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post Nov 5 2008, 12:41 AM, updated 16y ago

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Anyone here studied or studying in overseas now such as America, Australia, UK,Canada or anywhere around the globe?
Mind sharing your experience with us? as in how are the people over there? their lifestyle? how are they treating you? are there any racists? do you have alot of friends? are most of your friends your race(chinese,malays,indians) instead of white people and black people? are you happy with your decision to study overseas? do you regret for not staying back in Malaysia to continue your studies? do you get homesick every now and then? what's the difference between studying in overseas and studying locally?

List out what course, what college, which state, which country that your studying or had studied in and share your experience with everyone.

Come on everyone share your experience! rclxms.gif

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Go overseas of course if you have the opportunity to do so.
Bear in mind that not everyone will be as lucky as those going abroad to further their study. It will broaden up your mind.
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have shared. couldnt be bothered to share AGAIN tongue.gif.

there are topics relating to each country of studies. just browse those topics, u'll get the idea.
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don't go to russia. they are racists
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QUOTE(CherryD @ Nov 5 2008, 12:41 AM)
Anyone here studied or studying in overseas now such as America, Australia, UK,Canada or anywhere around the globe?
Mind sharing your experience with us? as in how are the people over there? their lifestyle? how are they treating you? are there any racists? do you have alot of friends? are most of your friends your race(chinese,malays,indians) instead of white people and black people? are you happy with your decision to study overseas? do you regret for not staying back in Malaysia to continue your studies? do you get homesick every now and then? what's the difference between studying in overseas and studying locally?

List out what course, what college, which state, which country that your studying or had studied in and share your experience with everyone.

[B]Come on everyone share your experience!  rclxms.gif
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my answered simplied.

studied, UK.

ppl over here? good, friendly, generally way well mannered compared to msia, good customer service, smile, 'cheers, thanks, please, excuse me, pardon me, sorry' are words you wont miss in everyday life.

their lifestyle? some eat in really healthy way, some are drunk 4/7 days, lazy yet efficient and punctual and will not overdo. my lifestyle? healthy yet boring.

treating me so good so far. have met few addicts too, treating me like god since i have to give them drug.

racist? wherever you go, there is. but why should i care, not that i am affected anyway.

friends? plenty, same race but also whites (coursemate, housemate, collegua, random friends' friends)

yes i do. learned plenty of stuff, experienced plenty of stuff that you will never get in local environment.

regret? no, not at all.

homesick? no, except for food.

difference is huge in term of development of soft skills e.g. critical thinking, communication skills, personal skills etc etc besides the way the education is delivered if compare to msia.

yes like said by azarimy, visit those thread e.g studying in aust, studying in UK, studying in US, and you will get the ideas of studying overseas if compare to msia.


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QUOTE(youngkies @ Nov 5 2008, 05:40 AM)
my answered simplied.

studied, UK.

ppl over here? good, friendly, generally way well mannered compared to msia, good customer service, smile, 'cheers, thanks, please, excuse me, pardon me, sorry' are words you wont miss in everyday life.

their lifestyle? some eat in really healthy way, some are drunk 4/7 days, lazy yet efficient and punctual and will not overdo. my lifestyle? healthy yet boring.

treating me so good so far. have met few addicts too, treating me like god since i have to give them drug.

racist? wherever you go, there is. but why should i care, not that i am affected anyway.

friends? plenty, same race but also whites (coursemate, housemate, collegua, random friends' friends)

yes i do. learned plenty of stuff, experienced plenty of stuff that you will never get in local environment.

regret? no, not at all.

homesick? no, except for food.

difference is huge in term of development of soft skills e.g. critical thinking, communication skills, personal skills etc etc besides the way the education is delivered if compare to msia.

yes like said by azarimy, visit those thread e.g studying in aust, studying in UK, studying in US, and you will get the ideas of studying overseas if compare to msia.
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Thanks man! That's the kinda answer im looking for unlike some other replies here. sweat.gif Anyone else willing to share your experience?
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study oversea better than m'sia
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QUOTE(malfunx @ Nov 5 2008, 06:37 AM)
don't go to russia. they are racists
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There are racism in every part of the world, even in Malaysia. Even though Australia is rated as the friendliest country in the world, there are still plenty of racists around, racism towards Asians is common throughout the world

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The best thing you should do is to accept that there are never going to be a level playing field anywhere in this world and racialism exist everywhere. Accept that and move on with your life.


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QUOTE(kanzakicyn @ Nov 5 2008, 01:32 PM)
study oversea better than m'sia
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Many Malaysian students oversea stick together like glue so as to re-create their own mini-Malaysia. If so, why bother go oversea?

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QUOTE(malfunx @ Nov 5 2008, 02:37 AM)
don't go to russia. they are racists
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It's not that bad there.

Even racism exist in Malaysia itself.

Ask yourself, how do you look at Bangladeshis and Indonesians...
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malaysia is a multiracial country. we don't view foreigners as that bad, at least for me, except those stupid ones who commit crimes.

but in russia, racism lingers among its citizens. its just that they dont have the guts to voice their feelings. even a fruit vendor got gangbanged and killed in public, just bcoz of his skin colour. the accused had been released. also, a 9 year old girl was killed while taking a walk with her father while the father was being beaten.

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Depends on how deep your pocket is. But studying abroad does help you look at things in a different perspective.
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Racism, is everywhere. Ignore it, as far as I know, it hasn't got to a violent level, unless of course, you are the one creating problems. There are some rotten apples but mostly on the whole, you can become friends with anyone (refering to locals, there)

I feel blessed to have the opportunity to study overseas. Broadens your mind, perspective & overall outlook on life. I used to get homesick a lot in the beginning, mostly because of food & families. Now, I think sometimes I get the opposite of homesick, what do you call that eh? And uh I was in the UK.

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I'm studying in U.S

People: Most Americans are friendly, but this depends on where you are. If you're in New York or Los Angeles where the demographics are more diverse, people are more friendly. Racism therefore will tend to be less. On the other hand, if you're in some small cities, where the populations of immigrants are low, you probably will experience more racism & stereotype. If you're in big city, don't worry about racism, people there are friendly as they are more exposed to the world & they meet more people. Your friends will be apart from you & you have to do anything on yourself & for yourself. Don't expect to be spoonfed when you're abroad. The fact is, nobody is gonna give a shit about you when you're overseas. Trust me, this happened to me. I gotta do everything myself, but on the bright side it made me a strong person & made me realize independent.

Friends: When you study abroad, it is another transition in your life. You have to realize that you WILL lose some of your best friends or buddies. No doubt about that. Don't expect you new friends to be the same as your old friends. I realize this, I still miss those times that I hung out with my college buddies in Inti. Those were the days. You will meet people from all corners of the world, but again don't expect them to treat you the same as your high school buddies treated you, it ain't gonna happen. Meeting new people is always fun. You get to exchange ideas & share your culture. I always like to share our M'sian culture with Americans & I would learn their culture. Most of my friends are M'sian & they are the one that I hang out the most. I've got people saying that when they're abroad, they don't mix with M'sian. That is just WRONG vmad.gif . You WILL tend to mix more with M'sian because we're of the same background & culture. Please don't try to be different by only hanging out with local (i.e British, Americans etc) just to be cool or you hang out with them because you're in their country. I don't believe in this bullshit. I think you should mix with whoever you feel comfortable with.

Culture: You will learn different cultures & practices. You will see guys kissing & holding hands, you will see girls kissing & touching backside, you will see people making out in the airport. These are just some of the culture shock that you will encounter when you're abroad. It will widen your perspective IMO. Let you see the world & not only hide under the shell (Katak dibawah tempurung). Once you see these kinda culture, you will slowly get used to it. Every country have different jargons for everything. For example, in M'sia we call it toilet, but in U.S we call it restroom, toilet refers to the toilet bowl. These are just some things you will learn as you progress. As much exposure as you get from abroad, I always tell my friends please DON'T forget your root & where you came from. Don't try to be different when you're back in M'sia by speaking British accent or American accent, this pissed me off. Just be yourself. Studied in overseas doesn't mean you're more superior than people who studied local.

Homesick: Maybe the first month you'll feel home sick & lonely. But as you progress & get to know people, time will fly. Before I know it, I'm already 3 years here in U.S & will be graduating in Dec. Its what you do to overcome homesickness. You will get over it over time & your parents will also leave you alone & don't call you every night. I'd say don't worry about this issue too much. I'm sure as you know more people, things like clubbin, traveling, partying, meeting chicks thumbup.gif will keep you busy & forget about home. I don't mean totally forget but not think about home for while.


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I do agree with this statement. Once you're expose abroad, your mentality & perception will change. The way you see thing will be from different angle instead of one.

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It has its pros and cons to study oversea. Study local can definitely save you a lot of money. You could have more chances to come close with family. Oversea education quality generally is better than local.

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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Nov 13 2008, 10:23 AM)
It has its pros and cons to study oversea. Study local can definitely save you a lot of money. You could have more chances to come close with family. Oversea education quality generally is better than local.
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No doubt. Better quality comes with a price. More exposure rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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True, studying overseas gives you more exposure and also more experience in the REAL WORLD, but it largely depends on what you're there for. Look at what you need to study first...
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If you've been to overseas to study, the way you see things will be different. As in from different perspective. For some people, their personality will change, usually to the positive. I guess it depends on individual.
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Financial background should be your first consideration above anything else when you are deciding whether to further your studies overseas. If your parents can afford without much burden, then you are fortunate enough and may take this opportunity to broaden your mind. If you have to undergo a tight budget when studying abroad (like you need to take part-time job, parents sell a house/ loan), then you definitely should not.
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I am a local uni student and had the opportunity to study with harvard, stanford students under lecturers from harvard and other great universities. To me, there are indeed differences in both way of learning.

eventually, i think what is most important is to choose the way that makes you feel comfortable the most. You financial status, your academic result. If you used to have nasi kandar for supper, stay and study locally. but if you wish to survive in an environment for few years and you feel happy, excited with that, go oversea.

One fact, most people don't regret studying oversea doesn't mean that most people regret study locally. I, myself do not have less exposure compare to those oversea grad. It is a matter of your attitude.
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Thanks for the effort for typing so much and detail man!!! thumbup.gif Thanks. Well said. I'll take note of that. thumbup.gif

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laugh.gif That's a lotta info, something you can't simply get off Wikipedia I guess.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(maxtek @ Nov 15 2008, 01:57 AM)
laugh.gif That's a lotta info, something you can't simply get off Wikipedia I guess.. laugh.gif
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my fwen studying at scotland..at first it is hard for her to be friend with scotland student..they dont like foreigners too much..but if u got gud attitude..then it would be no problem.

studying overseas broaden ur mind. they're different. the way lecturer assist student also different,,in case much better biggrin.gif
but studying abroad cost lots of money n high pressure for those who have been sponsored.
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Yes financial support is the 1st priority. Also, prepare to fork out more that the projected amount. Just in case some extra expenses pop up.
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Depends on the university you are going to. If you are going to some unknown college compared to malaysian university it is better to study in malaysia. U can save your money and the level of USM or UM is not that bad. But if u going to some recognise universitites or college abroad then it is good as u gain the xperience and the knowledge
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though my uni is ranked top 50 in the world, i think many of my lecturers are useless.
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Got this kinda student, sure la all lecturer useless tongue.gif
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LOL if u dont get to use ur lecturers doesnt mean they're useless wink.gif.
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QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Nov 15 2008, 07:16 PM)
Got this kinda student, sure la all lecturer useless tongue.gif
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partly true la
QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 15 2008, 07:49 PM)
LOL if u dont get to use ur lecturers doesnt mean they're useless wink.gif.
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put it this way. by the 3rd week, 60% attendance in 1course per sem. 80% attendance in 2 courses per sem. there is usually 1 good lecturer per sem.
40 % of those attending are either playing laptop, eating , chatting

among key weaknesses
- poor english
- bad pronounciation
- boring lecture
- lecturer reading entirely from notes

yes they are good in knowledge, but if they cant teach, why bother being lecturers?

mechanical engineering students lol. we learn ourselves everything. no idea what the fees are for.
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QUOTE(EmperorMeng @ Nov 15 2008, 08:04 PM)

yes they are good in knowledge, but if they cant teach, why bother being lecturers?

mechanical engineering students lol. we learn ourselves everything. no idea what the fees are for.
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EmperorMeng,

<<yes they are good in knowledge, but if they cant teach, why bother being lecturers?>>

1) Is it they cannot teach or you cannot learn??

2) If someone has the knowledge, why "TEACHING" is the ONLY way to get the knowledge out from them??

Think outside the box. There is more than ONE way to get knowledge from someone than NORMAL teaching method. Can the person show you how to solve some problem??

On the other hand, if the person does not have the knowledge, than, it is HOPELESS.

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if can,really try to go abroad rather than studying in local uni
local colleges in m'sia r much more better than local uni
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Nov 15 2008, 08:41 PM)
EmperorMeng,

<<yes they are good in knowledge, but if they cant teach, why bother being lecturers?>>

1) Is it they cannot teach or you cannot learn??

2) If someone has the knowledge, why "TEACHING" is the ONLY way to get the knowledge out from them??

Think outside the box.  There is more than ONE way to get knowledge from someone than NORMAL teaching method.  Can the person show you how to solve some problem??

On the other hand, if the person does not have the knowledge, than, it is HOPELESS.

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A1. look at attendance la . with some lecturers, the attendance is almost 100% . why? coz attending their lecture is nt a waste of time. while some lecturers comes in the 1st lecture with this:
1. buy the text book
2. spend 10 hrs a week study urself
3. do all tutorial.

and proceed to read his OHP laugh.gif

A2. depends entirely on subjects. we have a fair share of all. this is just academic wise. there should be many other reasons tht can make one to choose to study overseas smile.gif


@ azarimy. ur also a lecturer smile.gif thumbup.gif


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if can,really try to go abroad rather than studying in local uni
local colleges in m'sia r much more better than local uni
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how so?


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QUOTE(EmperorMeng @ Nov 16 2008, 12:04 AM)
partly true la

put it this way. by the 3rd week, 60% attendance in 1course per sem. 80% attendance in 2 courses per sem. there is usually 1 good lecturer per sem.
40 % of those attending are either playing laptop, eating , chatting

among key weaknesses
- poor english
- bad pronounciation
- boring lecture
- lecturer reading entirely from notes


yes they are good in knowledge, but if they cant teach, why bother being lecturers?

mechanical engineering students lol. we learn ourselves everything. no idea what the fees are for.
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I can accept lecturers who don't speak good English, but not lecturers who are unprepared and only read entirely from the slides. I have one lecturer like that this semester and believe it or not, I think he's a goner next semester.

the power of Vic Uni students or NZ students tongue.gif

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QUOTE(willa @ Nov 15 2008, 01:11 PM)
if can,really try to go abroad rather than studying in local uni
local colleges in m'sia r much more better than local uni
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i would love for u to further define ur statement.

lets start with "IPTA are in the THES ranking while IPTS are nowhere to be found".

QUOTE(EmperorMeng @ Nov 15 2008, 01:16 PM)
A1. look at attendance la . with some lecturers, the attendance is almost 100% . why? coz attending their lecture is nt a waste of time. while some lecturers comes in the 1st lecture with this:
1. buy the text book
2. spend 10 hrs a week study urself
3. do all tutorial.

and proceed to read his OHP laugh.gif

A2. depends entirely on subjects. we have a fair share of all. this is just academic wise. there should be many other reasons tht can make one to choose to study overseas smile.gif

@ azarimy. ur also a lecturer smile.gif thumbup.gif
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err... yes? not sure what u're implying here tongue.gif.

relating to my earlier statement, in my experience, i've taught students who strongly prefers to work alone/independently. i have no problems with that, as long as they deliver at the end of the project or semester. but if the same student complains that "lecturers are useless", memang makan gua punya kaki lor laugh.gif

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how so?


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I can accept lecturers who don't speak good English, but not lecturers who are unprepared and only read entirely from the slides. I have one lecturer like that this semester and believe it or not, I think he's a goner next semester.

the power of Vic Uni students or NZ students tongue.gif
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if u look at the architectural association (AA) school in london, the students have an election to elect their head of school. u cant get any stronger than that wink.gif. i've seen first hand how they toppled a top european architect who was the head of school back in 2004 in favor of a new, more radical architect. if only malaysia could vote their own prime minister... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 16 2008, 02:07 AM)
i would love for u to further define ur statement.

lets start with "IPTA are in the THES ranking while IPTS are nowhere to be found".
err... yes? not sure what u're implying here tongue.gif.

relating to my earlier statement, in my experience, i've taught students who strongly prefers to work alone/independently. i have no problems with that, as long as they deliver at the end of the project or semester. but if the same student complains that "lecturers are useless", memang makan gua punya kaki lor laugh.gif
if u look at the architectural association (AA) school in london, the students have an election to elect their head of school. u cant get any stronger than that wink.gif. i've seen first hand how they toppled a top european architect who was the head of school back in 2004 in favor of a new, more radical architect. if only malaysia could vote their own prime minister... biggrin.gif
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Now now... You know how our political system works in Malaysia. laugh.gif
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In my opinion, being able to study oversea is the greatest experience in my life so far. There are just a lot of opportunities and resources which are not available in Malaysia. For instance, most of the lecturers I had are experts in their respective fields. They had their own researches and wrote their own textbooks. Having them to teach you what they know is incredible, but of course, just like any other places, there will be some profs who are not good at teaching.

Americans are really into what they are interested in learning. I have been exposed to so many different classes which have no direct connection to my major. This is actually part of the requirements to graduate. Unlike in Malaysia, we have tried so hard to predict and pave our paths since high school. We are usually more afraid of exploring other opportunities and interests.

Working in teams is another awesome experience. You get to work with so many different people from different background (majors, countries, races, religions etc.)

In term of academy, in my opinion, classes are much tougher here but of course, this varies according to the schools you go to. Personally, I definitely feel that I have been challenged much more than I would have been if I were in a local university back in Malaysia.

Overall, it is definitely an experience which makes you grow as a person and re-think your way of life. We have been spoon fed by our education system for way too long (yes I know, cliche), so studying oversea can really open your eyes to how you should approach your future.

Of course, all of the above will only happen if you are willing to open yourself to possibilities. If you choose to cling to your old self and only mingle with other Malaysians in your school, it will just be the same as studying in Malaysia, just at a different location.

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Yeah I agree with the 1st part of your comment. U.S have more exposure & you'll see things from different aspect. Everything is so modern & fast paced here. You just gotta get yourself into the right group & mix around. If you have bad influence & don't know how to control yourself, you'll end up in a junk. Don't forget what is your purpose studying abroad; to earn a quality education & expose yourself to situation that money can't buy.

On the other hand, one must not forget their roots, where they came from. No offense, but I'm kinda against those who are "trying to be American". Speaking U.S accent in M'sia, having hand gestures like no other & all sorts of crazy stuff. Yes, you're exposed. But why can't you just be yourself & speak like a normal person. Having quality education abroad doesn't make you a higher social status person. I believe everyone is equal.

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Yeah I agree with the 1st part of your comment. U.S have more exposure & you'll see things from different aspect. Everything is so modern & fast paced here. You just gotta get yourself into the right group & mix around. If you have bad influence & don't know how to control yourself, you'll end up in a junk. Don't forget what is your purpose studying abroad; to earn a quality education & expose yourself to situation that money can't buy.

On the other hand, one must not forget their roots, where they came from. No offense, but I'm kinda against those who are "trying to be American". Speaking U.S accent in M'sia, having hand gestures like no other & all sorts of crazy stuff. Yes, you're exposed. But why can't you just be yourself & speak like a normal person. Having quality education abroad doesn't make you a higher social status person. I believe everyone is equal.
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Yes when you speak with them, of course you'll have the accent. Can't help it, even I myself have it. But when you're around your root, you can still switch back to Man-glish. Trust me, you can.

Unless you go to primary school there, then I understand. Then its almost impossible to change.
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P.I.M.P. how true, I really can't stand some Malaysians, who can't even speak good English but trying to talk like a Kiwi. Slangs, accent, how fake. I can accept if you speak like that to a Kiwi, but to me? Puhlez
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We can't change our accent even we have been living in overseas for more than 10 years unless we move there when we are small, like before primary school. We have our own Malaysian accent, this can't change. The only way we can change is to speak "proper" English or follow their way of speaking (means use the expression they usually use) in our accent. They can understand as well as long as it is English, not Manglish. It is not necessary to pretend to have a certain accent.
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Yeah thats right. Some just wanna show they have better English by maybe adding some accent. So fake. Why can't they just be themselves. I always tell my friends, if you guys come back from overseas & we meet up, whoever speak accent with me I'm gonna slap the heck out of you vmad.gif mad.gif . You guys better have your "lah"s behind. I cannot those those wannabe's. So fake.


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Unless you're in overseas since you're like a baby then its understandable. Not when you're there when you're 21yrs old. C'mon you still have your root. Dun be a faker. And people understand when you speak proper English without those "li" and "lah"s behind.


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The accent you gain is just for your experience in communicating with your professors & other friends. Not for one to come home with accent & start looking down at people.

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Anyone here studied or studying in overseas now such as America, Australia, UK,Canada or anywhere around the globe?
Mind sharing your experience with us? as in how are the people over there? their lifestyle? how are they treating you? are there any racists? do you have alot of friends? are most of your friends your race(chinese,malays,indians) instead of white people and black people? are you happy with your decision to study overseas? do you regret for not staying back in Malaysia to continue your studies? do you get homesick every now and then? what's the difference between studying in overseas and studying locally?

List out what course, what college, which state, which country that your studying or had studied in and share your experience with everyone.

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Been in Perth, Australia for 7 years now (2009 will be my eighth) and have been here since Year 12 (thats Form 6 back in Malaysia).

The people here are generally nice, friendly and helpful. When going to the checkout stand expect to get at least a "Hi" or "How do you do?" from the checkout chick or guy smile.gif If you're lost or just need directions or information in general, people are usually more than willing to help. This was the first striking contrast I've experienced compared to back in M'sia.

Lifestyle here is pretty laid back. We work Mondays to Fridays (though Friday is thought as slack Fridays tongue.gif) and we enjoy the weekend at the beaches, city, clubs and pubs. And as work unions here are pretty strong, the working lifestyle is also easy going and pays decently in comparison to the cost of living. 2 hours work can pretty much buy you a really fancy dinner somewhere.

Racists? Well in my time here I've yet to meet any. The aboriginals might mistake you for Japs, and that might cause some problems, especially with older aboriginals. With the Australians however, there's always that first hesitation to socialise. I find this mainly because they don't know if we are accustomed to their way (talk the talk, walk the walk. Speaking decent English would be a start). If you break that first ice block, you'd find they are pretty easy people to be friends with. My group of friends range from Malaysians and Singaporeans to Australians and South Africans. And we all share a keg after work. smile.gif

My decision to go overseas was pretty much not a choice at all. I've scored decently well in SPM (4As) but was rejected out of most local higher education institutions expect for Lim Kok Wing and a few other private institutes. A visit to an Australian education expo pretty much sealed that decision. Do I regret it? Absolutely not! smile.gif Studying here has really made me see the bigger picture of the world and definitely gave me invaluable experiences.

Homesick? Initially, sure. But as time went by that grew less and less. Right now the only thing I miss is the cheap shopping and great food biggrin.gif Now just earning Aussie dollars to spend back home feels pretty great!

I studied and graduated as a Bachelor of Information Technology, specialising in Networking and Communication from TAFE/Curtin. Now I work for an IT solutions company as a Network Engineer. I did actually return to Malaysia to work for about a year, but the meager salary offered combined with the fact Aussie dollar is stronger sent me packing back smile.gif

I always encourage anyone with the opportunity to, to leave their comfort zone behind and explore another region of your planet. And obviously I recommend Perth as it has the lowest cost of living between the major cities of Australia and its proximity to Malaysia.

Hope that gave a few people some insight to studying in Australia, feel free to drop a message if you'd like to ask more. biggrin.gif
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P.I.M.P. how true, I really can't stand some Malaysians, who can't even speak good English but trying to talk like a Kiwi. Slangs, accent, how fake. I can accept if you speak like that to a Kiwi, but to me? Puhlez
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Yeah thats right. Some just wanna show they have better English by maybe adding some accent. So fake. Why can't they just be themselves. I always tell my friends, if you guys come back from overseas & we meet up, whoever speak accent with me I'm gonna slap the heck out of you  vmad.gif  mad.gif . You guys better have your "lah"s behind. I cannot those those wannabe's. So fake.
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Unless you're in overseas since you're like a baby then its understandable. Not when you're there when you're 21yrs old. C'mon you still have your root. Dun be a faker. And people understand when you speak proper English without those "li" and "lah"s behind.


Added on November 16, 2008, 5:16 pmWanna add a lil bit more before I go to bed, 3.15am here now.

The accent you gain is just for your experience in communicating with your professors & other friends. Not for one to come home with accent & start looking down at people.
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Thanks Caedus for sharing your experience with us. Keep it coming people. rclxms.gif
I'm still choosing which university to study after my spm, maybe Purdue or North Carolina.I'm studying Business and IT btw, taking ADP in Taylors College, 2+2... Any recommendation? smile.gif

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Anyone here studied or studying in overseas now such as America, Australia, UK,Canada or anywhere around the globe?
Mind sharing your experience with us? as in how are the people over there? their lifestyle? how are they treating you? are there any racists? do you have alot of friends? are most of your friends your race(chinese,malays,indians) instead of white people and black people? are you happy with your decision to study overseas? do you regret for not staying back in Malaysia to continue your studies? do you get homesick every now and then? what's the difference between studying in overseas and studying locally?

List out what course, what college, which state, which country that your studying or had studied in and share your experience with everyone.

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I love it and hate it here. Purdue has the largest international student population in the nation I should think. There are about 250 Malaysians here, and we make the top ten list of large international populations here at Purdue joining China, India and Korea. It's nice here most of the time, except if you can't handle weather that fluctuates like crazy then don't come here. The roads are awful because of the weather. I like it here because of the freedom. If anything, you should live in the dorms for at least a year. Make sure you do your homework and look at the fees, because I know some Malaysians who are attending Purdue and are transferring next year because it's too expensive (bodohnya).

Racism isn't a problem here, because like I said Purdue has the largest international student population in the nation. I have a lot of friends, my roommate and boyfriend say I know wayy too many Asians on campus xD I don't hang out with the Malaysians here because they all stick together and only ever hang out with each other (or at least that's my impression but whenever I bump into them, they're always in the same groups). I've been studying overseas since Form 4 - I finished high school in Japan. My parents accepted the assignment because they wanted my brother and me to have an equal opportunity at education, unlike what you get in Malaysia. I don't get homesick, because I've been trying to get out from under my parents' roof for a while now.

I think the real difference between studying overseas and locally is the pricing and the standard that you receive. Also, I'm doing the full four years overseas, and do not understand this twinning business that most Malaysians seem to like so much.

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I love it and hate it here. Purdue has the largest international student population in the nation I should think. There are about 250 Malaysians here, and we make the top ten list of large international populations here at Purdue joining China, India and Korea. It's nice here most of the time, except if you can't handle weather that fluctuates like crazy then don't come here. The roads are awful because of the weather. I like it here because of the freedom. If anything, you should live in the dorms for at least a year. Make sure you do your homework and look at the fees, because I know some Malaysians who are attending Purdue and are transferring next year because it's too expensive (bodohnya).

Racism isn't a problem here, because like I said Purdue has the largest international student population in the nation. I have a lot of friends, my roommate and boyfriend say I know wayy too many Asians on campus xD I don't hang out with the Malaysians here because they all stick together and only ever hang out with each other (or at least that's my impression but whenever I bump into them, they're always in the same groups). I've been studying overseas since Form 4 - I finished high school in Japan. My parents accepted the assignment because they wanted my brother and me to have an equal opportunity at education, unlike what you get in Malaysia. I don't get homesick, because I've been trying to get out from under my parents' roof for a while now.

I think the real difference between studying overseas and locally is the pricing and the standard that you receive. Also, I'm doing the full four years overseas, and do not understand this twinning business that most Malaysians seem to like so much.
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Friend, you finished your Form 5 in Japan, so this means you are more well-to-do than the majority. Twinning programmes are necessary because that way we can save on the living expenses for the first 2 years we're still in Msia.

As for studying in the States, I'm considering it and have recieved many positive comments. The general perception seems to be: Anywhere but here.
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Friend, you finished your Form 5 in Japan, so this means you are more well-to-do than the majority. Twinning programmes are necessary because that way we can save on the living expenses for the first 2 years we're still in Msia.

As for studying in the States, I'm considering it and have recieved many positive comments. The general perception seems to be: Anywhere but here.
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well, I don't understand how it works that's all. Some of them do 3+1 and some do 2+2 or whatever it is ... and some people who do it lord it over me that they've studied overseas. Uh huh.

But yes, the consensus is "anywhere but here" for malaysians. smile.gif Most malaysians prefer the UK though.
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We can't change our accent even we have been living in overseas for more than 10 years unless we move there when we are small, like before primary school. We have our own Malaysian accent, this can't change. The only way we can change is to speak "proper" English or follow their way of speaking (means use the expression they usually use) in our accent. They can understand as well as long as it is English, not Manglish. It is not necessary to pretend to have a certain accent.
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I have to say, you are quite wrong on that point... I've got a friend who spoke broken english and always had that ahbeng accent. The minute he moved to UK to further his studies (A-Levels in UK), he changed. He came back only about 3 months after being there, and next thing I know, he was another chinese-turned-gweilou... laugh.gif

But it all still depends on the person, how much does he/she adapts to the environment; to blend in with that silly accent or not... wink.gif
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Depends on individual. Again, a lot of factors taken into account. Like who you mix with, how often you mix, what you do during your free time. But its cool thumbup.gif thumbup.gif. Just don't use some foreign accent in M'sia & try to be different.
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i think university rankings are pretty useless in most cases.

i say go overseas, just for the exposure. what u study would be roughly the same anywhere but exposure,culture would be very good experience. and for engineering, research/thesis is another consideration.
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That's cool. It happens. I get comments from other Americans telling me they don't believe I'm from M'sia. I'm not praising myself here. But I've been speaking English all my life, except with my parents. So I guess that's part of the reason I'm okay with English.

But for those who would like to improve their English, they must not fear to talk to others even with their broken English. After some time, your English will improve. rclxm9.gif
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That's cool. It happens. I get comments from other Americans telling me they don't believe I'm from M'sia. I'm not praising myself here. But I've been speaking English all my life, except with my parents. So I guess that's part of the reason I'm okay with English.

But for those who would like to improve their English, they must not fear to talk to others even with their broken English. After some time, your English will improve. rclxm9.gif
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Haha. Me too, then I told them i'm not a citizen.

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I'm living off campus. Rent an apartment. Living with another M'sian here. There are pros & cons living on & off campus. Kinda late now, lazy to type. I'll leave it to spunkberry to comment. Maybe I'll add to it.

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Btw are you guys living in dorms/hostel/or renting rooms? if you're living in a dorm/hostel whose your roommate? you guys get along well? how was ur first experience when u first met your roomate. Do you go like : "Heyyy whats up man! I'm ???, how are you...where you from?" u know stuff like that...
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Wow, sounds like some cat fight you & your ex-roommate have there. Well, arguments happen when you live with others. Everyone have different living habits & lifestyle.
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yeah oh well. I get along great with my roommate this year smile.gif
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when i was studying in london, i have 2 flatmates: a guy from jordan of palestinian descent, and a spanish guy of japanese descent.

we get along great. i'm still close with both of them. the palestinian guy studied archaeology, quite good looking, and also the vice warden in the place i was staying. every other night he'll bring home a different girl, and occasionally we can girls screaming from his room.

the japanese guy, on the other hand, is desperate for a girlfriend. he speaks english, spanish and japanese fluently, and a little bit of french and german. he is very social, but could never get a girl home. he's not that bad looking either. always hangout my room talking about his miserable social life.

all of us get along just fine. we clearly define our boundaries, especially on food. since both the palestinian and i are muslim, we compartmentalize our fridge from the jap's. he's not a big fan of cooking, most of the time i cook stuffs for him, coz it's easier that i dont have to worry about halal stuffs.

however, the jap moved out after 8 months. in came a PRC guy who could barely speak english. somehow that made him less social with us. he invaded our fridge with alot of pork, used our utensils to cook pork and so on. we repeatedly explained to him about our "needs", he seems oblivious and always assumed that we're trying to convert him to Islam hahaha!

i didnt stay long after that. after finishing my masters, i quickly moved out. i heard my palestinian friend kicked him out of the flat not long after that biggrin.gif.
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Wow I bet the Palestine guy was having a time of his life. Mueahahahaha. Everynight different girl screaming unsure.gif unsure.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif . So "strong" ka?

Poor thing your Jap friend. He must have got some Jap chicks too right? icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

Interesting house mates you got there.

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Wow I bet the Palestine guy was having a time of his life. Mueahahahaha. Everynight different girl screaming unsure.gif  unsure.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif . So "strong" ka?

Poor thing your Jap friend. He must have got some Jap chicks too right? icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif

Interesting house mates you got there.
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i dunno what sort of mojo the palestinian guy has. i'm more curious as to how he chat up the girls before convincing them to come home in the first place.

the jap guy now back in japan. he has a girl friend now, since he's not bad looking. hell, he speaks 5 different languages and has a masters in embryology. but he was miserable during the few months he was in london. and japanese chicks? overrated lah. it's VERY hard to find the ones that is hot.
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i dunno what sort of mojo the palestinian guy has. i'm more curious as to how he chat up the girls before convincing them to come home in the first place.

the jap guy now back in japan. he has a girl friend now, since he's not bad looking. hell, he speaks 5 different languages and has a masters in embryology. but he was miserable during the few months he was in london. and japanese chicks? overrated lah. it's VERY hard to find the ones that is hot.
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Wow speak 5 different language & a masters in embryology still cannot get a girl? doh.gif doh.gif Mana boleh? If I were him, I'd make the most out of what I have. Especially with 5 different language, sure can "lure" girls from 5 different countries icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif . Best if he got British accent, girls love it wub.gif wub.gif . I think Brit accent is do darn cool.


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I'm with you. I particularly hate those Jap chicks posing with their peace fingers & trying to act cute. You know what I'm saying. I think that is annoying when they trying to act cute with their giggles & peace sign mad.gif vmad.gif


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Which state you're in again? Lost track.

I guess we're the only few active one in the wee hours. Hehe. azarimy from UK. Also midnight poster


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1) Which part of US are u studying in?
2) Do u mix with the white and black ppl besides during college time? like partying, clubbing or go to the mall stuff like that?
3) The first time you went there how did u feel? I mean you totally have no friends at all and you don't know anybody... was it hard at first trying to make new frens? especially with the whites and blacks? Was it hard communicating with them on accent wise and topics like movies,music,gaming etc? do you guys click?
4) Did you took the ADP 2+2? Are you studying Business?
5) U living in a campus or where?


1) I'm studying in U of Nebraska Lincoln. For those who don't know where this is, I don't blame you. I get that alot

2) mostly I mix with whites & M'sians here. Hardly with blacks. Same goes for partying. Generally, I like to mix with everybody. Beside, when a few shots of tequila kicks in, you'll be the friendliest person on earth. Don't just stuck yourself mixing with only 1 group, try to mis around & get to know more people. One thing for sure is, there will be culture barrier when you try to mix with the locals here. Very different things they do here. For example, white boys like to drink beer, potato couch all day, play horse shoe, visit the ranch, farming and stuff. I personally find these kinda stuff boring & I don't think I'll ever gonna like it.

3) When you're abroad, its everything for yourself. Unless you got some contact before you leave, other than that, you're on your own. You stand up for yourself. If you don't ask nobody is gonna give a shit about you. Trying to make new friends are kinda tough. As in trying to make good friends like those you have in high school. Don't expect to find your lifetime buddies here. I have not find one until now. Just regular friends for me is enough. Everybody have different interest, its up to you guys how you find the perfect group to click in.

4) Yes I did 2+2. But for me its 2+3 because I did finance AND accounting. Double major take a bit longer.

5) I live off campus. On campus you get to know more chicks wub.gif thumbup.gif

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Wow speak 5 different language & a masters in embryology still cannot get a girl?  doh.gif  doh.gif Mana boleh? If I were him, I'd make the most out of what I have. Especially with 5 different language, sure can "lure" girls from 5 different countries icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif . Best if he got British accent, girls love it  wub.gif  wub.gif . I think Brit accent is do darn cool.
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Which state you're in again? Lost track.

I guess we're the only few active one in the wee hours. Hehe. azarimy from UK. Also midnight poster


Added on November 18, 2008, 7:17 amOk someone PM'ed me about studying abroad. Thought I'd share with you guys
1) I'm studying in U of Nebraska Lincoln. For those who don't know where this is, I don't blame you. I get that alot

2) mostly I mix with whites & M'sians here. Hardly with blacks. Same goes for partying. Generally, I like to mix with everybody. Beside, when a few shots of tequila kicks in, you'll be the friendliest person on earth. Don't just stuck yourself mixing with only 1 group, try to mis around & get to know more people. One thing for sure is, there will be culture barrier when you try to mix with the locals here. Very different things they do here. For example, white boys like to drink beer, potato couch all day, play horse shoe, visit the ranch, farming and stuff. I personally find these kinda stuff boring & I don't think I'll ever gonna like it.

3) When you're abroad, its everything for yourself. Unless you got some contact before you leave, other than that, you're on your own. You stand up for yourself. If you don't ask nobody is gonna give a shit about you. Trying to make new friends are kinda tough. As in trying to make good friends like those you have in high school. Don't expect to find your lifetime buddies here. I have not find one until now. Just regular friends for me is enough. Everybody have different interest, its up to you guys how you find the perfect group to click in.

4) Yes I did 2+2. But for me its 2+3 because I did finance AND accounting. Double major take a bit longer.

5) I live off campus. On campus you get to know more chicks  wub.gif  thumbup.gif
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Wow speak 5 different language & a masters in embryology still cannot get a girl?  doh.gif  doh.gif Mana boleh? If I were him, I'd make the most out of what I have. Especially with 5 different language, sure can "lure" girls from 5 different countries icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif . Best if he got British accent, girls love it  wub.gif  wub.gif . I think Brit accent is do darn cool.
problem with that is, he's not hitting the right person. he's been hitting all girls that anything BUT asians. he's sort of... short. well, average malaysian height lah. so most of the time, height IS a factor.

but i'm sure he's screwing all the girls he can find in tokyo right now haha.

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Which state you're in again? Lost track.

I guess we're the only few active one in the wee hours. Hehe. azarimy from UK. Also midnight poster
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Oh icic. Height ar, I'm 6', ok? No wonder he "eating lemon" ler, hitting on white chicks. Hahaha. Chances of him hitting one is like hitting a lottery man sweat.gif rolleyes.gif . Tell him to lower his expectations. If he hit on Asian, sure kena a lot.

BTW, let's not talk about "screwing" here. Later people get offended rclxub.gif . Can talk in PM. icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif Hehe.

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Its just a small world. It seems like everybody knows somebody who knows somebody. biggrin.gif
I've already made up my mind, im going to University of North Carolina in Chapel Hill, doing business. I'm so freaking nervous man...have to learn so many stuff before going there like Cycling, Cooking, how to exchange flights, go through customs, this and that....how was it sitting on a flight for 30 hours long (frm Malaysia - US) all by your self?

BTW do you get to choose your roommate if you're living in a campus? or do the college pick Asians live with Asians and White lives with White? You guys cycle to skl ? walk? bought a car?

My cousin who used to study in Perdue said that every weekend they have this like Weekly American Football, so everybody would gather at the stadium and watch. What about your colleges?
Do you guys like once in a while rent a car with a bunch of buddies and head towards the city or another state?

P.S : Is it that hard for a Malaysian to hit on a white chick?

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Its just a small world. It seems like everybody knows somebody who knows somebody.  biggrin.gif
I've already made up my mind, im going to University of North Carolina in Chapel Hill, doing business. I'm so freaking nervous man...have to learn so many stuff before going there like Cycling, Cooking, how to exchange flights, go through customs, this and that....how was it sitting on a flight for 30 hours long (frm Malaysia - US) all by your self?

BTW do you get to choose your roommate if you're living in a campus? or do the college pick Asians live with Asians and White lives with White? You guys cycle to skl ? walk? bought a car?

My cousin who used to study in Perdue said that every weekend they have this like Weekly American Football, so everybody would gather at the stadium and watch. What about your colleges?
Do you guys like once in a while rent a car with a bunch of buddies and head towards the city or another state?

P.S : Is it that hard for a Malaysian to hit on a white chick?
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It isn't that difficult to get through customs and stuff. Just read the signs and don't say "bomb".

No you don't get to choose your roommate for freshman year ... and they assign locals with internationals - my roommate last year is from Indiana.
Not every weekend. Only during football season. The IU-Purdue game is this Saturday .. and that's like the biggest game of the season. I'm excited!

I shouldn't think it's difficult for anybody to hit on a white girl ... it just depends on the girl. Usually they're not interested though, they prefer asian americans.

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Bro, chill out man. Sounds like you're freaking out. Just let things be. It'll come naturally. And DON'T push your luck on that white chick part. Most of the "jual mahal" especially to Asian. I'm telling you before hand. Just focus on your goals & objective studying abroad. White chick or not, don't sweat it.

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Bro, chill out man. Sounds like you're freaking out. Just let things be. It'll come naturally. And DON'T push your luck on that white chick part. Most of the "jual mahal" especially to Asian. I'm telling you before hand. Just focus on your goals & objective studying abroad. White chick or not, don't sweat it.

I don't particularly hit on white chicks. Just be friends. Just be yourself.  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif No need to act cool to lure whites cool.gif
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Beware that the immigration officers at international airports may not be so friendly. You may be yelled at. But DON'T reply in a harsh way. They have the authority to NOT let you enter the country, deport you back home or interrogate you. So just be careful. Don't make a fuss in airports.
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Don't worry ma man. Everything will be cool if you take ma advice. Play it cool. Don't be desperado. You'll be rocking!!! If you can't get any white chicks, just think of my signature hahaha drool.gif drool.gif
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Indeed man. Country of freedom. Country of opportunity. Country of dreams.

You still in US?


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YAY!!!

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Indeed man. Country of freedom. Country of opportunity. Country of dreams.

You still in US?


Added on November 19, 2008, 12:41 pmPARIS HILTON FOR AMERICA!!!
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and leaving for USA again after my SPM !cant wait for that!
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Indeed man. Country of freedom. Country of opportunity. Country of dreams.

You still in US?


Added on November 19, 2008, 12:41 pmPARIS HILTON FOR AMERICA!!!
YAY!!!
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i used to live in USA for a few years before coming back to Malaysia.
and leaving for USA again after my SPM !cant wait for that!
r u in USA?where r u stayin'?

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I live in Nebraska.
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Its gonna be f***ing cold!!!
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hey hey....when all of us are in US aldy we should make like a LowyatForum Gathering in the States...we find one Saturday when everbody is free then we meet up in a state or place which is convenient for everybody. That'll be cool. drool.gif drool.gif


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Don't worry ma man. Everything will be cool if you take ma advice. Play it cool. Don't be desperado. You'll be rocking!!! If you can't get any white chicks, just think of my signature hahaha drool.gif  drool.gif
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LMAO....sure do man.

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hey hey....when all of us are in US aldy we should make like a LowyatForum Gathering in the States...we find one Saturday when everbody is free then we meet up in a state or place which is convenient for everybody. That'll be cool.  drool.gif  drool.gif


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LMAO....sure do man.
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haha or Disneyland?
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Seriously , i wanna further my studies in overseas as well which ideally UK . If you got the financial capability , go ahead !

For me , my dad still capable to send me to UK now . But , who knows what will happen in the future as the economics is problematic now. My dad is therefore asking me to take my degree locally . How sad !
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how abt Colorado?or Las vegas?
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Seriously , i wanna further my studies in overseas as well which ideally UK . If you got the financial capability , go ahead !

For me , my dad still capable to send me to UK now . But , who knows what will happen in the future as the economics is problematic now. My dad is therefore asking me to take my degree locally . How sad !
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I was worried about financial issues too...i kept wondering after they sent me aboard would they still have enough money for their retirement life...
UK is seriously darn expensive. Why not go to Australia or US?

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I'm at North Carolina nearer to the North East part.  How bout meeting at the White House? invite Obama for a cup of coffee along with us.  haha.  tongue.gif


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I was worried about financial issues too...i kept wondering after they sent me aboard would they still have enough money for their retirement life...
UK is seriously darn expensive. Why not go to Australia or US?
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Well...since UK is better for law degree .... US law is different .... AUS law program needs 4 yrs whereas UK need only 3 yrs .
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Well...since UK is better for law degree .... US law is different .... AUS law program needs 4 yrs whereas UK need only 3 yrs .
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law degree u take in US and become lawyer in USA.and dont come back to Malaysia
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ya UK is so damn expensive!
law degree u take in US and become lawyer in USA.and dont come back to Malaysia
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is it possible for a malaysia student to get into ivy league?
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Can Nicol Ann David be the best squash player in the world? hell yeah! Everything is possible as long you work really really hard for it. For example my cousin who is currently studying in Harvard.(not trying to boost) ...He was the only 2 Malaysians who got selected for that year if im not mistaken. So if you wanna be the one to get selected, you'll have to work real hard.

As for your question : Yes! its definitely possible to get in to Ivy League.

BTW (those studying overseas) do you guys work part-time? like say as waiter/waitress? librarian? help teacher to mark assignment? or you don't bother to work at all? you guys usually work during winter time and summer right? coz that's the holiday season so i heard.

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I was worried about financial issues too...i kept wondering after they sent me aboard would they still have enough money for their retirement life...
UK is seriously darn expensive. Why not go to Australia or US?
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I was worried about financial issues too...i kept wondering after they sent me aboard would they still have enough money for their retirement life...
UK is seriously darn expensive. Why not go to Australia or US?
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actually, if u could afford to study in australia, u should afford studying in the UK, no problem. just avoid big cities like london and u'll be fine. australia might sound cheaper due to the exchange rate, but u could buy most of the stuffs in the UK with relatively the same price with australia.
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Vegas will be good. Are you 21? If not, don't bother.


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Your parents gotta make sure they have more than sufficient money to cover you abroad. Not only tuition, you must take into consideration other misc expenses that might pop up like medical expenses & travel expenses.


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You should compare the purchasing power in every country instead of the price of things. How much stuff you can buy with a dollar. That's what matter most.

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Yeah, textbooks are so darn expensive!!!! Ridiculously priced!!
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Definitely smile.gif

But sometimes I don't really understand why are the ivies such a big deal sweat.gif Besides the "Ivy" name (which some Malaysians have not even heard about), the classes are almost equally as challenging as other top-tier schools' (think MIT, Stanford, Northwestern, U of Chicago which are not Ivies)
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there are the New Ivies though ... 25 universities.
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Definitely  smile.gif

But sometimes I don't really understand why are the ivies such a big deal  sweat.gif  Besides the "Ivy" name (which some Malaysians have not even heard about), the classes are almost equally as challenging as other top-tier schools' (think MIT, Stanford, Northwestern, U of Chicago which are not Ivies)
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I didn't know what on earth was Ivy League(tot it was some kinda football league) until last few months when i was discussing colleges in US with my cousin.  tongue.gif
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no actually, the Ivy League is world renowned. Malaysians are just ignorant.
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Practice law in UK. That's what people do. Nvr heard of Msian taking law in U.S.
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why Malaysian don't take law degree in the USA?
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why Malaysian don't take law degree in the USA?
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Also, US law & UK law is different. M'sia is based on UK law. So why study US law. If you wanna study law, better go to Australia / UK.


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Really world renowned? Didn't know that. blink.gif tongue.gif

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Also, US law & UK law is different. M'sia is based on UK law. So why study US law. If you wanna study law, better go to Australia / UK.


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Really world renowned? Didn't know that. blink.gif  tongue.gif
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what if we take law degree and become a lawyer in USA?
im asking coz law is one of the courses which included in my wish list.


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Also, US law & UK law is different. M'sia is based on UK law. So why study US law. If you wanna study law, better go to Australia / UK.


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Really world renowned? Didn't know that. blink.gif  tongue.gif
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what if we take law degree and become a lawyer in USA?
im asking coz law is one of the courses which included in my wish list.

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Then yes, of course you can TRY to do that (but remember, getting H1B working visa will be a gamble)

Also, you gotta need a Bachelor's Degree, LSAT, Law school interviews etc.
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lol. then it means can la? even if we r not a local citizen in america.
but how do u apply for ivy league n such.

there's only 7 ivy leagues university.
top ivy league universitys are,

Brown University
Columbia University
Cornell University
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lol. then it means can la? even if we r not a local citizen in america.
but how do u apply for ivy league n such.

there's only 7 ivy leagues university.
top ivy league universitys are,

Brown University
Columbia University
Cornell University
Dartmouth College
Harvard University
University of Pennsylvania
Princeton University
Yale University
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Apply like how you would for other schools, it's just that they may be more selective (note: MIT and Stanford are not in the list but as we know, their acceptance rate is even lower compared to some of the ivies). I assume you know that you will have to take the SAT, SAT II and TOEFL before applying.

As for what these ivies are looking for in applicants, it is very subjective.
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Apply like how you would for other schools, it's just that they may be more selective (note: MIT and Stanford are not in the list but as we know, their acceptance rate is even lower compared to some of the ivies). I assume you know that you will have to take the SAT, SAT II and TOEFL before applying.

As for what these ivies are looking for in applicants, it is very subjective.
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ya its true. its not easy to get into ivy league schools. but my dad seem to be considering it alot.

but for ivy u must ace in ur SAT , ur personality, and probably u need alot of $$$ too.

its not easy to get in. i personally like yale the most. but no, its very hard to get in. guess, i could just dream about it then,.
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Wonder how those Ivy's select candidates?
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You should compare the purchasing power in every country instead of the price of things. How much stuff you can buy with a dollar. That's what matter most.
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buck for buck, living cost in most cities in the UK is comparable to australia. big australian cities like sydney and melbourne can be more expensive than the UK (except for london, edinburgh or birmingham).
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Aite thats cool rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

I just wanna clarify. Because 99% of the people I know always think of earning foreign currency and convert to spend in M'sia. YES, that is great to know that you're earning much more. But one have to consider the living expenses abroad. For example, they have to understand if they earn USD, they will have to spend USD. Therefore, one have to talk in terms of purchasing power.

Not like "our leaders", always compare petrol prices in S'pore & M'sia. So frustrating to listen to those comments vmad.gif mad.gif
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QUOTE(serena212 @ Nov 19 2008, 12:20 PM)
ya its true. its not easy to get into ivy league schools. but my dad seem to be considering it alot.

but for ivy u must ace in ur SAT , ur personality, and probably u need alot of $$$ too.

its not easy to get in. i personally like yale the most. but no, its very hard to get in. guess, i could just dream about it then,.
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Is it because Blair's dream school is Yale (referring to your avatar, lol)?

SAT score is not the only criterion for selection. I know of someone who only got 1200 (older format, out of 1600) who got into Cornell too. I don't think he scored high in TOEFL as well because he was required to take special writing classes when he first arrived.

But you are absolutely right that Ivy League schools' tuition fee are much higher.
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Acceptance rates at Ivies are around 10-15% of total applicant volume. And yes, the Ivies are world-renowned ... like I said, Malaysians are ignorant. Law and Medical degrees in the US are graduate only - meaning you have to have your bachelor's before you can even consider applying.
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For Class of 2012, Cornell's acceptance rate was actually 20.4% cry.gif (good for those who are applying, bad for those who are already in it, lol)
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Wow. The fees are do darn exp. Unless you're "well funded", then can think of Ivy. I myself dare not think of those.
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Is it because Blair's dream school is Yale (referring to your avatar, lol)?

SAT score is not the only criterion for selection. I know of someone who only got 1200 (older format, out of 1600) who got into Cornell too. I don't think he scored high in TOEFL as well because he was required to take special writing classes when he first arrived.

But you are absolutely right that Ivy League schools' tuition fee are much higher.
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and besides, of all the ivy school tht i have check it up online, i still think yale is the best. blair do have fine taste.
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QUOTE(serena212 @ Nov 20 2008, 04:07 AM)
haha. even before gossip girl came out, i know alrd all these about the ivy league and such. i have a cousin who is half white who studies in US. so he use to tel me all about it, and my dad and uncles too. and then when gossip girl came out and they mention about the ivy, certainly all the more, i like it even more than before. ya, its not just perfect scores in SAT tht they r looking for. basically if u manage to charm the dean, then im sure ur percentage of getting in is higher.

and besides, of all the ivy school tht i have check it up online, i still think yale is the best. blair do have fine taste.
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Did you know that the scenes of Yales in Gossip Girl was actually filmed in Columbia (another Ivy)? I was literally inches away from the cast members! Blair and Serena are cuter than they are on the screen, lol
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ya, tht i know of course. cos tht doesnt look like yale at all. \at 1st i was like,wow tht is yale, then later on, i was like, hey thts not yale ! haha. i double check it in the internet.

oh tht was so cool tht u were at the scene of the shooting. ya blake and leighton are downright gorgeous whether in the show or real life.
i like leighton the most though. she inherited classic good looks.and probably her character in the show was very interesting.
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So for all of you who's studying abroad now, I assume you guys don't plan to go home in future right?
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Anyone here studied or studying in overseas now such as America, Australia, UK,Canada or anywhere around the globe?
Mind sharing your experience with us? as in how are the people over there? their lifestyle? how are they treating you? are there any racists? do you have alot of friends? are most of your friends your race(chinese,malays,indians) instead of white people and black people? are you happy with your decision to study overseas? do you regret for not staying back in Malaysia to continue your studies? do you get homesick every now and then? what's the difference between studying in overseas and studying locally?

List out what course, what college, which state, which country that your studying or had studied in and share your experience with everyone.

Come on everyone share your experience!   rclxms.gif
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So for all of you who's studying abroad now, I assume you guys don't plan to go home in future right?
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depends.. i mean like australia.. it's such a good place to live.. why go back to malaysia where all the malays are given special right? and besides, the gurls there are prettier too tongue.gif

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So for all of you who's studying abroad now, I assume you guys don't plan to go home in future right?
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Unfortunately, I think I'm headed back cry.gif I will encounter such severe reverse culture shock compared to what I actually faced when I first came to the States
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It's a possibility ... I still have it as an option, but I wouldn't have a family if I went back to KL. Boyfriend doesn't want me to go back though, and he knows how to keep me here ... which I really don't mind at all considering how serious we are about each other.

But we'll see. I have a year after graduation to find a job.
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AGREED icon_rolleyes.gif . With those special rights issue, there is no equality in M'sia. Although we are taught to think that M'sia have equality, but in reality no no wink.gif wink.gif . In terms of girls, not gonna comment further on that.


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Why is there culture shock? Just change of environment only. Of course, there are a lot of differences between U.S & M'sia. BTW, you're in U.S now?


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Why wouldn't you have a family in KL? Your parents?

Well, parents you only got 1, but boyfriend you still can choose in time to come.

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Why wouldn't you have a family in KL? Your parents?

Well, parents you only got 1, but boyfriend you still can choose in time to come.
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well I meant my own family ... kids and a husband.
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Oh gotcha.
Wow, you're a visionary. You look WAY ahead in time. thumbup.gif
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Unfortunately, I think I'm headed back cry.gif  I will encounter such severe reverse culture shock compared to what I actually faced when I first came to the States
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Please elaborate.


BTW what do u all guys/girls usually do during the weekend? is it always Party/Drinking/Smoking/Clubbing on Saturday night?sex?doing wild things?
Have u encounter a situation where u're mixing with all the whites/blacks and they're smoking and drinking but you don't. However you wouldn't wanna walk away coz you wanna be part of the gang and get to know people...so what would you do? (just 2 questions im curious about)
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Please elaborate.
BTW what do u all guys/girls usually do during the weekend? is it always Party/Drinking/Smoking/Clubbing on Saturday night?sex?doing wild things?
Have u encounter a situation where u're mixing with all the whites/blacks and they're smoking and drinking but you don't. However you wouldn't wanna walk away coz you wanna be part of the gang and get to know people...so what would you do? (just 2 questions im curious about)
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Not everyone smokes.....

Social drinking is ok
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Not everyone smokes.....

Social drinking is ok
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I'm fine with drinking, I even do a little drinking myself tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif (shhhhhhh)
but i just can't stand smoking..the smell and the 'Black Lung Cancer' picture just keeps pop-ing up in my mind whenever im around someone that smokes.
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Why is there culture shock? Just change of environment only. Of course, there are a lot of differences between U.S & M'sia. BTW, you're in U.S now?
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Yeah I'm in U.S now. Culture shock in terms of well, I have always been bothered by the special rights. And the ways people mingle with each other and the activities they do during free time, it's going to be very different, at least I think so, lol. I look at my bro who's still in KL and I can't even agree with him in almost everything he does sweat.gif


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Please elaborate.
BTW what do u all guys/girls usually do during the weekend? is it always Party/Drinking/Smoking/Clubbing on Saturday night?sex?doing wild things?
Have u encounter a situation where u're mixing with all the whites/blacks and they're smoking and drinking but you don't. However you wouldn't wanna walk away coz you wanna be part of the gang and get to know people...so what would you do? (just 2 questions im curious about)
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This totally depends on the people you hang out with. If you are friends with the party animals, then expect to get drunk every weekend (if that's your ideal college lifestyle, so be it smile.gif )

But of course, there are friends who know how to party yet study hard too, so yeah, it totally depends on who you are and who you want to be friends with.

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What you do during weekends depends on your lifestyle. How & where you grew up in.

As for me, I used to party like 3-4 nights a week. Non-stop back to back in my Sophomore & Junior year. Even if I have class the next morning, I never fail to show up to drinking parties & clubs rclxms.gif rclxms.gif . But as you enter your Senior year, you'll set all these "activities" aside & focus more on serious stuff like building your career. Now, during my weekends, I usually stay at home & watch movie or TV series. I dunno why but I kinda not in the mood for all these "things" already. Of course, once in a while I'll go & hang out & enjoy myself. But not as often as before. I spent A LOT on booze last time. Uncountable icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif . As for the sex part, sometimes got la wub.gif .

How you wanna mix & who you wanna is again up to yourself. No harm making more friends. As the Chinese proverb goes, "its better to have 1 more friend than 1 more enemy" icon_rolleyes.gif . I'm cool hanging out with everybody, be it blacks, whites, browns, yellows, greens, purples, pinky. Always remember, you're in a foreign land and respect people's culture. In return, people will respect you as a M'sian notworthy.gif.


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Yes, no doubt U.S is the land of freedom & change. But some things are beyond our control like the "special rights" thing. Can't really do anything about it but just to live with it. Things are different every, just gotta adapt to the surroundings lo whistling.gif. What to do? Close one eyes


Added on November 21, 2008, 12:45 pmHey when you guys go back to M'sia, we can have a gathering perhaps. What say you guys?

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Haha good for you P.I.M.P! I definitely didn't get to be as wild as you did tongue.gif hahahaha...

My school is technically like a jail but of course, there are parties still but I guess I'm not the part-every-night type

And do we really want to know about the "girls" part? tongue.gif
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Haha. I was super wild last time. Last time la k. Thurs, Fri, Sat night confirm I'll be "there" icon_idea.gif . No absentism for me in this matter. Last time in college was also wild with friends.

But now gone are the days. More stable & know how to prioritize things already. Please enjoy your time while you can. Especially your time here in America. After this, you won't know what you will turn into. Hehe.

What girls part?
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Ya lor. Why not you share your thoughts here rather than "spamming".
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I've been here for 1.5 years already and I've only been to two parties
It really depends on what you want to do.

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Yeah. Like I said, depends on individuals' lifestyle. Everyone has different interest & likes.

Any thoughts on the gathering session some time in future? All U.S LYN-ers
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Definitely man! 1 gathering in Malaysia another one in 1 America(if that's possible). Then during gathering we can share more of each person's experience in US...ask PIMP to bring some American Ladies back here to Malaysia! wahahhaha...We can meet up before Christmas coz im pretty sure that's the time when all of you are back here right?

We should also exchange names,email or perhaps phone number and get to know each other better. just my 2cent.

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Sounds like a good plan man!!! During the gathering, each of us gotta stand up & give speech. Like sekolah menengah, hahaha.

Wah you think I pimp meh? Bring white chicks. Got also reserve for maself la. The more the merrier. Me like!! smile.gif

Oh I won't be back so soon. Gonna travel to NY in from Dec 23 - Jan 9. Then I'm off to Europe for 32 days. Hehe.
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Sounds like a good plan man!!! During the gathering, each of us gotta stand up & give speech. Like sekolah menengah, hahaha.

Wah you think I pimp meh? Bring white chicks. Got also reserve for maself la. The more the merrier. Me like!! smile.gif

Oh I won't be back so soon. Gonna travel to NY in from Dec 23 - Jan 9. Then I'm off to Europe for 32 days. Hehe.
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I'll be there from Dec 23 to Jan 1. Then off to DC & Boston.

Just travel around lo since graduate already.


Added on November 22, 2008, 2:35 amEh recommend some nice M'sia restaurants in NY.

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I'll be there from Dec 23 to Jan 1. Then off to DC & Boston.

Just travel around lo since graduate already.


Added on November 22, 2008, 2:35 amEh recommend some nice M'sia restaurants in NY.
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Just curious, why would you want to eat in a M'sia restaurant when you are already going back to M'sia soon? Hehehe...
I actually haven't been to any Msia restaurant in NYC, but try out XO in Chinatown. Their HK/Taiwan cuisines are great, and cheap too.

As for Boston, definitely go to Quincy and try the clam chowder.

(The only Msia restaurant I know of is at Jersey City, named Satay, but I doubt you would want to cross the river to the Jersey side though)
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Too darn long nvr eat M'sia food already. Well maybe I'll get to eat next week when I go to Chicago for Thankgiving sale. Shopping spree time!!!

XO in Chinatown got it. Cool cool. I'm not going to Jersey tho. sad.gif
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actually study overseas mkae yourself more equip with challenges ahead; deal with diff . culture; look at the problem at diff. scope.. ..

it depends on individual; for me- study abroad make me more exposed well with all kind of efficiency & people and how a particular group agrees & not..

find the good mate etc
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Too darn long nvr eat M'sia food already. Well maybe I'll get to eat next week when I go to Chicago for Thankgiving sale. Shopping spree time!!!

XO in Chinatown got it. Cool cool. I'm not going to Jersey tho. sad.gif
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But when I went to Chicago for the 2nd time, it was temporarily shut down due to "hygienic" issues shocking.gif
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Thats true. Study abroad will make you a strong person & ready to take on challenges. IMO icon_rolleyes.gif


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Yeah you'll meet all kind of people from every corner of the world. Great experience. Especially for those who are eager to meet girls from around the world wub.gif doh.gif .


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Yeah ate there before. Those waiter ain't friendly tho. Their face like muka masam. Bad customer service. Damn tulan.

Food ok la. whistling.gif whistling.gif . Wow got hygiene issue ka. Need to find other places to eat d.

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Hey do you all eat the same western food everyday like mash potato,beans,chicken,sausage,hot dog or stuff like that? or everyday u guys eat different cuisine? like chinese food,indian,easten food...

What did u bring when u first went aboard to study? laptop?handphone?skateboard?football?mp3 player? ...

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Haha you coming to New York? Cool! How long are you staying in the city? Not that I'm still here by the time you visit, lol
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oh ur currently in US now? which part ? thts nice.
i will be heading to new york, manhattan next month, during christmas time after my spm's over. sorta like a small vacation break.
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QUOTE(serena212 @ Nov 22 2008, 05:31 AM)
oh ur currently in US now? which part ? thts nice.
i will be heading to new york, manhattan next month, during christmas time after my spm's over. sorta like a small vacation break.
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I'm currently at Ithaca, New York (upstate New York), which is about 5-6 hours away from Manhattan. I interned in Manhattan last summer though. The city is definitely a very happening place to live in smile.gif

Wow Christmas time in NYC, it's going to be awesome (and crowded)


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Hey do you all eat the same western food everyday like mash potato,beans,chicken,sausage,hot dog or stuff like that? or everyday u guys eat different cuisine? like chinese food,indian,easten food...

What did u bring when u first went aboard to study? laptop?handphone?skateboard?football?mp3 player? ...
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My advice is to NOT bring a lot of things you think you may need because well, for most of the people I know of including myself, we end up buying a lot of things here.

Laptop - Yes (but you will need a converter for the power outlet)
Cellphone - No (check out the different carriers at your school, some have better reception than others, besides, you may get free phones for signing a contract with them)

Skateboard - If that's your leisure activity, sure, why not
Football - same as above
mp3 - Definitely yes

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When you live on campus, you will be stuck with nothing but those American food. Trust me on this, you be sick & bored with those dorm food by the end of your 1st week eating in the dorm. Depends on which U you're going. Every U has its own meal-plan policy. Like in my U, we can choose to have 5 days or 7 days meal plan. Unlimited access to the cafeteria, just enter & eat as & when you like.

Stuff I brought: LOTSA CASH, credit card, clothing, some maggi me, bkt spices, toiletries. That's about it. Don't pack liquid stuff into your carry on luggage. If not, when you go thru security screening in the airport, very mafan. To avoid hassle & speed up the process, better not bring any liquid unless you have liquid form of medication.


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I think those electronics not necessary to bring. Mp3 players are dirt cheap here. So better buy here if you like iPods. thumbup.gif

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Overseas or local?

Would you burn RM200k on a business degree in Australia? I wouldn't. Thats why i chose a local private university and pursue a RM60k biz degree. That's >50% the cost, plus a much lower living cost and a closer-to-family environment. I still get my freedom and independence as an out-station student.
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There are pros & cons studying abroad. I thought of doing local degree too. But my parents insisted on me studying abroad, what can I say icon_idea.gif brows.gif .

I can say it provided me a lifelong experience, make me a stronger person, and see the world. I will probably want my kids in future to study abroad and experience what I experienced. You will get to meet & see a lot of things that you won't see in M'sia.

Of course there is nothing than the comfort at home. Everything provided for. Miss the food back home drool.gif drool.gif . After you experience studying abroad, you can always go home & enjoy. But whatever path we choose, as long as we know how to navigate our journey to success, it don't matter where we study. Its how we shape it that matters.

Studying abroad is just to give you an opportunity to see the world, to learn new cultures, open your eyes to the world, absorb as much knowledge & ideas as possible. Who knows, you can bring in some business ideas to M'sia & become millionaire. icon_rolleyes.gif
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My school's meal plan was incredibly good though. We had Japanese, Korean, Indian, Mexican etc rotating everyday smile.gif Of course, American food like burgers, pasta and bread were always available too!
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Wow that's nice!!!
Got hokkien mee, char kuey teow, roti canai ar? These are Asian food also ma. Heheh.

I'm so sick of American food.
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There are pros & cons studying abroad. I thought of doing local degree too. But my parents insisted on me studying abroad, what can I say  icon_idea.gif  brows.gif .

I can say it provided me a lifelong experience, make me a stronger person, and see the world. I will probably want my kids in future to study abroad and experience what I experienced. You will get to meet & see a lot of things that you won't see in M'sia.

Of course there is nothing than the comfort at home. Everything provided for. Miss the food back home drool.gif  drool.gif . After you experience studying abroad, you can always go home & enjoy. But whatever path we choose, as long as we know how to navigate our journey to success, it don't matter where we study. Its how we shape it that matters.

Studying abroad is just to give you an opportunity to see the world, to learn new cultures, open your eyes to the world, absorb as much knowledge & ideas as possible. Who knows, you can bring in some business ideas to M'sia & become millionaire. icon_rolleyes.gif
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You can take the few hundred thousands to travel around the world, bask in different cultures and have all types of experiences. Won't that make you a stronger person who sees a lot of the world?

Ha. Pretty subjective uh.
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You can take the few hundred thousands to travel around the world, bask in different cultures and have all types of experiences. Won't that make you a stronger person who sees a lot of the world?

Ha. Pretty subjective uh.
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I can't debate much on this coz i haven't live(studying) in overseas before but I would say Traveling and Living in a country or around the world is a totally different thing. Through traveling you don't get to learn as much as you live in a place. Traveling would always be fun coz your're constantly having activities and stuff, going out and the most you travel in a country would probably be lets say a week? 2 week? 3? but living, oh no living, when you are actually living in another country, its a whole lot different.

just my 2 cent. smile.gif
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Traveling & living in other country is 2 different issues. 1 is for pleasure & enjoying. Living & study abroad actually assimilate yourself to the foreign environment. Some things are just beyond explanation & one have to experience it them self.
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Traveling & living in other country is 2 different issues. 1 is for pleasure & enjoying. Living & study abroad actually assimilate yourself to the foreign environment. Some things are just beyond explanation & one have to experience it them self.
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yeap..now do you understand why we're willing to spend 200K to study aboard?
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yeah, but the 200k isn't usually your own money. So don't talk too much.
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i am going to do my post-grad ... and i am going to pay it all myself!!! i didnt actually study overseas but i was working instead... and now i fell in love with the place n some of the girls... so i am going back to study
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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Nov 23 2008, 11:20 PM)
yeah, but the 200k isn't usually your own money. So don't talk too much.
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What are you trying to say? i was just explaining to him...not boosting or anything. blush.gif


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i am going to do my post-grad ... and i am going to pay it all myself!!! i didnt actually study overseas but i was working instead... and now i fell in love with the place n some of the girls... so i am going back to study
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good for you man, where were u studying? girls as in Asian or Whites?? hehehehe... brows.gif

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Fell in love with the place & GIRLS huh wub.gif wub.gif . Must be some locals thumbup.gif
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Fell in love with the place & GIRLS huh wub.gif  wub.gif . Must be some locals thumbup.gif
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What about you pimp, ever fell in love with the cough locals? nod.gif
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Me fell in love with locals? No no. "Mess" around yes. Not into serious relationship with locals. smile.gif
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White girls to mess around. I still like Asians no matter what.

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good for you man, where were u studying?  girls as in Asian or Whites?? hehehehe...  brows.gif
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was studying in monash.. now going to univeristy of alaska, anchorage campus... i bet no1 knows where this place is..... lol

asian americans... whites are pretty too, but they are too 'screwed' up

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hehehe thumbup.gif let's keep the casual talk out shall we notworthy.gif

i should have done my bachelors in the states rather then in monash... zzz
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was studying in monash.. now going to univeristy of alaska, anchorage campus... i bet no1 knows where this place is..... lol

asian americans... whites are pretty too, but they are too 'screwed' up
hehehe  thumbup.gif  let's keep the casual talk out shall we  notworthy.gif

i should have done my bachelors in the states rather then in monash... zzz
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my mom wants me to go Monash coz cheaper yet nearer...but i keep telling her NO!!! I want states!!! whaahhaa... tongue.gif I saw Monash campus today, darn beautiful.

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"Screwed" up, that is the term to use rclxms.gif icon_idea.gif

Monash also not bad. Monash quite exp also right? Considering its private local U. hmm.gif


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Wah! Pampered kau kau. Must go to States, so I guess next time you won't go home? Stay in States FOREVA!? rclxm9.gif

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ermm.. it is not that monash is bad, but the experience is diff.. monash you are paying more because you have proper facilities and staff but you cant buy environment..

lets say i study 1+4 years at monash for my engineering program and compared to 2+2 years ADP... i think ADP would be around the same price, and best of all in the states you can afford to work part time when you study unlike here back in msia


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Yeah the experience is different.

Can you work PT as you study? If you're under F-1 visa, you CANNOT work OFF-campus. Just ON-campus. thumbup.gif
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ermm.. it is not that monash is bad, but the experience is diff.. monash you are paying more because you have proper facilities and staff but you cant buy environment..

lets say i study 1+4 years at monash for my engineering program and compared to 2+2 years ADP... i think ADP would be around the same price, and best of all in the states you can afford to work part time when you study unlike here back in msia
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OH man!!

So glad I'm done with my finals today. Now just got 1 final presentation to go & wait for my commencement!!
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OH man!!

So glad I'm done with my finals today. Now just got 1 final presentation to go & wait for my commencement!!
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how was ur first presentation in the states? were you like freaking freaking sweaty all nervous?
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Im going to U of IOwa in spring09 to major in business. But with the current financial crisis.... rclxub.gif cry.gif
Iowa is such a remote place, oh well , at least I can concentrate more on my studies wink.gif
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I tell you, my first speech was in front of those kuai lous. I'm the only Asian & int'l student in the entire class. F**king stress & tension sweat.gif sweat.gif . Almost pissed in my pants. I'm not joking man. That was in my 1st communication class.

But now I'm fluent already. No more erm uuhh aaahh eeerrr already. Just smooth flowing with my ideas in my head. Now whenever I need to give presentation, I think of how Tun Dr Mahathir give speech in conference. I respect all his speeches, needs no reference to the paper. He just speaks out from his mind. Now I'm pretty good in presentation already, no more tention & stress thumbup.gif


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U of Iowa! Good luck & God bless you yah! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(^mtv^ @ Nov 28 2008, 11:02 PM)
Im going to U of IOwa in spring09 to major in business. But with the current financial crisis.... rclxub.gif  cry.gif
Iowa is such a remote place, oh well , at least I can concentrate more on my studies  wink.gif
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I tell you, my first speech was in front of those kuai lous. I'm the only Asian & int'l student in the entire class. F**king stress & tension  sweat.gif  sweat.gif . Almost pissed in my pants. I'm not joking man. That was in my 1st communication class.

But now I'm fluent already. No more erm uuhh aaahh eeerrr already. Just smooth flowing with my ideas in my head. Now whenever I need to give presentation, I think of how Tun Dr Mahathir give speech in conference. I respect all his speeches, needs no reference to the paper. He just speaks out from his mind. Now I'm pretty good in presentation already, no more tention & stress thumbup.gif
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U of Iowa! Good luck & God bless you yah!  thumbup.gif
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lmao...my gosh can't imagine my first presentation ler... haha
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PIMP or any1 out thr who done 2+2 ADP, hw did u finance the cost of studies(including tuition fees n expenses for the 2yrs local n 2yrs US, jz everything tat cost u in the 4yrs time)?? hw did u get thru it, loan/scholarship/partial schoalrship/financial aids??? sum advices plz?
after readin all the post this tread, it really inspired me to study overseas n i oways wanted to study overseas bt $$ is oways the limitin factor for me.... sad.gif
my parents could oni prepare rm50k-70k for me....more than tat ill nid loan or scholarship.... sad.gif
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BUMP. sum advice for my previous post plz
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giv u a tip... take adp... 2+2... for the 2 years in msia.. every year sem break go work in the US under work n travel... u can earn around 10k usd per year.. should have 20k usd during ur 3rd year... with ur parents $$$ n 20k usd.. should be able to get visa

when u r there, study hard like crap n work part time... should be able to make it through
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giv u a tip... take adp... 2+2... for the 2 years in msia.. every year sem break go work in the US under work n travel... u can earn around 10k usd per year.. should have 20k usd during ur 3rd year... with ur parents $$$ n 20k usd.. should be able to get visa

when u r there, study hard like crap n work part time... should be able to make it through
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oh! u remind me of that work n travel USA! u mean THIS rite?
u participated this programme b4 rite? coz i saw ur pic in ur avatar b4! brows.gif

-ehh cn we really earn 10k usd in 3 months? hmm.gif
-cn participate twice in this programme??
-frm u said, its like gamblin my fate to got choosen into dis programme leh...if nt choosen in the programme, ill be wastin $$ n time in the ADP in MY...
-"study hard like crap n work part time", so its jz studyin n work thr all the time i assume...no time for travellin abit, clubbin abit biggrin.gif n dabble in sum activities to feel the culture n etc? if its like dis, it wouldnt b a gud idea isnt it, since these is y we study overseas rite? n affectin our studies is nt gud as well?

im lookin forward to u clarifyin these. thx bro, for ur tips!! rclxms.gif

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oh! u remind me of that work n travel USA! u mean THIS rite?
u participated this programme b4 rite? coz i saw ur pic in ur avatar b4!  brows.gif

-ehh cn we really earn 10k usd in 3 months?  hmm.gif
-cn participate twice in this programme??
-frm u said, its like gamblin my fate to got choosen into dis programme leh...if nt choosen in the programme, ill be wastin $$ n time in the ADP in MY...
-"study hard like crap n work part time", so its jz studyin n work thr all the time i assume...no time for travellin abit, clubbin abit  biggrin.gif  n dabble in sum activities to feel the culture n etc? if its like dis, it wouldnt b a gud idea isnt it, since these is y we study overseas rite? n affectin our studies is nt gud as well?

im lookin forward to u clarifyin these. thx bro, for ur tips!!  rclxms.gif
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yeaps.. that's the one... 2 times, going for the 3rd time this coming tuesday

-current record is 16kusd/4months... my record is 13kusd/4months
-can participate as many times as u want as long u are a student
-well, life is a calculated risk, soemtimes u will think about the road not taken but that's life right? just sharing with u my experience
-of course can enjoy... why not? hehhehee... u will know once u r in ^^
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yeaps.. that's the one... 2 times, going for the 3rd time this coming tuesday

-current record is 16kusd/4months... my record is 13kusd/4months
-can participate as many times as u want as long u are a student
-well, life is a calculated risk, soemtimes u will think about the road not taken but that's life right? just sharing with u my experience
-of course can enjoy... why not? hehhehee... u will know once u r in ^^
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wow! 13k usd in 4 months?! drool.gif n u goin for the 3rd time?! 13k X 3= 39k usd in total?! wow!
-hw hard is it to got choosen for the programme wor? i nid to go for interview n tests? any tips? biggrin.gif
-is the programme offered thruout the year? or certain months in 1 yr a?

dis muz b a nice experience la! wanna participate!! thumbup.gif
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wow! 13k usd in 4 months?!  drool.gif n u goin for the 3rd time?! 13k X 3= 39k usd in total?! wow!
-hw hard is it to got choosen for the programme wor? i nid to go for interview n tests? any tips?  biggrin.gif
-is the programme offered thruout the year? or certain months in 1 yr a?

dis muz b a nice experience la! wanna participate!!  thumbup.gif
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yeaps.. 3rd time.. next tuesday lor.. my last time.. because i will be going for my convo already in sept..

err... very easy... interview is easy no test... dunnit tips 1 ler.. lol

ermm.. during summer n winter.. dates is up to u

no lar.. 1st year i got 3k usd only.. 2nd time got 13k.. total 16k.. this time hope to get 13k again.. 29k.. enough for my masters tuition fee ^^ yahoo!

can work can play can travel.. so nice
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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Apr 17 2009, 12:05 AM)
yeaps.. 3rd time.. next tuesday lor.. my last time.. because i will be going for my convo already in sept..

err... very easy... interview is easy no test... dunnit tips 1 ler.. lol

ermm.. during summer n winter.. dates is up to u

no lar.. 1st year i got 3k usd only.. 2nd time got 13k.. total 16k.. this time hope to get 13k again.. 29k.. enough for my masters tuition fee ^^ yahoo!

can work can play can travel.. so nice
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yeah sure a nice exp! thumbup.gif
takin off dis tuesday? bring me along plz? biggrin.gif
happy journey bro


Added on April 17, 2009, 12:20 amehh btw, do i nid to speak extraordinary english while interview?

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13k for 4 wow. Is that the amount you bringing home or it was the sum of the money you made in 4 months?
I have taken living expenses into equation and I can hardly come out with more than 2k a month.
Btw your employer doesn't tax you?

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yeah sure a nice exp!  thumbup.gif
takin off dis tuesday? bring me along plz?  biggrin.gif
happy journey bro


Added on April 17, 2009, 12:20 amehh btw, do i nid to speak extraordinary english while interview?
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err.. u wanna stay inside my luggage bag?

ermm.. not the employment interview but the embassy visa interview... if they think u cant converse properly then they might not issue u a visa.. but that's very rare... a little english will do

QUOTE(Anni @ Apr 17 2009, 12:44 AM)
13k for 4 wow. Is that the amount you bringing home or it was the sum of the money you made in 4 months?
I have taken living expenses into equation and I can hardly come out with more than 2k a month.
Btw your employer doesn't tax you?
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i left it in my us bank acc... i made total 12k wage + 3k tips.. after tax n expenses i made 13k usd ^^

ermm.. if u r studying the most u can make is 800usd.. but if u work like me 12 hours 6 days.. u will be able to make like 3k a month.. my friend works like crazy makes 4.5k.. sometimes we dont really work but just stay at the work place n get paid.. lol

we get tax.. from my 12k wage i got tax 1.1k.... so that means i take back 10.1k... but when i claim my tax back i claim 1.4k back.. lol.. what a joke.. please dont tell IRS, as i claim as a resident.. ahhahaa.. some ppl even worse claim their tax + 700usd.. lol.. instead of paying tax they pay u back with even more $$$
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Wow SeLrAhC , thats awesome. Hehe.
Do you have experience working in NZ before? biggrin.gif
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Wow SeLrAhC , thats awesome. Hehe.
Do you have experience working in NZ before? biggrin.gif
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the agency i went with does provide jobs for students in NZ... but the job isnt too attractive.. more of working in farms milking cows n picking orange... i rather work in starbucks where i can just laze around...

my father studied in NZ, and i definately want to go there with him after my studies... very beautiful there

the place i am going to is also beautiful ^^
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wow, then if i go 4 times n earn 35kusd, then when i graduate i ma cn drive a honda d? rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Apr 17 2009, 01:02 AM)
the agency i went with does provide jobs for students in NZ... but the job isnt too attractive.. more of working in farms milking cows n picking orange... i rather work in starbucks where i can just laze around...

my father studied in NZ, and i definately want to go there with him after my studies... very beautiful there

the place i am going to is also beautiful ^^
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Yeah. Agreed.
Hey btw , just out of curiousity , which uni did your father entered ya?
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wow, then if i go 4 times n earn 35kusd, then when i graduate i ma cn drive a honda d?  rclxms.gif
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if u study in cheaper local uni u can even settle ur tuition fees without even needing ur parents to pay for ya ^^

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Yeah. Agreed.
Hey btw , just out of curiousity , which uni did your father entered ya?
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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Apr 16 2009, 11:57 AM)
we get tax.. from my 12k wage i got tax 1.1k.... so that means i take back 10.1k... but when i claim my tax back i claim 1.4k back.. lol.. what a joke.. please dont tell IRS, as i claim as a resident.. ahhahaa.. some ppl even worse claim their tax + 700usd.. lol.. instead of paying tax they pay u back with even more $$$
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you will get full tax refund if you did not get the amount they set up. you claim it with social security not your status.

10k in 4 months is really good money. For instance a director who makes 5k a month will only take home 2.5-3k+ depends on the insurance and stuff. you work as waiter right?

this spring is weird, its mid april now and it is still chilly.
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QUOTE(Anni @ Apr 17 2009, 06:54 AM)
you will get full tax refund if you did not get the amount they set up. you claim it with social security not your status. 

10k in 4 months is really good money. For instance a director who makes 5k a month will only take home 2.5-3k+ depends on the insurance and stuff. you work as waiter right?

this spring is weird, its mid april now and it is still chilly.
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yea.. but if u claim in the in tax refund form as a resident.. you will get an extra 300usd on top of the full tax refund.. some states even more at 700... isnt that great thumbup.gif

ermm.. no really waiter.... barista XD

at my place there's no spring or autumn... it is winter or summer.. n the summer it colder than most places' winter.. lol
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well everyone is eligible for the 300 stimulus check as long as the tax is filed.

wow when will alaska goes like no nights and no days?

seriously i hate cold weather, and you like it lol? are you malaysian? lol
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why most people think that "western country" is EVERYTHING
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SeLrAhC, got sum questions here :
-when we're in USA studyin, roughly hw much cn i earn frm the part time job per month? hw much is the expenses per month? it wont affect my studies 1 rite?
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QUOTE(Anni @ Apr 17 2009, 10:29 AM)
well everyone is eligible for the 300 stimulus check as long as the tax is filed.

wow when will alaska goes like no nights and no days?

seriously i hate cold weather, and you like it lol? are you malaysian? lol
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no lor.. if u fill in a msian address u wont get d extra 300, u must put a US address

now lor... 23 hours day.. lol.. gila how 2 sleep doh.gif

errr.. i dont like it also... but msia too hot lar.. on air cond waste $$$, there cold wear thicker only.. free somemore thumbup.gif

i m msian lar... with all d msian bad habits ^^ thumbup.gif

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satu soalan
why most people think that "western country" is EVERYTHING
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errr... they are more advance? hmm.gif no leh.. eastern country also not too bad

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SeLrAhC, got sum questions here :
-when we're in USA studyin, roughly hw much cn i earn frm the part time job per month? hw much is the expenses per month? it wont affect my studies 1 rite?
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max is 20 hours, depends on ur wage lor... lowest i think is 7usd/hour... highest so far is 45usd/hour... estimate u can earn around 800usd, which is enough to cover lodging n food... expenses around 1kusd... nope, shouldnt affect much
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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Apr 17 2009, 04:55 PM)
no lor.. if u fill in a msian address u wont get d extra 300, u must put a US address

now lor... 23 hours day.. lol.. gila how 2 sleep  doh.gif

errr.. i dont like it also... but msia too hot lar.. on air cond waste $$$, there cold wear thicker only.. free somemore  thumbup.gif

i m msian lar... with all d msian bad habits ^^  thumbup.gif
errr... they are more advance?  hmm.gif  no leh.. eastern country also not too bad
max is 20 hours, depends on ur wage lor... lowest i think is 7usd/hour... highest so far is 45usd/hour... estimate u can earn around 800usd, which is enough to cover lodging n food... expenses around 1kusd... nope, shouldnt affect much
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ic...thx 4 the info bro! smile.gif

well, i checked a INTI college brochure, it states tat tuition fees + expenditure is approx. rm85k per yr (really? taylor's state its 100k-140k per yr shocking.gif )
so 2yrs is rm170k...my parents cn prepare me rm90k(hope so..)...hmm the remaining rm70k i hav to come out wif myself d...><
frm wat u said....i work part time thr to cover my expenses...so :

800USD(in come per month?) X 12(12 months) X 3.5(exchg rate into MYR) X 2(2yrs) = RM67200
then RM170k - RM67200 - RM90k = RM12800
when sem break cn work 40hrs/week rite..so i thk cn cover d? hmm.gif

SeLrAhC, clarify me if i gt any flaw in my calculations plz..

the Work n Travel USA part, i dun thk cn make it as i checked Taylor's academic yr, the sem break max is 1 month oni whr they require at least 2 to 3 months of employment...
-oh yea, do the work n travel programme sponsore our USA flight tickets? if no then... shocking.gif
-hw did u hav a 4 month sem break 1? hmm.gif
-if i doin foundation in engineering in nottingham(1 yr programme)...m i eligible for the programme? since they state at least 2 yrs...bt ill continue my degree for another 3yrs after my foundation...

sry SeLrAhC for my numbers of questions yea...bt since ure quite experienced in ths...plz clarify me on ths b4 u took off to USA again... notworthy.gif

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ic...thx 4 the info bro!  smile.gif

well, i checked a INTI college brochure, it states tat tuition fees + expenditure is approx. rm85k per yr (really? taylor's state its 100k-140k per yr shocking.gif )
so 2yrs is rm170k...my parents cn prepare me rm90k(hope so..)...hmm the remaining rm70k i hav to come out wif myself d...><
frm wat u said....i work part time thr to cover my expenses...so :

800USD(in come per month?) X 12(12 months) X 3.5(exchg rate into MYR) X 2(2yrs) = RM67200
then RM170k - RM67200 - RM90k = RM12800
when sem break cn work 40hrs/week rite..so i thk cn cover d?  hmm.gif

SeLrAhC, clarify me if i gt any flaw in my calculations plz..

the Work n Travel USA part, i dun thk cn make it as i checked Taylor's academic yr, the sem break max is 1 month oni whr they require at least 2 to 3 months of employment...
-oh yea, do the work n travel programme sponsore our USA flight tickets? if no then... shocking.gif
-hw did u hav a 4 month sem break 1?  hmm.gif
-if i doin foundation in engineering in nottingham(1 yr programme)...m i eligible for the programme? since they state at least 2 yrs...bt ill continue my degree for another 3yrs after my foundation...

sry SeLrAhC for my numbers of questions yea...bt since ure quite experienced in ths...plz clarify me on ths b4 u took off to USA again... notworthy.gif
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i think 100 k/year is an realistic amount for fees + living.

i think you should be able to cover based on that calculation. during summer i think you can work full time outside not just 40h/w if u had at least 9months of classes. u will be given j-1 visa i think. if you dont have enough 9 months, you will be able to work full time, but in campus only.

yea.. adp dont have long breaks, but to differ 1 sem is all worth it. u differ one time during ur 1st year, and while waiting to enter US you can go for a 2nd time.
-no they dont sponsor, it is around 3-5k for a return ticket. but you should still be able to make lots of $$$.
-i am from monash, so we have long summer breaks.. lol
-yes, if you're malaysians. foreign students need to at least study 2 years in msia

just glad to help ^^ i had to take the hard path through life and i hope you young ones out there dont have to suffer like i do and miss out all the good things in life ^^
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ahh...im in a hassle nw...!! nott foundation programme goin commence on 20th april! n the sem break is on 12/7 to 27/9 when i cn join the summer programme!!
-cn i register n join the programme nw?? when do i go 4 the interview?
-i dun hav visa or passport! hw long it takes to get them?
-wat shud i prepare b4 goin? wat r the things tat i shud bring along??? ahhh..so hectic!! tell me plz...SeLrAhC
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ahh...im in a hassle nw...!! nott foundation programme goin commence on 20th april! n the sem break is on 12/7 to 27/9 when i cn join the summer programme!!
-cn i register n join the programme nw?? when do i go 4 the interview?
-i dun hav visa or passport! hw long it takes to get them?
-wat shud i prepare b4 goin? wat r the things tat i shud bring along??? ahhh..so hectic!! tell me plz...SeLrAhC
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lol.. a lot of nottingham students go for the program in fact nott is the main source of participants... 60% of the students from msia that goes on W&T is from nott... ask students there, they all know about the program.

yes u can, dont wry. just email this lady called vernie my.enquiry@speedwing.org ... tell her charles introduced u and u need VIP service ^^ she will give u all d info

passport better apply now, u will need it eventually even if you are not going to W&T, err... i dunno lor.. passport either 3 days or 3 months

slowly ler.. u email her 1st, she will give u all d info XD
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lol.. a lot of nottingham students go for the program in fact nott is the main source of participants... 60% of the students from msia that goes on W&T is from nott... ask students there, they all know about the program.

yes u can, dont wry. just email this lady called vernie  my.enquiry@speedwing.org  ... tell her charles introduced u and u need VIP service ^^ she will give u all d info

passport better apply now, u will need it eventually even if you are not going to W&T, err... i dunno lor.. passport either 3 days or 3 months

slowly ler.. u email her 1st, she will give u all d info XD
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any tips to work wif which employer to earn better n whr de? las vegas cn a, charles? biggrin.gif
erm, if i go thr work 2 months, izzit worth the air ticket?
do the employer provide us accomodation n meals? or we hav to pay ourself, hw much roughly then?
m i too young(18yr o) to participate? ever seen a 18 student joined? my mum doesnt seem to blieve dis programme pulak(takut saya kena tipu)....zzz doh.gif

im askin so much.... sweat.gif doh.gif

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lol.. a lot of nottingham students go for the program in fact nott is the main source of participants... 60% of the students from msia that goes on W&T is from nott... ask students there, they all know about the program.

yes u can, dont wry. just email this lady called vernie  my.enquiry@speedwing.org  ... tell her charles introduced u and u need VIP service ^^ she will give u all d info

passport better apply now, u will need it eventually even if you are not going to W&T, err... i dunno lor.. passport either 3 days or 3 months

slowly ler.. u email her 1st, she will give u all d info XD
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SeLrAhC,

1) Great story!!! Congratulation!!

2) Would you mind summarizing the strategy that you use to achieve your goal??

Is it??

A) Enroll in 2 + 2 ADP program or University of Nottingham or so on.

http://www.speedwing.org/

B) While in Malaysia, use the work and travel program to work in USA during summer. Earn and save the money.

C) Use the money to finance the university course in USA. Work in USA part-time during semester and full-time during summer.

D) Graduate with Bachelor degree -> go into Master

In my family situation, the later generation has an easier path. My family is spread across 30+ countries in the world. So, usually, there is someone that they can lived with. So, room and board is closed to free. So, as per USA, if the room and board is free and you go to community college, USD 10K per year is enough. If the person work a bit, we just need to sponsor 5K per year excluding room and board. So, it is not that much more than local IPTA.

But, we STILL have a bunch of failures. Our nephews were TOO LAZY. They just party and never show up for class. Our nieces are doing fine.

Dreamer
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any tips to work wif which employer to earn better n whr de? las vegas cn a, charles?  biggrin.gif
erm, if i go thr work 2 months, izzit worth the air ticket?
do the employer provide us accomodation n meals? or we hav to pay ourself, hw much roughly then?
m i too young(18yr o) to participate? ever seen a 18 student joined? my mum doesnt seem to blieve dis programme pulak(takut saya kena tipu)....zzz  doh.gif

im askin so much.... sweat.gif  doh.gif
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ermm.. work for hmshost.. alot depends on luck also.. some places are for adventure/leisure.. some are for making $$$..

no lor, the best if of course 4 months if you wanna make $$$$, 2 months i dont think enough to break even

depends on the employer, some do some dont.. usually dont will pay more.. accomodation is not worth it, only meals... it depends on location..

18? u must at least be on college, yea.. 18 is the minimum age.. dont wry, it is not a scam.. once you are in nott, you will 100% get to know the program... every year there's at least 80-120 students from nott goes for this program.

QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Apr 19 2009, 04:34 AM)
SeLrAhC,

1) Great story!!!  Congratulation!!

2) Would you mind summarizing the strategy that you use to achieve your goal??

    Is it??

    A) Enroll in 2 + 2 ADP program or University of Nottingham or so on.

    http://www.speedwing.org/

    B) While in Malaysia, use the work and travel program to work in USA during summer.  Earn and save the money.

    C) Use the money to finance the university course in USA.  Work in USA part-time during semester and full-time during summer.

    D) Graduate with Bachelor degree -> go into Master

In my family situation, the later generation has an easier path.  My family is spread across 30+ countries in the world.  So, usually, there is someone that they can lived with.  So, room and board is closed to free.  So, as per USA, if the room and board is free and you go to community college, USD 10K per year is enough.  If the person work a bit, we just need to sponsor 5K per year excluding room and board.  So, it is not that much more than local IPTA.

But, we STILL have a bunch of failures.  Our nephews were TOO LAZY.  They just party and never show up for class.  Our nieces are doing fine.

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1) thanks.. just trying to go through life...hope this can help u guys better ^^
2) yea.. but my story is a bit diff... i did monash, 1st time was during my 2nd year... 2nd time was after my 4th years.. now is the last time bfore my convo in sept...

the strategy u wrote is the best option, but at D) after graduation, do 3 years OPT (by working 3 years u should have gotten tonnes of $$$$), then do your masters and do another 3 years OPT... by then i think u will have at least 1/2 million ringgit, and should be able to return proud or u can opt to apply for greencard/h1b

lol.. when kids are spoiled, they end up like that... a lot of 2nd gen asian american kids are like that... they parents struggle to get a US greencard through legal/illegal means from before.. and allow their kids to be citizens, but their kids grew up to be like real american kids... see sometimes also wanna slap
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malaysia education system is teach us how to memories, read what we read and not ecouraged creative. I never been oversea before but i know they learn how to think. If you want opportunity, please go study in oversea, our country education system is draw back


Added on April 19, 2009, 1:33 pmsry grammer mistakes because i getting sick today

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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Apr 19 2009, 10:16 AM)
ermm.. work for hmshost.. alot depends on luck also.. some places are for adventure/leisure.. some are for making $$$..

no lor, the best if of course 4 months if you wanna make $$$$, 2 months i dont think enough to break even

depends on the employer, some do some dont.. usually dont will pay more.. accomodation is not worth it, only meals... it depends on location..

18? u must at least be on college, yea.. 18 is the minimum age.. dont wry, it is not a scam.. once you are in nott, you will 100% get to know the program... every year there's at least 80-120 students from nott goes for this program.
1) thanks.. just trying to go through life...hope this can help u guys better ^^
2) yea.. but my story is a bit diff... i did monash, 1st time was during my 2nd year... 2nd time was after my 4th years.. now is the last time bfore my convo in sept...

the strategy u wrote is the best option, but at D) after graduation, do 3 years OPT (by working 3 years u should have gotten tonnes of $$$$), then do your masters and do another 3 years OPT... by then i think u will have at least 1/2 million ringgit, and should be able to return proud or u can opt to apply for greencard/h1b

lol.. when kids are spoiled, they end up like that... a lot of 2nd gen asian american kids are like that... they parents struggle to get a US greencard through legal/illegal means from before.. and allow their kids to be citizens, but their kids grew up to be like real american kids... see sometimes also wanna slap
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SeLrAhC, ure doin a great job thr! rclxms.gif thx 4 ur info so much! smile.gif
eh, btw, wat is OPT? hw n whr?
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SeLrAhC, ure doin a great job thr!  rclxms.gif  thx 4 ur info so much!  smile.gif
eh, btw, wat is OPT? hw n whr?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optional_Practical_Training

errr... wiki can give better answer than me XD
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Anyone here studied or studying in overseas now such as America, Australia, UK,Canada or anywhere around the globe?
Mind sharing your experience with us? as in how are the people over there? their lifestyle? how are they treating you? are there any racists? do you have alot of friends? are most of your friends your race(chinese,malays,indians) instead of white people and black people? are you happy with your decision to study overseas? do you regret for not staying back in Malaysia to continue your studies? do you get homesick every now and then? what's the difference between studying in overseas and studying locally?

List out what course, what college, which state, which country that your studying or had studied in and share your experience with everyone.

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Days before flying to Toronto is really scary, imagine, feeling separated from your family this far apart really sucked cry.gif . I remember it when i cried on the plane from Hong Kong to Toronto and there was this cheerful Canadian fat guy sitting beside me, he thought that i was a Hong Konger and he joked and talked to me non-stop trying to make me happy, although the jokes were lame to me that time, he was really the first Canadian guy i met in my entire life and is good one. That actually gave me courage. The first impression of Canada to me is really great, great airport, great peoples, clean, great weather (realized that it was insane later on the year). The immigrations were efficient and friendly as well. I never knew that there are THAT much of Chinese migrants there. I remember visiting the toilet where i felt like i'm in Asia. I've met quite a few Malaysians/Singaporeans there, but most of the SE asians there are Viets. The first person i met in Toronto after everything was settled was a singaporean guy. As time goes by, i can say my friend circle is really "multi-cultural", half asian half white and a few blacks. Canadians are extremely easy going, they are all already too familiar to this multi cultural scene. I can say racism does exists but it can be said there's virtually no serious rasicm in Toronto, there's once i was pointed the finger by some white guys, only once, didnt really bothered me. Everything is expensive here but it's actually expected, it's like having a meal in Starhill everyday but who says eating outside is a must? Cook yourself! Homesick is an "of-course lah.." thing, it's personal. But trust me, although Canada is sooo far apart, even the least dependent guy will cope well with the life here. It's super fun, in the holidays you may take a bus to NY, NY!!The city that we've seen in soo much on TV, CSI:NY, you know! I am happy that i'm able to study abroad Canada, it's beautiful, busy yet easy going, friendly, migrant-friendly and not to mention i am really starting to love the maple leaf now. The only only flaw about Canada is the weather, as a Malaysian i know we love cold weathers..waaah snow darn cool wth..No, you don't want that. It's ridiculously cold here! So guys! Consider Canada! Alot of degree here are recognized by Malaysian government, no worries ok! Try different flavors apart from OZ, UK, US! thumbup.gif

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Thank you everybody for your share of view and experience. Im studying ADP now and I'll be flying to US end of next year. Most likely i'll be studying in North Carolina. So anyone staying nearby, give me a holla and we can probably meet up and go on a road trip! Peace Yo ! wink.gif
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Woah what a great thread here, and I'm an ADTP student as well, started last year Jan and going to transfer to Us by end of this year, joining for Spring intake 2010. But too sad I know not much about University over there, and now I'm facing the problem, which university to choose sweat.gif

FYI I'm major in Chemical Engineering, CGPA around 2.5-2.7 unsure.gif it's quite low I know....Any recommendation?? Actually I prefer cheaper option, as my dad can't afford too expensive....I saw someone replied here before, P.I.M.P, at Nebraska, Lincoln, quite interested in this University actually, but where can I get some details like fees, requirements to enter this U?? I've visited to their website, and I can barely find details that I need in their website sweat.gif not sure it's my problem or the website problem.

Honestly, the biggest problem for me currently is MONEY, I know that I'm going to 'cost' my dad around rm200k+ in the following 2 years, and I'm planning to apply some loan before I get there, anyone here has applied a loan before transfer to Us?? Mind to recommend which loan is better and they will accept student like us, I mean transfer student. Or all of you here are born rich unsure.gif ??

Regardless the money issue, LANGUAGE shakehead.gif Chinese is my 1st language, and I just started to use English since I entered college sweat.gif pretty late I know, but before this I used to chat online by using English, err Manglish actually rclxub.gif And now I speak English in my college, with who can't speak in Chinese only, broken English to be honest. And now, it's getting closer for me to live in Us, and I'm getting afraid, how would I communicate with those Angmo hmm.gif not sure whether you guys have this problem or not, or English is yours 1st language. Any idea to improve my English, make it more fluent when I speak, and I know that plenty of grammar error will be found in my post doh.gif paiseh nia biggrin.gif
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Btw, about what to bring when I get there. So hand phone is not necessary? Clothes, and something for my daily use, hmm when comes to laptop, I'm using desktop now, what if I purchase laptop when I get there instead of getting one here and bring over there?

It's getting closer and I'm getting nervous unsure.gif unsure.gif Need some guidance from here notworthy.gif
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Hi! I'm an AUP student too except I'm transferring to Canada this Fall, even sooner than you.

Well Nebraska-Lincoln is a very popular choice for INTI AUP students, due to the entrances scholarship of $10k, I know a lot of Actuarial Science students going there (the student advisers completely brain-wash them, the only uni they know is UNL ....)
I got you UNL's cost & tuition fee website:
http://admissions.unl.edu/cost/
One year's cost would total about $30k, yeah RM100k plus a year...

I think loan should be your last resort though, you should probably work on campus to earn some $$ and as an engineering student, take advantage of any internships available or work/study programs, co-op programs. During summer holidays, work your butt off, you'd be able to raise a reasonable amount of cash, plus some financial help on your parents side, you'll do ok.

Why not instead of UNL, try looking into the State University of New York (SUNY) system, or California State University (Cal State) they're cheaper. For transfer students, I think SUNY Buffalo offer some kind of scholarship (small ones bout $2k I think) or Cal State Pomona, I heard its tuition fees are really reasonable.

Language-wise just speak more, and read more, and you can probably watch some American TV programs as well.

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can't help you with college, you gotta do more research on it. choose the one that will transfer the most credit hours and with sufficient expenses. you might not get as much credit hours transfer since your gpa is average.

your english is pretty good. need to worries on approaching to foreigner. you may stumble yourself in some embarrasing and awkward moments alot in the beginning, but gradually you should be able to pick up the pace.

you might want to bring over some of your favorite clothes. don't buy winter clothes in malaysia. laptop is affordable and cellphone is free but with contract.

btw when you reached here, look for financial aid of your school and get better grade to qualify for scholaship.
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Hmm Canada, what's your major and which University are you going over there?? Anyway, there must be some reason you choose Canada instead of Us rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

Thx for the information (UNL).

Err actually SUNY is my last option, it's easier to be approved by them, but I prefer others than this, that's why I placed it for my last option.

Haha now I'm kinda addicted to American TV programs, I don't think I have problem in writing, but when comes to speaking, I'm nervous icon_question.gif icon_question.gif


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-Can I check which subject that they(college) do accept for my major from their website??

-I'm worried how if when I reached there, and I can't find any shop that sells laptop nearby my place biggrin.gif sweat.gif

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QUOTE(zs3889 @ May 1 2009, 05:58 AM)
Btw, about what to bring when I get there. So hand phone is not necessary? Clothes, and something for my daily use, hmm when comes to laptop, I'm using desktop now, what if I purchase laptop when I get there instead of getting one here and bring over there?

It's getting closer and I'm getting nervous  unsure.gif  unsure.gif Need some guidance from here  notworthy.gif
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handphone they use 850 wor... i dont think can work properly.. my k750 800/900/1800 also cacat a bit 1...

laptop buy msia lar...

nervous what...zzzz... going to study only what

ppl choose canada coz easier to get pr i guess
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Yeah I picked Canada for the ease of getting a PR, safety (no guns), environment ( Vancouver is one of the best cities to live in, in the world according to surveys), also cheaper fees and other personal reasons.
And if I have the urge to go to US later, I'd just hop over the border (to go to grad school), US is just next door, I've relatives in US and my sis is going to study there next year, so no sweat.

Hmm well maybe you should look into Californian State Universities, there's another university system, in New York, City University of New York (CUNY) system, the fees are also reasonable, not sure about the reputation though but if you want to go to the Big Apple, their fees are rather reasonable.

I think you can check your college's study plans to see which credit can transfer.
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hmm.gif Don't really get what you say, the part I bolded...

blush.gif blush.gif Actually I wish to get a Macbook over there

Sure nervous la bro, changing to a new environment, leaving family and friends to another half of earth.... unsure.gif unsure.gif

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QUOTE(Jyou @ May 2 2009, 10:58 AM)
Major in Commerce (parent's choice), going to Vancouver to study.
Yeah I picked Canada for the ease of getting a PR, safety (no guns), environment ( Vancouver is one of the best cities to live in, in the world according to surveys), also cheaper fees and other personal reasons.
And if I have the urge to go to US later, I'd just hop over the border (to go to grad school), US is just next door, I've relatives in US and my sis is going to study there next year, so no sweat.

Hmm well maybe you should look into Californian State Universities, there's another university system, in New York, City University of New York (CUNY) system, the fees are also reasonable, not sure about the reputation though but if you want to go to the Big Apple, their fees are rather reasonable.

I think you can check your college's study plans to see which credit can transfer.
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cali uni system have 3 parts.... UCs , CSUs and CC.... UC is d most elite among d other... CSU is affordable... CC is to jump into UCs n CSUs easier

i think i might hop to canada too... easier to find life partner there

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hmm.gif Don't really get what you say, the part I bolded...

blush.gif  blush.gif Actually I wish to get a Macbook over there

Sure nervous la bro, changing to a new environment, leaving family and friends to another half of earth.... unsure.gif  unsure.gif
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gsm frequencies.... ours phones are 800/900/1800 for triband... they use 850... a bit out..sometimes network got prob

buy in msia lar.. make sure got international warranty can d

ur 1st time maybe scared ler..
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cali uni system have 3 parts.... UCs , CSUs and CC.... UC is d most elite among d other... CSU is affordable... CC is to jump into UCs n CSUs easier

i think i might hop to canada too... easier to find life partner there
gsm frequencies.... ours phones are 800/900/1800 for triband... they use 850... a bit out..sometimes network got prob

buy in msia lar.. make sure got international warranty can d

ur 1st time maybe scared ler..
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Yeap UC is more elite, more difficult to get in, you need year 12 I think (we Malaysians only have 11 years of education hence you'll need A Levels or STPM to get into the UCs)
CSU are easier to get in and cheaper too.
CCs, are Community Colleges, works the same as ADP/AUP

I see thanks, an international warranty would suffice, I thought I lost out buying my laptop here cause everyone is telling me that buying laptops in the states is cheaper.

Ooo its easier to find a life partner in Canada? How so?
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QUOTE(Jyou @ May 2 2009, 10:58 AM)
Yeah I picked Canada for the ease of getting a PR, safety (no guns), environment ( Vancouver is one of the best cities to live in, in the world according to surveys), also cheaper fees and other personal reasons.

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You better wake up to reality. What ever you are smoking is potent. Vancouver is safe??? . Vancouver is facing an all gang war. Whites, Punjabis and Chinese are killing one another over the control of drugs. No guns?? You never heard of BC pot(ganja) for Us guns trade.?? Want to read more . Goto www.cbc.ca Click on Canada and then BC. Latest headline...2 men found dead in a car. Use the CBC search engine and type in "vancouver gang war". and start reading. Innocent people had been caught ...at the wrong place at the wrong time. Better shed the fairytale image of Vancouver
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You better wake up to reality. What ever you are smoking is potent. Vancouver is safe??? . Vancouver is facing an all gang war. Whites, Punjabis and Chinese are killing one another over the control of drugs. No guns?? You never heard of BC pot(ganja) for Us guns trade.?? Want to read more . Goto www.cbc.ca  Click on Canada and then BC. Latest headline...2 men found dead in a car. Use the CBC search engine and type in "vancouver gang war". and  start reading. Innocent people had been caught  ...at the wrong place at the wrong time. Better shed the fairytale image of Vancouver
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Lol well yes I have heard of the gang wars happening in Vancouver, since you brought it up, I'm assuming you're living there? If you are, are these happening all over Vancouver or is it confined to certain areas? Any advice on places to avoid?

Of course I'm not saying Vancouver is perfectly safe, it's the same everywhere, there's always the risk of certain elements that poses danger to oneself, Malaysia we have our mat rempits, UK their football hooligans, Australia have racism problems, same with US and most multi-cultural countries.
If I wanted to live a fairytale I would have gone off to live in some European castle.
Still I think Canada is a notch safer than US due to their restrictions on guns. But if you have anything to share (as a resident there), please do enlighten me.
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QUOTE(Jyou @ May 2 2009, 11:34 PM)
Yeap UC is more elite, more difficult to get in, you need year 12 I think (we Malaysians only have 11 years of education hence you'll need A Levels or STPM to get into the UCs)
CSU are easier to get in and cheaper too.
CCs, are Community Colleges, works the same as ADP/AUP

I see thanks, an international warranty would suffice, I thought I lost out buying my laptop here cause everyone is telling me that buying laptops in the states is cheaper.

Ooo its easier to find a life partner in Canada? How so?
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errr... just take IB, it is highly recognized there... or u can just simply sit for SAT and score high...

if any1 plans to go us i would recommend UC... go for some not so famous ones and then transfer later...

no ler.. msia cheaper because they throw in stuff like mouse, bag, thumbdrive etc etc... us u only get d laptop n charger in a box

canada asians are more spread out... in US asians are only in certain places.. canada less racist XD

as for guns and weapons... i lived in the ghettos of LA inglewood.. pasadena & chinatown... no body dares touch me... lol...blacks are less friendly but that's they way it is... white r ok ok.. latins n asians r d friendliest...

in ancohrage now... every1 is friendly... guns is allowed... my neighbour gave me his rifle d other day... but took it back when i said i m going to walmart to buy ammo... lol
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QUOTE(Jyou @ May 2 2009, 11:34 PM)
Yeap UC is more elite, more difficult to get in, you need year 12 I think (we Malaysians only have 11 years of education hence you'll need A Levels or STPM to get into the UCs)
CSU are easier to get in and cheaper too.
CCs, are Community Colleges, works the same as ADP/AUP

I see thanks, an international warranty would suffice, I thought I lost out buying my laptop here cause everyone is telling me that buying laptops in the states is cheaper.

Ooo its easier to find a life partner in Canada? How so?
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Haha I heard that from somewhere too...


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Lol well yes I have heard of the gang wars happening in Vancouver, since you brought it up, I'm assuming you're living there? If you are, are these happening all over Vancouver or is it confined to certain areas? Any advice on places to avoid?

Of course I'm not saying Vancouver is perfectly safe, it's the same everywhere, there's always the risk of certain elements that poses danger to oneself, Malaysia we have our mat rempits, UK their football hooligans, Australia have racism problems, same with US and most multi-cultural countries.
If I wanted to live a fairytale I would have gone off to live in some European castle.
Still I think Canada is a notch safer than US due to their restrictions on guns. But if you have anything to share (as a resident there), please do enlighten me.
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Haha I heard that from somewhere too...

Goto Bestbuy.com or walmart.com. Can Malaysia beats US price???




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I have a question here, did you guys take subject like eco, history, socialogy, etc, in the group of humanities and social sciences..

So which one did you guys take, and which one is recommended? means which is probably accepted by University? I mean not all, probably.


Added on May 5, 2009, 1:53 pmAnyone here is major in chemical engineering icon_question.gif icon_question.gif Is csc202 necessary...??

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Both LAN subjects

I'm currently taking 2 subjects now before flying off to Canada.
These are one year worth of subjects and one semester (this year)
I took most of the subjects that are easy to transfer, that's all I can help with bro.

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Hey guys! smile.gif Been reading this thread a while now. Great!
I'm a form 5 student and I wish to do ADP 1+3 after my SPM in Graphic Design (I'm so into graphics)

Anyone taking Design here?
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Yes when you speak with them, of course you'll have the accent. Can't help it, even I myself have it. But when you're around your root, you can still switch back to Man-glish. Trust me, you can.

Unless you go to primary school there, then I understand. Then its almost impossible to change.
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What if you never spoke English before you started studying in the States? (me) Being a Malay, I've always known how to write but never really spoke the language, and I was forced to start speaking English when I got there at 20 y/o of age.

Hanging around them (Americans), I could only learn their way of pronunciation, and heck I was in the country side so I ended up using a lot of 'y'all'.

IMO, stereotyping Malaysians with American accents as snobs is just as bad as pretending you have a better social status because you studied overseas.

Right? and to think that some people accused me of being malay-hater cuz i got rid of my accent when I in fact, has never spoke Man-glish before.

EVER.

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3 yrs there can change ur accent of 19 years here. amazing.
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3 yrs there can change ur accent of 19 years here. amazing.
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It's not like I speak Malay with an American accent, lawls.

I just don't know how to speak English, with a Malaysian accent, with all the "lah"s and what not. Cuz I've never done it. Sue me.

edit: I guess sometimes the accent does come out, but I just don't speak Malay-english, phua chu kang style.

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I'm in ADP Taylors now and the best class so far i've taken is without a doubt, THEATER!!!
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Hi all, Im interested in Taylor's ADP.

It is indicated in their official website that Taylor's ADP for business is affiliated to a few good American Universities such as University of Wiconsin (Madison), Ohio State University and University of Southearn California. So my question is, how reliable is this information? Have anyone heard of Taylor's ADP student getting transferred to one of the above mentioned universities successfully? When they say 'affiliated', does it mean I'll be able to transfer majority of my credits?

Please advice guys. Thanks!
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I agree. What's wrong with the Malaysian accent? As long as you speak perfect English, there is nothing wrong if it sounds Malaysian. Nobody corrected the American Southerners or Irish or Welsh for their heavily-accented English, which I believe sound worse than Malaysian English. Just because they look more Anglo shouldn't be a reason to give them more credit for their spoken English.

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Sup CherryD, XIII| JarHead here..smile.gif spam spam spam=p
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Guys,
there is a club introducing studies in GERMANY for engineering courses as well as Business, Architecture, Medicine and Music, and they are doing a workshop study trip about University entry in Germany:

http://www.facebook.com/my.de.club#!/g...116471545034767

Have fun!
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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Apr 17 2009, 01:57 AM)
tq tq ^^ it is 0 celcius there now.. hope i can take it XD

err.. u wanna stay inside my luggage bag?

ermm.. not the employment interview but the embassy visa interview... if they think u cant converse properly then they might not issue u a visa.. but that's very rare... a little english will do
i left it in my us bank acc... i made total 12k wage + 3k tips.. after tax n expenses i made 13k usd ^^

ermm.. if u r studying the most u can make is 800usd.. but if u work like me 12 hours 6 days.. u will be able to make like 3k a month.. my friend works like crazy makes 4.5k.. sometimes we dont really work but just stay at the work place n get paid.. lol

we get tax.. from my 12k wage i got tax 1.1k.... so that means i take back 10.1k... but when i claim my tax back i claim 1.4k back.. lol.. what a joke.. please dont tell IRS, as i claim as a resident.. ahhahaa.. some ppl even worse claim their tax + 700usd.. lol.. instead of paying tax they pay u back with even more $$$
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this program sounds interesting.Do we need to pay certain amount of money before joining it.Besides that, what knid of work did you do and how's your typical working day is like?Pls, i'm very anxious to know.Thanks!! biggrin.gif
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When they say affiliated, they just mean that there were students who transfered to the Unis in US mentioned and the Unis in US mentioned recognizes the credits offered by Taylor's Uni.

And yes , many got into wisconsin and OSU, not so many applied and got into USC. The other good unis that adpians usually go to is UMich and IUB.

Cherry. You're still in ADP? I just finished my ADP last sem. smile.gif and i have to agree. theater is awesome.

and yes you'll be able to transfer around 3/4 of your credits smile.gif

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I am doing A-level and IELTS now, do i still have to sit for Sat 1 or/and Sat 2 ,TOEFL when I apply for Universities in US ? I started my A-level in Jan 2011, What timing should I take the exams ? Can I handle the exams only with my preparation in A-level ? Thanks in advance.
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If I'm not mistaken, if you have the IELTS, you don't need TOEFL. You have to sit for SAT 1 for sure, SAT 2 is optional. The exams are valid for about 2 years after you take them I think ... so time it so that it covers when you apply for your universities.

SATs are just math and english.
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I think what makes or break your overseas exposure is not the ranking of the university or how many PhD's your lecturer has, but rather the people whom you hang around with and the environment.

I'm into my first semester at Australia and I deeply regret not going for student hostel accommodation. Due to price, I opted to stay out on my own (apartment). As a result, I find it very difficult to get to know different mixes of people. I only hang around Malaysians in uni because 90% of my coursemates are Asians anyway (health science course..). On the other hand, my friend lives in a hostel-type environment and they have tonnes of activities, gatherings, fun & games.. etc.

Of course, this can change if you were to join clubs at university and go for events.

The bottom line is to.. socialise!


Prior to coming to Australia for my study, I went to China to do a short language course in which I actually stayed in a hostel environment and got to know many different people. I got to know people from different countries, different cultures. We taught each other about the places we come from and I was surprised at the amount of things I picked up.

I find life in Aussie a bit too laidback for me. However, things are done more efficiently here and people are more polite. I've also gotten used to seeing lots of public displays of affection, alcohol and homosexuality.

Personally, the experience is good. Live out on your own, be independent, find new friends. But at the end of the day I still consider Malaysia as home.. no matter how low the salary.
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good on you baoz. all I ever see are Malaysians sticking with Malaysians with the excuse that "they're in a new place and they want to get used to it by sticking with what they know first".

Stop wasting your parents' money if you're only going to stick with Malaysians. You can do that without leaving Malaysia.
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If I'm not mistaken, if you have the IELTS, you don't need TOEFL. You have to sit for SAT 1 for sure, SAT 2 is optional. The exams are valid for about 2 years after you take them I think ... so time it so that it covers when you apply for your universities.

SATs are just math and english.
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GCE-O level works too... in certain uni
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GCE O-Levels are for your regular curriculum and yes, are accepted. however, the SAT 1 is a must for everybody wanting to attend university in the USA.
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Do you mean GCE O level can replace TOEFL ?

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Erm..Anyone here had future studies At JAPAN?...need some guideline ,cause i saw most of peopel here is from UK / US / and other country...but just dont have any from JAPAN:)..thanks
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coming LYN edu thread to... help ppl? coz last time i remember i asked someone in here. Time to pay back i think laugh.gif
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QUOTE(popeye93 @ Apr 6 2011, 04:28 AM)
Do you mean GCE O level can replace TOEFL ?
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No. TOEFL or IELTS is required for international students coming in from countries whose native language is not English.
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QUOTE(tplus1 @ Apr 6 2011, 03:04 PM)
anyone have question about Korea can ask me. In Seoul studying currently.

coming LYN edu thread to... help ppl? coz last time i remember i asked someone in here. Time to pay back i think laugh.gif
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Oh yes you could help.
Get me some BB cream and Korean Ramen. =)
Are you in KU or SNU?
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QUOTE(mrvenkon @ Apr 6 2011, 09:34 PM)
Erm..Anyone here had future studies At JAPAN?...need some guideline ,cause i saw most of peopel here is from UK / US / and other country...but just dont have any from JAPAN:)..thanks
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wow, need master japanese in speaking and writting and even reading...my fwen study there, migrate there.. all bahan rujukan in japanese, even some english books gt japanese translation.. well, he says.. no me XD
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QUOTE(mrvenkon @ Apr 6 2011, 09:34 AM)
Erm..Anyone here had future studies At JAPAN?...need some guideline ,cause i saw most of peopel here is from UK / US / and other country...but just dont have any from JAPAN:)..thanks
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undergraduate in Japan will require fluency in Japanese because all classes are taught in Japanese. if you're doing graduate studies in Japan, then you'll have English taught classes, but even that depends on the university. I know ToDai offers graduate degree classes in English
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QUOTE(mrvenkon @ Apr 6 2011, 09:34 PM)
Erm..Anyone here had future studies At JAPAN?...need some guideline ,cause i saw most of peopel here is from UK / US / and other country...but just dont have any from JAPAN:)..thanks
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I know JPA sends kids over after doing their foundation here to toughen up language skills.

http://www.studyinjapan.org.my/04_study/04_study3_step4.html

Perhaps you should be more specific about what you want to find out.

There is a thriving Malaysian expat community working in Japan, mostly in the Kantou area. Those guys work loooong hours as far as I can tell.
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Anyone here studied or studying in overseas now such as America, Australia, UK,Canada or anywhere around the globe?
Mind sharing your experience with us? as in how are the people over there? their lifestyle? how are they treating you? are there any racists? do you have alot of friends? are most of your friends your race(chinese,malays,indians) instead of white people and black people? are you happy with your decision to study overseas? do you regret for not staying back in Malaysia to continue your studies? do you get homesick every now and then? what's the difference between studying in overseas and studying locally?

List out what course, what college, which state, which country that your studying or had studied in and share your experience with everyone.

Come on everyone share your experience!  rclxms.gif
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I am studying BSc Maths with Physics at University of Southampton at Southampton, England. Before that, I done a foundation at Cambridge Regional College at Cambridge, England.

During the time, I learned so much about the way of society works, government's policy, philosophy of life, etc. I try to not exaggerate too much but I seriously feel I learned more than my 5 years of secondary school. The reason I could think of is because when we experience different culture, it allows us to compare the both. It really opens up our prospective.

Racists do exists, but it has no way to avoid it unless we people mix enough to have same skins.

Academic-wise, I think local education is more intense (ie chemical eng need to learn programming language, islamic, moral, etc). The UK study is less intense, however it is not in my case due to the nature of my degree.

After all, students life are mean to be happiest or at least should be happiest. Make sure your study life is a memorable one.
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I study at the Aston Business School, I read their programme on accessmasterstour before applying. Ten of Aston Business School’s courses have been ranked in the top 100 in the UK and Western Europe in the Eduniversal Best Masters Ranking 2017. I am interested in MSc Human Resource Management & Business. The course is distinctive in grounding the study of HRM within the broader discipline of management, with an emphasis on change management and strategy.

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MOst of my friends studying overseas told me that they usually still stick with malaysians. They feel that there's a barrier for making close friends with the locals there. However some of my friends who are the only few malaysians in campus do manage to mix closely with local groups.
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MOst of my friends studying overseas told me that they usually still stick with malaysians. They feel that there's a barrier for making close friends with the locals there. However some of my friends who are the only few malaysians in campus do manage to mix closely with local groups.
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This is very true, but my experience with malaysians studying in the UK tend to not mix because they prefer sticking with Malaysian not the other way round. I suppose they are more comfortable with Malaysian/Singaporean that they “forgot” to make an effort to mix with locals.

My friend from uk told me that they felt difficult talking to foreigners because they like to stick among themselves and make little effort to mix with others

 

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