Was he aware u have a bf?

Wat if the new guy is well-off but his "well-off" is not self-made? But sufficient to last for a very long time, though not super amount but enough for 3 kids to go oversea study!

Cheers again

This post has been edited by TheLastFew: Oct 6 2009, 07:08 PM

There is a difference between a woman who goes for a rich guy, and a woman who go for a richer guy.

Its best moorish clarify which category she's arguing for.

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Added on October 6, 2009, 7:38 pmum kid...shut the fuck up? if u understand it why dont u clarify more?

This post has been edited by teongpeng: Oct 6 2009, 07:38 PM

why not make it sound so nice? its in your imagination that I'm evil.

If i'm force to choose then it would be No.2, but why not make it sound more dramatic, you should say the average guy once saved my fathers life

Seriously do you know how much it cost to have a baby in 2009?

welcome welcome

its selfmade, incase you miss the whole point, money isnt everything, if it was I wouldnt be with my hubby.

erm you mean average people can't afford a baby ? lol

This reminds me of my friend real life experience.

My guy friend - A
Only child in his family. living with family.. average family type.. single storey house, drive Wira and Nissan old car.

ok ok leng lui - B
Living with family, average family,

In university, A met B.. try to make fren - success.
In uni 3.5 years time A want B more than fren..alwys try to confess - fail, reason given by A.. study time duwan involved into special BF& GF relationship.

A alwys hlp B in uni assignment and even spend alot of time with B instead of studyng well to get good grade..

Come out to working life.
1st year
A - work as a programmer. pay abt 2000.
B - still looking for work.. jobless.

A confess to B, B said no.. only good friends coz she wants to get a good career life 1st..Career important for her.
She like guys with spikey hair, body well build, confident and stable in financial.

2nd year.
A- still work as programmer have some experienced ady.. boss sent oversea SG & Thailan to do client work. pay abt 2500
Chg outlook. went to GYM workout .. etcs..
B - work as normal admin office work.

A confess to B, B still said no only can be good friend...she said working life is hard.. she wants to look for bf who is working as profesional in line eg.. Doctor, Engineer, etcs earn stable high income and can help take care of her and family.

3rd - 4 th year.
A - Senior Programmer. pay up ady Pay abt. 3K++
B - quit admin job, doing insurance coz heard alot ppl make big money in selling insurance line... dream big. but in the end no client, no good sales.. quit and kwai kwai go back into admin job line ...

A confess to B, B said can only be special friend, she still plans to look for bf/hubby who are professional n stable type.

This 4 years.. A try very hard to kaw B, bring her holiday, go movies, expensive restaurant dinning, buy hp and gifts etcs. BUT still the most SPECIAL friend only.

He told me many times during yam cha session, he is very sad and even have tears because he loves B very much but B cant accpt him as bf.
He also said he have tried improves alot to makes her accept him but still failed and wanted to give up on her already..coz spend alot MONEY and TIME. She only gives B some hints and abit hope there might be some changes coz she start to feel touched by my friends determination.

I told him.. u have try ur best so if she don't accpt you, go for other girls who can accpt him.
Breakoff is the best if A feel very hard to accpt the fact tat B set a very high expectation for her future bf/hubby.

A said he will not give up but still be special friends to B.

5th year.
A - Anlyst consultant pay abt 4K++
B - still normal admin job..

A - grandparents pass away, his father eldest son in family inherited one big lump sum of money.
His father buy new double-storey house, sold old wira and nissan car n change car Toyota vios and Nissan X-trail..
When i go his house i oso shock.. suddenly my friend

B - Age about 27 ady..

A stills goes out with B driving new car VIOS and bring B to his new parents bigger house for CNY... den.. the MIRACLE thing happen.. B finally accepted A's loves.!

A so happy he told me the feeling when B accpted him is like his soul flying out from his body heading to heaven liao..
I feel abit suspicious on B, coz after so many years.. 4 years not including uni years.. B alwys rejected A, only treat his as normal/best/special friend. Why suddenly B chg her mind. A said... maybe B feel touch by his sincerity n effort. I told him to be careful coz maybe she's saw his family and his work financial chges only accpted him.. not to mention she's getting older 26 and still cant find any DOCTOR/ ENGINEERS/ Professionals yet to become bf/husband. If A suddenly lost job, etcs.. maybe B will leave him la.. A said he don't care wat B thinks abt his financial but as long B accpt him now he is happy already. I wish A gud luck la..

Then by the age of 28.. B married to A ady. Finally A can reap all the harvest he sowed after many years.

This post has been edited by viper88: Oct 6 2009, 08:37 PM

nick. you got pm

this i what i call today scenario of BF & GF relationship.

Actually not kenot afford la. But its really spreading ur hard earn pretty thin. NOwadays household income estimated to be rm10k and more just to support a family with one kid in KL. Even that is cukup makan only. No leisure expenses and all. And can forget about savings.

This post has been edited by used2bcow: Oct 6 2009, 08:44 PM

I didnt say that, I'm asking you if you know.

"go find a rich husband la since security ($$$$)".... if female want chose this decision.... she must prepare the life like the wife of king of macau casino, stanley ho which he is few wife... if cannot... ask the female think carefully before doing decision....

basically it is about the evil of money.

you need money to have a baby born in nice enviroment.

Come to think of it,why don't do it at General Hospital...it is cheaper and affordable.
know why??....leceh mah...need to register at Goverment clinic 1st before you can visit before can refer and give birth in General Hospital.

which is why bringing a new baby to the world is so darn expensive as compared to your mother or even grandma time.

tell me..why the changes??? the General Hospital still there.cost might have gone up but still below 1k.
it is all about pampering,nice comfortable surrounding and

Yes!! i am not saying it is wrong but just that time changes as we coming into new age.

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Added on October 6, 2009, 8:57 pmthat if you decided want to pamper yourself at nice hospital

surely expensive!!

This post has been edited by MakNok: Oct 6 2009, 08:57 PM

another one...we're way way passed rich husband are evil

Thank God I married my hubby, at least he pampered me and insist I've the best experience possible, he fully understand the sufferings I was going thru and always say this is the best he can do, you ever heard all the horror stories how the nurse very rough and stitches on your down there how they cincai do it?

btw bringing the child is one thing, you know now they start nurser/kindergarten at 3 years old? you know it cost 2k a year for those normal taman type, not luxury ones.

I dun trust general hospital with my life let alone the life of my loved ones. Imagine your loved one's life being threatened and the nurses and doctor just 'slumber' only. I've lost my father because of this. Not to say is the doctor's or nurse's fault. Is the fault of the system. Not enuff funds. Alwiz not enuff funds. No thank you. Better to minimize the risk. Anyways, quoted amount of rm10k a month doesnt even include the maternity period.

Yup... sad.. i feel pity for those guy who have gf or wife like B type.
They should have dump B long time ago.

Wat say u moorish?

This post has been edited by viper88: Oct 6 2009, 10:24 PM

After a long idling period of this thread and now again the debate started, I've to say thank you guys for reminding me how lucky I am, I feel so lucky and never regretted my choice, in fact if you guys would pardon I would like to use this word I cant feel any "righter".

Guys who think that I should go govt hospital to have a baby, and me going to work while breast feeding my baby, guys who think mom who stayed at home look after baby are mere lazy prostitute actually you all have any idea how hectic looking after baby are? its 10X worse than any jobs I've experience, its a 24/7 endless cycle, feed, change, pacify marathon.

I'm not looking down on the poor, I'm only saying if you;ve a choice, grab it, dun worry about losers here who try taking short cuts and expect you to work and help support the family.

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Added on October 6, 2009, 11:05 pmMy downstairs mee seller told me dun go govt hospital, the trainy doc simply do her episiotomy and the nurse was so rough stitching her up, she was in pain for a whole week and now her vagina is so badly scarred. My in laws asked us to go gleneagle as its a famous choice but after checking it'll easily cost us 10k, so we hunt around and I prefer pantai Indah, its medium range, my delivery only 6.4k, the extra cash we can save for other things.



really? I dono but i wonder why then he chased her like mad all these years? and now feel so happy and in heaven.
You for one person should understand the theory, the market is always right


This post has been edited by moorish: Oct 6 2009, 11:05 PM

Ya.. tats why i feel he kinda dumb oso.. maybe can "pui fuk" him coz he can still chase her after so many rejection throughout the years.

Yup, market is alwys right. Only ppl make right or wrong decision.
Dun blindly follow the "Herd Mentality" as all or most of them will get slaughtered sooner or later.

Those girls tat prefer guys with more $$$ than a normal working guy.. most of the time they will get alot critics from others.
like those young girls marry Datuk.. etcs.. why only a few girls like tat but most of the girls still can satisfied n settle down with a normal working guy.
So is market/majority ppl alwys rite?

So wats ur answer to my questions??

This post has been edited by viper88: Oct 6 2009, 11:44 PM

moorish...ur baby so cute ~~~~

Hi guys,

Message for guys only. Girls can read also. Guys we are generally physically stronger and mentally more stable than women. We make calculated decisions based on mathermatics, rationale and logic most of the time.
Of course women can do an equal job and makes decision, but women has her ups and downs and sometimes emotionally influenced in making decision. Which means men must sometime read between the lines.

"Whereas for men as long as we are physically strong, motivated, eager to learn, work hard, and work smart + intelligently our income will grow higher and higher, plus with regular exercise to keep ourselves fit and healthy, this makes us men an appreciating asset. Under proper financial management earning more money will get us men, bigger house, bigger car and a whole lot of fun awaits us."

I like the statement above. We have to be proud of being a man. That's why most industry are initially male dominated.

Up to this point here is a message for girls here.

Females are catching up in terms of gender equality.

Working in a bank allow me to see people in a financial way through out years of working experience. Year in year out, customers come and go, some really start with nothing, building it and become something successful in career and financially. Mostly men and some women.

I am not saying that men are better than women, becoz we(men) have mothers too. But women can also play a part in the industry, make money, earn money and be successful, instead of thinking of marrying a rich husband.

The first programmer in the world is a woman, Ada Lovelace.

Marie Curie, the woman who won a Noble Prize.

Let's look at local talents of woman.

Datuk Nicol David... no need to explain.

Leona Chin, who can drive her car sideways !!! Drift...!!!

Bridget Lai, CEO of Alliance Bank.




Moorish, I have read lot's of the contents of this thread, maybe you should think and look with your heart seriously in terms of developing a career and make yourself financially independent, at the same time still you may dream on marrying a rich husband plus also you must have feeling for him as well lar.

This post has been edited by blitzboy: Oct 6 2009, 11:39 PM

wa 6.4k not so bad. c-section?

Average people can't have babies if they have defective vaginas and so automatically need RM6500 Caesarian sections.

ROFL!

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Added on October 7, 2009, 12:27 amI can't believe that doctors still do episiotomies in Malaysia, by the way.

It's a horseshit procedure and it's shocking to see doctors sticking to their guns and insisting on doing it without exception.

This post has been edited by Dickson Poon: Oct 7 2009, 12:29 AM