I think all moorish is saying is that:

The chances for true love to blossom is equal wether or not one is rich, so why not take your chances with the richer ones.

Right?

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Added on October 6, 2009, 1:42 pm

HAHAHA thats a good one

main buntut with other guys.

die la you 7chai...

continue looking for their true love 

...which is actually the basis for this debate.

I can't help to laugh crazily at this!

LOL

To those losers who aren't self-motivated to aim higher, insist to stay at comfort zone, and claim that gals who look for financial capable bf/husbands are materialistic, below are something for your pleasure reading.
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Added on October 7, 2009, 11:13 am

The answer is yes, and yes not only to rich, as mention 1 million times, money is only part of the criteria, husband quality material is needed too. I've never mention about running after the richest man I can find.

Yes, good one!

Only those incapable man will need and ask wives and gf to work.
A man if he is a real man with self-motivated attitude, will try his best to settle his financial capability, ALWAYS, despite of how hard it is!

My father even goes to work when he is sick, he brought his medicine along to work. He even works during public holidays.

I could hardly see any of the youngsters or those who claim they are average man have this kind of attitude. Basically, it's just wasting of time to talk to those who are not married and haven't set up a family yet.

You should know that I'm taking this as an example to show what it means a self-motivated attitude a guy should have.

If I'm assuming this as a role model for all men to follow, I should have put more examples as much as I could imagine.

Having own business or working 9 to 5 is doesn't matter, what's more important is the attitude. You all scream for gender equality, have you ever thought of if you have done your best for your career? What makes me feel funny is that some of the forumers claim that earning 5k per month is enough, some of them even says 2k per month is enough (check out the thread "Gf left me, she say i am poor". How to enough if taking public transport to work needs RM5 to RM7 per day and RM140 per month? I haven't even included the time wasted in taking public transport. In this case I have not much to say if you have installments to buy a car.

These childish people who says 2k or 5k per month is enough, I really doubt if they are too genius in mathematics or they are too used to be in comfort zone, or they are just plain lazy to aim high and thus critisize women who go for financial stable guys are materialistic. They say they are average, I don't know which part of their body or their belongings is average enough!

The formula is just simple:
self-motivated = financial stable (rich)

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Added on October 7, 2009, 11:51 am
I enjoy working is one thing, my husband/bf asks me to work is another thing. 

I just ask you few question:
1. how much you can save when inflation keep flying high but your salary remains in 5k? Have you thought about children's education? Let say you want to send them to local uni, how confident you are that your children manage to enter local uni? Have you tried to do research on the tuition fees for a private college 10 years ago with the current one?

2. why put "unless"? why don't you even give it a try to make it comes true either invest in stocks market or set up own business? Have you thought of why those employees been fired? Is it because their value too high or too low? Being fired doesn't mean you can bring this as an execuse to stop yourself from climbing high, instead find a way to groom up yourself and do better.

I always believe there's a will, there's a way. If you want to success, give yourself no execuses.

3. why claims all gals who pursue self-motivated and financial stable husband/bf = gold digger and high maintenance? Gals want to see security in the future, earn much money doesn't mean you have to spend them off for luxury, but to save up for futures' uncertainties, but to at least have a better nutritious meals and not just telur masini and kampung fish; buy some better quality clothings that last long and presentable and not those pasar malam clothings or slippers that last only few months or half year; send children for private colleges IN CASE they are not manage to enter local uni; go for private hospitals IN CASE have to queue up long at government hospitals where careless surgery cases happened nowadays; etc etc...

So you tell me, this way of spending money is materialistic? Is gold digger? All these are money. Tell me how much you need to spend for insurance of 4 persons (you, your wife and your 2 kids, let say), with only 5k per month?

If you have really thought of these issues, you will realise that aim high for good salary doesn't mean that person is materialistic. Value attitude of "aim rich" in different angles.

Ya.. my respect to them oso. 

this thread can continue for millions years until  Girls are money minded NO MORE.....

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Added on October 7, 2009, 3:11 pm

I think she is looking and seeing reality now.

hello, men lagi money minded =.=

@All guys: Looking over the thread, I kinda agree with debbie and I am a guy. Before you go on bashing her more, I wanted to quote her thread that 7Chai replied to; just stuck deep into the pages de till I lazy find.

I can see her concern because too many a time I meet in life there will be a guy who wants to be rich/power/keng/etc but never start or do anything. End up is just talk, no result and worse is bash people who want to make something of their lives.

Good:
People who make effort the right way is good guy la. Got 1 friend work and found not enough money so do part time. He also open minded to find new jobs that can pay better.
My friend's dad- grandpa gave him 1 shop to handle as a handover. He turned it into 2nd board listed company. GG (ideal for you right debbieyss?)

No-nos:
Old workmate in my office? Say no money, go back damn sharp at 6 pm (office official hours at 6), and no bother to learn more value skills. Old workmate of my friend? Complain about job lousy, want to cabut from study bond by company etc. Din't bother to apply jobs elsewhere till now still stuck in old job. My friend got new job elsewhere which bought his bond over. How's that for size?

As a guy myself, I used to be a no-nos. Talk only no steps done. Now changing for better; contact franchise, contact mall for rental space, going to view house to buy to rent, visit bank ask for loan package etc. Need start some steps la. Damn sked end up a no-no again.

On the side note, guys would have no problem getting girls when the are on the good side as I mention. Also, since they have a choice- you can pick la which type of girl you want: If you want good girl, OK no probs. If you want normal girl, also OK. If you want gold diggers, OK also no prob. Up to you.

@Girls who are pro this thread: Remember if your guy is something that you like, then your peers and those who think like you would be eyeing that man too. Make sure you up your ante to keep that man. Like in CC thread here many guys find difficult to maintain pretty gfs.

I think I know why all this confusion, girl are not like man, we expect the man to take care of us and family, hence we've high expectation for the man. But the man when he cant meet this expectation he will say wah you think you're princess ah.

I think what debbies trying to say is she wants a commited, hardworking, entrepreneur man who doesnt give up. Fair enuf if thats the standard she wants from her future husband.

Me on the other hand, needs a rich husband, loving, more homely type, I dun really like those working 16 hours a day where I never get to see him type.

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Added on October 7, 2009, 5:31 pm

Good choice debbie, nowadays dun trust baby sitter for our baby, and breast milk is very important. Do you know that nowadays education start from first month of babies life?

So best thing to do is we take care of baby fulltime.