QUOTE(Geminist @ Sep 18 2008, 03:38 AM)
CEng.
1) BEng + Complete Master Level of education (e.g. ECUK exams) + CPD (Continuous professional development, this could be company scheme or self learning + work experience)
2) MEng + CPD (Continuous professional development, this could be company scheme or self learning + work experience)
Work experience, you are looking at about 4 years. AFAIK, IMechE doesn't specify a minimum working experience period but the general consensus is you wouldn't get your CEng. if you apply too early. Therefore, it will be a minimum of 3-4 years before you can acquire CEng. regardless of what your education level is.
I would like to know is it better to take ECUK exam or a MEng to get myself register with the body ? Is it better to get a MSc certificate as compared to ECUK exams ? Do they have class for ECUK exam ? ... how many papers in ECUK exam will I be expecting after BEng ?
One thing i realized is that I can work while taking ECUK exam... which is a advantage as i can gain working experience during the process. But ... it is also not easy to work and study for exam at the same time .... this worries me .
QUOTE(jinXxxx @ Sep 18 2008, 04:09 PM)
And to Criptonox89, if I could add on to what Geminist has said earlier, yes CEng status would be based more on what you do after you graduate, rather than what you graduate with. Typically, you would need to be working under a company with CPD for around 4 years to achieve this status. There are other ways to speed things up. For example, you could take a year out in your studies to do a placement (like I am) and have that year count towards your CEng. If you are looking towards achieving CEng, you would need to commit yourself to staying in the UK for a few years after graduation.
May i know is the placement you are referring equivalent to internship in malaysia ? ..
QUOTE(jinXxxx @ Sep 19 2008, 04:13 AM)
Well basically whatever Geminist has said

I myself am doing MEng Mechanical Engineering. My course is really in depth and long as I'm taking a placement year as well. That's a total of 5 years from First year till graduation. And I'm only entering my placement which is literally the halfway point of my course.
As far as job competitiveness goes, I'd say it's pretty even. Though most people who graduate with BEng would at some point go on to do PG (Post Graduate) Masters or even a PhD.
I hope that clears up all the doubt you have about studying in the UK. I would say that the experience of studying in the UK is one not to be missed.
PS: Geminist, if you don't mind me asking, where & when did you graduate from?

I am sure that I would take BEng too if I started my first year in UK because i can get into working world earlier. However, my case is different here. Im taking ELectrical and electroninc engineering degree at nottingham malaysia campus. If i take BEng, I will graduate in malaysia. Thus, i will not have opportunity to work in UK. In this case do you think i should take MEng to graduate in Nottingham UK in order to allow me to find job in UK upon graduation ? ... In addition, this not only allows me to have study experience in UK but also allows me to register with professional body. It's like hitting two birds with one stone.
Other way is to take MSc in UK after my BEng, this choice allows me to have more flexibility to choose my university for postgraduate.. However, I have difficulty in choosing course for my postgraduate study too as MSc is more specialize whereas MENg is more general and wider range..
QUOTE(jinXxxx @ Sep 19 2008, 03:37 PM)
Ah. Bradford. Not that far from Manchester then

Wow navilink. That's quite a question to ask lol. It would be a task to know exactly how all 4 stack up against each other but I can give you my account of English universities (Bath University in particular).
The people all over the UK generally are very friendly. Its just the task of getting to understand their speech that gets you. The further up north you go, the heavier the accent gets and the harder it is for you to pick it up. It will be a bit tough in the starting stages but most people will cope with the local accents.
Laidback environment is less apparent, but for the English, everything they do is during the day: from 8-5. And you can expect to go chill out with frens. Or you could also go for sports in the evening.
You won't be short of outdoor activities, there will be many societies and sports associations either at the University or even public (town/council) ones.
So that's England for you, time now to get them Scots, Welsh and Irish to come and have a go.
May i know what is the account of english universities are you referring ? ... i dont mind to check it out if you allow me to =)
Added on September 20, 2008, 1:51 amQUOTE(Geminist @ Sep 19 2008, 12:38 AM)
I have a BEng. and I am employed by a leading consultancy, so the answer is not really. I am also currently doing the ECUK examinations as part of my route to CEng.
Personally, I would suggest doing a Masters, BEng + MSc. for future proofing if possible. Although it is not required for the next few years, it would certainly become a more common standard in the future.
If you say that it will be a common standard in the future to have a master qualification, does it mean that taking MEng would help you more in the future ? I do realize there are similarities between MEng and MSc syllabus .. I consulted my lecturer and he told me that MEng and MSc is on same leve of qualification although one is undergraduate and another is postgraduate master. But, im not sure how the actual employers perceive them ...
This post has been edited by jasperng: Sep 20 2008, 01:51 AM