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post Sep 16 2008, 07:35 PM

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Discussion from previous topic continues here. Some posts moved here as well.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/304662/+2540
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post Sep 16 2008, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(Raining @ Sep 15 2008, 09:21 PM)
yalor, no choice. My luggage's weight now already 35 kg  sad.gif Overweight already, but dunno how to cut, everything also seems important to me but 1 kg + 1 kg... end up is quite alot.
yes you can, make appointment = no need to queue so long, I walk-in to apply for 5~6 times, no issue at all  sad.gif

now I facing new problem, my father ask me to help him buy share when I reach there, any1 know how to buy find brokers which can be trust in UK?  sweat.gif (sorry to ask question which is unrelated to the thread sad.gif )
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Perhaps you can have a quick list of stuff you are bringing and we can see if there's anything you can remove? I would avoid having too much cloth because you can buy them here and they're cheap when it's sale season.

About a trading account, you can consider HSBC Invest Direct. They don't have any annual fees which makes life a lot easier as you are only charged per trade (£10 IIRC). You'll have a discount as well if you go over a certain number of trades. This account is ideal for buy to hold.

There are accounts that charge you a lower fee for each trade but you'll need to pay for an account maintenance fee each year. You'll need to do the math and see which one is better.



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post Sep 17 2008, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(Arturia @ Sep 16 2008, 11:53 PM)
lets say....i buy a phone under contract (lets say its phone A) and then i want to see phone B and want to go for it. can i juz return phone A and go for phone B or do i have to go and wait for the contract to end? anyway ways that i can change from phone A to phone B?

another scenario i wan to ask is, lets say a phone is slated to come out soon. so i buy a contract (example: GBP35 for 12 months) without the phone and then the phone comes out and its free with a contract of GBP35 for 18 months. can i juz upgrade?

edit: anyone ever used carphone warehouse? or mobile.co.uk? are they good?
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For both scenario, I think there are some flexibility for return but I don't think it works that way. So in short, I think you would need to stick to the phone you first bought.

QUOTE(~PussyDevil~ @ Sep 17 2008, 02:53 PM)
Which network offers the best deal?
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I'd stay away from Vodafone.

A thing I would like to stress about working part time. Don't forget you are there to study. Unless if you are working part time to support your study or your daily living expenses, don't work to hard to a point it would compromise your studies.
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QUOTE(Criptonox89 @ Sep 18 2008, 02:29 AM)
Thanks a lot for your reply.

I'm planning to do Mechanical Engineering, still deciding between BEng and MEng. Do you mind explaining about the CEng application in UK? If i were to take BEng, could i be a CEng? How many years i've to work for?

If i were to take MEng, i can get the CEng title straight away after examination from ECUK?

Is that recommended to stay in university accommodation? How's their university accommodation? Would it be too worn? or bad hygiene? Is there any sorta like studio room there?

Btw, i believed working >20hrs/week is illegal right? How many % will be taxed by government? As I'm studying at Malaysia now, i found being a part-timer is really hard, as no shop is gonna employ you for the 4-5 hrs a day, is that possible to happen in UK?

Thanks again for your kindness, i feel more confident... thumbup.gif
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CEng.
1) BEng + Complete Master Level of education (e.g. ECUK exams) + CPD (Continuous professional development, this could be company scheme or self learning + work experience)

2) MEng + CPD (Continuous professional development, this could be company scheme or self learning + work experience)

Work experience, you are looking at about 4 years. AFAIK, IMechE doesn't specify a minimum working experience period but the general consensus is you wouldn't get your CEng. if you apply too early. Therefore, it will be a minimum of 3-4 years before you can acquire CEng. regardless of what your education level is.

University accommodation
Yes take it. Usually they are fairly good. Yes there are studio rooms but it will cost more.

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Yes more than 20 hours would be illegal. You are a student so you will not be taxed. I used to work in Hilton during weekends on evening. Usually about 6-12am and usually I get free dinner as well (left overs).

There are also shops that would hire you for a few hours per day once or twice every week. Working student are fairly common so most shops would be flexible with the hours.


Added on September 18, 2008, 3:40 am
QUOTE(Arturia @ Sep 17 2008, 10:37 PM)
lol...u can carry 30kg. but u have to give ur agent (or something like that im nt sure myself) ur proof that ur going there to study. example such as ur unconditional offer letter and the passport that shows ur student visa.

for check in luggage there is a restriction. u can read here:

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...9807&sec=nation
now the visa will take 8-10 working days to process if the application is straighforward (no need interview) if need interview is 20days. check here for more info:

http://www.vfs-uk-my.com/


Added on September 17, 2008, 10:40 pm

thankx biggrin.gif maybe its better for me to just get the prepaid and wait for the phone i like then transfer from the prepaid to the contract biggrin.gif if within same telco, can transfer rite? how?
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Yes you can transfer the number but it would take a few days etc. You can ask for your number to be transferred to a different telco if you want to.

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QUOTE(Criptonox89 @ Sep 18 2008, 07:03 PM)
Well, that's great. I don't mind working rather harder on the first few years, money is kind of a concern for me, 1 more year in UK gonna cost me RM100k more. Being a BEng, would I be a 'loser' when come to employment(intense competition?), which might lead to unemployment.

After surfing, asking, listening from all of you guys, guess I'll be doing BEng as it doesn't really affect my pathway becoming a CEng. Really, Thanks a lot guys!! notworthy.gif
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I have a BEng. and I am employed by a leading consultancy, so the answer is not really. I am also currently doing the ECUK examinations as part of my route to CEng.

Personally, I would suggest doing a Masters, BEng + MSc. for future proofing if possible. Although it is not required for the next few years, it would certainly become a more common standard in the future.
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QUOTE(jinXxxx @ Sep 19 2008, 04:13 AM)
Well basically whatever Geminist has said smile.gif

I myself am doing MEng Mechanical Engineering. My course is really in depth and long as I'm taking a placement year as well. That's a total of 5 years from First year till graduation. And I'm only entering my placement which is literally the halfway point of my course.

As far as job competitiveness goes, I'd say it's pretty even. Though most people who graduate with BEng would at some point go on to do PG (Post Graduate) Masters or even a PhD.

I hope that clears up all the doubt you have about studying in the UK. I would say that the experience of studying in the UK is one not to be missed.

PS: Geminist, if you don't mind me asking, where & when did you graduate from? smile.gif
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QUOTE(jasperng @ Sep 20 2008, 01:46 AM)
I would like to know is it better to take ECUK exam or a MEng to get myself register with the body ? Is it better to get a MSc certificate as compared to ECUK exams ? Do they have class for ECUK exam ? ... how many papers in ECUK exam will I be expecting after BEng ?

One thing i realized is that I can work while taking ECUK exam... which is a advantage as i can gain working experience during the process. But ... it is also not easy to work and study for exam at the same time .... this worries me .
May i know is the placement you are referring equivalent to internship in malaysia ? .. 
I am sure that I would take BEng too if I started my first year in UK because i can get into working world earlier. However, my case is different here. Im taking ELectrical and electroninc engineering degree at nottingham malaysia campus. If i take BEng, I will graduate in malaysia. Thus, i will not have opportunity to work in UK. In this case do you think i should take MEng to graduate in Nottingham UK in order to allow me to find job in UK upon graduation ? ... In addition, this not only allows me to have study experience in UK but also allows me to register with professional body. It's like hitting two birds with one stone.

Other way is to take MSc in UK after my BEng, this choice allows me to have more flexibility to choose my university for postgraduate.. However, I have difficulty in choosing course for my postgraduate study too as MSc is more specialize whereas MENg is more general and wider range..
May i know what is the account of english universities are you referring ? ... i dont mind to check it out if you allow me to =)


Added on September 20, 2008, 1:51 am

If you say that it will be a common standard in the future to have a master qualification, does it mean that taking MEng would help you more in the future ?  I do realize there are similarities between MEng and MSc syllabus .. I consulted my lecturer and he told me that MEng and MSc is on same leve of qualification although one is undergraduate and another is postgraduate master. But, im not sure how the actual employers perceive them ...
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ECUK exams is there basically to just top up your education level. It's a pass/fail thing. You expect 4 papers + 1 project. Exams are held once a year around May.

I would recommend getting a Masters if possible because it also has other additional benefits. One important thing is make sure your MSc. is recognised by the professional body you register to. It's not that difficult to study while working. It will only be more challenging if you have to work late, i.e. over 5.30pm until 7pm or 8pm.

I am personally inclined to take MSc instead of MEng as discussed previously.

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QUOTE(Criptonox89 @ Sep 24 2008, 02:17 AM)
As 1 paper each year, gonna take up 4 years in total, but then one will have enough recognized working experience, and liable to apply for CEng. Correct me if i'm wrong.

If one were to take Msc after BEng/MEng, he/she still has to work in order to accumulate enough working experience right?

So basically it's the matter that whether or not you wanna study while working. Is that possible if i were to avoid the ECUK exams, by working after graduation(BEng), then only i get a Msc after i've got enough cash? What matters me is 1 more year in UK gonna cost my dad another 100k.

Thanks.
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You are free to take as many subjects as you like within the limit (I recall it's 4). Your project can go concurrently with your exams.

Yes you can do that. The ultimate rule is when you apply for CEng, you will need to have a Master's level of education.


Added on September 24, 2008, 2:30 amOh and one more thing, I used to think about continuing my Masters after working when I have the cash.

However, having worked for two years, I have decided to take ECUK exams or part time studies because I don't find going back to university that much interesting as compared to working (experience + income).

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QUOTE(Criptonox89 @ Sep 24 2008, 02:32 AM)
I see. Which means things we were examined in ECUK papers also equivalent to a Master. Roughly how much does each paper costs?


Added on September 24, 2008, 2:34 am
Yea, that's what worrying me. Even my dad asked so.  tongue.gif


Added on September 24, 2008, 2:37 amOh yea, if i've already titled as CEng, Does it matter if i have a BEng only, while the rest are BEng, Msc, CEng or MEng, CEng?
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Each paper cost about £100. Project cost about £300.

No one really gives a toss when you have CEng. But having a longer title on your business card always look nice biggrin.gif

Sorry, I clicked "edit" on your post by accident.

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QUOTE(acwc @ Sep 24 2008, 02:47 AM)
halooo~~~ which hp service provider is better? i'm going to sign contract...thanx
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Depends, but I'd stay away from Vodafone.
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QUOTE(Arturia @ Sep 24 2008, 03:03 AM)
many ppl seems to sing praises for O2 so i'll go for O2 when i go there biggrin.gif what is wrong wif vodafone btw? expensive?
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Expensive, increased mine and my partner's bill without telling us, changed our price plan without telling us, doesn't give a toss about existing customer by offering crappy deals but offers wonderful deals for new customers and unhelpful customer service.

O2 is pretty alright as I haven't had any problems with them so far and they have been very helpful when I needed to transfer my phone number.

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QUOTE(Arturia @ Sep 24 2008, 05:50 PM)
got a question. is there such thing as winter shoes or do we need to buy a shoe specific for winter???

if need be, then recommend some brand or type. (note: for MALE tongue.gif don go giving me high heels am tall enough tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif)
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Never really needed one before. I wear normal shoes only, even during winter.
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QUOTE(jasperng @ Sep 24 2008, 10:21 PM)
So, you are implying that a recognised master will allow me to skip ecuk exam and register with the body ?
If im not wrong, I believe they will only start counting the required 4 years experience once you register with them. This means that you only can register with the body after 4 years of ECUK exam plus 4 years working experience making it total of 8 years to obtain the eligibility to apply for CEng.

Correct me if im wrong. Thanks


Hmm, Im not sure whether working while studying is a good choice. But, it is undeniable that doing so will allow me to gain experience and at the same time obtain qualification by the end of your study.  However, if you consider the duration to obtain the eligibility to apply for CEng, which is Total duration for ECUK Exam + 4 years working experience, do you think it is worth to wait so long instead of taking a master for 1 year and start counting the 4 years working experience as you can register with the body?

so do you recommend ECUK instead of Master as it is a professional qualification ? Do they have class or practical class for ECUK exam ? ....
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1) I do not know where this registration with them before you start working rule came from. Your work experience will always be true regardless of whether you are registered or not. Also, AFAIK, this 4 years is an arbitrary figure.

If you start taking your ECUK exams in the first year of your work, you need about 2-3 years to complete it (unless you failed some subjects). You can apply for your CEng once you have completed your ECUK exams + when you have enough working experience. This should be about 4-5 years since the first day you start working.

2) People tend to get confused with "register". I am registered with IMechE as an affliate since the first day I started my studies. Most body allows you to do this, so you can do this at an early stage if you're worried.

There are different grades in a professional body. It only matters when you want to apply as a member or your CEng. Most CEng./Member application goes hand in hand.

3) Yes. Your Masters need to be recognised. If you have that, you don't need to take any ECUK exams.

4) I am not aware of any practical class for the ECUK exams, I did all the studies on my own. They have some lecturers email for people to ask question, I sent mine in and non responded.





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QUOTE(Xp3rT @ Sep 25 2008, 01:39 AM)
yes recognised master + professional development + professional review is the usual pathway to CEng.

and yes a minimum of 8 years.

i recommend to do a master degree instead. because you'll learn more skills to master level with a year of study at master level.
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Eh?

http://www.engc.org.uk/documents/CEng_IEng_Standard.pdf

See Page 12 & 13. There is no minimum time requirement.
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QUOTE(Xp3rT @ Sep 25 2008, 09:51 PM)
hm.

should have said 'usually, by average, it takes abt 8 years' in order to fully exercise/achieve the competences.
you will get magazine from IEEE weekly IIANM and plenty of guidelines towards the professional development.

usually, people will join IEEE when they are working as a engineer / upon graduation.
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I see.

The reason I'm saying this is because in the company I work in, people usually go for CEng. on the 4th or 5th year since they first started working fresh out of university.


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QUOTE(Arturia @ Oct 1 2008, 11:06 PM)
okay. noted biggrin.gif

exactly 24hours to go before flight. feeling nervous (somehow not excited) cry.gif

how cold will it be now in UK? will i need to wear a vest to go there tomorrow? since i'll be wearing a suit biggrin.gif

oh SELAMAT HARI RAYA!!!!
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I wouldn't like going on a plane with a suit. Why do you not wear something more comfortable or do you prefer suit?
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QUOTE(lord @ Oct 9 2008, 01:18 AM)
why not you change it to
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Always keep the postcode in. There is a good chance for people to find you with your room number + postcode, better than having a few lines of address without postcode.
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I reckon most of you should be aware of this, but this is just for the sake of prevention.

I noticed recently there's a barage of authentic looking emails claiming to be from banks (mine is HSBC) with all sorts of reasons trying to get you to click on a link to a fake HSBC website where they can phish for your account info.

Remember never ever log on to bank, paypal etc websites using a link from your email.
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QUOTE(Criptonox89 @ Oct 13 2008, 12:56 AM)
Hello gus,

Am wondering if ECUK (CEng, IMechE) recognizes 2+1 BEng.? Which means only ONE year in UK only

Thanks guys..
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1) Check if your university + course is in the recognised list. If in doubt, contact IMechE.

2) With BEng, you can only apply for IEng. You'll need a Master or an equivalent level of education for CEng.


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QUOTE(lanun8 @ Oct 17 2008, 04:27 AM)
http://www.topupnow.co.uk/

malaysia (landline) ........................................ local rate* pence/min
malaysia (cellular) ........................................ 0.5 pence/min

i believed it is the cheapest rates to call hp @ malaysia..
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What does the local rate* pence/min means? How much is local rate?

Have you used this service before?

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