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Maxieos
post Jun 23 2008, 06:50 PM

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Hi , lex and other experts.
I'd like to know how to know there is a dead ,stuck pixel or bright spot or other kind of defected pixel on the LCD screen ? how to test ?
Before buying one I sure will test one so what way to test for it ?
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post Jun 23 2008, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(lex @ Jun 23 2008, 07:52 PM)
You can use the following recommended (free) software...

Eizo Monitor Test (direct downloadthumbup.gif

Dead Pixel Tester

Dead Pixel Buddy

Some shops will test on the spot for you, usually after you have made the purchase..  blush.gif
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Thank you , but I mean test on the spot.How look or what way or technique to test ?
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post Jun 24 2008, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(lex @ Jun 23 2008, 10:16 PM)
The only way to know is to switch it on and hook it to a PC and display a blank fullscreen of primary colors (red, green, blue), white and black... Some shops uses dead pixel testing software.  wink.gif
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oh... but if the shop don't have software to test so the only way to test is use a black wallpaper fullscreen and white wallpaper fullscreen right ?
Sorry what do you mean red, green, blue ? need to test red, green, blue fullscreen wallpaper too ?


Added on June 24, 2008, 6:34 pmforgot , can someone tell me what brand got 19 inch fullscreen LCD selling ? and the price too ? unsure.gif
Because I am using very old graphic card cannot display widescreen one , and 19 inch widescreen not tall enough as 17 inch. Must need 22 inch to have same height as 19inch fullscreen and very expensive also.

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post Aug 23 2008, 06:06 PM

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I want to know how much does the HP w2207h selling ?

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post Aug 23 2008, 10:37 PM

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how many year warranty ?


Added on August 23, 2008, 10:48 pm
QUOTE(SeaMonster @ Aug 23 2008, 08:17 PM)
RM1050+/-
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post Aug 27 2008, 07:56 PM

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I went to HP shop to ask about w2207h price.I see very expensive RM 1288
I don't know where else I can find any cheaper than it.I heard got new model same as w2207h , what model is it any cheaper ?
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post Aug 28 2008, 04:42 AM

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HP W2228H ....

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where can I find ?
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post Aug 28 2008, 03:34 PM

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actually how big difference between TN < PVA < IPS ???

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post Aug 29 2008, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Aug 28 2008, 04:19 PM)
Just to reclarify. 24'' and higher usually have 1900x1200 native resolution which is the resolution of 1080p High Definition videos.

There are some 22'' that have 1900x1200 however they are few and rare. Most of the 22''  are 1680x1050 native resolution.

30'' are usually 2000x resolution which is very taxing for graphics card, so i wouldn't recommend anything higher then 26'' because they use higher resolutions that required dual graphics cards setups doh.gif
TN ( Cheap to make and good for gaming because it is the least laggy, and has lowest input lag out of the 3 different lcd panel types. However the color is crap as tn panels are 6bit using FRC. )

S-PVA = better quality then TN, however input lag and latency is higher. At the moment some S-PVA is at an acceptable input lag and latecny which makes it good enough for gamings. However some bad S-PVA are like the Dell 2408 which is too laggy to be used for gaming. This is more expensive then TN.

S-IPS = This is better than S-PVA as its better in colors and also has better input lag and latency. It's almost as fast as TN.

H-IPS = a newer version then S-IPS and surparses it.
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Oh.. but on viewing I really didn't see before those panel difference.Any place I can have a chance to compare on those 3 panel ? I mean LCD display so I know what difference between 3 of it.
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post Aug 29 2008, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Aug 29 2008, 05:07 PM)
I mean live view .Like go lowyat view.Lowyat don't show all 3 kind of panel even on dell 4th floor

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Hi , I want to know whether RM770 for HP w1907 is worth it or not ?
I went to every HP store but every store selling HP W2207H at the price RM1288 which is very expensive for me.
I don't know where to look.I search almost entire town.Lowyat here at garage sale don't have people selling any brand new while others like LG , Dell and Philips and Viewsonic got a lot.

So what should I do ? Contirue search for 22 inch HP W2207H or worth to buy HP w1907 for RM770 ?
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post Aug 30 2008, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Aug 30 2008, 01:59 AM)
Hi , I want to know whether RM770 for HP w1907 is worth it or not ?
I went to every HP store but every store selling HP W2207H at the price RM1288 which is very expensive for me.
I don't know where to look.I search almost entire town.Lowyat here at garage sale don't have people selling any brand new while others like LG , Dell and Philips and Viewsonic got a lot.

So what should I do ? Contirue search for 22 inch HP W2207H or worth to buy HP w1907 for RM770 ?
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post Sep 2 2008, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(leongtat @ Aug 31 2008, 01:43 AM)
Guyz help him a bit ler... he has been asking for so long but no ppl reply...
i wud suggest you go for 22 inch....the samsung one not bad...around 900++
19 inch now adays are nothing....i got 1 2 years ago....but now upgrade to 24 inch..
Anyway 22inch is near to Full HD ady...good if you have a console like xbox360 or ps3  or watching any HD movie....
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Thank you very much notworthy.gif but most of the HP center selling at RM1288 very expensive for w2207h cry.gif and only 1 year warranty.
But ,I prefer HP because it look like TV reflection other LCD don't have.I cannot find any LCD have it.
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QUOTE(yvliew @ Sep 2 2008, 08:54 PM)
isnt those reflecting screen annoying? it reflects lights... My samsung 40" lcdtv doesn't reflect.. I think most LCDTV doesn't, only plasma..
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But as I see reflection viewing angle is better.I can view 170 with HP but not with other LCD and if view from down + up , other LCD became very dark view from down to up but very birght until almost white from the top.
But HP one is far more better got dark and white but very little.

That's why I choose reflection.Why LCD is like this ? look on the top part very white , but down part very dark ?? rclxub.gif
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post Sep 12 2008, 08:10 PM

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If 2228h price is RM 999 worth to buy ??
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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Aug 29 2008, 02:48 PM)
Oh.. but on viewing I really didn't see before those panel difference.Any place I can have a chance to compare on those 3 panel ? I mean LCD display so I know what difference between 3 of it.
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Why you all say s-pva better h-pva better or pva ? than TN ?
So what big difference on it ? I asked before no one reply.You all just give me a Link and some picture to compare .
I ask before where I can see the 2 panel TN and PVA at real life or lowyat no one answer.Not helping. sad.gif
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QUOTE(ben_panced @ Sep 12 2008, 10:38 PM)
it's like this
the order of the LCD panel according to the technology is

ips>pva/mva>tn

ips panel is the most hi end panel, it's viewing angle is the best compared to other panels, colour reproduction is also the best while it's input lag is lower than pva

pva is the mid range panel made by samsung, comparable to mva, second best viewing angle, colour reproduction, but pva panels has a high input lag compared to other panel

mva is the mid range panel, second best viewing angle, colour reproduction, but pva panels has a lower input lag compared to pva panel

tn is the cheapest panel, that's why u see them in 99% of LCD monitors being sold rite now, limited viewing angle, can only display 6-bit colours per channel, but the advantage of this panel is it's fast response time and input lag

this is only a summary, u can use google to read more on this
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QUOTE(Onion-KiD @ Sep 12 2008, 10:39 PM)
* S-IPS panels are generally considered the best all around panel type, but they are more expensive and very few are made. High end, expensive.

    * S-PVA/MVA panels offer better color reproduction and viewing angles than TN panels, have slightly worse response times than TN or S-IPS, offer the best contrast
      ratios, may suffer from color shifting or input lag and have higher availability than S-IPS panels. Mid range, fair price.

    * TN panels are very cheap and have the fastest response times, but suffer from inferior color reproduction, contrast ratios and viewing angles. Low end, inexpensive.
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Thank you very much for the info but again I still cannot get what I want cry.gif

Why forum member here like to give wording than actually comparison eye to eye or real life.Why just info ?
I was asking where I can see real life or eye to eye difference.You all tell me example "Samsung LCD TV 30 inch very nice but Sony LCD TV 30 inch color produce more nice or chicken rice at Jalan A nice but chicken rice at Jalan B more nice"
I never try I never know ,I never see I never know.I just want someone to tell me where I can see those difference between all all 3 panel.


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QUOTE(SySTeM_eRRoR @ Sep 12 2008, 11:12 PM)
Go to Mid Valley Megamall's IT World, look for 30" Apple iCinema at Machines and memorize whatever you see. Then go to Dell and look at 27" Dell 2707WFP and just randomly find another LCD which is under the price range of RM1000 and memorize what you see again. The 30" Apple iCinema is IPS, Dell 2707WFP is PVA and any random LCD screens below RM1000 is TN panel. Compare them in your head.
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Thank you but where to find Dell 2707WFP ? at Mid Valley Megamall ?
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post Sep 13 2008, 10:17 PM

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Thank you for the comparison.Actually I am not very sure how big difference is 6 bit colour and 8 bit colour.I am not sure how poor the viewing angle on TN panel vs pva , mva.The problem is my area doesn't have all those LCD for preview.
I want to ask what is the different between H-IPS vs those CRT monitor ? CRT monitor using 6 bit ?
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post Sep 15 2008, 05:37 PM

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How much is HP 2475w ? What's the warranty for HP 2475w ? sicne so many people want to buy ? cheap is it ?


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