all the rubber glove manufacturers seems to be up and going up only... wonder whats going on!?

if i am not mistaken is close to 3 weeks consecutive?

My 2 cents worth it will be for the previous year, so it should show a bit of drop in their turnover but shouldnt be much ....

as long as they don't open their mounth and start saying "the forecast for this year will be down by XX%" than gonna see a big slide. otherwise i reckon the bad result would signal time to move in and grab some cheap shares.

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Added on February 16, 2009, 4:01 pmi still dont get it, although i agree that prices of FCPO will hover around 1600-1700 avrg... it seems plantation stocks are very upbeat gaining 1- 2 cents almost on a daily basis for small caps, i have yet to see any significant price drop in share holding although rumour to be a slump in demand?



This post has been edited by aurora97: Feb 16 2009, 04:01 PM

market is most likely going to flat as an airport today with no direction... nothing exciting worth looking at except for Bursa Malaysia counter should be interesting since its the only counter that has not recovered much...

unlike Maybank sime Tenaga all this counters touched Rm 5 or lower be4 making a dramatic U turn... does this mean Bursa will do the same?

Share Margin Financing is good, when u have cash and enuf collateral to support the Margin Facility. Say for example u have ample paid up stocks (note the bank will discount ur shares when the receive it as deposit say a 50% haircut for example), house, land and any tangible assets.

Margin Facility are good because the bank actually finance ur purchase, if u know what ur doing 5% interest per annum lis very little compared to what ur about to gain.

On the flip side of this...
Close to 70% of bankruptcy arise out of margin facility, is margin facility good or bad u be the judge.

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I think Neo18 would be the right person to start of with a Share Margin Financing thread (not in the sense of promoting it, but as a knowledge based thread)

I know bits and pieces of things to look out for in a share margin fainancing facility.

or anyone else who wants to get the ball rolling on this can start the thred.



This post has been edited by aurora97: Feb 17 2009, 11:45 AM

problem is you dont want to the extent burden ur parents or friends or anyone around u... when a person is a bankrupt its like his hands and legs r taken away.

I dont think i need to remind u all the horror stories people whom are on the brink of bankruptcy, it is when we are there we only realize how cruel this world is and at the mercy of the bank.

for the time being we spend like there is no tomorrow!

abit on the upside i would say resort, looking at pattern it has been hovering over 2.24 so i would still consider as safe but judging from Neo big chunky facility shud be room to avrg down in any event. It him against the market forces now.

hard to say maybe he got insider newsleh ?

get rich or die trying....

finally a bloody tuesday what i have been looking forward to see... I have consolidated all my shares into cash just for this moment, see u guys in the battle field soon.

like i said earlier, 5% interest per annum... basically the interest is so low the bank is putting money in investors pockets to invest in the market... furthermore (the assumption is) the market can easily give u returns more than 10% provided ur a skillful invstor.

nevertheless the outcome is uncertain yes, we may say margin facility is the devil etc... but it could potential enable him to profit 100 fold compared to an investor whom relies on his own pool of cash and Vice versa.

The news come out now, but the effect won't be felt during this financial year but the next financial year end 2010. So if people continue to sell now they have neglected the profits made by F&N prior using the Coca Cola brand.

I believe the share price of F&N will depreciate over a long span of time, the closer to the termination date the more severe the price will drop. For the time being it looks like its bothering on oversold.

As for future concerns...

1. Who will be the lucky one to pick up Cola's distributorship? (normally target price will appreciate significantly not to mention cola actually contributed 35% of F&N's profits)

2. Or... worse case scenario Cola will be moving in to Malaysia and setting up their own facility controling distribution and manufacturing. (this is a more likely prospect)

India and china are two examples u r looking at..

the facilities r kacang putehla, i think Cola made enuf profits to setup a plant in Malaysia thats why they asked F&N to go fly kite.

FF waking up only to notice they got screwed F&N down 1.20

Morning Session
Limit down RM 2.70 (RM 6.30)

Cocaine price 'set to fall more'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7898087.stm

Short Cocaine contracts anyone?

ok if setting up a plant is not feasible and Cola would rather pair up with a brand that is already established in the market?

If for brand they might go after
Nestle, DLady

If for cost concern, go with th smaller Beverage producers...
YHS

Long shot though is...
Carlberg, Guiness
*speaking of which cola is very image sensitive, even though the brand is entrenched in every known human on this plan. Alcohol and beverage like cola simply don't mix.

Cola is only selling two product (excluding sub sub sub brands liek diet coke) the major ones Cola & Sprit.

Are this two products going to rake in the millions that would make it feasible for them to set up a plant in Malaysia?

Finally come to think of it...
In future most of our cola would be coming from prolly india, china even indonesia for that matter. Since opening a plant or passing out distributorships to F&N rivals isnt viable.

This post has been edited by aurora97: Feb 20 2009, 05:07 PM

alot of brokers offer cross border trading facilities, why need to trade in Sgleh so troublesome...

Of course u have a few limitations:
1. most noteworthy is BNM restrictions
2. brokerage charges (exp)
3. unfav conversion rates.

wow check out biport ... buy 5.250 sell 5.650 wtF>?!

on a serious note though, if Biport was 5.20 i will definately pick up some... in the long haul especially when the economy recovers this stock tends to give out gd dividend and also reasonable appreciation.

I would put it as a defensive stock..

This post has been edited by aurora97: Feb 23 2009, 02:21 PM

it seems that from day to day comparison each days low is higher than the previous day low, TM though the share price is down is gaining ground bit by bit since the crash at 2.75.

I suspect something is going... maybe dividend announcement very soon?

They've missed the Jan 09 dividend annoucement, guess is latest would be Feb 28, if no than kapal will karam

This post has been edited by aurora97: Feb 23 2009, 02:57 PM

just curious why is it bad for TMI?

sorry might have missed out on the topic, cause I am only recently monitoring TM stocks..

Personally I feel that TM stock is a bonanza dividend + capital repayment, as for its future undertakings towards 2010 i think possible TM will just fade into the background after this. Most jobs they've got are mostly gov and monopoly over telecoms industry, whilst other rivals are taking bits and pieces of TM apart slowly sucking it dry of investment opp.

TMI on the other hand, from what i know is probably fail JV abroad and being saddle with debt, but as to volume and intra day opportunity i think TMI offers good flactuation in price. fundamentals on the other hand speak different, whats its true value is truly a mistery.

i have been looking at it for the pass few days actually seeing it surge from a low of 3.04 to 3.30 than all the way back down, but if it continues this tread what I am afraid is the there seems to be no firm support line or ceiling to this counter.

Like TM before TMI, i feel that there is great opportunity for it to continue its South Bound journey. Remember TMI IPO price was Rm 7 and now RM 3, with more headwinds and bad news in waiting, it would be logical to assume that TMI would prolly hit 2.XX... until than TMI really need to buck up.

As to fundamentals, bottom line figure again emphasis to day traders very tricky.

Thx for the heads up Cherroy & Pana

Point to ponder..

thats a big ouch, unfortunately for TMI they cant print their own money unlike resort

This post has been edited by aurora97: Feb 25 2009, 02:58 PM