Yes, and women like you don't do shit to change the way this happens. It is a fact that this happens because women think they are entitled to what men earn ... and then complain about equal rights and all that jargon. So you want to be able to bum off men and have equal rights? You can't have both, woman, pick one or the other.

Tell me do full time mother exist?


Yeah ... so you're basically saying that a financially capable man is at least 20 years older than I am. So I should go for such men in order to guarantee my future? Hell no, I don't need a man to have a future!

Really? or shall I ask are you 18 years old? if you;re then its not time to marry and be a mother yet.
By the way nothing is guarantee in this life, just that chances can be higher only.


Changing your name to his doesn't give you entitlement to everything he owns. It just means that you are part of his family now. It's women like you that make men do prenups.

Again...read and understhand the first post, its about able to take care of family, not BMW or bottega. Actually I've spoken to a lot of successful man, professionals included, I ask them you prefer a house wife or a career woman, most successful man told me housewife, he feels more like being in a family.


Breastfeeding. And you're a mother? Wow.

yes to both. plus fulltime.

1. HE Wasn't? Are you kidding? Please go and check out who was the first person that insult people with vulgar words. I thought I have already mentioned the reasons why I flamed him. Did you read the post? Stepping into a thread without any fragment of facts given but plainly vulgar words. I will not respect a person who doesn't know how to respect himself and respect others.

Mind to estimate the living expenses of a normal family, a husband, a wife and a kid today? Please list them down here and share with us.
YES!

I place money above all. Simply because when I was a kid, I saw how hard my parents been working for the family. I know that money doesn't fall from the sky. You want to survive, you have to work hard and earn yourself and your family a living.

I find no way to see how a man is potential enough to be the leader of a family except from his financial capability. It's only a man who willing to strive hard and work hard bring him to how financial capable is today!

I do not want my parents worry if I and my children have enough food to eat, I don't want cling on my parents to spare me from the wedding day's expenses; I do not want my parents to spend the medical fees for my children; I don't want to burden my parents when I'm already married to a man, who can't afford to afford all these uncertainties. I know a man who truly loves me will not let me and our children starve for better nutritious food, better education, better learning environment and etc, when my name is no longer my given but entitled his surname and my name!

Happy?
Replied. Please read what I have answered sinchro.
Yes i know. The reason why I'm looking for financial security is as mentioned to sinchro above. Go and read.
Why now?
You can neither give me any real life example, kiddi.
Quote me the statement which I have mentioned this.
Have you ever thought of the living expenses of a moderate family?
List me the breakdown here, if you don't mind.
I have already replied. Please read the previous post.
I'm not going to repeat for second time.
i seriously doubt if you do understand where my stance is.
The children are not mine, but his, too.
Are you expect a woman to feed the children while her man is still struggling even to support himself?
Are you looking for a husband like this? I'm gonna send you a great present if you are going to marry such a man.
Have you thought of how much your parents spend for your family? Go and do some research and ask them before you come and question me.
Thanks!
The reason, I have mentioned above. Please read.

Man can bum off me if I betray him and cheat him.

Agreed but it's a personal choice. If she can live with the fact that no one respects her for the way she thinks, then it's her perogative.
LOL! now now kids.
When I say you are "barking up the wrong tree", I'm indicating that you are using the wrong approach to tell her she is wrong i.e. by trying to convince her that guys who aren't rich deserves a chance. It's like hitting a wall over and over again. She doesn't think they do so why go there?

Tell me do full time mother exist?

Really? or shall I ask are you 18 years old? if you;re then its not time to marry and be a mother yet. By the way nothing is guarantee in this life, just that chances can be higher only.

Again...read and understhand the first post, its about able to take care of family, not BMW or bottega. Actually I've spoken to a lot of successful man, professionals included, I ask them you prefer a house wife or a career woman, most successful man told me housewife, he feels more like being in a family.

Comparing extremes is silly. The choices you presented are obvious.

Equating security to just money is just absurd if you ask me. Before you quesion my credentials, I'm comfortable enough but it doesn't mean I advocate that money is of the utmost importance. If a person inherits money, and loses it for whatever reason (market crashes, bad investments, etc), he won't know how to get it back. If a person who worked for it loses it, he knows how to get it back. This is why I say one is more permanent than the other, plus the latter also gets more respect of the two.

Well it's like I said, to each his own. I personally think that getting the respect of others is more important than getting them to like you. You don't have to like someone to respect them. Oh well, we all have different priorities.

Dun play inside bushes again la.. so called "mother".

duke to me it's not her choice that bothers me, it's just her character of relying on others instead of herself, what do you think ?

yeah but he has every right to judge, it's just not a very nice thing to do

Agreed but it's a personal choice. If she can live with the fact that no one respects her for the way she thinks, then it's her perogative.
LOL! now now kids.

no more debating with you until you understand simple comprehension.

Looks like u r the one tat don't understand.
Its her own choice if she wants to think like that, what i want to point out is the "mindset" flaw not only to her but also to OTHER GIRLS
that have the same thinking influenced/blurred by $$$$$ in making important decision.

Understd? 

yeah...sorry, i was just merely responding to um...euphoria88? based on what he stated in that 1 statement, not generally.
just explaining why he could thrash you.

but he was merely responding to your statements albeit vulgar or not, i dunno who insult who 1st...sorry if it was he 1st.

so yeah, he was mean lah, but he was mean for a reason. no BASELESS, BASELESS assumptions at all.

u called him poor and stuff, that was BASELESS, from nowhere that came up from, u had no facts or clues at all to that.

he insulted u based on your statements, he could piece together clues to why he can insult u.

and respect? puhhhleaseeeee, ur just being a hypocrite kicking your own ass with your own statements, u dunno how 2 respect him then.
im sure u will defend, so yeah, respect should be given anyhow, wether he insulted u or not. why not?
u have to understand that, in order to strive and work hard to bring food to the table and good education requires some love. nobody is asking you to marry some garbage man, like i said, there has to be a good balance between love and money. through love, one will strive harder to keep his family safe and secure.

families can work with love even with not alot of money, note i said 'not alot' and not 'not at all'. through love, u can educate your children well enough to get a scholarship, or chase their dreams, not everybody wants to go through forced education. u can bring adequate food to the table, etc etc. but ultimately, u are all caring and loving for each other, happy.

if a deadbeat husband with nothing behind his back chooses to marry some girl with no financial security at all, then he obviously doesn't love her much, he didn't think of their future at all. that in my opinion, is just blind love and stupidity.
and u said yes? then okay, u deserve every right to be bashed and challenged heavily by the majority of people who don't agree with you. which i believe accounts for most of the posts here. 

and oh yeah, my love and respect goes out to spunkberry too  respect*

Yes. They feed their kids. Breastfeeding is free you know? Also, if you're talking about those housewives that don't use their brains and amuse themselves by gossiping with the neighbors about other neighbors, I have little to no respect for those people. Tell me you aren't one of them then maybe I'll forgive your little lapse.

Confirm you're not female, you've little respect for SAHM, so those career man and woman do not gossip in the office?
SAHM is not doing society good? I suggest you read more, but if you're 15 then nevermind (notice I down grade your age...yuo'll learn when you grow up

Oh my time to get married is sooner than you think, and yet I don't think like you. Huh... strange isn't it?

Yes its strange..

Then what's with all the "be proud that you've chosen a rich man"? Shouldn't it be "be proud of your man"?
You are deluded if you believe that men prefer a housewife because he feels more like being in a family. Those men are chauvinistic pigs.

Nope those are successful capable man, they've money and have absolutely no problem with providing, they want a nice cozy family

you disagree to fulltime mothers? are you even a female?

Confirm you're not female, you've little respect for SAHM, so those career man and woman do not gossip in the office? SAHM is not doing society good? I suggest you read more, but if you're 15 then nevermind (notice I down grade your age...yuo'll learn when you grow up

Nope those are successful capable man, they've money and have absolutely no problem with providing, they want a nice cozy family

I'm more than willing to reply your post. 

Before I reply you, can you tell me how much you know about my stance?

Thanks.

If girls have this mature mindset like spunkberry, my respect for them.

U have my respect too spunkberry 

Its not really a flaw. You just cant accept differences in priorities inherent in different individuals.

There is a difference between a girl who blindly go for $$ and a girl who choose to segregate her choice of marriage based on the prospective husband's wealth. One will never be pleased as she will always aim higher and higher, the other will be contend when her demands are met (ie security). And since moorish has finally settled down and happy with her choice, I would say she falls into the latter category.

Its like how some ppl choose their relationships based on the prospects height, weight, mindset...so too do some ppl based their importance on financial capability. And she will choose her potential mates from within this pool of ppl that matches her minimum criteria. And if you dont fall within this pool, the least u can do is to NOT kill other ppl's dream.

i highly respect women, and i acknowledge that the world would be a more peaceful place if it were ran by women. u can say i'm feminist in its purest form, i basically worship women. but respect also goes the other way round, and just some issues like the question in debate i find not respectable at all.

yes, I think you;re the only male in here that can read english.

correct...balance.

money and love...very balance

its like prehistoric woman shout chose a guy that can hunt n bring back food n protect the family...be proud of it.

but modern incapable man seem to have a problem with this theory, are you a lesser man?

yes, I think you;re the only male in here that can read english.

It was emphasize from the beginning when I say why woman are money minded, since prehistoric ages they look for man that can provide, todays equivalent would be money = security

and the mother instinct not kicked in part

It is never about prehistoric woman wants a giant airy cave to live in, expect to be carry around, demand to eat exotic T-rex meat, its all about meeting and creating a comfortable and workable, safe home to start a family.

Providing and security from a mothers point of view.

Woman inherit this instinct when they look for husband because they're preparing to be mothers, to have children. And in todays world sometimes the man just can provide all hence mothers needs to go out and look for jobs to compensate.

But man in CC expect mothers to work and compensate, failing to see their own failure to do so, plus they got part of their ego chewed and got emo. You should be ashame when you cant provide plus you want to twist this fact and accuse this thread its about enjoying life, about being lazy, you guys are young and never realize a breastfeeding fulltime mother do more and are stressed up more than all yuor years work add together.

Do you know how many mums go into depression? they kill their children!