Well, well,well…………very noisy over here…..it seems so many started crying………sigh………  

I remember those days DL already predicted what would happen in the end of the days like today by depending on those idiots from the so called Federation Asso whom he knew too well as he ever worked with them long time ago……DL ever said…..never never never trust these few top idiots to negotiate for all of u…….many didn’t believe just bcos the biggest idiot is a Dato…… These people should go to Kedah to find out about this idiot Dato’s dark history…….and also the idiot from Malacca and the one from Kuantan……..

DL has been fighting for all in the industry since early 2000 across the whole country at his own cost despite he didn’t own any bh outside his hometown in Kedah……he led a big group in hundreds and thousands of locals in 2003,2004 and 2005 picketed, confronted and forced the former Penang BN Govt finally succumbed to issue licences to all the BHs. He resolved the Malacca BH crisis in 2002. He mediated, negotiated and arranged meeting for the Perak BH owners, opposition leaders and the former BN Exco, Dato Chang to sit down together and happily resolved those problems given by the Perak Civil Service and BH licenses issued in 2004 ……DL also in respond to the SOS received from Mukah Bh owners assisted and supervised the Sarawak owners to resist the white hair Govt’s nonsense during the Sarawak crisis in oct 2008 ……He openly whacked a certain corrupted dept and highlighted their wrong doings in his speech without fear in an official workshop organised by the Vet Dept in June 2009.  Many Govt depts feared of him…….But that bloody idiot group for own hidden agenda ganged up to isolate him…….

Numerously, DL had been appealing to all the ‘small fries’ to stand up and come forward and form their own localized associations to take care of their own immediate interest instead of trusting and depending the idiot group to do also on their behalf, but not many heed his advice thinking that the Dato would also fend for them…….In the end, see what has happened today??? From bad guidelines to worse….  

After more than a decade of fighting for the interest of the BH owners in the country and most of them he didn’t even know or meet with, and all these are on his own cost. Many owners agreed to come forward to join in and support him but with lip service only……when come to work, everybody has very good excuse…..The family felt it was time that he should retire from all these social services as he had already done and contributed more than his own share and in fact, even more than many who combined and also he was too tired… So, he retired completely since mid last year…..  Today’s scenario is actually within his prediction before he retired…he already forecasted this outcome…..His only advice is if every small fry were to gang up, it is more than enough to drown even an elephant…….it is time that some new leaders with righteous, sincerity and dedication and without fear among the small fries emerge to take the lead by organizing and rounding up others locally first…. and spread to all……before too late…….He reminded that remember, never never trust the idiots…..u can work with them but never be dictated by them….. U can get the dept to listen to u also…….The federation Association does not have full representation of all…….it is only in name they sound big…..but there are many other existing legal BNest Associations with equal standing that are not associated with them and did not give them the mandate…… If every man wants to be only good and silent man and dared not to speak up and fight for JUSTICE, in the end, all of them will be killed by the bad man one by one.

For those who are interested to know the Bnest industry history and its predicaments so far faced, u can flip back from the beginning of this forum. Anyway, I also already very seldom surf this forum any more at least for more than 6 months…..tonight, so happened accidentally entered, only managed to glance through a few posts ……don’t think have much time to chat like those days again………btw, before his retirement, DL ever mentioned dusuntutmybuntut with assistance from west wing and the rest could be made a good leader to organize and spear head   …..so, have a good thought…….good luck and bye……and good nite……

Thanks to the those who use EM and share it here! Anyone who wants to buy it can PM me, it comes in 20-litre drum. Wish I got the time to fill in 1-litre container.     

Let say whole malaysia swiftlet farmer don't folow the new guide line,what will happen?
no one go on application of lesen or permit,what will happen?
and whole malaysia swiftler farmer come out make noise on the street,what will happen?
the new guide line KIV or .......?

I think i will totally agree with DL ( Dato lee, or Datok Lim ...whatever).... i already offered to be in the spark of this cry but seems like nobody wants to lead after all . I close this topic and move on with my dream bird house of my own regardless of the law or bullshitting or gossips....

In the first place, where is Goliath?

this forum is just the right place to " CRY".
there's nothing u can do about it...

I think i will totally agree with DL ( Dato lee, or Datok Lim ...whatever).... i already offered to be in the spark of this cry but seems like nobody wants to lead after all . I close this topic and move on with my dream bird house of my own regardless of the law or bullshitting or gossips....

In the first place, where is Goliath?

this forum is just the right place to " CRY".
there's nothing u can do about it...

We don't just cry....don't worry, we are heard. Loud n clear.

We have sent SMS to many farmers, and many are working round the clock to seek more info n are investigating n are connecting to those involved to seek help.

Many local associations are been sms thks to DL (David Lim) from perak, kedah, penang, johor, kuantan and many more..
They are a few bro's here which also had make contacts with govt n some industry players to see if we can find even more info.
DL and others are trying to find more volunteers mainly near to the federal capital to help/assist in communicating with the officers whom are mainly stations in putrajaya.

with the dyfunction of the so called federal association and the inability of our selangor bird's nest association which resulted in not able or not cares in monitoring the situation that is happening now ( believe me, they are liked that, even last time when we have big problem in the garis panduan before the meeting in seremban, when offered a copy of the garis panduan for them to read and tackle the problem, they refused to take the copy as they only want a copy officially send to them by the jpv.!!

Those soh hai (sorry....bp up again) really think that they are somebody that will be respected??..if the previous GP is been approved and then only send to them...what the F they can do about it??...

So, hoping that the association can protect ur butt...is more likedly a Hope.

during the meeting in seremban, only one guy had drafted and prepared a paper to present it to the officers. All of the association top players only went there n discuss about what they will tell the officers a day before the meeting.

So, when david was scolding the officers, these soh hai in fact are enjoying their time there laughing when they heard David screw the perhiliatan on the tax issues...so tell me, do they cares much about the issue.

to them, they trust in acting liked a dog, lick the officers shoes and think that by doing that they will get what they want.

and if they don't get what they want for the mass, at least the officers will gives face to them n not take action on their farms...

Thts the reality here...and its been liked that for over a decade...
those associations are just the few bad apples ( even Selangor bn association had previously done a very good job...but not anymore...).

Luckily, more n more good local associations are been set up, and that also from the advice of DL to all the local farmers.

instead of depending on the few Top Useless industry association to cover ur butt....why not protect ur own rice bowls urself!.

now u know why those bastards association top players hated DL so much and trying to push him aside.... i seen them doing it in seremban. and this including selangor bn participant who knew nothing about the contribution of DL in this industry and also sided with the horse n lee !!..
I think we are heading to the right track with the setting up of more n more local associations in all states.

but we urgently need a FEDERAL or MALAYSIA bn association as the head of all these local associations to tackle federal issues which is the license.

we need to set it up FAST!!..

THe so called Federal bn association which claimed to representing the whole malaysia bn association in fact do not even get any support from his own state, which is kedah.

So tell me, who he is representing?? he himself.

So u want this guy to protect ur butt?...u can kiss ur butt goodbye!.

We don't just cry....don't worry, we are heard. Loud n clear.

We have sent SMS to many farmers, and many are working round the clock to seek more info n are investigating n are connecting to those involved to seek help.

Many local associations are been sms thks to DL (David Lim) from perak, kedah, penang, johor, kuantan and many more..
They are a few bro's here which also had make contacts with govt n some industry players to see if we can find even more info.
DL and others are trying to find more volunteers mainly near to the federal capital to help/assist in communicating with the officers whom are mainly stations in putrajaya.
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