I mentioned in my post that it was intended towards athletic training, which was why I said 'If aesthetics if your goals then someone else could give you better ideas'.

I know this is the BB thread, which is why I'm not gonna elaborate unless you want me to, don't wanna go off topic

Btw, I don't play with the weights, I fight to lift them.
I'm not sure how serious this sprinting thing is for you. If you are serious about it, you might want to check out the works of Charlie Francis. Basically what he does is:

Monday/Wednesday/Friday - Sprints/Pylos in the morning, squats/powerclean/bench in the evening. I'm not saying those are the only exercises his athletes do.

Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday - Tempo runs

Again, sorry for going off topic, this is the BB thread after all.

good idea mate. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1361114

PSA:  Getting sick and not eating/sleeping enough is a great way to cut up (my abs have become visible for the first time in years), but I certainly don't recommend it to anyone else.

Lol. Quick way to get cut no?

I used to do that too but then I learned how to balance my body so that only a slight lift of the heel occurs.

Btw how much you pressing?

PSA:  Getting sick and not eating/sleeping enough is a great way to cut up (my abs have become visible for the first time in years), but I certainly don't recommend it to anyone else.

guys

need helps

my situation is currently studying in boarding school , where the schedule is tight . 6am-5pm study all the way . my free time is only at 5pm-7pm where i would train rugby or do other exercise and after 11pm .
so when should I workout ? night or evening ?

and I still have a tub of Cytogainer . how should I use it ?

just a starting weight, heaviest i went is 110lbs only. Yeah thats wat i studied from most of the videos, its just a slight lift of the heel.
Oh yes, aft my viral infection i lost 4kg XD, fruits and water everyday and some glucose in between.

@Jamis

I noticed that progress is slow for push press,my max 3X5 is 65kgs,If I go for 4th set then I can't do 5.

I do have those in my routine but push presses provide something I can't get from seated presses,the "feel good" factor.

Doesn't make sense I know.

@Jamis

I noticed that progress is slow for push press,my max 3X5 is 65kgs,If I go for 4th set then I can't do 5.

When you train is up to you.

And if you don't want that Cytogainer, give it to me.
Lol... Why are you guys doing push presses when conventional exercises such as seated bb/db press build mass so much faster? The first time i ever went to Terry's gym and he saw me doing MPs and push presses he told me to scrap them off my routine.

Lol... Why are you guys doing push presses when conventional exercises such as seated bb/db press build mass so much faster? The first time i ever went to Terry's gym and he saw me doing MPs and push presses he told me to scrap them off my routine.

is push press any diff from military press? if no i guess i can change it to seated db press then. 
doing rippetoe's btw.

Exactly!!

New PR today:
DB bench press-3X5X80Lbs
Push press-3X5X70Kgs

Just a good day I guess!

I introduce this exercise to my jim wendler's 3/2/1 program, it suppose to increase my maxes by 5lbs(max) each month. I m still try to test out this program and before this i had done db push press which i can roughly hit 65lbs each side but ... yes plateau lol (wasnt using this program tat time). Since i m still on the first cycle, so i want to c how far i can go with this exercise.
I want the cytogainer too...

Is actually i tot the overall compound movement would be good in building up strength for my shoulder. I used to do seated db presses and usually would be doing high reps and if i do that on my low reps day, i dont think i can lift those db thou

For the seated bb press is not behind back right?

is push press any diff from military press? if no i guess i can change it to seated db press then. 
doing rippetoe's btw.

Stick to the Rippetoe 1st, you no need DB works. just follow whatever rippetoe teach. you no need other movement for a moment
once you finish rippetoe (assume 12 week). you should have a nice base and basic knowledge, and you are free to move to other

I go 4 sets heavy 8-10 and 1 pump set light 15-20. So that day at Terry's gym I did:-
80lbs x 12 x 3
75lbs x 10
50lbs x 25

Plus the other isolation stuff; front, lateral, rear delt raises and shrugs. You get the idea bro.
And dumbell press are a compound movement.

Sweet, thx for the headup. Will definitely try it out for my prog

Another option is also viable. I used to think this way too but one can get massive gains in size AND strength from a conventional bb program too. Still, Rippetoe is a solid program.

See.... the thing is, don't follow this exactly. One thing Terry says about bodybuilding is go by feel. Instinctive training. Sometimes you feel a lil bit under the weather, so just hit it up with higher reps and lighter weights. If you're feeling particularly strong, go for PR's but poundages are NOT something you should be paranoid about.

What separates a successful bb'er from a newbie is not only the training, but the ability to know their body, to ditch what doesn't work for them and to apply and modify things which exactly suits them. But certain things do apply. Low reps all the time is a no-no. Go for the pump, always the pump = blood flow, fascia stretching, nutrient transport, I'm sure you know these basics.