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post Feb 17 2009, 10:18 AM

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GUESS BY NOW THE MEETING IN KEDAH ALREADY STARTED OR MAYBE THEY ARE HAVING TEA BREAKS WITH SOME LOVELY NASI LEMAK DROP IN...

THIS MEETING IS NOT ONLY FOR KEDAH STATE...

OVER 100++ PBT OFFICERS FROM THE WHOLE NATION ARE ATTENDING THE MEETING TO DISCUSS ABOUT THE NATIONAL GUIDELINES...

( DO YOU NOW UNDERSTAND THE SERIOUSNESS OF THIS MATTER ?? MR MAH??

STILL WANT TO WAIT FOR ENDORSED COPY ONLY ACTION ??

SELANGOR BN ASSOCIATION IS WHO??

YOU ONLY HAVE 100+ MEMBERS??....DO YOU THINK YOU ARE THE WHO??

I AM ONE OF THE MEMBER, 0003....diao !!!....0007 BETTER .....hehe... )


LUCKILY, WE HAVE CALIBER N INFLUENTIAL PEOPLES AROUND THIS FORUM AND MANAGED TO ALERT AND MANAGED TO GET A FEW SEATS TO JOIN IN AND VOICE OUR VIEWS ON THE DRAFT NATIONAL GUIDELINES.

BESIDES DAVID LIM N HIS FRIEND, THE PRESIDENT OF MALAYSIAN BN ASSOCIATION IS IN THE MEETING....THANKS TO THE HELP OF OUR MEMBERS HERE WHO ALERTED HIM...BROTHER K??...

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Added on February 17, 2009, 10:27 amEVERYTHINGS IS CLEAR...

ALL MEMBERS PLS JOIN IN THE DISCUSSION OF CHIONGGUA GOOGLE GROUP :

EVENTHOUGH IT IS A BIT LATE, BUT PLEASE PROCEED.

THE PURPOSE OF US SPREADING NEWS, DISCUSS HERE IN THE FORUM IS NOT TO SHOW OFF OR TAKE CREDIT !!...

WE HOPED....TRULY HOPED...OUR YOUNGER GENERATIONS OF SWIFTLET FARMERS DO NOT LIVES IN WONDERLAND ANYMORE...

GO OUT AND SEE THE REAL WORLD....

IN MALAYSIA, WE HAVE BLACK, WE HAVE WHITE, WE HAVE GRAY...

WE DEPENDS ON YOU TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHTS OF SURVIVAL !!!.....

NOT EASY TO DO THINGS LIKED MR D.L. IS DOING NOW....

TRUST ME....VERY VERY TIRING.....


CONTINUE THE WAR.....


I AM VERY SURE, OUR REPRESENTATIVES ARE FACING UPHILL TASK TO CONVINCE OUR GOVT OFFICERS, THEY WILL DO THEIR BEST TO FIGHT FOR US !!!.....


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post Feb 17 2009, 05:47 PM

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What Chiongguo said is right.

Guys we can stop cursing anyone.

We need to start work the guidelines now.

The meeting went well, and Mr D.L. had full control of the situation in the meeting. AND WE HAVE RAISED OUR CONCERN TO PBT OFFICERS.


PLEASE PROCEED TO GIVES YOUR IDEAS AND PARTICIPATE IN CHIONGGUO GOOGLE GROUP.

SUPPORT HIM JUST LIKED U HAVE SUPPORTED ME.

MANY HERE OWE ME SOME TIME....THE TIME I SPEND IN YOUR FARMS CHECKING FOR YOU AND TRY MY BEST TO RECTIFY THE PROBLEMS...

NOW IS PAY BACK TIME, REGISTER N GIVES YOUR CONSTRUCTIVE COMMENTS.

TRAIN YOURSELF TO BECOMES A FIGHTER FOR OUR SWIFTLET FARMING COMMUNITY.

I AM VERY VERY THANKFUL TO MODERATOR FOR NOT THROWING ME OUT OF THIS FORUM AS I STILL USE BIG CAP...I PROMISED, THIS WILL BE THE LAST...ELSE....KICK ME OUT...PLEASE!!!!!.....

CHIONGGUO, PLEASE FORGIVES THEM....THEY ARE ALL STILL YOUNG, NEED MR D.L., LUCAS1, WEST WING, AND YOU TO GUIDE THEM.....


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Added on February 17, 2009, 5:51 pmAS FOR SARAWAK,

WE HAVE OTHER PLAN....THAT PLAN IS ONGOING. DON'T WORRY.

LEARN FROM IT....OUR FUTURE FIGHTERS...


Added on February 17, 2009, 5:54 pmAHH...THIS IS MY 68 POSTS... hehe...good no....I will end it here. Thks guys.......

I wish to apologize for all my rough comments posts. This is surely not a good example to show to you all.

If i had hurt any of you with my hands....I apologize.




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Latest News, hehe....Even MB of Kedah is fully support this industry. ( AND THIS IS NOT LUCK OHH....MANY HOURS OF DISCUSSION BET. KEDAH OFFICERS AND OUR BELOVED MR D.L. BEFORE THE MEETING STARTED)..... So, this time, MR D.L. also no need to talk liao...Even the Officer said, I think what our MB said is more than enough and i don't think any of you got any other things to add... rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

As for our beloved H....really `Luck Sei'...Don't dare to talk much....at the end he said he is only a blogger and not an expert n he said
he also don't know how to move the birds !!!....

ehh???......how come different from his planned presentation paper ??..we read his paper which we do have a copy.....ohh...different ohh....the paper mentioned him as EXPERT THAT CAN SHIFT BIRD'S .....now totally 360 degree change liao !!!....

No more expert??


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We won the war and it is the beginning as Kedah is the first stop before PBT proceed to other states and kedah representative is tasked to make another more simplify proposal for our national guidelines as the MB of kedah also found the draft guidelines too many red tapes.....and needs to be simplify to help this industry PROSPER.....

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I AM SO HAPPY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.......


BUT OUR KEDAH REPRESENTATIVE CAN REST FOR TWO DAYS BEFORE BURNING MIDNIGHT OIL AGAIN TO MAKE THE PROPOSAL TO THE KEDAH GOVT AND I AM VERY SURE OTHER STATES WILL FOLLOW TOO.....

AGAIN, WE MIGHT AGAIN SCAN IT HERE FOR YOU GUYS TO READ N STUDY N MAKE OUR PROPOSAL TOGETHER AND SUBMIT IT TO KEDAH GOVT.

GUYS, THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THEM....


LOWYAT SWIFTLET FORUMERS ......BOLEH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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AND WE HAVE 10 DAYS TO COMPLETE THE TASKS.


MR David Lim. ` 我爱你 !!!!!!!!'..........
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post Feb 17 2009, 09:31 PM

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The officers were polite explaining they are merely doing their jobs. They were also reminded by the BH owners that we are all fellow Sarawakians and are not criminals and only committed an offence under the wild life act. As most of the officers some Bumis mostly are Iban, Orang Ulu all class as OTHERS. They were reminded that what we are peacefully protesting to protect our investments is exactly what they were fighting for years for their NCR land.

A total of 5 BH were inspected till 5 PM. Tomorrow they will resume their inspection in Lutong Baru and City Center. I was also informed that similar operations were carried out in Kuching and Bintulu where nest with eggs were removed.



our hearts still with you guys...THE FIRST THING UNCLE DAVID LIM ASKED ME after the meeting with kedah govt,

Mr David Lim asked me How Is Sarawak farmers doing ??....Any news from them??

I told him, uncle ben send me two sms THAT MIRI HAD STARTED THIS MORNING... that i have not replied him back...I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TYPE ....... I FORGOT TO REMIND THEM TO TAKE MORE PHOTOS OF OFFICERS TAKING ALL THE NESTS WITH EGG N CHICK BEEN KILLED !!!....

PLEASE KEEP ON TAKING PHOTO'S......THIS IS UTMOST IMPORTANT....



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post Feb 17 2009, 09:54 PM

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By the way, I have upload the a Bahasa Translation of Updated Copy of David Lim Report to google group. Those who needs a copy, kindly register and you will received a copy in your mail. A good report to have when you want your local govt officers know more about swiftlet farming.

http://groups.google.com.au/group/Swiftlet...deline?hl=en-GB

Fully AGREED Uncle Ben. My apology is not towards H ....
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post Feb 18 2009, 07:57 AM

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GUYS,

UNCLE WEST WING AND UNCLE CHIONGGUA IS RIGHT.

We can stop cursing him. Please ignored him and we all should look to the future. He learned his lesson.

So, what lesson you guys learned from this whole episode (including me) ??

SCARY RIGHT??...

In front of you, liked a nice, lovely, caring,good father, whole hearted guy but at the back trying to stab you till you die !!!...

I also hope that we all should learned from Mr D.L., do not wait for the fire to spread to your house and then still wait for the firemens to come to your house to put it out for u.

When you received some info that a fire will occur, start ACTION !!!...don't wait!!!!.....If you think other peopels will help u and other peoples think other peoples will do this dirty jobs....We ends up liked a fool standing there watching each other BUTT and see which one is more firmer!!!!....while the fires start burning in our own pants......

WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE MR D.L. TO FIGHT FOR OUR US HERE....

ALL BN ASSOCIATIONS REPRESENTATIVES....SHAME ON YOU.

LEARN THE LESSON, DON'T ACT COCKY !!!! AND WANT TO WAIT FOR ENDORSED FIRE REPORT BEFORE START ACTING !!!!....

I talked with one of the committee member in Selangor BN Association yesterday, he becomes so defensive for the association that they are the one who help farmers when problems arise !!!....they go to sabak bernam, they go to rawang, they go to sekinchan !!!....and he told me, DON'T WORRY, THE GOVT WILL ANNOUNCE A GUIDELINE THAT WILL BE IN FAVOR TO FARMERS AND THE ASSOCIATION IS MONITORING THE SITUATION.



WHAT THE f*** !!!......I TOLD HIM...OII !!!.....YOU WANT TO READ OR NOT, NO NEED TO WAIT....I HAVE THE REPORT IN MY HOUSE, YOU WANT OR NOT!!!....HE BLANK FACE.....

We all knows You all are Good Fire Fighters, using your own money to travel to farmers farms and help them up...


THE PROBLEM WITH OUR ASSOCIATION IS LIKED OUR POLITICIANS....THEY GOT POSITION IN A SMALL POPULATED ASSOCIATION, THEN THEY BECOMES....ARROGANT !!!.....ARROGANT FOR WHAT !!!!!!.......

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WE DEFINATELY NEEDS NEW BLOODS IN ALL OUR BN ASSOCIATIONS.....MORE CALIBER COMMITTEE MEMBERS.....

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Money matters....i think is not an issue in sarawak. I am confident that they will be able to collect enough fund to fight in the court.

As i always said , you are against

61,+++ farmers in Malaysia.


Added on February 18, 2009, 8:10 amThks to Engineer Lee,

we all managed to go back to the past by reading back all the old posts written by the old members here...

read about the conversation between seeseng n swiftbuild about his new farm in klang which is been renovated in may 2007.

read about Mukah incidents...hmm.....

Saw the group pic of friends going to his friend farm and helping each other out. And i think will be difficult to take those group pic again liao..hai....

Read about how our pioneer forumers here warning newbies not to be cheated by who...

Read about pioneer forumers sharing their experiences..Engineer Lee, u really liked skynest post huh??...quite a few started with him ....

I suggest that Engineer Lee to share the full posts for V1 so that our future farmers can read the history of swiftlet farming in malaysia (online version lah)...





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post Feb 18 2009, 09:59 AM

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Unity is STRENGTH.

WE ARE WITH YOU ALL...
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post Feb 18 2009, 10:26 AM

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AGREED WITH WHAT WEST WING SAID.

BUT WE MUST NOT FORGET WITH WHAT THOSE ******* HARRY HAD DONE TO US.

WE HAVE TO REMIND ALL FARMERS TO BE ON GUARD OF HIM.

HE IS SUCH A f***ING ******* !!!!...WITH NO HEART ....WITH NO SHAME...WITH NO d*** TO ADMIT HIS WRONG DOING.

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post Feb 18 2009, 04:35 PM

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I am very confident we will win other wars and also win in sarawak case....

WE WILL WIN !!!!!!!!!!.


Added on February 18, 2009, 4:41 pmBravo to Engineer Lee,

You can download all V1 posts in deposit files...Check out the links in page 1...

You can view the files in html.........Syoik!!!!....

And Brother Engineer Lee, you earn a VIP membership for our Prestigious

`Malaysia Swiftlets Brotherhood Club' :- The benefits as below :

1) Free For Life membership but with conditions...to assist the community whenever required.
2) Need help with your farm, just email/sms/call us for FREE advices brows.gif
3) Free One Set Of Internal and External Sound. nod.gif


Will wait for the president suggestion if he wants to add additional benefits for his members. rclxms.gif

The purpose is to take cares of our Malaysia Swiftlets Brotherhood Club members farmhouse so that they have more time to help out when issue arised.

We are one big family, your farmhouse is our farmhouse.


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post Feb 18 2009, 07:04 PM

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We will see what happen next...

no need to wait for next Tsunami...We will take the culprits to court and teach him some lessons !!!!!
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post Feb 18 2009, 08:09 PM

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Relaks Tsm...that's what exactly what he wants us to react...

That will not deter him from continuing with he intend to do..

If we ourselves unite as a team, no one can harm us.

Learn from this lesson, move on.
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INSIDER NEWS :

THIS IS A FRIEND OF MINE WHO IS AN OFFICER AND PARTICIPATED IN THE KEDAH DRAFT GUIDELINES MEETING.....


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HAHAHAHHAHA...HAHAHHAHAHHA.....

SORRY.....cannot stop laughing lah!!!......hahahaha...

This what he told me the actual story that happened to our Blogger, Harry, in the meeting.


Three days ago, all the exco's in kedah already know who is Harry and about his stupid idea of Theoretically this..practically that.....

SO, THEY TOLD THEIR BOSS :

ALL : BOSS, ORANG BODOH ITU..BETUL BETUL MAU JEMPUT DIA MARI CAKAP DEKAT MEETING KAH ??

BOSS : HAI...KITA SUDAH KASI DIA OFFICIAL JEMPUTAN...SAYA PUN TAK TAU SIAPA YANG JEMPUT DIA, SAYA PUNYA KAKITANGAN KEMUNGKINAN SUDAH SILAP KALI INI..TAK ADA BAIK LAH...SUDAH PANGGIL BIAR DIA MARI, DIA HARUS AKAN CAKAP SELAMA 20 MINUTES...HALF WAY PANGGIL DIA TURUN LAH.

ALL : AI YO!!!....INI MACAM BANYAK SUFFERING LAH !!!..

thats why harry mentioned in his blog his presentation time is been shorten !
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"I was not very pleased to be given a note to cut short my talk from 20 minutes to 10 minutes.

What can I talk for 10 minutes.

What I did was to rush on each topic."quoted from harry blog.



"Hj Aziz of GEM was also there with David Lim of Sungai Patani. They were not officially invited but make their way in via the back door I guessed." Quoted from Harry blog.


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Soh Loh !!!!....You want to see the official letter of invitation for both Haji and Mr David Lim or not ??

Where are you before the meeting start ??.....Why Mr David Lim never see you....Mr David Lim is in the Kedah MB Room discussion.




"Hj Noran, the head of Kedah PBT came to congratulate me for the short talk and he said that what I have done is good for the state."


THIS IS THE KILLER !!!!.... rclxm9.gif

HAHAHAHAHHAHA.....

CANNOT STOP LIAO !!!....AHAHHAHAHHAHA...

HAHAHAHHAA.....


MY FRIEND TOLD ME WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED IS Hj Noran told him face blank that ` NASIB BAIK YOU TAK ADA CAKAP APA APA YANG LAMPAU !!! KALAU TIDAK SEMUA SUDAH MAU HxxTxx YOU !!!! '... rclxm9.gif


OMG.....


HARRY, YOU ARE MY IDOL LAH!!!

YOU SHOULD GO WRITE A BOOK AND BECOMES BEST SELLER AND EARN BILLIONS... rclxm9.gif


THIS IS NOT THE END....HAHAHHAHAHHA...


"During my meeting with him he mentioned about the problems that Kedah Excos are facing with Swiftlet Farming Industries." Quoted from Harry blog.


HAHAHA...

WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED IS...SINCE ALL EXCO ALREADY KNOW THIS JOKER HARRY...SO NO ONE WANTS TO NEAR HIM AND WASTING TIME WITH HIM DURING LUNCH TIME....SO ALL THE EXCO'S SIT IN ONE TABLE WHILE OUR MR DAVID LIM HAD TO DISCUSS SOMETHING WITH OTHER GOVT OFFICERS... OUR HARRY GOT NOTHING TO DO...THEN HE SAW ONE EXCO SITTING IN OTHER TABLE...SO HE QUICKLY GRAB THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A CHAT THE EXCO LAH...

HAHHAHA..

TURN OUT, THIS EXCO, HAS A NICKNAME , ` THE TREE ' ....IN CHINESE ` AH SU '....BECAUSE...HE IS A URUT KAKI GUY LAST TIME, AND NOT THAT WELL VERSE IN BOTH BAHASA OR ENGLISH....SO THEY ALL CALL HIM `THE TREE'...AND THIS AH SU ALSO DON'T KNOW WHO IS HARRY...

SO WHEN HARRY APPROACHED HIM....HE IS SO DELIGHTED AND HAVE A LONG CHAT WITH HARRY LAH!!!.....

AND OUR HARRY THINK HE `CHAP DO BO '....WAH....VERY ACTCY....SPEAK WITH EXCO WOH!!!.
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EVEN MORE STUNNING....WHEN MY FRIEND CHAT WITH DR REDUAN,

FRIEND : DR, WHY YOU GO N INVITE HARRY COME TO THE MEETING?

DR REDUAN : WHO SAID I INVITE HIM?...I AM SURPRISED WHY HE IS IN THE MEETING ??

FRIEND : NO!!!...U GO TO HIS BLOG!! HE SAID YOU RECOMMEND N INVITE HIM !!!!

DR REDUAN : WHAT ???.....NO!!!!
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BEST JOKE FOR THE YEAR OF COW !!!..... rclxm9.gif

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post Feb 19 2009, 07:48 AM

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WHY ONLY FOR KEDAH !!!!!......WHY !!!


I WANT MR DAVID LIM TO FORM A NATIONAL ASSOCIATION TO FIGHT FOR ALL MALAYSIANS !!!

NOT JUST KEDAH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...



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COME LAH ........ SEAFOOD WITH BIRD'S NEST SOUP !!! brows.gif


THEN AUNTIE CAN SPEND TIME IN PAVILLION SHOPPING !!!.... icon_idea.gif

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post Feb 19 2009, 09:10 AM

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OMG !!!!....

TIROK'S YOU ARE SPEECHLESS NOW YOU WANT TO BRING OUT BUDDHA??..

IT IS VERY SIMPLE TO SAY :

YES, I MAKE A MISTAKE. I M SORRY !!...

VERY EASY !!!..NO NEED TO BE d*** HEAD !!!....

I THOUGHT YOU ARE KNOWLEDGEBLE.....WHY??....

ARE YOU HIS PARTNER IN KT AND GOING TO MAKE A KILL IN KT ??

AI YA !!!.....VERY BORING LAH...I THOUGHT I CAN REST FOR AWHILE BUT AFTER KILLING ONE...ANOTHER EMERGE LIAO !!!...

MOH NGAN THAI !!!!


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post Feb 19 2009, 02:55 PM

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Sai hei !!! edited.


ALL PERAK FARMERS ALREADY SAW WHAT MR DAVID LIM DID IN KEDAH.

YOU ALL SHOULD KNOW WHAT TO DO TO PROTECT YOURSELF.

INFORM YOU LOCAL BN ASSOCIATION AND ASKED HIM TO WRITE TO PBT AND REQUEST TO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES TO ATTEND THE MEETING.

BEAR IN MIND THAT PERAK ASSOCIATION IS ONE OF THE FEW ASSOCIATION WHO DO NOTHING N ONLY ACTION WHEN FIRE START BURNING THEIR PANTS...SO PLEASE PUSH THEM TO DO IT. COMPLAIN TO POLITICIANS ....edited...lets see what he did first. Will have govt friends there to check on it...

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post Feb 19 2009, 03:09 PM

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Brothers....i am only merely suggesting....Mr David Lim will call me and scold me for coming up with such a brilliant idea....auntie will no longer cook bird's nest soup to me if i visits them...They will most likedly close their gate and release their dogs when they saw my car approaching their house..hehe..

It is not possible to form a National Association, no one will dares to join as the work loads will shorten your lifes easily...

Just imagine, when issue arise in Perak, he needs to go to perak. When issue arise in Johor, he needs to go to Johor.

All of us only Talk but very few only action and this including me...i talk then i rush then i just do some paper works...this does not count, my friend.

Mr David Lim sacrificed his own golden age retirement times to help us, to protect us as none of us can do things that he did.

With each of the association holding firmly with their positions in association so that no one can threaten them...none of the associations will work together to form a strong team to fight for the ordinary farmers.

They all have their own hidden agenda, thats why Harry use it to his advantages as we CHINESE is very Selfish peoples. ( Sorry i brought up race again).


And i also don't understand why they form a malay Association ??.....

While i knew one of the committee member there, zabri, a nice straight forward kampung boy ( hopefully, he is not yet polluted by his relative mind lah!).

Thats why we still have to stick to our own local bn association and try to make use of them, thats all we can do.

You can ask any of your local bn association committee members, what do you think of David Lim, they will straight away tell you all nonsense!! as they knew Mr David Lim will not hesitate to f*** them up if they not do their job protecting farmers !!!....


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Jack_S,

when the needle did not poke u...u don't feel the pain.

When the needle approaching u....do u stand still or jump away n Shout!!!..


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Added on February 19, 2009, 4:29 pmMelaka Association is John Wayne Association !!!!


Oh io oh io !!!

can hear the sound but never see anyone ....haha...


the chairman busy harvesting his nests .....

You don't kacau lah!!!!.....you think i got time ahh.....

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QUOTE(benchai @ Feb 19 2009, 02:11 PM)
I am not invited to talk about any other matters except on How To Be A Successful Swiftlet Farmer. At least this time I am pretty safe from those back stabbing people who love to let more people hates me.

Laugh until you si si in your pants !! Is a bad joke " blind leading the blind." Why invite sone body who don't have a scccessful HB to shout about to talk on "How to be a successful Swiftlet Farmer." aiyo ! might as well  buy a book and read  lah. Remember this guy attended the  seminar conducted by Pak Han only a year ago. cannot stop scratching my head.

This lucky man only being stab in the back. He is chinese because he drink Red Wine with me and J.Tan and Victor. Must be season drinker to know that the wine we shared is  a bit dry. Only 3 of us shared the bill.
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CWG,

don't gives up. You must approach them. Register with them..

Change them from internal.....

Don't gives up.
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post Feb 19 2009, 09:19 PM

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Hopefully it will happen to white hair lah...not innocent peoples.

West wing,...Yes. you are right..not all are the same..many good...n also a few bad...

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Since we got a few buddha fans here in this forum, every times they got nothing to say and don't want to admit they are wrong, they will bring up Buddha teaching liked they know anything about Buddhism..

Let's talk about Buddha then, from my minimal knowledge :

From a book title : A Taste Of Freedom by Ven Ajahn Chah :

We peoples don't want suffering, we want happiness. But in fact happiness is just a refined form of suffering. Suffering itself is the coarse form. You can compare them to a snake. The head of the snake is really dangerous, it has the poisonous fangs. If you touch it, the snake will bite straight away. But never mind the head, even if you go and hold onto the tail, it will turn around and bite you just the same, because both the head and the tail belong to the one snake.

In the same way, both happiness and unhappiness, or pleasure and sadness, arise from the same parent - wanting. Just that infatuation !. So When you're happy the mind isn't peaceful. It really isn't. For instance, when we get the things we like, such as wealth, prestige, praise or happiness, we become pleased as a result. But the mind still harbours some uneasiness because we're afraid of losing it. That very fear isn't a peaceful state. Later on we may actually lose that thing and then we really suffer. Thus, if you aren't aware, even if you're happy, suffering is imminent. It's just the same as grabbing the snake's tail - if you don't let go it will bite. So whether it's the snake's tail or its head, that is, wholesome or unwholesome conditions, they're all just characteristics of the wheel of Existence, of endless change."

What Buddha trying to say is to end the suffering, we have to separate this happiness and unhappiness from the mind.



So, ANY OF YOU HERER ESPECIALLY THOSE BUDDHA PREACH BOY BOY...

YOU PREACH ABOUT IT BUT YOU NEVER FOLLOW !!!....

SO DON'T PREACH BUDDHISM TO US...

WE ALL KNOW BUDDHISM...BUT HOW MANY HERE CAN DO IT IN PRACTICAL LIFE...WELL...EXCEPT MONK.

DEFINATELY NOT FARMERS N NOT TIRUK !!!!

WE FARMERS HAPPY WHEN BIRDS ENTER OUR FARMS...

WE FARMERS NOT HAPPY WHEN BIRDS ENTER OTHER PEOPLES FARM BUT NOT OUR FARM!!!..

WE FARMERS HAPPY WHEN OTHER PRAISE HIS FARM IS A SUCCESS!!!

WE FARMERS NOT HAPPY WHEN OTHER SAID HIS FARM IS A FAILED FARM !!!...



SO PLEASE DON'T PREACH ABOUT BUDDHISM IN THIS FORUM MR TIRUK.


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Added on February 19, 2009, 9:49 pm
QUOTE(calvinswiftlet @ Feb 19 2009, 09:30 PM)
donno the message come is true or not.heard that sarikie is going to be in danger for enforcement cause those owner willing to burn down own cars to show white hair their  guts if the enforcement dismentle their farm.some said this is only income to support their children to study oversea ,car installment and duit pasar.now they dun have income how to pay cars and ask their childer sell satay oversea to pay their own bills
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Calvinswiftlet.....This is exactly what the majority of farmers is facing.

Most of them rely on nests income to survive.

And to close down farms is like breaking their rice bowl!!!...

Where are they going to find money to feed their childrens??....


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TO THOSE WHO HAD INTENDED TO DO JUST THAT TO BREAK OTHER PEOPLES RICE BOWL !!!...


DAMN YOU !!!!..


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