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Bluray Players ~ V2, Profile 1.1 ~ 2.0 ~ BD-Live ~ Mutimedia
Bluray Players ~ V2, Profile 1.1 ~ 2.0 ~ BD-Live ~ Mutimedia
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Why there are 2 threads?
Anyway, congrats for V2 (should rename this thread by adding V2). |
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haha u can just edit the one u open earlier no need to close n open another
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v2 reporting in.
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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Aug 10 2009, 02:02 PM) sorry soreeitu sudah tutup Added on August 10, 2009, 6:04 pm QUOTE(arremie @ Aug 10 2009, 10:53 AM) You know y, You Memang TERROR lacos you 1st person to use ma, no one using since then...... that's y no comment and answer lor, This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 10 2009, 06:04 PM |
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another day another low cost USD188 BD player..
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my company just ordered 10 units of bd-rom from hp.... looks like it is getting really cheap... at RM190 per unit
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"Multimedia" for BD-Live is not accurate. The main thing that makes it different than other features is internet connection. So BD-Live is actually "Online Content".
Some BD-Live contents are worth checking out actually, for example if you have Transformers BD, you can download exclusive footage from the upcoming (at that time) sequel. But yes, me myself never even tried BD-Live. Most extra features on the disc itself I never even watched yet. |
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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Aug 11 2009, 07:10 AM) "Multimedia" for BD-Live is not accurate. The main thing that makes it different than other features is internet connection. So BD-Live is actually "Online Content". soree.... what i meant is BD players that's oso built in with multimedia.... the likes of Dune, Oppo 83 which can play mkv's as wellSome BD-Live contents are worth checking out actually, for example if you have Transformers BD, you can download exclusive footage from the upcoming (at that time) sequel. But yes, me myself never even tried BD-Live. Most extra features on the disc itself I never even watched yet. |
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QUOTE(arremie @ Aug 11 2009, 12:12 AM) u mean im SCARY or fear/horror/fright/dread/shock/panic/alarm? Meaning Very "Geng" haha hahalooks like BD is all the way to go now you know what i meant la...... no need be ashame... haha haha Added on August 11, 2009, 7:48 am>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< QUOTE(aiman04 @ Aug 11 2009, 07:37 AM) small matter la bro...Sub heading no more space for extra wordings well... we learn from mistakes... how does it look now... This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 11 2009, 07:50 AM |
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While I was delivering BD60s to my customers yesterday, I received a sms from taukeh mpyw. The content was 'Monster Inc. very keng'. Aiks.... time to save up and buy it.
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Aug 11 2009, 07:49 AM) While I was delivering BD60s to my customers yesterday, I received a sms from taukeh mpyw. The content was 'Monster Inc. very keng'. Aiks.... time to save up and buy it. Those are plural bro, more and more people adapting to BD. And business is going stronger I see. Can't wait for your new project to launch. |
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Yes, BD60 customers
Shall let you guys know about it when it is completely done. |
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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Aug 11 2009, 07:53 AM) Those are plural bro, more and more people adapting to BD. And business is going stronger I see. Can't wait for your new project to launch. QUOTE(htkaki @ Aug 11 2009, 08:05 AM) what project.... ???am i missing something here.... Thanks |
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UJ110 matsushita heard before.. UJ100 not sure..
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Those looking for a BD Player and live in close proximity to Spore can get the JVC XV-BP1 BD Player...Its pretty highly rated. |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Aug 11 2009, 07:12 PM) Those looking for a BD Player and live in close proximity to Spore can get the JVC XV-BP1 BD Player...Its pretty highly rated. is this the 1k+model going to launch in Malaysia (think its the one my dealer fren ask me to wait) Not Bad eh...can playback Mpeg4 movies from USB This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 11 2009, 10:54 PM |
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Anybody knows what wifi adapter we can use with BDP RJ45 port?
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QUOTE(arremie @ Aug 12 2009, 09:21 AM) Pls share if you find it later. Every time I wanna connect to net I have to bring down my wifi router and broadband router from upstairs. Then connect the BDP to one of the LAN port of wifi router. Leceh betul no need ge ma..just buy a 30m or 50m cable just temporarily hook it with the cables lying around oso can ma. I'm thinking of doing the same, if i get hold of one BD-life equipped set well i still can drill holes from my gnd flr room to kitchen then enroute to hall ( looks neat thou ) |
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Aztech homeplug will do just fine. Dirt cheap somemore.
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 12 2009, 09:36 AM) no need ge ma.. c'mon dude....if i want to use cable then i wont be asking this question just buy a 30m or 50m cable just temporarily hook it with the cables lying around oso can ma. I'm thinking of doing the same, if i get hold of one BD-life equipped set well i still can drill holes from my gnd flr room to kitchen then enroute to hall ( looks neat thou ) Added on August 12, 2009, 11:11 am QUOTE(kianwee @ Aug 12 2009, 10:21 AM) I was thinking of the Aztech Homeplug Wifi (RM260 per unit) but the question is will it work by itself (connecting via wifi to upstairs wifi router) or do I need a pair. Anyone has this?This post has been edited by arremie: Aug 12 2009, 11:11 AM |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 12 2009, 02:52 PM) but seems the oppo83 way much better,can support SACD,DVD-A,(think read somewhere support MKV oso,or is mixed up with other brand) Yeah oppo83 does support MKV, but i think that will cost alot. I am looking for an basic entry bd player. The jvc seems to fit the bill. Check out the review [AVS Forum] Post #590 |
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QUOTE(redrum77 @ Aug 12 2009, 04:56 PM) Yeah oppo83 does support MKV, but i think that will cost alot. I am looking for an basic entry bd player. The jvc seems to fit the bill. Check out the review [AVS Forum] Post #590 Wow!!! I'm sold. *Scraps BD60 off imaginary list* |
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QUOTE(redrum77 @ Aug 12 2009, 04:56 PM) Yeah oppo83 does support MKV, but i think that will cost alot. I am looking for an basic entry bd player. The jvc seems to fit the bill. Check out the review [AVS Forum] Post #590 EXTRACT From http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread....62#post16758462Are there any problem discs? Yes, 12 Rounds will not play on the JVC. The disc will also not play properly on a number of players including the Oppo and Pioneer 51. Have there been any firmware updates? How would I download them? There have been no updates since release. We are optimistic one will address the 12 Rounds bug. In all likelihood, you will need to burn the firmware to a cd or save on a usb drive to update; there is no update section within the menu to connect to the internet. If I had to guess, this update section might come with the firmware upgrade a la the LG BH200. ============================= What does 12 Rounds simply Means Thanks |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 12 2009, 06:09 PM) EXTRACT From http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread....62#post16758462 Are there any problem discs? Yes, 12 Rounds will not play on the JVC. The disc will also not play properly on a number of players including the Oppo and Pioneer 51. Have there been any firmware updates? How would I download them? There have been no updates since release. We are optimistic one will address the 12 Rounds bug. In all likelihood, you will need to burn the firmware to a cd or save on a usb drive to update; there is no update section within the menu to connect to the internet. If I had to guess, this update section might come with the firmware upgrade a la the LG BH200. ============================= What does 12 Rounds simply Means Thanks 12 Rounds is a BD movie. go la check it out. http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=5178 |
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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Aug 12 2009, 06:50 PM) Directed by Renny Harlin, director of Die Hard 2 and Cliffhanger.Renny Harlin is not so hot these days, check out The Covenant. Haven't seen this 12 Rounds, but the trailer looks OK. |
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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Aug 12 2009, 07:00 PM) Directed by Renny Harlin, director of Die Hard 2 and Cliffhanger. i only see mkv...because the BD is expensive that time. somemore is not very famous movie.Renny Harlin is not so hot these days, check out The Covenant. Haven't seen this 12 Rounds, but the trailer looks OK. indeed is a nice movie. boom boom pow ... action all the way till end. |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 12 2009, 06:09 PM) EXTRACT From http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread....62#post16758462 12 rounds is a movie. Check out the last post of avs forum, apparently beta firmware is out but in testing stage.Are there any problem discs? Yes, 12 Rounds will not play on the JVC. The disc will also not play properly on a number of players including the Oppo and Pioneer 51. Have there been any firmware updates? How would I download them? There have been no updates since release. We are optimistic one will address the 12 Rounds bug. In all likelihood, you will need to burn the firmware to a cd or save on a usb drive to update; there is no update section within the menu to connect to the internet. If I had to guess, this update section might come with the firmware upgrade a la the LG BH200. ============================= What does 12 Rounds simply Means Thanks |
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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Aug 12 2009, 06:50 PM) Ala.... Stupid ME You see Me no movie Fanatic QUOTE(redrum77 @ Aug 12 2009, 07:11 PM) 12 rounds is a movie. Check out the last post of avs forum, apparently beta firmware is out but in testing stage. wat's with this 12 rounds movie ?Testing Compatibility, This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 12 2009, 07:37 PM |
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if not movie fanatic, then why need a BD player?
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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Aug 12 2009, 08:30 PM) QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 12 2009, 08:56 PM) not movie fanatic means no need BD player? watch BD concerts also ok mah.. with good audio tracks quality.. I still HONOUR what has been said,if you trace back my earlier Mails, i tend to be ambitious on BlockBuster Movies but....but.... then again not all..... ala..... mentioning again, I dont even have Jurassic park, Starwars, Harry potter, Pearl Harbour, Golden Compass, LOTR(this given by fren) and i dont mean Original ones Even those RM8 to RM15 ones oso dont have Bro ar188 said it right, Concerts....concerts... my fren, those considered famous ones la to me, Not Iron Maiden those type of stuffs This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 12 2009, 10:39 PM |
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yeah, but concert not alot yet.
mostly movie now. well.. if you enjoy it then is ok. all is up to u |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 12 2009, 11:10 PM) No point chellen le as the saying goes in chinese**" Yan Pei Yan... Pei Sei Yan" i can buy, but dont see whats the point, furthermore there are lots of movie see once only then cold storage oledi concerts can repeat, repeat, and repeat tak bosan one, some movies also the same like Shaolin Soccer seriously i dont really express interest in lets say Underworld and the likes (tak syok... color not nice same to Terminator Salvation ( who cares even its Block Buster ) well like i say go back to ** |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 12 2009, 11:29 PM) No point chellen le as the saying goes in chinese I think you got ah beng taste la liddat.. shaolin soccer tak bosan.. terminator series already bosan.. **" Yan Pei Yan... Pei Sei Yan" i can buy, but dont see whats the point, furthermore there are lots of movie see once only then cold storage oledi concerts can repeat, repeat, and repeat tak bosan one, some movies also the same like Shaolin Soccer seriously i dont really express interest in lets say Underworld and the likes (tak syok... color not nice same to Terminator Salvation ( who cares even its Block Buster ) well like i say go back to ** |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 12 2009, 11:29 PM) No point chellen le as the saying goes in chinese again another saying**" Yan Pei Yan... Pei Sei Yan" i can buy, but dont see whats the point, furthermore there are lots of movie see once only then cold storage oledi concerts can repeat, repeat, and repeat tak bosan one, some movies also the same like Shaolin Soccer seriously i dont really express interest in lets say Underworld and the likes (tak syok... color not nice same to Terminator Salvation ( who cares even its Block Buster ) well like i say go back to ** 'yao bei shin yao chun bou' mah *cabut* |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 12 2009, 11:39 PM) I think you got ah beng taste la liddat.. shaolin soccer tak bosan.. terminator series already bosan.. that Barger stephen chow is damn hilariousTerminator Salvation..... I didnt say Bosan..... elites own tens, twenty thousands of equipment/gadgets, dont you think its a waste to potray that at 1080p colour also not nice (nuclear war zone..all greyish black) what nice hi-def pix are there to see, for this i only agree on the DTS-HD/MA or True HD sounds only hehe After all this saying i did keep Terminator 3 thou' This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 12 2009, 11:49 PM |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 12 2009, 11:46 PM) that Barger stephen chow is damn hilarious OK la I watch kung fu hustle in hi def more than once. Terminator Salvation..... I didnt say Bosan..... elites own tens, twenty thousands of equipment/gadgets, dont you think its a waste to potray that at 1080p colour also not nice (nuclear war zone..all greyish black) what nice hi-def pix are there to see, for this i only agree on the DTS-HD/MA or True HD sounds only hehe 1080p can be found on 37inch TVs.. and USD199 BD players, not really a yardstick for elite equipment.. |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 12 2009, 11:46 PM) that Barger stephen chow is damn hilarious as i know..terminator salvation not yet have BD. how can you say greyish black?Terminator Salvation..... I didnt say Bosan..... elites own tens, twenty thousands of equipment/gadgets, dont you think its a waste to potray that at 1080p colour also not nice (nuclear war zone..all greyish black) what nice hi-def pix are there to see, for this i only agree on the DTS-HD/MA or True HD sounds only hehe After all this saying i did keep Terminator 3 thou' what source did you see? cinema? |
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QUOTE(robinlim @ Aug 12 2009, 11:40 PM) depends how u look at situation.....this scenario is term LUXURYto many ppl...you buy...i buy i am really happy for them>>><<< to me you jump.....not necessary i will jump other scenario.... everybody want to be like Bill Gates, the late unc Lim Added on August 12, 2009, 11:58 pm QUOTE(maskedchan @ Aug 12 2009, 11:52 PM) as i know..terminator salvation not yet have BD. how can you say greyish black? to be frank i havent seen it at cinemas, but i have seen the Trailers, and noway i am going to keep that BDwhat source did you see? cinema? Its in the nuclear era, what do you expect of the colors........ This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 13 2009, 12:07 AM |
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terminator salvation will be good to workout ur sub. the lfe is crazy and a bit overdone i think.
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we will wait the BD release only can know.
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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Aug 13 2009, 12:04 AM) i fully agree with the AQ and not the PQ on colours what you think of the Underworld colour. is it good Its only the last part you feel relief when the sun rises This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 13 2009, 12:11 AM |
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its "underworld" dude....hence the color
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QUOTE(arremie @ Aug 13 2009, 12:13 AM) its "underworld" dude....hence the color thanks...but not for me good color does not always has to be colorful n bright. its how a movie represent the color thrown at them. edited same goes for Roy Orbison ( Black n White ) we are in an era of Colours suddenly comes this Roy on our LCD's... it just doesn't seem fit. Well maybe i can say for LCD Colour Calibration you need it, ( for LCD's that can potray a true Black and White picture, then you can say your LCD TV is tuned to True to Life Colours My Avatar and Yours.... which is nicer This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 13 2009, 12:25 AM |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 13 2009, 12:14 AM) thanks...but not for me bro, the hi def media is to enable our displays to get closer to what film and the director has to intended to show, . B&W , weird green tint (ala matrix, black hawk down) or color is not the issue la.. it's all about the movie..edited same goes for Roy Orbison ( Black n White ) we are in an era of Colours suddenly comes this Roy on our LCD's... it just doesn't seem fit. Well maybe i can say for LCD Colour Calibration you need it, ( for LCD's that can potray a true Black and White picture, then you can say your LCD TV is tuned to True to Life Colours My Avatar and Yours.... which is nicer |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 13 2009, 01:29 AM) bro, the hi def media is to enable our displays to get closer to what film and the director has to intended to show, . B&W , weird green tint (ala matrix, black hawk down) or color is not the issue la.. it's all about the movie.. i dont have matrix oso and bought black hawk down, cos heard malaysian army was involved,seriously didnt watch oso, maybe will watch it this couple of weeks, ( that was one mistake i made >>they buy i buy<<< haha, that time all DVD's kena sapu so scared nothing to buy next time seriouly i didnt say those movies no good, its a must that directors must produce it the way it was, to follow the story line, like terminator salvation, nuclear war was evolved, you cant see very green grass and stuffs like that right!!! to me if colour not nice its not for me to safe keep, ( but i still watch if ... am, lend a BD..haha haha) Chicago, black book i have but ...in Divico one of the reasons why people keep Pixar anmiations, cartoons,etc is.... cos they want to test out, how those brilliant colours sparkle on their 32" to some 120" screens. |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 12 2009, 11:55 PM) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< I don't want to be the late uncle limdepends how u look at situation.....this scenario is term LUXURY to many ppl...you buy...i buy i am really happy for them>>><<< to me you jump.....not necessary i will jump other scenario.... everybody want to be like Bill Gates, the late unc Lim i want to be the Jr uncle lim |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 13 2009, 09:11 AM) i dont have matrix oso and bought black hawk down, cos heard malaysian army was involved, guess it boils down to personal taste la, i personally like to show off my dark knight and transformer BD when people come to visitseriously didnt watch oso, maybe will watch it this couple of weeks, ( that was one mistake i made >>they buy i buy<<< haha, that time all DVD's kena sapu so scared nothing to buy next time seriouly i didnt say those movies no good, its a must that directors must produce it the way it was, to follow the story line, like terminator salvation, nuclear war was evolved, you cant see very green grass and stuffs like that right!!! to me if colour not nice its not for me to safe keep, ( but i still watch if ... am, lend a BD..haha haha) Chicago, black book i have but ...in Divico one of the reasons why people keep Pixar anmiations, cartoons,etc is.... cos they want to test out, how those brilliant colours sparkle on their 32" to some 120" screens. |
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Dark Knight too draggy cause me to fall asleep. Not in my BD list. Review also not that good and I tend to agree with them.
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 13 2009, 09:11 AM) i dont have matrix oso and bought black hawk down, cos heard malaysian army was involved, want nice color?then go for animated. can test your TV and you BD player.seriously didnt watch oso, maybe will watch it this couple of weeks, ( that was one mistake i made >>they buy i buy<<< haha, that time all DVD's kena sapu so scared nothing to buy next time seriouly i didnt say those movies no good, its a must that directors must produce it the way it was, to follow the story line, like terminator salvation, nuclear war was evolved, you cant see very green grass and stuffs like that right!!! to me if colour not nice its not for me to safe keep, ( but i still watch if ... am, lend a BD..haha haha) Chicago, black book i have but ...in Divico one of the reasons why people keep Pixar anmiations, cartoons,etc is.... cos they want to test out, how those brilliant colours sparkle on their 32" to some 120" screens. e.g. Monster inc, bug life and etc.. sure you will like it. or you would say the movie too childish? Added on August 13, 2009, 10:49 am QUOTE(arremie @ Aug 13 2009, 10:42 AM) Dark Knight too draggy cause me to fall asleep. Not in my BD list. Review also not that good and I tend to agree with them. yeah, agreed. if they cut some of the scene. will be nice movie..almost asleep in the cinema This post has been edited by maskedchan: Aug 13 2009, 10:49 AM |
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partly agree but most of the time action packed, anyway i havent got BD or DVD's for this yet ..hehe
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QUOTE(arremie @ Aug 13 2009, 10:42 AM) Dark Knight too draggy cause me to fall asleep. Not in my BD list. Review also not that good and I tend to agree with them. It still goes back to personal preferenceexample some people like LOTR very much because of the depth of the story some don't like because too much dialogues and draggy for me, I find TDK very enjoying better than Batman Begins watched 3 times (1 time in cinema) and never fall asleep |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 13 2009, 12:14 AM) QUOTE(arremie @ Aug 13 2009, 12:39 AM) QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 13 2009, 12:40 AM) for a moment, I thought I was in the ladies thread .... Added on August 13, 2009, 5:33 pm QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 13 2009, 01:29 AM) bro, the hi def media is to enable our displays to get closer to what film and the director has to intended to show, . B&W , weird green tint (ala matrix, black hawk down) or color is not the issue la.. it's all about the movie.. Yeah, BHD was really grainy, but then again, its artistically put there by Ridley intentionally ... So not much of a showcase for BD. I agree, go for animations/CGIs for sparkling clean videos! Added on August 13, 2009, 5:34 pm QUOTE(arremie @ Aug 13 2009, 10:42 AM) Dark Knight too draggy cause me to fall asleep. Not in my BD list. Review also not that good and I tend to agree with them. You are One in a Million! This post has been edited by Lone*Wolf: Aug 13 2009, 05:34 PM |
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Ehhh...how come this has become a movie thread??
For those Panny BDP users having trouble to connect internet upgrade their firmware like me , can also use CD-R to do so. |
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Use net easy no need to do anything just wait until it's finished and pray no power outage during firmware upgrade
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QUOTE(arremie @ Aug 13 2009, 07:36 PM) Use net easy no need to do anything just wait until it's finished and pray no power outage during firmware upgrade actually use cd-r also not troublesomedownload the file, burn as image, all within 30min no need to worry using net to update suddenly dcn bdp risked being bricked u know streamyx lar, always got dcn issue |
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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Aug 12 2009, 07:00 PM) Directed by Renny Harlin, director of Die Hard 2 and Cliffhanger. It's sort of a copy of 'Speed'. Very similar in many ways. But it has a smart twist at the end.Renny Harlin is not so hot these days, check out The Covenant. Haven't seen this 12 Rounds, but the trailer looks OK. However John Cena still can't act. Better stick to wrestling |
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QUOTE(robinlim @ Aug 13 2009, 07:43 PM) actually use cd-r also not troublesome actually both way also risky if power out before firmware finish flashing.download the file, burn as image, all within 30min no need to worry using net to update suddenly dcn bdp risked being bricked u know streamyx lar, always got dcn issue what i meant by easy is no need to burn into cd-r only. its ok if the line is slow coz the flashing only started after the whole firmware downloaded. |
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Added on August 14, 2009, 7:43 am QUOTE(Ngto @ Aug 13 2009, 09:38 PM) It's sort of a copy of 'Speed'. Very similar in many ways. But it has a smart twist at the end. Really? Interesting. However John Cena still can't act. Better stick to wrestling Don't know who John Cena, I only know The Rock. Added on August 14, 2009, 8:01 amRumor: Slim PS3 Announcement Next Tuesday PlayStation 3 British electronics site Pocket-Lint reports today that its "sources" have confirmed that the slim PS3 is a reality and that Sony will announce it next week. Specifically, it will be officially announced by SCEI chief Kaz Hirai during the press conference that will be held next Tuesday evening (Europe time) at the GamesCom gaming conference in Cologne, Germany. The note contains no information on product details or pricing, but we previously reported that a French source had revealed the slim PS3 would be 100 euros cheaper than the current one (see here). Posted August 13, 2009 08:46 AM by Juan Calonge at Blu-ray.com This post has been edited by aiman04: Aug 14 2009, 08:01 AM |
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QUOTE(arremie @ Aug 13 2009, 10:06 PM) actually both way also risky if power out before firmware finish flashing. the bdp got internal memory to store the downloaded firmware?what i meant by easy is no need to burn into cd-r only. its ok if the line is slow coz the flashing only started after the whole firmware downloaded. not directly updating from web? |
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QUOTE(robinlim @ Aug 13 2009, 07:43 PM) actually use cd-r also not troublesome think many users is knows PC stuff that welldownload the file, burn as image, all within 30min no need to worry using net to update suddenly dcn bdp risked being bricked u know streamyx lar, always got dcn issue so someone can start side income (burning firmware and distribute) QUOTE(arremie @ Aug 13 2009, 10:06 PM) actually both way also risky if power out before firmware finish flashing. if really power failure it happens both ways whether using CD-R's internal BD player flashing oso.what i meant by easy is no need to burn into cd-r only. its ok if the line is slow coz the flashing only started after the whole firmware downloaded. well maybe can start investing in a moderate UPS for firmware upgrade purposes. really have to check with Manufacturers, what happen if power failure during upgrade, will it be dead (have to send back to service center) or can continue to upgrade back from last firmware version |
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power out during flashing will tell u only one thing....u really suey
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QUOTE(arremie @ Aug 14 2009, 11:42 AM) haha.... who ever kena this incident really must go buy lottery really one in a million Added on August 15, 2009, 1:14 amReally need a favour... would anyone be kind enuf, happen to drop by, or know and to confirm whether anymore 51fd in desa or hi-way laser maybe any left over else where oso, thanks This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 15 2009, 01:14 AM |
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hi anybody saw magnavox usd 98 bd player at walmart? it does everything except no lan or wifi for bd live it has latest profile any one ordered it one question iy cant do dolby or dts audio so how will it be decoded or how to get the hd audio out of it?
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QUOTE(Riddhy @ Aug 16 2009, 01:59 AM) hi anybody saw magnavox usd 98 bd player at walmart? it does everything except no lan or wifi for bd live it has latest profile any one ordered it one question iy cant do dolby or dts audio so how will it be decoded or how to get the hd audio out of it? The latest profile is BD-Live, so if it has the latest profile it must have LAN or wi-fi. This means that it only has profile 1.1 only.No experience with this player, but it should at least supports bitstreaming, so if you have current HD AVR with HDMI you should be OK. |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 14 2009, 11:45 AM) haha.... who ever kena this incident really must go buy lottery I think I saw 51FD at Hiway laser. Demo set of course.really one in a million Added on August 15, 2009, 1:14 amReally need a favour... would anyone be kind enuf, happen to drop by, or know and to confirm whether anymore 51fd in desa or hi-way laser maybe any left over else where oso, thanks |
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QUOTE(Ngto @ Aug 16 2009, 09:31 PM) thanks bro Ngtohow many branches are there, i call the tel no on their brochure and they told me Takda and somemore their shop close on Sunday well actually i am also considering oppo 83 or maybe the cheaper JVC, but the warranty again worries me i have called my cousin in JB to checkout for me, and if i really confirmed, maybe ask my bro (actual bro) in Singapore, purchase it, unpack it and leave for dust gathering,then later take back malaysia as a used set but then again if buy so expensive set lagi no local warranty, next year if BD player roll-out with the true 3-D feature, then really jialat lor This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 16 2009, 11:45 PM |
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For sure, there are many better BDP and of course cheaper too, flooding our shore next year.
Why 51FD and not latest BDP? |
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Aug 16 2009, 11:47 PM) For sure, there are many better BDP and of course cheaper too, flooding our shore next year. bro htkaki, you have better alternative/recomendations???Why 51FD and not latest BDP? Pls advice... thanks (edited... so you think i should wait,,,, to be frank i can still tolerate, my3900 with the audica's on DVD is totally a new experience to me) i'm all ears i dont know, maybe i can tolerate the loading times,( it seems if upgrade the 256mb kingston ram) inside to a high speed 2gb SD can improve loading times... it seems oso from specs wise, the 51Fd( wolfsons) betters the 320 and 52 (burrbrowns) DAC on both dedicated stereo,.. more over at the given price of RM1800 FOC 2BD's and HDMI cable, but base on fact finding might not better the OPPO 83 Furthermore the 51FD(RM1800) is identical to the LX71,(RM3400) only difference is 51FD use half (is inferior on Video DAC) but this function is true if you are using component input. i am using a 50" 1080' LCD, so the deep colour of 48 versus the 36 and also the 1080/24p will not show any difference, i budget 3k but still can go for the LX71( but defeats the purpose) so another thought is the OPPO 83 which has very good reviews against the 51FD, 320, and 52' ( well still mixed reviews but %tage wise majority still prefers the 83, maybe for its SACD and DVD-A, not to mention MKV) also BD-live looks important and future proof, but seems no one give a damned oso. so maybe later if i upgrade to projectors, yes the Oppo 83, might have better PQ then again technology changes and maybe that time we could have better players around. This is just my personnel opinion for finalising on a BD player latest this month or next This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 17 2009, 01:54 AM |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 16 2009, 11:38 PM) thanks bro Ngto Where are you located. I was referring to the PJ branch. Like I said, I saw a demo set, don't think they have new ones.how many branches are there, i call the tel no on their brochure and they told me Takda and somemore their shop close on Sunday well actually i am also considering oppo 83 or maybe the cheaper JVC, but the warranty again worries me i have called my cousin in JB to checkout for me, and if i really confirmed, maybe ask my bro (actual bro) in Singapore, purchase it, unpack it and leave for dust gathering,then later take back malaysia as a used set but then again if buy so expensive set lagi no local warranty, next year if BD player roll-out with the true 3-D feature, then really jialat lor |
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Guys need yr help.
Currently I'm using the old Yamaha RX-V995 which do not have HDMI input/output. I wish not to upgrade the AVR since it can still be used. Questions: (1). Can I purchase a blu-ray player that has all the decoding done, then output the HD content (Audio) to my AVR? (2). Which blu-ray player can do this? BD60, Oppo BD83? (3). Any good suggestions are appreciated. |
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(1) Yes. But optical only has enough bandwidth for PCM 2 channels or use core DTS or DD. can't enjoy Full HD audio.
(2) If your current AVR has 5.1 analog inputs, I think you can try DB80. (3) change AVR |
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QUOTE(Reix @ Aug 17 2009, 02:12 PM) (1) Yes. But optical only has enough bandwidth for PCM 2 channels or use core DTS or DD. can't enjoy Full HD audio. Thks for the reply.(2) If your current AVR has 5.1 analog inputs, I think you can try DB80. (3) change AVR I read the Oppo 83 manual. Saw got Analog outputs. Is this output FHD audio? (2). If my current AVR has an analog input, can I enjoy the FHD audio? |
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Hi guys,
I'll finally be getting a BDP soon. Considering one of the following 1) BD60 2) 51FD 3) Oppo 83 Can someone recommend me a store (and est. price if you know). Thanks a bunch. Also, if my AV receiver does not support DTS HD (normal DTS) but has analog input, and i hook it up to the Oppo 83, will I get the same results as a system with DTS HD? Thanks a bunch in advance guys. |
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QUOTE(niveksedroul @ Aug 17 2009, 04:04 PM) Hi guys, if BD 60 consider the JVC XVBP1 also does support mkv (temporarily limited to 4gb )I'll finally be getting a BDP soon. Considering one of the following 1) BD60 2) 51FD 3) Oppo 83 Can someone recommend me a store (and est. price if you know). Thanks a bunch. Also, if my AV receiver does not support DTS HD (normal DTS) but has analog input, and i hook it up to the Oppo 83, will I get the same results as a system with DTS HD? Thanks a bunch in advance guys. no local warranty same as oppo 83 |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 17 2009, 06:58 PM) not much reviews la bro, what display you using again, I think maybe display also need to be taken into consideration to see which will match together well.. BDP/displaydont mind posting site with reviews, so we can really Look, C and compare thanks maybe bro anfield can give insights in this.. |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 17 2009, 01:38 PM) thanks bro Ngto, I saw Harvey Norman over here got lots of 51FD. Too bad they don't have any branches over at your location.i am in Ipoh, have already called uo 03-7673-8325 and it seems that all 3 shops oso dont have This post has been edited by Ngto: Aug 17 2009, 09:24 PM |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 17 2009, 07:10 PM) what display you using again, I think maybe display also need to be taken into consideration to see which will match together well.. BDP/display Thanks for the replies guys.maybe bro anfield can give insights in this.. Mine is Sharp 42" 63M series. 60Hz era fellow. I suppose it won't really be able to take full advantage of those higher end players? My two cents. This post has been edited by niveksedroul: Aug 17 2009, 09:34 PM |
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QUOTE(niveksedroul @ Aug 17 2009, 09:33 PM) Thanks for the replies guys. you get the idea where I was heading... Mine is Sharp 42" 63M series. 60Hz era fellow. I suppose it won't really be able to take full advantage of those higher end players? My two cents. I mean, new model players come out every year, why pay to get this years flagship player when display isn't up to par to take advantage.. especially with BD, we just treat the BDP as bare transport via HDMI.. everything pipe to the AVR and TV to decode (when playing BD materials).. when upgrade the Display time say 2years later, those mid/entry priced BDP players also will surpass 2years ago flagship BDP already |
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QUOTE(niveksedroul @ Aug 17 2009, 09:33 PM) Thanks for the replies guys. Does it accept a 24Hz signal? Else it would be important to get a proper BD player that can output at 1080p/60Hz to minimize post processing errors in ur set. Mine is Sharp 42" 63M series. 60Hz era fellow. I suppose it won't really be able to take full advantage of those higher end players? My two cents. As ar188 says, the display is one of the most important aspects of the HT. Any deficiencies will show up there... |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Aug 17 2009, 10:44 PM) bro, when coming to KL.. ?? should meet at mpyw's place can TKSS there.. |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 17 2009, 10:40 PM) you get the idea where I was heading... already have your thoughts in mind,I mean, new model players come out every year, why pay to get this years flagship player when display isn't up to par to take advantage.. especially with BD, we just treat the BDP as bare transport via HDMI.. everything pipe to the AVR and TV to decode (when playing BD materials).. when upgrade the Display time say 2years later, those mid/entry priced BDP players also will surpass 2years ago flagship BDP already My preference is to have a good BD player, with good CD playback thru dedicated Analog outs, to replace my existing player, Mc'Cormack Prism II as i have already sold of all my Hi-fi separates. If i were to get the OPPO 83 (its only the Warranty status and whether its worth the "RM" being spent or not, else will be the 51FD ) that supports SACD, MKV, then it make sense for me to sell off the Mc'Cormack Prism II, I know SACD maybe is near EOL If i cant find one to substitute, then will downgrade and follow your way Added on August 17, 2009, 11:20 pm QUOTE(anfieldude @ Aug 17 2009, 10:44 PM) Does it accept a 24Hz signal? Else it would be important to get a proper BD player that can output at 1080p/60Hz to minimize post processing errors in ur set. I agree, as i believe there are still many people ( maybe ratio 1:30 ) that have LCD's and projectors which do not support the 1080/24p signal as well as 36 and 48 deep colourAs ar188 says, the display is one of the most important aspects of the HT. Any deficiencies will show up there... This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 17 2009, 11:20 PM |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 17 2009, 11:16 PM) already have your thoughts in mind, my way is just the cost conscious method.. if you do feel otherwise, you are welcome to help the domestic economy.. My preference is to have a good BD player, with good CD playback thru dedicated Analog outs, to replace my existing player, Mc'Cormack Prism II as i have already sold of all my Hi-fi separates. If i were to get the OPPO 83 (its only the Warranty status and whether its worth the "RM" being spent or not, else will be the 51FD ) that supports SACD, MKV, then it make sense for me to sell off the Mc'Cormack Prism II, I know SACD maybe is near EOL If i cant find one to substitute, then will downgrade and follow your way Added on August 17, 2009, 11:20 pm I agree, as i believe there are still many people ( maybe ratio 1:30 ) that have LCD's and projectors which do not support the 1080/24p signal as well as 36 and 48 deep colour |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Aug 17 2009, 10:44 PM) Does it accept a 24Hz signal? Else it would be important to get a proper BD player that can output at 1080p/60Hz to minimize post processing errors in ur set. My TV does not support 24p. Bummer. <1yr old and already feeling the obsolete-ness.As ar188 says, the display is one of the most important aspects of the HT. Any deficiencies will show up there... Will look for a BDP that outputs at 60Hz. Thanks anfieldude and ar188. |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 17 2009, 11:22 PM) my way is just the cost conscious method.. if you do feel otherwise, you are welcome to help the domestic economy.. cost conscious with reasonable facts that maximise usage, "Its beyond unreasonable doubt"On the contary i heard some Sifu's mumbling b4, that if you can get a source that can say output to the max of 1080/24p at 48 deep colour its definitely better than standard BD Player that outputs at 1080p, so your LCD will have a better pix when it downscale back anybody can support this theory?? thanks |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 17 2009, 11:32 PM) cost conscious with reasonable facts that maximise usage, "Its beyond unreasonable doubt" have to wait for sifu anfield.. he seen /calibrated quite a number of tellys to notice them..On the contary i heard some Sifu's mumbling b4, that if you can get a source that can say output to the max of 1080/24p at 48 deep colour its definitely better than standard BD Player that outputs at 1080p, so your LCD will have a better pix when it downscale back anybody can support this theory?? thanks |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 18 2009, 12:08 AM) wooh .... thats goodAdded on August 18, 2009, 1:02 am QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 17 2009, 07:32 PM) bro chewkl.... thought was "HornyAngMoh"This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 18 2009, 01:02 AM |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 17 2009, 11:32 PM) cost conscious with reasonable facts that maximise usage, "Its beyond unreasonable doubt" BDs are encoded in YCbCr 4:2:0 with colour bits of 8bits per colour (24bits in all RGB). Deep Colour is essentially 30, 36, 48bits. The colour needs to be converted from 24bit to 30, 36 and 48bits. Deep Colour is supposed to reduced banding and increase colour depth and all. Most displays are 8bit displays. There are some that are 10 (30)bits, 12(36) bits and 16 (48bits). Some BD players have the ability to convert to 30bits, 36bits and 48bits. This is done via a chip or algorithms. PS3, Pioneer and Oppo can do this. Or the display can do this.On the contary i heard some Sifu's mumbling b4, that if you can get a source that can say output to the max of 1080/24p at 48 deep colour its definitely better than standard BD Player that outputs at 1080p, so your LCD will have a better pix when it downscale back anybody can support this theory?? thanks Now the interesting part, there are no BDs encoded with Deep Colour, so conversion is the only way to go. I have tested the 36bits, 30bits on my display that supposedly is 36bit capable and have seen nothing different. That said, my display does not have banding anyway, so maybe it has no effect on my display. Even on test signals I cannot see the benefit of this as yet. Maybe on some displays (Sammys are 30 bit, Sonys are 36bit, Pioneer 36bit) the colour conversion is already good enough that I cannot see the benefit. Some people have seen the benefit on test patterns, but I could not. Then again, I am an amateur, maybe I need to train my eyes more. Also will retest this on a bigger screen next month. Also remember that your display will convert the signal (YCbCr) to RGB. This colour space conversion can also cause problems. HDTVs do a lot of processing that people take for granted. My take is get a decent BD player (that does not mess up the signals to the display )but make sure that your display is very good. You will benefit more from that. This post has been edited by anfieldude: Aug 18 2009, 09:39 AM |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Aug 18 2009, 09:38 AM) BDs are encoded in YCbCr 4:2:0 with colour bits of 8bits per colour (24bits in all RGB). Deep Colour is essentially 30, 36, 48bits. The colour needs to be converted from 24bit to 30, 36 and 48bits. Deep Colour is supposed to reduced banding and increase colour depth and all. Most displays are 8bit displays. There are some that are 10 (30)bits, 12(36) bits and 16 (48bits). Some BD players have the ability to convert to 30bits, 36bits and 48bits. This is done via a chip or algorithms. PS3, Pioneer and Oppo can do this. Or the display can do this. thanks bro anfiel for your technically brief detailed explanation...Now the interesting part, there are no BDs encoded with Deep Colour, so conversion is the only way to go. I have tested the 36bits, 30bits on my display that supposedly is 36bit capable and have seen nothing different. That said, my display does not have banding anyway, so maybe it has no effect on my display. Even on test signals I cannot see the benefit of this as yet. Maybe on some displays (Sammys are 30 bit, Sonys are 36bit, Pioneer 36bit) the colour conversion is already good enough that I cannot see the benefit. Some people have seen the benefit on test patterns, but I could not. Then again, I am an amateur, maybe I need to train my eyes more. Also will retest this on a bigger screen next month. Also remember that your display will convert the signal (YCbCr) to RGB. This colour space conversion can also cause problems. HDTVs do a lot of processing that people take for granted. My take is get a decent BD player (that does not mess up the signals to the display )but make sure that your display is very good. You will benefit more from that. congrats on your 36bit display ( 1:1000 ratio to have it in "layman" terms, you have any comments or done experimenting to normal LCD with 36bit player vs normal 1080p normal player, does the PQ makes any difference if we use a 36/48 bit BD Plyer....thanks to me test patterns, are not important, ( test patterns might fail ) as we are too engrossed... living on theory, benchmarks, S/N ratio etc. yes i do agree, when searching for your ultimate BD player amongst the bunch, we pause/freeze to look for hairline details, facial pimples, jaggies, you need that as reference, but at ones' day, we will be to engrossed in the movie not to mention the accompanying sound we still find thats the best we have in our HT or living room. This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 18 2009, 10:47 AM |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 18 2009, 10:39 AM) thanks bro anfiel for your technically brief detailed explanation... QUOTE:congrats on your 36bit display ( 1:1000 ratio to have it in "layman" terms, you have any comments or done experimenting to normal LCD with 36bit player vs normal 1080p normal player, does the PQ makes any difference if we use a 36/48 bit TV. I have tested the 36bits, 30bits on my display that supposedly is 36bit capable and have seen nothing different. That said, my display does not have banding anyway, so maybe it has no effect on my display. cheers.. |
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QUOTE(arremie @ Aug 18 2009, 09:23 AM) hahaQUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 18 2009, 10:48 AM) QUOTE: typpo error bro should be 36/48 BD player and not TVI have tested the 36bits, 30bits on my display that supposedly is 36bit capable and have seen nothing different. That said, my display does not have banding anyway, so maybe it has no effect on my display. cheers.. |
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QUOTE(jimmyteng18 @ Aug 17 2009, 02:28 PM) Thks for the reply. I've checked and too bad, my old AVR do not have Analog outs...aiyah..need to save to get a new AVR.I read the Oppo 83 manual. Saw got Analog outputs. Is this output FHD audio? (2). If my current AVR has an analog input, can I enjoy the FHD audio? I'm looking at Denon AVR, which model good? Budget <rm3k. |
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QUOTE(jimmyteng18 @ Aug 18 2009, 11:02 AM) I've checked and too bad, my old AVR do not have Analog outs...aiyah..need to save to get a new AVR. Why you need analogue outs on the AVR? What you need is analgue IN if your AVR doesn't have HDMI. It's the BD player that must have analogue outs.I'm looking at Denon AVR, which model good? Budget <rm3k. |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 18 2009, 11:01 AM) The Oppo BD83 is a player capable of sending out 36bit and 30bit. I believe the Pioneers are the ones touting 48bit. I have tested the output of 30bit, 36bit on a 36bit capable display and have not seen any visible difference. I believe I need to look for animation titles that have been known to introduce banding (then again this is already in the source encoding, am not sure if the display can correct this) and check again. The next time I have a chance to calibrate a display thru a Pioneer BD Player I will try to see if I can check....ronnt maybe will recheck in yours. The sammys are also supposed to be 10bit panels. (pls remember that a panel can be 10bit but it can have a colour processor that can output at 12bit) My honest opinion, Deep Colour is way over rated. Don't pay too much attention for now. |
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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Aug 18 2009, 11:32 AM) Oh OK, which model is that? Desa Kepong RM1900Maybe can get the Denon 1909, my friend bought it for RM2.1k if I van remember correctly. QUOTE(anfieldude @ Aug 18 2009, 11:53 AM) The Oppo BD83 is a player capable of sending out 36bit and 30bit. I believe the Pioneers are the ones touting 48bit. I have tested the output of 30bit, 36bit on a 36bit capable display and have not seen any visible difference. I believe I need to look for animation titles that have been known to introduce banding (then again this is already in the source encoding, am not sure if the display can correct this) and check again. thanks for your valuable time... graciousThe next time I have a chance to calibrate a display thru a Pioneer BD Player I will try to see if I can check....ronnt maybe will recheck in yours. The sammys are also supposed to be 10bit panels. (pls remember that a panel can be 10bit but it can have a colour processor that can output at 12bit) My honest opinion, Deep Colour is way over rated. Don't pay too much attention for now. your experties again, so far in yr opinion which is BD player you have tested producing the best PQ, and also the BD models you have lay hands on... thanks PS: and also best as CD audio AQ terima kasih This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 18 2009, 12:01 PM |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 18 2009, 11:56 AM) Desa Kepong RM1900 Honestly, I have not played around with too many BD players to pass judgement. thanks for your valuable time... gracious your experties again, so far in yr opinion which is BD player you have tested producing the best PQ, and also the BD models you have lay hands on... thanks PS: and also best as CD audio AQ terima kasih I do know this though, the Oppo BD83 if not compared to anything, has good 2 channel stereo for CD as well. However, when compared to my standalone Holfi modified Xara CD player, the Xara sounds more musical and less digital. I will probably have to borron ron's pioneer to test out side by side to see if I can judge the sound for 2 channel stereo. PQ, I believe most people will not be able to see the difference between the BD60, Pioneer, PS3 or Oppo for Blu Ray. It is not too different, unless you have a big screen (>50in, more apparent in >80in, still very little) and you really really really look for them. For SD upconversion, yeah you will see differences. I believe the Pioneer BD LX52 and Oppo are pretty good (better than PS3 and Pioneer DV600 DVD player) I have played around on the BD60, Marantz (1.1), Oppo BD83, PS3, briefly the Pioneer 51FD and the older BD35. Also ron's LX52 very briefly. |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Aug 18 2009, 01:32 PM) Honestly, I have not played around with too many BD players to pass judgement. Finally we are getting in to something that should enlighten potential BD buyersI do know this though, the Oppo BD83 if not compared to anything, has good 2 channel stereo for CD as well. However, when compared to my standalone Holfi modified Xara CD player, the Xara sounds more musical and less digital. That should be the case, it shouldnt better a dedicated CD, however i still can buy the idea if its "close proximity" base on Oppo 83's est. 3K against some dedicated CD of similar pricing !! I will probably have to borron ron's pioneer to test out side by side to see if I can judge the sound for 2 channel stereo. PQ, I believe most people will not be able to see the difference between the BD60, Pioneer, PS3 or Oppo for Blu Ray. It is not too different, unless you have a big screen (>50in, more apparent in >80in, still very little) and you really really really look for them. For SD upconversion, yeah you will see differences. I believe the Pioneer BD LX52 and Oppo are pretty good (better than PS3 and Pioneer DV600 DVD player) I have played around on the BD60, Marantz (1.1), Oppo BD83, PS3, briefly the Pioneer 51FD and the older BD35. Also ron's LX52 very briefly. Any idea on Pana's big brother BD-80 thanks again |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 18 2009, 02:10 PM) moomos, when u come over to penang, let me know, u can judge for yourself and make a decision if the Oppo is good enuf for your 2 channel stereo pleasure. Also I have not seen or meddled with the BD80, I am not even sure u can get it in Malaysia. This post has been edited by anfieldude: Aug 18 2009, 02:18 PM |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Aug 18 2009, 02:17 PM) moomos, when u come over to penang, let me know, u can judge for yourself and make a decision if the Oppo is good enuf for your 2 channel stereo pleasure. thank you for your utmost valuable time, advise and thanks for your invitation too....Also I have not seen or meddled with the BD80, I am not even sure u can get it in Malaysia. |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 18 2009, 02:30 PM) I'm afraid I cannot help get the Oppo for you but I can point you in the right direction (Spore).I got mine in the early adoption plan after the beta testing was completed. It was sent to a US address and used there by a friend before sending over to Malaysia. Also I am not a dealer for anything. Its a more of a hobby... |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Aug 18 2009, 02:38 PM) I'm afraid I cannot help get the Oppo for you but I can point you in the right direction (Spore). so to bother...I got mine in the early adoption plan after the beta testing was completed. It was sent to a US address and used there by a friend before sending over to Malaysia. Also I am not a dealer for anything. Its a more of a hobby... you have the singapore dealer contact and roughly the estimated price FOB or is it CIF malaysia thanks |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Aug 18 2009, 03:00 PM) thanksemailed them adi, see how good is their customer service ( there are well known too for that) Added on August 18, 2009, 6:14 pmit seems that the BD-live, will enable one to view free movies online in the near future ( anyone can confirm ) This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 18 2009, 06:14 PM |
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The slim PS3 will be released on August 24 for $299.99. It comes with a 120GB HDD. More to come. Stay tuned!
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i heard old fat ps3 will be usd 299 not the slim slim one hasnt announced yet
also guys plz tell me what are the latest model bd player i can get in MSIA?? whats the price of bd60 here? and oppo one?? in USA its usd 194 and lg bd270 is usd 180 if i import a bd player from amazon do i have to pay taxes here?? |
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Slim PS3 Officially Announced
To quote Chazz Palminteri on 'The Usual Suspects': "a rumor's not a rumor that doesn't die." Today at the gamescom conference in Cologne, Germany, SCEI chief Kaz Hirai officially announced the Slim PS3, available in stores from the first week of September. Price will be $299 in the US, €299 in Europe, £249 in the UK and ¥29,980 in Japan. The US version can be Pre-ordered Now From Amazon.com. The UK version can be Pre-ordered Now From Amazon.co.uk. ![]() The "classic" PS3 and the slim PS3, side by side. Features and connections are the same as on existing models. It'll include a 120GB hard drive (upgradeable). According to SCE, the internal design architecture of the new PS3 system, from the main semiconductors and power supply unit to the cooling mechanism, has been completely redesigned. Size, weight and energy requirements are cut by a third. Dimensions are 290×65×290 mm (11.4×2.6×11.4 in). Weight is 3.2 kg (7.0 lbs). Power consumption is approximately 250W. Noise is also reduced, although no specific figure was given. As regards the outside look, the form factor of the new PS3 system features a new design with textured surface finish (in charcoal black vs the piano black finish on previous models), giving "an all new impression and a casual look," which the company hopes "will appeal to a wider audience." ![]() Kaz Hirai showing the slim PS3 (photo PerezStart) With the introduction of the new PS3 system, SCE will also reduce the price of the current PS3 with 80GB HDD to an RRP of US$299/€299. Also in North America, the price of PS3 with 160GB HDD will be reduced to an RRP of US$399 from August 18. For other information on the SCEE conference at gamescom. Posted August 18, 2009 01:37 PM by Juan Calonge at Blu-ray.com. |
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Spec sheet: Product name: PlayStation 3 Product code: CECH-2000A (Charcoal Black) CPU: Cell Broadband Engine™ GPU: RSX Audio output: LPCM 7.1ch, Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, DTS, DTS-HD, AAC. Memory: 256MB XDR Main RAM, 256MB GDDR3 VRAM Hard disk: 120GB 2.5" Serial ATA USB 2.0 ports: 2 Networking: Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T), IEEE 802.11 b/g, Bluetooth 2.0 (+EDR) Controller: Wireless Controller (Bluetooth) x 1 AV outputs: HDMI x 1, AV MULTI OUT x 1, Digital out (optical) x 1 Resolutions: 1080p, 1080i, 720p, 480p, 480i (for PAL 576p, 576i) BD / DVD / CD drive (read only): BD × 2 (BD-ROM), DVD × 8 (DVD-ROM), CD × 24 (CD-ROM) Power: AC 220 – 240, 50/60Hz Power consumption: Approx. 250W External dimensions (excluding maximum projecting part): Approx. 290 × 65 × 290 mm (width × height × length) Mass: Approx. 3.2kg Included in box: PlayStation 3 system × 1, Wireless Controller (DUALSHOCK 3) × 1, AC power cord × 1, AV cable × 1, USB cable × 1 |
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Audio output: LPCM 7.1ch, Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, DTS, DTS-HD, AAC.
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available in september. the expected price is rm1200 and the previous model will drop to rm900.
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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Aug 19 2009, 07:41 AM) Audio output: LPCM 7.1ch, Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, DTS, DTS-HD, AAC. Specs the same as older PS3 model. That "audio output" should actually means "audio support" or something like that. No bitstream.bit stim coming?? ?? But yes, all new designed but they didn't bother to upgrade to make it lossless audio bitstream capable, makes you wonder. I think this is intentional, or else the standalone BD players got no advantage at all. |
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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Aug 19 2009, 08:10 AM) But yes, all new designed but they didn't bother to upgrade to make it lossless audio bitstream capable, makes you wonder. I think this is intentional, or else the standalone BD players got no advantage at all. IMO their strategy is misplaced. Sony fears the PS3 will take away sales from their own standalone BD players. But in the macro perspective how big is Sony in the BD player market? If they enable the PS3 to bitstream audio it lessens the advantage of all standalone BD players (Sharp, JVC, Panasonic, Pioneer, etc). It will cannibalize Sony as well, but imagine the potential customers from all the other brands suddenly turning to the PS3. It's like "lose some, but gain a lot". |
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QUOTE(jchong @ Aug 19 2009, 08:18 AM) IMO their strategy is misplaced. Sony fears the PS3 will take away sales from their own standalone BD players. But in the macro perspective how big is Sony in the BD player market? If they enable the PS3 to bitstream audio it lessens the advantage of all standalone BD players (Sharp, JVC, Panasonic, Pioneer, etc). It will cannibalize Sony as well, but imagine the potential customers from all the other brands suddenly turning to the PS3. It's like "lose some, but gain a lot". totally agree with you, bro! if that is the case, I would definitely buy new PS3 and used it as BDP and game console! |
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QUOTE(jchong @ Aug 19 2009, 08:18 AM) IMO their strategy is misplaced. Sony fears the PS3 will take away sales from their own standalone BD players. But in the macro perspective how big is Sony in the BD player market? If they enable the PS3 to bitstream audio it lessens the advantage of all standalone BD players (Sharp, JVC, Panasonic, Pioneer, etc). It will cannibalize Sony as well, but imagine the potential customers from all the other brands suddenly turning to the PS3. It's like "lose some, but gain a lot". I think their strategy is still driven towards the Blu-ray format in general. It won the war but the DVD is still far ahead to catch up. By letting other electronic brands to support the format, they are expanding the format so it's more reachable to consumers. Most household will have at least one type of movie player, but not necessarily all of them play video games thus won't be exposed to the format. |
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Aug 19 2009, 08:54 AM
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So you think Sony might wait until the blu ray adoption becomes higher / more mainstream and then bam, out comes super duper PS3! Could be another tactic too...
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Aug 19 2009, 09:36 AM
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QUOTE(jchong @ Aug 19 2009, 08:54 AM) So you think Sony might wait until the blu ray adoption becomes higher / more mainstream and then bam, out comes super duper PS3! Could be another tactic too... I don't think they will come out a super duper PS3 as the cost of producing it will be sky highthey are already trailing behind Wii and XBox in terms of sales cutting cost to bring down the price is more important for them enabling the bit-streaming function might have additional cost incurred Introducing a more advanced and more expensive ps3 is just a commit suicide act Unless Sony has become the sole gaming console supplier and home gamers don't have choices This post has been edited by robinlim: Aug 19 2009, 09:40 AM |
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Aug 19 2009, 09:45 AM
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At that price point and with the improved features, I believe it will definitely take marketshare away from those intending to buy dedicated BDPs.
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Aug 19 2009, 10:23 AM
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ur forgetting the point....its not a BDP....its a gaming console...... features added to it will be to improve it as a gaming console..... its very bad/poor business strategy to reposition it as a BDP as it will end up backfiring very badly on their dedicated BDP. And being so cheap it will also in turn affect their R&D budget for bluray....meaning newer innovations will take longer to come out....
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QUOTE(pgf501 @ Aug 19 2009, 08:05 AM) Can I ask where you got the pricing from?I read that the previous model reduced price 80Gb to US299 but that is the same price as the new PS3 slim not cheaper. If they drop the RM900, that would be the cheapest BD player around... |
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Aug 19 2009, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE(Lone*Wolf @ Aug 18 2009, 11:30 PM) one problem facing 'slim' devices has always been heat dissipation. wonder whether this is gonna be an issue? power on the new device has been reduced.. that indirectly would have migrated some of the heat issue as well.. hope the BD laser head is more robust now.. |
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Aug 19 2009, 01:30 PM
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I still like my first-gen PS3. Can play all of my five SACD.
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QUOTE(Bishop @ Aug 19 2009, 01:07 PM) Can I ask where you got the pricing from? Price of the original PS3 dropped to $299, so it's cheaper than before but will be as low as RM900 locally. But the price new Slim PS3 will just be the same.I read that the previous model reduced price 80Gb to US299 but that is the same price as the new PS3 slim not cheaper. If they drop the RM900, that would be the cheapest BD player around... QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 19 2009, 01:22 PM) power on the new device has been reduced.. that indirectly would have migrated some of the heat issue as well.. Yes, 34% lower power consumption.hope the BD laser head is more robust now.. QUOTE(terranova @ Aug 19 2009, 01:30 PM) Yours the 60GB with hardware PS2 compatibility? Mine is the second generation 80GB, all same, can play SACDs and PS2 compatible but by software. |
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Below 2 pix of pioneer BDP-320 and BDP-LX52 notice any difference besides the RS232 board at top left corner and another small IC by the Left side
[attachmentid=1146743] BDP-320 [attachmentid=1146744] BDP-LX52 Seems overall performance the 52 beats the 320 DVD upscalling, Bluray AQ/PQ and a big margin on 2 channel stereo |
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Aug 19 2009, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 19 2009, 03:37 PM) Below 2 pix of pioneer BDP-320 and BDP-LX52 notice any difference besides the RS232 board at top left corner and another small IC by the Left side from the looks of it, the PCB looks cheapo.. and uses a computer BD-rom transport [attachmentid=1146743] BDP-320 [attachmentid=1146744] BDP-LX52 Seems overall performance the 52 beats the 320 DVD upscalling, Bluray AQ/PQ and a big margin on 2 channel stereo |
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this the panasonic BD-60 looks more solid le ( pioneer really jialat le but performance better wor )
[attachmentid=1147123] Internal layout BD-60 [attachmentid=1147124] Transport Close-up View |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 19 2009, 07:25 PM) this the panasonic BD-60 looks more solid le ( pioneer really jialat le but performance better wor ) once you look at all these internal cables and the RCA ports ,makes you wonder how come spend few hundred on RCa audio cables entering a RM2.00 RCA jack.... [attachmentid=1147123] Internal layout BD-60 [attachmentid=1147124] Transport Close-up View |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 19 2009, 07:36 PM) once you look at all these internal cables and the RCA ports ,makes you wonder how come spend few hundred on RCa audio cables entering a RM2.00 RCA jack.... the digital out is on spdf ( or is it spidf) riteit all bd-rom transport-like now, unlike the dedicated CD transports |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 19 2009, 07:58 PM) the digital out is on spdf ( or is it spidf) rite I meant the analog RCA ports to hook up to audio amp (using costly RCA cables), cos you seem to be interested in more on the analog audio side of the BDP mah. it all bd-rom transport-like now, unlike the dedicated CD transports |
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Aug 19 2009, 08:25 PM
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BD60 is too bright when playing stereo CD. Sakit telinga
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QUOTE(arremie @ Aug 19 2009, 08:25 PM) was refering to those pioneers.. Added on August 19, 2009, 8:31 pm QUOTE(aiman04 @ Aug 19 2009, 08:25 PM) got engrund teacher, now got jargon teacher.. This post has been edited by ar188: Aug 19 2009, 08:31 PM |
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Its a metaphor bro. Not sakit telinga per se
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with klips speakers memang bright
try euro made type like focal |
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no la
tis one sound like piak piak piak |
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Aug 19 2009, 09:31 PM
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what to do klip is speakers for peasant
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Aug 19 2009, 09:36 PM
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memang..i m even worse
canot even afford klips unlike taukehs-s aim at matin longan or die-audio ma |
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anyway, Oppo 83, Customer service is really excellent,
within a day, all queries answered - latest pricing S$1060~ moded or region free unit~ excluding tax of 30% - Shipping to Ipoh via SpeedPost/EMS courier costs S$90 - for tax clearance purposes, Invoice can be marked down 15-20% of S$1060 = 848 X 30%tax = S$254 that will be 1060(RP)+254(30%tax)+90(courier) =S$1404 X est 2.4 = RM3369.00 at RM3K this oppo should be group with pioneer LX71 or the coming LX72 for a fair review BD-60/, especially BD80, pioneer 51FD, 320 and LX52 depends (how you analyse) will loose to Oppo 83 by just a slight margin As Pioneer 51FD=pioneer 320, and given that scenerio, i opt for the BDP-320 as the difference is only RM400 ( you get slightly better PQ and AQ, 2 channel stereo, DVD upscale, not to mention BD-live. As the BDP-320 is equipped with 1GB SD Ram, hopefully the next couple of FW upgrades, will solve the DVD 2-3 sec change over and better load times. base on my findings my shorlisted model will either be the Pana BD60 or the BDP-320 really jialat just got to know sold-out 4units of BD60 at RM950 ( think tis is the price they deduct from the LCD package deal ) and now considering BD 320 at RM2200 FOC 2pcs BD against the BD60 at RM1100 Added on August 19, 2009, 10:53 pm QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 19 2009, 07:36 PM) once you look at all these internal cables and the RCA ports ,makes you wonder how come spend few hundred on RCa audio cables entering a RM2.00 RCA jack.... QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 19 2009, 08:11 PM) I meant the analog RCA ports to hook up to audio amp (using costly RCA cables), cos you seem to be interested in more on the analog audio side of the BDP mah. i get what you mean, i seriously think that its wrongly commented. its not uncommon as thats what ppl thinkto me everything inside the casing is perfectly calibrated and hook-up for test results, its the same as Speakers, you have beautiful, expensive, gold-plated, biding post to very expansive cross-overs, but the link to the speaker drivers is usually a "jialat" cable BUT to a lot of "Sin Kar's" they swap/alter that cable ....so the end result.... you are not getting what the manufacturers/designers want you to hear QUOTE(aiman04 @ Aug 19 2009, 08:25 PM) yes, wunderbar!!!This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 19 2009, 10:53 PM |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 19 2009, 10:42 PM) base on my findings my shorlisted model will either be the Pana BD60 or the BDP-320 really jialat just got to know sold-out 4units of BD60 at RM950 ( think tis is the price they deduct from the LCD package deal ) and now considering BD 320 at RM2200 FOC 2pcs BD against the BD60 at RM1100 |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 19 2009, 11:14 PM) looking at the internals, I really dun see how the BD320 can be worth 1100 more than the BD60.. i can only say it all boils down to the Circuit Design and components used, like Transport, Integrated Circuts, Capacitors , inductors, embedded chips etcIts Technology my fren thats what i thought too, if can get again at RM950, immediately buy liao just now my dealer want take me buy adi, cc call the other side sold out liao, he too advise me go for panny, wait for technology to be stable 1st then luk c again Added on August 19, 2009, 11:39 pmYa la hur... how come the panny so many cables running ge This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 19 2009, 11:39 PM |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 19 2009, 11:29 PM) i can only say it all boils down to the Circuit Design and components used, like Transport, Integrated Circuts, Capacitors , inductors, embedded chips etc bro.. I'm in this line of business la..apart from the main IC, the other passive components used on the circuit boards (which affect the analog portion of the player) shown in the pix doesn't look like anything special..Its Technology my fren Added on August 19, 2009, 11:49 pm QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 19 2009, 11:29 PM) Added on August 19, 2009, 11:39 pmYa la hur... how come the panny so many cables running ge the wires power the green board where the circuits are.. then you can see the 2 sets of flexi FPC cables from the green PCB going under the BD-rom drive.. This post has been edited by ar188: Aug 19 2009, 11:49 PM |
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QUOTE(Bishop @ Aug 19 2009, 01:07 PM) Can I ask where you got the pricing from? just heard a rumours from the radio when wake up this morning.I read that the previous model reduced price 80Gb to US299 but that is the same price as the new PS3 slim not cheaper. If they drop the RM900, that would be the cheapest BD player around... just want to share the info. correct me if i'm wrong... |
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how do you know old fat ps3 will be rm 900 in msia?? who told you? plz state the source dont compare price to usa
Added on August 20, 2009, 3:16 amhello i also want to know if i import a blu ray player from amazon usa do i have to pay taxes ?? This post has been edited by Riddhy: Aug 20 2009, 03:16 AM |
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I am a movie/AV geek, thought you guys already know that? Did you guys know the brand DENON originated from the company name Denki Onkyo?
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oh dear god, now 90% confirmed on BD60 liao
was thinking wat de hack, DVD upsampling no good...... but i can let my bloody yammy 3900 (Anchorbay 2010 chipset... same chip with the well renown Oppo 83) )do the upscaling ma right, also from the KLIAVS i see many BD-60 performing demo (pana booth) on 60"plasma to the biggest projector oso ok ma ... rite, As for the CD Audio if really cannot, then use hidef HDMI output, or just keep my Mc'Cormack CD Player so guess my quest for a BD player for about 2months will end today |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 20 2009, 11:49 AM) oh dear god, now 90% confirmed on BD60 liao congrats...was thinking wat de hack, DVD upsampling no good...... but i can let my bloody yammy 3900 (Anchorbay 2010 chipset... same chip with the well renown Oppo 83) )do the upscaling ma right, also from the KLIAVS i see many BD-60 performing demo (pana booth) on 60"plasma to the biggest projector oso ok ma ... rite, As for the CD Audio if really cannot, then use hidef HDMI output, or just keep my Mc'Cormack CD Player so guess my quest for a BD player for about 2months will end today |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 20 2009, 11:49 AM) oh dear god, now 90% confirmed on BD60 liao I think u r good to go. Use the old DVD player, the CD player and the new BD60 and all will be well.was thinking wat de hack, DVD upsampling no good...... but i can let my bloody yammy 3900 (Anchorbay 2010 chipset... same chip with the well renown Oppo 83) )do the upscaling ma right, also from the KLIAVS i see many BD-60 performing demo (pana booth) on 60"plasma to the biggest projector oso ok ma ... rite, As for the CD Audio if really cannot, then use hidef HDMI output, or just keep my Mc'Cormack CD Player so guess my quest for a BD player for about 2months will end today Added on August 20, 2009, 11:57 am QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 19 2009, 10:42 PM) anyway, Oppo 83, Customer service is really excellent, The prices for the Oppo are higher as compared to the rest of the players especially with the tax....within a day, all queries answered - latest pricing S$1060~ moded or region free unit~ excluding tax of 30% - Shipping to Ipoh via SpeedPost/EMS courier costs S$90 - for tax clearance purposes, Invoice can be marked down 15-20% of S$1060 = 848 X 30%tax = S$254 that will be 1060(RP)+254(30%tax)+90(courier) =S$1404 X est 2.4 = RM3369.00 at RM3K this oppo should be group with pioneer LX71 or the coming LX72 for a fair review BD-60/, especially BD80, pioneer 51FD, 320 and LX52 depends (how you analyse) will loose to Oppo 83 by just a slight margin As Pioneer 51FD=pioneer 320, and given that scenerio, i opt for the BDP-320 as the difference is only RM400 ( you get slightly better PQ and AQ, 2 channel stereo, DVD upscale, not to mention BD-live. As the BDP-320 is equipped with 1GB SD Ram, hopefully the next couple of FW upgrades, will solve the DVD 2-3 sec change over and better load times. base on my findings my shorlisted model will either be the Pana BD60 or the BDP-320 really jialat just got to know sold-out 4units of BD60 at RM950 ( think tis is the price they deduct from the LCD package deal ) and now considering BD 320 at RM2200 FOC 2pcs BD against the BD60 at RM1100 Added on August 19, 2009, 10:53 pm i get what you mean, i seriously think that its wrongly commented. its not uncommon as thats what ppl think to me everything inside the casing is perfectly calibrated and hook-up for test results, its the same as Speakers, you have beautiful, expensive, gold-plated, biding post to very expansive cross-overs, but the link to the speaker drivers is usually a "jialat" cable BUT to a lot of "Sin Kar's" they swap/alter that cable ....so the end result.... you are not getting what the manufacturers/designers want you to hear yes, wunderbar!!! This post has been edited by anfieldude: Aug 20 2009, 11:57 AM |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Aug 20 2009, 11:55 AM) I think u r good to go. Use the old DVD player, the CD player and the new BD60 and all will be well. that should have been the main option from day 1, not the pioneer route.. |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 20 2009, 11:58 AM) Thanks to all my sifu's sharing their dedicated, time, briefing, explanation, to the extent of searching for valuable infos' to suppliment their verdict, not to mention...EVEN..in the wee hours of the morninga big Thank You, Terima Kasih, hontoni arigatou gojaimas To be frank, Pioneer 51FD, 320, it is a very very good BD player, they still hold their honour as best outstanding BD player in its range (not to bring Oppo 83 at 3K+ as comparison) if its not for the Yammy 3900 ABT 2010 chip i would have gone for the Pioneer |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 20 2009, 12:21 PM) Thanks to all my sifu's sharing their dedicated, time, briefing, explanation, to the extent of searching for valuable infos' to suppliment their verdict, not to mention...EVEN..in the wee hours of the morning haha! you noticed, wee hours.. a big Thank You, Terima Kasih, hontoni arigatou gojaimas To be frank, Pioneer 51FD, 320, it is a very very good BD player, they still hold their honour as best outstanding BD player in its range (not to bring Oppo 83 at 3K+ as comparison) if its not for the Yammy 3900 ABT 2010 chip i would have gone for the Pioneer so what time your new toy? |
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QUOTE(jchong @ Aug 20 2009, 03:50 PM) ya lor, really jialat lor, mind set on BD-60 liao, wait a while 1stif really dont have and if have to buy at RM1400 (panashop) definitely not sen-Q or senhen at RM1999, then will not hesitate to take the BDP-320 sen-Q want to clear their BD-30 at RM900 any takers?? heard BD-61 coming.... any feedback bro jchong, touch down ipoh adi This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 20 2009, 07:32 PM |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 20 2009, 07:29 PM) ya lor, really jialat lor, mind set on BD-60 liao, wait a while 1st how about the other forumer here who was selling 900-1000?if really dont have and if have to buy at RM1400 (panashop) definitely not sen-Q or senhen at RM1999, then will not hesitate to take the BDP-320 sen-Q want to clear their BD-30 at RM900 any takers?? heard BD-61 coming.... any feedback bro jchong, touch down ipoh adi also what BDP were you using before considering this pioneer/panny thing? |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 20 2009, 08:29 PM) how about the other forumer here who was selling 900-1000? courtesy of bro jchong.... check for me adi (quite long name "isxxxxxxxxxx" something)also what BDP were you using before considering this pioneer/panny thing? did not own any BDP yet, only dvico 4000p and pioneer DVD DV-383 ( non Hdmi and upscale player) as for the DVD, i didnt even use component, just use s-video hook to yammy 3900, PQ very good also le |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 20 2009, 10:18 PM) courtesy of bro jchong.... check for me adi (quite long name "isxxxxxxxxxx" something) oh.. no wonder ask so many question about BDP.. did not own any BDP yet, only dvico 4000p and pioneer DVD DV-383 ( non Hdmi and upscale player) as for the DVD, i didnt even use component, just use s-video hook to yammy 3900, PQ very good also le infact getting a new 3k telly like the S10 would make more sense.. as far as PQ improvement is concern.. |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 20 2009, 10:26 PM) oh.. no wonder ask so many question about BDP.. could it be the high-end ones has better colours, more 3 dimensional, and depth, infact getting a new 3k telly like the S10 would make more sense.. as far as PQ improvement is concern.. wat i mean by depth is at a glance you really can differentiate who's in front and who's at the back |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 20 2009, 10:47 PM) could it be the high-end ones has better colours, more 3 dimensional, and depth, it could be, but the display affects the PQ more than the BDP (as far as watching blu-rays with 1080p content is concern)... so without upgrading the display then IMHO, no point to bother about comparing high end players and mid range ones.. I mean if you don't have full HD TV, why compare colors and what not when you are already compressing the resolution of the image (major reduction of PQ quality) to begin with.. wat i mean by depth is at a glance you really can differentiate who's in front and who's at the back of coz if talking about DVDs then different story.... cos other things in the DVD player circuitry like upscaling/interlacing etc comes to play) |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 20 2009, 10:56 PM) it could be, but the display affects the PQ more than the BDP (as far as watching blu-rays with 1080p content is concern)... so without upgrading the display then IMHO, no point to bother about comparing high end players and mid range ones.. I mean if you don't have full HD TV, why compare colors and what not when you are already compressing the resolution of the image (major reduction of PQ quality) to begin with.. yup i got wat you mean of coz if talking about DVDs then different story.... cos other things in the DVD player circuitry like upscaling/interlacing etc comes to play) |
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hi i want to know whats the cheapest but latest blu ray player available in msia?? the 2009 models i mean.
from US the cheapest ones from 2009 are magnavox usd 98 meijer USD 129 vizio usd 178 sharp bd22u usd 173 lg bd270 usd 182 panasonic bd 60 usd 195 pioneer 120 u usd 199 sony bds-360 usd 208 samsung bdp-1600 usd 219 these are the cheapest and latest 2009 models from good known brands from amazon are anyone of them available in MSIA except bd60? what about sharp bd-22u and lg bd270 are they here. can anyone list the current prices of 2009 models in msia?? also if i import from amazon do i have to pay taxes?? |
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IMO, chooice the one which got profile 2.0 with cheaper price will do.
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Hey moomoos, you seen this: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1137855 ?
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QUOTE(jchong @ Aug 21 2009, 05:33 PM) yeap think seen tis two days back..... that day say no bitstream, now got bitstreamobserving, observing, looks very interesting... thks |
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the ones i listed all is profile 2 except magnavox and if i import here do i have to pay taxes??
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QUOTE(Riddhy @ Aug 22 2009, 05:29 AM) Depends on your luck. By right for packages valued above RM500 can be taxed. But like I said, mandi bunga first for good luck. I didn't do that but thank God there was no tax when I bought my BD35. |
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remember that tax is on cif price inc. Freight cost. So Heavy airfreight or courier items may still kena tax even if below 500 for ex work retail pricing.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 21 2009, 11:32 PM) bro... thanks..... but dont jack me up so high la...the Mc's didn't even cross my mind ( how good can it be with that amount....c i didnt even know it exist, i knew lexicon @ USD3999 only ) even tho can afford oso, will never consider, welll my affordabel range till the OPPO 83 level nia |
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key word is can afford. Thats why i c u so up!
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Saw that at AV show....pretty cool and pretty expensive.
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bd35 you brought from amazon?
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i think everyone wont telling.. all like to keep low profile
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 23 2009, 08:20 AM) bro aiman04 so lucky, maybe he's the 1st person that got it tax free, and 1st person to play BD Not the first person to get it tax free, I bought the BD35 November last year. I used DHL at that time. No tax, no hassle whatsoever. I still remember, arrived in Subang airport around 8.00am, and in my hands around 9.30am. My first BD player was the PS3, which I still own.that time ketam also dont know whta BD is And certainly not the first to play BD lah. My first BD was Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl in July 2007, around the same time I register with LYN. At that time, rx330 was still one of the BD sifus, with others like ar188 himself, PrinceOfPersia, edvpc, corez, mpyw, megatron007and many others. Also not forgetting the legendary Sunauto as well. This post has been edited by aiman04: Aug 23 2009, 03:30 PM |
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i joined BD very late la
2008 FEB... look back about 1.5years wow it really grew fast |
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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Aug 23 2009, 03:30 PM) My first BD was Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl in July 2007 My first BD is David Foster n Friends bought at Speedo a day before I got my BDP and also a day before 2009 AV Fair. Pretty easy to remember that. |
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I bought my first blu-ray disc in March 2007. I remember becos it was the same time i bought my PS3 on the first day of launch. But my collection hardly grow like all the elites here. that time, busy collecting hd-dvd!
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Rough estimate
1 ~ March 2007 PS3 ~ terranova 2 ~ July 2007 PS3 ~ aiman04 ~ Feb 2008 BD35 ~ aiman04 3 ~ Feb 2008 ~ megatron007 4 ~ July 24th 2009 BD60 ~ arremie 5 ~ April 2009 BD60 ~ jchong 6 ~ April 2009 BD60 ~ nakata101 7 ~ June 2009 LX-52 ~ ronnt88 XX) ~ Sept 2009 1stchoice BD60, 2nd BDP-320, 3rd LX-52 ~ moomoos |
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Hi there.
Just bought bd60 few day ago. Kinda of new in this area. Bought and rent a few bd's from forummers here. Still experimenting the setting on my avr and the player. |
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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Aug 23 2009, 10:26 PM) Thanks. Definitely major improvement on PQ and AQ and its true reading in other forums that once you're in there's no turning back.The only setback is that my avr(yammy 1600) can only convert to 1080i.I'm not very good in writing the review lor. This post has been edited by maja_5365: Aug 23 2009, 10:35 PM |
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I joined the 'blu' side January this year
Got my Sony BDP-S350 from a forummer I bought my first BD even before I owned a BDP It is Transformers Bought from aiman04 bro |
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My first BDs were B2F1 Black Hawk Down, Blood Diamond & 28 Weeks Later back in Jan 2008; however, my PS3 was only purchased in Nov 2008
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Rough estimate rclxms.gif BDP ....."Family Tree" ????
ar188, PrinceOfPersia, edvpc, corez, mpyw, htkaki, sunato,Anfieldude,rthj,rx330,g5sim,WereWolf84,HornyAngMoh 1 ~ March 2007 ~ PS3 ~ terranova 2 ~ July 2007 ~ PS3 ~ aiman04 ~ Feb 2008 ~ BD35 ~ aiman04 4 ~ Nov 2008 ~ PS3 ~ geforce1999 5 ~ Jan 2009 ~ BDP-S350 ~ robinlim 6 ~ April 2009 ~ BD60 ~ jchong 7 ~ April 2009 ~ BD60 ~ nakata101 8 ~ June 2009 ~ LX-52 ~ ronnt88 9 ~ July 23rd 2009 ~ BD60 ~ arremie 10 ~ Aug 2009 ~ BD60 ~ maja_5365 11 ~ Aug 2009 ~ BD60 ~ low98944 XX) ~ Sept 2009 1stchoice BD60, 2nd BDP-320, 3rd LX-52 ~ moomoos This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 26 2009, 09:27 AM |
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Sorry if this is stated b4
Manage to try a DVD Audio disc on this Blu Player (DMP-BD60) and it plays. Because it was NOT stated on the manual etc I thought it wouldn't, but it does! |
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BD60 can play DVD right? What's so surprising if it can play DVD-A?
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QUOTE(Mov_freak @ Aug 24 2009, 12:36 AM) Sorry if this is stated b4 All if not most DVD-A have a lossy core in the DVD-Video portion of the disc (Dolby Digital 5.1 or DTS 5.1). On a player that has the hardware that can handle proper DVD-A it will play the lossless portion (96kHz/16bit or higher for all channels)Manage to try a DVD Audio disc on this Blu Player (DMP-BD60) and it plays. Because it was NOT stated on the manual etc I thought it wouldn't, but it does! |
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has anyone tried SACDs on it?
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Mitsubishi Blu-ray Player to Broadcast 2D Movies in 3D
http://gizmodo.com/292940/mitsubishi-blu+r...2d-movies-in-3d http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=422 this was posted in 2007, how come we dont see such players around?? Added on August 25, 2009, 9:17 am PS3 Slim Already Outdated by 3D Blu-ray http://news.spong.com/article/18896/PS3-Sl...d-by-3D-Blu-ray Added on August 25, 2009, 9:25 amPanasonic To Release a 3D Blu-ray Player http://www.giant-buyer.co.uk/panasonic/pan...-blu-ray-player This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 25 2009, 09:32 AM |
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with the event of upcoming 3D BD players... do they ship with 3D glasses or do we have to purchase them separately at RM500 each??
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QUOTE(azxel @ Aug 25 2009, 12:02 PM) with the event of upcoming 3D BD players... do they ship with 3D glasses or do we have to purchase them separately at RM500 each?? this was annouced a couple of years back with 3D TVs..... problem is most sources are still 2D so i guess its neva gonna hit the market anytime soon. BTW, the TVs display everything in 3D. Looks cool but you will prob need lots of Panadol beside u when u watch TV then......The glasses come with the TV itself ( perhaps player also, not too sure) |
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QUOTE(wackojacko @ Aug 25 2009, 04:21 PM) this was annouced a couple of years back with 3D TVs..... problem is most sources are still 2D so i guess its neva gonna hit the market anytime soon. BTW, the TVs display everything in 3D. Looks cool but you will prob need lots of Panadol beside u when u watch TV then...... oh... like that, they need to include a small tong for ppl to vomit after watching it too long... heheThe glasses come with the TV itself ( perhaps player also, not too sure) |
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Hello bluray enthusiasists.
What's the best blu ray player under RM1000 price range? I've been quoted a player of RM600++ but they say it will have a lagg time of 1 min to read the disc before playing it. Is this normal or should I take a look at other models? I read that pana BD-60 is quite famous around the forumners. Thanks |
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QUOTE(snowfire64 @ Aug 25 2009, 10:01 PM) Hello bluray enthusiasists. you sure??? or u refering to 2nd hand Profile 1.0 players ??What's the best blu ray player under RM1000 price range? I've been quoted a player of RM600++ but they say it will have a lagg time of 1 min to read the disc before playing it. Is this normal or should I take a look at other models? I read that pana BD-60 is quite famous around the forumners. Thanks RM1,000 couldnt get you any NEW BD players, please share if there really is, thkq This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 25 2009, 10:11 PM |
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Haha. Well I don't know the models should be Sharp I guess. I once saw a Sony model too.
But like you guys said, they are old models. So, what about this profile 1.0 ? |
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QUOTE(snowfire64 @ Aug 25 2009, 10:23 PM) Haha. Well I don't know the models should be Sharp I guess. I once saw a Sony model too. sorry lazy to typeBut like you guys said, they are old models. So, what about this profile 1.0 ? http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-9808376-1.html Added on August 25, 2009, 10:39 pm QUOTE(maja_5365 @ Aug 25 2009, 10:22 PM) you r one of the lucky ones, no more adii am sourcing for one oso This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 25 2009, 10:39 PM |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 25 2009, 10:35 PM) Heh thanks for info. I guess profile 1.0 is a no no since I have my ps3. Now need a new player to replace the ps3 as a blu ray player.But, as I said earlier, tight on the budget. So the top budget bd-player is still BD-60? |
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Well visit Sony Centre today and saw the SONY BDP-S360 Blu-ray player.
Support BD Live + All HD sound codec (include DTS MA). Sell at RM1888, good buy? ![]() This post has been edited by ngks: Aug 25 2009, 11:13 PM |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 25 2009, 10:50 PM) Heh. I'll stick to the thick one QUOTE(ngks @ Aug 25 2009, 10:55 PM) Well visit Sony Centre today and saw the SONY BDP-S360 Blu-ray player. Hm. That's the cheapest model?Support BD Live + All HD sound codec (include DTS MA). Sell at RM1888, good buy? BTW, I have a question. Does the blu ray players play part in supporting the HD sound codec? Since the thick ps3 don't support the HD sound codec, I'm opting for a stand alone BD player to solve the problem. OR, if I have an AVR that supports the HD sound codec, will it make a difference between using a ps3 with the AVR or a stand alone BD player with the AVR? |
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QUOTE(snowfire64 @ Aug 25 2009, 11:00 PM) Heh. I'll stick to the thick one cheapest model retail shop,Hm. That's the cheapest model? BTW, I have a question. Does the blu ray players play part in supporting the HD sound codec? Since the thick ps3 don't support the HD sound codec, I'm opting for a stand alone BD player to solve the problem. OR, if I have an AVR that supports the HD sound codec, will it make a difference between using a ps3 with the AVR or a stand alone BD player with the AVR? Pana BD-60 RM14xx Sony s350 RM14xx mention many times in this thread, think PS3 cant stream HD codecs .... really cant recall (sorry really dont like PS3, thats y just glance tru only... think some sifu's will reply u afterwards.. |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 25 2009, 11:14 PM) cheapest model retail shop, have to wait for PS3 slim to bitstream both HD codecs... Pana BD-60 RM14xx Sony s350 RM14xx mention many times in this thread, think PS3 cant stream HD codecs .... really cant recall (sorry really dont like PS3, thats y just glance tru only... think some sifu's will reply u afterwards.. |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 25 2009, 11:14 PM) cheapest model retail shop, The Sony S350 is selling for RM999 at the Curve Sony Centre, IIANM.Pana BD-60 RM14xx Sony s350 RM14xx mention many times in this thread, think PS3 cant stream HD codecs .... really cant recall (sorry really dont like PS3, thats y just glance tru only... think some sifu's will reply u afterwards.. |
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Ok, based on my own knowledge (but dunno correct or not)
Sony have launch the new BDP-S360, sucessor to S350, which support DTS Master Audio. But as my understanding, these BD player do not decode any surround sound, they just "bitstream" to external decoder/amplifier. Unless those expensive high-end player with built-in decoder + analog speaker out. BD player + BD disc (HD audio) + normal TV = normal stereo sound*. *Doesn't matter wat sound you choose, standard Dolby or HD audio BD player + BD disc (HD audio) + amplifier/decoder + optical cable = standard Dolby/DTS surround sound* *Optical cable can't transfer HD audio signal, bandwidth not enough. BD player + BD disc (HD audio) + amplifier/decoder + HDMI cable = HD audio sound* HD audio have many format, such as: DTS HD DTS Master Audio Dolby Digital TruHD Dolby Digital Plus (Seen it in HD DVD, not sure of Blu-ray) Uncompress LPCM (Linear PCM) Depend on the supported codec from the BD player/Amplifier/Decoder/HDMI cable version to acheive full quality. Even HDMI cable version will affect, such as ver.1.2 or ver.1.3a or blah blah blah... So make no mistake that it is so complicated to get the right sound. And I heard new firmware upgrade for PS3 can bitstream HD audio like Dolby TruHD, will confim for you guys later. |
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QUOTE(arremie @ Aug 26 2009, 12:59 AM) from rrp 2499 to 999 in less than a year soree lazy to checkmaybe can get as a second player for bedroom plus this is the only recommended player that can play all the rm48 uncle ho bd has the firmware upgarde solved the HD DTS MA issue thanks... looking for a quickie |
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QUOTE(ngks @ Aug 26 2009, 01:05 AM) And I heard new firmware upgrade for PS3 can bitstream HD audio like Dolby TruHD, will confim for you guys later. I thought I heard before that current PS3 Hardware is unable to do bitstream of HD Audio even with firmware ?This post has been edited by Ngto: Aug 26 2009, 01:28 AM |
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QUOTE(arremie @ Aug 26 2009, 12:59 AM) from rrp 2499 to 999 in less than a year Added on August 26, 2009, 1:32 am QUOTE(ngks @ Aug 26 2009, 01:05 AM) Ok, based on my own knowledge (but dunno correct or not) BDP which can support TrueHD & DTS-HDMA means they can do internal decoding larSony have launch the new BDP-S360, sucessor to S350, which support DTS Master Audio. But as my understanding, these BD player do not decode any surround sound, they just "bitstream" to external decoder/amplifier. Unless those expensive high-end player with built-in decoder + analog speaker out. just like PS3 not just high end players can do internal decoding player with analog speaker out is for those old avrs which can't decode HD-audios This post has been edited by robinlim: Aug 26 2009, 01:32 AM |
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this bdp-s350 still got bundling with BD's at that RM999.00
so it doesnt decode, but when bitstream to AVR its does HD-DTS MA right checking out, seems no 2 channel analog out too |
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QUOTE(snowfire64 @ Aug 25 2009, 11:00 PM) Heh. I'll stick to the thick one The PS3 can't bitstream HD audio to AVR, but it can decode the HD Audio first (LPCM) and then send to AVR. That means the AVR don't even need a HD audio decoder, BUT it must be able to accept the decoded LPCM HD audio sound from the PS3 via HDMI (some older AVR can't accept decoded HD Audio through HDMI). For your info, decoded HD audio and bitstream HD Audio is the same quality , both Lossless.Hm. That's the cheapest model? BTW, I have a question. Does the blu ray players play part in supporting the HD sound codec? Since the thick ps3 don't support the HD sound codec, I'm opting for a stand alone BD player to solve the problem. OR, if I have an AVR that supports the HD sound codec, will it make a difference between using a ps3 with the AVR or a stand alone BD player with the AVR? This post has been edited by Ngto: Aug 26 2009, 01:43 AM |
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Good, good, so many sifu here. Keep posting, so we can learn more about this "HD Audio" !!
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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Aug 26 2009, 01:01 AM) recommended by uncle ho's nephews my bd60 can't play uncle ho's stuff. i tried 3 different movies from different distributors all unable to load movie. can only load the intro only. s350 can read all 3 movies. anyway better off buy from amazon. can get less than rm60 per title with bulk order. ori some more. why pay rm48 for fake and lousy stuff. |
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QUOTE(ngks @ Aug 26 2009, 01:05 AM) Ok, based on my own knowledge (but dunno correct or not) Thanks for the info.Sony have launch the new BDP-S360, sucessor to S350, which support DTS Master Audio. But as my understanding, these BD player do not decode any surround sound, they just "bitstream" to external decoder/amplifier. Unless those expensive high-end player with built-in decoder + analog speaker out. BD player + BD disc (HD audio) + normal TV = normal stereo sound*. *Doesn't matter wat sound you choose, standard Dolby or HD audio BD player + BD disc (HD audio) + amplifier/decoder + optical cable = standard Dolby/DTS surround sound* *Optical cable can't transfer HD audio signal, bandwidth not enough. BD player + BD disc (HD audio) + amplifier/decoder + HDMI cable = HD audio sound* From what you have wrote, the BD player does not effect the HD audio sound regardless of using a rm900+ and rm2000+ BD players if I have an AVR (which supports HD audio codec) and a HDMI cable? |
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QUOTE(arremie @ Aug 26 2009, 05:21 AM) recommended by uncle ho's nephews wahh power wer.... i never load any DVD... neither unker ho / unker lim/ nor original my bd60 can't play uncle ho's stuff. i tried 3 different movies from different distributors all unable to load movie. can only load the intro only. s350 can read all 3 movies. anyway better off buy from amazon. can get less than rm60 per title with bulk order. ori some more. why pay rm48 for fake and lousy stuff. |
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Those are single layer BDs la, not DVD
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QUOTE(Ngto @ Aug 26 2009, 01:36 AM) The PS3 can't bitstream HD audio to AVR, but it can decode the HD Audio first (LPCM) and then send to AVR. That means the AVR don't even need a HD audio decoder, BUT it must be able to accept the decoded LPCM HD audio sound from the PS3 via HDMI (some older AVR can't accept decoded HD Audio through HDMI). For your info, decoded HD audio and bitstream HD Audio is the same quality , both Lossless. In theory they should both be the same quality, but I do perceive differences between PS3 sending LPCM HD Audio vs BD60 bitstreaming HD Audio (the latter is better sounding). Only thing I can think of is that my AVR is doing a better job decoding the HD Audio than the PS3. |
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QUOTE(jchong @ Aug 26 2009, 10:04 AM) In theory they should both be the same quality, but I do perceive differences between PS3 sending LPCM HD Audio vs BD60 bitstreaming HD Audio (the latter is better sounding). Only thing I can think of is that my AVR is doing a better job decoding the HD Audio than the PS3. that's what most of the ps3 users complaining aboutcan only send as LPCM cannot does bitstream cannot fully ustilize the avr to decode HD-audios This post has been edited by robinlim: Aug 26 2009, 11:06 AM |
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QUOTE(Ngto @ Aug 26 2009, 01:36 AM) The PS3 can't bitstream HD audio to AVR, but it can decode the HD Audio first (LPCM) and then send to AVR. That means the AVR don't even need a HD audio decoder, BUT it must be able to accept the decoded LPCM HD audio sound from the PS3 via HDMI (some older AVR can't accept decoded HD Audio through HDMI). For your info, decoded HD audio and bitstream HD Audio is the same quality , both Lossless. QUOTE(snowfire64 @ Aug 26 2009, 05:25 AM) Thanks for the info. From what you have wrote, the BD player does not effect the HD audio sound regardless of using a rm900+ and rm2000+ BD players if I have an AVR (which supports HD audio codec) and a HDMI cable? QUOTE(jchong @ Aug 26 2009, 10:04 AM) In theory they should both be the same quality, but I do perceive differences between PS3 sending LPCM HD Audio vs BD60 bitstreaming HD Audio (the latter is better sounding). Only thing I can think of is that my AVR is doing a better job decoding the HD Audio than the PS3. wou...too "theory-garised" lein layman terms, hopefully someone can shed some light PS3 send signal to AVR BD-60 oso send signal (same format) to AVR so which is better 1) a normal AVR 2) a state of the art AVR so does tis imply to all BD players that cant stream or decode HD signals internally seriously really dont undersatnd, some output PCM and some LPCM ( are this different signals) in depth anthology....so here it goes,... we take 1) BD player decode and stream hd signals thru HDMI to AVR 2) BD player decode PCM /LPCM stream thru HDMI to AVR( this possible or am i illusionising (eg sony BDP-S350 cant decode DTS-HD MA but uses AVR to decode) 3) BD player decode multi analog out to multi channel input of AVR 4) BD player pass thru multi analog and OLD AVR w/o HDMIdo the processing comparing 1 to 2 and also 3 to 4 which would better and oso 1 and 4 thanks, hope i am not too long winded, think many forumers who dont know how to ask, would just like to know which is better os is it the same thanks banyak2 This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 26 2009, 10:33 AM |
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doesn't matter decoding or bitstreaming....bd60 whoop ps3's a$$. so just leave it at that
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QUOTE(arremie @ Aug 26 2009, 05:21 AM) recommended by uncle ho's nephews i see...my bd60 can't play uncle ho's stuff. i tried 3 different movies from different distributors all unable to load movie. can only load the intro only. s350 can read all 3 movies. anyway better off buy from amazon. can get less than rm60 per title with bulk order. ori some more. why pay rm48 for fake and lousy stuff. so you go some uncle ho BD la? come, borrow some for me to test. curious about the quality. i cannot get RM60 per title from amazon lo new title movie all above rm80 Added on August 26, 2009, 10:45 am QUOTE(robinlim @ Aug 26 2009, 10:11 AM) that's what most of the ps3 users complaining about ps3 cannot bitstreamcan only bitstream cannot fully ustilize the avr to decode HD-audios This post has been edited by maskedchan: Aug 26 2009, 10:45 AM |
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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Aug 26 2009, 10:44 AM) i dont have. as i said my bd60 cant play those so no point for me to buy. the 3 that i tried already returned to the nephew and exchange with dvd instead. uncle ho's bd only 25gb no matter what the movie is. |
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QUOTE(arremie @ Aug 26 2009, 10:34 AM) between the 2, BD-60 or PS3, doesn't matter if your TV can't display all the data from the BD's 1080p signal.. so the advise is upgrade Tv before we talk about the minute differences between BD players.. |
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I will try to answer this as simple as I can put it.
1stly, audio stream decoding. Decoding of the Audio codecs can be either done in the BD player or the AVR. After decoding the audio stream is in LPCM (Liner PCM, all channels have the same bits). The older PS3s hardware did not allow it to bitstream the raw lossless codecs. However, it had enough processing power to decode it to LPCM and send out the lossless data to the AVR. However, the general consensus is that possible the equalization that it carries out is not as good as the equalization that is done by the AVR during decoding. This is still being debated. One of the areas that are obvious is that for Dolby streams there is normally a dialogue normalization, among others. Normally, BD players can decode all the streams and send out LPCM (comparable to PS3) if they have enuf processing power. The DTSHDMA that seems to require the most processing is the stream that if any the BD player cannot normally decode. However, all standalone BD players out there can bitstream the raw codecs for your AVR to decode. Most newer BD players, can decode all streams and send out LPCM or they can bitstream. Mostly, all BD players that have analogue outs can decode all the streams and send out the individiual channels to the AVR. The only problem with this is how the bass management is handled. Some BDs have the ability to adjust this, some will not. To explain the differences between a high end AVR and mid range AVR, in most cases the higher end AVR usually has more power thus making it easier to drive your speakers. Also normally, the high end AVRs mostly always have multi point room correction. This is an important function of an AVR (Multi EQ vs Multi EQ XT). So after all this explanation, which is better? This is subjective. It depends on your setup, your budget and your ears. Some people do not hear the differences lossless and lossy. Some swear there are no differences between decoding in the player and decoding in the AVR. And some say that room correction is rubbish. Audio is very subjective. Video has standards defined, unfortunately audio is not so clearly defined. My suggestion is, examine your setup and your budget and your needs and buy accordingly. This post has been edited by anfieldude: Aug 26 2009, 10:56 AM |
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QUOTE(arremie @ Aug 26 2009, 05:21 AM) recommended by uncle ho's nephews to be frank now ori BD from amazon est RM60 vs RM40-50 unc ho's (no effect)my bd60 can't play uncle ho's stuff. i tried 3 different movies from different distributors all unable to load movie. can only load the intro only. s350 can read all 3 movies. anyway better off buy from amazon. can get less than rm60 per title with bulk order. ori some more. why pay rm48 for fake and lousy stuff. but for majority story will twist when unc's ho bd come falling to RM20 and below |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 26 2009, 11:02 AM) to be frank now ori BD from amazon est RM60 vs RM40-50 unc ho's (no effect) but for majority story will twist when unc's ho bd come falling to RM20 and below Alas, at RM48 a pop for "black" BD disc, I much prefer going "straight" with ori only.....a bit pain pain for my wallet but worth it |
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But for JAV BDs, I would take uncle Ho's over origin, since it is stereo anyway.
Plus we will have hard time importing the origin not to mention bloody expensive. |
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QUOTE(richard912 @ Aug 26 2009, 11:18 AM) Alas, at RM48 a pop for "black" BD disc, I much prefer going "straight" with ori only.....a bit pain pain for my wallet but worth it |
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one more stupid question
i see some BD players alow to to calibrate spk level, what are those for??? isnt spk level being calibrated on AVR's or simply means those BD players can be connected to 5.1/6.1/7.1 Power amps direct, (looks stupid right w/o the volume control) or maybe those bd outputs are variable giving full volume controls on remote>> |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 26 2009, 11:34 AM) one more stupid question calibrate speaker level for the analog out RCA ports? or at HDMI level?i see some BD players alow to to calibrate spk level, what are those for??? isnt spk level being calibrated on AVR's or simply means those BD players can be connected to 5.1/6.1/7.1 Power amps direct, (looks stupid right w/o the volume control) or maybe those bd outputs are variable giving full volume controls on remote>> |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 26 2009, 11:34 AM) one more stupid question If you are refering to the volume buttons found on the BDP remote control, they are meant for use if you have a "compatible" AVR i.e. Panny BDP with Panny AVR, Sammy with Sammy, Sony with Sony....i see some BD players alow to to calibrate spk level, what are those for??? isnt spk level being calibrated on AVR's or simply means those BD players can be connected to 5.1/6.1/7.1 Power amps direct, (looks stupid right w/o the volume control) or maybe those bd outputs are variable giving full volume controls on remote>> |
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Wow. A lot of informations here from last night post.
I guess it is still the best to buy a stand alone player rather than using ps3 for maximum performance. Thank you! |
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just like some dedicate cd players they have a fixed stereo as well as variable out,
you can really use the CD as a pre... connect direct to a power and use the CD remote to control the volume some uses this to match low (volts) input integrated or pre/power amps sorry this is under hi-fidelity Added on August 26, 2009, 12:02 pm QUOTE(snowfire64 @ Aug 26 2009, 11:55 AM) Wow. A lot of informations here from last night post. glad its of help to you.. heheI guess it is still the best to buy a stand alone player rather than using ps3 for maximum performance. Thank you! This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 26 2009, 12:02 PM |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 26 2009, 11:34 AM) one more stupid question There is a case where some AVRs do not do any bass management and room correction for analogue inputs. So this speaker level calibration needs be done in the BD player.i see some BD players alow to to calibrate spk level, what are those for??? isnt spk level being calibrated on AVR's or simply means those BD players can be connected to 5.1/6.1/7.1 Power amps direct, (looks stupid right w/o the volume control) or maybe those bd outputs are variable giving full volume controls on remote>> No, it is not advisable to send the 5.1/7.1 out directly to a power amp. It shd be sent to a pre amp that has protective circuits in place to not send too high levels to the amps that could in turn damage your speakers. If u direct a 5.1/7.1 out from a BD player to a power amp it is at full volume control then u can damage your speakers. Some power amps have volume controls and clipping protection for overcurrent, but still it is a big risk to take. |
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QUOTE(richard912 @ Aug 26 2009, 11:18 AM) Alas, at RM48 a pop for "black" BD disc, I much prefer going "straight" with ori only.....a bit pain pain for my wallet but worth it What are the 2 titles you tried? |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Aug 26 2009, 12:03 PM) There is a case where some AVRs do not do any bass management and room correction for analogue inputs. So this speaker level calibration needs be done in the BD player. thanks a millionNo, it is not advisable to send the 5.1/7.1 out directly to a power amp. It shd be sent to a pre amp that has protective circuits in place to not send too high levels to the amps that could in turn damage your speakers. If u direct a 5.1/7.1 out from a BD player to a power amp it is at full volume control then u can damage your speakers. Some power amps have volume controls and clipping protection for overcurrent, but still it is a big risk to take. |
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QUOTE(arremie @ Aug 26 2009, 12:12 PM) Does it has any HD audio or just core DD and DTS only. That's all I wanted to know when I get the black disc the seller says its a direct copy from the ORI stuff, but I found a lot of tilles like MJ's Number Ones and Moonwalker available at Uncle Ho's shop which I know for a fact were neva released on BD, so I have my doubts on paying so much for fake stuff laWhat are the 2 titles you tried? |
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QUOTE(wackojacko @ Aug 26 2009, 12:39 PM) the seller says its a direct copy from the ORI stuff, but I found a lot of tilles like MJ's Number Ones and Moonwalker available at Uncle Ho's shop which I know for a fact were neva released on BD, so I have my doubts on paying so much for fake stuff la never trust whatever the nephew said...need to confirm for urself |
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QUOTE(arremie @ Aug 26 2009, 12:12 PM) Does it has any HD audio or just core DD and DTS only. That's all I wanted to know when I get the black disc Uncle Ho's Patriot Games and Clear and Present Danger. Alas, sound DTS only. Click on "extra features" on the menu, nothing happens What are the 2 titles you tried? |
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Guys, I've got a noob question.
What are Uncle Ho/Uncle Lim BDs? I got the idea that they are non-ori, but if they are ripped from an ori BD and burned onto a BD as well, how do they differ in terms of quality? This post has been edited by niveksedroul: Aug 26 2009, 04:17 PM |
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we do not condone piracy. go buy original.
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QUOTE(arremie @ Aug 26 2009, 04:13 PM) I have to admit I did buy a few real dual-layered DVDs many years ago, long before BD. Those were exact copy of the original, so at least I got the same quality of the original (except maybe disc quality itself). When I bring home I check the disc size in my laptop, if it's lower than 4.3GB then I return it back. These pirated BD are not even close to original in quality, much worse, being compressed into BD25, and not that cheap to begin with. Heck, I don't even dare to buy those local released original BDs, even with the B2G1 offer. No more pirated discs for me. |
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New PS3 Slim can bitstream. I'm holding back on the BD60 purchase until I read the reviews for the slim...
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And don't forget it will load those BDs faster than any standalone BD player. Good for impatient people like me.
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Aug 26 2009, 05:00 PM) And don't forget it will load those BDs faster than any standalone BD player. Good for impatient people like me. That's true. PQ is excellent as well, those who say their standalone BD player looked better (including myself And with bitstream there's no comparison anymore, because whatever player you have it's the AV receiver that will be doing the job, not the player. |
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Aug 26 2009, 05:13 PM) Still contemplating lah...so many choices, but so limited $$$ depends on whether playonhd meed your expectation..1 - keep playonhd and buy BD60 2 - keep playonhd and buy PS3 Slim 3 - sell playonhd and built dedicated HTPC Anjua? anyway I got another solution that may fit your needs and wallet.. but will discuss with you next month la.. |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 26 2009, 05:24 PM) depends on whether playonhd meed your expectation.. Cilakak faster PM me and share share lah...dun keep me in suspense... anyway I got another solution that may fit your needs and wallet.. but will discuss with you next month la.. |
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Aug 26 2009, 05:13 PM) Still contemplating lah...so many choices, but so limited $$$ bro... i thought you already purchased either bd-60 or s3501 - keep playonhd and buy BD60 2 - keep playonhd and buy PS3 Slim 3 - sell playonhd and built dedicated HTPC Anjua? so you're like me still deciding.... welcome to the boat... so how many of us still deciding which PLAYER to buy??? me make up my mind liao and will definitely get one b4 sept 09 |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 26 2009, 05:29 PM) bro... i thought you already purchased either bd-60 or s350 5more days to go..so you're like me still deciding.... welcome to the boat... so how many of us still deciding which PLAYER to buy??? me make up my mind liao and will definitely get one b4 sept 09 are you sure you can do it? |
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Aug 26 2009, 05:00 PM) And don't forget it will load those BDs faster than any standalone BD player. Good for impatient people like me. Some potential bad news. Some indications of someone who has made comparisons in the US indicate that it is somewhat slower than the old PS3. Pretty much slower. It is pretty much in the BD60 range...PM me if u need the link. I don't have permission to link the test results and load times. |
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if really 5more days good lor, might be getting s350 from curve.. hehe
Added on August 26, 2009, 5:52 pm QUOTE(anfieldude @ Aug 26 2009, 05:38 PM) Some potential bad news. Some indications of someone who has made comparisons in the US indicate that it is somewhat slower than the old PS3. Pretty much slower. It is pretty much in the BD60 range...PM me if u need the link. I don't have permission to link the test results and load times. ya that guy, he's good and very neutral Added on August 26, 2009, 5:56 pmhmm.... with the arrival of so many new models he still rank the BDP-51FD at the all time No2 spot based on price factor its the NO 1 BD player This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 26 2009, 05:58 PM |
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guys.. sorry to borrow this thread but..
in preparation of funds for my new sub I'm thinking of letting go my Pioneer LX-52 which i bought in June 2008. I'm letting it go for a min of RM2k to fellow LYN members.. of coz if there r multiple bidders, will let go to highest bidder la For those staying in iPoh / KL, I'm going to KL this weekend so can pass to u guys then. Thanks |
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Aug 26 2009, 04:55 PM) New PS3 Slim can bitstream. I'm holding back on the BD60 purchase until I read the reviews for the slim... by that you mean BitStream DTS-HD or Dolby TrueHD, right? Cos' I thought the PS3 can already Bitstream.. but of course only (to the receiver to decode) DTS and Dolby Digital?Dang... sometimes, the more I read about things, the more I'm confused. |
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QUOTE(azxel @ Aug 26 2009, 07:10 PM) by that you mean BitStream DTS-HD or Dolby TrueHD, right? Cos' I thought the PS3 can already Bitstream.. but of course only (to the receiver to decode) DTS and Dolby Digital? yes, new PS3 slim can bistream DTS-HD or Dolby TrueHDDang... sometimes, the more I read about things, the more I'm confused. fat ps3 cannot bistream DTS-HD or Dolby TrueHD hope this can clear your confusing |
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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Aug 26 2009, 07:12 PM) yes, new PS3 slim can bistream DTS-HD or Dolby TrueHD this is on HDMI, right..?fat ps3 cannot bistream DTS-HD or Dolby TrueHD hope this can clear your confusing yea btw... is there a splitter or something that we can plug the PS3 into and then split into 2 HDMI cables, one to the TV and another to the HTS? |
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 26 2009, 05:45 PM) if really 5more days good lor, might be getting s350 from curve.. hehe moomos,Added on August 26, 2009, 5:52 pm ya that guy, he's good and very neutral Added on August 26, 2009, 5:56 pmhmm.... with the arrival of so many new models he still rank the BDP-51FD at the all time No2 spot based on price factor its the NO 1 BD player Its important that you see all the rankings, if you need dvd upscaling then the ranking is different. The ranking u r talking abt is for Feature and Audio. It is important to choose a BD player based on what u want it to do. My opinion is that if u r only looking to playback BD and are not concerned of speed and additional features then, the Panny BD60 is sufficient. Of course if the JVC XV-BP1 is available and is in the same price range, I would recommend that as well (just need to iron out reliability, basically it is a improved clone of a LG) If u need to play games and looking for an all in all then get the PS3 slim. If u want to use it for DVD-A, SACD, need a host of tweaking features for PQ, need analogue outs and all, consider the Oppo. |
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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Aug 26 2009, 07:09 PM) guys.. sorry to borrow this thread but.. Aik,wanna let go yr Pioneer LX-52 so fast liao.No good kah ?in preparation of funds for my new sub I'm thinking of letting go my Pioneer LX-52 which i bought in June 2008. I'm letting it go for a min of RM2k to fellow LYN members.. of coz if there r multiple bidders, will let go to highest bidder la For those staying in iPoh / KL, I'm going to KL this weekend so can pass to u guys then. Thanks |
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QUOTE(jchong @ Aug 26 2009, 10:04 AM) In theory they should both be the same quality, but I do perceive differences between PS3 sending LPCM HD Audio vs BD60 bitstreaming HD Audio (the latter is better sounding). Only thing I can think of is that my AVR is doing a better job decoding the HD Audio than the PS3. It's not the decoding. It's the post processing effects by the AVR AFTER decoding.Even the PS3 can increase the volume before sending to the AVR if I am not mistaken. This post has been edited by Ngto: Aug 26 2009, 09:16 PM |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Aug 26 2009, 05:38 PM) Some potential bad news. Some indications of someone who has made comparisons in the US indicate that it is somewhat slower than the old PS3. Pretty much slower. It is pretty much in the BD60 range...PM me if u need the link. I don't have permission to link the test results and load times. Really? That is bad news. Shame, thought it will make a comeback as one of the best BD players.Added on August 26, 2009, 9:23 pm QUOTE(Ngto @ Aug 26 2009, 09:13 PM) It's not the decoding. It's the post processing effects by the AVR AFTER decoding. After decoding by the AVR you'll get the same PCM that the PS3 sends out. If this post processing effects really exists, it should also apply to the PCM from PS3.Even the PS3 can increase the volume before sending to the AVR if I am not mistaken. I still believe it's the decoding process that gives the difference. PS3 uses software method while the AVR has a dedicated chip, hardware method. Plus the elimination of jitter effects by doing bitstream. This post has been edited by aiman04: Aug 26 2009, 09:23 PM |
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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Aug 26 2009, 09:16 PM) Really? That is bad news. Shame, thought it will make a comeback as one of the best BD players. Some AVR apply post processing after decoding for better sound. But they might not take the chance with LPCM input probably because post processing might already be applied by the source and if they process the sound further they might be overdoing itAdded on August 26, 2009, 9:23 pm After decoding by the AVR you'll get the same PCM that the PS3 sends out. If this post processing effects really exists, it should also apply to the PCM from PS3. I still believe it's the decoding process that gives the difference. PS3 uses software method while the AVR has a dedicated chip, hardware method. Plus the elimination of jitter effects by doing bitstream. This post has been edited by Ngto: Aug 26 2009, 09:37 PM |
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Foosh...old sub wanna sell or not?
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I thought someone mentioned before Sony (The Curve ) selling it for RM999/- ?
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wah... now so cheap ah.. aiks..like that i pull back my post.. sorry.
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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Aug 26 2009, 08:09 PM) guys.. sorry to borrow this thread but.. Bro,in preparation of funds for my new sub I'm thinking of letting go my Pioneer LX-52 which i bought in June 2008. I'm letting it go for a min of RM2k to fellow LYN members.. of coz if there r multiple bidders, will let go to highest bidder la For those staying in iPoh / KL, I'm going to KL this weekend so can pass to u guys then. Thanks You really letting go all your items eh for your new subbie. BD player, Velo 12q sub, whats next? Your Sammy 950? Lol.. I think you quite decided to go with the submersive dy.. I better stay away from you if not i also kena the poison haha |
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Aug 26 2009, 09:31 PM) Sub for sale too Added on August 26, 2009, 9:58 pm QUOTE(hsiengloong @ Aug 26 2009, 09:53 PM) Bro, Shh... I haven't decided on which sub yet You really letting go all your items eh for your new subbie. BD player, Velo 12q sub, whats next? Your Sammy 950? Lol.. I think you quite decided to go with the submersive dy.. I better stay away from you if not i also kena the poison haha This post has been edited by ronnt88: Aug 26 2009, 09:58 PM |
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Let your wifey decide for you since all of your choice also RM3k sub haha..
Anyway, i'm waiting for a PM from a forummer. He got a 15" monster to intro to me.. You might be interested also Damn lar all this poison.. |
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sibeh elite pepur all here...I think I should start to stay away from this Home Entertainment sub-forum...
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Aug 26 2009, 10:36 PM) Only the elite will be poisoned, for peasant like me, won't kena poison - cause no moola to spend also. On this I agree with u totally! Only elite get poisoned. Peasant like me only get to dool & dream. |
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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Aug 26 2009, 07:09 PM) guys.. sorry to borrow this thread but.. btw its june 2009 then its a deal...in preparation of funds for my new sub I'm thinking of letting go my Pioneer LX-52 which i bought in June 2008. I'm letting it go for a min of RM2k to fellow LYN members.. of coz if there r multiple bidders, will let go to highest bidder la For those staying in iPoh / KL, I'm going to KL this weekend so can pass to u guys then. Thanks local warranty right?? confirmed your offer.... let me know if i'm the lucky one at the stipulated price.. thanks QUOTE(Ngto @ Aug 26 2009, 09:39 PM) shud go there b4 it runs out of stock.me thought of going Ikea for bkfst this 30th, then drop by to curve and collect the BDP-S350, do some shopping round Power Ikano, Ikea, courts, Tesco, afternoon, maybe drop by Damansara for the RM10 durian fest... later Wan Utama shopping center then back to Ipoh.... hehe well that's my plan, and suddenly comes Bro ronnt88, with the LX-52 offer. This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 26 2009, 10:56 PM |
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really good price the s350. thinking of getting 2nd bdp but then maybe should go with new ps3 instead if the price is really 1299 with sony malaysia warranty. at least can play some games
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QUOTE(arremie @ Aug 26 2009, 10:58 PM) really good price the s350. thinking of getting 2nd bdp but then maybe should go with new ps3 instead if the price is really 1299 with sony malaysia warranty. at least can play some games ya s350 @ RM999.00 is damn cheap... guess shud better the BD-60 for DVD playback |
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QUOTE(arremie @ Aug 26 2009, 11:10 PM) s350 on par with bd60 for pq. not sure about sq. should be about the same. anyway s350 can't decode dts-ma only bitstream. bd60 can decode everything. whether sq are the same is not an issue as most of us are using avr to do decodingso s350 can't decode dts-ma only bitstream shd not be an issue also |
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QUOTE(arremie @ Aug 26 2009, 11:10 PM) s350 on par with bd60 for pq. not sure about sq. should be about the same. anyway s350 can't decode dts-ma only bitstream. bd60 can decode everything. like they say 350 bitstream.... AVR does the HD-DTS MA lor hehenow my Faith.....let god decide if cannot get the LX-52 then will settle for S350, save RM1k le... hehe hehe |
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QUOTE(robinlim @ Aug 26 2009, 11:18 PM) whether sq are the same is not an issue as most of us are using avr to do decoding not an issue at all unless u got non hd decoding amp so s350 can't decode dts-ma only bitstream shd not be an issue also QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 26 2009, 11:21 PM) yup that's right. can still play bd after finishing a mug of milo and a bowl of maggi and a trip to toilet |
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S350 and even S360 cannot properly deinterlace 1080i contents properly but BD60 can. Perhaps sifu Andfieldude can shed more light here...
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taukeh mumu u still duno which BDP to buy ar?
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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Aug 26 2009, 11:34 PM) confirm liao ma by 30th Aug 2009, (before Harga Beras Jatuh)my faith is in God's hand, its either LX-52 OR S350 if S350 sold out then BDP-320 This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 26 2009, 11:45 PM |
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And now even more confused, right?
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Is PS3 good to play blueray ?
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 26 2009, 10:52 PM) btw its june 2009 then its a deal... oops... ya, of coz it's june 2009 la... LX-52 only launched in June 09 local warranty right?? confirmed your offer.... let me know if i'm the lucky one at the stipulated price.. thanks shud go there b4 it runs out of stock. me thought of going Ikea for bkfst this 30th, then drop by to curve and collect the BDP-S350, do some shopping round Power Ikano, Ikea, courts, Tesco, afternoon, maybe drop by Damansara for the RM10 durian fest... later Wan Utama shopping center then back to Ipoh.... hehe well that's my plan, and suddenly comes Bro ronnt88, with the LX-52 offer. U r the only bidder rite now, I haven't post on garage sales yet. So u can confirm the said price by laying down a little deposit la. Have to practice this coz i just recently got 747 for my canton sub only let me know |
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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Aug 27 2009, 12:17 AM) oops... ya, of coz it's june 2009 la... LX-52 only launched in June 09 dah pm you U r the only bidder rite now, I haven't post on garage sales yet. So u can confirm the said price by laying down a little deposit la. Have to practice this coz i just recently got 747 for my canton sub only let me know Added on August 27, 2009, 12:37 am QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 27 2009, 12:21 AM) please check a/cthanks y these ppl like that one r..??? a deal is a deal ma.... i confirmed our dealings, see see i got other better offers oso, i still wait for your reply 1st. thanks anyway This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 27 2009, 12:41 AM |
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Saw a JVC blu ray player just now at Harvey Norman.
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Better than panasonic BD60? Price reasonable?
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 27 2009, 12:21 AM) dah pm you ya.. some ppl like that wan.. & it was even a guy i sincerely welcomed to my home as a fren Added on August 27, 2009, 12:37 am please check a/c thanks y these ppl like that one r..??? a deal is a deal ma.... i confirmed our dealings, see see i got other better offers oso, i still wait for your reply 1st. thanks anyway anyways..... great dealing with u & thanks for helping me to get 1 step closer to my dream sub |
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so how much did giz estimate the cost of the ps3 slim to be?
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So, Moomoos finally bought a BDP ar? From Ron's? Congrats! Welcome to the BLU!
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rontt taukeh upgrade to simi player? fuyoo
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QUOTE(jchong @ Aug 26 2009, 11:26 PM) What kind of post processing effects are being done? First time I'm reading about this. Got any link with more info? A very simple example is the sound volume can be upped a notch or two. Many people percive a louder sound as better. Up your PS3 sound volume before you send the LPCM to the AVR as an experiment, see if it sounds better or worse. |
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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Aug 27 2009, 01:34 AM) think shud be around RM1400QUOTE(aiman04 @ Aug 27 2009, 07:32 AM) thanks, ya anyway confirmed...its either a S350 or BD60 this 30th adi ..... c c rons's posts' came lorstepping in bluworld er... QUOTE(aiman04 @ Aug 27 2009, 08:52 AM) That's not really downgrading la, PS3 is not bad at all as a BDP. i 2nd that But you must be upgrading something else, a submarine? QUOTE(Ngto @ Aug 27 2009, 08:55 AM) A very simple example is the sound volume can be upped a notch or two. Many people percive a louder sound as better. Up your PS3 sound volume before you send the LPCM to the AVR as an experiment, see if it sounds better or worse. means PS3 have volume control feature??? if have, theoritically is to set the volume to "max" |
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nothing is coming back with me this weekend la.. auditioning phase only
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Lightning strike your chest, please donate all your toys to me.
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Aug 27 2009, 09:38 AM
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I obtained permission from the owner of the other thread to link the results. Pls see hyperlink below. AVS Forum Blu Ray Players synthetic and subjective results threa enjoy. Glad ron sorted out the BD player, although I think it is a damned good player! |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Aug 27 2009, 09:38 AM) I obtained permission from the owner of the other thread to link the results. Pls see hyperlink below. bro anfield, i had to shave some off to get something new in.... had 2 BD players so 1 had to go .. i do some gaming sometimes so... have to say bye bye to my beloved pioneer AVS Forum Blu Ray Players synthetic and subjective results threa enjoy. Glad ron sorted out the BD player, although I think it is a damned good player! Added on August 27, 2009, 9:41 am QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 27 2009, 09:38 AM) woi woi woi.... RM3k lar. shhhh.... This post has been edited by ronnt88: Aug 27 2009, 09:41 AM |
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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Aug 27 2009, 09:40 AM) bro anfield, i had to shave some off to get something new in.... had 2 BD players so 1 had to go .. i do some gaming sometimes so... have to say bye bye to my beloved pioneer so who buying it?Added on August 27, 2009, 9:41 am woi woi woi.... RM3k lar. shhhh.... maybe RX offer 1/2 price (as usual) |
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Foosh.....got love story one...
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Aug 27 2009, 09:47 AM
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ar188, check your PM please.
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This thread is amazing, just finished reading one page and another page come out... so fast...
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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Aug 26 2009, 04:46 PM) I have to admit I did buy a few real dual-layered DVDs many years ago, long before BD. Those were exact copy of the original, so at least I got the same quality of the original (except maybe disc quality itself). When I bring home I check the disc size in my laptop, if it's lower than 4.3GB then I return it back. Was reading your post on this... Just curious, if there is exact copy of the original BD on BD25 for RM14 and BD50 for RM40 respectively to start up with, depend on the original BD without being compressed , will you go for it? And the price will be dropping further in the near future for sure as the original BD will be dropping as well...These pirated BD are not even close to original in quality, much worse, being compressed into BD25, and not that cheap to begin with. Heck, I don't even dare to buy those local released original BDs, even with the B2G1 offer. No more pirated discs for me. |
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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Aug 27 2009, 10:31 AM) nothing is coming back with me this weekend la.. auditioning phase only Whahaha i'll try my best (uncle as well) to covince u this weekend to get stg back so that u wont have to poison me with your other dream sub unless lightning strikes (my chest) & i fall in love at 1st sight |
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Kopitiam chat what you espect?
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QUOTE(azxel @ Aug 26 2009, 07:23 PM) this is on HDMI, right..? Yes, there is HDMI spliter around. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=sear...s=hdmi+splitteryea btw... is there a splitter or something that we can plug the PS3 into and then split into 2 HDMI cables, one to the TV and another to the HTS? I'm using this ![]() |
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QUOTE(geforce1999 @ Aug 27 2009, 10:02 AM) Yes, there is HDMI spliter around. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=sear...s=hdmi+splitter Why need to split? If your receiver has HDMI input, sure got HDMI output as well.I'm using this ![]() Added on August 27, 2009, 10:14 am QUOTE(geforce1999 @ Aug 27 2009, 09:59 AM) Was reading your post on this... Just curious, if there is exact copy of the original BD on BD25 for RM14 and BD50 for RM40 respectively to start up with, depend on the original BD without being compressed , will you go for it? And the price will be dropping further in the near future for sure as the original BD will be dropping as well... I don't think there will be exact copies, even DVDs now no exact copies anymore. But even if there is, I still won't buy, I just don't buy pirate stuffs since I started working. That story was when I was still a student. This post has been edited by aiman04: Aug 27 2009, 10:14 AM |
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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Aug 27 2009, 10:08 AM) Why need to split? If your receiver has HDMI input, sure got HDMI output as well. Yes, my Yammy have HDMI 4 in 1 out but I need to output to both my LCD and projector so I use this spliter for that. QUOTE I don't think there will be exact copies, even DVDs now no exact copies anymore. But even if there is, I still won't buy, I just don't buy pirate stuffs since I started working. That story was when I was still a student. It is rare but they exist. Anyway you are a few ppl that I know that can resist the temptation. Good! |
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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Aug 27 2009, 09:31 AM) nothing is coming back with me this weekend la.. auditioning phase only Yeah, can't bring back anything from Seremban since SVS stock also not yet arrive. Unless u hijack htkaki's PC12+ unless lightning strikes (my chest) & i fall in love at 1st sight |
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QUOTE(geforce1999 @ Aug 27 2009, 10:23 AM) Yes, my Yammy have HDMI 4 in 1 out but I need to output to both my LCD and projector so I use this spliter for that. Oh, I see. Got 2 displays in 1 setup. It is rare but they exist. Anyway you are a few ppl that I know that can resist the temptation. Good! Now working, no excuse anymore. I don't even download MKVs now. How to resist temptation? Easy, I don't go look for it. In fact, I have no idea where to find pirated DVDs now, never even go to pasar malam. |
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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Aug 27 2009, 11:34 AM) Oh, I see. Got 2 displays in 1 setup. Now dont need to go pasar malam. Can order online also Now working, no excuse anymore. I don't even download MKVs now. How to resist temptation? Easy, I don't go look for it. In fact, I have no idea where to find pirated DVDs now, never even go to pasar malam. Damn canggih |
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QUOTE(geforce1999 @ Aug 27 2009, 10:23 AM) Yes, my Yammy have HDMI 4 in 1 out but I need to output to both my LCD and projector so I use this spliter for that. Watch out for HDMI splitters. Make sure you get proper branded ones and better to be powered splitters. A lot of the cheap splitters cause a lot of colour space problems and change the signals quite a bit. I would suggest getting a proper Gefen splitter. Minimum shd be Monoprice powered splitter. It is rare but they exist. Anyway you are a few ppl that I know that can resist the temptation. Good! Better yet, get an AVR with dual HDMI out.... |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Aug 27 2009, 10:54 AM) Watch out for HDMI splitters. Make sure you get proper branded ones and better to be powered splitters. A lot of the cheap splitters cause a lot of colour space problems and change the signals quite a bit. I would suggest getting a proper Gefen splitter. Minimum shd be Monoprice powered splitter. Yes, using that spliter will need some trickQUOTE I have a better solution, use the existing ARV on projector only for the new HT room, and let the LCD for kids to watch cartoons and TV programs |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 27 2009, 09:36 AM) ya thats' what i meant... audition in KL syok liao ... order... then shipping in from Overseas... QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Aug 27 2009, 09:40 AM) bro anfield, i had to shave some off to get something new in.... had 2 BD players so 1 had to go .. i do some gaming sometimes so... have to say bye bye to my beloved pioneer LX-72 or LX-91 perhaps.. Added on August 27, 2009, 9:41 am woi woi woi.... RM3k lar. shhhh.... |
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Hehe.. No la. If can afford these no need to sell current wan 2 buy sub d la
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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Aug 27 2009, 01:49 PM) you cant afford... wei... how did you manage get the 52 le... right as now, you have 2 sets and more interest in games ma, so the LX-52 white elephant la then later syok that time, LX-72, LX92 Added on August 27, 2009, 3:13 pmme same too, now got LX-52 later i sell my CD player oso hehe This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 27 2009, 03:13 PM |
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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Aug 27 2009, 01:34 AM) Many shops are taking pre-order at RM1250 for the SG set, local MY set not announced yet, but shld be prices similarly.Go to the garage sales section under games. Added on August 27, 2009, 11:59 pm QUOTE(richard912 @ Aug 26 2009, 01:41 PM) Uncle Ho's Patriot Games and Clear and Present Danger. Alas, sound DTS only. Click on "extra features" on the menu, nothing happens Am curious, how is the PQ? Real 1080p from ori BD, or simply DVD Dual Layer rips?Added on August 28, 2009, 12:16 am QUOTE(Ngto @ Aug 26 2009, 01:20 AM) I thought I heard before that current PS3 Hardware is unable to do bitstream of HD Audio even with firmware ? You are right, thats the limitation of the HDMI chip in the thick PS3. No firmware is able to upgrade it to bitstream any HD Audio codecs.But i am ok with it LPCM to my AVR, only not seeing the TrueHD or DTSMA button light up. To me the LPCM still sounds nicer than regular flavored DD5.1 or DTS. This post has been edited by Poadster: Aug 28 2009, 12:16 AM |
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RM1250 for the new Slim PS3 is very good price. Seriously I'll say this again, for those who haven't own any BDP or PS3 this is the best solution. By the way, this new Slim PS3 can be plugged to any power outlet in the world, the PSU supports 100-240V at 50-60Hz. The only factor to consider now is the BD region coding, no more worries about getting a step-up/down transformers.
About the pirated BDs, they're all BD25. So unless the size of the original movie was equal or smaller than that, they have re-encoded the movie to lower bitrate even even though still 1080p (just like the MKV rips). Details will be lost, two pixels side by side, blue and green may just appear both blue. Die Hard 4 was 38GB, and the upcoming Gladiator records a whopping 45GB for the video & audio only. Poadster, the LPCM is still lossless, you're basically hearing the same thing. The only difference is that it is being decoded by your PS3, not the AVR (there are some difference but that's just more to the decoding part, but the details should be the same, never lost). Can refer to the second post of the BD thread for the flow chart. |
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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Aug 28 2009, 08:11 AM) RM1250 for the new Slim PS3 is very good price. Seriously I'll say this again, for those who haven't own any BDP or PS3 this is the best solution. By the way, this new Slim PS3 can be plugged to any power outlet in the world, the PSU supports 100-240V at 50-60Hz. The only factor to consider now is the BD region coding, no more worries about getting a step-up/down transformers. One update on the new PS3 slim, it actually has the ability to upscale all sources to 1080p. The older PS3 will not upscale anything on BD (480i, 1080i). This is something for some to consider if it important to u.About the pirated BDs, they're all BD25. So unless the size of the original movie was equal or smaller than that, they have re-encoded the movie to lower bitrate even even though still 1080p (just like the MKV rips). Details will be lost, two pixels side by side, blue and green may just appear both blue. Die Hard 4 was 38GB, and the upcoming Gladiator records a whopping 45GB for the video & audio only. Poadster, the LPCM is still lossless, you're basically hearing the same thing. The only difference is that it is being decoded by your PS3, not the AVR (there are some difference but that's just more to the decoding part, but the details should be the same, never lost). Can refer to the second post of the BD thread for the flow chart. |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Aug 28 2009, 08:36 AM) One update on the new PS3 slim, it actually has the ability to upscale all sources to 1080p. The older PS3 will not upscale anything on BD (480i, 1080i). This is something for some to consider if it important to u. I thought they already fixed that in a firmware update? But that is another good news. And considering the price, the report about it being slower loading than the old PS3 is not a big factor. Many standalone players at this price range aren't that fast either. |
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Aug 28 2009, 09:38 AM
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PS3 cannot mod lah bro...
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mod chip is only for ps2 bro.... no such thing 'yet' for ps3.
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Aug 28 2009, 09:37 AM) soree.. me no gamer, cos i heard PS3 cant play local disc. u have modified and unmodified version I don't believe they have mod chip for playing non legal games on the PS3. I also don't think there are pirated games as yet...is it true?? Added on August 28, 2009, 9:38 amso guess the same for PS3 Slim |
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eh.. got pirated BDs meh?
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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Aug 28 2009, 09:39 AM) maybe he mod chip to play fake PS2 games mah.. Added on August 28, 2009, 9:58 am QUOTE(wackojacko @ Aug 28 2009, 09:53 AM) shouldn't be that hard to see... BD25s looks very different from DVDR or unker HO dvd9s..This post has been edited by ar188: Aug 28 2009, 09:58 AM |
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for RM48 on pirated BD25 is a rip off...
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 28 2009, 09:58 AM) maybe he mod chip to play fake PS2 games mah.. Oh, never had a PS2. But my PS3 is backward compatible with PS2 games, Added on August 28, 2009, 9:58 am shouldn't be that hard to see... BD25s looks very different from DVDR or unker HO dvd9s.. QUOTE(geforce1999 @ Aug 28 2009, 09:59 AM) Exactly. Add a few bucks you can already get an original BD50. |
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oh.. I thought there wouldn't be any pirated BDs but then I remembered some fella did crack BD tech sometime back...
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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Aug 28 2009, 08:11 AM) RM1250 for the new Slim PS3 is very good price. Seriously I'll say this again, for those who haven't own any BDP or PS3 this is the best solution. By the way, this new Slim PS3 can be plugged to any power outlet in the world, the PSU supports 100-240V at 50-60Hz. The only factor to consider now is the BD region coding, no more worries about getting a step-up/down transformers. To overcome the Region locking, simple. Get two slim PS3s lor..... region A and B..... About the pirated BDs, they're all BD25. So unless the size of the original movie was equal or smaller than that, they have re-encoded the movie to lower bitrate even even though still 1080p (just like the MKV rips). Details will be lost, two pixels side by side, blue and green may just appear both blue. Die Hard 4 was 38GB, and the upcoming Gladiator records a whopping 45GB for the video & audio only. Poadster, the LPCM is still lossless, you're basically hearing the same thing. The only difference is that it is being decoded by your PS3, not the AVR (there are some difference but that's just more to the decoding part, but the details should be the same, never lost). Can refer to the second post of the BD thread for the flow chart. Hv nvr tried the Uncle Ho BD25s, so was very curious on the PQ/SQ. Am expecting the SQ to be just regular DTS/DD flavored with no HD options, but the PQ shld be ok (as in mkv-ish). Still not very worthy to look at..... as of now.... LPCM is sounds pretty fine to me, can hear the difference to the sound. Since my PS3 cant bitstream, i cant taste the difference (auditioning the same disc using a diff set-up dont count for comparison), nor ever see the magical words TrueHD or DTSMA, but i can live with that..... Added on August 28, 2009, 10:30 amMod chips are used to bypass any security encryption checks on game discs, put there by game developers and Sony to curb piracy. However, there are no mod chips for PS3 la.... it was nvr successfully cracked. Even uncle ho ps2 games cant be played on the PS3.... but i have nvr tried it personally. Only ori games and movie BDs are inserted into the precious slot.... This post has been edited by Poadster: Aug 28 2009, 10:30 AM |
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http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=3335
Slim PS3 Reviewed as a BD Player Posted August 28, 2009 05:14 AM by Juan Calonge PlayStation 3 slim Tech site Engadget and AV site Home Cinema Choice have just published two reviews of the slim PS3, including its performance as a Blu-ray player. One of the reviews' findings is that the new PS3 is noticeably slower when loading a Blu-ray disc. On the other hand, improvements such as reduced power consumption and lower noise are confirmed. Load times The Engadget crew was surprised by the slower BD load times. They measured two sets of data: the time between inserting the disc (listening for that last little "click" sound) and having it register in the XMB; and the time it takes to get a non-loading once you click on the disc and actually launch into the movie. Disc recognition time was virtually the same, but actual loading took a few seconds longer on the slim PS3. For example, 'Watchmen' took 27 seconds to show the first disc screen on the slim, versus 23 seconds on the original. The smallest difference recorded was 2 seconds with 'Air Force One', and the largest was 10 seconds with 'The Nightmare before Christmas'. Home Cinema Choice confirmed that the slot mechanism on this model is inferior to that of the first-gen model, and concludes that "few will be impressed by the grumpy mechanical noise it makes when loading discs." BD-J Performance Engadget didn't cover this, but Home Cinema Choice found Java loading speed to be "phenomenally fast. 'Crank 2: High Voltage' "bedded-in faster on the PS3 Slim than it did on a high-end Sony BDP-5000ES." Power consumption The power drawn when watching a Blu-ray was drastically reduced, even beyond Sony's announcement. The slim PS3 drew 75 watt during Blu-ray playback, versus 167 watt on the classic 60GB PS3. Noise Engadget confirmed its initial findings: the PS3 is up to 10 decibels quieter than the classic 60GB PS3 while watching Blu-ray movies. In their own words, "during the quieter, more suspenseful moments of 'Watchmen', there wasn't any loud whirring noises this time to ruin the mood." Home Cinema Choice confirmed that the slim PS3 is "quieter still" than the original. However, it was noted that heat builds up quickly during use and the fan noise accelerates accordingly. The reviewer relates, "Midway through 'X-Men Origins: Wolverine', I noted that the console was disgorging a lot of heat through its rear vents, and at that point, in terms of fan noise it did not seem to be an improvement on what's gone before. The huge 95mm,17-blade fan beneath the hood clearly has its work cut out..." Bitstreaming of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD This feature was confirmed, but the Home Cinema Choice reviewer encountered some compatibility problems: with an Arcam AVR-600, bitstream mode resulted in "some horrible buzzes and pops", whereas an Onkyo TX-NR906 recognized the stream without any hiccups. The reviewer concluded that there were issues regarding HDMI handshaking between the PS3 Slim and the Arcam. Bravia Sync Engadget tested this feature, connecting the console directly to a 32-inch BRAVIA L-Series TV via HDMI. The reviewers were able to do some basic tasks like navigate the XMB menu and control video playback, but not much more - you still need a controller or BD remote to operate the PS3. Miscellaneous Engadget also mentions that unlike the classic PS3, the new console doesn't have a physical on/off switch. The Home Cinema Choice tech lab measured the drive in the slim PS3 and it rated much worse than the original with CD and DVD. For example, measured audio jitter was 461.7ps, while the original deliverd only 137.9ps. And as a DVD player it's "poor", with a measured high frequency response of -6.14dB. But the reviewer remarks, "does anyone really care about DVD playback on the PS3 Slim?" [Well, going from the comments to this post, a fair number of people do, and they should bear this information in mind if they are thinking of buying a new PS3.] The Home Cinema choice reviewer thought that the new power-on and disc eject push buttons were way better than the "infuriating" soft-touch buttons on the original machine. |
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Aug 28 2009, 11:37 PM
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a few frens came over & i played transformers on my ps3 to impress them with the world of HD but ended up disappointed myself... call it placebo effect or wateva but I do feel a compromise in both PQ & AQ.. especially AQ. Felt I had to pump up the volume on my 875 to -5db to feel the movie. Like it lost dynamics too...... sigh.......... hopefully a new sub will improve this
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Aug 28 2009, 11:43 PM
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Bitstream vs LPCM mah....how to compare? Summore U use elite AVR.
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Aug 28 2009, 11:49 PM
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i tot i heard somewhere that bitstream & LPCM r same mah
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Aug 28 2009, 11:50 PM
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Aug 28 2009, 11:51 PM
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1 use PS3 to decode, 1 use high end amp to decode. How to compare lah?
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Aug 28 2009, 11:52 PM
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sigh.. maybe it's placebo effect ... hopefully it'll go away in time
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Aug 28 2009, 11:54 PM
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Aug 28 2009, 11:55 PM
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Aug 28 2009, 11:58 PM
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wat svs sub?
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Aug 28 2009, 11:59 PM
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Hsu?
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Aug 29 2009, 12:00 AM
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no hsu also
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Aug 29 2009, 12:00 AM
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Aug 29 2009, 12:01 AM
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Aug 29 2009, 12:02 AM
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Aug 29 2009, 12:02 AM
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Aug 29 2009, 12:04 AM
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[quote=ronnt88,Aug 29 2009, 12:02 AM]
i'm auditioning only.. haven't made up my mind yet.. anyways, htkaki no stock also i do enjoy impulse buying though... maybe can benefit me with your impulse "sale" as well.. |
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Aug 29 2009, 12:04 AM
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ok... nite guys... gotta go get rested 4 tomorrows trip
c some of u then.. Added on August 29, 2009, 12:05 am[quote=ar188,Aug 29 2009, 12:04 AM] [quote=ronnt88,Aug 29 2009, 12:02 AM] i'm auditioning only.. haven't made up my mind yet.. anyways, htkaki no stock also i do enjoy impulse buying though... maybe can benefit me with your impulse "sale" as well.. [/quote] knn... big taukeh wanna benefit from kuli chai these days?? This post has been edited by ronnt88: Aug 29 2009, 12:05 AM |
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