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 Girls are money minded, And be proud of it.

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post Oct 8 2009, 10:48 AM

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I don't see how you can be high maintenance and not expect your boyfriend to be rich.
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post Oct 8 2009, 11:00 AM

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uh. you're either high or low maintenance ... what's all this about "levels"?
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post Oct 8 2009, 10:27 PM

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lol why is that I always see you get pwned, debbieyss
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post Oct 8 2009, 11:01 PM

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girls who choose only money or only looks are just bound for a failed marriage. Those things are so flimsy ... here today, gone tomorrow.
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post Oct 8 2009, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 8 2009, 11:26 AM)
I also don't know why, too  sweat.gif

But then, I ever sent a complaint letter to my college's vice president cos he ignored the facility of computer lab, which lacked of headphones for over 2 months and finally college called me and I met him up at his room face to face. At the end problem solved.

I don't mind they come and pawn me and flame me. Let's have fun!
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it's one thing to disregard or not take other people's opinions of you too seriously ... but to completely ignore them and be all "high and mighty" that you are right is something else.
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post Oct 8 2009, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(moorish @ Mar 18 2009, 06:23 AM)
So girls, be proud when you choose a rich husband, and to those girl who insist love is more important, they're just immature and the mother instinct not kick in yet, after few years of marriage they'll regret of their choice.
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be proud of choosing a rich husband? that's called "stuckup" and "arrogant" and a "show off". Be HUMBLE.
Be proud of your husband, not of your choice that he's rich.

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post Oct 9 2009, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 8 2009, 12:25 PM)
This is a great chance for me to speed up my typing skill so that I can think fast and type fast!

Not necessarily a good thing.
QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 8 2009, 12:25 PM)
I hope one day I would regret this mindset grown in my mind since I was secondary school. I seriously do hope so.

why not now? why not consider that you might have been wrong about some things since then and actually try to change them instead of defending them mindlessly regardless of whether they're wrong or not?
QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 8 2009, 12:25 PM)
So come and prove me that I'm wrong, you all guys who claim that gals look for financial capable men are evil!
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there's nothing wrong with finding financially capable men, but if that is your first and foremost criterion upon looking for a suitable partner, you need to seriously reconsider your priorities. Like I said to moorish's opening post, be not proud of your husband's wealth, but of him and thus be humble. You notice that people who act high and mighty about their wealth never have real friends.
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post Oct 9 2009, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 8 2009, 01:04 PM)
I don't see the negative side in being able to think fast and type fast.

That gives me the impression that you are rash and don't really think about what you're talking about. Like sinchro has pointed out, why are you here if you have no comment on what moorish has said? You seem to be out to set yourself apart from the rest of the gold diggers by saying you aren't one ... yet your first and foremost criterion of a man seems to be whether he's financially capable or not.

I say there is no difference. Wanting money and wanting money for security still has "wanting money" in the equation. Financial security doesn't last forever too, you know? Here today, possibly gone tomorrow.
QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 8 2009, 01:04 PM)
Why not now? Cos all the things I've been through keep on telling me that !

Yeah, but you just said you hope you will regret this mindset? So why not now?
QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 8 2009, 01:04 PM)
I have no comment about moorish's idea.
I just know me and her are looking for the same type of man.
Those financial capable men impress me, really.

Impress you? Or you're interested to know how they got to where they are and thus be able to support you and your shopping sprees?

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post Oct 9 2009, 04:04 AM

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okay how about this: why do you want to set such a high standard for a "financially capable" man when you're already financially capable yourself? Why bother getting married then, since it's SO difficult for you to find a good, financially capable man?

You have your own house, you say you pay for your own shopping sprees, you provide yourself with your own food ... why look for a financially capable man?
Why is it okay for you to bum off men's money and not okay for men to bum off you? Because you're a woman? Because you believe, as a woman, you are entitled to these things?

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post Oct 9 2009, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(moorish @ Oct 8 2009, 08:09 PM)
scrolled back and see how many guys agreed, read more in CC see how many guys accepted the fact no money no amoi.

Yes, and women like you don't do shit to change the way this happens. It is a fact that this happens because women think they are entitled to what men earn ... and then complain about equal rights and all that jargon. So you want to be able to bum off men and have equal rights? You can't have both, woman, pick one or the other.

QUOTE(moorish @ Oct 8 2009, 08:20 PM)
yea those who choose a 2k salary man will have a guaranteed future.. doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  tripple for you
smartass

2k is use since most guys below 30 are earning roughly this amount

Yeah ... so you're basically saying that a financially capable man is at least 10 years older than I am. So I should go for such men in order to guarantee my future? Hell no, I don't need a man to have a future!

QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 8 2009, 08:51 PM)
I do not want my parents worry if I and my children have enough food to eat, I don't want cling on my parents to spare me from the wedding day's expenses; I do not want my parents to spend the medical fees for my children; I don't want to burden my parents when I'm already married to a man, who can't afford to afford all these uncertainties. I know a man who truly loves me will not let me and our children starve for better nutritious food, better education, better learning environment and etc, when my name is no longer my given but entitled to his surname and my name!

Changing your name to his doesn't give you entitlement to everything he owns. It just means that you are part of his family now. It's women like you that make men do prenups.
QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 8 2009, 08:51 PM)
Why now?
You can neither give me any real life example, kiddi.

Real life example of when you can regret your current mindset? What nonsense are you talking about? It doesn't sound like you regret your mindset at all, let alone hope that you will regret it someday. (this whole regret thing doesn't make sense but I guess I'll use it so you'll know what I'm talking about).
QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 8 2009, 08:51 PM)
Quote me the statement which I have mentioned this.
Have you ever thought of the living expenses of a moderate family?

Yeah, so why can't you contribute to household expenses? Why must everything be on the man's shoulders? And then when he fails, you call him incompetent. What about you? All you would be doing is nagging him and not doing shit to contribute and you want to tell me about living expenses and financially capable men?
QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 8 2009, 08:51 PM)
The children are not mine, but his, too.
Are you expect a woman to feed the children while her man is still struggling even to support himself?
Are you looking for a husband like this? I'm gonna send you a great present if you are going to marry such a man.
Have you thought of how much your parents spend for your family? Go and do some research and ask them before you come and question me.
Thanks!

Yeah, and all that money that my parents spend on me is food alone. Again I reiterate: where is YOUR contribution to the family? Are you telling me that you are perfectly happy merely being the vessel from which children are sprung from? Sounds like it is because you keep talking about feeding your kids blah blah blah. Surely you're not SO concerned about your children when looking for a financially capable man? And that brings me to my mentioning your shopping sprees ...

You said it yourself that you are high maintenance and therefore need a financially capable man because of your preference for branded goods and expensive makeup brushes due to their quality blah blah blah ... and then you turn around and talk about looking for a financially capable man to feed your children. You're so all over the place is it really any wonder why I don't know what your stance is anymore?

QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 8 2009, 08:51 PM)
Man can bum off me if I betray him and cheat him.

So with that being said, you agree that when men betray and cheat on you, THEN you can bum off them biggrin.gif
All men in agreement say AYE!

QUOTE(Looi @ Oct 8 2009, 10:33 PM)
your pathetic word can only be matched by your pathetic attitude.  tongue.gif
QUOTE(teongpeng @ Oct 8 2009, 10:34 PM)
Your little name calling there just proved her point that you're hurting from the situation.
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It was justified.

QUOTE(moorish @ Oct 8 2009, 10:42 PM)
most kampung I come from mothers do not work and are fulltime...wonder how they feed the children doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  triple for you

Breastfeeding. And you're a mother? Wow.

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post Oct 9 2009, 11:53 AM

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yeah but he has every right to judge, it's just not a very nice thing to do
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post Oct 9 2009, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(moorish)
Tell me do full time mother exist?

Yes. They feed their kids. Breastfeeding is free you know? Also, if you're talking about those housewives that don't use their brains and amuse themselves by gossiping with the neighbors about other neighbors, I have little to no respect for those people. Tell me you aren't one of them then maybe I'll forgive your little lapse.

QUOTE(moorish)
Really? or shall I ask are you 18 years old? if you;re then its not time to marry and be a mother yet. By the way nothing is guarantee in this life, just that chances can be higher only.

Oh my time to get married is sooner than you think, and yet I don't think like you. Huh... strange isn't it?

QUOTE(moorish)
Again...read and understhand the first post, its about able to take care of family, not BMW or bottega. Actually I've spoken to a lot of successful man, professionals included, I ask them you prefer a house wife or a career woman, most successful man told me housewife, he feels more like being in a family.

Then what's with all the "be proud that you've chosen a rich man"? Shouldn't it be "be proud of your man"?
You are deluded if you believe that men prefer a housewife because he feels more like being in a family. Those men are chauvinistic pigs.
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post Oct 9 2009, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(moorish @ Oct 9 2009, 12:23 AM)
you disagree to fulltime mothers? are you even a female?

no that was not me disagreeing to fulltime mothers. that was me saying that people have a right to judge others, it's just not a very nice thing to do.

QUOTE(moorish @ Oct 9 2009, 12:23 AM)
Confirm you're not female, you've little respect for SAHM, so those career man and woman do not gossip in the office? SAHM is not doing society good? I suggest you read more, but if you're 15 then nevermind (notice I down grade your age...yuo'll learn when you grow up

How old are YOU then?
Oh, and I particularly hit on housewives because if they gossip, that's frickin ALL they do. You cannot compare that to career men and women because they have something housewives do not: OMGWTF THEY HAVE CAREERS!

QUOTE(moorish @ Oct 9 2009, 12:23 AM)
Nope those are successful capable man, they've money and have absolutely no problem with providing, they want a nice cozy family

lol or maybe they don't want to run the risk of having a wife that earns more than they do. Men who love family don't work very far or very often away from family. They don't designate that they want a housewife.



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QUOTE(moorish @ Oct 9 2009, 12:48 AM)
yes, I think you;re the only male in here that can read english.
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funny how you say that seeing that he trolls most of the time.

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post Oct 9 2009, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(moorish)
I'm 28

Not that many years older. If you were as old as my mom then whoa, sorry my bad. But yeah, even then I wouldn't agree with your way of thinking.

QUOTE(moorish)
Can I confirm this part you look down on fulltime mothers? because if you do then no point debating from you coz I would treat you like cockcroach and ppl who agree with you are the same cat as you

Uh ... I never said I disagreed. I already told you what I meant with that other sentence that you quoted. .. what's the problem now?

QUOTE(moorish)
Do you think career woman is greater than fulltime mothers?
I hear they say mothers love, mothers knows best, unconditional love comes from mothers
what is so great about career woman that it suddenly beats mother?
you come from office or from your mother?
wait did you got abuse when you;re young?

I didn't say career women are greater than full-time mothers. Your argument was that career women gossip just as housewives do and I pointed out the difference: career women have careers. They have other things to concentrate on other than amusing themselves until the husband/kids come home from work/school and therefore have active brain stimulus. Most housewives don't have that, and that's why they turn into those catty do nothing b****y women on Real Housewives and only spend their husbands' money.

I have respect for women who give up life careers to care for their children... but I don't think very much of those housewives who do nothing all day but knit and gossip and, like I said, wait for the husband/kids to come home before they have anything productive to do.

QUOTE(moorish)
I still suspect yuo're male. seems your ego is hurt

You can believe whatever gender I am, I feel no need to prove it. There are some here who know what I am, and that's good enough for me.
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QUOTE(moorish @ Oct 9 2009, 01:00 AM)
It means the pressure from being a fulltime mother is greater, hence exist portpartem depression and mothers depression.
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I was under the impression that depression meant sadness ... not murderous killing spree.
I was also under the impression that this depression happens because the mother is uncertain of herself, afraid of what the future may hold regarding the child ... maybe even questioning her own capabilities in raising a child.... not murderous killing spree.

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and I love how suddenly she says it must be a balance between money and love, when I'm pretty sure all this shit started because she was PICKING MONEY OVER LOVE IS THE MATURE WOMAN'S CHOICE
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post Oct 9 2009, 01:20 PM

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Okay let's see here ....

Postpartum depression:
Thoughts of hurting the baby
Thoughts of hurting yourself
Not having any interest in the baby

I've read about six pages on google now and not one of them says anything about killing babies.


Added on October 9, 2009, 1:22 pmLOL Why has the original post been edited and the incriminating statements removed or modified?!

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 9 2009, 01:19 AM)
I'm saying I have fully committed to him on the wedding day, changed my name by adding his surename on mine. Because of that commitment, I have to be there fore him for ups and downs. But I can't be with a man who is not self-motivated and at the end he can't even afford his own living expenses.

Well no man can be with a woman who isn't motivated to contribute to the household expenses either, which is what you're implying.
QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 9 2009, 01:19 AM)
If you can't even give me a shit of real life example to prove that your stance is commendable, I have nothing to continue with you.

I will wait for someone who can prove me the real facts so that I will regret one day. But I'm sure that person will NOT be you.
facepalm on you!

1. Do you know what facepalm is? It's not something you do on other people.
2. You are confusing me more and more on this. You want me to "prove you the real facts so that you will regret one day" but that wasn't what we were talking about at all! We were talking about how you hoped to change your current mindset in the future and I was saying that it doesn't look like you're going to change it so why hope? Fehem?

QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 9 2009, 01:19 AM)
facepalm on you again.

LOL I love how you're using it in the wrong context .... I'm just imagining you facepalming someone and that's REALLY FUNNY! AHHAHAA!!!
Tak tau guna, janganlah guna sayang..

QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 9 2009, 01:19 AM)
Since when I said I need husband's money for my maintenance?

Do i need to tell you my marriage plan and after-marriage plan to you? How many times I am planning to make love with my husband in order to have children? How many times for him to penetrate in me to get a baby boy?

All you have to understand about my statement before flaming me is what I'm actually looking for in a marriage and a capable man. Apparently you are like those streetkids, you never read my posts before flaming me.

If you want. Not that I would really listen.

QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 9 2009, 01:19 AM)
Please seperate high-maintenance fees and financial capable man into 2 different cases.

I want him to be financial capable not because I want him to support my personal high-maintenance. Before and after marriage I have my own financial management method for high-maintenance fees.

The reasons why I'm looking for a financial capable man, I have replied as above. Please read.

which brings me back to my original question: why would you want to bother looking for a financially capable man when you're so financially capable yourself? Are you one of those women who can't decide whether they want equal rights or to be weak and require a man to function? You can't have both, you know?

So you want to get married for the sake of getting married? Because it seems to me to be like "Oh he must first be financially capable ... then see if there's love, then MAYBE lorrrrr...."
QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 9 2009, 01:19 AM)
Spunkberry, I respect you one of the good female forumer who reads others' posts before flaming and contirbuting your great awesome ideas and judgements/comments. Please don't let me repeat to you that you don't read my posts before posting! I'm not going to response you any more if you drive me to the extend that I have to quote my post and reply you!
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spunkberry flaming == spunkberry trolling idiots.

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 9 2009, 02:01 AM)
And have i said if i've become a mother i will not do any houseworks at all?
the definition of "facepalm" isn't within the debate content.

I'm trying to say since you guys want to change my mindset and make me regret, I'm willing to do so. Please give me more facts and real life issues in order to convince me. But none of you actually have done it. NONE of you.

Which means you all are plainly say things out of concrete facts and all are your imagination and I can see are vulgar words, "stupid", damngod, bullshit etc...you name it.

Yes, I'm not going to change my mind simply because even though I'm more than willing avail myself here to let you all flame me, none of you are able to convince me with concrete evidence and statements, including you Spunkberry.

Apparently you can't read between the line.
Thanks for your sacarstic criticism.

It shows that you're not a mature person with compassionate personality. What's the value of your statement when you are teasing people this way?

Your personality gain me no trust to believe that what you're saying is correct.
Read the meaning, not the words!

I'm saying I am not going to tell you the details of my marriage plan as this is not what you should concern about to judge my mindset.

I can't believe you have such a poor comprehenssion skill.
If I want to married for the sake of married, I have already married long long time ago.
You have gained yourself a reward.

Yes, go and study hard, little gal.
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1. Calling me immature doesn't make you mature.
2. Talking down to me doesn't make you a bigger person, it makes you petty.
3. Well read the second part of my "sake of getting married" sentence.
4. My comprehension or your grammar/spelling/1337 minister speech writing english?
5. You really like to pay attention to the vulgar words, point them out, call the user out, and then fail to continue your argument.
6. Why would I want to be compassionate towards you? I think I would be more compassionate towards moorish than you, and that's saying something.
7. Words == meaning. Say what you mean, mean what you say.
8. And yet again you fail to understand what I meant about the whole "mindset changing thing". Why do we need to provide the reasons why you should change? Shouldn't you be doing that yourself? Or are you just being lazy?

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