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de.crystal
post Oct 10 2009, 12:16 PM

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Dude outside, advise is needed.

I have heard that muscle has 'memory' and hence, we should not do the same routine work forever, there must be increased in speed, and/or weight etc.

When i do hand lifting (sorry i am very weak in the machine's name). I started off at 60 and currently forcing myself to take 60 x 3 sets, at 15 times each and 70 x 1 set at 10 times each. It has been a month already. I still cant just focus doing 70 for 3 sets. It happens for other lifting too. That being the case, will it affect my progress?

For abs, i do the chair exercise. Doing 150 separated in 3 sets. Any other way to loose abs fat?

Lastly, when i come back from gym recently, my muscle is ok. It is not as sore as i firstly joined gym despite i have increased lifting weight etc. Does that mean i have not been effectively working out?

Advise is needed.

thanks.


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QUOTE(de.crystal @ Oct 10 2009, 12:16 PM)
Dude outside, advise is needed.

I have heard that muscle has 'memory' and hence, we should not do the same routine work forever, there must be increased in speed, and/or weight etc.

When i do hand lifting (sorry i am very weak in the machine's name). I started off at 60 and currently forcing myself to take 60 x 3 sets, at 15 times each and 70 x 1 set at 10 times each.  It has been a month already.  I still cant just focus doing 70 for 3 sets.  It happens for other lifting too.  That being the case, will it affect my progress? (1)

For abs, i do the chair exercise.  Doing 150 separated in 3 sets.  Any other way to loose abs fat? (2)

Lastly, when i come back from gym recently, my muscle is ok.  It is not as sore as i firstly joined gym despite i have increased lifting weight etc.  Does that mean i have not been effectively working out? (3)

Advise is needed.

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All your questions, are exactly the reason why these fellows asked you to search a bit.

I'll answer your questions.

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. No.

I don't know why I'm so nice sometimes. Oh well...
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post Oct 10 2009, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Oct 10 2009, 12:21 PM)
All your questions, are exactly the reason why these fellows asked you to search a bit.

I'll answer your questions.

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. No.

I don't know why I'm so nice sometimes. Oh well...
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thanks dude so kind of u thumbup.gif
for 1 and 2 how do i progress?


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post Oct 10 2009, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(de.crystal @ Oct 10 2009, 12:16 PM)
Dude outside, advise is needed.

I have heard that muscle has 'memory' and hence, we should not do the same routine work forever, there must be increased in speed, and/or weight etc.

When i do hand lifting (sorry i am very weak in the machine's name). I started off at 60 and currently forcing myself to take 60 x 3 sets, at 15 times each and 70 x 1 set at 10 times each.  It has been a month already.  I still cant just focus doing 70 for 3 sets.  It happens for other lifting too.  That being the case, will it affect my progress?

For abs, i do the chair exercise.  Doing 150 separated in 3 sets.  Any other way to loose abs fat?

Lastly, when i come back from gym recently, my muscle is ok.  It is not as sore as i firstly joined gym despite i have increased lifting weight etc.  Does that mean i have not been effectively working out?

Advise is needed.

thanks.
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Why are you doing 15 reps? When you can just increase the weight and drop the reps, plus make it 4 sets. I can see you're not taking your training seriously enough.

You need to read more.
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QUOTE(de.crystal @ Oct 10 2009, 01:27 PM)
thanks dude so kind of u  thumbup.gif
for 1 and 2 how do i progress?
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I bold the question

QUOTE(Florian @ Oct 10 2009, 02:43 PM)
Why are you doing 15 reps? When you can just increase the weight and drop the reps, plus make it 4 sets. I can see you're not taking your training seriously enough.

You need to read more.
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And I bolded the answer.

Right now if you're thinking like we're idiots and just refuse to give you the answer, trust me it's a question that's so simple, we DON'T have to give you an answer. Just a quick search and you'll find out. Its truly very simple.


Added on October 10, 2009, 9:05 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lbu_23w3EY&feature=related

I've got the answer to anybody that say they can't squat or deadlift cuz of long limbs.

This giant, is 6'8"


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post Oct 10 2009, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(Florian @ Oct 10 2009, 02:43 PM)
Why are you doing 15 reps? When you can just increase the weight and drop the reps, plus make it 4 sets. I can see you're not taking your training seriously enough.

You need to read more.
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I cant get u, can explain? are u saying that i should do 10 reps for 4 sets, first 2 start with 60 and last 2 ending at 70?

I am serious treating my work out else wont ask the questions here sad.gif


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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Oct 10 2009, 04:09 PM)
I bold the question
And I bolded the answer.

Right now if you're thinking like we're idiots and just refuse to give you the answer, trust me it's a question that's so simple, we DON'T have to give you an answer. Just a quick search and you'll find out. Its truly very simple.
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of course, experts like u all dont have to provide us with the answers. u guys have always been thinking that why are we not doing research.

the thing is, the articles that i found, are so wordy, so technical, sometimes i dont even understand what is it about. it would be easier for you all to explain in simpler language.

anyhow if you all still think that i am not serious enough, i have nothing to say.

thanks anyway


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post Oct 11 2009, 10:22 AM

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You're truly the definition of "I want to be spoon fed" You want the answer, I'll give it to you.

QUOTE(de.crystal @ Oct 10 2009, 12:16 PM)
Dude outside, advise is needed.

I have heard that muscle has 'memory' and hence, we should not do the same routine work forever, there must be increased in speed, and/or weight etc.


When i do hand lifting (sorry i am very weak in the machine's name). I started off at 60 and currently forcing myself to take 60 x 3 sets, at 15 times each and 70 x 1 set at 10 times each.  It has been a month already.  I still cant just focus doing 70 for 3 sets.  It happens for other lifting too.  That being the case, will it affect my progress?

For abs, i do the chair exercise.  Doing 150 separated in 3 sets.  Any other way to loose abs fat?

Lastly, when i come back from gym recently, my muscle is ok.  It is not as sore as i firstly joined gym despite i have increased lifting weight etc.  Does that mean i have not been effectively working out?

Advise is needed.

thanks.
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Muscle memory comes from the wiring of the neuromuscular system. Muscles which have experienced sarcoplasmic and mylofiblar hypertrophy have also wired themselves to the movement better. That has absolutely nothing to do with the routine.

Routines are constantly changed and focused around weaknesses of movement and muscle. A constant rotation to eliminate the bottlenecks. We play with T.U.T. to increase strength around a particular range of motion and promote increase muscular hypertrophy. T.U.T. have to be wisely used under sporting cases because it has a potential to slow an athlete down and mess recovery time, but for muscle building, controlled/slow eccentrics induce a tremendous amount of tearing into the muscle.

I have no idea what the hell you mean by hand lifting, and I'm going to assume you're masturbating.
If you masturbated with 60 strokes a session and then stop and did it for 3 sets at 15x each and 70x1 at 10x each, it has absolutely no meaning whatsoever. Thus your question I can't answer because I've no idea what the hell you're babbling about.

For abs, spot reduction doesn't work. Even if it does work, it's maybe a 5% working rate, and that's probably because of hypertrophy around the core region.

IF it's not as sore as the first time, it's still growing. Do you think that professional bodybuilders and powerlifters and weightlifters feel sore all the time when they go to the gym? I've ramped from 5-7-9-10-11 sessions in a single week. With that many sessions and if I feel sore constantly, I wouldn't be able to function let alone lift. Adaptation allows your body to work more efficiently thus reducing stabilization imbalances. If you'd like to constantly feel sore, you'd have to constantly lift at a load that's beyond your previous maximum. Progressive overloading on steroids. However, even though your main muscles have recovered, the supporting muscles are still not strong enough. When this happens, you just cannot, no matter how hardcore or how hard you may try, to increasing loading.

There.....I've simplified it all the way to levels where even absolutely idiots can understand. Bleah...wy do I do this anyway....


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post Oct 11 2009, 05:23 PM

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Oh my lord, thanks for the explanation love u rclxm9.gif

QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Oct 11 2009, 10:22 AM)
I have no idea what the hell you mean by hand lifting, and I'm going to assume you're masturbating.
If you masturbated with 60 strokes a session and then stop and did it for 3 sets at 15x each and 70x1 at 10x each, it has absolutely no meaning whatsoever. Thus your question I can't answer because I've no idea what the hell you're babbling about.


rclxub.gif y would i wanna mention about diy here? lol just cheked what i meant was using the BICEP CURL MACHINE
3 sets at 15x each at 60 and 70x1 at 10x each, i heard from florian that i should reduce the rep and increase the weight

i understand that our muscle has memory and hence, the weight. previously was only at 50 and 60, now 60 and 70. How can i improve?

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For abs, spot reduction doesn't work. Even if it does work, it's maybe a 5% working rate, and that's probably because of hypertrophy around the core region.
meaning?

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IF it's not as sore as the first time, it's still growing.
growing so is good?

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There.....I've simplified it all the way to levels where even absolutely idiots can understand. Bleah...wy do I do this anyway....

above are the unsure. meaning i am idiot rclxub.gif

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what link is that? cant see also.

thanks also dude thanks for your help notworthy.gif

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post Oct 11 2009, 06:52 PM

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seriously i doubt that anyone else willing to reply your post anymore..
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post Oct 11 2009, 07:08 PM

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Spot on bicep curl guy.
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QUOTE(celion @ Oct 11 2009, 06:52 PM)
seriously i doubt that anyone else willing to reply your post anymore..
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Spot on Amigo!

QUOTE(de.crystal @ Oct 11 2009, 05:23 PM)
above are the unsure.  meaning i am idiot  rclxub.gif

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The idiot's guide to a six pack

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post Oct 12 2009, 08:06 PM

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pizzaboy.. mind sharing the source of the article u paste?
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QUOTE(zaxxshoxx @ Oct 12 2009, 08:06 PM)
pizzaboy.. mind sharing the source of the article u paste?
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It's by Vincent DelMonte. I think it's a paid subscription. Dug it out somewhere.

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post Oct 12 2009, 08:16 PM

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ok. thx biggrin.gif

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google the name found this http://www.vincedelmontefitness.com/blog , im gonna look for the video on torrent.

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I suddenly thought of something.

Let me give you guys an idea about muscle.

It's a BMW (human body) that's not had it's ECU (muscles) tuned.
When you tune it's ECU (Through compound training) you'd be able to encourage more power (muscle) In order to squeeze more power, we need turbocharges (Protein supplements, BCAA, creatine, blablablablabla) and to squeeze the final bit, we use nitrous oxide (steroids)

Many of you, haven't tuned your ECU yet. GO lift some compound weights and tune your ECU. Then we can talk about turbochargers. Also don't forget. Turbochargers can be tuned as well, and that's a few more years of work to get a good combo. biggrin.gif


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Pizzaboy,

LOL! Spot on bro!
This is epic quote! Gonna save it in my link-o-rama.
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post Oct 12 2009, 10:17 PM

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folllowing yesterday's advise obtained herein, today i tried bicep curl started at 70lbs x 15 reps x 2 sets and 80 lbs x 10 reps x 1 set and 7 reps.

I din expect myself to be able to do that. Normally i warmed up at 60lbs then increased to 70lbs. Today just tried kao kao and i did it so damn happy right now.

will try and slowly will conquer the weight lifting area, lol.

thanks to all ya notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(de.crystal @ Oct 12 2009, 10:17 PM)
folllowing yesterday's advise obtained herein, today i tried bicep curl started at 70lbs x 15 reps x 2 sets and 80 lbs x 10 reps x 1 set and 7 reps.

I din expect myself to be able to do that.  Normally i warmed up at 60lbs then increased to 70lbs.  Today just tried kao kao and i did it so damn happy right now.

will try and slowly will conquer the weight lifting area, lol. 

thanks to all ya  notworthy.gif
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The point where you did bicep curls today shows that you don't get the crux of the things I've written.

DO compound exercises (Of course I'm not going to explain what compound is)
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I thought he was feigning stupidity. Now I know he is.

But he is quite likable.


Added on October 12, 2009, 10:38 pmI understand that lots of BB info is presented in a way that a less well-read person will have trouble digesting. There are some humans who have a genetic problem with reading. So to de.crystal:

When you are in the gym, you do these things: SQUAT, DEADLIFT, BENCH PRESS. Ask someone in the gym to teach you how.


Added on October 12, 2009, 10:39 pmRemember: SQUAT, DEADLIFT, BENCH PRESS.

Ada faham?

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