Please dont be stupid. If go to RWI i cannot post oneliners like this liau. Here have a facepalm

Just give them money lah , since its love wert. U don't love her then better don't involve , once commit , just bloody pay that bills lolx!!!

I rest my case.

Darn such a heated debate and I missed most of it.

Forget about what's right and wrong for awhile. We all have different agendas in life and different levels of ambition. Some want money and thus do sales. Some would rather climb the corporate ladder to gain recognition. Some want to work to earn their own money while others don't mind waiting around for money to fall into their laps. Right? Wrong? Who is to judge?

In the end, I ask myself how I want to be remembered by my family, friends and acquaintances when I'm gone. Was I caring? Was I hard working? Was I honest? Was I responsible? How do I want to be remembered? I have answered these questions and I live my life in a manner which will allow me to be remembered the way I want to be.

If someone doesn't mind being remembered as a bum who leeched off his parents his whole life for example, who are we to judge? We decide if we want to respect the said person or not, then we move on. We don't tell them that they should be better for it's for them to decide. I personally have little respect for people who advocate "money" instead of "success". What is the difference? The former is purely material. The latter while also material, also comprises of intangible items like attitude, character, etc.

Dude what do u think you're doing!! you make so much sense you're going to single handedly kill this epic discussion!

If u emphasize more abt "mother",

mother - a woman near saint level, mothers love and so on, a woman care for the family and children, attentive and so on

Wah.. suddenly loves becomes more important ady r?

No more emphasize on security ($$$$) rich guy more important than loves for those normal hardworking guy?

Irony... why u wrote:

"to those girl who insist love is more important, they're just immature and the mother instinct not kick in yet, after few years of marriage they'll regret of their choice.

So to girls who choose on love.... wait till you grow up, its always wiser like our ancestor has put the genetic on our blood, go for security!

modern girls replaces security with money bcoz this world are fueled by money. And why I was saying if the girl who chooses love if she was given a choice with a rich guy who loves her is immature:

You're not thinking of your future, worse you allow your children to suffer just bcoz of your impulses on love. Love grows thinner in most cases.

so which will you choose, a man who take money from the parent, or a man that works hard for the money?

Moorish answer.
If marriage I would pick A
If pak toh I would choose B.

Security (MONEY) takes up 60% of a womans decision when comes to choosing husband. And its perfectly normal.

I have two guys to choose to be my future husband :-

(a) He is financially secure with 5 figure income every month with own business with age of 25. Treat me well and I can spend luxuriously . Not much worried financially. He can provide everythings such as house, car, petrol, foods, shopping, holiday, entertainment etc..
But he is not high educated, smoker, bad attitude, bad family background. He love me but I dont have d feeling.

(b) He is just an employee with age of 30. Graduated from Inti College in Civil Engineering. Salary per mth only less than rm4k. But good n polite family background, good attitude, socially smoker,treat me good. Even if no $$, also will buy gifts to make u happy. Planning to do business when have $$. He love me and i love him too.

For u guys opinion, whom should i choose? Actually i have chosen, but i just want to hear u guys opinion.
Thanks all

Moorish reply..

Choose A
Do you never hear the classic tale?, when young time both can drink water and pretend its diner, struggle for him, help him out in the rent and so on, when he made it big in his 30s he will have a PRC woman as a kept.

If pak toh, you choose the one you love and enjoy the time
When talking about marriage you choose the secure one, are you even a woman?


A normal good hardworking guy also deserve fair chance of love from girls and also they can get married.
Girls shouldn't just marry a guy with more $$$$ only since $$$$ is more important for u.
Tats very immature thinking... shame shame.

This post has been edited by viper88: Oct 9 2009, 11:09 AM

This post has been edited by moorish: Oct 9 2009, 11:18 AM

Comparing extremes is silly. The choices you presented are obvious.

Equating security to just money is just absurd if you ask me. Before you quesion my credentials, I'm comfortable enough but it doesn't mean I advocate that money is of the utmost importance. If a person inherits money, and loses it for whatever reason (market crashes, bad investments, etc), he won't know how to get it back. If a person who worked for it loses it, he knows how to get it back. This is why I say one is more permanent than the other, plus the latter also gets more respect of the two.

Well it's like I said, to each his own. I personally think that getting the respect of others is more important than getting them to like you. You don't have to like someone to respect them. Oh well, we all have different priorities.

Dun play inside bushes again la.. so called "mother".

I'm not confusing others. That is wat u wrote earlier on ur views.

There are so many ppl here find ur point of view already obsolete.

Highlighted to u, but u are still in denial state..... shame shame X2.

Again, can u tell us wat u wrote earlier? Lap sap?

U wrote.

so which will you choose, a man who take money from the parent, or a man that works hard for the money?

Moorish answer.
If marriage I would pick A
If pak toh I would choose B.

Security (MONEY) takes up 60% of a womans decision when comes to choosing husband. And its perfectly normal.

I have two guys to choose to be my future husband :-

(a) He is financially secure with 5 figure income every month with own business with age of 25. Treat me well and I can spend luxuriously . Not much worried financially. He can provide everythings such as house, car, petrol, foods, shopping, holiday, entertainment etc..
But he is not high educated, smoker, bad attitude, bad family background. He love me but I dont have d feeling.

(b) He is just an employee with age of 30. Graduated from Inti College in Civil Engineering. Salary per mth only less than rm4k. But good n polite family background, good attitude, socially smoker,treat me good. Even if no $$, also will buy gifts to make u happy. Planning to do business when have $$. He love me and i love him too.

For u guys opinion, whom should i choose? Actually i have chosen, but i just want to hear u guys opinion.
Thanks all

Moorish reply..

Choose A
Do you never hear the classic tale?, when young time both can drink water and pretend its diner, struggle for him, help him out in the rent and so on, when he made it big in his 30s he will have a PRC woman as a kept.

If pak toh, you choose the one you love and enjoy the time
When talking about marriage you choose the secure one, are you even a woman?

A normal good hardworking guy also deserve fair chance of love from girls and also they can get married.
Girls shouldn't just marry a guy with more $$$$ only since $$$$ is more important for u.
Tats very immature thinking... shame shame.

This post has been edited by viper88: Oct 9 2009, 11:29 AM

Think you're barking up the wrong tree mate. You cannot say you deserve a chance. If someone feels you do, they'll give it to you but you can't shove it down someone's face. She doesn't speak on behalf of the entire female population fortunately. If she wants to marry a guy because he's rich, then that's her perogative. There is no need to tell her she is wrong, because I'm not so sure she is. It's just a choice she's made.

I'd approach it from another angle.

Yes, and women like you don't do shit to change the way this happens. It is a fact that this happens because women think they are entitled to what men earn ... and then complain about equal rights and all that jargon. So you want to be able to bum off men and have equal rights? You can't have both, woman, pick one or the other.


Yeah ... so you're basically saying that a financially capable man is at least 10 years older than I am. So I should go for such men in order to guarantee my future? Hell no, I don't need a man to have a future!


Changing your name to his doesn't give you entitlement to everything he owns. It just means that you are part of his family now. It's women like you that make men do prenups.

Real life example of when you can regret your current mindset? What nonsense are you talking about? It doesn't sound like you regret your mindset at all, let alone hope that you will regret it someday. (this whole regret thing doesn't make sense but I guess I'll use it so you'll know what I'm talking about).

Yeah, so why can't you contribute to household expenses? Why must everything be on the man's shoulders? And then when he fails, you call him incompetent. What about you? All you would be doing is nagging him and not doing shit to contribute and you want to tell me about living expenses and financially capable men?

Yeah, and all that money that my parents spend on me is food alone. Again I reiterate: where is YOUR contribution to the family? Are you telling me that you are perfectly happy merely being the vessel from which children are sprung from? Sounds like it is because you keep talking about feeding your kids blah blah blah. Surely you're not SO concerned about your children when looking for a financially capable man? And that brings me to my mentioning your shopping sprees ...

You said it yourself that you are high maintenance and therefore need a financially capable man because of your preference for branded goods and expensive makeup brushes due to their quality blah blah blah ... and then you turn around and talk about looking for a financially capable man to feed your children. You're so all over the place is it really any wonder why I don't know what your stance is anymore?


So with that being said, you agree that when men betray and cheat on you, THEN you can bum off them
All men in agreement say AYE!

It was justified.


Breastfeeding. And you're a mother? Wow.

This post has been edited by spunkberry: Oct 9 2009, 12:06 PM

duke to me it's not her choice that bothers me, it's just her character of relying on others instead of herself, what do you think ?

This post has been edited by nickisthemost: Oct 9 2009, 11:53 AM

You're not her father.

yeah but he has every right to judge, it's just not a very nice thing to do

you're not even duke

You're not even cool.

I didn say anything abt myself here to deserve chance ..
Dont get the wrong pic.
Read the posting properly.

Its HER OWN point of view. She feel its the right thing to do and encourage other girls to do the same.

No need to tell her she is wrong?
Its fine if u dont want to do so.

If u are not so sure she is wrong.
Den how sure are u, i and the others are barking the wrong tree. ?

cause i'm hot

Lame comeback. try again? Gip 2 more chance.

Agreed but it's a personal choice. If she can live with the fact that no one respects her for the way she thinks, then it's her perogative.

LOL! now now kids.

When I say you are "barking up the wrong tree", I'm indicating that you are using the wrong approach to tell her she is wrong i.e. by trying to convince her that guys who aren't rich deserves a chance. It's like hitting a wall over and over again. She doesn't think they do so why go there?