Well done Seeseng and good work Engineer Lee. Thank you very much. I hope we can see only constructive arguments and no more cyber war in this new v2 thread. Kudos to Lucas and ChanK for updating us the most latest information and untold stories in the swiftlet keeping industry.

Don't forget to take video too. Who knows, you might need it to show proof in court room later.

Dear aerohead, there is a feature call spoiler where your can hide long quotes to make the forum page neat, easy to navigate. Just highlight the quote and click the spoiler tab and your are done.

I would still prefer LYN because LYN rank 5 in terms of traffic ranking in Malaysia and the speed of hosting server is very fast. Other forum may have hiccups too and worst still simply disappear due to lack of fund.

I would suggest to register the exiting and completed town BH within a cut off date. Allow the exiting town BH to continue operate and ban new BH in prohibited area. The reason being the more additional new BH in town, the more complains will be received by the town council from public. It will put tremendous pressure to the local government to juggle the situation. State government needs votes from public too and public voters against breeders voters ratio can be as high as 99:1 in favour of public. Which side do you think the government will be given priority when drawing out a public policy ?
When the new BH in prohibited area is ban, new investor will have to follow the proper procedures to build the BH in a designated area and there will be less complain from public.
As a whole, It will help the BN industry in the long run because over supply of the BH in Malaysia can be contained.

This post has been edited by aeiou228: Feb 26 2009, 02:38 PM

If you disagree with me, just tell your reasons here and it is absolutely not necessary to intentionally hurl out "This is typical chinaman mentallity" against me and then apologies to me that you have no bad intention. Please behave you manner.

To ban new BH (new BH to be built or converted after the registration dateline) in town is to protect the existing BH in town and the entire BN industry as a whole in the long run. If the number of BH mushroomingl in one particular town with license and guidelines, I doubt the authority would not do anything despite the increasing number of complains from the public.
New investor can stay out of trouble if they build the BH outside the prohibited area. They have nothing to lose and they are helping the exiting town BH owners indirectly. So " Lu si ho koi wa si" does not arise.

This post has been edited by aeiou228: Feb 26 2009, 06:56 PM

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My double layer brick wall has no cavity. I just stacked the bricks in crisscross position ie. 2 vertical and 2 hrizontal and so on. Without the insulation gap, the internal wall is still cool to touch in the evening and at the same time I got a very strong reinforced wall to prevent forceful break in. If you insist to have a gap in between, I think 1" or 0.5" already good enough to provide the heat insulation effect.

Im no sifu, above comments are my personal experience and observation from my DIY stand alone BH project.

This post has been edited by aeiou228: Mar 2 2009, 05:10 PM

Kota Bharu also ??? like what ?

source : http://www.walitworld.com/index.php?option...w&id=7&Itemid=2

Fulamak ...!! RM650K per year... But what a pity the company offer no guarantee for this income projection.

Ermm.. are you sure your birds likes the strict door opening hour regime ?? What if some birds find this house rules are not comfortable to them and decided not to stay put ?

As west wing said, you have nothing inside yet so don't bother to close the gate. Since you opted open roof entrance, chances of owl diving in is lessen ( please correct me if I'm wrong).

My open roof entrance hole is 6' by 6' and yours is 10' by 10'. can any sifu give commend about size of open roof opening hole ?

But West Wing, siewaan's BH is open roof leh... But does owl nose dive to open roof entrance hole when they fly ?

LOL You finally emerged. Thank for the advice. will seeing you soon

I don't think displaying dead owl can be practical. How long can a owl's corpse last ? 2 weeks ? Even if it can last up to 1 month, monthly replacement is still a problem let alone owls are protected by law.

If really insist auto-gate, why not auto-grille instead auto-gate. So that swiftlets can still fly in and out but not owls.

One question to ask all sifus here. Do you reckon installing flashing spotlights or motion sensor spotlights around the entrance hole will ward off BATS ?

This post has been edited by aeiou228: Mar 17 2009, 06:50 PM

This thread never discussed about CORNER BOARD. Let's discuss...
Is it necessary to install corner board ?
The purpose of corner board is to eliminate one 90 degree corner nest but after installing the corner board, it will double your corner nests production...you got two 135 degree corner nests or curvy nests. So the question is will 135 degree corner nests or curvy nest fetch better value than 90 degree corner nests or it can be priced the same as the full cup ?

This post has been edited by aeiou228: Mar 19 2009, 11:38 AM

Today, while supervising the work in progress of my 85% completed BH, I found a honey bee's nest about the size of a Pemelo in the 1st floor ceiling. My workers "harvest" the honey nest but the honey bees still flying around in the 1st floor. Will swiflets eats honey bees ?
Though my BH is still under construction, quite a number of swiftlets already flying low near (approx 1m to 3 m) at the top floor area to check up this new Hotel. Before BH erected, I never see them flying so low. Any one know why ?

This post has been edited by aeiou228: Mar 31 2009, 10:50 PM

I think relocation of swiftlet is possible and can be done....but at a cost.

How ?
Just close down BH A and the swiftlets have no choice but to find a new homes some where else.

At a cost ?
Thousands of young birds may dies during the transition period.
Swiftlets may migrate to other location or country.
Revenue loss to the farmers, and country.
Property prices drop drastically.

If one day, the pressure from anti BH group overwhelm the relocation costs, then PBT will have to act accordingly to neutralize the pressure by sacrificing the cost.
According to my observation, some new and greedy BH owners blasting the chirp sounds in high decibel 24/7 are the main culprit that would bring about the pressure and resistance to disallow BH in town area.

This post has been edited by aeiou228: Apr 4 2009, 04:39 PM

Aiyo....Ck,...Please don't be so sensitive....and over suspicious to all stand alone BH farmers.

I'm just merely expressing my personal view in respond to Engineer Lee's reply that relocation is Mission Impossible. When I argued that the relocation is possible, does that mean I favoring relocation ??
Enough said. Don't want to spark off another boring war of words in this thread.