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Stock market V21, Huge Stimulus Age
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Start of the huge stimulus age...
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Hmm.. US closed slighly red.
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Wow..so fast version 21.
Well as usual, dreams_achiever reporting in  QUOTE U.S. Congress Gives Final Approval to $787 Billion Stimulus. Senate has given their approval.http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206...q4W8&refer=home Waiting for Obama to sign the bill. Monday will be good day to load some stocks for week long rally. (hope so) |
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Feb 14 2009, 12:12 PM
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Some how I think our market has reached the bottom sometimes in Oct or Nov 08.
How good it could move up from here depends the effectiveness of global stimulus packages. Till to date, as usual more on talking and still talking, and shorts of real aggressive actions by the so called Big Economies. And our second --- is tied to to the UMNO election soon. Just my 2sen opinion. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Feb 14 2009, 12:15 PM |
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QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Feb 14 2009, 12:11 PM) Wow..so fast version 21. Dreams_achiever mind sharing a little what are the counters in the play for the upcoming week ?Well as usual, dreams_achiever reporting in Senate has given their approval. Waiting for Obama to sign the bill. Monday will be good day to load some stocks for week long rally. (hope so)   Need to adjust for some recovery at best possible. (with the current market data on the publication) This post has been edited by lsmpro80: Feb 14 2009, 01:13 PM |
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Let me be the one that start this thread can?!?!?!
i will only start v21 and v22 because my buying in stock/share will officially be over come month of June 09. This 4 month is going for kill!!! so version 21 and 22 very important for me!!! Everyone HUAT!!! |
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neo18
there is 2 thread of the same topic.. someone created one earlier .. lolz |
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Feb 14 2009, 01:44 PM) Let me be the one that start this thread can?!?!?! Neo18, you're bit too late liao. HTT faster than you.i will only start v21 and v22 because my buying in stock/share will officially be over come month of June 09. This 4 month is going for kill!!! so version 21 and 22 very important for me!!! Everyone HUAT!!! Maybe version 22 will reserved for you to open..lol!  |
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QUOTE(lsmpro80 @ Feb 14 2009, 01:13 PM) Dreams_achiever mind sharing a little what are the counters in the play for the upcoming week ? Well, next March 10 will be tabling of mini budget by Najib. So most probably local KLSE market will rally. Need to adjust for some recovery at best possible. (with the current market data on the publication) I would say go accumulate plantation stocks such as KLK, IOICorp, BKawan etc... or GLCs companies such as Ramunia, Gamuda, TNB etc... (Disclaimer: Just my personal opinion. Not treat as recommendation. Buy at own risks. Analysis the stocks before buying.) |
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Feb 14 2009, 03:40 PM
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Waw, so far got people booking for V 22.
The market looks super bullish.  Obama and Najib factors This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Feb 14 2009, 03:41 PM |
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Feb 14 2009, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Feb 14 2009, 01:44 PM) Let me be the one that start this thread can?!?!?! Hehe... because V20 closed mah... then I mah just respond opening V21 loh i will only start v21 and v22 because my buying in stock/share will officially be over come month of June 09. This 4 month is going for kill!!! so version 21 and 22 very important for me!!! Everyone HUAT!!! |
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Feb 14 2009, 07:34 PM
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aiya fast fast launch the stimulus package 2 la c najib ni slow slow lagi,
the 1st stimulus package only 7B compare 2 other country in the region this small amount mana enough |
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Feb 14 2009, 08:16 PM
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i;m looking closely at ASTRO ALL ASIA NETWORK.
price is at their all time low of RM2.05!!!! maybe monday will whack 100lot |
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Feb 14 2009, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Feb 14 2009, 08:16 PM) i;m looking closely at ASTRO ALL ASIA NETWORK. I haven't been following ASTRO but why is their prices going down? price is at their all time low of RM2.05!!!! maybe monday will whack 100lot |
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Feb 14 2009, 08:42 PM
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Hi Sky,
That's what I said in V20. Hope we're right! I thinking of increase my stake in Feb and Mar. Then, I can complete my shopping in April. Hi Neo, I'll complete my portfolio 2 mths ahead of you! QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 14 2009, 12:12 PM) Some how I think our market has reached the bottom sometimes in Oct or Nov 08. How good it could move up from here depends the effectiveness of global stimulus packages. Till to date, as usual more on talking and still talking, and shorts of real aggressive actions by the so called Big Economies. And our second --- is tied to to the UMNO election soon. Just my 2sen opinion. |
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Feb 14 2009, 09:45 PM
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Anyone know why SUNWAY-WR is suspended?
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Feb 14 2009, 10:45 PM
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QUOTE(wongck @ Feb 14 2009, 09:45 PM) Anyone know why SUNWAY-WR is suspended? not sure but luckily i sell all my shares on this stock and get some profit b4 Thursday cause the letter i receive state it expiry was on 16/02/2009 which it didn't state on my etrade.. |
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I believe on 13/02/2009 the Sunway-WR will be converted to warrant at RM0.20 which my remisier asked me whether i want to convert it or not.
Luckily i manage to sell it at RM0.13 last minute  |
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Feb 14 2009, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Feb 14 2009, 08:16 PM) i;m looking closely at ASTRO ALL ASIA NETWORK. yeah, i already whacked some b4 ex-dividend last month and sold off some after ex-date. Also looking to whack somemore.price is at their all time low of RM2.05!!!! maybe monday will whack 100lot |
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Feb 15 2009, 12:05 AM
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I read the Weekly edge stating the Interim Single Tier Dividend 30% for IOIcorp and the ex date at 18/02.
Will IOIcorp continue to be bullish? |
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Feb 15 2009, 01:03 AM
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Congrat ... v21 now!
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QUOTE(wongck @ Feb 14 2009, 09:45 PM) Anyone know why SUNWAY-WR is suspended? QUOTE(edwin32us @ Feb 14 2009, 11:45 PM) I believe on 13/02/2009 the Sunway-WR will be converted to warrant at RM0.20 which my remisier asked me whether i want to convert it or not. WR means warrant rightLuckily i manage to sell it at RM0.13 last minute It is just a piece of application form/right enable you to subscribe Sunway-warrant at RM0.20. So after you bought the WR, you need to apply/buy for the warrant, otherwise the WR is deem void (your $$ in WR evaporise) after the expiration of last date of acceptance of the warrant application. |
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QUOTE Well, next March 10 will be tabling of mini budget by Najib. So most probably local KLSE market will rally. I would say go accumulate plantation stocks such as KLK, IOICorp, BKawan etc... or GLCs companies such as Ramunia, Gamuda, TNB etc... (Disclaimer: Just my personal opinion. Not treat as recommendation. Buy at own risks. Analysis the stocks before buying.) Affirmative!! Got it.. okay... Intensive source research today.. |
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Feb 15 2009, 05:56 PM
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Remember buy on rumour, sell on news.
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Feb 15 2009, 08:27 PM
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Is China's economy getting better? http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.p...-slowdown-bites
Puncak will reject offer (also came out "The Edge Magazine) : http://sensecents.blogspot.com/ Risky KNM? Read the last post posted by Samgoss : https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=29...308171050840034 |
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Feb 15 2009, 08:56 PM
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lao eh... v21 already.. i m in page 2.. slow liao..
HUAT arrrr... to everyone.. good luck tmr! |
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Feb 15 2009, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 15 2009, 05:56 PM) Remember buy on rumour, sell on news. yup so any rumour or news for 2moro market will surge like last friday? |
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Feb 15 2009, 11:18 PM
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Hopefully Ramunia/ Wa goes up since the oil price went up on Friday and let hope it will goreng goreng.
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Feb 15 2009, 08:27 PM) Is China's economy getting better? http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.p...-slowdown-bites Can i have the artical for PUNCAK info?? ThanksPuncak will reject offer (also came out "The Edge Magazine) : http://sensecents.blogspot.com/ Risky KNM? Read the last post posted by Samgoss : https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=29...308171050840034 |
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QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Feb 14 2009, 12:11 PM) Wow..so fast version 21. That also means signal printing dollar and flood the economy with huge amount Of USD, Gold is aprreciated 4.5% for the last three week. In the longer run US stock price will goes up because of devaluation of USD. However, current quater investor is US still looking at risk aversion and still 'fear' factor. DJI friday closing is the lowest in 2009, will it go for 2008 low?Well as usual, dreams_achiever reporting in Senate has given their approval. Waiting for Obama to sign the bill. Monday will be good day to load some stocks for week long rally. (hope so) Current SPY market price is USD 82.76 and a lot more awaiting put below strike 82 and large open interest low prob of expiring. |
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From recession to depression?
http://www.morganstanley.com/views/gef/index.html#anchor7467 "Money matters. Hence, no depression this time. The key lesson from the Great Depression is that policy, and especially monetary policy, matters a lot. Central bankers around the world have learned that lesson and have not only cut rates early and aggressively, but have also engaged in quantitative easing and are, together with governments, stabilising the banking system. Thus, money supply is expanding rather than contracting. This, together with the coming fiscal expansion, is the reason why we think that the widespread Depression angst is just that – angst." |
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QUOTE(uncletat @ Feb 16 2009, 12:19 AM) Can i have the artical for PUNCAK info?? Thanks Will type out the info tonight as I will be busy the whole day today.....  |
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Feb 16 2009, 06:42 AM) Will type out the info tonight as I will be busy the whole day today..... Waiver on CPO windfall tax expected soon http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...s/kong/Article/ Bullish on crude palm oil stocks.  |
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Japan's GDP shrinks most since 1974 oil shock, N225 -74.05
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yeah LCL up again yeah
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LCL so hot today!
QUOTE(mo_meng @ Feb 16 2009, 09:11 AM) yeah LCL up again yeah |
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Feb 16 2009, 09:11 AM) yeah LCL up again yeah  |
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mrcb....today's play!!!
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Feb 16 2009, 09:19 AM
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lucky i grabbed lcl when morgan start to left the play
unluckily its not the lowest haha |
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As long as we make money! That's what important!
QUOTE(mo_meng @ Feb 16 2009, 09:19 AM) lucky i grabbed lcl when morgan start to left the play unluckily its not the lowest haha |
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all the rubber glove manufacturers seems to be up and going up only... wonder whats going on!?
if i am not mistaken is close to 3 weeks consecutive? |
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Feb 16 2009, 09:29 AM
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LCL shoot to 0.54!!!
Added on February 16, 2009, 9:57 amnow shoot down already...  This post has been edited by chyaw: Feb 16 2009, 09:57 AM |
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Feb 16 2009, 09:29 AM) LCL shoot to 0.54!!! Losing steam? Added on February 16, 2009, 9:57 amnow shoot down already... |
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Feb 16 2009, 10:20 AM
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all dont sell ma push up the price ma
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QUOTE(Freelancer @ Feb 16 2009, 11:01 AM) Losing steam? the uptrend is still continue in the next few days.  |
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Feb 16 2009, 10:20 AM) all dont sell ma push up the price ma Maybe need to inform more people |
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QUOTE(PBB boleh @ Feb 16 2009, 11:23 AM) Maybe need to inform more people i think whose sold the stock is the one who brought it last weeks. I still holding the stocks. |
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Feb 16 2009, 10:39 AM
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wow nice, genting is moving ...
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Feb 16 2009, 10:39 AM
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bought 50 lot of ASTRO @ 2.05!!!
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COOL, version 21 already & reporting in
QUOTE(cason80 @ Feb 16 2009, 10:39 AM) wow nice, genting is moving ... i bet it wont go anywhere QUOTE(Neo18 @ Feb 16 2009, 10:39 AM) bought 50 lot of ASTRO @ 2.05!!! good for u, i'm yet to buy any stock this year my first purchase of February!!! This post has been edited by fergie1100: Feb 16 2009, 10:51 AM |
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Look to sell into this bear market rally
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Feb 16 2009, 10:57 AM
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Gamuda today bleed very high lol
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QUOTE(shoduken @ Feb 16 2009, 10:57 AM) Gamuda today bleed very high lol .. and Puncak too..  |
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Feb 16 2009, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(lowyat888 @ Feb 16 2009, 11:53 AM) Look to sell into this bear market rally once this news is release who is dare to buy the stocks for burning. http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...icle/index_html i will looking the opp for off load my stock now. slowly. market is pending to crash this week. This post has been edited by sampoo: Feb 16 2009, 11:12 AM |
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QUOTE(sampoo @ Feb 16 2009, 11:11 AM) once this news is release who is dare to buy the stocks for burning. I think that is the purpose, they want it to maintain low. scare people away so that big zig zag don't occur else got people become rich also got people goes broke.This post has been edited by AzerothJr: Feb 16 2009, 11:14 AM |
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QUOTE(AzerothJr @ Feb 16 2009, 12:13 PM) I think that is the purpose, they want it to maintain low. scare people away so that big zig zag don't occur else got people become rich also got people goes broke. the market actually still very bad. but, i personally think the rally will only end this fri, but if it come today it seem too early. But, the uptend cycle still continue and not end yet till April. market is no moving for almost 1 hour. battle between buyers and sellers. no eye see. This post has been edited by sampoo: Feb 16 2009, 11:42 AM |
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Feb 15 2009, 06:28 PM) all the rubber glove manufacturers seems to be up and going up only... wonder whats going on!? Rubber futures is up again today. CPO also up today.if i am not mistaken is close to 3 weeks consecutive? |
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Feb 16 2009, 12:08 PM
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QUOTE(sampoo @ Feb 16 2009, 11:17 AM) market is no moving for almost 1 hour. battle between buyers and sellers. no eye see. Bursa system down? |
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Confirm - Bursa server down. Waiting for verification on reopen time.
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Obama not helping? why RED RED RED???
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Feb 16 2009, 01:09 PM) Confirm - Bursa server down. Waiting for verification on reopen time. market will be crash kaw kaw in the afternoon again.  but, good today and sell tomorrow morning. |
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Feb 16 2009, 12:16 PM
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Bursa system down again.. time also frozen.
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Feb 16 2009, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(Freelancer @ Feb 16 2009, 01:16 PM) Bursa system down again.. time also frozen. dun no this time who need to responsible again. |
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Feb 16 2009, 12:22 PM
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har down again r no wonder i cant c any movement
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Feb 16 2009, 12:23 PM
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yahla no wonder. i tot what the heck, so freaking calm and peace
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Feb 16 2009, 12:25 PM
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btw how u noe the system down sry juz wonder
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Feb 16 2009, 12:26 PM
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since when it's down? pending to the sex scandal news?
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Feb 16 2009, 12:28 PM
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Server down, don't know when Bursa system will come online...no updates for us yet.
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Feb 16 2009, 12:28 PM
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ha down again ah? when system up, i hope everything is up too xD haha
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Feb 16 2009, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Feb 16 2009, 12:26 PM) since when it's down? pending to the sex scandal news? sry i dont get u what scandal ? |
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QUOTE(lklatmy @ Feb 16 2009, 12:29 PM) deleted. any update info, mr remisier?  |
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Feb 16 2009, 12:44 PM
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Globally, money is not enough.
For Bursa, holidays not enough. Bursa Boleh. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Feb 16 2009, 12:45 PM |
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hahahaha malaysia have a packet of holiday man tak cukup wa.... nothing say ........
bila they will be online back . ?? haizzzz |
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Feb 16 2009, 01:34 PM
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huh??? down again...how many times liao?????useless crap.....
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Feb 16 2009, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Feb 16 2009, 01:34 PM) huh??? down again...how many times liao?????useless crap..... wa how many time you exprience before ????? |
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Feb 16 2009, 01:39 PM
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Sometimes I wonder how can such a very important medium can go down a few times already this year?
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Feb 16 2009, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(whoknowz @ Feb 16 2009, 01:36 PM) wa how many time you exprience before ????? In my first 8 months until now, 3 times. |
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Feb 16 2009, 01:43 PM
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Welcome to M'sia, a land where anything also can (Boleh!)
QUOTE(Freelancer @ Feb 16 2009, 01:39 PM) Sometimes I wonder how can such a very important medium can go down a few times already this year? |
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Feb 16 2009, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(eltaria @ Feb 16 2009, 01:42 PM) In my first 8 months until now, 3 times. Their IT guys are gonna get it up in their S. |
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Biasa lah, soon you would get use to it.
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haizzzzz macam snail............. forex better hehehehe just like
turtle and rabbit ......... turtule slow for big player very good .cause it will win in the end if he got passion . rabbit fast but if you too fast you will get hit .... This post has been edited by whoknowz: Feb 16 2009, 01:51 PM |
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Trading on Bursa Malaysia halts due to technical problems
By Fintan Ng KUALA LUMPUR: Trading on Bursa Malaysia was halted at 12.19pm Monday due to a problem encountered with the stock exchange’s price dissemination system. Bursa Malaysia Bhd public relations head Geeta Balakrishnan said in a press statement that trading on equities and derivatives was halted until further notice. Meanwhile, Sydney-based Deutsche Bank AG chief economist Darren Gibbs said in a report that markets should trade quietly on Monday due to a holiday in the US. At 12.30pm, Tokyo’s Nikkei 225 was 0.22% lower at 7,762.39, Hong Kong’s Hang Seng Index fell 1.71% to 13,322.93, Shanghai’s A share index was up 1.32% to 2,351.42, Seoul’s Kospi Index was down 0.89% to 1,181.78 while Singapore’s Straits Times Index fell 0.48% to 1,697.52. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Feb 16 2009, 01:54 PM |
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QUOTE(htt @ Feb 14 2009, 12:04 PM) test Added on February 16, 2009, 2:01 pm QUOTE(Freelancer @ Feb 16 2009, 11:01 AM) Losing steam? Ya, please dont sell LCL....... say no to peanut!!!!This post has been edited by ABC2020: Feb 16 2009, 02:01 PM |
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Feb 16 2009, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE(whoknowz @ Feb 16 2009, 01:36 PM) wa how many time you exprience before ????? Severe case was during last year July.... halted for the whole day & the CIO of BURSA resigned due to thatAfter they implemented the million worth of system on Dec last year..... this shud be the 3rd time the system went off "earlier" than being told |
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Feb 16 2009, 02:09 PM
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100 million server/system down for 3 times since last year end introduction?
HDD failure again? Wonder how come everytime around 12-2pm broke down one, if not mistaken, everytime system problem occur during that time. Weather too hot until server need a rest?  |
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Feb 16 2009, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 16 2009, 12:42 PM) any update info, mr remisier? Pre-opening afternoon session will be delayed until further notice. |
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Feb 16 2009, 02:21 PM
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haih, what price dissemination problem was it?
Any more detailed information? It'll be pretty messed up, if the prices were not what it seems to be? or what? |
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Feb 16 2009, 02:22 PM
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pre open already .
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Feb 16 2009, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(lklatmy @ Feb 16 2009, 02:18 PM) Pre-opening afternoon session will be delayed until further notice. Bursa is always very strict on brokers, so called by laws.But , they themselves, never mind lah. |
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Feb 16 2009, 02:23 PM
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System up liao!
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Feb 16 2009, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(lklatmy @ Feb 16 2009, 02:23 PM) System up liao! so u r remier from which brokerage house |
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Feb 16 2009, 02:27 PM
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aiks....all prices reset back one ar???
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Feb 16 2009, 02:29 PM
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hoho, v21 ady
let's earn $$$ together |
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Feb 16 2009, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(Junior83 @ Feb 16 2009, 02:29 PM) hoho, v21 ady i lose money in v20 le let's earn $$$ together now need revenge |
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Feb 16 2009, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(aoisky @ Feb 16 2009, 02:25 PM) so u r remier from which brokerage house he's our official insider, specially for lowyat forum |
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Feb 16 2009, 02:35 PM
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afternoon session transaction become so slow
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Feb 16 2009, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(aoisky @ Feb 16 2009, 02:25 PM) so u r remier from which brokerage house One of the bank backed one.Not important lah. There's also a Bursa employee here,but long time didn't see him post. This post has been edited by lklatmy: Feb 16 2009, 02:41 PM |
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Feb 16 2009, 02:39 PM
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itrade still shows:
Message from Bursa Malaysia Helpdesk (2009-02-16 12:26PM): Securities and Derivatives Market halted until further notice. Still got problem? |
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Feb 16 2009, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(lklatmy @ Feb 16 2009, 02:36 PM) One of the bank backed one.Not important lah. HLebroking ? ok la. erm so got any insider news share share here k |
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Feb 16 2009, 02:49 PM
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Looks like the sytem hang again.
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Feb 16 2009, 02:53 PM
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can la, is working, can key in orders.
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Feb 16 2009, 02:55 PM
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ya hang d awhile .... now i think ok d
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Feb 16 2009, 02:55 PM
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But running on Pentium 3 or Celeron.
Perhaps can ask for extended hours till 8pm. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Feb 16 2009, 02:57 PM |
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Feb 16 2009, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 16 2009, 02:55 PM) But running on Pentium 3 or Celeron. LOL.  |
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Feb 16 2009, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(whoknowz @ Feb 16 2009, 02:55 PM) ya hang d awhile .... now i think ok d No lah.. nothing moving. .. and the time shows 11:54AM. This post has been edited by Freelancer: Feb 16 2009, 02:58 PM |
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Feb 16 2009, 02:58 PM
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wa. then really like snail .................
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Feb 16 2009, 03:02 PM
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Sigh.. still hanging...
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Feb 16 2009, 03:06 PM
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its moving slow only what platform u guys using that is still hang and display incorrect time?
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Feb 16 2009, 03:07 PM
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mine moving wor.. HLebroking here.. and everything is bleeding in my screen >.<
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Feb 16 2009, 03:09 PM
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yes thanks to bursa new system lo
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Feb 16 2009, 03:12 PM
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CIMB investment top 3 pick!!!
a. Resort b. TM c. YTL Power |
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Feb 16 2009, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Feb 16 2009, 03:12 PM) CIMB investment top 3 pick!!! But I think Resorts is being pushed down so that some people can buy at lower price before the financials are out. a. Resort b. TM c. YTL Power |
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Feb 16 2009, 03:22 PM
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when will be the report out?
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Feb 16 2009, 03:24 PM
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wow ci like waterfall now fall so many not much transaction either
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Feb 16 2009, 03:25 PM
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boring monday trade
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Feb 16 2009, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE(Freelancer @ Feb 16 2009, 03:16 PM) But I think Resorts is being pushed down so that some people can buy at lower price before the financials are out. when resort financial will out  ?? |
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Feb 16 2009, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(Junior83 @ Feb 16 2009, 03:35 PM) when resort financial will out latest end of this month.... probly around last week of the month ?? |
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Feb 16 2009, 03:53 PM
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Are we expecting good news or bad news from Resort???
QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Feb 16 2009, 03:42 PM) latest end of this month.... probly around last week of the month |
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Feb 16 2009, 03:53 PM
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LCL falls to 0.5 level again, lucky I ran away at 0.53 for some peanut profits
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Feb 16 2009, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Feb 16 2009, 03:53 PM) Are we expecting good news or bad news from Resort??? My 2 cents worth it will be for the previous year, so it should show a bit of drop in their turnover but shouldnt be much ....as long as they don't open their mounth and start saying "the forecast for this year will be down by XX%" than gonna see a big slide. otherwise i reckon the bad result would signal time to move in and grab some cheap shares. Added on February 16, 2009, 4:01 pmi still dont get it, although i agree that prices of FCPO will hover around 1600-1700 avrg... it seems plantation stocks are very upbeat gaining 1- 2 cents almost on a daily basis for small caps, i have yet to see any significant price drop in share holding although rumour to be a slump in demand? This post has been edited by aurora97: Feb 16 2009, 04:01 PM |
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Feb 16 2009, 04:02 PM
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I guess they can get at least 0.22 EPS.
QUOTE(aurora97 @ Feb 16 2009, 03:58 PM) My 2 cents worth it will be for the previous year, so it should show a bit of drop in their turnover but shouldnt be much .... as long as they don't open their mounth and start saying "the forecast for this year will be down by XX%" than gonna see a big slide. otherwise i reckon the bad result would signal time to move in and grab some cheap shares. |
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Feb 16 2009, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Feb 16 2009, 03:53 PM) Are we expecting good news or bad news from Resort??? "Flat" news i believe.... same like the price but i think RESORTS is still a profit making company.... thanks to RESORTS, else GENTING's is going to be more ugly..... |
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Feb 16 2009, 04:20 PM
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oo shit busy just now .. once back LCL drop back liao
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Feb 16 2009, 04:33 PM
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Looks like 0.50 is the low for today, too bad, Qing at 0.5 but dont look like will get today.
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Feb 16 2009, 04:33 PM
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gulp... sold my ram-wa for peanuts gain and jump boat to Gamuda.
hopefully it could rally more on the upcoming stimulus II plan announcement. |
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Feb 16 2009, 05:14 PM
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My rubbish stock (KAF) always got ppl want to buy 1 lot. The good news is my selling margin is high enough to cover to losses. Actually, gain RM11!!! The bad news is I don't know when I can finish selling it off (at my selling margin price)...
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Feb 16 2009, 05:42 PM
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wow 1 lot always .. scary cannot sell enough to cover the cost haha
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Feb 16 2009, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Feb 16 2009, 05:14 PM) My rubbish stock (KAF) always got ppl want to buy 1 lot. The good news is my selling margin is high enough to cover to losses. Actually, gain RM11!!! The bad news is I don't know when I can finish selling it off (at my selling margin price)... Cheer up! 1 lot means your queue is efficient.. always at the top. |
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Feb 16 2009, 06:29 PM
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he maybe everyday also q to sell at those price to let all his shares out
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Feb 16 2009, 06:39 PM
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i got ZELAN and PUNCAK in hand. No eye see....
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Feb 16 2009, 07:14 PM
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ZELAN drop liao 2day, 2moro market may b better 2day market a little bit cause by the bursa server down
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Feb 16 2009, 08:53 PM
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Haizzz.. so busy these few days.... here's some info on Puncak Niaga... lazy to type out from "The Edge Magazine"....
http://bursastreet.blogspot.com/ |
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Feb 16 2009, 09:05 PM
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hopefully selangor state gov will revise the proposal...
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Feb 16 2009, 09:33 PM
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ANyone here still holding LCL ?
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Feb 16 2009, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(vexus @ Feb 16 2009, 09:33 PM) ANyone here still holding LCL ? I'm still holding it....  |
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Feb 16 2009, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE(vexus @ Feb 16 2009, 09:33 PM) ANyone here still holding LCL ? I wanna hold some tomoro |
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Feb 16 2009, 11:17 PM
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Japanese GDP shrink by 12.7%.
That's an amazing double digit figure for the world 2nd largest economy. |
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Feb 17 2009, 12:15 AM
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U.S. Markets closed for Washington's Birthday/Presidents' Day.
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Feb 17 2009, 08:49 AM
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Guys n Gals ... Ready 2 Rumble !! hehe ;-P
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Feb 17 2009, 09:02 AM
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US stock holiday....
Any pick today?  |
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Feb 17 2009, 09:13 AM
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market is most likely going to flat as an airport today with no direction... nothing exciting worth looking at except for Bursa Malaysia counter should be interesting since its the only counter that has not recovered much...
unlike Maybank sime Tenaga all this counters touched Rm 5 or lower be4 making a dramatic U turn... does this mean Bursa will do the same? |
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QUOTE(Junior83 @ Feb 17 2009, 09:02 AM) US stock holiday.... Any pick today?  hhmm.. let see.. a few is in the list...hartalega.. really in the rally today after the announcement.. still queuing.. but i think should be "hong dou kat siu" .. the boat already moving... Genting is still staying strong there.. Picorp is wary.. and getting weaker.. Landmark is always working the opposite to the rest.. lol... seems pretty much moving today MRCB ... queuing for it.. hehe.. Holy Cow... check this.. now... all becoming red... what a play This post has been edited by lsmpro80: Feb 17 2009, 09:20 AM |
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Feb 17 2009, 09:21 AM
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Feb 17 2009, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE(sampoo @ Feb 17 2009, 09:21 AM) sampooo.. how come i got access denied.. for your link? |
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Feb 17 2009, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE(lsmpro80 @ Feb 17 2009, 10:23 AM) sampooo.. how come i got access denied.. for your link http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...88&sec=business? pai seh. |
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Feb 17 2009, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE pai seh. tongue.gif That's more like it.. lolz..  .. after checking that up .. its quite true for the sudden surge that doesnt have much of the solid foundation to support the hiking price for LCL..  thank you for the info ..This post has been edited by lsmpro80: Feb 17 2009, 09:34 AM |
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Feb 17 2009, 09:35 AM
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QUOTE(lsmpro80 @ Feb 17 2009, 10:30 AM) That's more like it.. lolz.. it is in its U-turn curve now. i bought some at 0.505 just now. .. after checking that up .. its quite true for the sudden surge that doesnt have much of the solid foundation to support the hiking price for LCL.. thank you for the info .. |
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Feb 17 2009, 09:35 AM
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.. Guysm i have a question. How come sometimes for certain counters, the last price is not out the moment the trading time is commenced? supposedly the trading price should be presented right for all the counters.. ? Added on February 17, 2009, 9:38 am QUOTE it is in its U-turn curve now. i bought some at 0.505 just now. smile.gif Bravo .. congratulation.. mine still queuing at 0.50lolz  This post has been edited by lsmpro80: Feb 17 2009, 09:38 AM |
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Feb 17 2009, 09:41 AM
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Gamuda, go go go
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Feb 17 2009, 09:43 AM
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Pana, your KLK swims back downstream already.
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Feb 17 2009, 09:44 AM
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Whoa.. CI is running downhill currently..
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Feb 17 2009, 09:48 AM
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QUOTE(AzerothJr @ Feb 17 2009, 09:43 AM) Pana, your KLK swims back downstream already. ppl are reaping the bananas |
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Feb 17 2009, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 17 2009, 09:41 AM) Gamuda, go go go pana.. gamuda seems like cannot fly |
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Feb 17 2009, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(lsmpro80 @ Feb 17 2009, 09:35 AM) Bravo .. congratulation.. mine still queuing at 0.50 Congrats.. I think you got yours edy haa at 0.500.. lolz This post has been edited by Freelancer: Feb 17 2009, 09:52 AM |
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Feb 17 2009, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE(Freelancer @ Feb 17 2009, 09:52 AM) Congrats.. I think you got yours edy haa at 0.500.. Thank god i didnt take away.. gosh.. Added on February 17, 2009, 9:57 amGuys, watch out for genting.. is really ... sliding .. i think got tripped by a little banana skin.. (scratching head and wonder) Added on February 17, 2009, 10:00 amLCL .. very suspicious... just keep gulping in the buying call Added on February 17, 2009, 10:02 am Proton is speeding up like a Satria Neo Performance.. This post has been edited by lsmpro80: Feb 17 2009, 10:02 AM |
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Feb 17 2009, 10:04 AM
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my screen all red la in fact.
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Feb 17 2009, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 17 2009, 10:04 AM) my screen all red la in fact. No worries pana... red means "Ong".. Bull is coming just that got to hang around for awhile |
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Feb 17 2009, 10:08 AM
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i aint worries, lol
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Feb 17 2009, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(lsmpro80 @ Feb 17 2009, 09:53 AM) Added on February 17, 2009, 10:02 am Proton is speeding up like a Satria Neo Performance.. |
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Feb 17 2009, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(lsmpro80 @ Feb 17 2009, 09:53 AM) Added on February 17, 2009, 10:00 amLCL .. very suspicious... just keep gulping in the buying call Added on February 17, 2009, 10:02 am Proton is speeding up like a Satria Neo Performance..We're waiting for the DOW tonight. Any ideas on how the dow will perform? It's already broken its last support, today will be crucial if dow can climb back up to 7900+ levels. failing which, bursa will nosedive tomorrow? |
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Feb 17 2009, 10:25 AM
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bursa system down again, figures seem not much moving...
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Feb 17 2009, 10:28 AM
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moving...
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Feb 17 2009, 10:34 AM
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low volume... so boring...
QUOTE(sampoo @ Feb 17 2009, 10:25 AM) bursa system down again, figures seem not much moving... |
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Feb 17 2009, 10:39 AM
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another boring day.. and bleeding :|
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Feb 17 2009, 10:47 AM
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bought 100 lot of RESORT - CJ @ 0.11!!!
my first warrant!!! |
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Feb 17 2009, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(Freelancer @ Feb 17 2009, 10:17 AM) I have some lots in Proton. I hope it will go up more once the new MPV launches soon. The MPV won't be cheap, personally not looking good at it |
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Feb 17 2009, 10:53 AM
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100 lot? No fun. At least 500 lar!
QUOTE(Neo18 @ Feb 17 2009, 10:47 AM) bought 100 lot of RESORT - CJ @ 0.11!!! my first warrant!!! |
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Feb 17 2009, 10:55 AM
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100 lot is RM1100 la.
50 lot is RM5500!!! althought i can afford, but since this is my first warrant. better be cautious... I don't really got an exit strategy yet.. how does selling when RESORT mothershare touch RM2.50 sound? good strategy? |
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Feb 17 2009, 10:56 AM
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whose by the stocks last friday and yesterday will get trap again.
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Feb 17 2009, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Feb 17 2009, 10:47 AM) bought 100 lot of RESORT - CJ @ 0.11!!! Buy so little? my first warrant!!! 100 lot only cost 1.1K only. Not your style then. |
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Feb 17 2009, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 17 2009, 10:56 AM) Buy so little? Dear Cherroy,100 lot only cost 1.1K only. Not your style then. I already take HUGE RISK by playing with SHARE MARGIN FINANCING. I better not take any additional risk!!!Now, i used up 350k worth of financing. Plan to max out 600k by end May 09. So better be cautious |
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Feb 17 2009, 11:00 AM
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Whoa.. Resorts really being push down. See the huge volume sell queue.
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Feb 17 2009, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Feb 17 2009, 11:59 AM) Dear Cherroy, wat is the interest per annum? I already take HUGE RISK by playing with SHARE MARGIN FINANCING. I better not take any additional risk!!!Now, i used up 350k worth of financing. Plan to max out 600k by end May 09. So better be cautious |
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Feb 17 2009, 11:02 AM
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from your budget u should buy 200 lots of resort-ch and still maintain your exit point when resort touches RM2.50.. at least u get more quantity with the same budget...
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Feb 17 2009, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Feb 17 2009, 10:59 AM) Dear Cherroy, OK.I already take HUGE RISK by playing with SHARE MARGIN FINANCING. I better not take any additional risk!!!Now, i used up 350k worth of financing. Plan to max out 600k by end May 09. So better be cautious CW mostly for fun only after all. So play play little, no harm done. |
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Feb 17 2009, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(haksam @ Feb 17 2009, 11:02 AM) from your budget u should buy 200 lots of resort-ch and still maintain your exit point when resort touches RM2.50.. at least u get more quantity with the same budget... Resort CH expiry in 160 days la.. too risky.. i don't think can touch 2.50 by thenit's warrant play anyway~ haha |
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Feb 17 2009, 11:07 AM
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whoa.. 350k investment... dam lot of bullet u got
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Feb 17 2009, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(sampoo @ Feb 17 2009, 11:01 AM) wat is the interest per annum? 4.25% because BLR is 5.95 |
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Feb 17 2009, 11:09 AM
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Hi Neo,
Of course I know lar! For me, all my minimum purchase is 5K. You're bigger fish than me, so 500 lots should be the right amount! My current sell strategy is 20% profit margin. The reason is market still not picking up yet. So, go for small kill is enough. When I see sign of recovery, I'll hold my warrant until the mother share reach my selling target. PS: this is my strategy, not a recommendation to anyone! Just a suggestion! Pls don't flame me! QUOTE(Neo18 @ Feb 17 2009, 10:55 AM) 100 lot is RM1100 la. 50 lot is RM5500!!! althought i can afford, but since this is my first warrant. better be cautious... I don't really got an exit strategy yet.. how does selling when RESORT mothershare touch RM2.50 sound? good strategy? |
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Feb 17 2009, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Feb 17 2009, 12:08 PM) 4.25% because BLR is 5.95 mean u finance ur house. from real property to virtaul property..... it is risky.but, u need to be very much patient and hope the company u invest not close shop. any way it is also a good strategy for earlier retirement. This post has been edited by sampoo: Feb 17 2009, 11:12 AM |
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Feb 17 2009, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Feb 17 2009, 11:09 AM) Hi Neo, ok ok... good strategy..Of course I know lar! For me, all my minimum purchase is 5K. You're bigger fish than me, so 500 lots should be the right amount! My current sell strategy is 20% profit margin. The reason is market still not picking up yet. So, go for small kill is enough. When I see sign of recovery, I'll hold my warrant until the mother share reach my selling target. PS: this is my strategy, not a recommendation to anyone! Just a suggestion! Pls don't flame me! 20% profit margin is easy la.. mother share need to touch 2.35 already kau tim |
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Feb 17 2009, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Feb 17 2009, 11:08 AM) 4.25% because BLR is 5.95 Buy reit/dividend stock with 10% dividend, then you are getting 6% with bank money.350K mean you are getting/earning around 20K for pa, but with a high risk. Kinda salute your bravery and risk management part.  |
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Feb 17 2009, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Feb 17 2009, 11:04 AM) Resort CH expiry in 160 days la.. too risky.. i don't think can touch 2.50 by then Resorts CH & CI expiry in August.. still 6 months to go. Touch 2.40 also enuf edy. |
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Feb 17 2009, 11:16 AM
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that's what i think too!
5-6 months in equity world is just like 5-6 years~ i's holding 200 lots @ rm0.055 |
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Feb 17 2009, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 17 2009, 11:12 AM) Buy reit/dividend stock with 10% dividend, then you are getting 6% with bank money. actually, the correct calculation is like this...350K mean you are getting/earning around 20K for pa, but with a high risk. Kinda salute your bravery and risk management part. i got 400k stock collateral already fully paid.. with my collateral i can get 400k worht of credit... therefore, i already got 750k in the market (because i use 350k) 400k is in REIT, which is giving bout 9% nett dividend (because i bought some at high price too) Balance 350k, all in 70% high dividend stock , balance 30% growth stock... i want to REPEAT MY PERSONAL OPINION.. This opportunity only comes once in a lifetime. If u don't do anything bout it... then i think u deserve to remain poor..hahaha Well, if market goes down to 700 point, then i eat bread and drink plain water everyday lor..hahaha |
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Feb 17 2009, 11:23 AM
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This idea never cross my mind previously until neo told me. I personally think it is worth the risk (need to study the financial reports diligently). Need to find out more about Margin Financing before make any decision.
QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 17 2009, 11:12 AM) Buy reit/dividend stock with 10% dividend, then you are getting 6% with bank money. 350K mean you are getting/earning around 20K for pa, but with a high risk. Kinda salute your bravery and risk management part. |
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Feb 17 2009, 11:29 AM
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Anyone doing deep sea fishing today ?
Our Zelan's expert is missing for some days. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Feb 17 2009, 11:31 AM |
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Feb 17 2009, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Feb 17 2009, 12:19 PM) actually, the correct calculation is like this... i think the way u did last time, but it is only practice during the bull is start to run, becos u can quicky settle the loan, but it will expected only happen in 2012 when the big bull start again. i got 400k stock collateral already fully paid.. with my collateral i can get 400k worht of credit... therefore, i already got 750k in the market (because i use 350k) 400k is in REIT, which is giving bout 9% nett dividend (because i bought some at high price too) Balance 350k, all in 70% high dividend stock , balance 30% growth stock... i want to REPEAT MY PERSONAL OPINION.. This opportunity only comes once in a lifetime. If u don't do anything bout it... then i think u deserve to remain poor..hahaha Well, if market goes down to 700 point, then i eat bread and drink plain water everyday lor..hahaha ur timing is not right. This post has been edited by sampoo: Feb 17 2009, 11:42 AM |
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Feb 17 2009, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Feb 17 2009, 11:23 AM) This idea never cross my mind previously until neo told me. I personally think it is worth the risk (need to study the financial reports diligently). Need to find out more about Margin Financing before make any decision. Share Margin Financing is good, when u have cash and enuf collateral to support the Margin Facility. Say for example u have ample paid up stocks (note the bank will discount ur shares when the receive it as deposit say a 50% haircut for example), house, land and any tangible assets. Margin Facility are good because the bank actually finance ur purchase, if u know what ur doing 5% interest per annum lis very little compared to what ur about to gain. On the flip side of this... Close to 70% of bankruptcy arise out of margin facility, is margin facility good or bad u be the judge. ** I think Neo18 would be the right person to start of with a Share Margin Financing thread (not in the sense of promoting it, but as a knowledge based thread) I know bits and pieces of things to look out for in a share margin fainancing facility. or anyone else who wants to get the ball rolling on this can start the thred. This post has been edited by aurora97: Feb 17 2009, 11:45 AM |
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Feb 17 2009, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Feb 17 2009, 11:42 AM) Share Margin Financing is good, when u have cash and enuf collateral to support the Margin Facility. Say for example u have ample paid up stocks (note the bank will discount ur shares when the receive it as deposit say a 50% haircut for example), house, land and any tangible assets. Live rich, or die trying...Margin Facility are good because the bank actually finance ur purchase, if u know what ur doing 5% interest per annum lis very little compared to what ur about to gain. On the flip side of this... Close to 70% of bankruptcy arise out of margin facility, is margin facility good or bad u be the judge. ** I think Neo18 would be the right person to start of with a Share Margin Financing thread (not in the sense of promoting it, but as a knowledge based thread) I know bits and pieces of things to look out for in a share margin fainancing facility. or anyone else who wants to get the ball rolling on this can start the thred. Mmmm. |
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Feb 17 2009, 11:52 AM
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i should expect the rally last week is ended and the market will crash kaw kaw till end feb or earlier march for the small bull sign.
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Feb 17 2009, 11:54 AM
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wah this week my screen very very red.. I LIKE!
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Feb 17 2009, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(eltaria @ Feb 17 2009, 11:47 AM) Live rich, or die trying... problem is you dont want to the extent burden ur parents or friends or anyone around u... when a person is a bankrupt its like his hands and legs r taken away.Mmmm. I dont think i need to remind u all the horror stories people whom are on the brink of bankruptcy, it is when we are there we only realize how cruel this world is and at the mercy of the bank. for the time being we spend like there is no tomorrow! |
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Feb 17 2009, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(eltaria @ Feb 17 2009, 11:47 AM) Live rich, or die trying... yes, that is the right description for me!!! hahaha'Mmmm. |
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Feb 17 2009, 12:05 PM
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neo will not be rich in short term but i do believe he will eat abalone + shark fin + bird nest everyday when market up
i do admire his guts to play this kind of approach where you c the opportunity u must grab it no matter what it needs takes but i dont hv it guts like him what ever you do there is a risk depends on how to minimize it like neo .. putting in high div counters to reduce his risk e.g |
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Feb 17 2009, 12:14 PM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Feb 17 2009, 12:05 PM) neo will not be rich in short term but i do believe he will eat abalone + shark fin + bird nest everyday when market up wah mo meng, i do admire his guts to play this kind of approach where you c the opportunity u must grab it no matter what it needs takes but i dont hv it guts like him what ever you do there is a risk depends on how to minimize it like neo .. putting in high div counters to reduce his risk e.g don't praise me too high ok? i paiseh la.. we are here to learn and to share information. Also, i want everyone in this FORUM TO HUAT ARR!!! Tee Kong Por Pee all of u make big money from stock market!!! keep on sharing info!!! i have also plan my exit strategy... as at today 900 point, PE base on 2009 earning is 13x against 16.6x for the past 9 years earning. Therefore, it is trading at a discount of 20% base on historical average Therefore, my exit strategy for 20% of my portfolio is 900 x 1.2 = 1080 therefore, i will sell when KLCI reach 1080 |
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Feb 17 2009, 12:15 PM
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Hmm.. CI broke below 900 already.
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Feb 17 2009, 12:23 PM
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regional market all red :|
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QUOTE We're waiting for the DOW tonight. Any ideas on how the dow will perform? It's already broken its last support, today will be crucial if dow can climb back up to 7900+ levels. failing which, bursa will nosedive tomorrow? KUALA LUMPUR (Dow Jones)--Malaysian carmaker Proton Holdings Bhd. (5304.KU) is planning a monthly production of 3,000-3,500 units of its new Ezora multi-purpose vehicle, or MPV, starting from March, Bernama news agency reported Tuesday. "We already started the preliminary production and the full production will start next month leading to launch in April," Proton's managing director Syed Zainal Abidin Syed Mohamed Tahir was quoted as saying. The company has invested some MYR450 million to produce the Ezora, including MYR60 million to MYR70 million to modify its plant in Shah Alam, he added. The Ezora is priced below MYR80,000 per unit. |
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Feb 17 2009, 12:51 PM
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Drop but low volume....
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Feb 17 2009, 01:21 PM
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Went to cherating on weekend.. saw some village ppl fish netting there and caught some small fish. Got puffer fish oso.
Lowyat888 post this yesterday. Look to sell into this bear market rally http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...alad16/Article/[/url] Nowdays most profit from swing trade.. cant hold long. profit not much coz timing exit normally too fast. US futures looks bad -100++.. My Jupiter remiser recommend buy on Gamuda.. at 1.89 - 1.90. More on TA call.. decide buy on own risk o... QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 17 2009, 11:29 AM) Anyone doing deep sea fishing today ? This post has been edited by viper88: Feb 17 2009, 01:50 PMOur Zelan's expert is missing for some days. |
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Feb 17 2009, 01:24 PM
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maybe big block player wait for the time to chiong .
all holding now ... and ready lu just my 2cent |
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Feb 17 2009, 01:33 PM
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Hi stock experts,
Wat caused LCL sahre price drop very much? Is that now good time to have some... Thanks in advance.. |
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Feb 17 2009, 02:23 PM
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wow.... HARTA go go go....................
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Feb 17 2009, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Feb 17 2009, 12:05 PM) neo will not be rich in short term but i do believe he will eat abalone + shark fin + bird nest everyday when market up wah look like neo18 bravery in high risk investment in stock got so much salute and focuses here, for me, u investment strategy is based on ur own please do not try any margin financing in such market unless u r rich player n experience like neo else u may burn yourself in stock marketi do admire his guts to play this kind of approach where you c the opportunity u must grab it no matter what it needs takes but i dont hv it guts like him what ever you do there is a risk depends on how to minimize it like neo .. putting in high div counters to reduce his risk e.g |
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Feb 17 2009, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(viper88 @ Feb 17 2009, 01:21 PM) My Jupiter remiser recommend buy on Gamuda.. at 1.89 - 1.90. More on TA call.. decide buy on own risk o... Gamuda has cheong-ed from 1.91 to 2.08 on last week.strong resistance level to break 2.10. according to stocktube guy, if 2.10 level breach, the next resistance level would be 2.60. I've bought some for glc play at 2.03. meant for short term. |
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Feb 17 2009, 02:48 PM
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DJ is at crossroad now, if it doesn't rebound from the 79xx level, and breach its support line convincingly, we might have fresh phase/round of downturn worldwide for equities market.
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Feb 17 2009, 02:52 PM
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wow that's dangerous.
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Feb 17 2009, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 17 2009, 02:48 PM) DJ is at crossroad now, if it doesn't rebound from the 79xx level, and breach its support line convincingly, we might have fresh phase/round of downturn worldwide for equities market. i expect S&P to reach 750 this 2 weeks |
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Feb 17 2009, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 17 2009, 02:52 PM) wow that's dangerous.  that is exciting !!! |
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Feb 17 2009, 03:42 PM
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bought resort @ 2.24
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Feb 17 2009, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Feb 17 2009, 03:42 PM) bought resort @ 2.24 Until Astro solves it Indonesia operation issue, the upside of it is rather limited. bought astro @ 2.03 The indonesia operation is leaking the company money at the moment. |
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Feb 17 2009, 03:50 PM
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now F.E.A.R factor in the market
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Feb 17 2009, 03:50 PM
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extremely dangerous, US auto sector in trouble. Market going south in these few days to come.
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Feb 17 2009, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 17 2009, 03:48 PM) Until Astro solves it Indonesia operation issue, the upside of it is rather limited. ya i know, Astro is for long termThe indonesia operation is leaking the company money at the moment. |
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Feb 17 2009, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Feb 17 2009, 04:42 PM) bought resort @ 2.24 u will get a very good discount by next week. bought astro @ 2.03 |
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Feb 17 2009, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Feb 17 2009, 03:42 PM) bought resort @ 2.24 wow, Neo, you really have many bullets and other ammunition to spare! bought astro @ 2.03 But am just wondering, isn't it more capital preserving if you do not scatter your counters, instead focus on few good ones? Or maybe you might be jumping into the bandwagon too quickly? Coz , my opinion is market is quite erratic these days. For me, I'm still afraid to commit much. |
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Feb 17 2009, 04:10 PM
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US future doesn't look good ATM.....
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Feb 17 2009, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Feb 17 2009, 03:42 PM) bought resort @ 2.24 abit on the upside i would say resort, looking at pattern it has been hovering over 2.24 so i would still consider as safe but judging from Neo big chunky facility shud be room to avrg down in any event. It him against the market forces now.bought astro @ 2.03 QUOTE(sampoo @ Feb 17 2009, 03:59 PM) u will get a very good discount by next week. hard to say maybe he got insider newsleh ?QUOTE(sharesa @ Feb 17 2009, 04:07 PM) wow, Neo, you really have many bullets and other ammunition to spare! get rich or die trying.... But am just wondering, isn't it more capital preserving if you do not scatter your counters, instead focus on few good ones? Or maybe you might be jumping into the bandwagon too quickly? Coz , my opinion is market is quite erratic these days. For me, I'm still afraid to commit much. |
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Feb 17 2009, 04:17 PM
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get rich or die trying.. nice statement lol..
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Feb 17 2009, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE(shoduken @ Feb 17 2009, 05:17 PM) get rich or die trying.. nice statement lol.. how about at middle,.... suffering. |
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Feb 17 2009, 04:22 PM
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finally a bloody tuesday what i have been looking forward to see... I have consolidated all my shares into cash just for this moment, see u guys in the battle field soon.
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Feb 17 2009, 04:25 PM
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I only play with my own cash. Playing margin is very risky.
Invest/trade within own means. QUOTE(aoisky @ Feb 17 2009, 02:45 PM) wah look like neo18 bravery in high risk investment in stock got so much salute and focuses here, for me, u investment strategy is based on ur own please do not try any margin financing in such market unless u r rich player n experience like neo else u may burn yourself in stock market |
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Feb 17 2009, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Feb 17 2009, 05:22 PM) finally a bloody tuesday what i have been looking forward to see... I have consolidated all my shares into cash just for this moment, see u guys in the battle field soon. yes cash is king now .... really. but, if u hv stron financial standing, not need sell ur share lah, wait for another few years or at least till end of tis march. This post has been edited by sampoo: Feb 17 2009, 04:29 PM |
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Feb 17 2009, 04:31 PM
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today smells blood. i dun dare to see tomolo jor....!
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Feb 17 2009, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(viper88 @ Feb 17 2009, 04:25 PM) I only play with my own cash. Playing margin is very risky. I agree. If we play margin, we need to pay monthly interest for the borrowed money, on top of that, when share prices drop down to a certain target, you have to top up the difference of the price by cash.Invest/trade within own means. If unable to, then have to sell the shares that you are holding . |
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Feb 17 2009, 04:36 PM
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RAM finally break support
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Feb 17 2009, 04:36 PM
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it's raining now...all looks dark n gloomy now.......
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Feb 17 2009, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Feb 17 2009, 04:36 PM) it's raining now...all looks dark n gloomy now....... you means shares dark & gloomy or the weather?You are in KL I guess, there's thunder rumbling with dark clouds. |
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Feb 17 2009, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Feb 17 2009, 03:54 PM) ya i know, Astro is for long term No, my previous statement doesn't mean that it is good for long term either.Until it sort out its overseas operation, it is not suit to long term which has no sign until now. Only Malaysia operation is earning them profit, others are leaking money, which is not good for the shareholders. By no mean, Astro longer future is proven to be good especially in overseas whereby competition is intense unlike in Malaysia, Astro is monopolised business which gov has signed with them, no other statelite TV broadcaster is allowed until 201x (forget what year liao) Just my opinion though. |
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Feb 17 2009, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Feb 17 2009, 04:33 PM) I agree. If we play margin, we need to pay monthly interest for the borrowed money, on top of that, when share prices drop down to a certain target, you have to top up the difference of the price by cash. like i said earlier, 5% interest per annum... basically the interest is so low the bank is putting money in investors pockets to invest in the market... furthermore (the assumption is) the market can easily give u returns more than 10% provided ur a skillful invstor.If unable to, then have to sell the shares that you are holding . nevertheless the outcome is uncertain yes, we may say margin facility is the devil etc... but it could potential enable him to profit 100 fold compared to an investor whom relies on his own pool of cash and Vice versa. |
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Feb 17 2009, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 17 2009, 04:40 PM) No, my previous statement doesn't mean that it is good for long term either. thanks.. Until it sort out its overseas operation, it is not suit to long term which has no sign until now. Only Malaysia operation is earning them profit, others are leaking money, which is not good for the shareholders. By no mean, Astro longer future is proven to be good especially in overseas whereby competition is intense unlike in Malaysia, Astro is monopolised business which gov has signed with them, no other statelite TV broadcaster is allowed until 201x (forget what year liao) Just my opinion though. i've gone thru various analsis by McQuerie/Maybank investment/ICap. I fully understand the downside, as well as up side. Also, i notice very strong support @ RM2... anyway, go down buy somemore lor..hahaha this next 4 month is buying period This post has been edited by Neo18: Feb 17 2009, 05:24 PM |
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Feb 17 2009, 05:28 PM
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i chicken out, throw my Gamuda at a slight loss. reserving cash.
if tomolo Gamuda cheong, nasib la. looking out for some some cheap vege on tomolo, aiming at Maybulk & Carlsberg particularly. steady counter ngam me more. |
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Feb 17 2009, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 17 2009, 05:28 PM) i chicken out, throw my Gamuda at a slight loss. reserving cash. stable counter, u should look at TMif tomolo Gamuda cheong, nasib la. looking out for some some cheap vege on tomolo, aiming at Maybulk & Carlsberg particularly. steady counter ngam me more. |
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Feb 17 2009, 06:33 PM
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Me Jupiter remiser said watch Gamuda price.. if fall to 1.89-1.90 can grab some.
March stimulus plan will give good boost in contruction sector and Gamuda is tipped to gain from it. Zelan oso stand good chance to rise if theres positive news on construction sector. I sold off some of my Zelan stock.. made only peanuts.. Still have alot in hand.. average price 0.80. QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 17 2009, 05:28 PM) i chicken out, throw my Gamuda at a slight loss. reserving cash. This post has been edited by viper88: Feb 17 2009, 07:01 PMif tomolo Gamuda cheong, nasib la. looking out for some some cheap vege on tomolo, aiming at Maybulk & Carlsberg particularly. steady counter ngam me more. |
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Feb 17 2009, 07:05 PM
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Feb 17 2009, 05:20 PM) like i said earlier, 5% interest per annum... basically the interest is so low the bank is putting money in investors pockets to invest in the market... furthermore (the assumption is) the market can easily give u returns more than 10% provided ur a skillful invstor. 5% interest is already a lot.nevertheless the outcome is uncertain yes, we may say margin facility is the devil etc... but it could potential enable him to profit 100 fold compared to an investor whom relies on his own pool of cash and Vice versa. If someone wants to make a substantial profit (can be loss), at least have to borrow a large sum of money, say $500,000 . (To have this facility, you need at least $160,000 of your own asset as collateral) 500,000 x 5% /annum = $25,000/year. If bear market like this carry on for months or years, servicing the interest alone can erode whatever dividends received and his own capital. On top of that, as mentioned earlier is the capital top-up, if necessary. Even if someone's risk appetite is lower, $50,000 x 5%/annum = $$2,500/year Still, interest only is $208/month Most of the time, bank is winner and clients are losers. My opinion is margin play will do better when market is bullish. This post has been edited by sharesa: Feb 17 2009, 07:35 PM |
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Feb 17 2009, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Feb 17 2009, 07:05 PM) 5% interest is already a lot. I agree with that. Leveraging your money during a bear market is like leveraging your losses. The risk is just too high, not worth it. If someone wants to make a substantial profit (can be loss), at least have to borrow a large sum of money, say $500,000 . (To have this facility, you need at least $160,000 of your own asset as collateral) 500,000 x 5% /annum = $25,000/year. If bear market like this carry on for months or years, servicing the interest alone can erode whatever dividends received and his own capital. On top of that, as mentioned earlier is the capital top-up, if necessary. Even if someone's risk appetite is lower, $50,000 x 5%/annum = $$2,500/year Still, interest only is $208/month Most of the time, bank is winner and clients are losers. My opinion is margin play will do good when market is bullish. |
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Feb 17 2009, 08:06 PM
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Hah! Only now does our gomen realize how grim the situation is.....
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.p...ic-najib-admits |
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Feb 17 2009, 08:09 PM
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Feb 17 2009, 11:19 AM) actually, the correct calculation is like this... Unless REIT continue to give you very high return and the high dividend stocks continue to give you expected yield and economy will break from recession soon. Else what you did is like playing with fire. Anyway, I salute you for the courage and your positive outlook on KLSE and the current economy situation. For me, I'll continue to balance out my cash:equities.i got 400k stock collateral already fully paid.. with my collateral i can get 400k worht of credit... therefore, i already got 750k in the market (because i use 350k) 400k is in REIT, which is giving bout 9% nett dividend (because i bought some at high price too) Balance 350k, all in 70% high dividend stock , balance 30% growth stock... i want to REPEAT MY PERSONAL OPINION.. This opportunity only comes once in a lifetime. If u don't do anything bout it... then i think u deserve to remain poor..hahaha Well, if market goes down to 700 point, then i eat bread and drink plain water everyday lor..hahaha Added on February 17, 2009, 8:11 pm QUOTE(kmarc @ Feb 17 2009, 08:06 PM) Hah! Only now does our gomen realize how grim the situation is..... The problem with our gomen is they takes time or are ignorance of the current situation, thus they did not come out with good stimulus plan to counter it in phase 1. I expect phase 2 stimulus will be more or less the same, which will not stir the economy. http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.p...ic-najib-admits This post has been edited by jasontoh: Feb 17 2009, 08:11 PM |
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Feb 17 2009, 08:45 PM
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3 months later, gov will admit recession no longer can be avoid
Hopefully that won't happen.... Is it possible Bank Negara decide cut to interest in coming months? This post has been edited by Junior83: Feb 17 2009, 08:46 PM |
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Feb 17 2009, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE(Junior83 @ Feb 17 2009, 08:45 PM) 3 months later, gov will admit recession no longer can be avoid Cut interest rate won't help that much. People still prefer to keep money in the bank regardless of the interrest rate. Hopefully that won't happen.... Is it possible Bank Negara decide cut to interest in coming months? |
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Feb 17 2009, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Feb 17 2009, 08:52 PM) Cut interest rate won't help that much. People still prefer to keep money in the bank regardless of the interrest rate. No, is to reduce the burden of SME finance and spur the consumer spending. |
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Feb 17 2009, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(Junior83 @ Feb 17 2009, 08:57 PM) No, is to reduce the burden of SME finance and spur the consumer spending. But it still can't boost up consumer spending. For example, if you have a house loan and you only save about RM100 due to the interest rate cut. But do you think consumer will use that RM100 to spend on other thing ? |
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Feb 17 2009, 10:34 PM
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Hopefully there is be rally at USA after Obama sign the Stimulus Plan
. I lost too much blood for 2 days already |
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Feb 17 2009, 10:46 PM
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Dow : -210.59
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Feb 17 2009, 10:48 PM
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Feb 17 2009, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Feb 17 2009, 10:48 PM) i just finished reading the star newspaper, read about this article too.i did monitor this counter these few days, its share has been plunged since the recent peak isn't. this piece of news is today's news, but it doesnt stimulate the price to jump. maybe as per the newspaper claimed, can get some before end of next month, buy on rumour, sell on news. |
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Feb 17 2009, 11:34 PM
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Look like we are going to do a lot shopping tomorrow with cheap prices since DOW is bleeding too.
Looks like company related with Timber have good chances to go up http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...08&sec=business Hope that Evermas kena goreng!! This post has been edited by edwin32us: Feb 17 2009, 11:36 PM |
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Feb 17 2009, 11:50 PM
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Dow is like 40 pts away from the lowest closing in november!!!
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Feb 17 2009, 11:57 PM
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It's down 200 points now:
7,625.32 -225.09 -2.87% |
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Feb 18 2009, 12:07 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 17 2009, 02:52 PM) wow that's dangerous. Coming Friday is the third week of the month option expiring and also with the poor Empire State Manufacturing Index -34.7 vs forecast -23. Wait for test $DJI 7500. Money now flow to precious metal gold, silver, copper. |
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Feb 18 2009, 12:15 AM
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Looking at current condition, its not impossible for DJIA to drop below 5000pts. Its a economic plague now. The next level of bad news may be credit card default rate. As ppl had a hard time to pay off their homeloan, credit card would be the only option left.
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Feb 18 2009, 12:37 AM
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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Feb 18 2009, 12:15 AM) Looking at current condition, its not impossible for DJIA to drop below 5000pts. Its a economic plague now. The next level of bad news may be credit card default rate. As ppl had a hard time to pay off their homeloan, credit card would be the only option left. Both the US and UK govt have deflation problem now, BOE and FED already in the money printing mode (buy govt bond). They may not want to see equtities market free fall and the market is indecisived. The good news is both Baltic Dried Index and copper future are moving up. |
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Feb 18 2009, 01:32 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 17 2009, 05:28 PM) i chicken out, throw my Gamuda at a slight loss. reserving cash. i can assure you, you have made the correct decision if tomolo Gamuda cheong, nasib la. QUOTE(edwin32us @ Feb 17 2009, 10:34 PM) Hopefully there is be rally at USA after Obama sign the Stimulus Plan i dun understand how people could summarise "Stimulus Plan = market up". Every stimulus plan will need time for market to study whether it is sufficient enough or not. Stimulus plan doesnt mean the US will throw USD787million straight away into the economy. It is just a plan on how to address the issue.. I lost too much blood for 2 days alreadyQUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 17 2009, 11:25 PM) i just finished reading the star newspaper, read about this article too. If you listen to those so-called analysts of The Star, then you deserved to get your hands burnt. Look at the company's balance sheet first. Then look at the profit & loss reports. Green Packet announced to Bursa yesterday a net loss of RM38.66mil on revenue of RM25.47mil for the fourth quarter ended Dec 31, 2008 compared with a net profit of RM231,000 on revenue of RM26.46mil in the previous corresponding period. Green Packet also posted an annual net loss of RM59.48mil on revenue of RM88.43mil for the last financial year..i did monitor this counter these few days, its share has been plunged since the recent peak isn't. this piece of news is today's news, but it doesnt stimulate the price to jump. maybe as per the newspaper claimed, can get some before end of next month, buy on rumour, sell on news. QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Feb 18 2009, 12:15 AM) Looking at current condition, its not impossible for DJIA to drop below 5000pts. Its a economic plague now. The next level of bad news may be credit card default rate. As ppl had a hard time to pay off their homeloan, credit card would be the only option left. Frankly speaking, i dun think the DJIA will go as low as 5000. It will or it might breach the 6500 level, the hardest question here is - how long will it remains in the doldrums. |
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Feb 18 2009, 06:51 AM
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QUOTE(David83 @ Feb 17 2009, 11:57 PM) It's down 200 points now: -297.881 now. Not sure how about KLSE today ? 7,625.32 -225.09 -2.87% |
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Feb 18 2009, 06:53 AM
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DJIA closed with nearly 300 points:
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Feb 18 2009, 07:16 AM
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I think today is a good time to buy.
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Feb 18 2009, 07:22 AM
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Feb 17 2009, 12:14 PM) wah mo meng, Haha digging a hole.. digging a hole ....don't praise me too high ok? i paiseh la.. we are here to learn and to share information. Also, i want everyone in this FORUM TO HUAT ARR!!! Tee Kong Por Pee all of u make big money from stock market!!! keep on sharing info!!! i have also plan my exit strategy... as at today 900 point, PE base on 2009 earning is 13x against 16.6x for the past 9 years earning. Therefore, it is trading at a discount of 20% base on historical average Therefore, my exit strategy for 20% of my portfolio is 900 x 1.2 = 1080 therefore, i will sell when KLCI reach 1080 never borrow money to trade shares or your so called invest in shares... good luck and happy digging a hole.... |
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Feb 18 2009, 07:24 AM
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Today gonna be bloody red sea in KLSE, or someone might goto unplug the BURSA network cable
Crude oil: $34.93 - 6.88% Cheaper petrol? This post has been edited by Junior83: Feb 18 2009, 07:30 AM |
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Feb 18 2009, 08:45 AM
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will this be the last wave of downtrend
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Feb 18 2009, 08:52 AM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Feb 18 2009, 09:45 AM) will this be the last wave of downtrend no, there will be another wave in coming may suppose, but not sure this will be the lowest points it will crash to ... but, i will expect it only drop back to the level before last friday rally. this few days may trade at 870 +/- This post has been edited by sampoo: Feb 18 2009, 08:58 AM |
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Feb 18 2009, 08:53 AM
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QUOTE(Junior83 @ Feb 18 2009, 07:24 AM) Today gonna be bloody red sea in KLSE, or someone might goto unplug the BURSA network cable Minister said the price is not stable. Possible pump price won't be lower than current RM 1.80 per litre.Crude oil: $34.93 - 6.88% Cheaper petrol? |
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Feb 18 2009, 08:55 AM
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i think so too..... if oni the CO price falls below $30 per barrel for a long time, else i dun c our G is gonna reduce the petrol price.....
few mins away b4 KLSE get slaughtered? This post has been edited by fergie1100: Feb 18 2009, 08:56 AM |
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Feb 18 2009, 09:08 AM
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walao market still can sustain, so everyone is hope there will be small bull on march.
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Feb 18 2009, 09:09 AM
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QUOTE(sampoo @ Feb 18 2009, 09:08 AM) walao market still can sustain, so everyone is hope there will be small bull on march. either sustain or ppl not yet wake up |
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Feb 18 2009, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE(sampoo @ Feb 18 2009, 09:08 AM) walao market still can sustain, so everyone is hope there will be small bull on march. Japan & Hong Kong is bleeding now...... can KLSE sustain? |
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Feb 18 2009, 09:12 AM
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If want to make quick money (buy and sell on the same day), which counter we should go ? Any recommendation ?
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Feb 18 2009, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Feb 18 2009, 10:12 AM) If want to make quick money (buy and sell on the same day), which counter we should go ? Any recommendation ? yes, it should be safer compare to buy toto. ppl nowaday look like very mutual, not so emotional. this is good sign toward developed nation. This post has been edited by sampoo: Feb 18 2009, 09:19 AM |
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Feb 18 2009, 09:19 AM
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KLK/BKawan ex-date was yesterday, no wonder price was readjusted.
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Feb 18 2009, 09:19 AM
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Hmm... KLSE is not dropping much... thought gonna be panic selling in d morning
Possible sustain by the coming "mini" budget in Mar |
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Feb 18 2009, 09:19 AM
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GENTING on red alert !!! testing the lowest point now
Added on February 18, 2009, 9:21 am QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 18 2009, 09:19 AM) KLK/BKawan ex-date was yesterday, no wonder price was readjusted. sodesuka? then some 1 already had $$ in the pocket huh? still, it is lower than my cost  This post has been edited by fergie1100: Feb 18 2009, 09:21 AM |
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Feb 18 2009, 09:22 AM
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Feb 18 2009, 09:19 AM) GENTING on red alert !!! testing the lowest point now Genting ar..where got.... dun care la.. buy for long term holding one Added on February 18, 2009, 9:21 am sodesuka? then some 1 already had $$ in the pocket huh? |
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Feb 18 2009, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(Junior83 @ Feb 18 2009, 09:22 AM) Genting ar..where got.... dun care la.. buy for long term holding one i'm still holding 2 lots at higher price! |
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Feb 18 2009, 09:28 AM
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Petroch-CA.. good buy? Low price currently.
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Feb 18 2009, 09:28 AM
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Surprisingly our mart very resilient...
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Feb 18 2009, 09:33 AM
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The resilient effect shows that the ratio of FF in KLSE is not that significant anymore, most of them ady dump the share last year
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Feb 18 2009, 09:35 AM
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QUOTE(Junior83 @ Feb 18 2009, 09:33 AM) The resilient effect shows that the ratio of FF in KLSE is not that significant anymore, most of them ady dump the share last year That means, they can only comeback when the time comes and we dont have to worry bout huge or heavy sellings which usually done by FF...  |
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Feb 18 2009, 09:35 AM
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Wow genting testing its support at 3.58 again.. if this breaks, no one will know the bottom for today...
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Feb 18 2009, 09:38 AM
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From CNN
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- China and Japan will stop lending to the United States! The U.S. government won't be able to finance its stimulus and bailout programs! Those are the concerns that some analysts and investors have voiced over the past few months, as the government unveiled trillions of dollars in economic recovery and financial market liquidity programs and said they will ramp up their Treasury bond issuance to pay for it. But those worries may be overblown. "If you can't buy Treasurys, what can you buy?" said Michael Cheah, bond fund manager at AIG SunAmerica. "For the foreseeable future, to the extent that there is no alternative, big holders like Japan and China will continue to buy up U.S. Treasurys." A report on foreign purchases of Treasurys Tuesday eased concerns that overseas investors would stop buying U.S. debt. According to the Treasury International Capital (TIC) report released Tuesday, net foreign purchases of long-term Treasurys were $15 billion in December. The report relieved many investors' worries about the TIC data, which showed foreign investors had sold a net $25.8 billion of Treasurys in November. China continued to lead all foreign nations, buying up an additional $14.3 billion of Treasurys in December. Japan, the second largest U.S. debt holder, bought up another $800 million of U.S. government bonds. Though one month of data does not indicate a trend, analysts said they believe that the U.S. will continue to attract foreign investors, especially from Asia. "The Chinese are locked into buying Treasurys," said Cheah. "It's not in their interest to do otherwise - it would kill their exporters and only make things worse." Furthermore, droves of weak economic data from around the globe continue to hammer financial markets. With stocks floundering and commodity prices in flux, U.S. government debt has remained relatively attractive. Treasury successfully completed a record $67 billion quarterly refunding last week, including the sale of 3-, 10- and 30-year bonds, attracting more than enough investors to fund the debt offerings. As a result, investors' fears that the government will have difficulty making up for its escalating budget shortfall have eased somewhat. The 10-year Treasury yield, which hit 3% for the first time since November on Feb. 6, fell below 2.7% on Tuesday, indicating an influx of bond investors over the past week and a half. Yields and prices move in opposite direction. Still, with $787 billion it will owe for stimulus, $700 billion for the bank bailout and trillions more in liquidity programs, the Treasury expects to issue between $2.7 trillion - $4.2 trillion of debt over the next two years. Not all are convinced that investors will continue to demand Treasurys when interest rates are again falling close to uncharted territory. "The fear of trade is still on, and buyers can't find a better alternative elsewhere," said Kenneth Naehu, managing director at Bel Air Investment Advisors. "But the jury is still out whether the United States' ability to finance at low rates will continue to hold true, assuming the fear of trade tapers off." Bond prices: U.S. bond markets were closed on Monday for the President's Day holiday. On Tuesday, the price of the 10-year note rose 1-28/32 to 100-22/32 and its yield fell to 2.67%, down from 2.90% from late Friday. Bond prices and yields move in opposite directions. The 30-year bond rose 3-9/32 to 100-2/32, and yielded 3.49%, down from 3.69%. The 2-year note edged up 6/32 to 100-1/32 and its yield fell to 0.88% from 0.97%. The yield on the 3-month note was unchanged at 0.30%. Demand for the shorter-term note is seen as a gauge for investor confidence. Lending rates: Bank-to-bank lending rates were little changed. The 3-month Libor rate was 1.25% Tuesday, up from 1.24% Friday, according to data on Bloomberg.com. The overnight Libor rate, meanwhile, rose to 0.31% from 0.30%. Libor, the London Interbank Offered Rate, is a daily average of rates that 16 different banks charge each other to lend money in London. Two credit market gauges were showing a decrease in confidence in the lending markets. The "TED" spread widened to 0.95 percentage point from 0.94 percentage point on Friday. The bigger the TED spread, the less willing investors are to take risks. Another market indicator, the Libor-OIS spread, increased to 0.98 percentage point from 0.97 percentage point the previous day. The wider the spread, the less cash is available for lending. First Published: February 17, 2009: 11:01 AM ET |
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Feb 18 2009, 09:42 AM
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why is KNM having strong buy..any gud news
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Feb 18 2009, 09:45 AM
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Whoa.. Resorts finally green..
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Feb 18 2009, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(dilla @ Feb 18 2009, 09:42 AM) why is KNM having strong buy..any gud news KNM purely goreng.... from FA perspective.... dun touch it at all cost |
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Feb 18 2009, 10:10 AM
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i notice some stocks are green green ........... ci may b green when closing.......
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Feb 18 2009, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE(Junior83 @ Feb 18 2009, 09:58 AM) KNM purely goreng.... from FA perspective.... dun touch it at all cost \TQ for yr advice |
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Feb 18 2009, 10:21 AM
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I hope CI only turn red next week. Then I can start my shopping spree in early March!
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Feb 18 2009, 11:24 AM
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wow.. today really is like the new year season listing.. All red packet swamp the listing.
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Feb 18 2009, 11:56 AM
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LCL flying south today
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Feb 18 2009, 11:58 AM
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everything seem to be going back to what 2 weeks ago.. lol..
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Feb 18 2009, 12:06 PM
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i felt somthing wrong with asiabio, it could be a next goreng stock.
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Feb 18 2009, 12:45 PM
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Lionind seems attractive for swing trade.. any1 grab today?
Reecent high about 0.68 - 0.79++ US futures up.. seems there will be a technical rebound tonight. |
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Feb 18 2009, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE(PBB boleh @ Feb 18 2009, 11:56 AM) LCL flying south today LCL all the while not doing well. You should know their bad news over the world. Who can bail out LCL ? |
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Feb 18 2009, 01:27 PM
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This quarter's quarterly result generally still not out, slow compare to last few quarter... why?
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Feb 18 2009, 01:52 PM
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When KLK write down the value of its stake in Yule, where did the money goes to actually? How r they going to reduce the book value? |
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Feb 18 2009, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Feb 18 2009, 01:52 PM) KLK Where did the money goes to? When KLK write down the value of its stake in Yule, where did the money goes to actually? How r they going to reduce the book value? Gone lor. It is just like you bought a car at 100K, then after that market value is 70K only, then 30K gone as loss. |
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Feb 18 2009, 02:27 PM
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technical rebound coming tonight ?? Djia futures +53.. Crossing my finger hoping it will hav technical rebound
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Feb 18 2009, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE(vexus @ Feb 18 2009, 01:18 PM) LCL all the while not doing well. You should know their bad news over the world. Who can bail out LCL ? LCL , purely goreng only, so far I have done a few peanuts goreng for around 10% each. Straightly fast in fast out only |
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Feb 18 2009, 02:48 PM
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Come on Proton. Do it.. fly up more.
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Feb 18 2009, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 18 2009, 01:55 PM) Where did the money goes to? i see... evaporated into the air huh? Gone lor. It is just like you bought a car at 100K, then after that market value is 70K only, then 30K gone as loss. btw cherroy, going to grab KLK again?..... today seems like bleed a lot partly caused by this? "The impairment might wipe out as much as 25 per cent of the Malaysian company’s projected full-year profit, according to the report" Added on February 18, 2009, 2:53 pm QUOTE(htt @ Feb 18 2009, 01:27 PM) This quarter's quarterly result generally still not out, slow compare to last few quarter... why? the due date is next week anyway.... be patient.... give them some time to make their report "nicer" This post has been edited by fergie1100: Feb 18 2009, 02:56 PM |
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Feb 18 2009, 07:16 AM) I think today is a good time to buy. But who knows when is the real bottom of the stocks. |
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Feb 18 2009, 03:06 PM
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see ci is turn green soon, ppl all is try to grab the stock whose sold yesterday. at the end they still come back. becos of they themself also dun no when is the bottom and they try to earn fast $$, if they can, but looser is more then gainer.
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Feb 18 2009, 03:19 PM
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wow LCL back on liao haha
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Feb 18 2009, 03:21 PM
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behold the power of goreng, from -4% to + 2% now.
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Feb 18 2009, 03:26 PM
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Our share market slowly are turning green atm
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Feb 18 2009, 03:39 PM
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today's trade volume quite low
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Feb 18 2009, 04:04 PM
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really the market can tahan but since dow drop nearly 300 points. no effect. just wondering for how long it can tahan. if DOW drop another few hundred points see how.
wondering how many stimulates plan/packages the govt can bring out in the near future. As Yap Cheng Hai (grandmaster of fengshui) say/predicted in June the govt/company will have depleted all the cash flow they have in no time. HIT AND RUN MARKET. IT JUST LIKE GAMBLING TOA SAN(GOD GAMBLER) in casino OR KU SAN (GOD OF STOCK MARKET) gambling in stock market for now. |
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Feb 18 2009, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Feb 18 2009, 02:52 PM) i see... evaporated into the air huh? Evaporising in the thin air btw cherroy, going to grab KLK again?..... today seems like bleed a lot partly caused by this? "The impairment might wipe out as much as 25 per cent of the Malaysian company’s projected full-year profit, according to the report" Added on February 18, 2009, 2:53 pm the due date is next week anyway.... be patient.... give them some time to make their report "nicer"  May be 8.xx ~ 9.00 will consider as it is ex-dividend now. Except for local fund supporting the big blue chips and plantation stocks, I don't see why they need or should or can rally all the way, considered all commodities price still under correction phase. Btw, Shell announced 30 cents dividend yesterday, full year 50 cents, better than FD. Not mean to recommend anything. Added on February 18, 2009, 4:31 pm QUOTE(lowyat888 @ Feb 18 2009, 04:04 PM) really the market can tahan but since dow drop nearly 300 points. no effect. just wondering for how long it can tahan. if DOW drop another few hundred points see how. Now it is more about individual company strength and problem already. Those strong fundamental one probably can withstand the market drop. But those company facing problem especially cashflow one, even market rally, they won't be performing too good either. This post has been edited by cherroy: Feb 18 2009, 04:31 PM |
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Feb 18 2009, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 18 2009, 04:28 PM) Evaporising in the thin air  Oh ya, 4got bout the Ex-date yesterday (55 cents)  May be 8.xx ~ 9.00 will consider as it is ex-dividend now. Except for local fund supporting the big blue chips and plantation stocks, I don't see why they need or should or can rally all the way, considered all commodities price still under correction phase. Btw, Shell announced 30 cents dividend yesterday, full year 50 cents, better than FD. Not mean to recommend anything. Final div from Shell? didn't see the announcement from the paper, how can i miss that? (Been looking at the div counters recently) tnx for sharing was wondering, apart from the REITS, which are the top 10 most div yield counters last year? This post has been edited by fergie1100: Feb 18 2009, 04:48 PM |
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Feb 18 2009, 04:52 PM
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Out of my head, Guinness should be very consistent?
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Feb 18 2009, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Feb 18 2009, 04:47 PM) Oh ya, 4got bout the Ex-date yesterday (55 cents) Without any reference. I can instantly point out several that with constantly good dividend (only list some that got monitor, there may be some missing out) Final div from Shell? didn't see the announcement from the paper, how can i miss that? (Been looking at the div counters recently) tnx for sharing was wondering, apart from the REITS, which are the top 10 most div yield counters last year? BAT Digi Guiness Jtinter Panamy Tanjong |
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Feb 18 2009, 04:59 PM
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Feb 18 2009, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 18 2009, 04:56 PM) Without any reference. I can instantly point out several that with constantly good dividend (only list some that got monitor, there may be some missing out) ei ...y u din list out our PBBANK ar....dowan fren u liao heheheheBAT Digi Guiness Jtinter Panamy Tanjong |
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Feb 18 2009, 05:03 PM
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look at zelan go up again at one point today its price drop to 0.79 now rise again 0.815
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Feb 18 2009, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 18 2009, 04:56 PM) Without any reference. I can instantly point out several that with constantly good dividend (only list some that got monitor, there may be some missing out) hmm..... may b i shud get another "non-halal" counter BAT Digi Guiness Jtinter Panamy Tanjong QUOTE(kinwawa @ Feb 18 2009, 05:00 PM) ei ...y u din list out our PBBANK ar....dowan fren u liao hehehehe PBBANK cash div lesser last year perhaps? |
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Feb 18 2009, 05:04 PM
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just wanna check, why people say KNM is pure goreng, correct me if i'm wrong.
Their dividend is 4 cents. So lets say i invest about RM 1k, per year i get 0.04 x 2400 = RM 96 RM 96 / RM 1000 = about 9% returns. Isnt that pretty good? compared to standard cash deposit's returns? This post has been edited by Baronic: Feb 18 2009, 05:05 PM |
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Feb 18 2009, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE(Baronic @ Feb 18 2009, 05:04 PM) just wanna check, why people say KNM is pure goreng, correct me if i'm wrong. only if they could sustain the dividend payout.Their dividend is 4 cents. So lets say i invest about RM 1k, per year i get 0.04 x 2400 = RM 96 RM 96 / RM 1000 = about 9% returns. Isnt that pretty good? compared to standard cash deposit's returns? note that they gave 4 sens during 2008, that time KNM price was around 1.80-2.00. you're getting 2% only, and that's before minus the 26% tax. KNM today's closing price is 0.42 |
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Feb 18 2009, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 18 2009, 05:10 PM) only if they could sustain the dividend payout. point taken. but they havent issued new shares or anything major like that right? would it be safe to assume that dividends will be at least 3 cents? if all goes well with the stimulus and all.note that they gave 4 sens during 2008, that time KNM price was around 1.80-2.00. you're getting 2% only, and that's before minus the 26% tax. KNM today's closing price is 0.42 This post has been edited by Baronic: Feb 18 2009, 05:13 PM |
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Feb 18 2009, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(Baronic @ Feb 18 2009, 05:04 PM) just wanna check, why people say KNM is pure goreng, correct me if i'm wrong. the ex-date of the 4 cents interim was on 08 April's fool & do u know at what price KNM closed on 31st March? RM5.3..... so izzit still 9% yield? Their dividend is 4 cents. So lets say i invest about RM 1k, per year i get 0.04 x 2400 = RM 96 RM 96 / RM 1000 = about 9% returns. Isnt that pretty good? compared to standard cash deposit's returns? Added on February 18, 2009, 5:15 pm QUOTE(Baronic @ Feb 18 2009, 05:12 PM) point taken. but they havent issued new shares or anything major like that right? would it be safe to assume that dividends will be at least 3 cents? if all goes well with the stimulus and all. i doubt that another weird thing is KNM used to pay div once every year only...... wondering y did they pay interim div this year? may b some KNM shareholders here can tell us? This post has been edited by fergie1100: Feb 18 2009, 05:16 PM |
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Feb 18 2009, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 18 2009, 05:10 PM) only if they could sustain the dividend payout. Don't think they will declare dividend like that this year...note that they gave 4 sens during 2008, that time KNM price was around 1.80-2.00. you're getting 2% only, and that's before minus the 26% tax. KNM today's closing price is 0.42 |
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Feb 18 2009, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(Baronic @ Feb 18 2009, 05:12 PM) point taken. but they havent issued new shares or anything major like that right? would it be safe to assume that dividends will be at least 3 cents? if all goes well with the stimulus and all. Even if they pay dividends, you'll still have to ask, where did they get the money to pay the dividends?Some companies can actually neck deep with debts, with negative cash flow, and still they have the money to pay dividends... They're heavily financed by the banks, or money from new issue of shares and so on. |
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Feb 18 2009, 05:17 PM
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Ya.. Zelan strong support is at 0.79 - 0.80. Lionind strong support around 0.65 -0.66.
I aim for both Zelan and Lionind. These 2 counters good for swing trade.. buy at low price den sell for profit. I bought Zelan at 0.795 and lionind at 0.66. You bought any Zelan shares today when drop? QUOTE(aoisky @ Feb 18 2009, 05:03 PM) look at zelan go up again at one point today its price drop to 0.79 now rise again 0.815 |
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Feb 18 2009, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE(htt @ Feb 18 2009, 05:16 PM) Don't think they will declare dividend like that this year... neither me. if still give 4 sens, KNM would become dividend top pick jor |
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Feb 18 2009, 05:31 PM
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better becareful bcos alot of hidden news/info of alot companies whether in debt or have serious problems, it would hide from outside world/market until cannot tahan then only disclose. insider know but investor dont know.they know upfront and we dont know. invest blindly will be severely damage later on
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Feb 18 2009, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 18 2009, 05:28 PM) neither me. if still give 4 sens, KNM would become dividend top pick jor KLK 1Q result out, EPS drop to 6 sen from 27 sen. Cash generation capability remain very strong. |
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Feb 18 2009, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(viper88 @ Feb 18 2009, 05:17 PM) Ya.. Zelan strong support is at 0.79 - 0.80. Lionind strong support around 0.65 -0.66. I bought LIONIND at 0.665 just before CNY. Want to unload it yesterday if it rallied further but it went south! I aim for both Zelan and Lionind. These 2 counters good for swing trade.. buy at low price den sell for profit. I bought Zelan at 0.795 and lionind at 0.66. You bought any Zelan shares today when drop? I'm glad I unload my SIME.... made 15% profit.... This post has been edited by kmarc: Feb 18 2009, 05:59 PM |
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Feb 18 2009, 06:07 PM
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Carlsberg 4Q result out, EPS halved from 8 sen to 3+ sen. Final dividend 7.5 sen.
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Feb 18 2009, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(htt @ Feb 18 2009, 06:07 PM) Carlsberg 4Q result out, EPS halved from 8 sen to 3+ sen. Final dividend 7.5 sen. 7.5 sens only? no special dividends? ... not attractive jor. |
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Feb 18 2009, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 18 2009, 06:14 PM) 7.5 sens only? no special dividends? No Special dividend, but initiated stock buy back scheme. ... not attractive jor. Batu Kawan 1Q profit one third compared to last year. |
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Feb 18 2009, 07:18 PM
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QUOTE(Baronic @ Feb 18 2009, 05:04 PM) just wanna check, why people say KNM is pure goreng, correct me if i'm wrong. Ya, if u seach the internet, u will find some blogger ady mention KNM financial statement after acquired the BORSIG. Their dividend is 4 cents. So lets say i invest about RM 1k, per year i get 0.04 x 2400 = RM 96 RM 96 / RM 1000 = about 9% returns. Isnt that pretty good? compared to standard cash deposit's returns? among the most detail can be found at uncle Sam blog: https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=29...308171050840034 Spend ur time to read, buy at ur own risk |
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Feb 18 2009, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE(viper88 @ Feb 18 2009, 05:17 PM) Ya.. Zelan strong support is at 0.79 - 0.80. Lionind strong support around 0.65 -0.66. Yup me too this 2 is my fav counter latelyI aim for both Zelan and Lionind. These 2 counters good for swing trade.. buy at low price den sell for profit. I bought Zelan at 0.795 and lionind at 0.66. You bought any Zelan shares today when drop? |
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Feb 18 2009, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE(Junior83 @ Feb 18 2009, 07:18 PM) Ya, if u seach the internet, u will find some blogger ady mention KNM financial statement after acquired the BORSIG. what do u think about this stock?among the most detail can be found at uncle Sam blog: https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=29...308171050840034 Spend ur time to read, buy at ur own risk look like this counter very shaky not stable meh their current company? but at the moment most of the company also like that |
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Feb 18 2009, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE(htt @ Feb 18 2009, 05:52 PM) KLK 1Q result out, EPS drop to 6 sen from 27 sen. Cash generation capability remain very strong. got it.... soreeeeeeeee Added on February 18, 2009, 8:02 pm QUOTE(htt @ Feb 18 2009, 06:07 PM) Carlsberg 4Q result out, EPS halved from 8 sen to 3+ sen. Final dividend 7.5 sen. wow, where are the alcoholics? Esso loss big on inventory write down. Btw, wat's ESSO? This post has been edited by fergie1100: Feb 18 2009, 08:07 PM |
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Feb 18 2009, 08:34 PM
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European markets open RED.
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Feb 18 2009, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Feb 18 2009, 05:54 PM) I bought LIONIND at 0.665 just before CNY. Want to unload it yesterday if it rallied further but it went south! At what price you bought SIME ? I'm glad I unload my SIME.... made 15% profit.... |
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Feb 18 2009, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Feb 18 2009, 07:54 PM) Added on February 18, 2009, 8:02 pm wow, where are the alcoholics? Btw, wat's ESSO? It is a bad bad quarterly result, especially during 4th Q whereby CNY approaching should register brisk sales and good profit, instead a poor poor 4th Q result. It cannnot sustain anymore special dividend without earn enough (EPS). Another problem is smuggling activities that eroded the alcoholic sales. ESSO? don't know meh? Refiner for Exxon Mobil in Malaysia. Added on February 18, 2009, 8:57 pm QUOTE(Baronic @ Feb 18 2009, 05:12 PM) point taken. but they havent issued new shares or anything major like that right? would it be safe to assume that dividends will be at least 3 cents? if all goes well with the stimulus and all. Since its 4 cents interim dividend during April 2008, it has a bonus issue 2:1 and right issue of 1:4.So more shares liao. This post has been edited by cherroy: Feb 18 2009, 08:57 PM |
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Feb 18 2009, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 18 2009, 08:51 PM) Alchoholic still there. But market share has been eroded by Guiness Tiger. I think the profit margin for breweries has eroded since 1 year ago due to intense competition. Last time 1 carton usually about $110-130,It is a bad bad quarterly result, especially during 4th Q whereby CNY approaching should register brisk sales and good profit, instead a poor poor 4th Q result. It cannnot sustain anymore special dividend without earn enough (EPS). Another problem is smuggling activities that eroded the alcoholic sales. ESSO? don't know meh? Refiner for Exxon Mobil in Malaysia. nowadays since before Chinese New year till now $88-100 I'm quite interested to buy Carlsberg stock but still feel unsure. This post has been edited by sharesa: Feb 18 2009, 09:01 PM |
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so i expect Carlsberg share price to plunge on tomolo!
it has been surging up from 3.6x to 3.80 for no reason!!! with poor quarterly report + no special dividend, its price must go down!!! |
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Feb 18 2009, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Feb 18 2009, 08:59 PM) I think the profit margin for breweries has eroded since 1 year ago due to intense competition. Last time 1 carton usually about $110-120, Since late 2-3 years Carlsberg result is deteoriating while Guiness still hold on its profit quite strongly, it just sum up the market share issue. nowadays since before Chinese New year till now $88-100 I'm quite interested to buy Carlsberg stock but still feel unsure. Infact Guiness is giving out around 40-46 cents pa (sustainable with EPS), while Carlsberg is struggling to give generous dividend (while some special dividend are given based on accumulated profit/cash not from sustaintable EPS). Margin is squeezed since 3-4 years ago when gov raised the alcoholic tax. Added on February 18, 2009, 9:05 pm QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 18 2009, 09:04 PM) so i expect Carlsberg share price to plunge on tomolo! No interest to buy this stock anymore. it has been surging up from 3.6x to 3.80 for no reason!!! with poor quarterly report + no special dividend, its price must go down!!!  This post has been edited by cherroy: Feb 18 2009, 09:05 PM |
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Feb 18 2009, 09:10 PM
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yah, same here. the grass is greener out there
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Feb 18 2009, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 18 2009, 09:04 PM) Since late 2-3 years Carlsberg result is deteoriating while Guiness still hold on its profit quite strongly, it just sum up the market share issue. thanks for the detailed insight. Its difficult for me to make a decision based on numbers only.Infact Guiness is giving out around 40-46 cents pa (sustainable with EPS), while Carlsberg is struggling to give generous dividend (while some special dividend are given based on accumulated profit/cash not from sustaintable EPS). Margin is squeezed since 3-4 years ago when gov raised the alcoholic tax. Added on February 18, 2009, 9:05 pm No interest to buy this stock anymore. |
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BJTOTO is no longer a good dividend stock?
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Feb 18 2009, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 18 2009, 08:51 PM) Alchoholic still there. But market share has been eroded by Guiness Tiger. But at least they still can maintain their profits for the whole year... may be they'll like to preserve more cash?It is a bad bad quarterly result, especially during 4th Q whereby CNY approaching should register brisk sales and good profit, instead a poor poor 4th Q result. It cannnot sustain anymore special dividend without earn enough (EPS). Another problem is smuggling activities that eroded the alcoholic sales. ESSO? don't know meh? Refiner for Exxon Mobil in Malaysia. Added on February 18, 2009, 8:57 pm Since its 4 cents interim dividend during April 2008, it has a bonus issue 2:1 and right issue of 1:4. So more shares liao. oh, my bad..... been a while since i saw an ESSO station |
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Feb 18 2009, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Feb 18 2009, 11:15 PM) But at least they still can maintain their profits for the whole year... may be they'll like to preserve more cash? I believe Esso is now also Mobil, now known as Esso Mobil or something oh, my bad..... been a while since i saw an ESSO station |
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Feb 18 2009, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 18 2009, 09:04 PM) Since late 2-3 years Carlsberg result is deteoriating while Guiness still hold on its profit quite strongly, it just sum up the market share issue. (sustainable with EPS) - does this mean "how well can a company generates profits solely based on the $$ they get from the investors"?Infact Guiness is giving out around 40-46 cents pa (sustainable with EPS), while Carlsberg is struggling to give generous dividend (while some special dividend are given based on accumulated profit/cash not from sustaintable EPS). Margin is squeezed since 3-4 years ago when gov raised the alcoholic tax. Added on February 18, 2009, 9:05 pm No interest to buy this stock anymore. |
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Feb 18 2009, 11:28 PM
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How do you think Genting will fare when the upcoming financial report is out?
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Feb 19 2009, 07:30 AM
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DOW 7555.63 +3.03
34.62 - 0.89% Latest news: Perak might switch gov again- Perak MB and 6 excos suspended by speaker. gamuda dream might not come true..... This post has been edited by Junior83: Feb 19 2009, 07:50 AM |
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QUOTE(Junior83 @ Feb 19 2009, 07:30 AM) DOW 7555.63 +3.03 Wah, switch here and there.34.62 - 0.89% Latest news: Perak might switch gov again- Perak MB and 6 excos suspended by speaker. gamuda dream might not come true..... What they think this is child play? Someone please help to end it for them and let others know that this kind of act is not condone by the society. For nothing give pressure to our share market, already "ai si, mai si" somemore add on oil to make it burn faster. This post has been edited by AzerothJr: Feb 19 2009, 08:26 AM |
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Feb 19 2009, 08:45 AM
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why switch again ah play
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Feb 19 2009, 08:51 AM
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F&N and Coca-Cola end relationship in Jan 2010
KUALA LUMPUR, Feb 18 — Fraser & Neave Holdings Bhd (F&N) announced today that its bottler’s and distributor’s agreements with Coca-Cola Company which are due to expire on January 26 next year will not be renewed. In its filing to Bursa Malaysia today, F&N said the impact on profitability for the following year may be material depending on the outcome of the post-termination transition plan, if any. The company said it will make further announcements as soon as more information becomes available. Currently, the soft drinks division is the single largest profit contributor to the F&N group, accounting for 48 per cent of the total operating profit. F&N said sales revenue of the Coca-Cola products amounted to RM421 million or 35 percent of the division’s revenue in the financial year 2007/2008. — Bernama |
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QUOTE(Junior83 @ Feb 19 2009, 07:30 AM) DOW 7555.63 +3.03 wow.... political stuff again... 34.62 - 0.89% Latest news: Perak might switch gov again- Perak MB and 6 excos suspended by speaker. gamuda dream might not come true..... Added on February 19, 2009, 9:05 am QUOTE(kinwawa @ Feb 19 2009, 08:51 AM) F&N and Coca-Cola end relationship in Jan 2010 wow..... It's going to hit F&N badly if they can't secure the agreement with Coca-cola... KUALA LUMPUR, Feb 18 — Fraser & Neave Holdings Bhd (F&N) announced today that its bottler’s and distributor’s agreements with Coca-Cola Company which are due to expire on January 26 next year will not be renewed. In its filing to Bursa Malaysia today, F&N said the impact on profitability for the following year may be material depending on the outcome of the post-termination transition plan, if any. The company said it will make further announcements as soon as more information becomes available. Currently, the soft drinks division is the single largest profit contributor to the F&N group, accounting for 48 per cent of the total operating profit. F&N said sales revenue of the Coca-Cola products amounted to RM421 million or 35 percent of the division’s revenue in the financial year 2007/2008. — Bernama with the uncertainties on sugar price some more, i guess F&N is no more a defensive stock? This post has been edited by fergie1100: Feb 19 2009, 09:05 AM |
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F&N price will be droping like shit!
QUOTE(kinwawa @ Feb 19 2009, 08:51 AM) F&N and Coca-Cola end relationship in Jan 2010 KUALA LUMPUR, Feb 18 — Fraser & Neave Holdings Bhd (F&N) announced today that its bottler’s and distributor’s agreements with Coca-Cola Company which are due to expire on January 26 next year will not be renewed. In its filing to Bursa Malaysia today, F&N said the impact on profitability for the following year may be material depending on the outcome of the post-termination transition plan, if any. The company said it will make further announcements as soon as more information becomes available. Currently, the soft drinks division is the single largest profit contributor to the F&N group, accounting for 48 per cent of the total operating profit. F&N said sales revenue of the Coca-Cola products amounted to RM421 million or 35 percent of the division’s revenue in the financial year 2007/2008. — Bernama |
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Feb 19 2009, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Feb 19 2009, 08:51 AM) F&N and Coca-Cola end relationship in Jan 2010 so this news caused F&N to lose 90 sens today!KUALA LUMPUR, Feb 18 — Fraser & Neave Holdings Bhd (F&N) announced today that its bottler’s and distributor’s agreements with Coca-Cola Company which are due to expire on January 26 next year will not be renewed. In its filing to Bursa Malaysia today, F&N said the impact on profitability for the following year may be material depending on the outcome of the post-termination transition plan, if any. The company said it will make further announcements as soon as more information becomes available. Currently, the soft drinks division is the single largest profit contributor to the F&N group, accounting for 48 per cent of the total operating profit. F&N said sales revenue of the Coca-Cola products amounted to RM421 million or 35 percent of the division’s revenue in the financial year 2007/2008. — Bernama without taikor coca cola, sure big impact isn't! |
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Feb 19 2009, 09:07 AM
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goodbye my love, Carlsberg.
disappointed. |
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Feb 19 2009, 09:17 AM
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Anyone experience slow connection to M2U
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Feb 19 2009, 09:17 AM
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"THE price of premium grade petrol RON 97 will be floated according to international oil prices from July.
It is understood that oil companies briefed their retailers this week that there will also be changes to grades of fuel sold at pumps. Several retailers said the “regular” grade RON 92 fuel would be phased out and a new grade, RON 95, would be introduced, in addition to RON 97. " Something to share here also, but i might not affect the market anyway Pana, u r rite.... F&N is bleeding a lot This post has been edited by fergie1100: Feb 19 2009, 09:20 AM |
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Feb 19 2009, 09:18 AM
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I'm surprised that F&N only drop 10%. I thought it will hit lower limit in the morning...
QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 19 2009, 09:06 AM) so this news caused F&N to lose 90 sens today! without taikor coca cola, sure big impact isn't! Added on February 19, 2009, 9:18 amConnection normal. QUOTE(dilla @ Feb 19 2009, 09:17 AM) Anyone experience slow connection to M2U This post has been edited by chyaw: Feb 19 2009, 09:18 AM |
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Feb 19 2009, 09:26 AM
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yes m2u very slow this few days
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Feb 19 2009, 09:27 AM
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so...v lose another two good div. yielding stock....bye bye F&N n Carlsbg.....*sob* *sob*
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Feb 19 2009, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Feb 19 2009, 09:18 AM) I'm surprised that F&N only drop 10%. I thought it will hit lower limit in the morning... The news come out now, but the effect won't be felt during this financial year but the next financial year end 2010. So if people continue to sell now they have neglected the profits made by F&N prior using the Coca Cola brand.Added on February 19, 2009, 9:18 amConnection normal. I believe the share price of F&N will depreciate over a long span of time, the closer to the termination date the more severe the price will drop. For the time being it looks like its bothering on oversold. As for future concerns... 1. Who will be the lucky one to pick up Cola's distributorship? (normally target price will appreciate significantly not to mention cola actually contributed 35% of F&N's profits) 2. Or... worse case scenario Cola will be moving in to Malaysia and setting up their own facility controling distribution and manufacturing. (this is a more likely prospect) |
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Feb 19 2009, 09:34 AM
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cannot use m2u also haah
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Feb 19 2009, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Feb 19 2009, 09:27 AM) so...v lose another two good div. yielding stock....bye bye F&N n Carlsbg.....*sob* *sob* who's gonna supply us coca-cola after that? |
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Feb 19 2009, 09:39 AM
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why ha .. they don wanna supply cannot get oth mea
Added on February 19, 2009, 9:42 amtill now also cannot connect to m2u This post has been edited by mo_meng: Feb 19 2009, 09:42 AM |
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Feb 19 2009, 09:42 AM
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get pepsi..haha..
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Feb 19 2009, 09:48 AM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Feb 19 2009, 09:34 AM) cannot use m2u also haah seems that the response from M2U ...shows pop-up notice schedule maintenance...been trying to log in since this morning |
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Feb 19 2009, 09:51 AM
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I think Coca Cola will announce something soon. They can't wait until last minute, right?
Anyone knows Coca Cola style? Do they setup their own facilities in other countries??? I think they need time to setup (unless they buy up F&N facilities). So, I think most likely they will appoint another distributor QUOTE(aurora97 @ Feb 19 2009, 09:32 AM) The news come out now, but the effect won't be felt during this financial year but the next financial year end 2010. So if people continue to sell now they have neglected the profits made by F&N prior using the Coca Cola brand. I believe the share price of F&N will depreciate over a long span of time, the closer to the termination date the more severe the price will drop. For the time being it looks like its bothering on oversold. As for future concerns... 1. Who will be the lucky one to pick up Cola's distributorship? (normally target price will appreciate significantly not to mention cola actually contributed 35% of F&N's profits) 2. Or... worse case scenario Cola will be moving in to Malaysia and setting up their own facility controling distribution and manufacturing. (this is a more likely prospect) |
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Feb 19 2009, 09:56 AM
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walau m2u preventing ppl from buying ah
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Feb 19 2009, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Feb 19 2009, 09:51 AM) I think Coca Cola will announce something soon. They can't wait until last minute, right? India and china are two examples u r looking at..Anyone knows Coca Cola style? Do they setup their own facilities in other countries??? I think they need time to setup (unless they buy up F&N facilities). So, I think most likely they will appoint another distributor the facilities r kacang putehla, i think Cola made enuf profits to setup a plant in Malaysia thats why they asked F&N to go fly kite. |
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Feb 19 2009, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Feb 19 2009, 09:51 AM) I think Coca Cola will announce something soon. They can't wait until last minute, right? May b the Kouk's family want to get the "fat meat" away from F&N? Anyone knows Coca Cola style? Do they setup their own facilities in other countries??? I think they need time to setup (unless they buy up F&N facilities). So, I think most likely they will appoint another distributor since they have 10 CC bottling companies in China already.... they can easily set up a few here |
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Feb 19 2009, 10:01 AM
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wtf still cannot login into m2u .. play wat play wat ahhh
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Feb 19 2009, 10:03 AM
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I know they have more than enough money to setup a plant here. But, time is a concern. Buy a land, build the plant, install machinaries, process qualifications, etc. Less than 1yr can complete? Maybe, but they need to start now! So, they should be making some announcement soon!
QUOTE(aurora97 @ Feb 19 2009, 09:56 AM) India and china are two examples u r looking at.. the facilities r kacang putehla, i think Cola made enuf profits to setup a plant in Malaysia thats why they asked F&N to go fly kite. |
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Feb 19 2009, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Feb 19 2009, 10:01 AM) wtf still cannot login into m2u .. play wat play wat ahhh maybe you can try login thru Mayban banking, then go to stocks, which worked for me. |
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Feb 19 2009, 10:05 AM
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maybank banking .. wat address ha
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Feb 19 2009, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Feb 19 2009, 10:05 AM) maybank banking .. wat address ha sorry, what I meant was "m2u banking", then go online stocks. Instead of going directly "online stock" |
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Feb 19 2009, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Feb 19 2009, 10:09 AM) sorry, what I meant was "m2u banking", then go online stocks. Instead of going directly "online stock" i cant go into m2u too ... using m2u banking also cannot .. wtf!!! |
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Feb 19 2009, 10:17 AM
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i wonder who will obtain the coca cola contract. this information is worth million.
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Feb 19 2009, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Feb 19 2009, 10:01 AM) wtf still cannot login into m2u .. play wat play wat ahhh Guys ... those who use maybank... can try login now.. be patient .. once you get through the login interface and reach the market listing page.. iut will be smooth.. and try your best not to logout.. from there.. Congested traffic.. |
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Feb 19 2009, 10:25 AM
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i still cannot get to m2u login page
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Feb 19 2009, 10:27 AM
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i am getting " Our system is currently busy. Please try again later. "
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Feb 19 2009, 10:29 AM
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paying banana still cannot get anything haha
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Feb 19 2009, 10:38 AM
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maybank is like that one system under maintenence.
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Feb 19 2009, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(aoisky @ Feb 19 2009, 10:38 AM) maybank is like that one system under maintenence. Sort of.. lolz.. anyway.. the login page is very slow.. once you login .. wait til the white page loaded.. i tried 5 times.. only the fifth time.. i manage to open it.. there is another way to do it.. close up all the other programs.. first.. then just load the explorer and have the full processor to concentrate on the receiving end.. from the maybank server.. its just sluggish .. thank god can still login... Perhaps.. anyone call up to the maybank service center? should find out something i guess.. |
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Feb 19 2009, 10:44 AM
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no need to call de last time i call them also for same matters but they said they dunno and will investigate with IT lo
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Feb 19 2009, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Feb 19 2009, 10:44 AM) no need to call de last time i call them also for same matters but they said they dunno and will investigate with IT lo i didnt know so lousy d services they provide.. then . just go keep on trying til you break in ... lolzAny counter that you wanna check ? perhaps.. i can help a little ? wanna know about the queuing or something ? Added on February 19, 2009, 10:50 amOuch .. KLK .. 9.90... i miss that boat.. This post has been edited by lsmpro80: Feb 19 2009, 10:50 AM |
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Feb 19 2009, 10:58 AM
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another problem could be your ISP provider problem.
Last week I had problem access to Maybank , Public Bank and other websites due to internet provider problem. After calling TM, reported the problem , then next day could access. There was some cable trouble. |
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Feb 19 2009, 10:59 AM
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thanks but dont wanan chk since i cannot login to do anything also
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Feb 19 2009, 11:00 AM
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m2u...so boring alomost half a day of trading day gone until now unable to get thru...wasting time
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Feb 19 2009, 11:07 AM
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This morning, I've no problem accessing M2U, now can't access... Luckily, I'm not buying any shares this week and next week.
Anyone complaint this to Maybank? QUOTE(dilla @ Feb 19 2009, 11:00 AM) m2u...so boring alomost half a day of trading day gone until now unable to get thru...wasting time |
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Feb 19 2009, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Feb 18 2009, 11:22 PM) (sustainable with EPS) - does this mean "how well can a company generates profits solely based on the $$ they get from the investors"? For company to pay shareholders with good dividend, they need to earn/make profit enough and cashflow to pay for you.Any dividend given out not based on EPS is not sustainable in the long run. There are some company give special dividend based on one off gain from asset sold or accumulated profit previously, but over the long run, they can't continue to do so without making enough profit (EPS) to sustain it. Jam in Penang bridge for almost 3 hours, just arrive at office.  (normal travel time is 15 minutes) Road from Penang ro B'worth totally close, and need to divert to the road B'worth to Penang causing massive jam at both side. This post has been edited by cherroy: Feb 19 2009, 11:18 AM |
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Feb 19 2009, 11:17 AM
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they have alot prob d le ... as i know ....
so far the most no complained platform is jupiter only . other bank platform they provide was all been complained before . KLSE MACAM SNAIL WORSE THN SNAIL!!!!!!!!!! |
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Feb 19 2009, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 19 2009, 11:15 AM) For company to pay shareholders with good dividend, they need to earn/make profit enough and cashflow to pay for you. goodness, time and money wasted. Why road closure during working hours?Any dividend given out not based on EPS is not sustainable in the long run. There are some company give special dividend based on one off gain from asset sold or accumulated profit previously, but over the long run, they can't continue to do so without making enough profit (EPS) to sustain it. Jam in Penang bridge for almost 3 hours, just arrive at office. (normal travel time is 15 minutes) Road from Penang ro B'worth totally close, and need to divert to the road B'worth to Penang causing massive jam at both side. |
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Feb 19 2009, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 19 2009, 11:15 AM) For company to pay shareholders with good dividend, they need to earn/make profit enough and cashflow to pay for you. oh shit.. what happened there? no news in thestar eh? i going to cross later.. dunno can cross or not =.=''Any dividend given out not based on EPS is not sustainable in the long run. There are some company give special dividend based on one off gain from asset sold or accumulated profit previously, but over the long run, they can't continue to do so without making enough profit (EPS) to sustain it. Jam in Penang bridge for almost 3 hours, just arrive at office. (normal travel time is 15 minutes) Road from Penang ro B'worth totally close, and need to divert to the road B'worth to Penang causing massive jam at both side. |
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Feb 19 2009, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Feb 19 2009, 11:19 AM) goodness, time and money wasted. Why road closure during working hours? Don't know, I saw several crane are working at bridge side (where the road is closed one). Rumour said (I also don't know), crane dropped into the sea. (Penang bridge is under going expansion for another lane, so construction is working on there.) Btw, it is disastrous news for F&N. Unless they working out something, otherwise, solely relied on its brand, sales will be impacted signficantly, and not suit to long term at time being. |
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Feb 19 2009, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE disastrous news for F&N. Its going with a steep fall ... |
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Feb 19 2009, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(lsmpro80 @ Feb 19 2009, 12:29 PM) Its going with a steep fall ... no problem i thin they still got 100 plus to sustain. If they unable to become sole distributor, but noboday said they cannot become small distributor lah, there still earn, but profit may drop 10%. so the current share price may be sustain to rm7. as long as coca-cola still need distributors, and got market in malaysia, how F&N die with their huge network. |
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Feb 19 2009, 11:35 AM
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I think Cola wants higher fees imposed on F & N's distributorship which is so lucrative in Malaysia market.
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Feb 19 2009, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 19 2009, 11:25 AM) Don't know, I saw several crane are working at bridge side (where the road is closed one). The crane take too heavy load and flip 90 degree on the road this morning, i saw it when i cross the bridge this morning around 7am.... both side ppl drive slow to watch oso Rumour said (I also don't know), crane dropped into the sea. (Penang bridge is under going expansion for another lane, so construction is working on there.) Btw, it is disastrous news for F&N. Unless they working out something, otherwise, solely relied on its brand, sales will be impacted signficantly, and not suit to long term at time being. , luckyly cross d bridge early today |
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Feb 19 2009, 11:36 AM
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free fall on F&N.... dropped RM1.10
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Feb 19 2009, 11:38 AM
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today market movement makes me vomit battery lol
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Feb 19 2009, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 19 2009, 11:36 AM) free fall on F&N.... dropped RM1.10 Is it worth to catch the knife?If tmr Coke decide to giv the contract.. then rebound back |
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Feb 19 2009, 11:46 AM
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guys,
just wanna check that the dividends you received from year 2009 has no tax right? I was wondering how come my Saprces dividends were paid in full amount (which am glad) as there is no mention of tax-exempt |
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Feb 19 2009, 11:52 AM
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hehehe...sharesa.....mine too..just received yest....like getting a 'bonus'
i think it's becoz single tier div rite? |
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Feb 19 2009, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE(Junior83 @ Feb 19 2009, 11:45 AM) Is it worth to catch the knife? FF waking up only to notice they got screwed F&N down 1.20If tmr Coke decide to giv the contract.. then rebound back Morning Session Limit down RM 2.70 (RM 6.30) |
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Feb 19 2009, 11:54 AM
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anyone interested in AEON..looks like the price is at almost the lowest yesterday and today got slight rebound.
Can it be another Parkson?? |
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Feb 19 2009, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Feb 19 2009, 11:52 AM) hehehe...sharesa.....mine too..just received yest....like getting a 'bonus' apa meaning single -tier? I have no idea.i think it's becoz single tier div rite? |
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Feb 19 2009, 12:03 PM
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F&N further bleed, -RM1.350
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Feb 19 2009, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Feb 16 2009, 03:12 PM) CIMB investment top 3 pick!!! Neo18...why didn't CIMB investment include TMI..otherwise can make money by todaya. Resort b. TM c. YTL Power |
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Feb 19 2009, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Feb 19 2009, 11:59 AM) apa meaning single -tier? I have no idea. ini dia,http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...18&sec=business |
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Feb 19 2009, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Feb 19 2009, 11:59 AM) apa meaning single -tier? I have no idea. generally...i think it has already been tax to the company account......actually v r losing coz v cant redeem back the money that has been taxed to the company....unless our salary so high tat v really pay 27% tax bracket la....our Mr. remisier lklatmy has a good explanation in his blog http://lklatmy.blogspot.com/2008/09/single...-effect-on.html correct me if i'm wrong |
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Feb 19 2009, 12:08 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 19 2009, 12:04 PM) Thank you, Cik-adik.This is what we discussed in this forum one year ago and its implementing now. Added on February 19, 2009, 12:09 pm QUOTE(kinwawa @ Feb 19 2009, 12:05 PM) generally...i think it has already been tax to the company account......actually v r losing coz v cant redeem back the money that has been taxed to the company....unless our salary so high tat v really pay 27% tax bracket la.... thank you too for this piece of infoour Mr. remisier lklatmy has a good explanation in his blog http://lklatmy.blogspot.com/2008/09/single...-effect-on.html correct me if i'm wrong This post has been edited by sharesa: Feb 19 2009, 12:09 PM |
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Feb 19 2009, 12:10 PM
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btw...sharesa.....keeping ur sapcres or sell on strength??
i'm looking in the region of at least 0.9 probably before considering selling |
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Feb 19 2009, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Feb 19 2009, 12:10 PM) btw...sharesa.....keeping ur sapcres or sell on strength?? Yes, same here, Kinwawa. I had few opportunity to sell but too bad I didn't.i'm looking in the region of at least 0.9 probably before considering selling Maybe the next time around 0.90 - 1.00 , because 2009 financial results supposed to be better. |
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Feb 19 2009, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Feb 19 2009, 12:05 PM) generally...i think it has already been tax to the company account......actually v r losing coz v cant redeem back the money that has been taxed to the company....unless our salary so high tat v really pay 27% tax bracket la.... Thank you thank you. our Mr. remisier lklatmy has a good explanation in his blog http://lklatmy.blogspot.com/2008/09/single...-effect-on.html correct me if i'm wrong |
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Feb 19 2009, 12:44 PM
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now i can only login when all go out to eat after closing first session
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Feb 19 2009, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Feb 19 2009, 12:44 PM) now i can only login when all go out to eat after closing first session LOL! so "hot" meh |
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Feb 19 2009, 01:25 PM
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walau long time din monitor my uchitech drop so much liao ah
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Feb 19 2009, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Feb 19 2009, 01:25 PM) walau long time din monitor my uchitech drop so much liao ah i'm monitoring also hehehehe.....hopefully can get a good deal before april |
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Feb 19 2009, 02:01 PM
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mine 0.94 maybe need to avg if drop more
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Feb 19 2009, 02:06 PM
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I am very curious why Uchitech dropped so much... fundamentals still good wor...
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Feb 19 2009, 02:07 PM
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I'll only consider Uchitech if it drop below 0.80
QUOTE(mo_meng @ Feb 19 2009, 02:01 PM) mine 0.94 maybe need to avg if drop more |
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Feb 19 2009, 02:13 PM
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Cocaine price 'set to fall more'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7898087.stm Short Cocaine contracts anyone? |
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Feb 19 2009, 02:19 PM
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In M'sia, can we short cocaine??? If can, maybe can short gold!!!
QUOTE(aurora97 @ Feb 19 2009, 02:13 PM) Cocaine price 'set to fall more' http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7898087.stm Short Cocaine contracts anyone? |
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Feb 19 2009, 03:06 PM
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Any1 have news on Huaan?
Suddenly the buy que at 0.225 up so much.. Its report coming out soon.. end of Feb. The profit should be lower coz demand less.. hmm. Lionind at 0.66 now. Zelan 0.805 Us Future +20... |
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Feb 19 2009, 03:12 PM
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Monitoring Resorts.
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Feb 19 2009, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(viper88 @ Feb 19 2009, 03:06 PM) Any1 have news on Huaan? MMC boss is busy pushing MMC, somehow forgetting about Zelan. Suddenly the buy que at 0.225 up so much.. Its report coming out soon.. end of Feb. The profit should be lower coz demand less.. hmm. Lionind at 0.66 now. Zelan 0.805 Us Future +20... But Zelan is quite safe to buy at 79.5sen. Still keeping my Zelan. |
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Feb 19 2009, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(viper88 @ Feb 19 2009, 03:06 PM) Any1 have news on Huaan? HUAAN Q got up meh where got ?Suddenly the buy que at 0.225 up so much.. Its report coming out soon.. end of Feb. The profit should be lower coz demand less.. hmm. Lionind at 0.66 now. Zelan 0.805 Us Future +20... btw u like steel counter r |
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Feb 19 2009, 03:18 PM
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Wonder why today transaction so low
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Feb 19 2009, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE(aoisky @ Feb 19 2009, 03:16 PM) HUAAN Q got up meh where got ? those 2 are his favourite swing trade counters btw u like steel counter r |
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Feb 19 2009, 03:22 PM
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this week transactions like snails, even slower than turtle -.-
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Feb 19 2009, 03:23 PM
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HUAAN has strong support at 0.22-0.225, price is stable around the range quite long ady.
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Feb 19 2009, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(aoisky @ Feb 19 2009, 03:18 PM) Wonder why today transaction so low QUOTE(shoduken @ Feb 19 2009, 03:22 PM) this week transactions like snails, even slower than turtle -.- Most probably people are playing safe now while waiting for financials to be out soon. |
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Feb 19 2009, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(Junior83 @ Feb 19 2009, 03:23 PM) HUAAN has strong support at 0.22-0.225, price is stable around the range quite long ady. yes but the price not moving up much either |
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Feb 19 2009, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(aoisky @ Feb 19 2009, 03:32 PM) yes but the price not moving up much either ya, because it's winter stock |
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Feb 19 2009, 03:42 PM
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anyone catch the falling dagger on F&N?
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Feb 19 2009, 03:48 PM
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I only caught some fallen knife n managed to sell it this morning
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Feb 19 2009, 03:52 PM
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Wa.. u really got big balls.
QUOTE(alivecmh @ Feb 19 2009, 03:48 PM) I only caught some fallen knife n managed to sell it this morning |
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Feb 19 2009, 04:09 PM
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damn thrilling la, can make money meh? down more than up
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Feb 19 2009, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 19 2009, 04:09 PM) damn thrilling la, can make money meh? down more than up hmm....yalor...lowest today 7.6...now 7.8.....have to buy such high volume only can make decent money...such high risk...not worth it.... |
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Feb 19 2009, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Feb 19 2009, 04:27 PM) hmm....yalor...lowest today 7.6...now 7.8.....have to buy such high volume only can make decent money...such high risk...not worth it.... Not worth to catch a falling dagger most of the time.Sales of Coca-cola make up the 35% of the total sales of the company, so if there is no new development and company lose its business on Coca-cola, then at least 35% impact for the company financial result. So ain't share price need to adjust 35%? |
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Feb 19 2009, 05:38 PM
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Is this a good news or bad news???
Type : Announcement Subject : Proposed Dealings by Principal Officers in the Securities of the Company During a Closed Period Contents : We wish to announce that pursuant to Paragraph 14.08 of the Listing Requirements of Bursa Malaysia Securities Berhad, Zelan Berhad ( the "Company") has on 19 February 2009, received notifications all dated 19 February 2009 from two principal officers of the Company, Mr. Teh Keng Ming and Mr. Ting Pang Cheo of their intention to deal in the Company's securities during the closed period pending an announcement of the Company's financial results for the quarter ended 31 December 2008. Their current shareholdings is as per the table below. Announcement Details : Name Description of Securities No. of Ordinary Shares % of the issued capital Mr. Teh Keng Ming Ordinary Shares of 50 sen each 10,000 0.002 Mr. Ting Pang Cheo Ordinary Shares of 50 sen each 30,000 0.005 |
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Feb 19 2009, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 19 2009, 04:58 PM) Not worth to catch a falling dagger most of the time. wah cruel nia, that would be 5.85 then (based on today's opening price) Sales of Coca-cola make up the 35% of the total sales of the company, so if there is no new development and company lose its business on Coca-cola, then at least 35% impact for the company financial result. So ain't share price need to adjust 35%? |
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Feb 19 2009, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Feb 19 2009, 05:38 PM) Is this a good news or bad news??? nothing special, just an announcement on two principal officers trying to buy Zelan share during close period.Type : Announcement Subject : Proposed Dealings by Principal Officers in the Securities of the Company During a Closed Period Contents : We wish to announce that pursuant to Paragraph 14.08 of the Listing Requirements of Bursa Malaysia Securities Berhad, Zelan Berhad ( the "Company") has on 19 February 2009, received notifications all dated 19 February 2009 from two principal officers of the Company, Mr. Teh Keng Ming and Mr. Ting Pang Cheo of their intention to deal in the Company's securities during the closed period pending an announcement of the Company's financial results for the quarter ended 31 December 2008. Their current shareholdings is as per the table below. Announcement Details : Name Description of Securities No. of Ordinary Shares % of the issued capital Mr. Teh Keng Ming Ordinary Shares of 50 sen each 10,000 0.002 Mr. Ting Pang Cheo Ordinary Shares of 50 sen each 30,000 0.005 |
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Feb 19 2009, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Feb 19 2009, 05:38 PM) Is this a good news or bad news??? Perhaps hinting to the investors that results to be announced are within the " expectations ", so plse hold on to the shares.Type : Announcement Subject : Proposed Dealings by Principal Officers in the Securities of the Company During a Closed Period Contents : We wish to announce that pursuant to Paragraph 14.08 of the Listing Requirements of Bursa Malaysia Securities Berhad, Zelan Berhad ( the "Company") has on 19 February 2009, received notifications all dated 19 February 2009 from two principal officers of the Company, Mr. Teh Keng Ming and Mr. Ting Pang Cheo of their intention to deal in the Company's securities during the closed period pending an announcement of the Company's financial results for the quarter ended 31 December 2008. Their current shareholdings is as per the table below. Â Â Announcement Details : Name Description of Securities No. of Ordinary Shares % of the issued capital Mr. Teh Keng Ming Ordinary Shares of 50 sen each 10,000 0.002 Mr. Ting Pang Cheo Ordinary Shares of 50 sen each 30,000 0.005 Just guessing only. Correct me if I am wrong. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Feb 19 2009, 07:21 PM |
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Feb 19 2009, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 19 2009, 07:13 PM) Perhaps hinting to the investors that results to be announced are within the " expectations ", so plse hold on to the shares. So this mean good news rightJust guessing only. Correct me if I am wrong. |
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Feb 19 2009, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Feb 19 2009, 05:38 PM) Is this a good news or bad news??? Nothing good or bad, the transaction is totally insignificant. Mr. Teh Keng Ming Ordinary Shares of 50 sen each 10,000 0.002 Mr. Ting Pang Cheo Ordinary Shares of 50 sen each 30,000 0.005 30,000 shares just a little tiny peanut amount. If they bought 3 millions shares then may be investors will be alerted. Btw, it doesn't state the transaction is buy or sell either based on the information posted. It can be either way. |
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Feb 19 2009, 09:27 PM
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So, will it affect Zelan share tomorrow ?
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Feb 19 2009, 10:02 PM
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i still hold zelan @0.825..sold puncak @3.00 today. Cash back some bullet..hehe
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Feb 19 2009, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 19 2009, 08:33 PM) Nothing good or bad, the transaction is totally insignificant. The announcement merely states that the principal officials intend to deal (can be buy or sell)in the shares of the company within the closed period.30,000 shares just a little tiny peanut amount. If they bought 3 millions shares then may be investors will be alerted. Btw, it doesn't state the transaction is buy or sell either based on the information posted. It can be either way. Closed period means two weeks (not sure though）before the company announces the quarterly/yearly results. This kind of announcement usually have no bearing on the tradings. |
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Feb 20 2009, 06:49 AM
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Wow, DJIA scored lowest since November..
All RED... |
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Feb 20 2009, 06:54 AM
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Dow 7,465.95 -89.68 -1.19%
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Feb 20 2009, 07:36 AM
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Dow ends at lowest close in more than 6 years
URL: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Dow-ends-at-...f-14416881.html |
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Feb 20 2009, 07:57 AM
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Hi Iklatmy,
Thanks for the reply! My personal opinion is the principal official got minimum stock in hand. So, the chances they intent to sell the shares is low (if the company perform badly, the losses for them in shares also not significant). Therefore, I think most likely they intend to buy in a lot of shares (current price is very low based on my FA). Any other opinion? Maybe can catch a good deal! QUOTE(lklatmy @ Feb 19 2009, 11:46 PM) The announcement merely states that the principal officials intend to deal (can be buy or sell)in the shares of the company within the closed period. Closed period means two weeks (not sure though）before the company announces the quarterly/yearly results. This kind of announcement usually have no bearing on the tradings. |
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Feb 20 2009, 08:38 AM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Feb 20 2009, 07:57 AM) Hi Iklatmy, Ya, these high ranking officers could be fired for selling 40, 000 shares ( worth rm 32,400 ) during the closed period, unless they want to go into real confrontation with the major shareholders.Thanks for the reply! My personal opinion is the principal official got minimum stock in hand. So, the chances they intent to sell the shares is low (if the company perform badly, the losses for them in shares also not significant). Therefore, I think most likely they intend to buy in a lot of shares (current price is very low based on my FA). Any other opinion? Maybe can catch a good deal! Getting a new highly paid job is not that easy in today environment. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Feb 20 2009, 08:40 AM |
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Feb 20 2009, 08:41 AM
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HLB is down again...
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Feb 20 2009, 08:46 AM
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jupiter oso down
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Feb 20 2009, 08:47 AM
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QUOTE(eltaria @ Feb 20 2009, 08:41 AM) HLB is down again... never mind as long as HLE up we can trade. |
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Feb 20 2009, 08:48 AM
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m2u can use wo haha wierd
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Feb 20 2009, 08:48 AM
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wow DJI close below 7500 its going to be a bloody friday trade today
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Feb 20 2009, 08:50 AM
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bursa system down low trade volume for this weeks may be the bursa system still having problem
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Feb 20 2009, 08:53 AM
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QUOTE(kingkong81 @ Feb 20 2009, 08:46 AM) jupiter oso down Maybe they down it purposely, server rosak... so today no trading :SI can do the online banking, but once i click HLEbroking... it never loads or attempts to load at 0.000000001kbps. Added on February 20, 2009, 9:00 amAny major movements? it'll be pretty suck if i'm stuck out of the loop while there's a major sell off going on now. This post has been edited by eltaria: Feb 20 2009, 09:00 AM |
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Feb 20 2009, 09:09 AM
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no big movement
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Feb 20 2009, 09:14 AM
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surprisingly, pretty resilient for KLCI?
I thought the analysts will be giving sell calls and ppl will panic sell in the morning sessions after the dow support broken. But apparently, pretty calm sea.... eh. hiding a tsunami underneath? |
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Feb 20 2009, 09:19 AM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Feb 20 2009, 07:57 AM) Hi Iklatmy, I can only tell the facts,interpretation wise,up to forumers Thanks for the reply! My personal opinion is the principal official got minimum stock in hand. So, the chances they intent to sell the shares is low (if the company perform badly, the losses for them in shares also not significant). Therefore, I think most likely they intend to buy in a lot of shares (current price is very low based on my FA). Any other opinion? Maybe can catch a good deal! |
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Feb 20 2009, 09:19 AM
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Shows u what I know... KLCI headed north now... interesting indeed
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Feb 20 2009, 09:20 AM
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look at the volume la....wont drop or go up a lot one la lately.....even last time dow dropped almost 4% also same ma....
those who r still here...holding....waiting for recovery....price shoot then only sell... those who r on the sideline....fear....waiting for recovery.....then only dare to buy..... only left those who r punting n goreng2 to dictates the market hehhehehe:P |
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Feb 20 2009, 10:33 AM
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GENTING also follows DJIA ---> hit new low
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Feb 20 2009, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Feb 20 2009, 10:33 AM) GENTING also follows DJIA ---> hit new low Genting support line being breached, if + poor financial result ahead then we highly will have fresh new low, may be heading to 3.00 support level. Unless market sentiment turns quickly or good financial result is reported which I highly doubt so due to UK and GBP plunging. |
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Feb 20 2009, 10:52 AM
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yeah than genting below 3
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Feb 20 2009, 10:59 AM
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below 3 then can buy genting?
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Feb 20 2009, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 20 2009, 10:47 AM) Genting support line being breached, if + poor financial result ahead then we highly will have fresh new low, may be heading to 3.00 support level. i guess a financial report without any "major surprises" from GENTING is good enough already.... Unless market sentiment turns quickly or good financial result is reported which I highly doubt so due to UK and GBP plunging. with their latest cost overrun news on the Sentosa project, it's likely the price will be going south again..... <preparing "bullets" for average down> This post has been edited by fergie1100: Feb 20 2009, 11:02 AM |
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Feb 20 2009, 11:06 AM
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i share the same feeling, too.
forseeing Genting at 3.30 - 3.00 very soon. This post has been edited by panasonic88: Feb 20 2009, 11:07 AM |
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Feb 20 2009, 11:07 AM
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time to prepare more bullets..... hehehe....
volume sooooooooo low..... |
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Feb 20 2009, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Feb 20 2009, 11:00 AM) i guess a financial report without any "major surprises" from GENTING is good enough already.... Its not likely that they give a "major surprises" unless really posted from a +ve to big -ve report, it is unlikely to go to RM3.00 (Speculations that people really hope to happen but most of the time never happen cause by the by the time it really drop like flies some people also scare to catch the falling knife for fear of cutting themselves) with their latest cost overrun news on the Sentosa project, it's likely the price will be going south again..... <preparing "bullets" for average down> |
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Feb 20 2009, 11:23 AM
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now isnt the right time to buy Genting/Resorts cw, imo.
can die can. |
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Feb 20 2009, 11:28 AM
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my poor resort-ch breached the 0.05 support line....
should i average down more? .... |
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Feb 20 2009, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(haksam @ Feb 20 2009, 11:28 AM) my poor resort-ch breached the 0.05 support line.... Be extra careful when play with warrant, it get depreciated over time in bear market should i average down more? .... time is its enemy... |
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Feb 20 2009, 11:38 AM
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also during time like now, where alot of negative news/speculation on Genting/Resorts.
small knife cut big tree, might not work this time. This post has been edited by panasonic88: Feb 20 2009, 11:38 AM |
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Feb 20 2009, 11:40 AM
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Genting- still a lot of FF stuck with this stock, due to high FF % holding previously.
They sell whenever the price is right, or market turns bad. Write off of UK casino could be high too , another 300m as previous Q ? Buy only if for super long term. Just my 2sen opinion. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Feb 20 2009, 11:41 AM |
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Feb 20 2009, 11:44 AM
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those who buy Genting at 3.60/3.62 recently, is either.
Option A - sell now with slight loss. hold cash, wait for big slump. Option B - keep on averaging when big slump hit. |
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Feb 20 2009, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 20 2009, 11:40 AM) Genting- still a lot of FF stuck with this stock, due to high FF % holding previously. What is your "super" long term define? 10 years They sell whenever the price is right, or market turns bad. Write off of UK casino could be high too , another 300m as previous Q ? Buy only if for super long term. Just my 2sen opinion. |
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Feb 20 2009, 11:48 AM
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wah ...pana...dangerous wor u say like tat....v r expecting a big slump but in reality...v dunno wat's gonna happen heheehe wat if it investors take it positively if no 'major' losses n shares surge up...but personally i'm also expecting prices to drop after they announced the Q result hehehehe
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Feb 20 2009, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE(Junior83 @ Feb 20 2009, 11:46 AM) What is your "super" long term define? 10 years Well, buy for the purpose of collecting dividends in mind |
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Feb 20 2009, 11:57 AM
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errr... well, we just prepare for the worst lor.
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Feb 20 2009, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(haksam @ Feb 20 2009, 11:28 AM) my poor resort-ch breached the 0.05 support line.... It quite normal coz' the mother share is in red and people panic a bit.should i average down more? .... But looks like Resorts is slowly crawling back up. This post has been edited by Freelancer: Feb 20 2009, 12:00 PM |
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Feb 20 2009, 11:59 AM
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hi, all the sifus here ~
due to what news, genting is droping? sorry kinda noob, newbie here |
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Feb 20 2009, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 20 2009, 11:54 AM) Well, buy for the purpose of collecting dividends in mind should say, getting free rooms vouchers, lol |
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Feb 20 2009, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 20 2009, 11:44 AM) those who buy Genting at 3.60/3.62 recently, is either. if bought at 4.4x? Option A - sell now with slight loss. hold cash, wait for big slump. Option B - keep on averaging when big slump hit. Added on February 20, 2009, 12:05 pm QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 20 2009, 11:54 AM) Well, buy for the purpose of collecting dividends in mind GENTING oni got peanut to collect wor This post has been edited by fergie1100: Feb 20 2009, 12:05 PM |
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Feb 20 2009, 12:06 PM
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lol fergie1100, then option B lor.
fyi, my avg oso RM4.xx |
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Feb 20 2009, 12:08 PM
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Genting 3.56 jor!
(pening) wan ahh, wan ahh~~~ |
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Feb 20 2009, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 20 2009, 12:08 PM) Genting 3.56 jor! erything drop drop drop!!!!!(pening) wan ahh, wan ahh~~~ Added on February 20, 2009, 12:13 pmcome up la !!!!!!!! or stay also ok lio This post has been edited by whoknowz: Feb 20 2009, 12:13 PM |
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Feb 20 2009, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 20 2009, 12:08 PM) Genting 3.56 jor! Maybe it is good to keep for the children's education funds. (pening) wan ahh, wan ahh~~~ |
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Feb 20 2009, 12:17 PM
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wow all my previous glc punting stock ram-wa / gamuda sinking jor.
goodbye sweeties! |
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Feb 20 2009, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 20 2009, 10:47 AM) Genting support line being breached, if + poor financial result ahead then we highly will have fresh new low, may be heading to 3.00 support level. Could be the possible cause of the cost overrun for the singapore project which actually bill another 600 million S / US dollar cash extra of the projected cost. Just read it somewhere.. so is really heading down south i suppose.. break even estimated .. rm 2.50 will be a consider... pick up.. Unless market sentiment turns quickly or good financial result is reported which I highly doubt so due to UK and GBP plunging. Added on February 20, 2009, 12:30 pm QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 20 2009, 10:47 AM) Genting support line being breached, if + poor financial result ahead then we highly will have fresh new low, may be heading to 3.00 support level. Could be the possible cause of the cost overrun for the singapore project which actually bill another 600 million S / US dollar cash extra of the projected cost. Just read it somewhere.. so is really heading down south i suppose.. break even estimated .. rm 2.50 will be a consider... pick up.. Unless market sentiment turns quickly or good financial result is reported which I highly doubt so due to UK and GBP plunging. This post has been edited by lsmpro80: Feb 20 2009, 12:30 PM |
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http://www.gentinginternational.com/press_releases.htm
19 February 2009 Financial Statements For Year Ended 31 December 2008 * Genting International Plc - Company Announcement (pdf) Award Of Shares Under The Genting International Group Performance Share Scheme And Notice Of Directors’ Interest In Shares * Genting International Plc - Company Announcement (pdf) |
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Feb 20 2009, 01:37 PM
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aiyo all drop so red .. no stim jor
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Feb 20 2009, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(jvcpcv55 @ Feb 20 2009, 01:37 PM) loss from operations contributed the most huh? but the loss is lesser or greater than the previous year? This post has been edited by fergie1100: Feb 20 2009, 02:25 PM |
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Feb 20 2009, 02:27 PM
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very much lesser!
QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Feb 20 2009, 02:17 PM) loss from operations contributed the most huh? but the loss is lesser or greater than the previous year? |
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Feb 20 2009, 02:31 PM
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is genting good buy now? seems like KLSE not drop too much compare to overseas. Must be valuecap thing.
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Feb 20 2009, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Feb 20 2009, 02:27 PM) very much lesser! the "Net loss" is a lot lesser.... but what's "Total recognised loss"? |
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