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Home Theatre LCD and Plasma TV Discussion Thread | V3, Which is right for you?

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ar188
post Jan 12 2009, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(ic-klass @ Jan 12 2009, 02:53 PM)
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ok i accepted your "bad" that leads to this firery discussion. i agree with you that full HD give better resolution than HD - and noticeable within certain viewing distance. But, i have to disagree with  higher number  always give better PQ.

and believed me when i say i do have experience BD and Full HD materials/display, despite my "aging" setup. The reason my setup is like that bcoz that the most one i use for our SD braodcast - for my kids to tune to Ceria and carton network, etc..I do have a Full hd setup to enjoy the HD materials, but, why reveals here - To assume one doesnt know the diff between HD and full HD just because one is using SD is really lame..I let my previous comments and answer to our forumer Q's be the judge wether i'm qualified or not - doesnt really bother me at all.

and yes Western is the opposite of Eastern if you havent realised yet. Funny you are so deep in tech, and yet dunno east,west,north,south - maybe need someone to point it out to u ehh.. blush.gif

When you look back at my previous posting, not once did i mentioned SD/HD is better that Full HD right??. I only stressing that some HD/"not so HD" unit do have good reviews and beats its full hd counterparts in term of overall PQ - now you tell me what's wrong with this. I guess it all depend how many pixel u wanna see as opposed to how good and real the image and colour reproduction, and how smooth and life-like the movement of the subject is, and how many other components and software render these input and later displayed it play a major role - that's what i meant number is nummber, PQ is diff.

If you dont agree get two or three set together and demo it with the same source and setting - side by side (plasma v plasma, lcd v lcd). Then you realised a full hd sony will give different PQ to what a full HD samsung or LG or phillips or ..what else ?? in term of colour saturation, real red and green, motion, details, etc...

If you understand these, then i rest my case. If you dont, then ...i duont really care - as what the other forumer said " its your eyes and money.."


Added on January 12, 2009, 2:58 pm

Yes, i knew i heard bout the Buzz problem somewhere. Hope u enjoying your "new" display now . rclxms.gif
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ok peace.. icon_rolleyes.gif smile.gif

words and different view points lead to "fiery" discussion, but anyway it's just a discussion... but the Kuro 428 is really top range setup for SD (like DVDs and Astro etc) and I believe those european awards are given merit based on reviews on SD sources at that time (early to mid 07 maybe?)
however this resolution, I feel, maybe a tad lacking when all those HD pixels from the source are wasted/not displayed on screen (even 720p resolution sources)..

anyway, cheers! biggrin.gif
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post Jan 13 2009, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(ic-klass @ Jan 12 2009, 10:31 AM)
give panasonic a call. i remember reading somewhere about the buzzing sound - but not sure which forum. dont worry coz you have 5 year warranty ma. Mine also no buzz sound. may be you can ask their tech to come and listen to the buzz.. cool.gif


Added on January 12, 2009, 10:32 am

what level do you set for P-NR? or turn it off all together?
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my 42pv80 only use for Astro and I just set it to Eco mode and let the CATS take the control. just suit my eye. smile.gif
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post Jan 13 2009, 01:08 AM

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Pioneer has the smallest booth (compared to sony, samsung, LG, panasonic, toshiba) in CES 2009, Las Vegas.

its booth size is like TCL company.

it focuses on the car audio more than the home AV.

lol...losing the pace in flat panel tv market already.


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post Jan 13 2009, 01:12 AM

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sharp this model LC42A85M how much it cost right now?
aiming for this model
other smilar function with SONY brand?
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post Jan 13 2009, 08:08 AM

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Glad to see peace between you ar188, and you ic-klass. Really enjoy reading your postings ... hmm, not that i enjoy seeing the war between 2 forumers, but you guys seems so knowledgeable, and i think most ppl would benefit from reading the few postings from both of you earlier ...

I had never compare a BD sources on Full HD Plasma and 42" 428 b4 ... after reading your posts, feel really like to go to shop try ask them to try for me brows.gif

Anyway, cheers
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post Jan 13 2009, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(slk5538 @ Jan 13 2009, 08:08 AM)
Glad to see peace between you ar188, and you ic-klass. Really enjoy reading your postings ... hmm, not that i enjoy seeing the war between 2 forumers, but you guys seems so knowledgeable, and i think most ppl would benefit from reading the few postings from both of you earlier ...

I had never compare a BD sources on Full HD Plasma and 42" 428 b4 ... after reading your posts, feel really like to go to shop try ask them to try for me  brows.gif

Anyway, cheers
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hehe sometimes discussion is fiery..but at the end just discussion.. later can go tehtarik wan.. rclxms.gif

anyway, some examples of TV reviews which I think are quite comprehensive and objective.. from 2 main US mags, like sound & vision and Home theater..

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/StaticFi...S&V_PRO-111.pdf

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/StaticFi...ter_PRO-111.pdf
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post Jan 13 2009, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(okhui26 @ Jan 11 2009, 11:14 AM)
Just get my Sharp LC42A65M yesterday, the PQ damn nice and good. Even watch movie or connected to the laptop, the screen seem smooth and nice.

Later need to celebrate cos this is the 1st time i using 42" LCD TV for internet, wahahahahahah!

Thanks to htkaki, good service and good advice were provided.
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Welcome to the Sharp LC42A65M club smile.gif Enjoy this great LCD TV biggrin.gif
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post Jan 13 2009, 07:18 PM

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I think of getting a Plasma but was a bit put off by the glass panel it used. I think this mainly due to my hall setup where there is light source behind me. The glossy glass front surface of a plasma screen will produce mirror-like reflections that compete with the image being displayed and this get reflected. Would like to know how your handle this?

Or should I get LCD... Thanks. smile.gif
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QUOTE(volcane @ Jan 13 2009, 07:18 PM)
I think of getting a Plasma but was a bit put off by the glass panel it used. I think this mainly due to my hall setup where there is light source behind me. The glossy glass front surface of a plasma screen will produce mirror-like reflections that compete with the image being displayed and this get reflected. Would like to know how your handle this?

Or should I get LCD... Thanks.  smile.gif
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if the reflection irritates you the most, you can consider more on the LCD tv. smile.gif

alternatively, you can put on the thicker curtains to prevent the light source from outdoor.
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post Jan 13 2009, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(Exarkun @ Jan 13 2009, 10:56 AM)
Welcome to the Sharp LC42A65M club smile.gif Enjoy this great LCD TV biggrin.gif
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Yeah! rclxms.gif

Really love my LCD, hehe.


Added on January 13, 2009, 8:39 pm
QUOTE(stupid @ Jan 13 2009, 01:12 AM)
sharp this model LC42A85M how much it cost right now?
aiming for this model
other smilar function with SONY brand?
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If you wan to know the price for model LC42A85M, u can ask from htkaki. biggrin.gif


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post Jan 14 2009, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(volcane @ Jan 13 2009, 07:18 PM)
I think of getting a Plasma but was a bit put off by the glass panel it used. I think this mainly due to my hall setup where there is light source behind me. The glossy glass front surface of a plasma screen will produce mirror-like reflections that compete with the image being displayed and this get reflected. Would like to know how your handle this?

Or should I get LCD... Thanks.  smile.gif
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If you really like plasma, then try to alter your light source. If it is a window, then put up thicker curtain and etc. If you light source is not alterable (which I don't think so), then you should really consider LCD. Light reflection on Plasma screen could really add strain to your eyes.

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QUOTE(slk5538 @ Jan 14 2009, 08:05 AM)
If you really like plasma, then try to alter your light source. If it is a window, then put up thicker curtain and etc. If you light source is not alterable (which I don't think so), then you should really consider LCD. Light reflection on Plasma screen could really add strain to your eyes.
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I think you should add, "an LCD with a matte screen". Many of the latest LCD TVs are coming out with reflective screens, and so will be in the same boat as a Plasma.

On a side note, I've noticed Panasonic's plasma screens deal with overhead lighting better than LCDs, which tend to wash out as their matte screens capture the light. Reflective LCD screens don't seem to have this problem but then they reflect front lighting... smile.gif

Different brands also reflect light differently (eg, LG plasmas reflect a lot more than Panny's multi-coated panels) so shop patiently and carefully. Visit many shops with different lighting environments and you will get a good idea of how the various panels handle the lighting, e.g. Tesco has very bright top-lighting, small outlets have loads of sunlight from the front, Harvey has a dim environment much like your house ambient light.

I think most of the fun in owning a widescreen is in the shopping and comparison part, so... happy shopping! ;-)
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QUOTE(99below0 @ Jan 14 2009, 11:30 AM)
I think you should add, "an LCD with a matte screen". Many of the latest LCD TVs are coming out with reflective screens, and so will be in the same boat as a Plasma.

On a side note, I've noticed Panasonic's plasma screens deal with overhead lighting better than LCDs, which tend to wash out as their matte screens capture the light. Reflective LCD screens don't seem to have this problem but then they reflect front lighting... smile.gif

Different brands also reflect light differently (eg, LG plasmas reflect a lot more than Panny's multi-coated panels) so shop patiently and carefully. Visit many shops with different lighting environments and you will get a good idea of how the various panels handle the lighting, e.g. Tesco has very bright top-lighting, small outlets have loads of sunlight from the front, Harvey has a dim environment much like your house ambient light.

I think most of the fun in owning a widescreen is in the shopping and comparison part, so... happy shopping! ;-)
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agree with you, generally, LG's plasma is more reflective than Panasonic's plasma.

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i guess all this discussion, boils down to personal usage - movies, astro, computer or bluray. also not forgetting is personal brand loyalty. some like Sharp, due to the familiarity and taste. in the end what we want is value for money and satisfaction. rclxms.gif
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Guys...I mean Sharp LCD kakis,
I've just got the LC46A65M. Can anybody share the best settings for the LCD or at least the required settings to make the LCD run at its best? biggrin.gif

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guys thanks for the advise... looks like I will get the LCD. Only way to change my light source was turn it off tongue.gif The light source behind was from my plaster ceiling, to alter it will be costly.

Turn off light for Movie viewing is ok, but for Astro not my preference.
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jan 14 2009, 05:50 PM)
Guys...I mean Sharp LCD kakis,
I've just got the LC46A65M. Can anybody share the  best settings for the LCD or at least the required settings to make the LCD run at its best? biggrin.gif
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One thing about Sharp is that I find the DEFAULT setting is already quite pleasing. I'm using the LC42A65M. Same goes with okhui26. Mebbe ask him what his setting is.
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how much for SHARP LC46A83M. It got 100Hz.
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sony lcd? i think its the best . change me
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sony x-series only la.. tongue.gif

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