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viper88
post Feb 17 2009, 01:21 PM

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Went to cherating on weekend.. saw some village ppl fish netting there and caught some small fish. Got puffer fish oso. tongue.gif

Lowyat888 post this yesterday.
Look to sell into this bear market rally
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...alad16/Article/[/url]

Nowdays most profit from swing trade.. cant hold long. profit not much coz timing exit normally too fast. tongue.gif

US futures looks bad -100++..

My Jupiter remiser recommend buy on Gamuda.. at 1.89 - 1.90. More on TA call.. decide buy on own risk o...


QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 17 2009, 11:29 AM)
Anyone doing deep sea fishing today ?

Our Zelan's expert is missing for some days. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 17 2009, 04:25 PM

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I only play with my own cash. Playing margin is very risky.
Invest/trade within own means.


QUOTE(aoisky @ Feb 17 2009, 02:45 PM)
wah look like neo18 bravery in high risk investment in stock got so much salute and focuses here, for me, u investment strategy is based on ur own please do not try any margin financing in such market unless u r rich player n experience like neo else u may burn yourself in stock market
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post Feb 17 2009, 06:33 PM

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Me Jupiter remiser said watch Gamuda price.. if fall to 1.89-1.90 can grab some.
March stimulus plan will give good boost in contruction sector and Gamuda is tipped to gain from it.
Zelan oso stand good chance to rise if theres positive news on construction sector. laugh.gif

I sold off some of my Zelan stock.. made only peanuts.. doh.gif
Still have alot in hand.. average price 0.80.

QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 17 2009, 05:28 PM)
i chicken out, throw my Gamuda at a slight loss. reserving cash.

if tomolo Gamuda cheong, nasib la. tongue.gif

looking out for some some cheap vege on tomolo, aiming at Maybulk & Carlsberg particularly. steady counter ngam me more.
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post Feb 18 2009, 12:45 PM

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Lionind seems attractive for swing trade.. any1 grab today?
Reecent high about 0.68 - 0.79++

US futures up.. seems there will be a technical rebound tonight. icon_idea.gif

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post Feb 18 2009, 05:17 PM

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Ya.. Zelan strong support is at 0.79 - 0.80. Lionind strong support around 0.65 -0.66.

I aim for both Zelan and Lionind. These 2 counters good for swing trade.. buy at low price den sell for profit. rclxms.gif
I bought Zelan at 0.795 and lionind at 0.66. icon_idea.gif

You bought any Zelan shares today when drop?



QUOTE(aoisky @ Feb 18 2009, 05:03 PM)
look at zelan go up again at one point today its price drop to 0.79 now rise again 0.815
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post Feb 19 2009, 03:06 PM

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Any1 have news on Huaan?
Suddenly the buy que at 0.225 up so much.. hmm.gif
Its report coming out soon.. end of Feb. The profit should be lower coz demand less.. hmm. hmm.gif

Lionind at 0.66 now. drool.gif
Zelan 0.805 doh.gif

Us Future +20...


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post Feb 19 2009, 03:52 PM

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Wa.. u really got big balls. laugh.gif

QUOTE(alivecmh @ Feb 19 2009, 03:48 PM)
I only caught some fallen knife n managed to sell it this morning biggrin.gif
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post Feb 20 2009, 09:05 PM

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Ya... KLSE so weak.... Lionind oso drop till 0.64.. luki i sold off fast yesterday and make peanuts agin.. sweat.gif

QUOTE(aoisky @ Feb 20 2009, 04:52 PM)
almost end for today market. no eye c next shld be greener hopefully
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post Feb 21 2009, 01:21 AM

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KLSE -9.88 ... Down counter 321 Up only 149 unchg - 193..

Alot stock going down...no energy to chiong... like tat not weak den i dunno wat to say liao.. doh.gif

QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 20 2009, 09:10 PM)
how come u all said weak ar? I dun see major drop like other stock market  laugh.gif
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post Feb 23 2009, 03:51 PM

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Stimulus plan will only annouce next mth 10 mac..still far away. After annouce ady. den only can see got effect onot.
Nowdays US market keep dropping, KLSE also affected... all bleeding n weak....
Construction sector quite week coz not many new projects...

US futures up 100++ ady..

You bought Zelan also?

Osk oso get hit badly...
Only my defensive counter MPHB still holding well....

QUOTE(simplesmile @ Feb 23 2009, 02:11 PM)
Why Zelan no go up?
Zelan is in the construction industry right? And the next stimulus package will also aim at the construction industry. So I am confused why Zelan no go up.
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post Feb 27 2009, 12:34 PM

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I chk its current NTA.. is 0.75. maybe will grab some slowly.

Dang.. this week alot company report sux....

OSK drop below 0.90.. doh.gif
Resort oso drop.. doh.gif
Zelan oso drop.. doh.gif
MPHB still holding..

I only have Zelan... paper lost ady.. zzz sweat.gif

QUOTE(yeeeeko @ Feb 27 2009, 10:37 AM)
zelan also bak at 0.76, viper not getting more ah??
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post Feb 27 2009, 03:10 PM

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Ya.. its Q4 result is bad.. lost 100 million + tats why its share drop today. No detail report where the losses incurred...
either from contruction material price increase or etcs..

Zelan lowest few mths back about 0.75.. Today drop hit 0.76. back to square one where it start to climb last time.. doh.gif

Huaan, Lionind oso drop alot.....
Steel counter really get hit also.. lucky i disposed Lionind earlier... sweat.gif

QUOTE(chyaw @ Feb 27 2009, 01:26 PM)
Anyone read Zelan Q3 report (get from Bursa website)? It gives me a very bad feeling...
Zelan is one of my major counter cry.gif
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post Feb 27 2009, 04:24 PM

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Friday, February 27, 2009
Zelan slides to lowest since 2003

ZELAN Bhd, a Malaysian builder, fell to the lowest in more than five years after the company reported a loss in the fiscal third quarter as costs exceeded its budget for contracts in the Middle East.
Shares of the company dropped 3.8 per cent to 76.5 sen at 12:30 pm, set for the lowest since September 23, 2003. It’s also the worst performer on the benchmark Composite Index.
The losses “came in as a massive surprise against both consensus and our” earnings estimates, AmResearch Sdn Bhd said in a report today. “The operating environment remains challenging amid intensifying competition.

Zelan, part of Malaysia’s MMC Corp, reported a loss of RM127.9 million (US$35 million) in the fiscal third quarter ended Dec. 3.

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Ya.. went up back to 0.80 in big volumes den settle at 0.775.
I guess EPF or some big fund manager buying in alot coz Zelan price get bashed up badly today.
Its NTA is about 1.45 Jupiter - 1.37 CIMB

I bought some at 0.76 today.. but very little only..now average price is 0.798.

Any1 sapu at 0.74 just now?

QUOTE(PBB boleh @ Feb 27 2009, 04:46 PM)
Zelan went NUTS during the last 1 min of pre close, Viper, did u see?
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post Feb 27 2009, 05:48 PM

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News on Zelan from Bloomberg

http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...icle/index_html

ZELAN Bhd, a Malaysian builder, fell to the lowest in more than five years after the company reported a loss in the fiscal third quarter as costs exceeded its budget for contracts in the Middle East.

Shares of the company dropped 3.8 per cent to 76.5 sen at 12:30 pm, set for the lowest since September 23, 2003. It’s also the worst performer on the benchmark Composite Index.

The losses “came in as a massive surprise against both consensus and our” earnings estimates, AmResearch Sdn Bhd said in a report today. “The operating environment remains challenging amid intensifying competition.”

Zelan joins Malaysian contractors such as LCL Corp and WCT Bhd, which suffered losses after their jobs in the Middle East were hurt by rising costs of building materials and delays. They were among a slew of companies which ventured there to tap a building boom before the global recession set in.

Zelan, part of Malaysia’s MMC Corp, reported a loss of RM127.9 million (US$35 million) in the fiscal third quarter ended Dec. 31. Zelan didn’t provide comparative figures as its financial year-end was changed to March 31 from Jan. 31, it said in a statement yesterday.

The Kuala Lumpur-based company, with an order book of RM3.5 billion, is “highly exposed to the Middle East market,” with 62 per cent of its contracts coming from the region, AmResearch said.

The company said it will post a loss in the current financial year because of “the current financial turmoil worldwide and the increased cost of construction materials and other project expenses.” - Bloomberg
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Previoulsy Zelan share price already drop to its lowest support price due to earlier earlier fear of Middle East project cancellation. Now financial report making losses but no project cancel the fear and panic sell is back. doh.gif







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post Feb 28 2009, 03:05 PM

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Yesterday night i chk on Zelan closing transation and do some analysis.
Something is really goin on at the back for this counter Zelan .. hmm.gif

It seems that some1 trying to take advantage of the situation to make Zelan counter drop to its lowest and later accumulate it back. hmm.gif

Check its total buy and sell vol... almost the same.
Total buy & sell transaction almost 10 millions.
Last 15 mins transaction.. shoot up with big buying vol. (using the loopholes last 15 minutes buying in big)


If Zelan is making losses but there's still big buying vols goin on... what does this tell us?
Small fishes selling, big shark buying?

EPF buying to average down their earlier price
Mini budget insider news will benefit Zelan next month.
MMC accumulating Zelan from third party to privatise Zelan

I feel Zelan can buy at the range of 0.74-0.80 the lower the better as theres big support goin on the back...
Last minute can chiong up like tat is really unusual.. see Graph. I'm unable to pull out the pulse beat vol transaction rate coz already close..
Its buying rate went up so fast... just like blood pressure going to burst ady.. tongue.gif
Attached Image

Next week need to monitor this counter.
All the above is just my own view. Do own research and analysis if interested to buy in this counter.






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post Mar 1 2009, 12:00 AM

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Its from Itrade CIMB stock tracker old version.
Jupiter stock tracking is even more detail.. it have summary for each price transaction done and alert on continuous buy or sell transaction.

QUOTE(aoisky @ Feb 28 2009, 10:20 PM)
nice share here. which platform is that u r using ?
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post Mar 1 2009, 02:08 PM

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Watchout for this stock. Wah Seong.
I received recommendation to buy this stock from Jupiter 26/2/09 and CIMB last week 27/2/09.
Ya.. Jupiter is faster and its analysis report seems better to me. rclxms.gif
CIMB also not bad la.. flex.gif

This counter O&G making profit last year and solid business plan.
Have shares buy back support, EPF and Army Fund is accumulating it and theres 3 sen dividen coming on Mac ex 26/3/09.


I feel this stock have good potential for profit. So share with LYN ppl here. smile.gif
Do own analysis if decided to buy this stock. Now is Bear market...trade with care.

Attached File  Wah_Seong_Corporation_Bhd.pdf ( 696.97k ) Number of downloads: 33


Attached File  research_27022009__Waseong_.pdf ( 208.69k ) Number of downloads: 23


http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-Malaysi...441021420080324

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...85&sec=business


http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...77&sec=business

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post Mar 1 2009, 04:42 PM

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Ya...after i do some chking.. i find this stocks performance quite good even last year also can make profit.
Other company Q4 results lost in millions but this Wah Seong made 37million profit in Q4, 117 million for full year 2008.

So u bought Zelan shares when it drop tat day?

LCL drop alot also but no strong support seen yet currently...


QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 1 2009, 03:43 PM)
Hey, thx for the links. Wah Seong looks so much more attractive compared to DIALOG. Hmmmmm..... I might just want to park some money in this company in the near future.....  hmm.gif

Anyway, I'm holding back whatever bullets I have. Hope to unload my stocks if there is a pre-stimulus rally...... as predicted by various research houses, the worse is yet to come..... and super duper mega sale is also yet to come!  biggrin.gif
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post Mar 2 2009, 12:09 PM

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I'm still holding on Zelan. Bought abit only some at 0.70.
Last Fri bought at 0.76. Now average to 0.797.. still at paper lost.
Some ppl throwing zelan shares to push it down but later buy back in big vol at cheaper price.

From my previous experience with UEMBLDR.. its shares drop from 1.90+ to 1.60 , 1.30 . den drop all the way till 0.90++
But later slowly climb back 1.36...then UEMGRP privatise it at 1.42.

There are some similarity between Zelan and Uembldr...

Decide on ur own risk if u wanna swing trade..

QUOTE(eltaria @ Mar 2 2009, 10:40 AM)
Anyone cutting losses? or keeping it for the long run?

Seems like this week stocks will be beaten down. 5-10% drop more to be expected?


Added on March 2, 2009, 10:41 amViper, how bout your zelan? You're swing trading right, cut loss dee? or holding?
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