LCD Monitor Thread v4.0 (FYI: LCD MONITOR ≠ LCD TV)


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This post has been edited by kianwee: Aug 14 2010, 02:01 PM

izit any diff that lcd panel make by local manufacturer or oversea's ?
eg: samsung

wat software is capable to test dead pixel?

This
Dead Pixel Tester

waaa now oredi v4..btw jus got my 2408wfp few day ago..really superb nice lcd

hey thanx dude...ure da beszzz

how much did you get it for?

i thought v4.0 for next gen LCD. huhu.

can i know HP W2207H at lowyat plaza which shop got sell??

cause i see most of shop only sell HP W2207 only!

no thx bro
btw nobody know the diff bout local manufacture lcd vs foreign 1?

maybe the thread starter can update the first post with some useful links about LCD such as dead pixel tester software, etc...

Will do in a minute.

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Added on June 22, 2008, 2:30 pmhttp://www.yeahstore.com/index.php?cPath=2...c5a25d720446af4

This post has been edited by kianwee: Jun 22 2008, 02:30 PM

was going through yeahstore. W2207H is cheaper there.
However warranty for LCD is only 3 mths. Do take note!

For me, I dont mind paying more for longer warranty periods.

Just get from HP Store for your peace of mind.

https://h50198.www5.hp.com/store/default.asp?

Highly recommend you add these in....

Eizo Monitor Test (direct download)

LCD monitor test images

Nokia Monitor Test

Done, keep those rolling

omg...... V4 now.

I want a 22LCD
anyone selling ?

any 226bw user???
i got prob after upgrade vista
the magictune seems not working

Please bear in mind shops who do not honour the 12months HP standard warranty 'might' be selling parallel imported goods and should anything untoward happens, HP service center might not entertain the warranty request.....and yes every product can be tracked by s/n from any authorised distributor. My advise, if you should buy HP goods, get them with the proper 12 months warranty.

i have a 7600gt.
possible for this card to support 22" lcd ?
another question s.. which lg's model u guyz do recommand ?

u play games??if not sure ok one..my fren using 20" LCD,his 8800GT have to oc to get nice fps in game..

No problemo... I have 7600GT on 22"

Oh yeah, for those wondering the difference between "16.2 million colors" and "16.7 million colors" TN panels, check this The Lagom LCD monitor test pages - Black Level. For your information, most "16.7 million colors" TN panels used "(Advanced) Temporal dithering / dynamic dithering" also known as "Hi-FRC".

Hi all. I'm still holding on to my 15 inch LCD monitor that came with my Dell desktop. If there is any chance that the monitor finally fails, and since 15 inch is so rare, can I get a 17 inch? My ancient graphics card apparently has a max resolution of 2048 x 1536 I think.

Any extra cables? Or just plug and play the 17 inch or bigger?


Geforce4 MX 420 64MB btw

This post has been edited by allornothing: Jun 23 2008, 09:24 AM

There shouldn't be any problem using that old graphics card on 17" and even bigger screens... I've used an old GeForce2 Pro on my 22" before...

Just a rough guide on native LCD screen resolutions...

15" = 1024 x 768
15" & 17" widescreen = 1280 x 800
17" & 19" = 1280 x 1024
19" widescreen = 1440 x 900
20" = 1600 x 1200
20" & 22" widescreen = 1680 x 1050
24" & 27" widescreen = 1920 x 1200
30" widescreen = 2560 x 1600

This post has been edited by lex: Jun 23 2008, 10:21 AM

Really?! That's good to hear. Then if this one fails I'll get an even bigger one

Still, thanks a lot. At least hardware obsolescence doesn't cripple me much from this aspect. And living with 1024 x 768 is just not enough anymore

Just bought at cycom a month ago, cost me RM1030
Superb LCD

I use onboard graphic to power it, no problem xD

I have HP2207H, Samsung SyncMaster 205BW, and Dell 1908FP
Side by side comparison xD


That's how we make you make used of tilted LCD, wikipedia ftw


I have a problem there, my HP LCD only support HDMI, non of my desktop currently support it, which means i have to use VGA right now which is a big waste, any suggestion what i shouud?

This post has been edited by Sky.Live: Jun 23 2008, 12:15 PM

DVI to HDMI converter perhaps? I too considered the W2407h(24" version) but alast no DVI as well so i'm considering the Samsung 245B now which is cheaper than the HP and comes with DVI port.

10s for ur information bro....

RM1030 is the most cheap??

cause i see most of the shop sell RM1099!!

so how about the HP LCD warranty?? from shop or HP??

Any Samsung 226BW user here? I need help on how to turn off the On Screen Display. It shows "Not Optimum Mode" since I'm using 1920x1080 when I'm playing my PS3.

Freedom : if you buy legals HP lcd units, the warranty cover by HP, sevice center HP Towers at wisma semantan.

I'm looking for a 24" LCD monitor as my Viewsonic 19" suddenly craps out yesterday night after 5 years of long service.

Any recommendation? I was looking at dell, there's one model tempted me but is costly. RM2.6K for a LCD 24" Dell UltraSharp™ 2408WFP

And i have a X800 PRO. Should be able to support it right?

This post has been edited by Intrigue: Jun 23 2008, 04:42 PM

use 720p mode.. does the msg go away after like 10 seconds or it just stay like that?

RM1099 for w2207h!!
Now if only JB has a lowyat. Anyone knows where to that HP in JB? Or if there is a HP shop?

If you have enuff budget the Dell 2408wfp is highly recommended as it used S-PVA panel if i'm not wrong. Just don't buy those non-ultrasharp Dell. You can try to check Eizo HD2441W or NEC LCD2470WNX which used high quality panel as well.

If you're looking for a cheaper solution go for those model that used TN panel.

I'm also like you now hunting for a lcd panel but was waiting to see how Dell 2709wfp perform on ps3 if not i will end up with Dell 2408wfp as well. Seem like not much choice to choose when limited by budget. : D Earlier today I was looking at Samsung 2493HM, it is currently in my consideration list and it is cheaper than Dell 2408wfp.\\

you gfx can support but if you want to play some high end games then need to upgrade.

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Added on June 23, 2008, 5:22 pmsome 24" lcd info review, but seriously you need to see it yourself.

NEC MultiSync LCD2470WNX http://www.trustedreviews.com/displays/rev...c-LCD2470WNX/p1

Eizo FlexScan HD2441W http://www.trustedreviews.com/displays/rev...-LCD-Monitor/p1

BenQ FP241W http://www.trustedreviews.com/displays/rev...reen-Monitor/p1

Dell UltraSharp 2408WFP http://www.trustedreviews.com/displays/rev...-LCD-Monitor/p1

Samsung SyncMaster 245T http://www.trustedreviews.com/displays/rev...cMaster-245T/p1



This post has been edited by juine: Jun 23 2008, 05:22 PM

i would prefer higher end model and what attracts me the most is the connectivity.. WIth HDMI, Component input, it can be useful in the future for PS3 without the use of a converter. Nah.. i would stay clear from cheaper stuff (cheap thing no good, good thing no cheap). Still a lil bit lack of review for this LCD and i came across a forum that mentioned it LAGS when playing COD4 at full resolution (offline / 1920x1200) and there's another one mentioned that the input lags especially playing online fps games (this bother me the most as mostly i watch action movies and playing fps games and PS3 in the upcoming months)

I was thinkng if the price surge above 3K.. why not get a 32" LCD TV FULL HD right? I still had yet to check out those LCD connectivity but is it wise to get it?

Get the Dell 2408WFP lor.. it get a pretty decent feedbacks from people who use it for PS3. It has displayport somemore, another advantage. LCD TV is not really suitable for PC due to the big screen and lower resolution and lcd tv you need to sit pretty far to get everything look comfortable.

check this - http://monitortest.blogspot.com/

off topic : LCD TV is mainly to watch EURO 2008.. GERMANY! I hope Germany win ; ;

This post has been edited by juine: Jun 23 2008, 05:46 PM

Yes, but 720p will make the game look weird (for example Gran Turismo 5 Prologue) so I want to use 1080p.
The message goes away after 60seconds, so I hope there's a way to turn it off.

Btw, thanks for helping.

anyone know where i can buy 2007WFP??yesterday went to LYP,can find it if VX2025 pun habis,then sure i have to choose TN-panel LCD

Hi , lex and other experts.
I'd like to know how to know there is a dead ,stuck pixel or bright spot or other kind of defected pixel on the LCD screen ? how to test ?
Before buying one I sure will test one so what way to test for it ?

Or you could get a 40" Samsung 400DX DiD panel lcd display btw doesnt come wit tv tuner ar haha.

You can use the following recommended (free) software...

Eizo Monitor Test (direct download)

Dead Pixel Tester

Dead Pixel Buddy

Some shops will test on the spot for you, usually after you have made the purchase..

This post has been edited by lex: Jun 23 2008, 08:09 PM

Thank you , but I mean test on the spot.How look or what way or technique to test ?

The only way to know is to switch it on and hook it to a PC and display a blank fullscreen of primary colors (red, green, blue), white and black... Some shops uses dead pixel testing software.

There's no point recommending monitor like NEC and Eizo to him because it is not available locally. Unless he is willing to import it in, I imported a 24" NEC 2490 yrs ago and the total cost is nearly 4.5k. Think about it.

I'm using the same model. Press the 'Menu' button on your LCD to make that annoying message go away. Set back your display to 1080p, this model can support it. But for Blu-Ray playback, this model can only do 720p. I'm on the 2nd final boss of MSG 4

I think I should clarify things regarding this issue. 226BW accepts 1080p input resolution, but it will downscale it back to the LCD's native resolution, so it is not actually running at 1920x1080. A lot of the latest 32" HD ready LCD TV accepts 1080p resolution, but when displaying it downgrades back to it's native resolution which is 1366x768. Accepts and displaying 1080p is totally different. Only a FULL HD panel can display 1080p, which in LCD monitor's case, any LCD that has a resolution of 1920x1200 and above.

NEC monitor sure is good but then hard to find distributor here.... sadly... anyway dont talk about the price... NEC LCD are made in Japan or other places?

yeah, i like NEC product also. hehe

yea... certain LCD just downgrades the whole resolution that renders it pretty useless

Hi, I'm a newbie here. Recently I decided to buy a 22" HP monitors for playstation 3 gaming. Anyone can tell me more about current 22" hp monitors selling in LOWYAT PLAZA? with HDCP function of course, and please tell me the best price.

Hi fellas this is my first post in this sub-forum, I'm in Penang and in the market for a new LCD. I want to get a Samsung 22" and found that the current models available in Malaysia are 2232BW, 2253BW and 226BW. Which one is the latest and that you guys recommend I should buy? Also, I find that the shops here only carry 2232BW which I suspect is not the latest model, anyone can recommend shops in Penang which carry the latest?

Thanks for the clarification. I felt odd because 226BW can accept 1080p. I was prepared for 720p since i bought my PS3.

2253BW is the latest one. You can try Prangin Mall for this model.

Kinda off topic here, its there even a 32" LCDtv FULLHD available locally here?.. so far i only noticed 37" ones has FullHD... which cost like abt rm4k.

Ditto!, thats why it stated "support" 1080p instead of saying displays or resolution up to...

Not to mention if referring to LCDtv HDTV (supports 1080p) prices its abt rm1k difference compared to Full-HDTV.. lol...

Its like USB1.0-ports supports USB2.0 flashdrive, but of course the flashdrive can't run at hi/full-speeds (vice-versa).

@kianwee, imo better post the "support 1080p" facts up in the first post oso...

Cheers

This post has been edited by TomatomanzSeedlezz: Jun 24 2008, 05:07 PM

wats the best option for me if i were to choose a decent 22" lcd

dell ultrasharp 22"
Samsung 2253?

any other suggestions for best LCD in the market?

hi there...

am looking into buying a 19 inch lcd monitor...been looking at these 2...would like your advises...

Samsung SyncMaster 931BW
ViewSonic VX1940w

which would u choose? or do u have some other recommendation within the same price range...which is around RM700...

thanks!

yea.. there's a 32" from Sony one but not in best series if i'm not wrong. Unless SEN-Q website wrongly posted. keke


i would go for viewsonic. Though many will opt for samsung. Because i'm a Viewsonic user

This post has been edited by Intrigue: Jun 24 2008, 06:16 PM

oh... but if the shop don't have software to test so the only way to test is use a black wallpaper fullscreen and white wallpaper fullscreen right ?
Sorry what do you mean red, green, blue ? need to test red, green, blue fullscreen wallpaper too ?

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Added on June 24, 2008, 6:34 pmforgot , can someone tell me what brand got 19 inch fullscreen LCD selling ? and the price too ?
Because I am using very old graphic card cannot display widescreen one , and 19 inch widescreen not tall enough as 17 inch. Must need 22 inch to have same height as 19inch fullscreen and very expensive also.

This post has been edited by Maxieos: Jun 24 2008, 06:34 PM

@Intrigue
what a weird reason... then i will opt for samsung because im samsung user... zzz....

BenQ Intros the World's First 21.5-inch 16:9 Desktop LCD with Full 1080p Support

With 1080p rapidly becoming the new standard in display content BenQ released E2200HDA, the world’s first 21.5” Full HD 16:9 LCD monitor featuring 100% mapping to 1080p content. With 100% dot-for-dot matching to Full HD materials, BenQ’s new 16:9 large screen delivers immaculate rendering of 1080p content without losing any detail. The screen provides native resolution of 1920x1080, 10,000:1 dynamic contrast ratio, 300 cd/m2 brightness and a fast 5ms response time. Benq also pack E2200HDA with integrated speakers and its Senseye technology. Five new 21.5” and 24” Full HD 16:9 models will further pioneer 1080p displays later on, spreading across BenQ’s E Series and M Series LCD displays. BenQ 16:9 1080p Full HD LCD displays will be available in China and select countries in Europe, Asia Pacific and Latin America in Q3.

http://www.techpowerup.com/63774/BenQ_Intr...0p_Support.html

really world first???

This post has been edited by juine: Jun 24 2008, 11:10 PM

1K difference? At least 3K difference I would say. =D

Misleading info. Sony S400 series below 40" all HD Ready. Not FULL HD. Looks like Sen-Q trying to con consumer.

Yes, the keyword here is: support

32" full hd not so popular in msia, but for native 1080p u can try 32a550
this lcd tv allows 1920x1080 resolution via hdmi, pc and component

imo, dun get 32" full hd lcd tv unless u're hooking ur pc on it...else its a waste...

what is the software i can use to calibrate my monitor?

http://www.wikihow.com/Calibrate-Your-Monitor

juz compare spec u know already which is better .

This post has been edited by zeustronic: Jun 25 2008, 10:09 AM

haha.. because i'm just trying to be different. As i got another SAMSUNG at home. Both also can be at par at least to me

yalo.. thats why i also feeling suspicious about it. Didn't go SONY to check it out though

Ive got a HP W2407h too and I have a DVI to HDMI converter that comes with my 8800GT but after Ive pluged it in the monitor display that there is no signal input I wonder whats the reason for it.

And then another annoying thing is that when I play games at diff resolution other than 1680 X 1050 it says to set it to 1680 X 1050 if not the box will keep bumping around blocking my view on the game so annoying anyone knows how I can disable that?

This post has been edited by fujkenasai: Jun 25 2008, 03:16 PM

You plug in a PS3?

I plug into my pc.

Hmmmz.. i wonder izzit similar w2408h, coz i read review before, that i comes with HDMI to DVI cable.

Not to mention, why u gotten older wan ah?.. if not mistaken w2408h has out for few months oredi... and pretty high recommendation http://www.trustedreviews.com/displays/rev...24in-Monitor/p1

And abt resolution.. weird that u stated 1680x1050... considering yer native res its 1920x1200, unless u typo "W2207h"?.. or u typo the native res?..

Cheers

This post has been edited by TomatomanzSeedlezz: Jun 25 2008, 03:51 PM

Oops its acctually W2207H not w2408h

No mine does not come with a HDMI to DVI cable it only come with a VGA cable and a HDMI cable. How ever I have a DVI to HDMI converter plug.

So they are saying that their 22" can support 1080p now is there any diff in displaying so much detail on a 22". How much will this cost in malaysia? Or rather how much are they selling where ever they are selling it?

This post has been edited by fujkenasai: Jun 25 2008, 04:23 PM

I think the price for that..you can buy a plasma tv. No point

The price of what?

I think he meant the price of ""BenQ Intros the World's First 21.5-inch 16:9 Desktop LCD with Full 1080p Support""

Ahh wow price of a LCD TV yeah really no point.

This post has been edited by fujkenasai: Jun 26 2008, 12:07 AM

i want buy 22" LCD. samsung 2253BW good or not ? RM9XX
or any other suggestion ?

i am planing to buy a 19" samsung LCD widescreen monitor...
and i want a monitor that can input with Nintendo Wii..
so which model do you all recommended and what is the price?

Just bought 19" Samsung 943NWX, no regret in buying, just abit hard to c the menu button to configure it, but that is not a fatal problem. Should have take 22" instead but bcoz of the tight budget i have no choice T_T!!

You'll need a LCD with component input, so look for one that has it.

This came in my office last week....

HP 30" LCD heavy also u know...also very2 expensive...

den do u have any model that recommend by u?

DELL 2408WFP

hmm.. now is revision A00. I think if not in the hurry to buy, can wait for revision A01 which will fix certain issues found as mentioned by other user in US.s

Anyone here using Samsung 245T? Dell in sg doesnt accept cash payment. So i might switch to this monitor. So my question is how does it fair with PS3? Can it do 1:1 maping of 1080p? I heard some horible story bout HM n B series. How does it compare wit Dell 2408WFP? Thx

may i know how much is a samsung 24 inch i may get 1..

i bought samsung 226BW...

I need suggestion for 19" wide screen LCD. My requirement
- good performance
- lowest rated power consumption
- good price, cheaper better
- good reliability
- good warranty/after sales support

I'll be doing graphics editing and design. No other major task besides some office work and surfing. That's all.

Suggest me a model and its estimated street price.

Some brands in my consideration are BenQ, Acer, Dell, Samsung, but no specific models in mind.

update: any opinion on Dell E207WFP?

This post has been edited by soulfly: Jun 28 2008, 01:05 PM

hey guy. i am loking for same LCd..
i looking at E207WFP also.


is it good ? where to buy cheap DELL LCd ?

want cheap, perform device and big deal then go grab CHIMEI RM750 for 22" is any time same price to those 19" branded LCD, but dont doubt on CHIMEI (taiwanese brand), my doesn't have any stuck or death pixel

Response time?

Most LCDs nowadays are low power and pretty equal power consumption, even among different sizes.

This one have to hunt and ask around...

Graphics design? Is correct color important?

Hi, anyone here use HP 22" widescreen HDCP LCD monitor? or anyone know more about it? please share.