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TSkimhoong
post May 25 2009, 03:00 PM, updated 17y ago

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Credits to StarGhazzer's suggestions and compilation of our great goals
& also sigheart's suggestions to make the poll better smile.gif

1. Ade's bicycle kick vs Villareal
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2. Andy's debut vs B'burn
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3. Andy's stinger 4th goal vs Pool
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4. Vela's chip vs SheffUtd
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5. Vela's chip vs Wigan
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6. Robin's twist and shot vs Pool
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7. Nicky's pinky-boot shot vs Kiev
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8. Theo's lob vs Villareal
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9. Dudu's beachfootball finish vs Burnley
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Hope you guys enjoy it ! biggrin.gif


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Fixture (2009/10):
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18  Jul  Pre-season Friendly  Away  Barnet            15:00 UK TIME
21  Jul  Pre-season Friendly  Away  SC Columbia  17:30 UK TIME
27  Jul  Pre-season Friendly  Away  Szombathelyi  18:00 UK TIME
29  Jul  Pre-season Friendly  Away  Hannover 96    TBC 
01  Aug  Emirates Cup  Home  Atletico Madrid        16:15 UK TIME
02  Aug  Emirates Cup  Home  Rangers                16:15 UK TIME
08  Aug  Pre-season Friendly  Away Valencia          20:30 UK TIME

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The Emotional Highbury and The Grand Ashburton Grove

Highbury 1913-2006

For the majority of their time in south-east London, Arsenal played at the Manor Ground in Plumstead, a three-year period at the nearby Invicta Ground between 1890 and 1893 excepted. The Manor Ground was initially just a field, but the club installed stands and terracing in time for their first Football League match in September 1893. They played their home games there for the next twenty years (with two exceptions in 1894�95), until the move to north London in 1913.

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Arsenal Stadium, widely referred to as Highbury, was Arsenal's home from September 1913 until May 2006. The original stadium was designed by the renowned football architect Archibald Leitch, and had a design common to many football grounds in the UK at the time, with a single covered stand and three open-air banks of terracing. In the 1930s, the entire stadium was given a massive overhaul, with new Art Deco West and East stands constructed, opening in 1932 and 1936 respectively; in addition, the North Bank terrace had a roof added, which was later bombed during World War II and not restored until 1956.

At its peak, Highbury could hold over 60,000 spectators, and had a capacity of 57,000 until the early 1990s. The Taylor Report and Premier League regulations forced Arsenal to convert Highbury into an all-seater in time for the 1993�94 season, reducing the capacity to 38,419 seated spectators. This capacity had to be reduced further during Champions League matches to accommodate additional advertising hoardings, so much so that for two seasons (1998�99 and 1999�00) Arsenal played Champions League home matches at Wembley, which could house more than 70,000 spectators.

Final moments - the emotions run high in Highbury

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Ashburton Grove 2007-present

Expansion of Highbury was restricted because the East Stand had been designated as a Grade II listed building and the other three stands were close to residential properties. These limitations have prevented the club from maximising the revenue that their domestic form could have brought in recent seasons. After considering various options, in 2000 Arsenal proposed building a new 60,000-seater stadium at Ashburton Grove, since renamed the Emirates Stadium, about 500 metres south-west of Highbury. The project was initially delayed by red tape and rising costs, but construction was completed in July 2006, in time for the start of the 2006�07 season. The stadium is named after its sponsors, the airline company Emirates, with whom the club signed the largest sponsorship deal in English football history, worth approximately �100 million; however some fans refer to the ground as Ashburton Grove, or the Grove, as they do not agree with corporate sponsorship of stadium names.The stadium will be officially known as Emirates Stadium until at least 2012, and the airline will be the club's shirt sponsor until the end of the 2013�14 season.

Construction and completion of the Ashburton Grove

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post May 25 2009, 03:03 PM

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Sorry guys for the troubles.

Here's the refined poll... now looking for the clips, stay tuned smile.gif

All clips are available now... some clips are blurry, you may try to google for better ones yourself wink.gif

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post May 25 2009, 03:12 PM

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wayne here report-in!!
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post May 25 2009, 03:15 PM

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2nd? oh yeah!!!
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post May 25 2009, 03:27 PM

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post May 25 2009, 03:30 PM

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damn it! late pulak.. ahahaha..

anyway, ryan taylor or steven taylor, both also don't like gunners la. I read somewhere.

even if Steven taylor come to Arsenal, where would he fit in. Definitely he's a good, strong player but will he be able to up the tempo when needed?
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post May 25 2009, 03:32 PM

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question: why some of the member list are in red?

edit: saw it, but another question: y bold it? it is important?
i rather you bold those are label as glory hunter or you-should-avoid-his-post

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QUOTE(jam_lennon @ May 25 2009, 03:32 PM)
question: why some of the member list are in red?

edit: saw it, but another question: y bold it? it is important?
i rather you bold those are label as glory hunter or you-should-avoid-his-post
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Those are female fans. If you guys have objections on this, I can disable it.
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uih for the pole, there is no Robin's equalizer goal against Everton?
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hahahaha.. damn! like that also can aaa kimhoong? ehehehe..

vote people! Dudu's beachball goal the besT!
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ May 25 2009, 03:46 PM)
uih for the pole, there is no Robin's equalizer goal against Everton?
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I'm sorry to have disappointed you. I may have missed your suggestion in the previous thread. This is purely StarGhazzer's suggestion and I didn't notice any recommendations for other goals.

If you have objection on this poll, please vote Null. Sorry for the inconvenience. notworthy.gif
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Nasri second goal against Man United in Emirates not in the list ?
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QUOTE(kimhoong @ May 25 2009, 03:49 PM)
I'm sorry to have disappointed you. I may have missed your suggestion in the previous thread. This is purely StarGhazzer's suggestion and I didn't notice any recommendations for other goals.

If you have objection on this poll, please vote Null. Sorry for the inconvenience. notworthy.gif
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Nah!, it's ok!
Then I go for Dudu beach trick! rclxms.gif
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Ehem... You also forgot Nasri's 2nd goal against Man U smile.gif

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Edit: Oops someone brought it up already.

But while we're on the subject of goals... I was a bit disappointed with Cesc this year in terms of goal scoring. Last year he started out with a couple of sublime goals and then fizzled out. This year, he went backwards a bit in that department, and the only ones I remember are the equalising header against I can't remember what team and also the two he scored against Boro.

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QUOTE(Zan81 @ May 25 2009, 03:58 PM)
Ehem... You also forgot Nasri's 2nd goal against Man U smile.gif

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Seriously, I really didn't notice there were so many other great goals recommended in previous thread.
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QUOTE(kimhoong @ May 25 2009, 04:00 PM)
Please vote null then smile.gif
Seriously, I really didn't notice there were so many other great goals recommended in previous thread.
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1st post in new thread~

for me,definitely andy's 4th goal against liverpool.the goal that made history for scoring 4 against the reds at anfield.the goal that made us think we won the match already.and of course,the goal that made us remember that the goal was very similar to the one that Ade scored in last year CL quarter final(against liverpool as well!)except that walcott just run easily without any intervention by liverpool's players.

and this kind of goal that made us love bobby+freddie combo.hope to see another goals similar like this next season.
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new thread, can't waiting the new season.


Added on May 25, 2009, 4:14 pmme vote, Andy's stinger 4th goal vs Pool

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next poll should be the best player of the season smile.gif
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QUOTE(Zan81 @ May 25 2009, 03:58 PM)
Ehem... You also forgot Nasri's 2nd goal against Man U smile.gif

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Edit: Oops someone brought it up already.

But while we're on the subject of goals... I was a bit disappointed with Cesc this year in terms of goal scoring. Last year he started out with a couple of sublime goals and then fizzled out. This year, he went backwards a bit in that department, and the only ones I remember are the equalising header against I can't remember what team and also the two he scored against Boro.
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1- He injured for long time.
2- We do not have a good DM. He was busy protecting our back 4. laugh.gif
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waiting for otai-otai finish season summary..biggrin.gif
hope we will challenge next season championship much better than this season..c'mon gunners..!!
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if we put all the best goals this season
one poll thread is not enough. tongue.gif
i nearly vote null, but one goal made me thinking..
he could be our great striker, given enough chance.

►vela chip vs sheffield. notworthy.gif
despite his small size
he chested the ball well
and went to finish the move with lovely chip.
i mean he knew exactly what he gonna do.
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best player of the season? DIABY! ahahahahaha
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QUOTE(sakaito @ May 25 2009, 04:52 PM)
best player of the season? DIABY! ahahahahaha
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Rvp last goal of the season also a good compose goal!! brows.gif
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well.. anyone wanna suggest who's the best player for arsenal this season?

i can come out with only 1 name... Manuel Almunia. He is vital to our team this season. Whenever he's out, the defense is more shaky than it usually is.
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QUOTE(sakaito @ May 25 2009, 05:25 PM)
well.. anyone wanna suggest who's the best player for arsenal this season?

i can come out with only 1 name... Manuel Almunia. He is vital to our team this season. Whenever he's out, the defense is more shaky than it usually is.
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Nobody deserves it if you're asking me. Everybody blew hot and cold this year without having a consistent run of form.

But Man Utd might probably award Silvestre for their player of the season...
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Arsene Wenger: Robin van Persie's Future Is At Arsenal
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Arsenal Again Linked With Blackburn Rovers' Santa Cruz & Bordeaux's Chamakh
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Arsenal's Arsene Wenger Frustrated By Theo Walcott's International Commitments
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Ade's for me, considering the importance and under the circumstances which he scored it. We were absolutely horrendous during that game and we never really did look like scoring. For a moment I just couldn't believe we scored until they replayed the goal did it then sink in for me.
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QUOTE(Zan81 @ May 25 2009, 05:55 PM)
Nobody deserves it if you're asking me. Everybody blew hot and cold this year without having a consistent run of form.

But Man Utd might probably award Silvestre for their player of the season...
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LOL. If I were a MU fan I'd probably give it to Silvestre as well sweat.gif

Jokes aside, no one truly deserved it this season. But if I had to choose, I'm pretty torn between Manny and Robin. Andy's being left out because he only had 1/2 a season and he hasn't exactly eased fully into his role yet (esp defensive cover for the LB). Attacking wise, there's no complaints about our Tsar.

Apart from the draw with T'ham, Manny didn't exactly do any major mistakes. But there are times when he could have done better, for example Ronaldo's freekick at the Grove. To be fair to him, not everybody is Buffon and Manny surely had one of the better seasons compared to the past. I'm pretty happy with him as our no1 next season provided the defence gives him more cover.

Robin, well, it's his first season with any major injuries and he's provided a total of 20G+9A, not forgetting that he single-handedly dragged us through January. He didn't have the best midfield to support him plus he was playing as a withdrawn striker pretty regularly. Then again, the indifferent performances in certain games kind of irks me, but he'll do better once he has a regular partner who will become the main scorer.

If he had a strike partner who will finish off the chances, or more midfield runners (Andy/Nasri/Theo/maybe even Diaby if he plays) to charge into the box, he might even reach double figures in assists. Although that may potentially reduce the number of goals he will score, we'll never know for sure.
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ade for me as well as no1
second would be Arshavin goal againts Liv...followed up by dudu beachfootball finish laugh.gif
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i chose dudu's beachfootball. it was fantastic and it made me miss dudu so much. i also liked robin's last goal of the season..was good. and nicky's pinky shot vs kiev was not all that spectacular, but i enjoyed him taking his shirt off tongue.gif my player of the season would be almunia. robin was good of course, but i feel that almunia was good this season. without him, we would have conceded much more, and it didn't help that our back four were pretty poor.
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anyone has traditional pitch walking around by players and coach video last nite?

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off topic:

do you guys want to buy next season away jersey?...is the quality from arsenal online shopping and the one that will be sell in malaysia was a same grade?...i'm trying to buy from online, but the postage is killing me, 18 pound for postage only...unless you buy in a large volume...so, need opinion from you guys, is it better for me to wait until the jersey arrive malaysia, or should i buy it online from arsenal online shop?
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ahhh, RvP was so close to a hattrick last night!
for those havent watched the highlight yet http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/2591755/
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Arsenal v Stoke highlight uploaded into our youtube channel and slightly changes on the channel design tongue.gif

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I voted for the wrong goal... Instead of Arshavin's fourth against Liverpool, I prefer his SECOND wink.gif
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I was just watching the highlights of our 4-1 win against Stoke. RVP was at his best with a 2 goal finish. I mean why couldn't he had the same form when we played Man Utd.

Anyways, the part where he won the penalty for us, his touch reminds me so much of the super goal Bergkamp scored against Newcastle. RVP took a touch on one side and then twisted his body to the other side and receive it totally leaving that Stoke defender for dead. Just as he was about to strike, he was tripped and we won the penalty. Great piece of skill. His second goal was equally impressive tho i must say he's damn lucky. I think Delap accidentally headed to RVP thinking he was heading to his GK. RVP took one touch and slam it home volley style in a semi scissor kick volley. Brilliant!


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the best for me is vela VS wigan....

but i voted for andy without looking at the vid first doh.gif
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o/ vela vs wigan and i voted the right goal biggrin.gif
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in terms of importance, it's arshavin goal at anfield. we remain unbeaten because of his goals.

in term of technique, dudu's beachfootball strike is the best.

i vote dudu!!

cmon next season!!
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QUOTE(overmars @ May 25 2009, 08:37 PM)
ahhh, RvP was so close to a hattrick last night!
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yeah... he almost got it. IINM he hasn't scored one for us just yet, although there was the hattrick of assists early this year.

QUOTE(giotto @ May 25 2009, 11:20 PM)
I was just watching the highlights of our 4-1 win against Stoke. RVP was at his best with a 2 goal finish. I mean why couldn't he had the same form when we played Man Utd.

Anyways, the part where he won the penalty for us, his touch reminds me so much of the super goal Bergkamp scored against Newcastle. RVP took a touch on one side and then twisted his body to the other side and receive it totally leaving that Stoke defender for dead. Just as he was about to strike, he was tripped and we won the penalty. Great piece of skill. His second goal was equally impressive tho i must say he's damn lucky. I think Delap accidentally headed to RVP thinking he was heading to his GK. RVP took one touch and slam it home volley style in a semi scissor kick volley. Brilliant!
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I thought it was a cheeky piece of skill.

The spin past the marker was brilliant, although not as smoothly done as Dennis did. And when he got into the box, he was smart enough to leave a trailing leg to get clipped and went down. Kicking the striker's leg instead of the ball is definitely a foul, but I can't help but think Robin could have skipped past that.

Not that I'm complaining too much hehe, we scored from that. tongue.gif

Oh yeah... just realised that we left out Nasri's goal vs MU and Andy's interception and shot for the 2nd Pool goal in the poll. Oh well, you guys probably have realised that anyway.
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No one beat Bergkamp goal against Newcastle....

It never happen again since Bergkamp already retire and Newcastle already relagated....
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No one beat Bergkamp goal against Newcastle....

It never happen again since Bergkamp already retire and Newcastle already relagated....
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com'on, mov' on, dude

it certainly no more bergkamp but as long as there is still football and there will more great goal
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Well, if we want to talk about Bergy's goal, lets also not forget the screamer RVP scored against Charlton. That was a sizzler.

But honestly i can't pick any special goals this season simply because there's not one that is particularly outstanding. Dont get me wrong, those mention above here are good goals but to pick 1 special goal, just can't do it.
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Well, there was an article I read (or was it a football talkshow?) about the definition of great goals.

Is it the meaning of the goal to the club?

Is it the technical difficulties?

Must it be individual or in a group?

Is it the flow of the goal?

Must it be a long shot? (yeah, most long shots look great brows.gif )

Must it be unstoppable by the keeper?

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I'll say, just ignore all the definitions laugh.gif Just follow your heart and vote whichever you like
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The beach volley type goal frm Dudu...infact no one scored like that this season.so simply thats the best,.
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I'll say, just ignore all the definitions laugh.gif Just follow your heart and vote whichever you like
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Arsenal v Stoke highlight uploaded into our youtube channel and slightly changes on the channel design tongue.gif
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we are being linked to cana again? omg i would not like this guy to play for any of our opponents. he is a leg breaker. check out the vid

http://thirdgen.wordpress.com/2009/05/26/w...e-wenger-keown/
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The last piece of the puzzle. biggrin.gif

I don't mind a Vieira like player who gets red carded any other match as long as we have some steel in the midfield.
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The last piece of the puzzle. biggrin.gif

I don't mind a Vieira like player who gets red carded any other match as long as we have some steel in the midfield.
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Seriously? That means he would get to play like 1/3 of our matches  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kaka91 @ May 26 2009, 01:03 PM)
we are being linked to cana again? omg i would not like this guy to play for any of our opponents. he is a leg breaker. check out the vid

http://thirdgen.wordpress.com/2009/05/26/w...e-wenger-keown/
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this fella again meh? although i think it'd be good to have him, this whole thing just stinks of rehashing past targets to make the news rounds.
as far as i'm concerned, wenger has never mentioned anything even remotely close to a name that resembles lorik cana.
until wenger says it (which i highly doubt) or lorik actually holds that arsenal shirt, this is just typical rumour mill news....




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QUOTE(lostasylum @ May 26 2009, 04:03 PM)
this fella again meh? although i think it'd be good to have him, this whole thing just stinks of rehashing past targets to make the news rounds.
as far as i'm concerned, wenger has never mentioned anything even remotely close to a name that resembles lorik cana.
until wenger says it (which i highly doubt) or lorik actually holds that arsenal shirt, this is just typical rumour mill news....
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since when he announces first before he makes the move? laugh.gif
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true, arsene has not said anything, but i would like him to be with us. ooh, imagine if evra calls us babies again..hehe, he will find himself on the floor, cannot play few games! =))
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QUOTE(giotto @ May 26 2009, 09:46 AM)
Well, if we want to talk about Bergy's goal, lets also not forget the screamer RVP scored against Charlton. That was a sizzler.
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http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/a...ars-on-homepage

today is the 20th anniversary for THAT night at liverpool. damn, wish i had been born then. arsenal.com has some celebrations on their site, check it out.. and bould will take our kids to andfield today. here is to our young guns! may they do what we didn't.. and to recon, PLEASE put up those interviews on that night on youtube! biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(little_mozart @ May 26 2009, 04:06 PM)
since when he announces first before he makes the move? laugh.gif
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exactly... like i said loh.. it's highly unlikely. but until wenger says something OR i see lorik cana holding an arsenal jersey with his name on it, i'm gonna treat it like what it should be: rumours.. =)
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cana? can ask nasri to comment bout him? hahaha...
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QUOTE(kaka91 @ May 26 2009, 04:21 PM)
true, arsene has not said anything, but i would like him to be with us. ooh, imagine if evra calls us babies again..hehe, he will find himself on the floor, cannot play few games! =))
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if cana was with us (and i emphasize the word "IF" here so that no one will get their hopes up), evra would find himself on the floor everytime he comes across cana, regardless of what he did or did not say... hahahahaah.. =)

nothing like a no nonsense tough tackling midfielder to instill some fear into our opponents... *continues dreaming*... .
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QUOTE(wadever @ May 26 2009, 04:24 PM)
Not forgetting Henry's flick and volley against MU~ ;D


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We should ask Ribery to join Arsenal instead of letting Evra calling him to ManU.

We got a french manager and french player smile.gif
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Remember someone name Geremi? He is still at newscatle right? I think he is a decent cover
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QUOTE(lostasylum @ May 26 2009, 04:03 PM)
this fella again meh? although i think it'd be good to have him, this whole thing just stinks of rehashing past targets to make the news rounds.
as far as i'm concerned, wenger has never mentioned anything even remotely close to a name that resembles lorik cana.
until wenger says it (which i highly doubt) or lorik actually holds that arsenal shirt, this is just typical rumour mill news....
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Cana = Veloso

In terms of rumour rehash frequency lol.

Dzeko probably is going to join the crowd, with another 50 African-French players.

Geesh. Brace yourselves for another crazy summer transfer market.

QUOTE(Azurues @ May 26 2009, 07:01 PM)
We should ask Ribery to join Arsenal instead of letting Evra calling him to ManU.
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And where would we fit him in with Andy and Nasri available in the team?

QUOTE(ivanau88 @ May 26 2009, 07:07 PM)
Remember someone name Geremi? He is still at newscatle right? I think he is a decent cover
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Maybe a good cover, and at 30 years old he won't "destroy" our youngsters. Probably not first choice though.
I haven't seen enough of him this season to make a judgment, but there probably are better options out there, possibly outside EPL, for Arsene to choose from.

Is it likely to happen? Probably not.
Another question would be would more so called fans hurl abuses like "geriatric" if he doesn't perform up to the expected standard?

I still feel that if none of the Boro/Newcastle players would significantly improve our current team, so why bother?

And LD has his pick for the goals of the season.
http://www.arsenal.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=514558

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We can't afford to join the bidding war.
And where would we fit him in with Andy and Nasri available in the team?
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not that i think we can afford Ribery now, but he will play ahead of Samir if he come to the Emirates. no question about "where would we fit him in" at all IMO

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not that i think we can afford Ribery now, but he will play ahead of Samir if he come to the Emirates. no question about "where would we fit him in" at all IMO
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Youth cup final 2nd leg tonight guys biggrin.gif

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=39758&part=sports

1:45am if im not wrong
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but aw seldom buys player that will replace someone first teamer hmm.gif
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well, maybe that's the part where le Boss can improve on biggrin.gif

i do agree that very very seldom le Boss bought someone to replace the first teamer who are very much talented and performed quite OK for his first season such as Samir. Bobby was bought after we lose Overmars. the same with King Henry, he was brought in after we lose le Sulk. Gallas also was brought in after we lose Sulzer

but there were few cases where le Boss bought in someone to improve certain areas of the team. e.g. Gilberto was brought in while we still have Edu and Ray Parlour

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Wow, I've just found out that Felipe Melo played on Malaysian soil before, at Sabah FA on loan from Gremio.
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Wow, I've just found out that Felipe Melo played on Malaysian soil before, at Sabah FA on loan from Gremio.
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Felipe Melo the att mid from Fiorentina. Brazillian.
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Felipe Melo is an attacking midfielder currently playing for Fiorentina in Italy.
He has been linked to Arsenal for a couple of times but the latest news now is that Arshavin's former club, Zenit has put in a bid for this Brazilian midfielder.
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felipe melo defensive midfieder lorr...
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what time is the youth cup final?
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27-05-2009 02:45 04:45

3 more mins but the streams are still dead o.o
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3 more mins but the streams are still dead o.o
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try this one.. working, but lagging a little bit..

http://www.iraqgoals.net/ch3.html
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try this one.. working, but lagging a little bit..

http://www.iraqgoals.net/ch3.html
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astro no live guys?
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so laggy.. astro no live.. but arsenal is leading 1-0 now at anfield. 5-1 on agg. sounds like gg to me biggrin.gif
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hi guys. off topic a bit....who want to buy new away jersey for season 09/10 please contact me. i am ordering now.

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win 2-1!!

agg 6-2!!

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well, maybe that's the part where le Boss can improve on  biggrin.gif

i do agree that very very seldom le Boss bought someone to replace the first teamer who are very much talented and performed quite OK for his first season such as Samir. Bobby was bought after we lose Overmars. the same with King Henry, he was brought in after we lose le Sulk. Gallas also was brought in after we lose Sulzer

but there were few cases where le Boss bought in someone to improve certain areas of the team. e.g. Gilberto was brought in while we still have Edu and Ray Parlour
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Damn!!!Juventus has signed Diego from Werder Bremen and Bayern Munich just signed Mario Gomez from Bayern Munich......When is arsenal going to make their move on new players??? sweat.gif it's going to be a long summer.... unsure.gif icon_question.gif

Source
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Juventus sign Diego from Werder Bremen
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QUOTE(izaman @ May 27 2009, 04:42 AM)
hi guys. off topic a bit....who want to buy new away jersey for season 09/10 please contact me. i am ordering now.

http://onlinestore.arsenal.com/invt/a55059a&bklist=
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Damn!!!Juventus has signed Diego from Werder Bremen and Bayern Munich just signed Mario Gomez from Bayern Munich......When is arsenal going to make their move on new players??? sweat.gif it's going to be a long summer.... unsure.gif  icon_question.gif
hahah... boss... sabar ler... arsenal where got make their move so early one? sure got long rumour drama going on first... =)

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hahah... boss... sabar ler... arsenal where got make their move so early one? sure got long rumour drama going on first... =)
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Ya right. AW's purchases are always entertaining brows.gif

However, AW's approach may not suit the current trend of football as there are more and more clubs buying players without bothering the prices. Anyway, I understand there is a need for such approach (AW's) because we are not those super rich clubs (minus the debts).

AW was right to ask all the Arsenal internal guys to shut up on talking about our budget etc... cos it will just reveal how deep our pocket is - which can be used as a bargaining reference.
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As usual la, AW will make last min shopping! I think some unknown fellas again, somebody which we don't expect to sign....like last season silves...
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As usual la, AW will make last min shopping! I think some unknown fellas again, somebody which we don't expect to sign....like last season silves...
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Ya right. AW's purchases are always entertaining brows.gif

However, AW's approach may not suit the current trend of football as there are more and more clubs buying players without bothering the prices. Anyway, I understand there is a need for such approach (AW's) because we are not those super rich clubs (minus the debts).

AW was right to ask all the Arsenal internal guys to shut up on talking about our budget etc... cos it will just reveal how deep our pocket is - which can be used as a bargaining reference.
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wenger is an astute businessman when it comes to the transfer market. he refuses to be bullied into a price he does not agree to and he never reveals his hand too soon. i believe that he is right to tell the arsenal board to keep quiet. if you tell all and sundry about how much you have to spend, what edge do you have when you go to the negotiating table?

i am really thankful that wenger puts the club's finances as priority before making foolish purchases.
i do, however, hope that this time, wenger will dip into the transfer kitty a bit more because i think we need to.
and from what he has been saying to the press, it would seem that he knows it as well...

let's see where we go from here... take the wheel monsieur wenger...
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Arsene Wenger has his own estimation of the value of any players that he really want. and he will not go over his own estimation of the top value for any players in the world just for the sake of getting the player he want

of course that just my opinion on how i see le Boss's behavior in transfer market
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adebayor says he is happy and wants to stay.. again dry.gif

tho to be fair, if he does instead stay, we dont need to buy another striker whistling.gif

any buyers for adebayor? drool.gif
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yea, the kids won their final. i am pleased that at least it worked out for them! the future is bright..its red and white! =) on to ade, i dun care if he wanna stay or go. seriously, i really dun care abt him anymore.
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Our Academy's overall record in 2009:

W D L GF GA
21 2 0 64 22


Our Youth Cup run specifically (in which we played all three of the other Academy League group winners in Sunderland, Citeh, and Tiny Totts plus Pool and Villa):

W D L GF GA
8 0 0 25 8


Unbeaten in 2009. That is one h*ll of a youth team biggrin.gif

and who says we didnt win anything this year? We won 6 trophies biggrin.gif
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the only things i like after the end of the season are
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the only things i like after the end of the season are
video compilations
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transfer rumours

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World Cup or EURO (which only happens every 2 years... Sigh...)
Picking up season review DVD in Speedy
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yeah, transfer romours
C. Ronaldo this, C. Ronaldo that... sick of it... but still its entertaining biggrin.gif



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Arsene Wenger has his own estimation of the value of any players that he really want. and he will not go over his own estimation of the top value for any players in the world just for the sake of getting the player he want

of course that just my opinion on how i see le Boss's behavior in transfer market
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Our Academy's overall record in 2009:

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Our Youth Cup run specifically (in which we played all three of the other Academy League group winners in Sunderland, Citeh, and Tiny Totts plus Pool and Villa):

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Unbeaten in 2009. That is one h*ll of a youth team biggrin.gif

and who says we didnt win anything this year? We won 6 trophies biggrin.gif
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Point I'm trying to make is, don't expect too much from your youth squad. In the past we've only had Ashley Cole and recently Gibbs coming through (dammit enough leftbacks already!!). Wilshere has already made the step up but I'm not too confident the rest of them can.
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fyi, there are lampard and rio ferdinand as well

clichy oso one of our youth product


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fyi, there are lampard and rio ferdinand as well

clichy oso one of our youth product
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cesc is not exactly one of OUR youth products... i think the kids will do well. they(esp jack) impress me
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fyi, there are lampard and rio ferdinand as well

clichy oso one of our youth product
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Well... Clichy and Cesc were poached from other clubs... But I suppose still can consider la... 1/2 mark blush.gif

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cesc came at the age of 15/16. clichy came at the age of 17.

we snapped/bought them.

still, coming at such a young age, our academy has some contributions on their development so they would be what they are now..

to date, we have only one that make through the rank (cole) and i believe gibbs will make it to the 1st team..

others, they play for other teams.. not bad for academy reputation i think.
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Anyway..i am rooting Barcelona all the way tonight for this match no matter what.

Would love to see Henry to score some goals haha
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i only want to see Titi hold the Big Ears. if he's not playing, i could not be bothered who win tonight

but of course come 2.45, i'll be in front of my tv to watch the final biggrin.gif
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I hope the ex gunners will score. Sylvinho, Henry or Hleb if they got to play. Sorry to say, I do like Man Utd to win. Because especially my friends is going to boast around. Evra had been speaking a lot lately. Lets see what he can do
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i only want to see Titi hold the Big Ears. if he's not playing, i could not be bothered who win tonight

but of course come 2.45, i'll be in front of my tv to watch the final biggrin.gif
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MU wont become the first team to retain champs league 2nite
go go go henry
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henry would be having a familiar feeling against man utd. he'd be sure to be wearing the barca kit and playing with barca teammates, but deep down i think he'd never forget that he's a gunner. i'm sure he'll be revisiting his days in highbury against his old arch rivals, and i hope that would levitate his performance today. i for sure am rooting for barca, i enjoy their style of play more and well... some man utd (read: some) are just rotten to the core. this defeat'll give the other fans at least a few weeks of peace w/o constant bragging shoved onto their faces.

tho i admit, some key players are out for barca n it'll be quite a handicap. this will be interesting to see
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henry!! he is rooting for this night!! that's why he left us.. hope he'll lift the trophy!!
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any chances hleb will play? lol
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hleb is destined to be squad player in barca..

he wont get ahead of that kid iniesta and xavi..

but then squad player also got the winning medal!! hehehe..
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goal
and who said eto'o not scoring against top teams this season
oops, is MU a top team?? tongue.gif
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Barcelona really played their attacking game although defence is weak at some point.

Anyway this is like Messi Vs Ronaldo kind of game right now
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goal
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Henry was quite and isolated reminds me of Adebayor but Barcelona was playing real good. I felt so nice because Evra wasn't performing. Conceded 1 goal from the his side. Look who is the baby now. Rooney got no temper, dare to release at England but not Europe biggrin.gif
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Henry was quite and isolated reminds me of Adebayor but Barcelona was playing real good. I felt so nice because Evra wasn't performing. Conceded 1 goal from the his side. Look who is the baby now. Rooney got no temper, dare to release at England but not Europe  biggrin.gif
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carles puyol was beast! he was everywhere. and xavi's assist was freakin class. ronaldo was quiet. he was nothing. CR vs. messi wtheck, messi is the real thing
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QUOTE(Thumpy Ick @ May 28 2009, 04:44 AM)
carles puyol was beast! he was everywhere. and xavi's assist was freakin class. ronaldo was quiet. he was nothing. CR vs. messi wtheck, messi is the real thing
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oh man.. sad.gif it was pain watching henry in barca shirt lifted the trophy...how i wish he's still in red and white....oh yea hleb 2 as well...err silvinho? shocking.gif tongue.gif

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oh man..  sad.gif  it was pain watching henry in barca shirt lifted the trophy...how i wish he's still in red and white....oh yea hleb 2 as well...err silvinho? shocking.gif  tongue.gif
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finally henry got what he wanted, to win all major cup..

european cup..
world cup..
UCL..
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I doubt any arsenal fans hate King Henry. I think he feel more comfortable in barcelona bcoz the pressure on him when he was with us is much much more than now.

felt want to cry when the camera was on henry, and he was looking at the trophy. As a fan of arsenal, Im proud with henry even though he has left us. But in his deep of his heart, I think arsenal is still plays an important role to him
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loose must loose graciously....
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Hope Arsenal will do better next season.


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nah, i felt proud for henry. he made the right choice for his career, i am happy for him when he lifted and sort of wore the cup like a hat hahaha. i would like for him to return to us, but that's for him to decide. and for wenger. he needs to get a few more class players to show henry how serious we are for CL. i'm sure he wants to lift the cup with the club he'd played and became world class with
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Its bitter sweet seeing Henry finally getting wht he wanted. He owe us nothing but still he deserved it. Not Hleb though.

When evra said it was man vs babies, he was referring to himself. Those sulking babies were playing barbies in fergie's playground all nite
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i dont want to see henry lifting the cup
i want to see adebayor lifting the cup
that will be a sight
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Is kinda pain to c those messages posted in the Man utd thread. Not sporting at all. At least, I congrats my Man utd friends through sms. They told me they wasn't at their best and I said you deserve to be in the final.
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^ that is, if he stays.

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QUOTE(Alternation @ May 28 2009, 05:04 AM)
Its bitter sweet seeing Henry finally getting wht he wanted. He owe us nothing but still he deserved it. Not Hleb though.

When evra said it was man vs babies, he was referring to himself. Those sulking babies were playing barbies in fergie's playground all nite
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QUOTE(ocz @ May 28 2009, 05:02 AM)
Hope Arsenal will do better next season.


Added on May 28, 2009, 5:02 am

Since i support both clubs. tongue.gif  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ivanau88 @ May 28 2009, 05:06 AM)
Is kinda pain to c those messages posted in the Man utd thread. Not sporting at all. At least, I congrats my Man utd friends through sms. They told me they wasn't at their best and I said you deserve to be in the final.
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who is evra? The one tricked by xavi and puyol for the whole night? whistling.gif
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very knn, scholes, CR7 and vidic damn unsporting
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i do feel happy for Henry, he has finally won his 1st UCL trophy at Barcelona that he failed to win with us
by doing so,MU fans think we are celebrating asthough we are the one winning CPL, but i dont see any post here close to celebration material type of post thou...oh well,everyone thinks differently
they are abit uneasy on us behaving such way thou,better not take a step any further guys,we are not the team that won UCL today...just feel bit happy for our ex king henry,its enuff
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shouldnt they talk about the final more? instead of the team they beat in semifinal smile.gif
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Great to see that Henry finally wins the ECL Cup - I was discussing with my friend just now, about Henry has won all the English, Spanish and European tournament (club and club/international level) thumbup.gif
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the one that shut off Walcott few weeks ago. Just so u know.
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its normal for a loser club bro. smile.gif
They talked about us,they can't accept losing.
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is this gracious?....hhmmm....
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Is kinda pain to c those messages posted in the Man utd thread. Not sporting at all. At least, I congrats my Man utd friends through sms. They told me they wasn't at their best and I said you deserve to be in the final.
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I think you guys missed the posts from pages 90+ to 120+ where Utd posters agreed that Utd didn't play well the moment the game ended. Then some Arsenal (or Pool) poster posted a mocking response and it got deleted, I know because my response was deleted as well (because I had quoted him). It went downhill from there.
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shouldnt they talk about the final more? instead of the team they beat in semifinal smile.gif
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QUOTE(ray123 @ May 28 2009, 05:15 AM)
I think you guys missed the posts from pages 90+ to 120+ where Utd posters agreed that Utd didn't play well the moment the game ended. Then some Arsenal (or Pool) poster posted a mocking response and it got deleted, I know because my response was deleted as well (because I had quoted him). It went downhill from there.
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I think you guys missed the posts from pages 90+ to 120+ where Utd posters agreed that Utd didn't play well the moment the game ended. Then some Arsenal (or Pool) poster posted a mocking response and it got deleted, I know because my response was deleted as well (because I had quoted him). It went downhill from there.
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QUOTE(ray123 @ May 28 2009, 05:15 AM)
I think you guys missed the posts from pages 90+ to 120+ where Utd posters agreed that Utd didn't play well the moment the game ended. Then some Arsenal (or Pool) poster posted a mocking response and it got deleted, I know because my response was deleted as well (because I had quoted him). It went downhill from there.
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Thanks for stating that. thumbup.gif Peace & harmony guys.
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anyway henry and barca deserve the champs becoz they are better...in football not always u can see better team wins but tonight,ya, barca won coz they are better...and grates to barca and henry

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Thanks for stating that.  thumbup.gif Peace & harmony guys.
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Anyway I am waiting to congrats you guys. You guys deserve to be in the final and just 1 step away from creating history. Better team wins. Peace flex.gif
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although man united lost i think they deserve to be in the finals. bad thing is they only played good for 9 mins.

anyways, I WANT TO SEE ARSENAL IN NEXT CL FINAL DAMMIT!!!
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It's a final between Barca and United and I can't believe I need to monitor an Arsenal topic. doh.gif

So tone down while I get some shut eyes.
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QUOTE(odieseven @ May 28 2009, 05:17 AM)
Thanks for stating that.  thumbup.gif Peace & harmony guys.
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Congrats to Barca but well done to Man Utd. Even though Red Devils beaten in UCL finale, but Man Utd still win in terms of cup won this season! Man Utd 4 Barca 3 is the true final score! LOL!
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QUOTE(b00n @ May 28 2009, 05:16 AM)
His response is to yours:

So do not report others as taunting when you're doing the same thing.
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No offense. We were taunting other players in our own thread rather than other places. In this case, am I allowed to "respond" to other thread which they taunt at our players?
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QUOTE(b00n @ May 28 2009, 05:20 AM)
It's a final between Barca and United and I can't believe I need to monitor an Arsenal topic. doh.gif

So tone down while I get some shut eyes.
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Orite boss... smile.gif SOrry for the trouble..
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QUOTE(b00n @ May 28 2009, 05:20 AM)
It's a final between Barca and United and I can't believe I need to monitor an Arsenal topic. doh.gif

So tone down while I get some shut eyes.
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All becoz of an ex Arsenal player, Henry doh.gif

Barca thread is jst around the corner ... shoo shoo. Henry is there laugh.gif
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QUOTE(b00n @ May 28 2009, 05:20 AM)
It's a final between Barca and United and I can't believe I need to monitor an Arsenal topic. doh.gif

So tone down while I get some shut eyes.
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I agree with this.

The final was between Barca and MU. It has nothing to do with Arsenal.

We are NEUTRAL fans.

I know many of us here are Henry fans (including me brows.gif )

For other fans - PLEASE DO NOT BASH THE WHOLE ARSENAL FANS IF THERE IS ONE OR TWO MEMBERS HERE HAVE OFFENDED YOU

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No offense. We were taunting other players in our own thread rather than other places. In this case, am I allowed to "respond" to other thread which they taunt at our players?
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You are allowed and either both comments got deleted and each gets a warning or it stays that way and become a healthy banter.
Your choice!

Both of yours and his comment stays as it's a healthy banter. You taunted with a valid remarks and he reverted back. There's nothing wrong with it.
But you missed those that went missing before that.

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hmm,every clubs has their own blacksheep fans
sometimes when u bump into some of them.....some may instantly make decisions blindly,judging things to fast....not knowing there are also good material fans out there.
Mu has some,we have some,liv has some and same goes for the other clubs..
they are definitely badass people....but they have their pro's as well,explained later tongue.gif
im sure in every club thread, surely there are some post that make others unhappy....
ive seen some post that i really dislike and of course vice versa
so as for you....im sure some post here might make u and other MU fans uneasy...
even i myself at times felt that some Arsenal fans are behaving wrongly at times....
having said that, these badass people...is what makes the ball goes round... laugh.gif
without some of these blacksheep in each clubs....everything will be to peaceful
thats why we have intense fan's rivalry.....we love football rclxm9.gif
but chill,im sure there are many MU fans there that knows how to think well and post rationally..


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my post being deleted?y?im not doing anything wrong also..haihhh
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I can't believe some of you are saying that we're unsporting, have some of you even went to our thread?
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hello...unsporting in pitch. Not fans problem. Look at how scholes, CR7 and vidic tackles.
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hello...unsporting in pitch. Not fans problem. Look at how scholes, CR7 and vidic tackles.
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in a better manner,maybe i shud say they are frustrated...well it might happpen to any players...so...erm forget about it
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my post being deleted?y?im not doing anything wrong also..haihhh
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Your siggie shows you as a Chelsea fan bringing a post over from Manc's thread into Arsenal's topic....so what gives?
Either you retort back at your own topic or their topic, why Arsenal? Trying to create another flaming session?

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in a better manner,maybe i shud say they are frustrated...well it might happpen to any players...so...erm forget about it
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the same reason i wanted manu to win last year. i want arsenal to be the first london club to win the cl XD
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hehe.. too bad about the final. i wouldnt want manu to win coz they'd become the first team to win back to back cl. that would be unbearable  tongue.gif

the same reason i wanted manu to win last year. i want arsenal to be the first london club to win the cl XD
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hehe.. too bad about the final. i wouldnt want manu to win coz they'd become the first team to win back to back cl. that would be unbearable  tongue.gif

the same reason i wanted manu to win last year. i want arsenal to be the first london club to win the cl XD
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From wht i experience, kopities kena the most. Kesian. Manu fans keep on taunting Liv for not reaching the final like they. Strange, i tot the game was between Barca and Manu. Why Arsenal and Liv fans are the victims? lol. Mayb the reality is too hard to bite? Then grow some teeth babies.
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we all stand a better chance beating chelsea now coz guus wont be there next season.. guus is imo the best manager tactically
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QUOTE(kimhoong @ May 28 2009, 05:25 AM)

For other fans - PLEASE DO NOT BASH THE WHOLE ARSENAL FANS IF THERE IS ONE OR TWO MEMBERS HERE HAVE OFFENDED YOU
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p/s: makakeke
hmm,every clubs has their own blacksheep fans
sometimes when u bump into some of them.....some may instantly make decisions blindly,judging things to fast....not knowing there are also good material fans out there.
Mu has some,we have some,liv has some and same goes for the other clubs..
they are definitely badass people....but they have their pro's as well,explained later  tongue.gif
im sure in every club thread, surely there are some post that make others unhappy....
ive seen some post that i really dislike and of course vice versa
so as for you....im sure some post here might make u and other MU fans uneasy...
even i myself at times felt that some Arsenal fans are behaving wrongly at times....
having said that, these badass people...is what makes the ball goes round... laugh.gif
without some of these blacksheep in each clubs....everything will be to peaceful
thats why we have intense fan's rivalry.....we love football  rclxm9.gif
but chill,im sure there are many MU fans there that knows how to think well and post rationally..
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QUOTE(aladdin @ May 28 2009, 05:33 AM)
hello...unsporting in pitch. Not fans problem. Look at how scholes, CR7 and vidic tackles.
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They've been aggresive players all this while, mate. We're a team from the English league and we don't play like wusses. I bet you wished you have the likes of Vieira, Keown, etc back in the Arsenal squad.

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QUOTE(Alternation @ May 28 2009, 05:40 AM)
From wht i experience, kopities kena the most. Kesian. Manu fans keep on taunting Liv for not reaching the final like they. Strange, i tot the game was between Barca and Manu. Why Arsenal and Liv fans are the victims? lol. Mayb the reality is too hard to bite? Then grow some teeth babies.
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i think kim hoong just state that dun bash the who team when u just see a small group of fans whiing outside coz they are babies here??
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QUOTE(kezman @ May 28 2009, 05:31 AM)
my post being deleted?y?im not doing anything wrong also..haihhh
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its like dat wan la...sigh...
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QUOTE(Alternation @ May 28 2009, 05:40 AM)
From wht i experience, kopities kena the most. Kesian. Manu fans keep on taunting Liv for not reaching the final like they. Strange, i tot the game was between Barca and Manu. Why Arsenal and Liv fans are the victims? lol. Mayb the reality is too hard to bite? Then grow some teeth babies.
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Pool and United had more scores to settle. That's why the rivalry is more intense.
Arsenal topic got highlighted tonight because someone started the taunting here and got spotted by United's fan. wink.gif

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QUOTE(Makakeke @ May 28 2009, 05:42 AM)
Good post, I understand about the minority bad apples in this forum, but I can see you're a good apple. Peace.
likewise, despite this lost for you guys tonight
overall performance this season is still good...won some trophies...did the double some say treble
and nth can take that fact away from you guys nod.gif
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QUOTE(Alternation @ May 28 2009, 05:40 AM)
From wht i experience, kopities kena the most. Kesian. Manu fans keep on taunting Liv for not reaching the final like they. Strange, i tot the game was between Barca and Manu. Why Arsenal and Liv fans are the victims? lol. Mayb the reality is too hard to bite? Then grow some teeth babies.
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the more they do this showed the reality is indeed hard to bite...

they can find almost everything to bash...but certainly not tonight's match which they played so well...for the first 9 mins.

believe in karma...learn to respect others.


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the more they do this showed the reality is indeed hard to bite...

they can find almost everything to bash...but certainly not tonight's match which they played so well...for the first 9 mins.

believe in karma...learn to respect others.
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TO THE SANE MAN UTD FANS WHO DROPPED BY AND CHIT CHAT...RESPECT. u guys were cool.

at least u leave ur thread to check others out n give opinions...=)

I am harsh a moment ago coz i cant contain my joy... but ahhh...talk cock onli la

cheers!

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Pool and United had more scores to settle. That's why the rivalry is more intense.
Arsenal topic got highlighted tonight because someone started the taunting here and got spotted by United's fan. wink.gif
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who on earth ask u guys to bang 4 nil eh laugh.gif Neway tht was highly entertaining, so was tonite whistling.gif
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Henry u got your CL medal already, so lets come home to Arsenal and play great football next season =P
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As I much as I support freedom of speech and LYN R&R, I still find myself feeling disappointed with some FL members.

We cannot deny that LYN R&R have its loopholes and does not cover EVERYTHING - especially in FL because of the high emotion involvement. Harsh words, taunting, (sometimes) name-calling etc are still rampant in FL.

Although some of these are not set in the R&R, I always think that sport is all about RESPECT and DIGNITY. Whatever achievements you want to see in your team are all about these two reasons. I wonder why some fans just do not understand what is RESPECT is and what is DIGNITY is.

Everyone has his/her own way to support a team but for me, to be respected, you have to respect others first.

Oh btw, you do not get RESPECT by taunting, swearing, name-calling etc... these will only make things worse.
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gosh... went to kayu to watch the match...the whole place was covered with devils fans... only a few barca fans and then got the neutrals like me...

i thought barca were lucky in the beginning cause valdes was a whole bundle of nervers, as were the rest of the back 4, especially in the initial stages. they were really fortunate to survive the first 9 minutes with the score 0 - 0. however, once they weathered the defensive storm, they showed what they could do with their attacking dearth. honestly, in terms of beautiful football, barca showed what it's all about: confidence (sometimes bordering on arrogant... heheh), precision passing, and absolutely lethal. arsenal would do well to take a few pages out of guardiola's book about how to make a very lethal attack compensate for a shaky back 4.

i dearly wanted henry to score because it would mean so much to him, but he missed the best chance when he was 1-on-1 with van der sar. speaking of VDS, i blame him for getting beaten at his near post for the first goal. the second goal was a total stunner, from one of the shortest players on the pitch no less.

i was talking to a united friend who was asking me what was the difference between united and barca (since barca seemed to be playing so well). i told him, the difference is: iniesta and messi. those two fellas really ran the show yesterday. and they also ran united ragged.

all in all, i felt the best team won, and i'm really happy for henry that he finally won his CL medal that is missing from his trophy cabinet. at the same time i feel so jealous because i so wish it was the arsenal team up there.... sigh...
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"You always remember winners. Sometimes you can play good football but if you don't bring back silverware it doesn't count."-T.Henry

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QUOTE(amalost @ May 28 2009, 10:15 AM)
"You always remember winners. Sometimes you can play good football but if you don't bring back silverware it doesn't count."-T.Henry

its sounds like it for arsenal lol
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Sad but true. In the future ppl will say Ars is once a great team and play beautiful football. But, the words will stop spreading when ppl getting older because lesser story are tolds. The memorable events will slowly fade away in time. Silverware however, will always remains and crafted in history.

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QUOTE(lostasylum @ May 28 2009, 09:56 AM)
gosh... went to kayu to watch the match...the whole place was covered with devils fans... only a few barca fans and then got the neutrals like me...

i thought barca were lucky in the beginning cause valdes was a whole bundle of nervers, as were the rest of the back 4, especially in the initial stages. they were really fortunate to survive the first 9 minutes with the score 0 - 0. however, once they weathered the defensive storm, they showed what they could do with their attacking dearth. honestly, in terms of beautiful football, barca showed what it's all about: confidence (sometimes bordering on arrogant... heheh), precision passing, and absolutely lethal. arsenal would do well to take a few pages out of guardiola's book about how to make a very lethal attack compensate for a shaky back 4.

i dearly wanted henry to score because it would mean so much to him, but he missed the best chance when he was 1-on-1 with van der sar. speaking of VDS, i blame him for getting beaten at his near post for the first goal. the second goal was a total stunner, from one of the shortest players on the pitch no less.

i was talking to a united friend who was asking me what was the difference between united and barca (since barca seemed to be playing so well). i told him, the difference is: iniesta and messi. those two fellas really ran the show yesterday. and they also ran united ragged.

all in all, i felt the best team won, and i'm really happy for henry that he finally won his CL medal that is missing from his trophy cabinet. at the same time i feel so jealous because i so wish it was the arsenal team up there.... sigh...
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Your post has pretty much covered the whole game as a NEUTRAL biggrin.gif

Personally, I think it's about:
a) A few of Barca players were on form (Iniesta, Messi, Puyol, Pique etc)
b) A few of MU players were off form (~ better not state tongue.gif )

From what I saw, both teams defended well with little openings for clear cut chance. Special credits to Barca for their makeshift defence.

On the offensive sides, MU lost their edges compared to Barca.

No doubt, the best team has won. I believe even MU fans agree so.


Back to Arsenal, we have the qualities and potential to play like Barca. We have the passing, the running but there are 3 parts that we do not have:
1) Dribbling
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3) Finishing

I will only concentrate on the Defence part. From last game, I noticed that to have good defense, NOT ONLY physical and understanding are important, I found something more than that. It's ROLE MODEL ! During the game, Puyol was everywhere and throwing tackles and challenges to whoever in his sight! Looked scary to me! As you see, both CBs and LB were not first teamers but yet, they played well. What I can say is that Puyol lead the team by example. As simple as that!
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It's painful we saw our team lost in semi. Even more at final. Winning all the way only to lose in final. Heart broken feeling, that is the 'beauty' of football.
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same as Tony Adams?
we need hard tackling players like Keown and Adams.. cry.gif
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QUOTE(Liuism @ May 28 2009, 11:04 AM)
same as Tony Adams?
we need hard tackling players like Keown and Adams..  cry.gif
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King Titi finally get his UCL medal and guess what he already complete his grandslam title in club and internationa level rclxms.gif

It should be nice if he decide to return to Arsenal, hail the king Henry notworthy.gif
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Grats to Barca and especially Henry.

He terrorise the whole defence of ManU with Eto and Messi together.

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oh man..another youngsters..when will wenger buy a 'man'..
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1-I believe wenger bought them for reserve team purpose. Who knows they could be another ronaldo, messi of fab?
2-Also I believe wenger will buy someone 'man enuf' that will go straight to the first team. laugh.gif Juz wait..

ps-i have formula to find best player..

buy players from team that defeated us...like rory delap

like ronaldo who scored 2 goals towards MU..

later MU bought ronaldo. Sometime it works~ laugh.gif

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QUOTE(angel82 @ May 28 2009, 11:45 AM)
King Titi finally get his UCL medal and guess what he already complete his grandslam title in club and internationa level  rclxms.gif

It should be nice if he decide to return to Arsenal, hail the king Henry  notworthy.gif
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Actually I talked on this with my buddy yesterday. Guess what, to complete his "grandslam", Henry should return to Juventus (or other Italian club) and win all the Italian titles and cups rclxm9.gif

If he could do so, he would have won EVERYTHING in the leagues throughout his career.

Edited - oops, I have forgotten the French League as he started his career in Monaco

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WAH.......... today is a great day....... MU LOST Finally !! History wont repeat !! QUATRIPLE ?? smile.gif


Added on May 28, 2009, 12:13 pmkim hoong, i went for the match in UK.. damn nice dude, free can go there. but too bad i have to go to theatre of dream to watch Mu VS Arsenal ( 0-0 ) as majority of my friends are MU fans. i tell you all, the feel totally different.............

next trip will go to EMIRATES.

bro, want me to reserve one jersey for you? wat size you wear?

haha

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QUOTE(kimhoong @ May 28 2009, 10:52 AM)
No doubt, the best team has won. I believe even MU fans agree so.
Back to Arsenal, we have the qualities and potential to play like Barca. We have the passing, the running but there are 3 parts that we do not have:
1) Dribbling
2) Defence
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Very true what you said.

The dribbling we have probably addressed with the arrival of Arshavin. Samir Nasri also possesses skills on the ball, albeit without the pace. Walcott has the speed but not the tricks, which may also be useful especially if coming on as a sub.

As for finishing... Well RVP seems to have a thing for heavy metal last year, while Ade and Bendtner needs to improve on their consistency. Don't forget we have Eduardo coming back and Vela's cool finishing to boot, so on this part, I'm pretty confident that when on form, we have one of the best strike force in the country.

As you said, the major problem is defence and leadership. Looking at our targets (Hangeland, Vermaelen, etc), none of them are said to be leaders and the likes of Kolo and Gallas are not the Puyol/Adams/Terry variety. My suggestion is instead of looking around for a leader, we should just go back to basics and get ourselves organised. Steve Bouldey has shown what he can do with our Youth squad with such a good record of 'Goals Againts' during the season and the run in to the cup win. It would be great if he can double up as a defence coach for the first team.
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QUOTE(little_mozart @ May 28 2009, 11:55 AM)
1-I believe wenger bought them for reserve team purpose. Who knows they could be another ronaldo, messi of fab?
2-Also I believe wenger will buy someone 'man enuf' that will go straight to the first team. laugh.gif Juz wait..

ps-i have formula to find best player..

buy players from team that defeated us...like rory delap

like ronaldo who scored 2 goals towards MU..

later MU bought ronaldo. Sometime it works~ laugh.gif
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i know..and he's done that for years..plus,the new additions are just 15 years old.i dunno how many years will we sing "next year" chants..

QUOTE(kimhoong @ May 28 2009, 12:00 PM)
Actually I talked on this with my buddy yesterday. Guess what, to complete his "grandslam", Henry should return to Juventus (or other Italian club) and win all the Italian titles and cups rclxm9.gif

If he could do so, he would have won EVERYTHING in the leagues throughout his career.

Edited - oops, I have forgotten the French League as he started his career in Monaco
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if he really do that,he's a real legend.who could have done that?even pele didn't win EPL.lol
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QUOTE(garagesell @ May 28 2009, 12:04 PM)
WAH.......... today is a great day....... MU LOST Finally !! History wont repeat !! QUATRIPLE ??  smile.gif


Added on May 28, 2009, 12:13 pmkim hoong, i went for the match in UK.. damn nice dude, free can go there. but too bad i have to go to theatre of dream to watch Mu VS Arsenal ( 0-0 ) as majority of my friends are MU fans. i tell you all, the feel totally different.............

next trip will go to EMIRATES.

bro, want me to reserve one jersey for you? wat size you wear?

haha
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aiya everyone's a ManU fan in malaysia... if u know wat i mean yawn.gif
for me manu depend on CR too much, and the players wasn't at their best at all.
didn't even notice rooney at all on second half. And barca's play and passing was godlike!!
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aiya everyone's a ManU fan in malaysia... if u know wat i mean  yawn.gif
for me manu depend on CR too much, and the players wasn't at their best at all.
didn't even notice rooney at all on second half. And barca's play and passing was godlike!!
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That is what i want to tell already.. maybe if arsenal in FINAL..

we can become EUROPE CHAMPION !!!

i believe we can play like barca next season..

trust me !!
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i agree with one of the poster, lorik cana would provide the defence + leadership part. but is that achievable?
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Feels good mang seeing Henry got what he wanted.

Please come back to Arsenal. rclxms.gif
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Actually when Barcelona lift the trophy, Arsenal fans should be proud and also worried.

Proud because Henry in the winning team.

Worry because Henry prove to the Arsenal team, changing to "better" team can make their dream come true (Champion League Winner Medal). A few player who is ambitious surely will noticed that.
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QUOTE(thteong82 @ May 28 2009, 01:38 PM)
Actually when Barcelona lift the trophy, Arsenal fans should be proud and also worried.

Proud because Henry in the winning team.

Worry because Henry prove to the Arsenal team, changing to "better" team can make their dream come true (Champion League Winner Medal). A few player who is ambitious surely will noticed that.
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this one cannot control lo...for ambitious player maybe will do an "henry"...but so far so good...not until the season starts, all players still intact.

speaking of loyalty, ironically some players can pledge loyalty, but set their sights on trophies and big money move...

sigh kids nowadays...
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QUOTE(thteong82 @ May 28 2009, 01:38 PM)
Actually when Barcelona lift the trophy, Arsenal fans should be proud and also worried.

Proud because Henry in the winning team.

Worry because Henry prove to the Arsenal team, changing to "better" team can make their dream come true (Champion League Winner Medal). A few player who is ambitious surely will noticed that.
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That depends on how one define what's the quality of a "better" team as there can be only 1 CL winner in every season anyway.

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WAH.......... today is a great day....... MU LOST Finally !! History wont repeat !! QUATRIPLE ??  smile.gif


Added on May 28, 2009, 12:13 pmkim hoong, i went for the match in UK.. damn nice dude, free can go there. but too bad i have to go to theatre of dream to watch Mu VS Arsenal ( 0-0 ) as majority of my friends are MU fans. i tell you all, the feel totally different.............

next trip will go to EMIRATES.

bro, want me to reserve one jersey for you? wat size you wear?

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As much as I am glad for Thierry to have finally won the Champions League and still love him to bits I can't help but feel that it will be a huge step back if Arsene sells say Ad or Van P and brings back Titi. Sill a good player without a doubt but its evident the years are starting to creep up on him. To be honest I'd prefer Van P, Ade and even Bendtner to a certain extent to start ahead of the current Thierry any day.
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Arsenal & Chelsea To Join Spurs In Race For Serie A Striker?
Arsenal and Chelsea are set to enter the race for Lazio striker Goran Pandev, according to reports in Italy, with the Macedonian International also understood to be a target for Premier League rivals Tottenham Hotspur.

Reports last week linked 25-year-old Pandev with a switch from the Stadio Olimpico. Spurs manager Harry Redknapp said to be keen on bringing the striker to White Hart Lane, with the former Portsmouth boss expected to have a massive shake up in the striker’s department at the North London club this summer.

Now it is believed that Gunners boss Arsene Wenger is also keeping tabs on the Biancoceleste striker. The Frenchman seeing Pandev as a possible replacement for Emmanuel Adebayor, who is being heavily tipped to leave the Emirates Stadium in the close-season.

Chelsea are also tracking the situation at Lazio with Pandev, with the Blues still facing the possibility of losing Ivory Coast International Didier Drogba this summer. Pandev understood to be in line to replace the Ivorian, should Drogba leave Stamford Bridge.

Italian giants Juventus are also claimed to hold an interest in Pandev, who has just a year left to run on his present deal at Le Aquile and is valued in the region of £12million. Lazio reportedly needing to offload the striker, who has found the net 51 times in 134 Serie A appearances for the Rome side in order to cover some of the expected €20million outlay for Argentine Mauro Zarate.



Arsenal & Spurs Target Asks To Leave Bordeaux
Marouane Chamakh at Bordeaux has revealed that he has asked to be allowed to leave the Ligue 1 side this summer, with the striker a target for Premier League rivals Tottenham Hotspur and Arsenal.

25-year-old Chamakh has been in fine form for Laurent Blanc’s Bordeaux side this campaign, with the Moroccan International heavily linked with a summer move to North London. Both the Gunners and Spurs understood to be keen on bringing Chamakh to the Premiership.

Despite Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger playing down the speculation recently linking Chamakh with a move to the Emirates Stadium. The Frenchman did reveal his admiration for the Moroccan striker and it is felt in the British press that a move to Arsenal is likely.

However, Tottenham manager Harry Redknapp is also keen to add Chamakh to his squad at White Hart Lane, with a major shake up of the frontline at Tottenham expected this summer. Chamakh stating recently that while a move to a club like Arsenal would be a miracle, the striker felt that a move to an up and coming team like Spurs would be more realistic.


Rennes Confirm That Arsenal & Everton Target Can Leave
Premier League clubs Arsenal and Everton will be on red alert after Pierre Dreossi, manager at Ligue 1 club Rennes confirmed that midfielder Stephane Mbia will be allowed to leave should a suitable offer arrive.

23-year-old Mbia had been heavily linked with a move to the Premiership last summer, with both the Gunners and the Toffees keen on the Cameroon International. However, Les Rouge et Noirs refused to let the midfield enforcer leave, but did agree that Mbia could leave this summer.

Indeed Mbia revealed the agreement last week, with it understood that the midfielder has an exit clause of £6million to allow him to leave the Route de Lorient.

Mbia said last week: “I had an agreement to leave at the end of the season if all parties are happy, so I can’t say yet what will happen.

“There are many good clubs linked according to the press so let’s wait and see. The season is almost finished.”

Dreossi confirmed that Mbia will be allowed to leave Rennes should a suitable bid arrive, but also stated that there had been no firm offers for the midfielder, who has been capped 12 times by Cameroon.

“Mbia is the only player we are willing to let leave if we get a suitable offer, which is not the case so far,” Rennes manager Pierre Dreossi told FranceFootball.

Under contract at Rennes until the summer of 2011, Mbia has played 124 Ligue 1 games for the French club since arriving as a teenager from the Kadji Sports Academy in 2003. The same academy, which produced Barcelona star Samuel Eto’o.


Arsenal To Turn Attention To Villa Target After Hangeland Pledges To Stay At Fulham?
Norwegian International Brede Hangeland has declared that he has no intention of leaving Fulham. After persistent speculation linking the central-defender with a move to Premier League rivals Arsenal, which could see the Gunners move for Villa target Thomas Vermaelen.

27-year-old Hangeland is understood to be a main transfer target for Gunners manager Arsene Wenger, with the Frenchman keen to lure the giant defender to the Emirates Stadium. In order to add some steel to the heart of the defence at the North London side, which Wenger sees as the main cause of yet another trophy-less season at the Premiership club.

However, despite Arsenal believed to have made an offer of £8million for Hangeland, who cost Cottagers boss Roy Hodgson just £4million in January 2008. Hodgson is desperate to keep his star performer, with Hangeland revealing that he wants to agree a new deal at Fulham and stay at Craven Cottage for a long time.

“We have been going in the right direction from the time I came here in January last year,” Hangeland said.

“Hopefully we can agree a new contract, and then I’ll stay here for a long time.”

This will come as good news for Fulham fans, who are set to follow the Cottagers in the Europa Cup next season after their best ever effort in the top-flight, which saw Hodgson’s side finish seventh.

Wenger could test the commitment of the Arsenal board by asking them to make an improved offer for Hangeland, but it is felt that the Frenchman could now decide to make a swoop for Vermaelen at Ajax, who is believed to be on the radar of Villans manager Martin O'Neill.


Senegal International Set To Snub Arsenal
Senegal International Abdoulaye Faye has insisted that he sees his future at the Britannia Stadium with Stoke City. Despite recent reports linking Premier League giants Arsenal with the former Bolton Wanderers player.

31-year-old Faye emerged as a shock transfer target for Gunners boss Arsene Wenger last week, with the Frenchman understood to be keen to add the central defender to his squad at the Emirates. Wenger declaring recently that he only intends to add players, who are ready to play in the Premiership this summer, with Faye fitting the bill.

A £5million swoop had been mooted by the North London club for Faye, but the defender, who only arrived at the Potters last summer from Newcastle United has declared his love for Stoke and would not be interested in a summer switch to Wenger’s side.

“Arsenal is one of the flagship teams of The Premier League,” Faye told 24sn.

“They play very good football but they do not play physical and I am happy at Stoke City.

“I would stay for the rest of my career. I am very happy at Stoke, I adore the supporters and the coach is great. I want to stay here because I love Stoke City.”

Faye has featured in 34 of Stoke’s 37 games in the Potters debutante Premier League campaign, with manager Tony Pulis sure to be heartened to hear the comments of one of Stoke’s pivotal players in ensuring Premiership football at the Britannia next season.

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i am proud and happy that titi finally won his cl.. just a little wistful.. wish he had won it with us =( ah well, grats to barca anyway, i didn;t want mu to win. just one bad thing abt barca winning... i forsee this happening soon:

reporter: so cesc, what do u think abt the barcelona team now that they won the treble?
cesc: oh, i think barcelona are a great team. they have a great manager and have exciting players...

headlines the next day: Arsenal skipper wants to move to barca!

cesc: wth... not again! rclxub.gif

lol. i am not surprised out first segning is a 15 year old.. wat next? 12 year old?
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QUOTE(kaka91 @ May 28 2009, 02:31 PM)
i am proud and happy that titi finally won his cl.. just a little wistful.. wish he had won it with us =( ah well, grats to barca anyway, i didn;t want mu to win. just one bad thing abt barca winning... i forsee this happening soon:

reporter: so cesc, what do u think abt the barcelona team now that they won the treble?
cesc: oh, i think barcelona are a great team. they have a great manager and have exciting players...

headlines the next day: Arsenal skipper wants to move to barca!

cesc: wth... not again! rclxub.gif

lol. i am not surprised out first segning is a 15 year old.. wat next? 12 year old?
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QUOTE(kaka91 @ May 28 2009, 02:31 PM)
i am proud and happy that titi finally won his cl.. just a little wistful.. wish he had won it with us =( ah well, grats to barca anyway, i didn;t want mu to win. just one bad thing abt barca winning... i forsee this happening soon:

reporter: so cesc, what do u think abt the barcelona team now that they won the treble?
cesc: oh, i think barcelona are a great team. they have a great manager and have exciting players...

headlines the next day: Arsenal skipper wants to move to barca!

cesc: wth... not again! rclxub.gif

lol. i am not surprised out first segning is a 15 year old.. wat next? 12 year old?
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QUOTE(slcroy @ May 28 2009, 02:28 PM)
Arsenal & Chelsea To Join Spurs In Race For Serie A Striker?
Arsenal and Chelsea are set to enter the race for Lazio striker Goran Pandev, according to reports in Italy, with the Macedonian International also understood to be a target for Premier League rivals Tottenham Hotspur.

Reports last week linked 25-year-old Pandev with a switch from the Stadio Olimpico. Spurs manager Harry Redknapp said to be keen on bringing the striker to White Hart Lane, with the former Portsmouth boss expected to have a massive shake up in the striker’s department at the North London club this summer.

Now it is believed that Gunners boss Arsene Wenger is also keeping tabs on the Biancoceleste striker. The Frenchman seeing Pandev as a possible replacement for Emmanuel Adebayor, who is being heavily tipped to leave the Emirates Stadium in the close-season.

Chelsea are also tracking the situation at Lazio with Pandev, with the Blues still facing the possibility of losing Ivory Coast International Didier Drogba this summer. Pandev understood to be in line to replace the Ivorian, should Drogba leave Stamford Bridge.

Italian giants Juventus are also claimed to hold an interest in Pandev, who has just a year left to run on his present deal at Le Aquile and is valued in the region of £12million. Lazio reportedly needing to offload the striker, who has found the net 51 times in 134 Serie A appearances for the Rome side in order to cover some of the expected €20million outlay for Argentine Mauro Zarate.

Arsenal & Spurs Target Asks To Leave Bordeaux
Marouane Chamakh at Bordeaux has revealed that he has asked to be allowed to leave the Ligue 1 side this summer, with the striker a target for Premier League rivals Tottenham Hotspur and Arsenal.

25-year-old Chamakh has been in fine form for Laurent Blanc’s Bordeaux side this campaign, with the Moroccan International heavily linked with a summer move to North London. Both the Gunners and Spurs understood to be keen on bringing Chamakh to the Premiership.

Despite Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger playing down the speculation recently linking Chamakh with a move to the Emirates Stadium. The Frenchman did reveal his admiration for the Moroccan striker and it is felt in the British press that a move to Arsenal is likely.

However, Tottenham manager Harry Redknapp is also keen to add Chamakh to his squad at White Hart Lane, with a major shake up of the frontline at Tottenham expected this summer. Chamakh stating recently that while a move to a club like Arsenal would be a miracle, the striker felt that a move to an up and coming team like Spurs would be more realistic.
Rennes Confirm That Arsenal & Everton Target Can Leave
Premier League clubs Arsenal and Everton will be on red alert after Pierre Dreossi, manager at Ligue 1 club Rennes confirmed that midfielder Stephane Mbia will be allowed to leave should a suitable offer arrive.

23-year-old Mbia had been heavily linked with a move to the Premiership last summer, with both the Gunners and the Toffees keen on the Cameroon International. However, Les Rouge et Noirs refused to let the midfield enforcer leave, but did agree that Mbia could leave this summer.

Indeed Mbia revealed the agreement last week, with it understood that the midfielder has an exit clause of £6million to allow him to leave the Route de Lorient.

Mbia said last week: “I had an agreement to leave at the end of the season if all parties are happy, so I can’t say yet what will happen.

“There are many good clubs linked according to the press so let’s wait and see. The season is almost finished.”

Dreossi confirmed that Mbia will be allowed to leave Rennes should a suitable bid arrive, but also stated that there had been no firm offers for the midfielder, who has been capped 12 times by Cameroon.

“Mbia is the only player we are willing to let leave if we get a suitable offer, which is not the case so far,” Rennes manager Pierre Dreossi told FranceFootball.

Under contract at Rennes until the summer of 2011, Mbia has played 124 Ligue 1 games for the French club since arriving as a teenager from the Kadji Sports Academy in 2003. The same academy, which produced Barcelona star Samuel Eto’o.
Arsenal To Turn Attention To Villa Target After Hangeland Pledges To Stay At Fulham?
Norwegian International Brede Hangeland has declared that he has no intention of leaving Fulham. After persistent speculation linking the central-defender with a move to Premier League rivals Arsenal, which could see the Gunners move for Villa target Thomas Vermaelen.

27-year-old Hangeland is understood to be a main transfer target for Gunners manager Arsene Wenger, with the Frenchman keen to lure the giant defender to the Emirates Stadium. In order to add some steel to the heart of the defence at the North London side, which Wenger sees as the main cause of yet another trophy-less season at the Premiership club.

However, despite Arsenal believed to have made an offer of £8million for Hangeland, who cost Cottagers boss Roy Hodgson just £4million in January 2008. Hodgson is desperate to keep his star performer, with Hangeland revealing that he wants to agree a new deal at Fulham and stay at Craven Cottage for a long time.

“We have been going in the right direction from the time I came here in January last year,” Hangeland said.

“Hopefully we can agree a new contract, and then I’ll stay here for a long time.”

This will come as good news for Fulham fans, who are set to follow the Cottagers in the Europa Cup next season after their best ever effort in the top-flight, which saw Hodgson’s side finish seventh.

Wenger could test the commitment of the Arsenal board by asking them to make an improved offer for Hangeland, but it is felt that the Frenchman could now decide to make a swoop for Vermaelen at Ajax, who is believed to be on the radar of Villans manager Martin O'Neill.
Senegal International Set To Snub Arsenal
Senegal International Abdoulaye Faye has insisted that he sees his future at the Britannia Stadium with Stoke City. Despite recent reports linking Premier League giants Arsenal with the former Bolton Wanderers player.

31-year-old Faye emerged as a shock transfer target for Gunners boss Arsene Wenger last week, with the Frenchman understood to be keen to add the central defender to his squad at the Emirates. Wenger declaring recently that he only intends to add players, who are ready to play in the Premiership this summer, with Faye fitting the bill.

A £5million swoop had been mooted by the North London club for Faye, but the defender, who only arrived at the Potters last summer from Newcastle United has declared his love for Stoke and would not be interested in a summer switch to Wenger’s side.

“Arsenal is one of the flagship teams of The Premier League,” Faye told 24sn.

“They play very good football but they do not play physical and I am happy at Stoke City.

“I would stay for the rest of my career. I am very happy at Stoke, I adore the supporters and the coach is great. I want to stay here because I love Stoke City.”

Faye has featured in 34 of Stoke’s 37 games in the Potters debutante Premier League campaign, with manager Tony Pulis sure to be heartened to hear the comments of one of Stoke’s pivotal players in ensuring Premiership football at the Britannia next season.

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^ i dont see lorik cana anywhere tho in that list. have we moved on?
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need wait another 4 months... do u guys think Wenger would never go for big name for another season..? Any guess on any important player would leaving?
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Pandev is good in FM2009 icon_rolleyes.gif . Haven't seen much in Serie A, but I remember he looked good playing for a crappy Macedonia side. IINM, he's best position is playing 'in the hole' (I snicker everytime I see this line). At the moment, everyone from Arshavin, Nasri, Van Persie, Bendtner, Cesc wants to/can play there. Don't think it will happen.

Kinda disappointed to hear that about Hangeland. I feel he's the missing cog in our defence right now and we'd definitely address a lot of our concerns from this past season if we sign him. Its hard to tell if its agent talk to up his price, or the big guy is just loyal and repaying the debt he owes Fulham and Roy Hodgson. If its the latter, it makes it even more sad we can't get him because loyalty is not one of the traits associated with a lot of our players the past couple of years.

Faye? For 5 million?? This one a bit far fetched la I feel. We've already got Alex Song, who's much younger and has Champs League experience already this year. If we really are going to buy Def Mid, we should be looking at established Internationals and not ageing nomads.

Not too familiar with those other players though... But if I had a pick on who to sign, I'd be Hangeland and either Lorik Cana or Jeremy Toulalalalalalalalan. But of course, I'm not the manager so blergh... shakehead.gif

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I too am not too sure about Pandev. All I know each time I start a new career in FM 09 he ends up at Chelsea sooner or later lol.

I don't rate Toulalan at all to be honest.

As for Hangeland I'm not sure but he seems to have a bad game each time I see him play. Then again I've only watched a few games involving Fulham though....
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toulalan is good. he is underated.
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need wait another 4 months... do u guys think Wenger would never go for big name for another season..? Any guess on any important player would leaving?
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I too am not too sure about Pandev. All I know each time I start a new career in FM 09 he ends up at Chelsea sooner or later lol.

I don't rate Toulalan at all to be honest.

As for Hangeland I'm not sure but he seems to have a bad game each time I see him play. Then again I've only watched a few games involving Fulham though....
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Loric Cana seems to be ideal to add steal to our team. He plays the whole season without injuring himself with those massive tackles. Pure adatanium.

Since our budget is limited, we dont need another striker. Even if we sold Ade, we still have RVP, Vela, Bentner, Eduador. If we are opting for 4 -3 -3 or 4-5-1, still we have enough talents at midfield and it leaves the 4 forward to fight for 1-2 available slots.

If we are able to get a CB, we able to have an option to push toure as a DM. If we get Loric, his steel enable him to play as backup CB or competing a slot with Song. If we are playing 4 -3-3, Song might need to swap around with Denilson whereby Cesc and Steel Cana would be our regulars. Rosisky and Walcott will rotate with Arshavin and Nasri.

Too many IF. Thats wat happen when we have 4 months act like a manager. LOL
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Stuart Pearce has won the battle for Theo Walcott.

Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger fears his winger will end up shattered if he plays for the Under-21s AND the full England team this summer.

Walcott, 20, had already made the senior squad for World Cup games with Kazakhstan and Andorra.

And Under-21 chief Pearce yesterday picked Walcott for the Euro Championship in Sweden along with Kieran Gibbs.

- Robin van Persie says he was delighted with his personal form at Arsenal this season.

The Holland international striker said: "I have done well. I have played 44 games, including 38 as a starting player. In a tough competition like the English one, this is very good. Moreover, I had more goals and assists then ever before.

"I was only missing a trophy."

- Arsenal striker Emmanuel Adebayor says he will stay at the club if manager Arsene Wenger wants him to.

The Togo goal scorer has been linked with several clubs for a number of months but says he is happy at Emirates Stadium.

“I have always said that I feel good here,” he said.

“I have no idea of what Wenger has in mind. He is the one who takes decisions and for sure if he tells me that he does not count on me anymore, then I will search for a new team, but if he wants me to stay I will stay.”

- Arsenal are set to unveil their first signing of the summer after the club agreed a fee for Cheltenham's promising youngster Jamie Edge.

The 15-year-old midfielder has been on Arsene Wenger's radar for some time and recently returned from an under-16 tournament in Italy where he represented the Gunners against some of Europe's elite teams.

Cheltenham chairman Paul Baker said: "We have reached a financial agreement with Arsenal for the transfer of Jamie Edge.

"We believe it is an excellent deal for the club both in terms of the money we will receive this season and next and further payments that become due depending upon the progress Jamie makes at both club and international level.

"It is a particularly exciting opportunity for Jamie who now has to agree personal terms with Arsenal before the deal can be confirmed."

The north Londoners look set to further bolster their ranks with the signing of FC Zurich centre-half Martin Angha.

The defender watched from the stands as Arsenal thumped Stoke 4-1 in their final home game of the season.

He then featured for their Under-15's side in the win over Chelsea earlier this week.

A nominal fee will change hands between the two clubs which will allow the 15-year-old to go straight into the Under-16 squad for next season.

- Cheltenham youngster Jamie Edge is soon to become an Arsenal player.

The 15-year old has been watched by the Gunners for some time now and after representing the club in an U16 tournament in Italy, will make the move to Emirates Stadium.

"Cheltenham Town have reached a financial agreement with Arsenal for the transfer of Jamie Edge,” Cheltenham chairman Paul Baker told the club’s official website.

"We believe it is an excellent deal for the club both in terms of the money we will receive this season and next and further payments that become due depending upon the progress Jamie makes at both club and international level.

"It is a particularly exciting opportunity for Jamie who now has to agree personal terms with Arsenal before the deal can be confirmed."

- Arsenal are eyeing Crystal Palace fullback Nathaniel Clyne.

The Croydon Advertiser says Gunners boss Arsene Wenger has identified the 18-year-old as a possible summer target after having the teenager watched on numerous occasions at the back end of last season.

A bid in the region of £4million for one of the hottest properties outside the Premier League is likely to be enough to persuade Palace to part with the full-back.

- Arsenal youth boss Steve Bould hailed his young players after their FA Youth Cup second-leg victory at Liverpool this week.

Bould told arsenal.com: “For these kids it has topped a great, great year. We know we are not in a results environment when we set out at the start of the season, but the way they have performed all year, they have been head and shoulders above most of the other teams in the country. I think we've got excellent players and this is the icing on the cake.

“It wasn't anywhere near the level we reached on Friday but we showed our quality in a few little patches. I think we were always capable of stepping it up because Liverpool came back to 1-1 but we still got the result. It was difficult and we didn't perform at our greatest level but it didn't really matter tonight. They all tried. They did switch off a little bit but like I say it was a great result and has capped a fine season.”

- Arsenal superkid Jack Wilshere was thrilled to win the FA Youth Cup this week.

“If you think about it, we’ve been together since we were nine and we’ve wanted to win things together ever since then,” Wilshere told Arsenal.com on the Anfield turf. “Now we have gone and won the Youth Cup – it’s unbelievable.

“We knew we had the strength in depth in this team to do it and it’s just great really to win them both. We always had belief we could do it. We just carried on showing what we could do and the cups came.

“It’s great, this is basically what we’ve been working for all season. It’s just an amazing feeling.”

- Bordeaux striker Marouane Chamakh has revealed he could be on his way to Arsenal this summer.

The £8 million-rated forward said: "Yes, I'll go. I hope the leaders will show understanding.

"It is important that both parties get a fair deal for me to leave calmly. I have several contacts, particularly in England.

"There is also something with Arsenal, but there is nothing concrete."[/B]

Source: The Arsenal 49ers myspace bulletin
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Thierry Henry said there were "no words to describe" his feelings after Barcelona's UEFA Champions League win.

The French striker put in a solid performance for the Spanish giants who claimed their third European Cup crowne with a superb performance in Rome.

Goals from Samuel Eto'o and Lionel Messi were enough to secure top honours for Barca who were much the better side on Wednesday evening.

An emotional Henry told Sky Sports after the game: "It's unbelievable.
No words

"I have no words to describe what we have done this year, what we have achieved.

"No team have ever done the treble in Spain - we are the first ones to do it so it's amazing."

Henry admitted his relief in overcoming a late injury problem to feature in Rome, saying: "I wasn't going to play.

"I wanted to play," he said. "We were playing against a Manchester United side who are always difficult to beat.


Glory

"You always remember winners. Sometimes you can play good football but if you don't bring back silverware it doesn't count."


In reaction to Messi's goal, he said: "I think it was well deserved but I think throughout the whole season we won games because we were playing well. We were running and working hard.

"When people talk about Barcelona - they talk about the way we play. They forget that we put pressure on sides, in particular at the front. We fight, and we never give up."

No stranger to disappointment in Europe's elite competition, Henry reflected on his Champions League heartache with Arsenal.

"It will always remain a disappointment in my career because the club are in my heart and in my blood," he said. "Everybody knows that.

"I am happy though. For my family and the troubles I have suffered playing football. I am still alive."


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read the bold part...to whom does King Henry refer this statement?

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I'm actually happy with what we currently have at the moment and assuming everyone starts next season fit with no long term injuries we do not need to buy anyone at all apart from a defender, which is only because we are going to lose Eboue, Song, Toure and Ade to the African Cup Of Nations'. Losing Eboue, Toure and Song who can play as a defender as well would leave our defensive unit massively depleted. I won't even dare imagine who would play if either Djourou or Gallas or both gets injured assuming we don't sign anyone.


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I'm actually happy with what we currently have at the moment and assuming everyone starts next season fit with no long term injuries we do not need to buy anyone at all apart from a defender, which is only because we are going to lose Eboue, Song, Toure and Ade to the African Cup Of Nations'. Losing Eboue, Toure and Song who can play as a defender as well would leave our defensive unit massively depleted. I won't even dare imagine who would play if either Djourou or Gallas or both gets injured assuming we don't sign anyone.
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Assuming phillip "timberlake" senderos comes back and those mentioned blah for the african cup...we still need at least one or more cover-up...am gonna exclude silvestre here coz he's not good enough for arsenal...

i correct my statement...cover-up, yes. silvestre can do it...if he on form he is good...see next season. perhaps he need to adapt arsenal style though...

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QUOTE(sigheart @ May 28 2009, 06:38 PM)
I'm actually happy with what we currently have at the moment and assuming everyone starts next season fit with no long term injuries we do not need to buy anyone at all apart from a defender, which is only because we are going to lose Eboue, Song, Toure and Ade to the African Cup Of Nations'. Losing Eboue, Toure and Song who can play as a defender as well would leave our defensive unit massively depleted. I won't even dare imagine who would play if either Djourou or Gallas or both gets injured assuming we don't sign anyone.
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We still have Mr. Perak'tre brows.gif but please, i rather have our reserve CB to fill up the hole (that Norveidt dude??) . I dont know, for me, maybe silvestre would be a good backup for our wingbacks, but CB?? shakehead.gif shakehead.gif shakehead.gif


Added on May 28, 2009, 7:57 pmahh didnt see that slcroy has posted before me. I do believe that Le Boss will definitely sign a defender this summer. The signs are already clear with all the interviews and transfer rumours going on. The only thing i wonder, is this time going to be someone with experience and has been almost fully polished (andrey like signing) or just another unknown 20 years old dude who wants to prove to the world he can play football?? hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif

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We still have Mr. Perak'tre  brows.gif but please, i rather have our reserve CB to fill up the hole (that Norveidt dude??) . I dont know, for me, maybe silvestre would be a good backup for our wingbacks, but CB??  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif


Added on May 28, 2009, 7:57 pmahh didnt see that slcroy has posted before me. I do believe that Le Boss will definitely sign a defender this summer. The signs are already clear with all the interviews and transfer rumours going on. The only thing i wonder, is this time going to be someone with experience and has been almost fully polished (andrey like signing) or just another unknown 20 years old dude who wants to prove to the world he can play football??  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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well...AW have the knack of getting unpolished players, even important role like centrebacks...remember pascal cygan, oleg luzhny and igor stephanov?... they may be doing well in their respective league but failed to shine in EPL...

but i do hope this time he'll get commanding centreback to lend a feet for either gallas or toure.

i agree with another gunner who did say we have firepower for offense already... so just strengthen the defends will do.


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bit off topic but wth
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id...ccernet&cc=4716
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wow......those african fans are so hard-cored!! previously was "hang himself" suicidal case, now "ram 'em" incident.
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Can you count how many homegrown players were on the pitch for Barca? 7! Guardiola is a genius.

Man vs Baby (Evra vs Messi) and Baby won!
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Can you count how many homegrown players were on the pitch for Barca? 7! Guardiola is a genius.

Man vs Baby (Evra vs Messi) and Baby won!
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not suprising as Barca has the best youth academy there. otherwise you won't see cesc & merida being brought in.
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Congrats to Barcelona & Thiery Henry. Now we all know why Henry left Arsenal.

Hats off to Pep Guardiola. Ferguson managed the treble after many years at United but Guardiola did it in his first year. Simply amazing!!!!!

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QUOTE(waynewong79 @ May 29 2009, 12:08 AM)
not suprising as Barca has the best youth academy there. otherwise you won't see cesc & merida being brought in.
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Actually, their manager is also homegrown. So that means they also have the best "manager academy".
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QUOTE(low7 @ May 29 2009, 01:45 AM)
Congrats to Barcelona & Thiery Henry. Now we all know why Henry left Arsenal.

Hats off to Pep Guardiola. Ferguson managed the treble after many years at United but Guardiola did it in his first year. Simply amazing!!!!!
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QUOTE(BaboonZ @ May 28 2009, 10:50 PM)
Can you count how many homegrown players were on the pitch for Barca? 7! Guardiola is a genius.

Man vs Baby (Evra vs Messi) and Baby won!
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Guardiola still has a long way to go and plenty to prove before you can call him a genius or even compare him with the likes of Ferguson or perhaps even our very own Arsene for that matter. Its not that I am belittling his achievements or anything but the fact is he inherited possibly one of the best group of players in world football and the foundation of the team was basically already there when he arrived. Of course I won't deny that he still had work to do to turn one of the best group of players in world football into a winning team so credit must be given to him for that but it stops right there.
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QUOTE(waynewong79 @ May 28 2009, 09:21 PM)
wow......those african fans are so hard-cored!! previously was "hang himself" suicidal case, now "ram 'em" incident.
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crazy...if we dig some local news today, there was a story that a barca fan slashed by man u fan by 'parang', somewhere in KL, after the match ended. Luckily the victim was not died.

I love arsenal, but I won't make arsenal bigger than my life, safety, family and religion even a little scratch to my skin. Any time I will trade Arsenal for my safety. Sorry arsenal laugh.gif Am I plastix fan? laugh.gif

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QUOTE(little_mozart @ May 29 2009, 09:16 AM)
crazy...if we dig some local news today, there was a story that a barca fan slashed by man u fan by 'parang', somewhere in KL, after the match ended. Luckily the victim was not died.

I love arsenal, but I won't make arsenal bigger than my life, safety, family and religion even a little scratch to my skin. Any time I will trade Arsenal for my safety.  Sorry arsenal laugh.gif Am I plastix fan?  laugh.gif
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So, please behave yourself as an Arsenal fans ya!

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Barca is the epitome of homegrown players. Arsenal is trying to become barca and on the look of it, it seems that we are on the right path. Really hopeful that our young squad will come thru this year.

Tell me, 3 or 4 years ago, who was iniesta? Xavi was an outcast back then. Abidal was error prone in Lyon (that's why AW go for Sagna instead) and so was Puyol. What happened? They learned from their mistakes and move on. That's what we need to do with our team.

It takes a mixture of youth and experience to achieve greatness. AW need to address that and add some more experience to our team, especially at CB position.

ok.. enough about barca. congrats to them. btw, Henry can F*** off with his comments. I do hope we will be in the same group with barca next season ECL and pound them hard and out of the ECL at group stage!!!

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Iniesta have time to grow with experience players. He played with Deco, Ronaldiho, Eto, Henry, Marquez, Xavi etc etc. If Henry, Viera, Pires is still with us, we probably been better. Now there is no one to lead the team. Everybody is learning from each other. There is no role model for the kids. T.T

Arshavin arrival really shows the impact of purchasing an established player. Hope AW will work his wonders again. He did some magic on getting promising young players, now its time to get an experience guy.
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QUOTE(kimhoong @ May 29 2009, 09:42 AM)
My belief in supporting a football club is "The more you love the club, the better you behave as its fans"

So, please behave yourself as an Arsenal fans ya!
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hahaha.. my understanding is that if the more you love the club, the more u r devoted to it, the more crazy things u would do for them.
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QUOTE(waynewong79 @ May 28 2009, 09:21 PM)
wow......those african fans are so hard-cored!! previously was "hang himself" suicidal case, now "ram 'em" incident.
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i wouldnt rule out a possiblity of suicide bomber men, picturing a c4 suicide bomber
a men equipped himself with c4 in his body, goes into a crowd of opposition fans and kabooom....

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hahaha.. my understanding is that if the more you love the club, the more u r devoted to it, the more crazy things u would do for them.
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True, you are more devoted but to do "crazy" things? Don't misuse the right of being devoted lah.

Example: some fans strip off when their team won. I wonder if they strip for themselves or the team; cos the team won't get anything from it tongue.gif

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QUOTE(kimhoong @ May 29 2009, 01:59 PM)
True, you are more devoted but to do "crazy" things? Don't misuse the right of being devoted lah.

Example: some fans strip off when their team won. I wonder if they strip for themselves or the team; cos the team won't get anything from it tongue.gif
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yo,where you see fans strip?..hopefully its a girl
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yo,where you see fans strip?..hopefully its a girl
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QUOTE(sakaito @ May 29 2009, 10:34 AM)
Barca is the epitome of homegrown players. Arsenal is trying to become barca and on the look of it, it seems that we are on the right path. Really hopeful that our young squad will come thru this year.

Tell me, 3 or 4 years ago, who was iniesta? Xavi was an outcast back then. Abidal was error prone in Lyon (that's why AW go for Sagna instead) and so was Puyol. What happened? They learned from their mistakes and move on. That's what we need to do with our team.

It takes a mixture of youth and experience to achieve greatness. AW need to address that and add some more experience to our team, especially at CB position.

ok.. enough about barca. congrats to them. btw, Henry can F*** off with his comments. I do hope we will be in the same group with barca next season ECL and pound them hard and out of the ECL at group stage!!!
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You are right in that some of their youngsters had the opportunity to learn from experienced pros such as Deco, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo etc etc.

But some of the things you pointed out are not quite right though.

Iniesta has always been a super player. Its just that the media didn't hype him up like Pretty Boy Ronaldo or Little Lionel. Xavi was never an outcast and has been in the first team for close to 10 years. In fact, 3-4 years ago he was already the Vice Captain. Abidal is a LB, so I don't see a link with Sagna and he's overrated IMHO. Puyol for me has always been a solid but nothing spectacular kind of defender, which is what you need in a CB sometimes. He's also been captain for quite a while now.
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QUOTE(sakaito @ May 29 2009, 10:34 AM)
Barca is the epitome of homegrown players. Arsenal is trying to become barca and on the look of it, it seems that we are on the right path. Really hopeful that our young squad will come thru this year.

Tell me, 3 or 4 years ago, who was iniesta? Xavi was an outcast back then. Abidal was error prone in Lyon (that's why AW go for Sagna instead) and so was Puyol. What happened? They learned from their mistakes and move on. That's what we need to do with our team.

It takes a mixture of youth and experience to achieve greatness. AW need to address that and add some more experience to our team, especially at CB position.

ok.. enough about barca. congrats to them. btw, Henry can F*** off with his comments. I do hope we will be in the same group with barca next season ECL and pound them hard and out of the ECL at group stage!!!
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QUOTE(Zan81 @ May 29 2009, 02:41 PM)
You are right in that some of their youngsters had the opportunity to learn from experienced pros such as Deco, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo etc etc.

But some of the things you pointed out are not quite right though.

Iniesta has always been a super player. Its just that the media didn't hype him up like Pretty Boy Ronaldo or Little Lionel. Xavi was never an outcast and has been in the first team for close to 10 years. In fact, 3-4 years ago he was already the Vice Captain. Abidal is a LB, so I don't see a link with Sagna and he's overrated IMHO. Puyol for me has always been a solid but nothing spectacular kind of defender, which is what you need in a CB sometimes. He's also been captain for quite a while now.
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Yeap agree with Zan81 there. Iniesta was even deemed to be a bigger talent than Cesc during their youth team days. Cesc even revealed that one of the reasons he left Barca was because of players like Iniesta ahead of him in the pecking order hence the difficulty to get games. Xavi has never been an outcast. He has been an important player for Barca all this while and his appearance stats in the first team doesn't lie. Consistently more than 35 appearances for the last 10 years as well as 50++ odd appearances for the first team for the last 3 years in a row speaks volumes with the exception of 2005 where he only made 22 odd appearances because of injury problems. Same goes for Puyol. As for Abidal, Wenger he did go on record and revealed that he did not sign Abidal because he did not want to jeopardize Clichy's development.

Although I do agree with Sakaito though that in his early years Puyol is known to make some horrendous and costly mistakes. However fact is Barca stuck with Puyol. Same goes with Iniesta and Xavi. If its one thing we should learn from Barca it is to have faith in our youngsters. Experience can be harnessed whereas talent and natural ability is not something you can teach. Our kids right now certainly does have plenty of talent and natural ability, we just need to be patient.

Edit: Latest transfer rumour. Although I won't take it seriously at all and hopefully you won't as well as there are no quotes no nothing from the player himself. Moreover its from the Daily Star lolz But IMO just for amusement.

I want to be a Gunner

I have mixed feelings regarding this IF we do sign him but if Arsene decides this is the man to bring our team to the next level then I'm all for it though. Same goes to any other player if we do sign any.

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- Gareth Barry is holding out for a summer move to Arsenal.

Aston Villa captain Barry is desperate to play Champions League football during the best years of his career – and the Gunners are his No.1 option.

Though Villa want him to see out the remaining year of his contract, Star sport understands he wants out now.

Barry believes he has been loyal to the club by staying for an extra season when he could have made an £18m switch to Liverpool last year. But after Martin O’Neill’s side failed to secure a top-four finish last year, the England star knows he is running out of time to test himself at the highest level.

Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez is still an admirer, but is not keen on splashing out most of his transfer budget taking him to Anfield. That has left Manchester City and Tottenham hopeful of securing a deal – but it is Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger who is considering a £12m bid for the 28-year-old.

Wenger is searching for a dominant midfield player to add to a squad which has plenty of talent but lacks genuine bite, and he has watched Barry several times in the past few months.

- Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has warned any of his want-away players - don't compare yourself to Thierry Henry.

Wenger told arsenal.com: "It is not the same [if another player said he did not want to wait for trophies].

"Thierry played a long time for us, nobody else did that and he was close to the end of his career. All these players [in the current squad] are at the start of their careers so it’s completely different.

"I think the exact opposite now – I don’t see why we should educate the players, get some stick and when they’re ready we sell them. That would be masochistic."

- Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger believes they could have won the Premiership last year with Barcelona star Thierry Henry.

"Maybe he could have made a difference, maybe last year," said Wenger. "We had 83 points and with him we could have gained two or three more that could have won us the championship.

"But at that time I felt that a guy who has played eight or nine years for you, and has shown that kind of desire, it's difficult to stand in his way.

"If he had done two or three years I would have said 'My friend, you stay here' but when he has given so much [it is different]. He had this opportunity at Barcelona, he had a first very difficult year but I am very happy he made it this year.

"He has convinced everybody because he is a top-class player and you want them to be successful."

Wenger stressed it was only Henry who would receive special treatment to be allowed to leave, while others may not be granted a move.

"It is not the same [if another player said he did not want to wait for trophies]," said Wenger.

"Thierry played a long time for us, nobody else did that and he was close to the end of his career. All these players [in the current squad] are at the start of their careers so it's completely different.

"I think the exact opposite now - I don't see why we should educate the players, get some stick and when they're ready we sell them. That would be masochistic."

- Kroenke shows prices

Stan Kroenke has been forced by the Stock Exchange to announce the price he paid for each of the 9,901 Arsenal shares that took his shareholding from 12.2 per cent to 28.3 per cent since March. Kroenke paid Clive Carr £10,500 per share for a 3.4 per cent stake, but he paid Richard Carr, his brother, £8,500 per share for a 4.3 per cent stake. The sizeable disparity in other share prices is not known.

- Arsene Wenger and Stuart Pearce are to hold talks over how to manage Theo Walcott’s workload at the European Under-21 Championships.

Arsenal starlet Walcott is on senior duty for the World Cup qualifiers against Kazakhstan and Andorra before the U21s tournament in Sweden next month.

Gunners boss Wenger is furious his 20-year-old winger is facing such a busy programme.

Now he wants to speak with U21s chief Pearce in a bid to monitor Walcott’s fitness.

- The agent of Feyenoord starlet Luc Castaignos has confirmed the interest of big spending Premiership clubs.

Arsenal and Liverpool are keen on the striker after spotting him at last month's U17 European Championships.

Castaignos's agent, Arie Treffers, revealed: "Their interest is known to us and the clubs are prepared to go far, but we will send all communication neatly to Feyenoord."

An offer of around £750,000 will force Feyenoord to seriously consider cashing in on the teenager.


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I have mixed feelings regarding this IF we do sign him but if Arsene decides this is the man to bring our team to the next level then I'm all for it though. Same goes to any other player if we do sign any.
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Iniesta have time to grow with experience players. He played with Deco, Ronaldiho, Eto, Henry, Marquez, Xavi etc etc. If Henry, Viera, Pires is still with us, we probably been better. Now there is no one to lead the team. Everybody is learning from each other. There is no role model for the kids. T.T

Arshavin arrival really shows the impact of purchasing an established player. Hope AW will work his wonders again. He did some magic on getting promising young players, now its time to get an experience guy.
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QUOTE(aladdin @ May 29 2009, 04:39 PM)
OMG, this is the greatest news so far!! How reliable this news is?
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Haha I just posted it because I found it amusing, don't get your hopes up too high lol. If you notice there are no quotes whatsoever directly from the player himself. So this is likely to be false. But then again who knows lol
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12M for Barry? bring him! wat are u waiting for?
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if we can add barry or alonso to our ranks, i would be thrilled to bits... of course right now, the only thing we have is rumours. however, it is known that barry has been looking for a move to a club with european football and that alonso for some reason doesn't really rank very high in rafa's books....

and if wenger is serious about bringing players with experience who can give us that extra edge, both these players are decently priced and aren't past their prime yet.

but until that happens.. i'll just continue dreaming... heheh...

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from the link,no quotes from him ot whatsoever
so to me its just haha news..
he has been desperate to play UCL for god knows how long
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go get alan smith instead!!

neway, happy belated birthday! arshavin =)

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QUOTE(lostasylum @ May 30 2009, 02:29 AM)
if we can add barry or alonso to our ranks, i would be thrilled to bits... of course right now, the only thing we have is rumours. however, it is known that barry has been looking for a move to a club with european football and that alonso for some reason doesn't really rank very high in rafa's books....

and if wenger is serious about bringing players with experience who can give us that extra edge, both these players are decently priced and aren't past their prime yet.

but until that happens.. i'll just continue dreaming... heheh...
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Barry is good in termof exp and skills. but is he a match winner?
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barry? it would be great to have him, but i dont believe he actually said that he wants to come. he didn't say anything so, it dont mean anything. oh, and he is old. already 28

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Well, his experience & "leadership" is more pricey.
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i'm not too sure about mr. barry... idk but he doesnt look intimidating enough. i might not be in a good position to comment on him coz i havent seen him play a lot, but i'm like super keen on cana. but i guess he's good for the price (IF the news if anything trustworthy). even if it's true, i fear wenger will refuse to get him so as not to 'jeopardize' song's development.


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barry? it would be great to have him, but i dont believe he actually said that he wants to come. he didn't say anything so, it dont mean anything. oh, and he is old. already 28
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Its Villa's loss of they don't sell Barry. His contract is up by end of next season IINM. 12m is a really good offer for someone in his last year.

... Otherwise we'll just take him for free season after next!
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exactly, barry didn't sign any extension last year rite? he was committed to villa for another year, and as much as he wants to, villa just didn't have enough to sustain their form for ECL spot.

Villa is really in a tight spot. They know they have the talent to challenge but they don't have the squad depth to sustain. In order to move forward, more investment is needed to add to squad depth... and that means more $$ is needed. So, they need to create some money before they can spend, rite?

so 12M is quite ok i think. Had it been last season, i think AW would've paid 16m or maybe 18m but villa not interested.
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Do Arsenal has transfer fund to use? Is it enough to Barry etc?
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we will have enuf transfer fund after sell adebayor.
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Don't know whether this can be trusted or not but selling Eboue, don't seem logic to me.
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i think it's not a wise act to sell eboue.. he maybe below from the expectation at the right midfield position, but useful as backup to sagna at the right back. if we sell him, that's mean we just have gavin hoyte for sagna's backup isn't it? imo, we still need eboue for next season (even i hate when see he's diving like got sniped at the forehead)
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if sold ade, i dont think aw wil buy another striker...
aw already have rvp, nicky, dudu and vela...
maybe a good defender is his priority...
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If barry is indeed 12M, even if there's no transfer kitty for AW, the fans will lobby for it.

As said before, any transfer rumours without the players/manager directly quoting I'll just consider it as current gossip.
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keep eboue. despite not approving of his antics on occasions, he shows heart while playing for the club (unlike the number 25). he loves arsenal and thats a good enough reason to keep him as his versatility and willingness to play second fiddle to walcott and sagna will be important to ensure that we have the depth required to mount a serious challenge next season.


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QUOTE(mengdez @ May 30 2009, 06:17 PM)
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Don't know whether this can be trusted or not but selling Eboue, don't seem logic to me.
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sell ade enough la. if we got 13M as claimed, selling ade at 20m odd is good enough.. then we'll have 30+M to spend on at least 2 people, sign 1 year extension for Gallas, also sign RVP, Song, Bendtner on new deals and keep eboue.

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major shake-up... really? if that's real i hope it's for adding players, not removing them.
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Guys, if you follow the news on the Mirror, then Wenger would've sold the whole squad in the summer.
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if u keep adding without removing, then your team will be unsettle. more players wanna play and creates tension instead of competition. We definitely don't want that.


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Who comes out with this "major shake-up" speculation anyway? AW didn't say that.

If you ask me, "major shake-up" involves large scale selling of regulars - the nearest we saw was when Abramovich bought over Chelsea. Seriously, I do not foresee AW will sell 4-5 regulars.

I'd say, keep Eboue - I do not mind keeping Adebayor also; providing him start playing football again and STOP talking to the media unnecessarily as a PR guy or something.


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if u keep adding without removing, then your team will be unsettle. more players wanna play and creates tension instead of competition. We definitely don't want that.
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Yes, I'm one the those who agree that we offload before we upload players! Not to mention that our promising youngsters are forcing their ways to the first teamers but the space is just ain't big enough for everybody.

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oh yeah, we definitely need to offload some before bringing ppl in.. wth was i thinking... i probably was thinking too much about the shake up, coz the squad we have right now doesnt need to undergo a 'major shake-up' in terms of removing too many players. screw that rumour anyway smile.gif

i dunno abt nick, i'd say he's not that bad of a player. i'll keep eboue, like one forumer once said he's a good utility player. a good sub i guess =)
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we need to add more depth into our defensive qualities.

when glichy injured and gallas we suffered dearly in important games like the man utd, and the chelsea one.

theres no need to let anybody leave. if we keep this squad for this coming season i can actually see come chemistry building among all team members.

let's hope all stays. even silvestre
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QUOTE(kimhoong @ May 31 2009, 11:54 PM)
Yes, I'm one the those who agree that we offload before we upload players! Not to mention that our promising youngsters are forcing their ways to the first teamers but the space is just ain't big enough for everybody.
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In terms of the crowded areas such as the forwards and creative attackers, yes... We probably are well stocked up in those aspects. But we probably can improve on areas in particularly CB without letting go of anyone. It would be great to have an established player challenging Kolo and Willy for their spots. Silvestre is, and will be, merely a backup utility defender; while for JD it would be great to ease him into the team in a more gradual fashion. Sendy? No signs of him returning, and even if he did, he probably didn't achieve enough at Milan to prove that he's better than any of our current options.

QUOTE(Thumpy Ick @ Jun 1 2009, 02:10 AM)
i dunno abt nick, i'd say he's not that bad of a player. i'll keep eboue, like one forumer once said he's a good utility player. a good sub i guess =)
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Nicky will stay. He's not the finished article yet, and the potential is already there to be seen. Despite a shaky start to his season, he has managed to get a decent number of goals which is not too far behind our other strikers. Granted, some of them should have came in more vital games, but he's not the only one who failed to shine when it mattered the most. I'm very pleased with his development this season, yet I must say it was partially because I wasn't expecting him to become Thierry Henry at the tender age of 20.

Eboue... good utility player, I would be one of them who called so. tongue.gif But it's true. He doesn't complain about the lack of first team opportunities, and we've seen that without the playacting, Eboue can be a very good player who pushes forward with great drive and athleticism.

Tabloids are cranking up once again... Like what kelvin said, if we believe everything that the media claims, we'd be selling our entire team !!
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I dont mind AW sells Ade (trouble maker), Denilson (Won't have big improvement in the future), Diaby (piece of $hit). Just bring in Toure/Barry!!!
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What i like most about Bendtner is his workrate. He may not be the most talented or deadly striker but his workrate and his willingness to drop deep to collect the ball and link up play makes him a good player to keep. Plus, he's a really good finisher in the air. There's not another player in our camp that could time the run, rise in the air and nod past the GK, as good as Bendtner does.

With Ade, he's a slightly better finisher than Bendtner. His mazy runs, the speed and his positioning. But i guess that comes with match experience. The thing about Ade, he's very seasonal. There's a period whereby he would score for instance 8 goals in 9 matches and there will be a period whereby he would run dry for 7-8 matches and looked lost in the game. What he's lacking is consistency, but of coz im not doubting his abilities when his form arrives.

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Nicky will stay. He's not the finished article yet, and the potential is already there to be seen. Despite a shaky start to his season, he has managed to get a decent number of goals which is not too far behind our other strikers. Granted, some of them should have came in more vital games, but he's not the only one who failed to shine when it mattered the most. I'm very pleased with his development this season, yet I must say it was partially because I wasn't expecting him to become Thierry Henry at the tender age of 20.
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You're right. Some people expect so much so soon from Bendtner. Heck, Thierry Henry didn't become Thierry Henry until aged 22-23!!

Obviously, one of the things to work on is his finishing, but don't forget Henry took 12 games before netting his first goal and he still missed quite a few sitters in his first year. I'm not saying Bendtner is the next Henry (not even close!), but judging by his footwork, creativity and ability to hold up the ball, he has the potential to be a very good player within the next two seasons.
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At least Nick heads better den Ade evendou our crosses arent up to par. Nick will penetrate the defence more and waiting for passes rather than Ade staying at the wings to emulate Henry. Nick is 20 with a pink boot.

Eboue wise, i'll say keep it. Hes like Arsenal O'Shea. He didnt complains and did his job well enough. We still need his experience as well.

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By the way, did anybody see the BPL best goals last night? No. 2 was Bentley's volley against us. vmad.gif

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hmm.gif I would say bendtner did score some goals eventhough coming as sub...and his best partnership is with vela...i love to see these 2 strikers linked up and understand each other....for ade's case, i don't really know who is actually best partner for him!!
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Ade when playing 4-3-3 and Nicky + Vela when playing 4-4-2.

But, when ade playing 4-3-3 i fear it would become 4-6-0 when Henry soul possesed him again.

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we need to add more depth into our defensive qualities.

when glichy injured and gallas we suffered dearly in important games like the man utd, and the chelsea one.

theres no need to let anybody leave. if we keep this squad for this coming season i can actually see come chemistry building among all team members.

let's hope all stays. even silvestre
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All stay. add maybe a holding midfileder and a centre half. we need squad depth. let em youngsters fight for their place...let em know place in first eleven dont come easy n never complacent in games... play well, get chosen...play badly no improvement...bench. finish story.
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QUOTE(aladdin @ Jun 1 2009, 08:40 AM)
I dont mind AW sells Ade (trouble maker), Denilson (Won't have big improvement in the future), Diaby (piece of $hit). Just bring in Toure/Barry!!!
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Vieira was a mishap at Milan at the age of 20. We all know how he turned out. Give Denilson some slack. No one expected him to rule England this season, and when he was left out of the team for Song we actually shipped in 4 goals against Chelsea and 3 against MU. At the GROVE somemore...

I'm not going to debate about Diaby as we all are disappointed in his lack of effort rather than the lack of skill.

The rumours about Barry came from thin air... No quotes whatsoever. Of course, the less said about any potential Arsenal targets the better; but this is simply out of the blue. To be honest, I haven't seen enough of Barry to put down a verdict, but the fact that Villa's relegation form in the final 1/3 of the season may suggest that he probably isn't exactly that influential after all. Or maybe he was already hellbent on leaving and affected his form.

QUOTE(Zan81 @ Jun 1 2009, 09:56 AM)
I'm not saying Bendtner is the next Henry (not even close!), but judging by his footwork, creativity and ability to hold up the ball, he has the potential to be a very good player within the next two seasons.
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The thing with Nicky is that he is yet to find his best role.

Target man ie no9?
Support striker ie no10?
Free central role ie Titi14?

We've seen him mainly as a target man in his early days/subs appearances, and as a support striker when he was paired with Dudu last season in the CC. Hell he even got far too many time on the wings when he's clearly not a winger.

I still believe he has the power, the pace, and the positioning to become our blonde Anelka... Well, maybe not as quick but you get the idea. There can be only one Thierry Henry, and once again apart from Theo there's no one in our team that appears to play like the King. Even for Theo it's far too early to predict.

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But, when ade playing 4-3-3 i fear it would become 4-6-0 when Henry soul possesed him again.
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if ade blah..i am the most happy person biggrin.gif
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what has robin's teeth have anything to do with his injuries?? i am intrigued to see if he really can score more now his wisdom teeth will be removed. lol. i will be the first one to say bye to ade if he goes. i dont like him. and that is putting it mildly. and i hope arsene listens to cesc abt alonso. i would like him there. too expensive? get cana =)
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QUOTE(kaka91 @ Jun 1 2009, 07:50 PM)
what has robin's teeth have anything to do with his injuries?? i am intrigued to see if he really can score more now his wisdom teeth will be removed. lol. i will be the first one to say bye to ade if he goes. i dont like him. and that is putting it mildly. and i hope arsene listens to cesc abt alonso. i would like him there. too expensive? get cana =)
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Well if robin have injury trouble and scores 20 goal this season,if he has no injury would you be surprise to see him score like 30+ goal or so?

If it really will help him,i hope he destroy the wisdom tooth instead
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Jun 1 2009, 02:11 PM)
Vieira was a mishap at Milan at the age of 20. We all know how he turned out. Give Denilson some slack. No one expected him to rule England this season, and when he was left out of the team for Song we actually shipped in 4 goals against Chelsea and 3 against MU. At the GROVE somemore...
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i'm gonna be honest bro. i think denilson deserves to be given some slack cause he's still young and all that. but i do believe that fabregas needs to be given a way better midfield partner that can help him out. in that respect, i think even song has been inconsistent as well. again, i'm hoping someone with more experience and can command the midfield more can come in straight into the side. this will allow song and denilson to learn more from the two midfield maestros so that they can take over after that. but that's just my view lah..

QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Jun 1 2009, 02:11 PM)
The thing with Nicky is that he is yet to find his best role.

Target man ie no9?
Support striker ie no10?
Free central role ie Titi14?

We've seen him mainly as a target man in his early days/subs appearances, and as a support striker when he was paired with Dudu last season in the CC. Hell he even got far too many time on the wings when he's clearly not a winger.

I still believe he has the power, the pace, and the positioning to become our blonde Anelka... Well, maybe not as quick but you get the idea. There can be only one Thierry Henry, and once again apart from Theo there's no one in our team that appears to play like the King. Even for Theo it's far too early to predict.
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i agree with you to a certain extent that yes, the big dane has not been able to play in his preferred role much this season, mostly coming in and having to play from the right. also, he hasn't been given that many chances to start a match. however, i still think that he needs to definitely work on his first touch, ball possession and make sure that he delivers this coming season if he wants to stake his claim as a first team player. having said all that, i really like his workrate.. he's one guy who will run his socks off for the team... unlike a certain other striker... =)
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QUOTE(Azurues @ Jun 1 2009, 09:22 PM)
Well if robin have injury trouble and scores 20 goal this season,if he has no injury would you be surprise to see him score like 30+ goal or so?
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That's somewhat possible. Don't forget how many times he hit the woodwork this season. Had he had a little bit of luck and scored most of those chances we'd be seeing Thierry-Henryeque statistics for Robin now.

QUOTE(lostasylum @ Jun 2 2009, 01:38 AM)
i'm gonna be honest bro. i think denilson deserves to be given some slack cause he's still young and all that. but i do believe that fabregas needs to be given a way better midfield partner that can help him out. in that respect, i think even song has been inconsistent as well. again, i'm hoping someone with more experience and can command the midfield more can come in straight into the side. this will allow song and denilson to learn more from the two midfield maestros so that they can take over after that. but that's just my view lah..

i agree with you to a certain extent that yes, the big dane has not been able to play in his preferred role much this season, mostly coming in and having to play from the right. also, he hasn't been given that many chances to start a match. however, i still think that he needs to definitely work on his first touch, ball possession and make sure that he delivers this coming season if he wants to stake his claim as a first team player. having said all that, i really like his workrate.. he's one guy who will run his socks off for the team... unlike a certain other striker... =)
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Of course, it seems that we both share the same view that Song and Denilson have much to improve before being able to rule the midfield. And we agree that someone with experience and ready to go will be welcomed in our midfield.

What I'm saying is that Denilson, despite his flaws, has been one of the more important members in this team. Comments such as "he will never improve" are unfair as he has already shown great improvement this season, and does his job admirably... nothing flashy, just sweet and simple. Stats don't show everything about him, but it does say something about his contributions to the team.

Nicky, well his first touch does appear to be Adebayor-like at times. But there are also glimpses when it goes to the other end of the spectrum and becomes Titi/Dennis-like. He's probably never going to be first choice next season, but he has always stated his desire to fight for his position and this season he has managed to show that he has the goods.

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I really wondering how many Manager Chelsea need to change?? Anyway, i looking forward to the new manager Carlo Ancelotti , when kena sacked and end up like all the ex chelsea manager...

AW is brilliant not to chose to go anyway, we can have his long service if he still keep staying in Arsenal.
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looks like cesc's dream of having xabi at arsenal aint gonna happen. he is supposedly going to real.. ah well
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any of u guys got full highlights of arsenal vs man utd , nasri's goals.
can share on rapidshare?
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huhuhuh everybody wondering who's coming... who's going.. well i can tell u this, knowing AW, there won't be any announcement until like late july or even late august. wink.gif hehehe

Alonso or Barry? personally, i'd prefer alonso but my gut feeling is that Barry is most likely to come. dunno.... i'll reason with u guys later on this.

Thierry Henry didn't just turn into legend. he spent 2 years with us before lighting the EPL on fire. by then, he got Viera, Pires, Bergkamp, Keown, Parlor and the rest to help him. Also, he was about 26 then. So, if you guys wanna compare our current crop with him, at least give them a little room to grow and be mature. i'd say another year for nicky and vela would do wonders to them. Also, i think Walcott will be vital next season and i hope he won't be jaded from all the international duties.

patience... and we'll be rewarded.
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If you were to ask me which player wasnt good enough in the team. There is only 1 player that I could think off:

Diaby

I know there any many Diaby-Pro out there and how he performed before he get himself injured but seriously, even a non-Arsenal fans can tell that he is not improving. For me, Diaby never gonna near Vieara and I think Song is nearer than Diaby. For somehow I couldnt see Diaby determination on winning the ball back, his sence of shooting, lack of speed. I dunno about u guys. I just feel that he wasnt good enough to be in the team.

I believe getting an experience midfield to partner with Fabs and a speedy/versatile CB like Vidic to partner with Toure or Gallas should solve our problems.
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QUOTE(Lowyat @ Jun 2 2009, 08:31 AM)
I really wondering how many Manager Chelsea need to change?? Anyway, i looking forward to the new manager Carlo Ancelotti , when kena sacked and end up like all the ex chelsea manager...

AW is brilliant not to chose to go anyway, we can have his long service if he still keep staying in Arsenal.
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http://www.arsenalvision.co.uk/myvision.php

Of course, like I always say; stats don't tell the whole story but they surely carry some weight. For some reason Denilson's stats this season has been absolutely astounding, even though there probably wasn't a single match where he bossed the midfield and outgunned the opponents.

If given the option between Alonso and Denilson in our team, the Spaniard's superior passing and vast experience at both club and international level will give him the utmost advantage here. There's little doubt about what Alonso could offer to our team, but my point is again to reiterate how important Denilson has been to us this season.

And yeah, Arsene speaks about stats, but probably more as an advertisement gesture laugh.gif:
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"The performance insights from the Castrol Index are crucial to me. I only have two eyes so I can follow the ball and see where a player is positioned but I cannot really measure what every single player’s performance is like physically. I don’t need extra help in the form of opinions, because that's not good enough for a manager. As a manager I need something secure to rely on. To be able to measure the real physical performances of the players is very important to me. With these insights from the Castrol Index I can make objective statements and judgements of the performances from all of my players."

http://www.castrolfootball.com/experts/

Fire away.

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AW please suck egg.. aren't u the one who gave SGE your opinion about walcott and SGE took the bait and went to World cup with Walcott? puhlezzz..

of course stats are good but it doesn't say much about quality and character of the person.

Anyway, Barry in talks with citeh.. it's all about the g's!
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aw, please hijack barry deals, as you did for silves!
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Arsenal, Liverpool & Everton On Alert As Marseille Enforcer Looks To Move On

Premier League clubs Arsenal, Liverpool and Everton will be heartened by the comments made by Lorik Cana, with the Marseille captain conceding he could leave the Ligue 1 side this summer.

OM have just lost out on the French title to Bordeaux, with 25-year-old Cana revealing that even though he is under contract at the Stade Velodrome until 2012 the door is still open for him to leave France.

“Even if I have another three years on my contract, the door is still open for me to depart,” Cana said.

Cana went on to reveal that he will discuss his future at Marseille at the end of the campaign, with the midfield enforcer claiming the Premiership and Bundesliga are attractive to him and that it’s 50/50 on whether he stays at OM.

“I’ll talk to my family and the leaders [of Marseille] at the end of the season. I will not finish my career here. But I don’t want to hurry and I don’t want to leave without winning something for OM. Today, it’s 50-50,” he added.

“England and Germany are the two championships that interest me the most.”


Gunners manager Arsene Wenger is believed to be a big fan of Cana, with the Arsenal boss in the market for a midfield general to partner Cesc Fabregas at the Emirates Stadium. While, Reds boss Rafa Benitez is understood to see the former Paris St Germain player as the ideal replacement for Xabi Alonso, should the Spaniard depart Anfield.

Everton were heavily linked with a swoop for Cana last summer and manager David Moyes could rekindle his interest in the midfielder, should the Scot fail to land the Merseyside clubs main target Joao Moutinho at Sporting Lisbon.


Former Spurs Boss Vetoes Vermaelen Arsenal Move?

Former Tottenham Hotspur boss Martin Jol is believed to have vetoed the sale of Thomas Vermaelen to Spurs’ local Premier League rivals Arsenal after taking over from Marco van Basten at Ajax.

Jol, has only just arrived at the Amsterdam Arena after a successful campaign in the Bundesliga with Hamburg. However, his arrival could not have come at a worse time for Gunners manager Arsene Wenger. It understood Jol wants to keep Belgian International Vermaelen, who was believed to have been close to a move to the Emirates Stadium.

Wenger had identified 23-year-old Vermaelen as an ideal addition to his defensive options at the Premiership club, with the commanding central-defender also believed to have been on the radar of Aston Villa manager Martin O’Neill. After scoring against the Villans in the UEFA Cup.


Now it is understood that Jol has told the board of the directors at the Godenzonen not to sell Vermaelen, with it thought that the Belgian stopper will remain in Amsterdam for another year at least.

This will come as a blow to Wenger, who is keen to tighten a defence at the North London club that the Frenchman feels is responsible for Arsenal falling just short on all fronts last season.


Farking Martin Jol



Arsenal To Join Liverpool, Spurs & Real Madrid In Race For Boro Starlet?

Arsenal are believed to be the latest Premier League club to show an interest in Middlesbrough winger Adam Johnson, according to reports, with Liverpool, Tottenham Hotspur and Manchester United also said to be tracking the Boro flier.

21-year-old Johnson came through the youth system at the Riverside Stadium to make his Premiership debut against the Gunners in 2005. The winger’s performances for Middlesbrough this term attracted attention from La Liga giants Real Madrid in the January transfer window, with Johnson likely to depart the North East this summer following Boro’s relegation to the Championship.

Johnson is understood to have already told Middlesbrough that he is keeping his options open, the winger having just a year to run on his contract at the Riverside. Boro boss Gareth Southgate will be loathed to lose Johnson, but knows that Middlesbrough need to trim the squad and wont be able to stand in the England Under-21 International’s way should a suitable offer arrive.

England Under-21 boss Stuart Pearce has included Johnson in the squad for this, summers European Championships, where some good performances from the young winger, will surely cause the Boro players price tag to soar.

Sources from "Premiership Latest"

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Barry move to Man City with 18mil pound.. so.. will Rafa let Alonso leave?
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Barry completes £12m move to Manchester City

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id...ansfers&cc=4716


LOL so much so of playing in Champions League and now he ends up in Man City. I guess money plays a hell lots of bigger role than ambitions and dreams =D
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^ motherfarmer... i didnt hear crap about manc and then suddenly it happens. well i guess that's football in general, eh? u dont hear anything abt gallas n silvestre n the next thing u know, they're holding the white n red jersey.

ok so barry's out... dont care. i want lorik 'enforcer' cana
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Barry has made the wrong move. sweat.gif
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just like robinho zzzzzz
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Don't be surprised if we don't sign anyone.
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Arsenal just capture Newcastle player would be enough.

By the way, i really hope AW can get Ribery...he is good..

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I would love to see Wenger sign David Silva and Villa. But $$
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oh dear,barry move is so sudden shocking.gif
why citeh.....i can only see he is going there for the money
no CL for him at citeh also,uefa cup also dont have...what on earth is he thinking
or he sees the future..he sees combinging stars would put citeh next season for a CL spot
only he knows
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Yeap. Confirm is looking at the future. With the wages he was given, its much better than playing in UCL. Enough to last him the rest of his life. Clever move. Yeah.


Added on June 3, 2009, 10:04 amOpps, hes only paid 80k a week. Not as much as i expected.

Good dou. Now we can focus on Cana without hesitation.

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damn!!!!!!!no barry!!!!WTH!!!!!!!!!!only 12mill...so cheap.....F**K!!!!!!!!!!!huhuhuhu.....sorry...need to get that frustration off my chest......
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I don't see us offering Barry that 80k a week contract even if a bid from us is accepted in the first place.
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Two different schools of thought on the Barry swoop by City.

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Has Arsene Wenger been left in the blocks by one of his rival managers? Has the Arsenal board whacked the handcuffs on their manager? Only they know. Maybe Wenger does not want Barry anymore.

But 12 months ago he most definitely did.

Back then the £18-20 million price tag seemed too hefty to pay. This time the price seems right, and it seems Arsenal – more than Liverpool (who clearly do not need Barry) – have missed the boat.

Last summer I wrote a blog lambasting Liverpool’s pursuit of Barry, based purely on the fact that Benitez would be wrong to attempt to pair Mascherano with the Villa man – at the expense of the more creative Xabi Alonso.

Wenger did not want to do that. He wanted Barry as the deeper-lying midfielder to Fabregas, providing the foundation on which Arsenal would play. Such an idea would have prompted a significantly more positive blog.

Value for money is a subjective matter. Is Barry worth £12 million? Probably. He’s an England midfielder, he’s versatile, he puts his foot in and has the ability to bring energy to a game. Everything Arsenal need.


source for the full article.


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Now we move on to Barry. another greedy git. Last year, he was within moments of joining Liverpool, with his dream of playing Champions League football. But credit to the lad, he turned them down, deciding to stay with the club who made him (aka poached him from Brighton for nothing). He said that he would be loyal to Villa, and would stay if they make the Champions League the season after. And he was loyal to his word. Villa failed to make Champions League football. So he left. To fill in the hole next to Cesc at Arsenal No. To replace Madrid bound Alonso at Liverpool No. To replace the injured Hargreaves and the OAP Scholes at United No. He left To join Manchester City, A side who already have 2 better CMers (Kompany and De Jong, arguably 3 with the form of Ireland). A team who finish 10th. TENTH.

Like with Ribery, you have to wonder why he changed his mind. Perhaps he realised he wasn't as good as he thought. Perhaps he realised that Liverpool preferred Mascherano/Gerrar/Lucas and would rather spend their money on class like Silva or Tevez. Perhaps he realised that Alex Song was better then him, and if Arsenal were to buy a CMer, it would be a strong, energetic one, not a 1 paced one. Perhaps he realised that Fergie though Anderson, with his shin splints, chubby face, was a much better player then the man constantly shown up in the big games for England.


source for the full article. (quite colourful language)

If you look back last year, Barry was in a more advanced midfield role with Petrov playing the holding role. For me, if Barry signed for Arsenal, this would mean that Barry would fit into the "Denilson" role next to Fabregas with Song occupying the holding role, assuming we are going to play 4-3-3. But AW has always believed in the 4-4-2 and we have always played best with the 4-4-2. So perhaps there is a reason why he decided to give Barry a pass now that we have addressed the solution of the Pires role with the arrival of Arshavin?

On the other hand, Barry has loads of experience which is something we really need at the moment. Yes he may not be the fastest or most energetic, but he does remind me of Gilberto. But then again, Cesc plays best with an energetic partner and while Gilbert played best with Vieira in the side. Damn I'm contradicting myself. Let's get Cana then tongue.gif



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no more barry guys..villa let him go cheap than got nothing next year..
wenger wait until transfer windows end again?

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Spud, rate Cana for £5m!
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Read, and be enlightened. Or even incensed, maybe tongue.gif
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http://www.arsenalvision.co.uk/myvision.php

Of course, like I always say; stats don't tell the whole story but they surely carry some weight. For some reason Denilson's stats this season has been absolutely astounding, even though there probably wasn't a single match where he bossed the midfield and outgunned the opponents.

If given the option between Alonso and Denilson in our team, the Spaniard's superior passing and vast experience at both club and international level will give him the utmost advantage here. There's little doubt about what Alonso could offer to our team, but my point is again to reiterate how important Denilson has been to us this season.

And yeah, Arsene speaks about stats, but probably more as an advertisement gesture laugh.gif:

http://www.castrolfootball.com/experts/

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Nice stats you got there.

As mentioned, although in raw eyes, Alonso is more superior than Denilson, statistically it isn't.

The stats show something. Whether it's important or not, it depends on individuals biggrin.gif

For me, Alonso is STILL ahead of Denilson. It's his presence in the squad counts (physically or spiritually). Having his presence in the squad allows leadership and role-models (things I mentioned in previous posts) to shine smile.gif I really could not see these in Denilson.

HOWEVER, it doesn't mean Denilson is nothing or we can throw away the stats. The stats shows that Denilson is a good player - technically on the field. He can be a good player, a good "executor", a team player. He still lack of LEADERSHIP and PRESENCE in the team. Something Arsenal really really needs the most!

Now, what worries me is that Denilson has been doing well while Fabregas is irreplaceable. Both lack of presence to me. IF someone like Barry, Alonso, Cana, whoever comes in, Denilson will be forced to sit on the bench or play on the wings doh.gif This is not favorable to me but we really need leadership in our team sad.gif

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Barry completes £12m move to Manchester City

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id...ansfers&cc=4716
LOL so much so of playing in Champions League and now he ends up in Man City. I guess money plays a hell lots of bigger role than ambitions and dreams =D
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This is shocking and ungrateful to the Villas sad.gif

QUOTE(sigheart @ Jun 3 2009, 10:54 AM)
I don't see us offering Barry that 80k a week contract even if a bid from us is accepted in the first place.
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Agree - even if Barry can be as "explosive" as Arshavin biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Zan81 @ Jun 3 2009, 11:24 AM)
Two different schools of thought on the Barry swoop by City.
source for the full article.
source for the full article. (quite colourful language)

If you look back last year, Barry was in a more advanced midfield role with Petrov playing the holding role. For me, if Barry signed for Arsenal, this would mean that Barry would fit into the "Denilson" role next to Fabregas with Song occupying the holding role, assuming we are going to play 4-3-3. But AW has always believed in the 4-4-2 and we have always played best with the 4-4-2. So perhaps there is a reason why he decided to give Barry a pass now that we have addressed the solution of the Pires role with the arrival of Arshavin?

On the other hand, Barry has loads of experience which is something we really need at the moment. Yes he may not be the fastest or most energetic, but he does remind me of Gilberto. But then again, Cesc plays best with an energetic partner and while Gilbert played best with Vieira in the side. Damn I'm contradicting myself. Let's get Cana then  tongue.gif
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Nice article you got there! wink.gif
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Is it Cana Arsenal really need? He is just tough tackling guy. Does he do defensive duties properly?
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QUOTE(saksoba @ Jun 3 2009, 01:48 PM)
Is it Cana Arsenal really need? He is just tough tackling guy. Does he do defensive duties properly?
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Seriously, I do not know.

All these while, what about Cana I know are from articles, blogs, youtubes, etc... I never watch him plays, forget about watching him to play for a FULL MATCH. Anyway, most of what I read show that we need him smile.gif

I'll like to emphasize that we need LEADERSHIP and PRESENCE in the team ! I don't care who we need, I only need these attributes ! If there is someone in the team can provide these, I have no complain if we are not buying.
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sell ade and buy martins already eh. he's far more better than the togonator..
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sell ade and buy martins already eh. he's far more better than the togonator..
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It's not easy to compare striker-to-striker as I believe they are different type of strikers. (disclaimer: I'm not pro-Ade)
Basically, we have different types of strikers in the team and for Ade's type, I think Bendtner is.
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It's not easy to compare striker-to-striker as I believe they are different type of strikers. (disclaimer: I'm not pro-Ade)
Basically, we have different types of strikers in the team and for Ade's type, I think Bendtner is.
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when ade runs, he runs weirds(dangling way), bendtner not steady enuf..
both of them a nearly the same types of players...
van persie is different class edi...
intelligent, fast and skillful
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wtf...barry, definitely for the $$ sake. Was declare want to play for UCL...then what?? ManC?
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QUOTE(aladdin @ Jun 3 2009, 04:00 PM)
wtf...barry, definitely for the $$ sake. Was declare want to play for UCL...then what?? ManC?
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Perharps he misUnderstood ManC for ManU? rolleyes.gif

btw, I do feel missing Barry for 12M is really a blow. Like what KimHoong said, we need the two attributes.
Perharps with the articles/youtube about Cana, we should get him.

As for Martin, I saw somewhere that said AW is interested in signing Martin. He is good. But duno whether he could play in Arsenal style
Remember Andry? He is God at AC but look what happen when he came to our London "friend"? Flop.
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FFS 12m for barry????

Arsenal should be able to pay him that and can promise him more than what ManC can do doh.gif
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Perharps offered everything and much better than MC could offered except 80, 000 per week salary. But i thought Barry not that kind of guy? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(zenox0123 @ Jun 3 2009, 04:19 PM)
Perharps offered everything and much better than MC could offered except 80, 000 per week salary. But i thought Barry not that kind of guy? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Azurues @ Jun 3 2009, 04:17 PM)
FFS 12m for barry????

Arsenal should be able to pay him that and can promise him more than what ManC can do doh.gif
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Arsenal could match the 12m price tag, but not the 100k per week salary that has been offered by citeh. If Arsenal do really offer that much of salary to Barry, it will definitely cause unrest in our dressing room since most of our more "senior" players and heck even RvP and Andrey dont get 100k per week. I rather not see that happen.


The signing of Barry is a marker for City. Unlike the Craig Bellamys and Wayne Bridges of this world, they have signed a player who could easily slot into Arsenal’s team. They have signed a player Arsene Wenger once wanted.

Maybe the Arsenal boss is eyeing somebody better. Maybe he has earmarked the new Patrick Vieira.



From one of the articles posted by Zan81 earlier *correction* biggrin.gif
http://www.setanta.com//uk/Blogs/Ben-Black...-in-the-blocks/


hmmm hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif ... No news from Pool regarding Barry this summer probably shows that they have placed all their support for Alonso. No news from arsenal probably shows that :

1) Denilson and Song are good enough in the eyes of Le Boss. Le Boss did mention that the area he's most probably going to strengthen is our defence. He did not mention anything about our midfield if i remember correctly.

2) Le Boss already has someone better in his mind. *cough cana cough* biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(overmars @ Jun 3 2009, 04:34 PM)
Arsenal could match the 12m price tag, but not the 100k per week salary that has been offered by citeh. If Arsenal do really offer that much of salary to Barry, it will definitely cause unrest in our dressing room since most of our more "senior" players and heck even RvP and Andrey dont get 100k per week. I rather not see that happen.
The signing of Barry is a marker for City. Unlike the Craig Bellamys and Wayne Bridges of this world, they have signed a player who could easily slot into Arsenal’s team. They have signed a player Arsene Wenger once wanted.

Maybe the Arsenal boss is eyeing somebody better. Maybe he has earmarked the new Patrick Vieira.

From one of the articles posted by StarGhazzer earlier
http://www.setanta.com//uk/Blogs/Ben-Black...-in-the-blocks/
hmmm  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif ... No news from Pool regarding Barry this summer probably shows that they have placed all their support for Alonso. No news from arsenal probably shows that :

1) Denilson and Song are good enough in the eyes of Le Boss. Le Boss did mention that the area he's most probably going to strengthen is our defence. He did not mention anything about our midfield if i remember correctly.

2) Le Boss already has someone better in his mind. *cough cana cough*  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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True True. If Barry get 100k per week, think Chaos will happen in Arsenal dressing room. I do feel AW should get a good established CB to partner with either Toure/Gallas. I think you all will agree with me that Gallas played much better after he been stripped for his captain yet I dont see Arsenal have any speedy-air commanding CB like Vidic. Seriously, Get a Vidic-Type CB. That what we need. Perharps getting Cana to partner with Fabs is good. But getting another CB will be best!

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QUOTE(overmars @ Jun 3 2009, 04:34 PM)
From one of the articles posted by StarGhazzer earlier
http://www.setanta.com//uk/Blogs/Ben-Black...-in-the-blocks/
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Sedihnya... I cari, orang lain dapat nama... cry.gif

Hehe kidding bro...

Yeah hope we get Cana and return to our one red card every month days. Damn we were mean back then...

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QUOTE(Zan81 @ Jun 3 2009, 04:44 PM)
Sedihnya... I cari, orang lain dapat nama...  cry.gif

Hehe kidding bro...

Yeah hope we get Cana and return to our one red card every month days. Damn we were mean back then...
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QUOTE(zenox0123 @ Jun 3 2009, 04:47 PM)
The word MEAN doesnt suit us best. It suit another team best if you know what I mean  wink.gif
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Er... Actually I don't...

I was referring to the days of Vieira, Petit, Keown, Winterburn, Lauren... All hard men... And very prone to get red cards.

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QUOTE(Zan81 @ Jun 3 2009, 04:51 PM)
Er... Actually I don't...

I was referring to the days of Vieira, Petit, Keown, Winterburn, Lauren... All hard men... And very prone to get red cards.
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lol despite the youtube showings...

cana only been sent off once in four years..
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QUOTE(Zan81 @ Jun 3 2009, 04:44 PM)
Sedihnya... I cari, orang lain dapat nama...  cry.gif

Hehe kidding bro...

Yeah hope we get Cana and return to our one red card every month days. Damn we were mean back then...
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My apologies bro notworthy.gif haha i mixed up between the articles posted by you and the one regarding castro rating posted by StarGhazzer. My bad my bad notworthy.gif . I have edited my post biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Zan81 @ Jun 3 2009, 04:51 PM)
Er... Actually I don't...

I was referring to the days of Vieira, Petit, Keown, Winterburn, Lauren... All hard men... And very prone to get red cards.
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We were the best defence back then. Letting only 15 goals if im not mistaken.

QUOTE(nLz | Lanpakali @ Jun 3 2009, 05:21 PM)
lol despite the youtube showings...

cana only been sent off once in four years..
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QUOTE(nLz | Lanpakali @ Jun 3 2009, 05:21 PM)
lol despite the youtube showings...

cana only been sent off once in four years..
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Actually i feel that more than 50% of the tackles that are shown in the clips are actually clean tackles. Most of the time Cana did touch and clear the ball away from the opponents before catching their legs. It's probably the aggression of the tackles that made him look badass. These kind of tackles most of the time can get away easily with a booking from ref. So it doesnt surprise me that he wasnt sent off as often as most people thought he ought to be. This dude does look promising. Seems like just the guy we need biggrin.gif . But i have to admit, i've never seen this guy play for real before. And we know youtube clips can make anyone looks godlike. Nonetheless, as a gunner, i still enjoy watching all his tackles especially when there're rumours of us linked to him. biggrin.gif It may be only a tiny puff of smoke, but it's better than none right biggrin.gif
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Guys,

any news on Arsene coming to KL this month? any purpose?
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QUOTE(overmars @ Jun 3 2009, 04:34 PM)
Arsenal could match the 12m price tag, but not the 100k per week salary that has been offered by citeh. If Arsenal do really offer that much of salary to Barry, it will definitely cause unrest in our dressing room since most of our more "senior" players and heck even RvP and Andrey dont get 100k per week. I rather not see that happen.
The signing of Barry is a marker for City. Unlike the Craig Bellamys and Wayne Bridges of this world, they have signed a player who could easily slot into Arsenal’s team. They have signed a player Arsene Wenger once wanted.

Maybe the Arsenal boss is eyeing somebody better. Maybe he has earmarked the new Patrick Vieira.

From one of the articles posted by Zan81 earlier *correction*  biggrin.gif
http://www.setanta.com//uk/Blogs/Ben-Black...-in-the-blocks/
hmmm  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif ... No news from Pool regarding Barry this summer probably shows that they have placed all their support for Alonso. No news from arsenal probably shows that :

1) Denilson and Song are good enough in the eyes of Le Boss. Le Boss did mention that the area he's most probably going to strengthen is our defence. He did not mention anything about our midfield if i remember correctly.

2) Le Boss already has someone better in his mind. *cough cana cough*  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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no need barry as man city snapped him up. Another unexpected signing from them. Barry
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i am rather disappointed in barry really. nevertheless now maybe arsene can step up and get cana or alonso or whoever FAST before citeh get them too.
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Frankly speaking, all these Alonso, Barry, Melo talks are just fantasy.
Arsene don't have much cash to spend so the new signings will most likely be bargain deals.
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QUOTE(kevlinefm @ Jun 3 2009, 06:52 PM)
Frankly speaking, all these Alonso, Barry, Melo talks are just fantasy.
Arsene don't have much cash to spend so the new signings will most likely be bargain deals.
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hey u nvr know.. arshavin came, didn't he?
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now king herry dreams comes true .. to lift Champions trophy .... n theres a rumors that he coming back to arsenal ... y ? because he seems doesnt feel comfortable at barca ..

and our policy is not taking back player that we sold ... but aw seems ready to welcome herry back if he wiling to ... his heart(herry) still with arsenal ... the 3 years contract with barcelona is about to end .. how was it everyone ? ..

but we still need experienced defender..

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Waa all top 4 EPL team banyak hutang lioaw include Arsenal whistling.gif whistling.gif, maybe next season again no more new cd and mid sweat.gif

Latest figures show Premier League clubs owe £3.1bn

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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Jun 3 2009, 01:47 PM)
Nice stats you got there.

As mentioned, although in raw eyes, Alonso is more superior than Denilson, statistically it isn't.

The stats show something. Whether it's important or not, it depends on individuals biggrin.gif

For me, Alonso is STILL ahead of Denilson. It's his presence in the squad counts (physically or spiritually). Having his presence in the squad allows leadership and role-models (things I mentioned in previous posts) to shine smile.gif I really could not see these in Denilson.

HOWEVER, it doesn't mean Denilson is nothing or we can throw away the stats. The stats shows that Denilson is a good player - technically on the field. He can be a good player, a good "executor", a team player. He still lack of LEADERSHIP and PRESENCE in the team. Something Arsenal really really needs the most!
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Which is exactly the main point of the article that was reiterated by the author in the comments if anyone bothered to read them as well.

Statistics show the best PERFORMER on the pitch, but it doesn't show which player is technically/physically/ or even psychologically better. A player can have the best technical ability in the world, but if he doesn't manage to produce results on the pitch (i.e. improve his stats) he's not going to be as effective as someone who does all the work well albeit in a less prominent/flashy way.

No one will doubt that Alonso has better experience and probably technical abilities, but to disregard Denilson's achievements this season or claim that he's never going to improve anymore, is absolutely discouraging, if not insulting to him.

QUOTE(kimhoong @ Jun 3 2009, 01:55 PM)
All these while, what about Cana I know are from articles, blogs, youtubes, etc... I never watch him plays, forget about watching him to play for a FULL MATCH. Anyway, most of what I read show that we need him smile.gif
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That's the problem with forum-hailed players... Cana, Veloso, Giovinco, and many others. Not to say that they are poor players, they must be doing something right to catch the eye of football fans; but I simply trust our scouts more than armchair football fans.

As for Cana, the clips make him look absolutely badass but go watch Baptista on youtube and he'll look like a worldbeater as well. I've only watched Cana once when Marseille took on Shaktar Donesk in the UEFA cup quarter finals (great game to be honest), and he wasn't as impressive as he looks on youtube. To give him the benefit of doubt, it might be just an off day for him.

QUOTE(kevlinefm @ Jun 3 2009, 06:52 PM)
Frankly speaking, all these Alonso, Barry, Melo talks are just fantasy.
Arsene don't have much cash to spend so the new signings will most likely be bargain deals.
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Bargain deals doesn't equate unknown/low quality. Andy is the best example. biggrin.gif

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I don't know why everyone thinks Gareth Barry's transfer is a bargain deal. 12m transfer fee and on top of that an 80k a week wage demand isn't exactly a bargain for a player in his last year of his contract which you can sign for free on a pre contract in 6 months time and at his age.

Ability wise I don't rate him all too highly as well to be honest. A good player no doubt and if we sign him, great, otherwise no biggie, move on. I am actually tipping the likes of Denilson or even Song to be far better players than Barry will ever be sooner rather than later.

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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Jun 3 2009, 08:24 PM)
Bargain deals doesn't equate unknown/low quality. Andy is the best example. biggrin.gif
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Bargain deals can be like Sagna and Eduardo. The positive ones.
Bargain deals can also be like Silvestre. The negative one.
Haha.
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QUOTE(sigheart @ Jun 3 2009, 09:52 PM)
I don't know why everyone thinks Gareth Barry's transfer is a bargain deal. 12m transfer fee and on top of that an 80k a week wage demand isn't exactly a bargain for a player in his last year of his contract which you can sign for free on a pre contract in 6 months time and at his age.

Ability wise I don't rate him all too highly as well to be honest. A good player no doubt and if we sign him, great, otherwise no biggie, move on. I am actually tipping the likes of Denilson or even Song to be far better players than Barry will ever be sooner rather than later.
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We are now trying to avoid the sooner and later possibility. We need an established player and made an impact. Else its gonna be the same old next year chant again.
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arrggghhhh y arsene bought silvestre? if he stayed @ mu, prolly he will be 3rd choice CB when vidic or ferdinand absence
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best bargain deal we ever had? I'd say Cesc. biggrin.gif

anyway, barry to mancity? ok la.. in it for the g's... so.. good for him. 80k per week and it's interesting to see how ManCity going to cope with it next season and aim for CL spot.

In my opinion, our weakest spot is the defence. That should be address first. then the CM/DM position, then comes other positions.

If Kaka really go to Real Madrid, I'd say goodbye to Adebayor.


Added on June 4, 2009, 1:05 amseems like Chelsea chasing Kaka... AW! bid for Essien!!!

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Arsenal sign Ajax stopper
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Sport.co.uk understands Arsenal have completed the signing of AFC Ajax centre back Thomas Vermaelen for a fee believed to be in the region of £10 million. According to sources inside the club, the deal for the Belgian international will be confirmed in the next 48 hours.

The 23-year-old moved to Ajax in 2004 from Antwerp outfit Germinal Beerschot and has since played 85 times for the Amsterdam giants as well as accumulating 21 caps for his country.

The news comes only hours after former Arsenal captain Tony Adams revealed that he had watched the player on behalf of Arsene Wenger but hinted that despite his obvious quality his physical attributes may let him down.

"I think Thomas is a very good player but I don’t think he’s ready for the Arsenal," Adams told Setanta.

"I don’t think the punters at Arsenal would like another small one.

"I don’t know whether he’ll end up going for a bigger player. We’ll see how much money we’ve got first.

"I have been looking at the Dutch league, but to be honest with you it’s been decimated.

"It’s a poor league at the moment, there’s one or two players but they’re leaving too early as well."



http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/20927...ax_stopper.aspx

I'm not sure how reliable sport.co.uk is so I'll post further updates as they come by. smile.gif

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Arsenal sign Ajax stopper
http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/20927...ax_stopper.aspx

I'm not sure how reliable sport.co.uk is so I'll post further updates as they come by.  smile.gif
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http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=40543&cc=4716

At first i actually thought that 180cm and 73kg is considered okay for a CB... After some research, it kinda surprises that me that Toure actually stands at 1.83m..So, Toure will be getting someone shorter than him as partner? hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif Of course, we have seen defenders who are around that height (Cannavaro??) that are considered world class. But is this the type of defender we need?? hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif Nonetheless, i will regard this as a speculation still i get news from soccernet biggrin.gif
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Let's hope it's for real this time since the last news I read about this transfer was Martin Jol trying to stop this transfer due obvious reasons brows.gif

Some news about Arsenal:

Adams: Gunners board not fully behind Wenger
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Source: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id...england&cc=4716

... and Barry apologies to the Villas' fans
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id...ansfers&cc=4716

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QUOTE(nairud @ Jun 3 2009, 06:15 PM)
Guys,

any news on Arsene coming to KL this month? any purpose?
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i think no posiibility arsenal coming to KL la...maybe mu came
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Zlatan slams Arsenal's transfer policy

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Spot on, Nikla! thumbup.gif
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are we confirmed we bought this thomas dude? No story also in UK yahoo.
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QUOTE(nairud @ Jun 3 2009, 06:15 PM)
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any news on Arsene coming to KL this month? any purpose?
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Just checked with AFCSM, the schedule is to be confirmed by the official organizer.

The following is the "brief" information, I have no idea if non-AFCSM members can attend the event. (but from experience, it should not be a problem) smile.gif

Date : Tuesday 9th June 2009

Time : 11.45 am

Venue : Padang Dataran Merdeka KL
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lol nicky.. thats why i love u =P. whats with arsene coming to kl anyway?
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lol nicky.. thats why i love u =P. whats with arsene coming to kl anyway?
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Maybe his scout spotted some talent in Malaysia? brows.gif u know Arsene always sign unknown player. Who knows his scout might spotted KimHoong playing brows.gif

As for Zlatan:
Sorry dude, we DID reach Semi of CL, Unlike you?
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QUOTE(zenox0123 @ Jun 4 2009, 10:07 AM)
Maybe his scout spotted some talent in Malaysia? brows.gif  u know Arsene always sign unknown player. Who knows his scout might spotted KimHoong playing  brows.gif

As for Zlatan:
Sorry dude, we DID reach Semi of CL, Unlike you?
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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Jun 4 2009, 02:27 AM)
Adams: Gunners board not fully behind Wenger
Adams: Gunners board not fully behind Wenger
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Regardless of his legendary status at Arsenal, Tony should just STFU. He stumbled in his managerial career, maybe not entirely his fault but he has yet to prove that he is someone of Arsene's calibre. I don't deny that some policies of our board members may have restricted Arsene's ability to run the team (eg transfers & purchases, contract negotiations), but when you don't have any details then maybe you shouldn't be sprouting rubbish to the press which adds fuel to the flames.

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QUOTE(little_mozart @ Jun 4 2009, 08:44 AM)
are we confirmed we bought this thomas dude? No story also in UK yahoo.
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Dodgy reports as there are no quotes, no announcements whatsoever. Plus the fact that the only "sources" or articles that we get are all copying each other's sentences.

Then again, I won't be surprised if we signed Vermalen (?spelling) without prior notice or even hints. Dudu was signed in a way that no one knew anything about it until the deal was sealed. At 23, Vermalen seems to be a good and young prospect; but if he really comes it means Sendy's gunner career is probably over. But we'll discuss this after confirmation of any news. Gunnerblog's reporting that all these rumours are hoo-hah-hoaxy so there you go.

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Last but not least... Love you Nicky... STFU Zlatan, you're not even an Arsenal player so why bother talking shit about our team?

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hehe kimhoong. make us proud! imagine.. u can introduce me to cesc wub.gif anyway, this dude we bought. is he any good? i have nvr seen him play

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I thought we havent officially sign anyone except the 16/17 years old?
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i think the guy we signed was 15 years old. not 16..heh
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OK my bad. Wasnt really paying much attention to early signing by AW really.
The quality always on the final shocking day shocking.gif

btw, let discuss:

Do you feel the partnership of Toure/Gallas/Djou/Silves is good enough?

I personally feels that Djou wasnt really ready for the 1st 11. Dont get me wrong, he is good and he is promising. However I dont see he is partnering well with either Toure/Gallas/Silves.

Toure and Gallas is a big NONO. I remembered that Toure once told AW that he couldnt stands Gallas's ego and requested a transfer.
I rate Gallas higher than Toure. Somehow Toure couldnt play the level he once before ever since returning from African Cup.

What do the rest of the Gunners think? We need to improve our defence. that it.
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OK my bad. Wasnt really paying much attention to early signing by AW really.
The quality always on the final shocking day shocking.gif

btw, let discuss:

Do you feel the partnership of Toure/Gallas/Djou/Silves is good enough?

I personally feels that Djou wasnt really ready for the 1st 11. Dont get me wrong, he is good and he is promising. However I dont see he is partnering well with either Toure/Gallas/Silves.

Toure and Gallas is a big NONO. I remembered that Toure once told AW that he couldnt stands Gallas's ego and requested a transfer.
I rate Gallas higher than Toure. Somehow Toure couldnt play the level he once before ever since returning from African Cup.

What do the rest of the Gunners think? We need to improve our defence. that it.
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maybe kolo cant stand gallas, but they did well when they partnered each other. we didn't concede any goals at home in the league and cl since robbie keane till gallas got injured. then the goals came rushing in... 7 in 2 games.. sigh
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maybe kolo cant stand gallas, but they did well when they partnered each other. we didn't concede any goals at home in the league and cl since robbie keane till gallas got injured. then the goals came rushing in... 7 in 2 games.. sigh
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they dont have to get along. they can hate each other for all i care. they can ignore each other and mess up each other's houses or watever ppl do when they hate each other, but as long as they dont let the goals in, i will be happy. even arsene said that 'not everyone has to like each other'
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But i think understanding each other is more important? Look at partnership of Ferdinand/Vidic. They covered each other nicely.

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wow did toure really said he couldnt stand gallas? i do think understanding is important, those small discontent might get in the way. if they both play sincerely for the club then it might be a big issue.
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QUOTE(zenox0123 @ Jun 4 2009, 11:01 AM)
Do you feel the partnership of Toure/Gallas/Djou/Silves is good enough?

I personally feels that Djou wasnt really ready for the 1st 11. Dont get me wrong, he is good and he is promising. However I dont see he is partnering well with either Toure/Gallas/Silves.

Toure and Gallas is a big NONO. I remembered that Toure once told AW that he couldnt stands Gallas's ego and requested a transfer.
I rate Gallas higher than Toure. Somehow Toure couldnt play the level he once before ever since returning from African Cup.

What do the rest of the Gunners think? We need to improve our defence. that it.
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Yes and no.

Individually, Kolo and Willy are top defenders. But as mentioned by Arsene throughout the season, the lack of height gives them a disadvantage in dealing with aerial balls. During early season when Willy was burdened by the excessive criticisms and the responsibility of the armband, plus Kolo's horrendous loss of form; this partnership didn't work well. Not forgetting that Denilson at that time was still learning the job and tends to drift upwards, leaving the defence uncovered.

But when we went on the unbeaten stretch Kolo and Willy were pretty solid. We didn't score many back then, but still the fact that our defence was producing clean sheets says something.

Kolo has been able to recapture his form and I think he shall retain his position next season, regardless of any newcomers. Willy, I hope he stays amidst all these speculation that he might leave (which are mainly baseless to begin with anyway); he's still our most experienced and best defender.

QUOTE(kaka91 @ Jun 4 2009, 11:16 AM)
they dont have to get along. they can hate each other for all i care. they can ignore each other and mess up each other's houses or watever ppl do when they hate each other, but as long as they dont let the goals in, i will be happy. even arsene said that 'not everyone has to like each other'
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Exactly.

Teddy Sheringham, Andrew Cole.

Nuff said.

New third kit? Well it's the speculated kit featured long time ago on arsenalinsider, and it is based on the same design as the new pyjamas kit. I won't be too surprised if we actually have this as our new 3rd kit, as we already had the experience of having 2 new alternate kits in 07/08.
http://the-cannon.com/2009/05/26/200910-3r...phy-at-anfield/

I still prefer the blue jammies... White makes it look even more like a polo top for golf.

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Top Ten IFFHS Club World Ranking (June 1, 2008-May 31, 2009)

*previous ranking in brackets

1. (2.) Barcelona (Spain) – 315 points
- (1.) Manchester United (England) – 315 pts.
3. (3.) Chelsea (England) – 276 pts.
4. (6.) Liverpool (England) – 248 pts.
5. (5.) Arsenal (England) – 247 pts.
6. (10.) Shakhtar Donetsk (Ukraine) – 245.5 pts.
7. (7.) Dynamo Kiev (Ukraine) – 234.5 pts.
8. (11.) Estudiantes (Argentina) – 232 pts.
9. (8.) Hamburger SV (Germany) – 228 pts.
10. (16.) Gremio (Brazil) – 222 pts.

IFFHS [International Federation of Football History & Statistics].

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Top Ten IFFHS Club World Ranking (June 1, 2008-May 31, 2009)

*previous ranking in brackets

1. (2.) Barcelona (Spain) – 315 points
- (1.) Manchester United (England) – 315 pts.
3. (3.) Chelsea (England) – 276 pts.
4. (6.) Liverpool (England) – 248 pts.
5. (5.) Arsenal (England) – 247 pts.
6. (10.) Shakhtar Donetsk (Ukraine) – 245.5 pts.
7. (7.) Dynamo Kiev (Ukraine) – 234.5 pts.
8. (11.) Estudiantes (Argentina) – 232 pts.
9. (8.) Hamburger SV (Germany) – 228 pts.
10. (16.) Gremio (Brazil) – 222 pts.

IFFHS [International Federation of Football History & Statistics].
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Just checked with AFCSM, the schedule is to be confirmed by the official organizer.

The following is the "brief" information, I have no idea if non-AFCSM members can attend the event. (but from experience, it should not be a problem) smile.gif

Date : Tuesday 9th June 2009

Time : 11.45 am

Venue : Padang Dataran Merdeka KL
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If this is to be believed seems we are close to signing Thomas Vermaelen for 10m pounds.

Arsenal Close To Signing Vermaelen

Then again it quoted The Sun as a source so I wouldn't get my hopes up too high considering how "reliable" The Sun can be.

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how true is this? if the arsene coming i sure wanna meet him leh..or see him from far... icon_rolleyes.gif
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I got this news from AFCSM newsletter.

You may go to their official site/forum (http://www.arsenalmy.com/) and look for the Club Contact for inquiries smile.gif

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guys it seen barry will join MC....

the price 12m... sure rr that news??
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guys it seen barry will join MC....

the price 12m... sure rr that news??
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confirm edi what
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id...ansfers&cc=4716
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barry news old news adi la. move on
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lolz... he said wan to be gunners... haiz...
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lolz... he said wan to be gunners... haiz...
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he said wan to play at UCL by joining arsenal... but now, just look how he can develope well at MC..
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I dont know how i'll feel about this signing or potential signing

http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/20927...ax_stopper.aspx

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i have learnt from experience that when someone says he wanna be a gunner, its not gonna happen ever! tongue.gif
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I dont know how i'll feel about this signing or potential signing

http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/20927...ax_stopper.aspx

He's only 180 cm dry.gif
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he 5cm taller than me..hehehe..can consider lightweight lorr..but nvermind..skertel also not so tall 4 me..but still commanding..
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QUOTE(iglue @ Jun 4 2009, 11:10 PM)
apparently he's signed already.
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Never believe anything until arsenal.com says so.


Our top scorer's achievements this season... if only there's a video about his assists and also shots that hit the woodwork.

Ade's agent is fanning flames again, although now he's saying that Milan hasn't approached us yet. Which means "Milan, come get him."
Bugger.
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Arsenal Target Juventus Duo Buffon & Chiellini - Report

Rumours linking Arsenal with moves for Giorgio Chiellini and Gianluigi Buffon have resurfaced in the English press, according to Tuttomercatoweb.com.

According to the report, two British papers have claimed Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger is devising a plan to lure the Bianconeri duo to London. It's not the first time the Gunners have been linked with the Juve defender. He was also the subject of great speculation during last summer's transfer market.

In addition, voices claim Wenger has also added Buffon to his summer wish list with a €20million bid being touted for the goalkeeper.

Juventus have always maintained they would not sell their star duo. Both men are a big part of the club's plans for the future, and it seems highly unlikely that they would be willing to sell.

Also, the reported €20m figure for Buffon seems a far cry from what the club are likely to demand for their man according to reports around Italy. It was not too long ago that Juve reportedly rejected a massive €75m bid from Manchester City for the custodian.


Source: Goal.com

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holiday?
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but who knows laugh.gif


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why arsene come to malaysia?
holiday?
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oo, i would like it if aw tries to get kaka!! =) i wanna go see arsene. unfortunately, my exams finish on wednesday. damn it
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varmaelan is just the type of signing AW would pull off.. not much news about it.. and price just right.

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QUOTE(ivanchin99 @ Jun 4 2009, 07:12 PM)
I dont know how i'll feel about this signing or potential signing

http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/20927...ax_stopper.aspx

He's only 180 cm dry.gif
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IINM, Micah Richard is also 180cm tongue.gif
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looks confirmed to me.

my friend's hotel is hosting a dinner for him
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QUOTE(nairud @ Jun 5 2009, 02:59 PM)
looks confirmed to me.

my friend's hotel is hosting a dinner for him
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looks confirmed to me.

my friend's hotel is hosting a dinner for him
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let's gatecrash the partey. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(little_mozart @ Jun 5 2009, 10:39 AM)
speechless...buffon to arsenal? It was not impossible. People create rumors for the sake of their marketing. I won't terkejut if tomorrow the story like 'AW tries to buy Kaka' will rise laugh.gif

but who knows laugh.gif


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duno..maybe spotting talent or something. They are reports that he interested in malaysian players rclxms.gif ekeke
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Another addition to the goalkeeper,
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Report: Arsenal Join Manchester City In Hunt For Wolfsburg's Edin Dzeko
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wow €27m for both player,
here goes the transfer fund!
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i bet yaya will not come. no way. barca won 3 trophys. we din win any in 4 years. not sure abt dzeko though


Added on June 5, 2009, 6:44 pmoh, and hazard says that he would like to join us one day. apparently arsenal is his childhood club. =)

http://www.setanta.com//uk/Articles/Footba...ure/gnid-55858/



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Anyone saw the news in The Sun where Zapata said Arsenal wanted him?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport...al-want-me.html

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so slow this month.. i don't think anybody is coming anytime soon. wait til end of the month/entering July. Maybe we'll see a signing or two. if we didn't sign anyone by mid july, then u guys have to wait til end of transfer window for any news.

it's been that way the past 5 years. biggrin.gif ehehehe
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and at the end we are probably gonna end up with a 15 year old next big thing who will leave us in 5 years time, a french player who is useless, but he is french, so he will start ahead of arshavin and an african player who will be in ANC. and arsene will say" we dont need big signings. we have diaby and silvestre and crap" hehe.. lets see if my predictions come true. we got the 15 year old already
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Stats freak galore !!
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/season-review-stats

Too bad they are merely for EPL and not all competitions.
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Udinese defender Cristian Zapata has claimed Arsenal are among the clubs interested in acquiring his services this summer.
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Zapata could be interesting. smile.gif
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Zapata, now that is one player i'd love to have at the arse.

This guy is a beast and he can head the ball well too biggrin.gif
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how tall is he? haha
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QUOTE(sOuLx @ Jun 6 2009, 01:26 AM)
how tall is he? haha
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haha!! ya agreed that arsenal need a giant defender
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that yaya toure rumor made me laugh... i dont think he wants to leave barca. not now

n nick is pretty fired up abt zlatan

Bendtner: Ibrahimovic is on the way down now and I'll be the world's best striker by 2012

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keep up the spirit, nick!

Wenger: I don't have to sell any of my players - Arsenal as a club are in excellent shape

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...coughdiabycough

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Andrey Arshavin Reaffirms Arsenal Allegiance
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nicky is the one guy who is never short on confidence. lol, how does he do it, one wonders?
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muakakakak RVP gei! ahahahaha
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HAHAHA, but rvp seems very young in the pic. Gay before marriage? blink.gif
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Is that Almunia or what?The sponsor is still O2 means sometime already.

And that pic is so ghey lol
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looks so young rvp....now he is world class player. Hope he commits to arsenal.

I still remember his 2 goals against blackburn in FA cup semi 2005 rclxms.gif
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Robin, world class? don't think so
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Jun 6 2009, 09:50 AM)
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QUOTE(toshio14 @ Jun 6 2009, 03:58 PM)
Robin, world class? don't think so
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If he isn't he wont score a single goal at all nor be the main striker of Arsenal.

If he is not who is?U?
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QUOTE(little_mozart @ Jun 6 2009, 03:37 PM)
I still remember his 2 goals against blackburn in FA cup semi 2005 rclxms.gif
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Kickass. Loved that match, loved those goals.

QUOTE(toshio14 @ Jun 6 2009, 03:58 PM)
Robin, world class? don't think so
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World class is a very vague definition, different people have different criteria for it.

I agree that Robin isn't world class yet. If he can do what he did consistently for consecutive seasons, then we can start considering him as world class. But not now, it's too soon.
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Jun 6 2009, 07:49 PM)
Kickass. Loved that match, loved those goals.
World class is a very vague definition, different people have different criteria for it.

I agree that Robin isn't world class yet. If he can do what he did consistently for consecutive seasons, then we can start considering him as world class. But not now, it's too soon.
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IMO, he is world class. Among the most creative striker in PREMIERSHIP. If not the MOST.

at least, his FREE KICK is world class laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Azurues @ Jun 6 2009, 07:38 PM)
If he isn't he wont score a single goal at all nor be the main striker of Arsenal.

If he is not who is?U?
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so, scoring a single goal makes you world class. the "legend" that is Pascal Cygan scored twice in a match against Fulham few seasons back, so does that made him world class in your eyes?

even his performances last season doesn't warrant him our main striker status just yet. for e.g. he's not always played in the striker position whenever we go with 1 striker in any matches. but of course that just my opinion

and me, world class? no no, but i'd like to think i can give my thoughts independently about our players without the Arsenal-tinted glass on

QUOTE(little_mozart @ Jun 6 2009, 07:52 PM)
IMO, he is world class. Among the most creative striker in PREMIERSHIP. If not the MOST. Can give names who more creative than rvp in premiership?

at least, his FREE KICK is world class laugh.gif
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fair enough bro if you think he's world class. he's still inconsistent for my liking, even his free kick last season still pretty hit and miss. he is certainly still too inconsistent to be called world class in my eyes

like SG said, different people have different criteria in classifying world class status. i just think the term being used too loosely by football fans nowadays

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I read in NST that AW comes to malaysia for coaching session to our national player laugh.gif
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QUOTE(little_mozart @ Jun 6 2009, 08:36 PM)
I read in NST that AW comes to malaysia for coaching session to our national player laugh.gif
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huh blink.gif i read NST twice today and i didnt find any news on his visit...
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huh blink.gif  i read NST twice today and i didnt find any news on his visit...
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I read the news in on friday or thursday. I also forgot.
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oh yeah.checked on afcsm website.they've finally put the event details.

Date : Tuesday 9th June 2009
Time : 11.45 am
Venue : Padang Dataran Merdeka KL

Tentative :
10.30am - Arrival of Arsene Wenger VIPs, FAM under 19 team & Officials
11.00am - Coaching Clinic for Malaysian Under 19 team by Wenger
11.45am - AFCSM Fans Photo session with Wenger
12.00pm - Public photo session with Wenger
12.30pm - Event ends
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QUOTE(sickx @ Jun 6 2009, 10:00 PM)
oh yeah.checked on afcsm website.they've finally put the event details.

Date : Tuesday 9th June 2009
Time : 11.45 am
Venue : Padang Dataran Merdeka KL

Tentative :
10.30am - Arrival of Arsene Wenger VIPs, FAM under 19 team & Officials
11.00am - Coaching Clinic for Malaysian Under 19 team by Wenger
11.45am - AFCSM Fans Photo session with Wenger
12.00pm - Public photo session with Wenger
12.30pm - Event ends
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cry.gif i wanna meet Wenger, but need to work..
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OMG, why does the clinic only 45min?
does enough to gain experience from superb youth coach like wenger?
i want to see him. but he bring along cesc or RVp sure it gonna be a hit!
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QUOTE(Liuism @ Jun 7 2009, 12:03 AM)
cry.gif i wanna meet Wenger, but need to work..
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I have exam on tuesday! Soooo wanted to see Arsene cry.gif

Can anyone record it to share with us? icon_question.gif
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"Arsenal striker Nicklas Bendtner has sent potential shock waves through the capital by stating that he much prefers Scandinavian girls to the English variety."

LOL wth?

What's wrong with preferring Scandinavian girls over English girls?

I think that shows how little stories the media is able to dig out regarding Arsenal. tongue.gif
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lol nicky.. guess i am out then =( tongue.gif whats with the news anyway? big deal. i wanna see arsene!! screw u a levels!

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