on gripping rocks for what i reason i don't know, then its your call. smile.gif
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post Sep 18 2009, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(Kmaru @ Sep 18 2009, 09:50 PM)
sorry,,, didnt mean too...


Added on September 18, 2009, 8:50 pm

hehe... my bad... might be eating to much instead of not eating..
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post Sep 25 2009, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Sep 25 2009, 01:03 PM)
Trust me, simple is good. Even at my point, I still prefer the simplest methods to get stronger.
One strength exercise, either to build the base, work at maximal strength and an explosive movement after.
Follow Madcow's 5x5. I hate it so much, just cuz it kicks ass so bad and I can't keep up. So I did 3x5 instead.

Until today, I still like using the 3x10/3x8/5x5/3x5/5x3/3x2/2x2/5x1/3x1 (Don't ask, I can't be bothered to explain this. Takes too long) protocol. Those bands, chains, they come later. Wait till you're squatting 4 plates and pulling 5, then we can start talking about bands.
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squat 4 plates and pull 5 plates, you making me sound so inferior. tongue.gif
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post Sep 25 2009, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Sep 25 2009, 03:33 PM)
Your coach isn't making you use bands yet is he?
Let's just talk about developing total strength here first.
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Actually, I dont have bands and chains here..hahah....I need to get my own one...They have it at Norms but not in the Sports Centre
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post Sep 28 2009, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(eanson @ Sep 28 2009, 09:03 PM)
ya...but everytime after i work out..i tend to get tiring n sleepy...scare cant study.. rclxub.gif
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One thing you have to remember. When you are at Uni, you aren't there to be a bber or powerlifter. You are there to study, set your priorities straight. But I don't see training coming in the way. I train 3x a week, and each session doesn't take more than 2 hours. I can understand that you might be wiped out after training, I get the same feeling too. Take a short nap after training, 1 hour or so, not too long because you will have trouble sleeping at night. But when it comes to vacation , balls to the wall baby !
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post Sep 29 2009, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(Florian @ Sep 29 2009, 09:27 PM)
thinking of going to OHM sometime next week, fking tulan with the college gym here, can't really train back properly.
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Where is this OHM gym? KL?
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post Sep 30 2009, 08:32 PM

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Pardon my interruption , but I think going on a regular 5x5 would do the trick. just try to periodize your bench to 5x8 and your squats to 5x3 or 5x5. Deadlifts, keep it 5x5 or 5x3. Kick arse on the accessory work like DB incline , cable rows, bb rows, lat pulldowns, leg presses etc. Once you get stronger on accessory work, you will definitely see some mass and some big lifts on the 3
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post Oct 4 2009, 06:58 AM

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Maybe something like, I want to get huge but I don't want my testicles to shrink? cool2.gif
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post Oct 6 2009, 02:22 PM

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Boiled egg yolks taste nasty, I can't even digest an egg, it makes me sick.

But that doesn't mean eggs are bad for you, I just can't digest them, traumatized. hahah
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post Oct 6 2009, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(bata @ Oct 6 2009, 04:01 PM)
your source for protein is Australian beef then? not fair they're cheap there. and i heard they're more tender too compared to locals and Indias we got here
Chow
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Well yeah, beef and milk, turkey, chicken yadayadayada
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post Oct 13 2009, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(de.crystal @ Oct 13 2009, 01:53 PM)
Dont say like that.  I have been doing research recently.  Yesterday, I did not immediately ask althought i couldnt find any as was planning to do research again. 

btw, i do admit that i am a baby child and i shall take it as a complement, lol  flex.gif
I will do that. 
Opened and swollowed everything mentioned above.  I know you are kind just trying to be harsh, u have a kind heart  thumbup.gif
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post Oct 14 2009, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(kotmj @ Oct 14 2009, 10:24 PM)
Mark Rippetoe is an incredible coach.


Added on October 14, 2009, 9:26 pmLook at how simple he makes it.
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Good video, another thing I like to point out is, you do the thinking away from the bar. once you reach the bar, all you think about is a good setup, tight back, big chest and the most critical thing is to have a single point of focus to make sure you have a good arch. It is easier when you are on lightweights, 160kg etc, when you hit 190,200...you will finally know where is your weakness.

Most people deadlift with a buckled back, this is due to a weak setup and another tip is to NEVER EVER DEADLIFT FACING A MIRROR, always FACE AWAY FROM THE MIRROR. Why so? People tend to look at themselves in the mirror and start looking at their grip, their leg position etc etc, this would result into a bad setup, and thats when people start off their deadlift with a buckled back.

Aggression when deadlifting is totally fine. I personally keep it in the head. I don't go shouting "CMON MOTHAF@CKER! LETS DO IT". Minimize verbal aggression as you walk towards the bar, maintain composure and mental aggression, get a good grip, back tight, head up, big chest and pull.

Look at deadlifts as a squat but the only difference is you are using your hands. Be a machine, avoid other unnecessary movements.

When we talk about reps on deadlifting, there are 2 types of repping methods.

1. Touch and Go

Touch and go is a simple clean touch without a complete pause in between reps. The only issue with this is people tend to bounce the weights off the ground and not completely resetting after every rep therefore the other reps beside the 1st one will look like a stiff leg deadlift which defeats the purpose of a conv. deadlift. The advantage of a TNG deadlift is that this deadlift allows some sort of an overload compared to the Full Reset.

2. Full Reset

A full reset is a little different, You have a complete pause approx few seconds in between reps but you dont release your grip. The thing about this Full Reset Deadlift is that it allows you to have a complete reset setup, so that you don't loose the arch and tightness on your back compared to the Touch and Go deadlift. This doesn't allow as much overload compared to TNG deadlifts. One thing that you have to remember on a FR deadlift, don't drop the bar without any control in between every rep, slow and steady or the bar might just end up in a different spot after every rep.

Grips have been quite a controversial issue. Some people do a mix grip all the time. I mainly use a regular double overhand grip with straps, heck I use straps most of the time. I only use a mixed grip on days that I would like to pull a rep maximum. There have been some talk about using a mix grip all the time but it will effect your shoulder development in terms of balance etc. How true is that? I personally am not sure. Using straps allow more load, saves your palm a little bit from the callus.

Never neglect accessory work and always remember in training, Low reps demonstrate strength, High reps improves strength. To all new trainees out there, don't repeat the same mistake I did. Volume/Bodybuilding work is important.

Sometimes people say," Deadlift, just lift the bar ". Look at it in a more technical point of view and you might just add 10-20kg in no time



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post Oct 15 2009, 10:18 PM

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Your lower back gets taxed , that shows that you need more back muscle

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