Building contractor normally quote in RMxx per square feet depending on the materials and design difficulty you requested. Let's say RM35 per sq ft including building material (bare unit only), then RM35 x 20' x70' x 2 floors.

This is just rough estimate. it all depend on the price quoted by your contractor.

In Chinese traditional medicine, bird's nest is recommended for a dry, heaty, chronic cough with blood stained phlegm for hundreds of years .......and recently, Japanese researchers found that extracts from EBN contain anti flu properties ....now, who dare say that BHs may cause the spread of flu virus and that guy who said it must be sick in the head!!!!!!!

Maybe...just maybe by just staying close to one BH may make you immune to all Flu Virus including H1n1 virus too.

So, happy staying close to one or better take a birdnest a day, keep the flu away and be protected against H1N1!!!!!!!!

ps. someone must do research in swiftlet's shit and may one day found to be effective for curing cancer or some illness.........cause if it's no harm to human being, it's must be something good and it's for us to find out.

Something nice to share and no comment on other postings.

For those who are interesting invest into swiftlet farming, you are welcome to contact me. I am a real estate negotiator specialize in bird house properties that located away from the town. All the bird house for sale come together with commercial license for swiftlet farming title. Currently i have a few under-construction unit available for sale located near by Port Dickson. You are welcome to contact me for site visit.

Oh okok! thanxks....at least i got a rough idea.

wah, went thailand to see bird or lady ga ga??

yes u were right that all information must be supported with facts and evidence. this blog http://noswiftlethousesingeorgetown.blogspot.com/
is very anti without the substance. It shows weakness and poor talent of the writer to bring UNESCO into the picture as well. Went to Sungei Petani and found lots of swiftlet there in old town.

west wing, betulke???where is the news and resource for this good infor?thanks

Please note that EBN swiftlets were nesting in coastal Malaysia when these 'Heritage' Buildings were built. Unfortunately no hard evidence is available but from memory of people who observed this phenomenon and stories passed down, we know.

I have seen EBN nesting on the walls of the Standard Chartered bank, Khoo Kongsi and many other buildings around the Penang Weld Quay area when I was younger till perhaps 20 yrs ago when building owners decided that they had to keep these pests away. Khoo Kongsi now resorts to fish nets around the temple.

On the contrary, UNESCO should be informed of this living heritage and if UNESCO accepts this, that will be the end of the anti swiftlet lobby. Remember, Heritage listing is not only about buildings.

Facts and evidence is of utmost importance, and you find that many of the "Heritage' supporters are extremely well informed, much more so than most Swiftlet House owners.

Keep the mistakes and weaknesses of our opponents as our secret, only to be used as ammo in the future. Reveal and criticise them and they can make the necessary corrections.

I hope you can all see what I mean. We have in recent weeks exposed to everyone, the inhumane practise of culling, building irregularities, etc. all can be and will be used by our opponents. This is not a closed forum. It will make things even more difficult in the very near future.

This post has been edited by tuckfook: Mar 29 2010, 12:47 PM

Trully agree to what is said above. myself too a born penangite and i don't believe heritage of building is the only thing been considered when UNESCO list Penang as one of the premiere in heritage conservation. There are other things like Chingay Procession, Phor Thor, temples, indian street, people , food , swiftlet , monkeys, sandy beaches etc that is hollistically recognized. Otherwise, all those new condos , reclamation land in gurney and coastal road near the penang bridge and shopping mall doesn't reflect anything heritage at all. instead of focusing on the swiftlet , the writer should shoot himself on the foot for not being able to do more in education the citizen not to throw rubbish into the sea or stop the current land reclamation that destroys the natural habitat and the scenery of the old Penang Bridge which is likely to be gone soon .

Malaysia Birds Nest Expo 2010 (Sept 16 - 19)

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Mid Valley Exhibition Centre (MVEC), KL

http://tradelink.com.my/birdnest/

Hi all,

Please check this out. It might be useful to us Bird lovers.

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...0051&sec=nation

http://tradelink.com.my/birdnest/

Are these just coincidences? All on the same day?
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/art...icle/index_html
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/art...icle/index_html
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/art...icle/index_html
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/art...icle/index_html

This post has been edited by Cergau: Mar 29 2010, 06:44 PM

Quote from NST article 1

"Malaysia now has about 50,000 swiftlet premises producing more than 12 tonnes of bird's nest monthly."

that much? or was it annually?

“The first harvest after six months recorded almost RM10,000 “ "fatt lah"

thounsand of people will jump in soon.

This post has been edited by htc: Mar 30 2010, 01:22 PM

All these reports are too coincidental aren't they?
Wonder what all these are a buildup to?

eco park??
loan?
rich become more richer?
monopoly?

1 Malaysia?

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Added on March 30, 2010, 4:37 pmSee No Evil! HEar No Evil! Talk NO Evil?

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Added on March 31, 2010, 8:50 amreality check!! how many of you love to read this swiftlet thread but afraid of kena tembak by some one?

i remember during the school days when the teachers always ask the student ...

Cikgu: ada apa apa lagi soalan nak tanya sebelum cikgu teruskan..
Murid-murid:
Cikgu: Semua dah faham
Murid-murid:
Cikgu: tak jawab tu faham , betul tak
Murid-Murid: Ya
Cikgu: ok semua pandai.

In fact , only 10 percents understood the rest are monkeys. If ask wrong questions or stupid questions, tonight no banana to eat.

This post has been edited by hackwire: Mar 31 2010, 08:51 AM

Hackwire,
IMHO you may have misunderstood.
There was a suggestion not to be too free with posting that is self incriminating to the industry.
Friends and foe troll this forum.

It;s has even surpass the stock market forum.
Maybe there's no longer any money to be made there!!!

haha... i love to read this forum but sudah kering... no news .
pages overlapping the previous pages and it needs a little bit of time to treasure hunt for information in the forum. usually the flow of information will fade off and than surface back again when someone new has a new and stupid question but only when sifus feels its a repetitive work of explanation.

many forumers don't understand the way information are stacks like a layer cake or the deeper it is the cheezy it is.

So old forumers and sifus just feel that nothing new for them to learn or contribute as its a waste of time .

my suggestion is let the stupid and the silly question surface and only than creativity will flow regardless of enemies or friends. The unbelievable thing in this culture is they stop when the fun really begins, thinking that they have completed the circle.

Hackwire,
I agree. on the disorganised info.
Engineer Lee has most of the relevant V1 postings organised at the front pages of this thread.
May be a thread-specific FAQ?
I do not know if this forum has that technical feature to hold the FAQ in a separate frame or at least a visible boilerplate-type hyperlink?
Why dun you initiate a chat with Admin if we can do something like that.
I will be back probably tomorrow to cont this and see if we can do something to organise the info.
Anyone else...any suggestions welcome. The hosting MUST be free and long term, I will contribute time.
Be back tomorrow.

This post has been edited by Cergau: Mar 31 2010, 12:05 PM

As I see it………………… Are we haram, are we illegal or are we afraid of the truth?

When we discuss here, why should we afraid of others listening as this forum is suppose for all to read and understand whether if it’s good or bad as we believe in the truth and if we think we need to hide facts from the rest of the population, then we are no better than the rest but I believe that providing swiftlets sanctuaries are good much more than the bad and we shouldn’t hide the facts that there are some devils and selfish guys among us creating problems and spreading wrong information to the public. What we want is public awareness and understandings of what we are doing and in the end, we all can stand tall as we are proud to be swiftlets sanctuaries providers

By hiding it the bad side and preaching only the good, we are infact telling others that we are biased against others, but we aren’t because what we are spreading are the truths, nothing but the truths about this industry. For that, I feel no shame to question ourself and to remind ourself that we do have obligations toward the rest of the raayat to know the truths ……and they are no fool…………. Or do we want them to feel like one.
All these time, we have been telling all the advantages of having Birdhouses, but we also need to tell them the bad side of having BHs as we have nothing to hide or should we as this is not a secret or something one cannot find out……it’s either now or later only.

The advantages of having BHs are many times and so what are we afraid of others knowing the true facts; all the correct facts of swiftlets sanctuaries....the goods with the bad.

Personally, I will appreciate if the truth be spoken and let the people and government decide and as a swiftlets sanctuaries providers, I have nothing to hide or fear……..even if the Devil is watching cos I know that the Angel is watching over me.

This post has been edited by West Wing: Mar 31 2010, 02:44 PM