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post Oct 6 2009, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(nickisthemost @ Oct 6 2009, 03:26 PM)
they are like that, because when we sex them up we get to release all the crap back into them, it's like give and take
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you like to think like you're helluva grand, but in actual fact you think you can sex any girl you wan?

what kinda quality type you get irl?

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post Oct 6 2009, 03:29 PM

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Can u girls just stand on a firm ground and debate on just that? rather than twisting and turning into circle? It is no wonder this thread has ballooned to 70 pages. Peace out~
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post Oct 6 2009, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(Looi @ Oct 6 2009, 03:15 PM)
Wow, you win the internut for picking up my grammar mistakes! rolleyes.gif and yet you make stupid mistakes yourself. Double facepalm.jpg right to your face? lol! I did not pick on your English mistakes. Is it that hard to define a boundary for having "decent income" vs "rich"? I m so sorry to say you are indeed blunt and stupid.

Refer to bolded sentence. Again, you contradict what you posted earlier on which makes you look stupid again! x2 the power!!. Having to read all the posts between u&moorish and dickson/noobi3/silver, I agree with noobi3, both you and moorish suck at debating.
lol! Woman talk crap champion: Moorish and debbie. Congrats! lol!

@silverhawk- stop wasting time with them la lol!
exactly what you two want to point out anyway? to show girls always keep on changing their minds? LOL tongue.gif
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Refer to my posts earlier.
Find out what my perspective is before facepalm me. All along i emphasize that it's a guy's attitude that makes him rich.

Do you know why I keep on saying you are 21 years old? The way you debate tells me that you are a small kid.

Yes, you didn't pick on my English mistakes at first, but you picked on other's when yourself have English grammar mistakes, too. I was out of sincerity and generousity to edit your English mistakes. If you don't think your English is bad then you don't have to take my comment.
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post Oct 6 2009, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(moorish @ Oct 6 2009, 03:26 PM)
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what hehehe ? later he divorce you no money wei, that time have kids d and not so beautiful have less chance to find rich guy, cause they prefer better looking girl and don't have kids one, so cham ler depend money on others
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QUOTE(Looi @ Oct 6 2009, 03:29 PM)
Can u girls just stand on a firm ground and debate on just that? rather than twisting and turning into circle? It is no wonder this thread has ballooned to 70 pages. Peace out~
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explained many times, add money to husband criteria list.

Its only you who find that a problem and try your best to bad mouth.


Added on October 6, 2009, 3:33 pm
QUOTE(nickisthemost @ Oct 6 2009, 03:31 PM)
what hehehe ? later he divorce you no money wei, that time have kids d and not so beautiful have less chance to find rich guy, cause they prefer better looking girl and don't have kids one, so cham ler depend money on others
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do you even understand what a prenuptial agreement is? its normally use to protect his asset! doh.gif

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post Oct 6 2009, 03:33 PM

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No matter how I dislike someone, how I being wronged, I will never say people "stupid".

Someone who has lived 30 years know nothing about respect.
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post Oct 6 2009, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 6 2009, 03:33 PM)
No matter how I dislike someone, how I being wronged, I will never say people "stupid".

Someone who has lived 30 years know nothing about respect.
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same here, but I find a lot of guys when debate they like to call ppl stupid, sometimes really get me on my nerved. esp now when lioncor sliding hehehehe.


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QUOTE(teongpeng @ Oct 6 2009, 01:10 PM)
I think all moorish is saying is that:

The chances for true love to blossom is equal wether or not one is rich, so why not take your chances with the richer ones.

Right?
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I think that goes without saying. I mean if you were ask me to pick between two women who were similar in every way except that one was hotter than the other, I'd pick the hotter one of course. What irks me personally is her choice of the word "rich". We aren't looking at two opposite ends of the spectrum, so the term "rich" is relative. One guy is richer than the other, which doesn't mean that the guy who isn't as rich is poor. He just isn't as rich.

This means that if she had a choice of picking between a guy who earns say RM10,000 a month and another who earns RM 15,000, she would go for the latter, all other things being equal. Now once again, if they are exactly the same, why not go for the richer one? However as she herself has mentioned, there is a large grey area. It could mean that the guy who earns RM 10,000 is actually an up and coming success story, a rags to richest story if you like. The guy who earns RM 15,000 may have inherited his father's company and sucks at his work. What am I getting at? The RM 10,000 has the potential to be even more successful in the near future because he works harder. He has already learned the hard way how to climb to the top and even if he falls once, he knows how to get back up there. The latter can't say the same. These are factors I'd consider when talking about grey areas.

I may have missed something as I've not read EVERY post, but saying you'll go out with the richer guy without considering these other factors just shows that a person chooses instant gratification over a delayed one. Often the latter is longer term.
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post Oct 6 2009, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(moorish @ Oct 6 2009, 03:28 PM)
you like to think like you're helluva grand, but in actual fact you think you can sex any girl you wan?

what kinda quality type you get irl?
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i didn't mean that, you get it the wrong way, it's like girl mostly torture us with nagging, grumbling and stuff, but we are okay with it cause we get to give them back with something XD, fair an square =X

this is the actually think that you throw back at yourself "you like to think like you're helluva grand" cause you wouldn't accept anything less =P
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Lol... mixed up case?

QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 6 2009, 03:31 PM)
Refer to my posts earlier.
Find out what my perspective is before facepalm me. All along i emphasize that it's a guy's attitude that makes him rich.

Do you know why I keep on saying you are 21 years old? The way you debate tells me that you are a small kid.

Yes, you didn't pick on my English mistakes at first, but you picked on other's when yourself have English grammar mistakes, too. I was out of sincerity and generousity to edit your English mistakes. If you don't think your English is bad then you don't have to take my comment.
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QUOTE(moorish @ Oct 6 2009, 03:31 PM)
do you even understand what a prenuptial agreement is? its normally use to protect his asset! doh.gif
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oh sry, i misunderstand it the wrong way
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Oct 6 2009, 03:36 PM)
I think that goes without saying. I mean if you were ask me to pick between two women who were similar in every way except that one was hotter than the other, I'd pick the hotter one of course. What irks me personally is her choice of the word "rich". We aren't looking at two opposite ends of the spectrum, so the term "rich" is relative. One guy is richer than the other, which doesn't mean that the guy who isn't as rich is poor. He just isn't as rich.

This means that if she had a choice of picking between a guy who earns say RM10,000 a month and another who earns RM 15,000, she would go for the latter, all other things being equal. Now once again, if they are exactly the same, why not go for the richer one? However as she herself has mentioned, there is a large grey area. It could mean that the guy who earns RM 10,000 is actually an up and coming success story, a rags to richest story if you like. The guy who earns RM 15,000 may have inherited his father's company and sucks at his work. What am I getting at? The RM 10,000 has the potential to be even more successful in the near future because he works harder. He has already learned the hard way how to climb to the top and even if he falls once, he knows how to get back up there. The latter can't say the same. These are factors I'd consider when talking about grey areas.

I may have missed something as I've not read EVERY post, but saying you'll go out with the richer guy without considering these other factors just shows that a person chooses instant gratification over a delayed one. Often the latter is longer term.
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money is only part of the criteria but if you cant click with the person also cant work right?

I've dated much richer guys, those you guys kept saying only wanna get into your pants type, well doesnt work for me. theres this guy from middleeast, he works for aramco, very rich, he bought condos one whole floor like 10 units all in cash, he is married, and there was once he took me back to his house to meet up with his wife and 2 kids. Very weird experience, I became frens with the wife till today. His wife gave the green light and he propose to me.

I told him no and he says he will give me 1 bungalow, 1 condo, 1 shoplot duno where edi and a BMW, really weird people, and the best part is after I rejected, the wife call me and try to talk me into marrying her husband as 3rd wife, apparently he has another wife in saudi doh.gif


Added on October 6, 2009, 3:52 pm
QUOTE(nickisthemost @ Oct 6 2009, 03:37 PM)
i didn't mean that, you get it the wrong way, it's like girl mostly torture us with nagging, grumbling and stuff, but we are okay with it cause we get to give them back with something XD, fair an square =X

this is the actually think that you throw back at yourself "you like to think like you're helluva grand" cause you wouldn't accept anything less =P
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why do you always think that if someone set a certain standard or criteria that person must be stuck up?
I mean if I ask you would you marry a 60 year old ah poh? if no then you;re stuck up coz she is also pityful need someone to look after.

Everyone has a dream life they want, same like some people only want to work in an aircon office, so are they stuck up too?


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QUOTE(nickisthemost @ Oct 6 2009, 03:39 PM)
oh sry, i misunderstand it the wrong way
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Dont apologize when you are right. yawn.gif

A prenuptial agreement, antenuptial agreement, or premarital agreement, commonly abbreviated to prenup or prenupt, is a contract entered into prior to marriage or civil union by the people intending to marry. The content of a prenuptial agreement can vary widely, but commonly includes provisions for division of property and spousal support in the event of divorce or breakup of marriage.
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QUOTE(moorish @ Oct 6 2009, 03:47 PM)
money is only part of the criteria but if you cant click with the person also cant work right?

I've dated much richer guys, those you guys kept saying only wanna get into your pants type, well doesnt work for me. theres this guy from middleeast, he works for aramco, very rich, he bought condos one whole floor like 10 units all in cash, he is married, and there was once he took me back to his house to meet up with his wife and 2 kids. Very weird experience, I became frens with the wife till today. His wife gave the green light and he propose to me.

I told him no and he says he will give me 1 bungalow, 1 condo, 1 shoplot duno where edi and a BMW, really weird people, and the best part is after I rejected, the wife call me and try to talk me into marrying her husband as 3rd wife, apparently he has another wife in saudi doh.gif
Well it's a positive that you haven't totally sold yourself out to money.

Correct indeed, money (or security as I would rather put it) isn't the only criteria. I've stayed away from this debate for awhile in hope of getting of viewing the arguments from a bigger perspective. In the end it comes down to ones own personal choice. There is no right or wrong here. It's just disturbing to me that you mention money before any other criteria. Fairplay, you did say it wasn't the only criteria but yet, you keep bringing it up. Basically, you are looking for a rich guy who can meet your other needs and not the other way around. The difference is while you're looking for the finished article, some do not mind investing in potential. Personally, I think a person who has potential and has a high chance of reaching it can prove to be more secure in the long run, because they know how to stand on their own two feet.
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post Oct 6 2009, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(Looi @ Oct 6 2009, 04:04 PM)
Dont apologize when you are right. yawn.gif

A prenuptial agreement, antenuptial agreement, or premarital agreement, commonly abbreviated to prenup or prenupt, is a contract entered into prior to marriage or civil union by the people intending to marry. The content of a prenuptial agreement can vary widely, but commonly includes provisions for division of property and spousal support in the event of divorce or breakup of marriage.
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I remeber last time we've TCboy in kopitiam who cant resist copypasta statistic from google, and now we've a wannabe english teacher here who copypasta from online dictionary doh.gif

to make life easier for you, since yu hv such poor understanding of english, he was trying to tease me if I've the agreement, then I told him normally this kinda agreement are drawn to protect the richer spouse asset.

And that means my hubby is not protected with such agreement which puts me in the advantage...aiyo.


QUOTE(Duke Red @ Oct 6 2009, 04:11 PM)
Well it's a positive that you haven't totally sold yourself out to money.

Correct indeed, money (or security as I would rather put it) isn't the only criteria. I've stayed away from this debate for awhile in hope of getting of viewing the arguments from a bigger perspective. In the end it comes down to ones own personal choice. There is no right or wrong here. It's just disturbing to me that you mention money before any other criteria. Fairplay, you did say it wasn't the only criteria but yet, you keep bringing it up. Basically, you are looking for a rich guy who can meet your other needs and not the other way around. The difference is while you're looking for the finished article, some do not mind investing in potential. Personally, I think a person who has potential and has a high chance of reaching it can prove to be more secure in the long run, because they know how to stand on their own two feet.
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the arguement kept going cos one part will insist I'm prostituting myself to the highest bidder, another is saying rich people will not be able to love.



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QUOTE(teongpeng @ Oct 6 2009, 01:10 PM)
I think all moorish is saying is that:

The chances for true love to blossom is equal wether or not one is rich, so why not take your chances with the richer ones.

Right?
This does not make sense.

You could also say, the chances for true love to blossom are equal whether or not one is left-handed or right-handed, so why not take your chances with the right-handed ones?

The chances for true love to blossom are equal whether or not one is short or tall, so why not take your chances with the tall ones?

The chances for true love to blossom are equal whether or not one is Asian or Western, so why not take your chances with the Western ones?

If you choose to narrow your prospects so, you are expressing a bias. You are saying that you cannot look beyond your biases to love a person who does not meet them. You are being superficial.

But when your bias is for money, there's another word for it. It's called greed. You see, to be superficial is to be immature. You can grow out of it, or you can let the world knock some sense into you.

But greed is ingrained. Greed is a lot harder to get rid of. Greedy people are a lot less likely to change.



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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Oct 6 2009, 04:23 PM)
This does not make sense.

You could also say, the chances for true love to blossom are equal whether or not one is left-handed or right-handed, so why not take your chances with the right-handed ones?

The chances for true love to blossom are equal whether or not one is short or tall, so why not take your chances with the tall ones?

The chances for true love to blossom are equal whether or not one is Asian or Western, so why not take your chances with the Western ones?

If you choose to narrow your prospects so, you are expressing a bias. You are saying that you cannot look beyond your biases to love a person who does not meet them. You are being superficial.


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what is wrong with putting a certain standard with your husband or wife?
what is wrong when we narrow down our choice if we can afford to?

you can be a saint and marry a handicap infact you;ll get a pat on your back from me if you do that, but I wont look down on you for not wanting to marry a handicap because maybe you;ve set a certain criteria for your wife.

QUOTE(n00b13 @ Oct 6 2009, 04:23 PM)
This does not make sense.



But when your bias is for money, there's another word for it. It's called greed. You see, to be superficial is to be immature. You can grow out of it, or you can let the world knock some sense into you.

But greed is ingrained. Greed is a lot harder to get rid of. Greedy people are a lot less likely to change.
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They're many ways to use money, to simply throw them around or use them wisely. So greed I think is too narrow a word to use on such broad spectrum.

The intention as mention on first post is security, never had I mention I wanna drive BMW coupe, my next address must be in Kenny hills, I will only wear patek, blah blah

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Well said. icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(n00b13 @ Oct 6 2009, 04:23 PM)
This does not make sense.

You could also say, the chances for true love to blossom are equal whether or not one is left-handed or right-handed, so why not take your chances with the right-handed ones?

The chances for true love to blossom are equal whether or not one is short or tall, so why not take your chances with the tall ones?

The chances for true love to blossom are equal whether or not one is Asian or Western, so why not take your chances with the Western ones?

If you choose to narrow your prospects so, you are expressing a bias. You are saying that you cannot look beyond your biases to love a person who does not meet them. You are being superficial.

But when your bias is for money, there's another word for it. It's called greed. You see, to be superficial is to be immature. You can grow out of it, or you can let the world knock some sense into you.

But greed is ingrained. Greed is a lot harder to get rid of. Greedy people are a lot less likely to change.
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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Oct 6 2009, 04:23 PM)
This does not make sense.

You could also say, the chances for true love to blossom are equal whether or not one is left-handed or right-handed, so why not take your chances with the right-handed ones?
And if that falls into someone's criteria when choosing a soulmate, you cant exactly say he/she is wrong can you?
QUOTE(n00b13 @ Oct 6 2009, 04:23 PM)
The chances for true love to blossom are equal whether or not one is short or tall, so why not take your chances with the tall ones?
See, you agreed. tongue.gif
QUOTE(n00b13 @ Oct 6 2009, 04:23 PM)
The chances for true love to blossom are equal whether or not one is Asian or Western, so why not take your chances with the Western ones?
Ofcoz, but will the westerners choose you?

QUOTE(n00b13 @ Oct 6 2009, 04:23 PM)
If you choose to narrow your prospects so, you are expressing a bias. You are saying that you cannot look beyond your biases to love a person who does not meet them. You are being superficial.
All attractions work on a superficial level. Exceptions do happen. But exceptions are rare. And when they happen, obviously one would be powerless to uphold their so-called 'standards'.

QUOTE(n00b13 @ Oct 6 2009, 04:23 PM)
But when your bias is for money, there's another word for it. It's called greed. You see, to be superficial is to be immature. You can grow out of it, or you can let the world knock some sense into you.
Now you are being generalised here. To imply that those who are bias towards money are greedy imply that ALL rich and successful are greedy. $$ = success. And success is attractive. Immaturity = generalization.

QUOTE(n00b13 @ Oct 6 2009, 04:23 PM)
But greed is ingrained. Greed is a lot harder to get rid of. Greedy people are a lot less likely to change.
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False in more ways that you can imagine.

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QUOTE(teongpeng @ Oct 6 2009, 04:35 PM)
Now you are being generalised here. To imply that those who are bias towards money are greedy imply that ALL rich and successful are greedy. $$ = success. And success is attractive. Immaturity = generalization.
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