http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file...&sec=southneast
heard fr selangor associations that we can wait for some good news from the mesyuarat. That is a long waited good news.....

A large group of sarawak farmers are here this weekend.

hopefully DL will be able to come to help up to raise the issue of bird's nest tax and bird's nest monopoly planned by some few old time association president's. the finale of this episode before going to the judge.

As always, u support us, we fully support u.

very simple. very frank.

we no need any contracts award, no need any land. just license and let us make a living and help the local community to prosper with us.

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I like the words [ exclusive ] .

this is what the GOV need to know and not the shit and chitchit sound !
Now a day BN turnover is closer to chase oils palm...so the gov is thinking how to tax the famer that is

Now, alot of oil Palm estate, rubber estate and what have you have at least a BH in it....why, because it like buying "a duck that lay golden eggs" duckling and hope that it will grow up and lay golden eggs.....it will, it will if you nurture it well.

Oyes!!!!! Beware Horn Bill, they kill and eat swiftlets and they will destroy your BH if your BH isn't dark enough.............I wouldn't believe it until I saw it with my own eyes...........Horn Bill jumping into BH thru entrance and out only after 15 mins and with swiftlets in their beaks. Once out of the BH, they still be able to catch swiftlets  no because they can out fly swiftlets but because swiftlets be nature, tend to dive toward predators to chase the predators away and God, hundreds of swiftlets dive and the horn bills only need to open, move and snap their hugh bills...snap, snap snap and they catch the swiftlets and with a few jerks, the swiftlet is dead and down goes the swiftlet into the stomach of the horn bill.

Anyone know how to prevent this killings or what can chase the horn bill away without killing the horn bills as they are also protected species.

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Added on June 13, 2009, 9:08 pm
It's OK, just like share market, there are speculators and there are investors.  BH investment is like the share market, you can do just like it and Like me, I did once changing portfolio, selling one sucessful BH to buy into 4 new BHs.....I called that diversified and . Maybe, one day we may use phases like cut losses which I hope we may never need to use it..... I have friends who are just buy successful BHs as in this way, they will be assured of getting back their investment within 5 years with small risk....and there are people like me who like to run for the money....big money;  buy new or unsuccessful ones to turn them into gold if possible....small investment, big profits but bigger risk.

Your friend is smart and if he has invested too much than he can afford, his BH may long ago be Along's BH.  But he make not much, he should have make more, like 5X his investment, hahaha

BENKEL INDUSRI WALIT organised by the HAIWAN PUSAT at very last minute instruction from the PM OFFICE at THE ROYAL BINTANG RESORT & SPA, SERAMBAN, NEGERI SEMBILAN from 14.06.09 to 17.06.09 follow by a SIRIM WORKSHOP ON THE BIRD’S NEST INDUSTRY on 18.06.09
The objective of this Benkel is for the Haiwan to hold in-depth discussions with as much industry market players such as the farmers, the traders, the exporters and the manufacturers of the nest industry throughout Malaysia including East Malaysia. This discussion is to collect information, feed backs, suggestions and proposals from those involved. The officials participating in these discussions shall compile a very comprehenernment, sive report to be submitted to the PM by July 2009.
Due to too short a time, many Associations are not notified. Only a handful has been informed. It is expected the Haiwan officials will out-number the market players. Food and lodging is provided free upon reporting for registration, rightfully on 14.06.09 from 2.30pm to 6pm. For those who have been notified late and wish to take part to voice their opinions and suggestion, they can still do so as every day, the topic in the benkel is different. All is welcome.
On 14.06.09 -730pm to 830pm-dinner, 830pm-1030pm-kata aluan and perasmiam Benkel.

On 15.06.09 & 16.06.09 730am to 1100pm/12 mid night- very tight programme, crazy huh? But will be interesting.

On 17.06.09- only half day, bersurai after lunch.

On 18.06.09- SIRIM??????????????????Details not yet available. 

Really crazy, crazy……………..but good try and well done from the HAIWAN. At least, this department is doing their best; hopefully it does help this industry.

I think the HAIWAN is making it into a Malaysian Guiness Record……………. I really admire their spirit……… They are all very nice and sincere people……….We should help them……….even if it is going to be karam-kabut………..
So, any one from here would like to join in ? Even part-time also no problem. Must give full support or at least show some support to the Haiwan official……. We already tried our best to get as many to go, but regret to say, too last minute and school just re-opened…..Understand 10 to 20 reps from Sabah and Sarawak are flying in……….What say you, Uncle Ben, West Wind, ChanK?????????? Not too late to join in, at least to say hello to old friends.

Understand DL is trying best to go too………

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Why DL report on import & export sekejap ada, sekejap tak ada?

Brother ChanK?
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On behalf of all farmers from my area, I extend our greatest gratitue to representatives of Associations, traders,  manufacturers and exporter to take part in the workshop organized by Department of Haiwan.

Kudos to new member, birdfarm. your in-depth analysis  on the Bird Nest industry is timely and has shed us  some light on the direction where it is headed.

Yes, Brother Semuabumi is right. He is on our side.

Well done, birdfarm. DL compliments you. He said this is good input. Keep it up and continue with the good work. More people should contribute in this way in this forum. Present in the justified arguements. This can be used to educate and convince the govt rule makers and departmental heads to have more understandings of our trade and thus make right policy. We do need to pool in a lot of justifications and substantiated reasons as to why the govt should view our trade very seriously for the long term and sustainable benefit and survival to the country and the people. This trade should be able to bring in a lot of foreign revenue to the people. When the people becomes rich, the nation becomes strong. Therefore, in order to maximise the potential, the govt should consider to simplfy all the procedures and do away the bureaucratic red tapes to convenient the flourish of the industry as soon as possible. This is the input and arguement presented by DL during the Bengkel to convince the authorities.

Thanks for the compliments from Lucas 1 & DL, it is sign that we are in the right direction. Continuing with why some some Federal Government & State Government are SCARE/FEARFUL to license & support this wonderful business:

2) Protest/Backlash from the Public: This is another TRULY UNFOUNDED fear by the Politicians & certain government officers. How can the public protest/angry with a business which is clean, envrionmentally friendly, lucrative & blessed(BERKAT), HALAL, and have great potential to provide Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, bring in Billion ringgit of foreign exchange, create many other Businesses spinoffs, and best of all provide free delicious & healthy "Birdnest soup" fit for Emperor only in olden times!!! Also this business is "EXCLUSIVE" to Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand and few other nations only, like Oil is exclusive to Arab countires. This UNFOUNDED FEAR originates from the actions of a few selfish, inconsiderate, ignorant Swiftlet Farming black sheeps Farmers who will blast the bird sound like in the DISCOTECH causing nuisance & irritation to the neighbours! Also some will modify the shoplot to look like Building from the outerspace! Also there is so much of bad PUBLICITY by the national press which print "letter to editors", many of the letters are talking rubbish but some are genuine compliants! Let us affirmatively say that this can be easliy resolved by having clear, proper Swiftlet farming Guidelines drafted & approved by Parliament, according to the requirements/needs of the Swiftlet Farming Industry. Once this done, strictly enforce and stop all this inconsiderate, selfish black sheep and PROBLEMs solved lah!Similarly with the chemical industires, there are some Blacksheep factories that continue to pollute the rivers, DOES THE GOVERNMENT STOP/BAN ALL THE FACTORIES or asked them to relocate to the Agriculture land??? Also, 1 very important guideline is NO SWIFTLET FARMING ALLOWED IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS ie cannot in the residential Houses! So most of the people in Malaysia are not affected as swiftlet farming is done in SHOPLOT only! For those who are staying on top of the shoplots, they have an option to move out and convert to "Birdhouse"! which is more lucrative. Talking about birds, I would like to ask the people who compliant and Goverment esp. Local Authority what about those "sparrows" sitting by the thousands and thousands in every towns that shit on our cars every days under the Telephone/Electricity Poles & Wires? Also the nuisance "Crows" every where causing nuisance. Can you do something about it ? Man & Birds have been lving together in harmony for hundred of years and we do not have any problems. So Goverment, Federal and state alike, please don't be fearful of Public backlash, there is NONE! if we all do our jobs properly without FEAR or FAVOR!

To be continued!

Our main opponants are DBT group which insist that we move but at least we have a PM and his team on our side.
West Wind, I beg your pardon, it is not DBT, it is PBT (PIHAK BERKUASA TEMPATAN) or LOCAL GOVT AUTHORITIES under the KPKT (KEMENTERIAN PERUMAHAN DAN KERAJAAN TEMPATAN or the MINISTRY OF HOUSING AND LOCAL GOVT. In another word, we are talking of the Local Councils or the Majlis Tempatan.

According to DL, it is not all the Majlis officials objecting to this industry in town. It is only a fraction of the officials who failed to have the correct understanding and knowledge of this industry and what benefits this industry can bring to Malaysia. During the discussion, it was the Setiausaha of the Seramban Council invited who spoke against BHs in town. He was referring to the old proposals of the Perancang of January and March failing to know that that proposals were already amended in May. But, what ever it was, the latest amended proposal allows existing BHs to continue to operate in town centre but subjected to further detailed conditions to be negotiated. Therefore the objection by that SU in the Bengkel was un-called for and excited many participants. The Pengarahs of the JPV esp the Legal Advisor of JPV were defending the BH owners. West Wind and few others were furiously arguing and defending too for the existing owners. This SU, according to BH owners in Seramban is dead against BHs in Seramban town. Our Tiger Lee is having headach from him.
In fact, during the Bengkel, DL highlighted and corrected that the organiser, JPV (JABATAN PERKHIDMATAN VETERINAR) was given by the KPKT the outdated proposal for the Bengkel.
The PM office has decided very recently to groom and to maximise this industry as one of the three HVI (HIGH VALUED INDUSTRIES) beside Arowana and the sea weed by instructing JPV under Ministry of Agriculture to play the lead role in the coordination of all depts and research study for a full report to be presented to the PM by mid July. That was the main objective of the Bengkel in which all key representatives were invited in last minutes to 'teach' them the knowledge of the industry. In fact, all reps who attended have to pay for own hotel and other expenses and some even paid for own meals. Looks like the other depts such as PERHILITAN and PBT etc are now the supporting roles. DL doubts that these depts are going to be happy and he thinks that there could be silent sabotages from them. The Bird's Nest industry in Malaysia is going to be the official 'BABY' under the JPV's care soon. DL says it is in better hand and he regards the JPV as very much more professional and friendy to the industry. All the top JPV officials are very friendy, sincere, humble, committed and dedicated. A few of the Pengarahs were so sincere, humble and honest to admit that they were new and lacked of knowledge of our trade and they invited the reps to guide and teach them so that they could help the industry to the best. DL says he couldn't believe there exist such good officials in Malaysia's Govt dept. Most of the officers he met for the past decades were arrogant and talked nonsence.
Generally, the Bengkel is something very special, positive, good and fruitful for the future of the Industry. Most participants had done their level best to give their best inputs in unity and worked real hard to rush through to complete the sacred mission. DL's comprehensive report on the industry had been printed and distributed to all participants and recommended as a 'must' reading material by the JPV. DL says this is the first time he saw real UNITY shown among all key representatives of the industry. Hopefully that such spirit should continue. This is the best and most important and productive meeting ever this industry has since its birth in Malaysia. This could be the beginning of the ending of the bureaucratic procedures with red tapes that haunted this industry since the past. Let's keep our fingers crossed to see if the JPV could really do wonder by going against the tide for the industry as promised by the Ketua Pengarah, Dato Dr Aziz of the JPV in his open ceremony speech. Indeed he is a really highly respectable, amicable, sincere and humble figure. All participants really gave him the high respect and regards after chatting with him. They are very fond of him. A truly rare breed.

Hmm..look like we Johorean are being put at crossroad. While we are having sleepless nights trying to catch a thief in front, some developer of swiftlet eco park is trying to stab us from the back. What would you do if that occurred to you?  Which one will you tackle first?

In my humble opinion. For thieves, when we see them running off with our nests, we fight till the last breath. As for developers,  we will fight with them when they show up themselves undisgulsed. On other note,  If our senior has shown strong interest in eco park recently, surely he can tell the good developer from the bad and we can take cue from there, can't we? 

Its been days we posted the docs...anyone with any other comments on those docs??

Use this forum to group our strenghts .....no point each of us liked making one blog and talk the same thing and still ends up at the same point.

we are just liked those bn associations where each of them want recognition or they are THE ONE instead of concentrating in the issue itself.....

This forum is one of the most read in Malaysia by farmers n govt officers, use it !!!......

If we ourselves can't even be a strong team and fight the evils as a team, don't blame anyone !...

So, you are Johorean, what are you going to do and actually, what are you all Johoreans going to do?? Be one cos' no one can help you if you didn't help yourself....even God only help those who help themselves.

I can only give you moral support and prayers, too and so are many in the forum. We don't know of any strong Poilticians and VVIPs in Johor to give you the leverage and support needed.

In Eco-Parks owners are the culprits, boycott them by not buying into their bird parks and also refusing to supply them with the new birds. Buyer knowing that they will fail if they invest in the bird park will not buy; then the Eco guys will not dare to disturb the peace............By supporting the town BHs will be a Win Win way out for otherwise, there will be no new birds to share.

Eco Park Bosses, you should know that your future lie with us, we live, you live and if we are to be force out, we will prepare to take you with
us....................

Small size Eco Parks will have a very bright future if they are willing to work hand in hand with the town's BHs with the Ecoparks as the future with the BHs@town as the present so without the PRESENT, there will be no FUTURE. Secure PRESENT, Secure FUTURE. Remember this, my Ecoparks friends.

Otherwise, Dome Days for the town's BHs now, Dome days for tomorrow's  Ecoparks. Mark my words.........

swiftletsarekei,

maybe the association just want to calm u guys n did not intentionally gives out wrong message to u.

The only problem we might face is newcomers....all those in this industry already know what we need to do.

we need to restrict/advice/ensure all newcomers do the right things when they build new farms in town.

One : They need to register as member of bn association.

Two : BN association need to have a senior member to brief them what they can do and cannot do. failing so, bn association can report this newcomer to the majlis to take action if the newcomer do not take the advice and go kacau the neighbourhood by turning on sound loud or erect monkey house.

We need to do it to saveguard all our rice bowl. just make sure this is not been make use by evil pioneer president's or committee members from restricting newcomer entering into this trade.

Sarekei bn association should use this n implement it on their own...instead of waiting for troubles......

Lucas1, This is the full report.

but i think of not much use, if we can translate it into chinese (the majority of shui yu will be chinese!!) then will be of better help. thats why we need to spread it by telling friends n relatives to be aware of this scam.
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...9&sec=starprobe
Monday July 13, 2009
Lure of the birds and nest

Located in a new commercial precinct in the heart of Petaling Jaya is a company that invites people to invest in the bird’s nest business by asking them to cough up RM24,800 to purchase a “lot” but one has the option to buy more lots.

The company known as Golden Nest Properties International (M) Bhd has been operating for 10 months from the second floor of a new office development.

A call to the Registrar of Companies showed that it was registered under registration number 838068-V.

Starprobe started an investigation following a complaint via e-mail from a member of the public who claimed that the returns promised were “pretty high”.

He also claimed that he did not receive his refund of RM100 made as a deposit against the lot as the company said it was made “too long ago”.

A reporter went undercover as a potential investor to the Golden Nest office.

There, he found half-dozen scantily dressed young girls “persuading” potential investors or “assisting” them in filling up the application forms.

According to a company official, the investment has a guaranteed return of RM200 per month per lot for the first two years. In subsequent years, there is a minimum guaranteed return of RM700 per month per lot coupled with an annual dividend of RM3,000.

She claimed there were only 600 lots left to be subscribed and that they were going fast.

Once the lots were fully subscribed the company planned to list, she said, adding that the lots would be worth much more post-listing.

At the office, there was also a funkily dressed man addressed by the rest as “Datuk”.

He was there to answer any difficult questions posed by potential investors.

Another reporter, who made a follow-up call to the company with the allegations from the complainant, spoke to another company official who said that there was a 10-day cooling-off period for refunds of deposits.

“If it’s more than 10 days, a depositor will not get the refund,” he said.

The official also said the company was not offering the public shares but selling properties in which bird’s nests were being cultivated.

He said the company had properties or “farms” located in Klang and Sungai Petani and others in Johor and Malacca and was thinking of listing five years down the road.

“We spoke to the Securities Commission earlier in the year on our plans for listing and they said we need to come out with a prospectus. We cannot do that as the company is less than a year old,” he added.

He said if the company was approved for a listing, the lot owners would get share subscription forms.

Starprobe checked with the Securities Commission where a spokesman said there was no formal application or approval given to Golden Nest in its records.

The Golden Nest official said the properties owned by the company were existing properties that were under renovation.

“The RM200 returns promised in the first two years before the properties are operational will come from the proceeds of bird’s nest sales,” he said.

He said in subsequent years, the projected minimum income of RM560 per month per lot would come from harvesting the bird’s nests from the lots owned by the owners.

He said each farm had 1,260 lots of which only 48% or 600 lots were being sold to the public. The remainder would be owned by Golden Nest.

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Added on July 13, 2009, 7:54 pm
Brother,

not that no one wants to help u. by just showing a farm sketch and ask ppl to comment, for what?.

So, u want to ask if this is a good design?.

Well, no.

but i have seen a similar design and the farm did quite well too!. 4 years 400+ nests. to me is ok as at least he see continuous nest growth of average 10 nests a month!.. and among the farm there (3 farms total), this farm is the Top and it is not the first!.

but then this will not be my selection of design i adopt to my farms though...i dont wish to try my luck.

In swiftlet keeping, there is no bad designs that quaranteed u fail 100% and there is no good designs that quaranteed u success 100%.....we choose the most frequent n most suitable design and still know that it will not 100% quarantee it will succeed to attracts many birds.......that the true real facts....can u take true facts??... can u open up your mind to listen to real hard facts that will knock you out of your wonderland where in this wonderland, everything do have a solution to quarantee u success.....

If i talk some more here, i guess i will break a lot of industry players rice bowls...so, lets just keep it as a secret.
so, how?. more confuse?....do some medication to clear your mind!.   oops...not medication but meditation!..hehe...

I expect i wll get all this answer,that why i porposely post up the scale and test....
really what i expect is true,this forum is not for newbie.

TALK TO ONE OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBER IN SELANGOR BN ASSOCIATION, SEEMS LIKED ALL THE MEMBERS OF ASSOCIATION THOUGHT THAT THE NEW GP WILL APPROVED ALL SHOPLOTS FARMS...

AND THIS IS ALARMING!!! AS I THINK SOMEONE IS ACTUALLY TRYING TO HIDE ALL THE REAL FACTS OF THE 1GP FROM MANY INDUSTRY PLAYERS...
FIRST OF ALL, CONTACT DR FADZILA THEN

WE NEED CONTACTS, WE NEED ALL THE CONTACTS TO ALL LOCAL ASSOCIATION IN THE WHOLE MALAYSIA :
( SOMEONE HAD HIDE N MISINFORMED ALL LOCAL ASSO. MEMBERS...!!!....AND THE REASON...I DO NOT WISH TO KNOW..BUT I DO ABLE TO FIGURED OUT WHY N THE PURPOSE.....)

THOSE WITH ASSOCIATION FAX NO, PLS STATE HERE N IF U ARE NOT FREE TO FAX A COPY, PLS LEAVE IT HERE, I WILL FAX IT TO THEM.
WE NEED VOLUNTEERS ESPECIALLY LAWYERS, NGO, LOCAL REPRESENTATIVES IRREGARDLESS OF WHICH PARTY AS WE ARE NEUTRAL !!..
WE NEED IT FAST !  FAX THE DRAFT COPY TO THEM .....WHO IS GOING TO DO THAT N COVER WHICH STATE ?

WE NEED TO FIND THOSE POLITICIANS THAT WILL BE INVOLVED IN THE CABINET DISCUSSIONS TO RAISE OUR DILEMMA IF THEY REALLY WANT TO APPROVED IT... BEAR IN MIND, CABINET MEMBERS KNOW NUTS ABOUT THIS INDUSTRY, LOOK AT THE FIGURES OF FARMS THAT THEY PUT IN THE TABLE, IN SUNGAI PETANI, IT STATED ONLY HAVE 13 OR SO FARMS BASED ON ESTIMATION IN 1999...!!!!!!

WHAT ?????  IT IS NOW AT LEAST 310 FARMS IN SUNGAI PETANI!!!...
CAN U SEE THAT?? I AM WORRY THAT THOSE CABINET MEMBERS WILL THINK THAT THERE IS NOT MUCH PPLS THAT AFFECTED HERE...
THE NEW DRAFT DID NOT SAID MOVING ORDER BUT WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT WRITTEN THERE....ALL FARMERS WILL HAVE A HELL OF A TIME!!!

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Added on February 21, 2010, 9:19 pmREMEMBER...THIS DRAFT IS ALL FARMERS FINALE....IF GO THROUGH...

50,000 FAMILIES LIVESLIHOOD WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE!.

We don't just cry....don't worry, we are heard. Loud n clear.

We have sent SMS to many farmers, and many are working round the clock to seek more info n are investigating n are connecting to those involved to seek help.

Many local associations are been sms thks to DL (David Lim) from perak, kedah, penang, johor, kuantan and many more..
They are a few bro's here which also had make contacts with govt n some industry players to see if we can find even more info.
DL and others are trying to find more volunteers mainly near to the federal capital to help/assist in communicating with the officers whom are mainly stations in putrajaya.

with the dyfunction of the so called federal association and the inability of our selangor bird's nest association which resulted in not able or not cares in monitoring the situation that is happening now ( believe me, they are liked that, even last time when we have big problem in the garis panduan before the meeting in seremban, when offered a copy of the garis panduan for them to read and tackle the problem, they refused to take the copy as they only want a copy officially send to them by the jpv.!!

Those soh hai (sorry....bp up again) really think that they are somebody that will be respected??..if the previous GP is been approved and then only send to them...what the F they can do about it??...

So, hoping that the association can protect ur butt...is more likedly a Hope.

during the meeting in seremban, only one guy had drafted and prepared a paper to present it to the officers. All of the association top players only went there n discuss about what they will tell the officers a day before the meeting.

So, when david was scolding the officers, these soh hai in fact are enjoying their time there laughing when they heard David screw the perhiliatan on the tax issues...so tell me, do they cares much about the issue.

to them, they trust in acting liked a dog, lick the officers shoes and think that by doing that they will get what they want.

and if they don't get what they want for the mass, at least the officers will gives face to them n not take action on their farms...

Thts the reality here...and its been liked that for over a decade...
those associations are just the few bad apples ( even Selangor bn association had previously done a very good job...but not anymore...).

Luckily, more n more good local associations are been set up, and that also from the advice of DL to all the local farmers.

instead of depending on the few Top Useless industry association to cover ur butt....why not protect ur own rice bowls urself!.

now u know why those bastards association top players hated DL so much and trying to push him aside.... i seen them doing it in seremban. and this including selangor bn participant who knew nothing about the contribution of DL in this industry and also sided with the horse n lee !!..
I think we are heading to the right track with the setting up of more n more local associations in all states.

but we urgently need a FEDERAL or MALAYSIA bn association as the head of all these local associations to tackle federal issues which is the license.

we need to set it up FAST!!..

THe so called Federal bn association which claimed to representing the whole malaysia bn association in fact do not even get any support from his own state, which is kedah.

So tell me, who he is representing?? he himself.

So u want this guy to protect ur butt?...u can kiss ur butt goodbye!.

The above link leads to a blank page.

If it the same as on your website, then is only a repository for documents which anyone can deposit for downloading. Not official Veterinary Department.

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Added on February 27, 2010, 9:44 pm
yes, we are aware of Dept. of Veterinary Services position in Swiftlet ranching.  RFID tracing was actually proposed by me to Dr. Fadzila at the Juru seminar several years ago.  This was in response to the GAHP advisory then.

We have associates in constant contact with DVS. There has been no mention of final draft of Guidlines at all. Will recheck again.

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Added on February 27, 2010, 9:46 pm
yes, we are aware of Dept. of Veterinary Services position in Swiftlet ranching.  RFID tracing was actually proposed by me to Dr. Fadzila at the Juru seminar several years ago.  This was in response to the GAHP advisory then.

We have associates in constant contact with DVS. There has been no mention of final draft of Guidlines at all. Will recheck again.

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Added on February 27, 2010, 10:13 pm
Dato and everyone is extremely concerned. Unfortunately when announcements and press releases are made, it is either not seen or heard. They have not been silent. If we were not concerned, I would not be commenting.

ASNI have in the past given press releases refuting the accusations of the Heritage groups.

The state authorities are holding back on action until the National Guidelines are gazetted. ASNI is trying it's best to keep in intimate touch with the Penang State Authorities. Unfortunately partisan politics obscure our problems, usually until the last moment.

The "said" 1GP looks like a very infantile version of another given to the associations about 6 months ago. That version was discussed in Putrajaya by various heads of depts. and  representatives of swiftlet associations throughout Malaysia. Many of the points discussed and agreed upon were developed from sections similar to the  said 1GP which is why we feel that it is unlikely to be the final draft. 

If it is indeed the final draft then the various government heads of depts. have gone back on their word.

The Dept. of Veterinary Services has been very pro Swiftlet Ranching which is why Dr. Fadzila should only be approached with concrete evidence or we will look like complete idiots.